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| 00:04.21 | annadane | jessie is kind of outdated, unless you have a reason for being on it i'd upgrade |
| 00:04.28 | annadane | !jessie lts |
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| 00:10.49 | tomreyn | oxek: it probably depends on what you're looking for. this should be the latest debian 10 amd64 mini.iso |
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| 01:38.28 | cinesc | Looks like Anonymous72 doesn´t show up here today. |
| 01:39.00 | dvs | if that's his real name... |
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| 01:41.32 | cinesc | It was about troubleshooting whether things are fine now or if there is something I should know about. |
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| 04:12.55 | zapatista | I don't know if this is against the rules. I am trying to import and compile a c project and I don't seem to find includes for QT. Where can I find them? |
| 04:13.49 | zapatista | I am using eclipse for development platform. |
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| 04:20.08 | blackpenguin | zapatista: include files for libraries can be installed by installation of the *-dev package of the library. in your case something like libqt4-dev |
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| 04:21.01 | blackpenguin | Qt is C++ though |
| 04:22.11 | zapatista | It looks installed but I cannot seem to figure out where. qt-base-dev-tools |
| 04:22.28 | zapatista | But I will also look into the lib thing. |
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| 05:48.03 | aidanpr | Hi |
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| 06:41.36 | jabberwocky_fodd | Hello. I like Debian. Screw MS. Thats all. |
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| 06:41.48 | jabberwocky_fodd | (I recently switched) |
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| 06:45.00 | in1t3r | How can I check the build flags of xorg on debian? |
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| 06:57.31 | RoyK | in1t3r: probably in the debian/ folder in the xorg-dev package, whatever that's named |
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| 06:57.49 | RoyK | that is - the source package |
| 06:57.50 | RoyK | not dev |
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| 07:39.24 | wobelinger | einen wunder schÃschonen guten morgen |
| 07:39.35 | jelly | Latr_work: using a repo from a newer branch to get binaries from is a really bad idea, avoid at all costs. You could try making your own build ("backport") for buster, but Mesa might not be the only thing you'll need backporting, you might need newer libdrm and kernel, and maybe even newer Xorg |
| 07:40.09 | jelly | Latr_work: see: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 07:40.27 | jelly | ,v libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 07:40.28 | judd | Package: libgl1-mesa-dri on amd64 -- jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; stretch: 13.0.6-1+b2; stretch-backports: 18.2.8-2~bpo9+1; buster: 18.3.6-2; bullseye: 19.2.1-1; sid: 19.2.1-1 |
| 07:41.27 | jelly | Latr_work: you could ask the backports mailing list if someone is willing to make a build and put it in buster-backports repo. |
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| 08:06.33 | hans_ | why isn't UTC/GMT an option here? https://i.imgur.com/IpjVRLN.png - #1 is UTC-2.5, #2 is UTC-4 , #3 is UTC-5, #4 is UTC-6, #5 is UTC-6, #6 is UTC-5, #7 is UTC-7, and #8 is UTC-8 |
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| 08:11.33 | Ede|Popede | just installed enigma (enigma enigma-data enigma-doc libxerces-c3.1 libzipios++0v5 ttf-dejavu-extra = 36.3 MB in 9s). then unpacking stage started, i switched to the desktop with the irc client, hd activity started. for a pretty long time. couldn't switch back. |
| 08:11.33 | Ede|Popede | went to tty2 with htop running to see if there was somethng special about memory or cpu usage. nope. but i could see the process subtree with the switching configuration commands running. and was already greeted by a log message saying that nm-applet just has segfaulted in libgdk-something. |
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| 08:12.44 | Ede|Popede | i have java pinned so that it doesn't even try to update it (was kicked out of irc every time during the unpack stage), but i am surprised that it happend now even with those few packages enigma brought in. |
| 08:13.14 | Ede|Popede | and i'd still blame the cpu usage of xz over longer periods of time. |
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| 08:15.59 | no_gravity | Strange, I have this in my DOCKERFILE but the line does not end up in /etc/hosts: RUN echo "127.0.0.1 something" >> /etc/hosts |
| 08:16.03 | no_gravity | Who overwrites it? |
| 08:18.29 | jelly | hans_: if you've chosen a particular country this step only shows zones available in that country |
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| 08:19.12 | hans_ | i have chosen a country, but is it possible to *not* choose a country? |
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| 08:22.28 | jelly | hans_: I don't remember, perhaps in expert install |
| 08:23.13 | jelly | you can reconfigure the timezone after installation tho; the bios clock will be in UTC by default |
| 08:23.37 | jelly | so changing the timezone is just a cosmetic change |
| 08:23.56 | jelly | clock does not actually go forward or backward |
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| 08:39.00 | phoblet | is there a channel about embedded linux on the gemini pda? |
| 08:42.17 | hans_ | shouldn't popularity-contest be opt-out rather than opt-in? people who *do* care will ofc choose what they want, and people who don't care (which is most people i presume) will just chose the default option |
| 08:43.08 | hans_ | (in the debian10 installer, it's opt-in, disabled by default) |
| 08:43.49 | ratrace | privacy related matters should be opt-in |
| 08:44.26 | hans_ | kk, that makes sense |
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| 09:09.55 | hans_ | i was on this "device for boot loader" screen, https://i.imgur.com/VzDR8Jd.png , and i didn't remember, so i pressed "Go Back" and go to the partition manager and see that the disk i want the bootloader on is /dev/sdc , then i went back to "enter device for boot manager", now all the 3 options are gone: https://i.imgur.com/wfUjL3n.png and if i manually enter /dev/sdc, it says "unable to install GRUB in /dev/sdc - executing grub-install /dev/sdc failed. this |
| 09:09.56 | hans_ | <hans_> is a fatal error" - https://i.imgur.com/hX2kljM.png |
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| 09:11.20 | hans_ | so.. why is the GRUB bootloader apparently confused because i pressed "go back" and went back to partition editor and -didn't do any changes- and went back to install grub? |
| 09:11.50 | hans_ | s/bootloader/installer/ |
| 09:12.17 | hans_ | and.. think i can fix it without restarting the install process, or should i just re-do the whole thing? |
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| 09:13.02 | hans_ | the step im stuck on is "Install the GRUB boot loader on a hard disk" |
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| 09:36.14 | in1t3r | who here have optimus laptop and use nouveau for external monitor setup? how to set it up |
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| 09:47.54 | Habbie | in1t3r, i do that, but i disabled the intel gpu |
| 09:48.02 | Habbie | in1t3r, then everything is easy |
| 09:48.28 | in1t3r | Habbie, what are the performance gains if ou have them? |
| 09:48.57 | in1t3r | You mean via switcheroo I cant use switcheroo as HP omen AMI bios do not support that |
| 09:50.21 | Habbie | in1t3r, i don't know |
| 09:52.14 | Lope | anyone here experienced with dropbear-initramfs ? |
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| 11:23.07 | GNUtoo | hi, |
| 11:23.37 | GNUtoo | u-boot has a standard for booting distributions, and only 1 thing is missing to make use of it in Debian (and derivatives): |
| 11:24.09 | GNUtoo | The devicetree directory is kernel specific |
| 11:24.34 | GNUtoo | for instance I've to add the following to extlinux.conf: "fdtdir /usr/lib/linux-image-5.2.0-3-arm64/" |
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| 11:25.35 | GNUtoo | The rest is good: the kernel has a link in /vmlinuz and the initrd has it in /initrd.img |
| 11:26.06 | GNUtoo | so you can very easily write an extlinux.conf config file that point to boot so that u-boot can find them |
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| 11:34.59 | abrotman | Is there a question? |
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| 11:40.06 | Ether_Man | GNUtoo, that would be a benefit when their btrfs support includes booting from multi device arrays. But right now, it's not like there's really any benefit over say grub. |
| 11:41.05 | GNUtoo | Ether_Man: for ARM there is a huge benefit |
| 11:41.32 | GNUtoo | abrotman: should I bugreport about that or is there already a bugreport on it, or is there a way to find out that myself? |
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| 12:08.17 | Lope | anyone here experienced with dropbear-initramfs ? |
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| 12:27.49 | Lope | ratrace, are you around bud? |
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| 12:34.53 | nsa_ | i have over an hundred entries like this ftom netstat "tcp6 0 0 173.230.157.xxx:443 217.68.213.33:51109 SYN_RECV", so it looks like a syn flood attack, but why does it say 'tcp6' protocol with those ipv4 addresses ? |
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| 12:36.43 | ratrace | Lope: partially :) |
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| 12:37.25 | ratrace | nsa_: over a hundred entries is not even a smidge of a synflood |
| 12:37.45 | ratrace | synfloods are in tens of thousands per second |
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| 12:37.59 | ratrace | hundreds and millions for bigger ones |
| 12:38.09 | ratrace | (hundreds of thousands, and millions) |
| 12:38.22 | nsa_ | ratrace: yes, but... something is wrong.. |
| 12:39.21 | ratrace | nsa_: oh right, tcp6 for ipv4 |
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| 12:40.29 | ratrace | nsa_: first time I see that. are you using some kind of 6in4 / gre tunneling? |
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| 12:44.40 | nsa_ | ratrace: all i have running is squid and openvpn, openvpn uses a tun0 interface, i'm shutting down squid and openvpn for now |
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| 12:52.35 | watom | hello. i get this while using iptables "Warning: iptables-legacy tables present" by default. is that an issue? |
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| 13:04.00 | cinesc | hi |
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| 13:31.48 | premoboss | hi. debian 10 amd64. firefox "freezes" at start and freeze also the desktop (lxde). i must kill from CLI with 'killall firefox-esr'. Back in GUI, mouse move but not accept click. back in CLI, apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade. firefox-esr goes to 68.2. reboot. firefox persiste on freeze and block himseld and lxde. NOte that cromium is not affected. IDeas? |
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| 15:44.49 | inna | mkay. |
| 15:45.08 | inna | installing the fucking amdgpu drivers from amd resulted in a black screen on boot |
| 15:45.20 | inna | i found the steps to make it work but for that i need to get into a shell |
| 15:45.32 | inna | appending init=/bin/bash at grub does not work |
| 15:45.40 | inna | any clue? |
| 15:45.59 | inna | is there an option to force NOT loading the amdgpu driver at boot? |
| 15:48.44 | inna | also rescue-mode doesn't work |
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| 16:14.15 | premoboss | inna buut fro cd/usb stick |
| 16:14.23 | premoboss | boot from |
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| 16:19.35 | cinesc | premoboss Try reinstall the browser and it might solve the issue |
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| 16:20.16 | premoboss | cinesc, purge and reinstall. ok i will try |
| 16:20.31 | cinesc | how did you install it from the beginning? |
| 16:20.50 | cinesc | terminal or package repository? |
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| 16:39.16 | premoboss | cinesc, cli, apt-get install |
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| 16:45.36 | jhutchins | inna: You can disable the kms driver, which will prevent the amd driver from loading. Sorry but I don't remember the syntax. |
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| 16:51.39 | jhutchins | Ah, nomodeset |
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| 16:54.03 | jhutchins | https://www.dell.com/support/article/it/it/itbsdt1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernal-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en Ubuntu, but works with Debian too. |
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| 17:50.36 | mtcdood | can anyone tell me why sometimes tmux windows get somehow screwed up and nano and some other programs immediately exit when beginning to listen for keyboard input? working nano strace https://pastebin.com/raw/hE0CdtZr non-working nano strace https://pastebin.com/raw/3FaPHeB8 |
| 17:50.44 | mtcdood | that is where the two straces first differ |
| 17:51.09 | mtcdood | creating a new tmux window and using that works, so does detaching from tmux and using my native console |
| 17:51.20 | mtcdood | but that tmux window is permanently broken and it continues to happen |
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| 18:13.58 | Guest15 | hi there! |
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| 18:15.01 | Guest15 | im having a problem which is exactly the one in https://github.com/nodejs/help/issues/1877#issuecomment-537762282 . the proposed "solution" (which is just a workaround) is to install npm using their own install script, but i'd like to use debian's packages as i trust them more. |
| 18:15.27 | Guest15 | can someone shed some light on this? i fail to see why npm would complain about this |
| 18:17.01 | Ankman | that a javascript package manager? |
| 18:17.30 | Guest15 | yeah, npm. its practically the most common and well known package manager for node.js stuff |
| 18:17.40 | Ankman | have it installed here via apt-get i guess.might just have been a dependency as i cannot remember i wanted to install it |
| 18:17.48 | GNU\colossus | the node "ecosystem" moves too fast for Debian |
| 18:17.50 | Guest15 | its not for managing software packages for e.g. debian, it's for node.js |
| 18:17.51 | Ankman | ah node, yes |
| 18:18.16 | Guest15 | here's some output: |
| 18:18.23 | Guest15 | Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/0a4ac130b8867af889a5d6d32594fa53/pasted.txt |
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| 18:18.55 | Guest15 | so it looks like npm doesnt "know" about node 10 being released (which is odd considering nodejs is at 10.15). perhaps the npm one is way behind the official npm. |
| 18:18.59 | Guest15 | checks |
| 18:20.18 | GNU\colossus | at work, we use node and npm from the upstream binary releases (they have distro-agnostic builds that go into /opt/<something> just fine) to be able to infect ourselves with JS shovelware |
| 18:21.52 | Guest15 | ok, npm is at 6.12 but hte debian one is at 5.8. so its probably a case of the debian package not being new enough to know about nodejs 10.15 |
| 18:22.06 | Guest15 | GNU\colossus haha, roger that :) |
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| 18:23.33 | Guest15 | maybe i can grab a newer npm from testing |
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| 18:24.24 | nkuttler | can't you install npm with npm? |
| 18:24.58 | Guest15 | nkuttler: probably but i would like to use debian packages instead |
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| 18:25.18 | Guest15 | using the official node+npm installers will most likely work fine, yae |
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| 18:28.15 | Guest15 | hm well buster-backports has npm 5.8.0 too |
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| 18:28.52 | nkuttler | ,v npm |
| 18:28.53 | judd | Package: npm on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4.21+ds-2; stretch-backports: 5.8.0+ds6-2~bpo9+1; bullseye: 5.8.0+ds6-4; buster: 5.8.0+ds6-4; sid: 5.8.0+ds6-4 |
| 18:30.08 | hans_ | what is /etc/group- ? |
| 18:30.10 | Guest15 | looks like i will have to install at least npm from the official repos instead then |
| 18:30.32 | hans_ | group with a hypen |
| 18:31.00 | hans_ | other files have copies with a hypen as well, gshadow- and passwd- and shadow- |
| 18:31.39 | hans_ | .. appears to be backups/old versions of some kind |
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| 18:32.18 | Guest15 | hans_: AFAIK they are just backups of the files |
| 18:32.29 | schumaml | is there a command or env variable to determine the triplet in library paths - i.e. lib/i386-linux-gnu/ - that debian is using? |
| 18:32.39 | Guest15 | hans_: you can verify this by making a change to some file and see if the - one has the old contents. |
| 18:33.18 | hans_ | Guest15, doesn't if i edit them manually (with nano) but if deluser edits it, then they contain the old version yeah |
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| 18:38.19 | cinesc | Anyone familiar with pentesting and things like that related to hacking? Need help with. |
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| 18:40.12 | wasamasa | yeah, I do it for good money |
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| 18:41.20 | GNU\colossus | I began testing penetration in my late teens, and found it satisfactory ever since. |
| 18:41.30 | wasamasa | I do that on the side |
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| 19:03.00 | wasamasa | somehow I don't expect anything useful to come from that guy |
| 19:03.18 | Ankman | GNU\colossus: *LOL* |
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| 19:13.36 | jelly | schumaml, there can be more than one used on a single installation, but only one dpkg architecture is considered native and there's a 1:1 mapping. https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Tuples says, among other things, > gcc -print-multiarch |
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| 19:15.01 | jelly | schumaml, and "dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH" right before that |
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| 19:21.38 | schumaml | dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH |
| 19:21.58 | schumaml | is that better or worse than using the gcc parameter |
| 19:22.02 | schumaml | ? |
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| 19:52.02 | filpAM | which is the best cross platform audio output library |
| 19:52.50 | GNU\colossus | "best" is usually highly subjective. I think portaudio is considered "OK" in terms of actual cross-platformedness. |
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| 20:47.52 | stefanos82 | Good evening everyone, I need your expertise around screen resolution, if possible. My monitor is a Bush TV, model LE-28GX01 and currently limits me to 1360x768. My other monitor (I have a dual setup) works just fine with 1280x1024. I have also checked my motherboard's manual to validate whether I have any limitations to my settings and seems I have none. I would like to use a higher resolution and cannot make it so with xrandr... |
| 20:47.57 | stefanos82 | Any advice? |
| 20:48.47 | AndikaSagala | why the unix which command not shown any result? i am using debian in qemu/kvm fedora machine |
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| 20:48.56 | AndikaSagala | "which" command |
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| 20:49.20 | oerheks | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.25 | Delf | stefanos82: What's the native resolution of your TV? |
| 20:50.04 | stefanos82 | AndikaSagala: prefer "command -v 'your-program-here'" over "which" |
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| 20:51.03 | stefanos82 | Delf: when you say native resolution, what do you mean exactly? English is not my native language and I don't fully understand idioms |
| 20:51.25 | AndikaSagala | i just install a software. and then run the mlocate update by using command "updatedb" |
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| 20:52.01 | AndikaSagala | but i still got nothing for what i install by input command "which $thesoftwarewasinstalled" |
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| 20:52.31 | jelly | isthis4real57468, are you a bot? |
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| 20:53.06 | Delf | stefanos82: Native resolution is the resolution that your tv prefers. It's possible that there is down-scaling going on when you set a resolution above 1360x768 |
| 20:53.13 | isthis4real57468 | not anymore :) |
| 20:53.28 | Delf | stefanos82: What oerheks said. |
| 20:53.50 | isthis4real57468 | lol jk...my freenode connection kept disconnecting and reconnecting...not sure why, but im using a different client, and no issues for 15min sounds good for now |
| 20:53.55 | stefanos82 | Delf: yeah I read that link (thanks oerheks) and got a bit disappointed |
| 20:54.11 | stefanos82 | does that mean I'm locked in that HD resolution? -_- |
| 20:54.17 | oerheks | yes |
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| 20:54.29 | jelly | very well, carry on :-) |
| 20:54.37 | stefanos82 | oerheks: well, this suck :/ |
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| 20:55.09 | KOLANICH | Hi. Is it acceptible to upload automatically-generated packages? |
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| 20:56.00 | KOLANICH | I mean fully automated generation from upstream git. |
| 20:56.57 | AndikaSagala | even with using command "which sysctl" it is not show any result |
| 20:57.12 | AndikaSagala | is it because of the bin located in sbin ? |
| 20:57.31 | AndikaSagala | "which pwd" showing result "/usr/bin/pwd" |
| 20:57.56 | AndikaSagala | "which sysctl" not showing any result. the actual sysctl bin located in "/usr/sbin/sysctl" |
| 20:57.56 | stefanos82 | AndikaSagala: can you try "command -v sysctl" and tell me what's the output it produces? |
| 20:58.17 | AndikaSagala | none |
| 20:58.19 | AndikaSagala | blank |
| 20:58.28 | AndikaSagala | there is no any result |
| 20:58.31 | AndikaSagala | "command -v sysctl" |
| 20:58.49 | stefanos82 | yes because it's a system command |
| 20:58.58 | oerheks | sysctl is part of the procps: /proc file system utilities package |
| 20:59.04 | stefanos82 | if you use sudo, try sudo sh -c 'command -v sysctl' |
| 20:59.22 | AndikaSagala | i dont get it |
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| 20:59.37 | AndikaSagala | "command -v sysctl" <-- the command is what? |
| 20:59.58 | stefanos82 | the portable way to produce the same output as which |
| 20:59.58 | oerheks | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.24 | stefanos82 | oerheks: not the right choice to be honest with you |
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| 21:02.32 | stefanos82 | AndikaSagala: this answers your question https://stackoverflow.com/a/677212 |
| 21:02.50 | AndikaSagala | how do i located the bin in /usr/sbin ? |
| 21:03.06 | AndikaSagala | it is fine for me, i can solve it using math logic. |
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| 21:03.29 | AndikaSagala | but just wondering that that "which" command not detect any bin in /usr/sbin/*.* |
| 21:04.27 | AndikaSagala | for any binary inside /usr/sbin not detected using 'which' command |
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| 21:05.18 | wasamasa | it's not in your regular PATH, but in root's PATH |
| 21:05.47 | AndikaSagala | command -v which <-- showing result: /usr/bin/which |
| 21:06.11 | AndikaSagala | command -v sysctl <-- not showing any result. because the path location in sbin |
| 21:06.27 | wasamasa | try `echo $PATH` |
| 21:06.50 | AndikaSagala | also same between "which sysctl" and "command -v sysctl" |
| 21:07.07 | AndikaSagala | i don't want more unix command. i will solve it suing math logic |
| 21:07.08 | AndikaSagala | thanks |
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| 21:07.40 | Gigglebyte | Can anyone help me backup Thunderbird folders from the command line in Safe Mode? |
| 21:08.06 | AndikaSagala | ***using |
| 21:08.17 | AndikaSagala | i don't want more unix command. i will solve it using math logic |
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| 21:10.29 | Latr_work | Gigglebyte: cp --rp ~/.thunderbird /path/to/drive |
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| 21:10.45 | Latr_work | cp -rp ~/.thunderbird /path/to/drive |
| 21:10.58 | Latr_work | or /home/username/.thunderbird |
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| 21:12.20 | Gigglebyte | Latr_work> Can this be done from root in recovery mode? |
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| 21:16.04 | Latr_work | Yes, but I am not sure what you mean by recovering mode |
| 21:16.47 | Latr_work | Just mount the partition/volume from a live cd |
| 21:17.34 | Gigglebyte | Latr_work> I get an error message that it isn't a directory so I might have the wrong path. I tried the /home/username/thunderbird option |
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| 21:18.22 | Latr_work | it is .thunderbird |
| 21:18.42 | Latr_work | and you need to replace username with the actual username the .thunderbird folder is located into |
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| 21:29.10 | Gigglebyte | I can't even get a folder created on the USB stick using mkdir. Not sure what is going on. |
| 21:31.19 | Latr_work | Right. I guess you need to learn some basic essentials |
| 21:31.42 | Latr_work | I am happy to help if you can provide outputs and follow advices |
| 21:32.45 | Latr_work | In the meantime, does anyone know how can I build a package built for sid? |
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| 21:32.52 | Latr_work | into stable |
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| 21:34.45 | zatumil | backports.debian.org |
| 21:35.03 | Latr_work | zatumil: the packages I need are not in backports atm |
| 21:35.09 | Latr_work | I am referring to Mesa 19 |
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| 21:36.12 | LtL | !ssb |
| 21:36.12 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 21:37.59 | LtL | Latr_work: read ssb factoid. |
| 21:38.18 | Latr_work | LtL: very useful thanks |
| 21:38.27 | LtL | Latr_work: cheers |
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| 21:44.40 | Gigglebyte | Latr_work> Cant get the laptop to boot from live cd. I am at a fixit clinic, and no linux people here today. However, it was suggested I remove the hard drive to force the laptop to boot from it. the laptop does recognize the Patriot Memory stick. |
| 21:45.08 | jimnierd | ! list |
| 21:45.08 | dpkg | jimnierd: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 21:45.54 | Latr_work | Gigglebyte: can't you see it if you run fdisk -l ? |
| 21:46.08 | zapatista | Giglebyte: you must be capable of choosing the boot media during startup. It must be f8 or F10 or something like that. |
| 21:46.31 | zapatista | However, if bios is password protected, you cannot get into (bios) boot menu. |
| 21:49.34 | jim | hi... just ran into a possible bug... when I did adduser foo, the only other plain user I had was the one made when I installed... that user ID is 1000, and /etc/passwd shows the user ID for foo is 1001 (no surprises so far), but then, I try to su - foo and create a dir in the home dir, and it says permission denied... turns out the dir is owned by user ID 1004, for which there's not a /etc/passwd entry... |
| 21:50.06 | Gigglebyte | zapatista> I already went into the boot, and made sure the usb stick was the first boot device. In spite of this, the System 76 (clevo) wouldn't boot from stick. Not really sure why. I am now in root in recovery mode, and can't get the thunderbird profile copied. |
| 21:50.07 | jim | I solved the immediate problem by chowning foo's home dir to foo.foo |
| 21:50.26 | Gigglebyte | I tired the following commands: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
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| 21:50.46 | Gigglebyte | Then I tried cp -rp ~/.thunderbird /mnt |
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| 21:51.07 | Gigglebyte | I get an error message that it cannot stat /root/.thunderbird/: no such file or directory |
| 21:51.17 | LtL | Gigglebyte: have you been in the BIOS? Boot priority must be set to boot from your 'live media' before it boots from a hard drive. Or it will not boot from the media image. |
| 21:52.05 | Gigglebyte | Ltl> I have been in the bios many times, and not only is the priority correct, fast boot has been shut off, and I made sure it was set to UEFI. |
| 21:52.13 | LtL | Gigglebyte: your thunderbird directory won't be in root's directory but in the user's dir. |
| 21:52.40 | Gigglebyte | Ltl> How do i get to the user directory from root in recovery mode? |
| 21:52.59 | Gigglebyte | Nothing comes up when I run ls |
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| 21:53.40 | jim | so then there's nothing in it (well maybe hidden files, whose name starts with . |
| 21:53.41 | jim | ) |
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| 21:55.33 | LtL | Gigglebyte: secure boot off? not sure if that will make a difference. I am not familiar with recovery mode. does ls -la /home/ # show your user? |
| 21:55.33 | Gigglebyte | Ltl> yes, it shows it |
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| 21:55.40 | LtL | Gigglebyte: then as root you should be able to copy files, just be sure to preserve permissions. |
| 21:55.58 | tomreyn | jim: the situation you are describing means that the the home directory the newly created user has existed previously, adn was owned by a user which does not (maybe no longer) exists on the system. |
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| 21:56.19 | Gigglebyte | LtL> On my screen it shows two entries for rood, and the last one is titled by my first name. Not sure what to do now. |
| 21:56.29 | tomreyn | jim: adduser would have wanred that it encountered a pre-existing directory when creatign this new user |
| 21:56.45 | Gigglebyte | These three entries showd up after typing ls -la /home/ #username |
| 21:57.42 | jim | tomreyn, let me check |
| 21:58.26 | tomreyn | jim: the easiest way to clean this up, if there are no important files in the home directory of the new user, is to deluser --remove-home THATNEWUSER && adduser THATNEWUSER |
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| 21:58.53 | LtL | Gigglebyte: so the correct directory is /home/yourname/.thunderbird I would imagine thunderbird is a hidden directory, easy enought to chack |
| 21:59.13 | jim | tomreyn, I wasn't watching carefully enough... it warned that /home/foo already existed |
| 21:59.24 | LtL | pardon my typing |
| 22:00.51 | tomreyn | jim: so you can do what i stated above. alternatively you can chown -R 1001:1001 /home/THATNEWUSER and cp all the dotfiles in /etc/skel to (home/THATNEWUSER/ (thus overwriting previously existing files of the same name - careful there) |
| 22:00.55 | LtL | Gigglebyte: by the way, there should be no /home/root/ directory if by 'rood' you meant root |
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| 22:05.40 | pepper64 | Hi, I accidentally hide windows borders for mpv with a accidental key combination, how can I bring it back, it is windows less borderless, wayland gnome |
| 22:06.48 | oerheks | pepper64, F11 perhaps? |
| 22:07.52 | pepper64 | oerheks, nope doesnt work, no response, searched dconf database for mpv, remove mpv's config, not solved, I guess its not mpv |
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| 22:14.54 | Gigglebyte | LTL> I have tried to mount the device that the data is being copied from, and the device it is going to, but ran into trouble. I get an error indicating that the volume was not properly unmounted when running fsck. |
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| 22:15.37 | AndikaSagala | is it mean that all binaries which located in path /usr/sbin are secure binaries ? |
| 22:16.04 | AndikaSagala | and all binaries which located in path /usr/bin are just ordinary binaries ? |
| 22:16.34 | Gigglebyte | I get the following error message when running cp /home/randal/ .thunderibrd /mnt: -r not specified: omitting directory /home/randal and also indicates cannot stat .thunderid: no such file or directory |
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| 22:18.43 | AndikaSagala | i writing a scripting. i put it inside /usr/bin . so it is fine and ok ? just ordinary script/software |
| 22:18.49 | AndikaSagala | i am writing a scripting. i put it inside /usr/bin . so it is fine and ok ? just ordinary script/software |
| 22:19.03 | AndikaSagala | i didn't put it inside /usr/sbin |
| 22:19.30 | LtL | Gigglebyte: your spelling is wrong for one thing, secondly be certain the device you fdisk'ed is okay. what does ls -la /home/randa1/.thunderbird say? thunderbird stuff may also be in ~/.config/thunderbird/ you'll need to find it. |
| 22:19.39 | c0rnelius | you could stick it in /usr/local/bin if you like |
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| 22:20.01 | c0rnelius | which is where i tend put my scripts |
| 22:20.27 | AndikaSagala | ok sir. thanks for the advide |
| 22:20.31 | AndikaSagala | ok sir. thanks for the advice |
| 22:21.08 | c0rnelius | or /opt/bin but you would then need to make sure you add it to ur path. |
| 22:21.18 | c0rnelius | if it's not already there that is |
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| 22:22.34 | LtL | Gigglebyte: cp alone won't preserve permission or be recursive, cp -rp will. i'd also recommend rsync -av |
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| 22:26.56 | LtL | Gigglebyte: slight modification, don't use ~/whatever use the absolute path '~' means your home dir, as root that would be /root/ |
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| 22:28.25 | Gigglebyte | LtL> Here is the results from ls -la /home/randal .thunderbird http://paste.debian.net/1111173/ |
| 22:29.01 | LtL | Gigglebyte: before i look, thats wrong |
| 22:30.31 | LtL | Gigglebyte: there should be no root entry, something is very wrong |
| 22:32.08 | Gigglebyte | LtL> the question is what. Most data should be on sda4 -- even though partitions are from sda1 - sda8 |
| 22:32.22 | Gigglebyte | This is not counting the permissions for the USB memory stick. |
| 22:32.35 | LtL | Gigglebyte: root seems to own a or the directory in that output, it shouldn't. also theres nothing in that directory but skeleton files |
| 22:33.08 | LtL | Gigglebyte: paste ls -la /home/ |
| 22:34.23 | LtL | Gigglebyte: i have no idea about your partitioning scheme, hopefully someone can help. |
| 22:36.49 | Gigglebyte | Ltl> Here is the result for ls -ls /home/ http://paste.debian.net/1111184/ |
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| 22:40.57 | LtL | Gigglebyte: weird, looks like you have a lot of data in /home/root/ i think you made a mistake along the way |
| 22:41.46 | Gigglebyte | LtL> I just read that .thunderbird is a hidden folder, and that I need to use the command to unhide it https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/moving-thunderbird-data-to-a-new-computer |
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| 22:46.19 | LtL | Gigglebyte: those look like ms windows instruction. there is no reason you can't use the command line, it looks like you pasted /home/randal into /home/root/ which sholdn't even exist |
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| 22:47.26 | Gigglebyte | LtL> What is the correct command for copying the Thunderbird folders/profile ?? |
| 22:48.45 | LtL | Gigglebyte: we don't even know whare its at! it certainly is not in /home/randal anymore, its probably in /home/root = big mistake but fixable |
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| 22:49.23 | Gigglebyte | LtL> How do i check? Back in 30 minutes. |
| 22:49.34 | Gigglebyte | Oophs ignore last line. I will be back in 5 minutes. |
| 22:49.42 | dvs | too late! |
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| 22:50.06 | LtL | Gigglebyte: file managers can ruin your day! like i said, whats in /home/root/ ? probably all your stuff but now owned by root |
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| 22:51.03 | LtL | /me will return later. |
| 22:51.22 | LtL | hiya dvs |
| 22:51.58 | dvs | yo |
| 22:53.41 | Gigglebyte | i'm back |
| 22:54.45 | annadane | i've sometimes considered moving to cli only for file stuff |
| 22:54.56 | annadane | thunar had at least one really nasty bug i know of |
| 22:55.18 | annadane | and i think even things like copying/moving files don't always work on certain file managers... super frustrating |
| 22:55.33 | Gigglebyte | Isn't there a filter that could help me find the thunderbird profile? |
| 22:55.38 | Gigglebyte | Maybe a grep command? |
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| 22:56.42 | Gigglebyte | Look like they are bagging it up here at the Fixit clinic so please memo serve me if you can think of anything profound to say. |
| 22:56.47 | Gigglebyte | byby |
| 22:58.50 | LtL | i wonder if he logged into X as root.. |
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| 23:01.38 | Latr_work | I wouldn't be too surprised about it |
| 23:03.01 | ratrace | annadane: I like ranger (terminal based file manager) a lot |
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| 23:07.46 | LtL | fixit clinics that don't know linux should have their 'fixit' revoked ;) |
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| 23:09.50 | LtL | i mean whoever heard of /home/root/ !! logged into X might just do that. |
| 23:10.07 | LtL | as root, that is. |
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| 23:11.35 | wskyx | there is no /home/root |
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| 23:11.39 | wskyx | there is /root |
| 23:11.52 | Latr_work | LtL: btw I do not understand the part 4 of ssb.. apt -b? |
| 23:12.01 | Latr_work | that looks to be a illegal option |
| 23:12.04 | LtL | wskyx: correct, except for gigglebyte |
| 23:13.59 | LtL | okay, seems i read that paste wrong, my mistake |
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| 23:15.07 | LtL | gigglebyte has nothing in his ~ dir however. where its at, i dunno. |
| 23:15.33 | Latr_work | LtL: no worries. I get the idea anyways |
| 23:16.16 | Latr_work | LtL: I could sort out his mess if given ssh/rdp access.. However, I usually charge for it. |
| 23:17.14 | LtL | Latr_work: i don't charge but he has a mess going on. |
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| 23:19.07 | Latr_work | I would have done it for free just because I use to get help here myself |
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| 23:19.18 | Latr_work | but he disappeared |
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| 23:27.29 | Ether_Man | Anyone that could suggest a debian derivate that is designed to either 1. Run from USB in that it just loads from usb but loads it into RAM and such, so as to avoid writing to the usb as much as possible. or 2. designed to boot minimally from usb, but the system itself, along with all writing, is done on a multi drive btrfs array? |
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| 23:40.58 | isthis4real57468 | crazy question...has anyone successfully used an ubuntu kernel on debian...and managed to have keep updating from some ubuntu repo without bugs? |
| 23:41.46 | dvs | !frankendebian |
| 23:41.46 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall> |
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| 23:44.22 | annadane | the kernel probably wouldn't pull in too many dependencies, though |
| 23:44.33 | annadane | still, the ubuntu kernel is probably patched a bit for ubuntu |
| 23:44.40 | annadane | you can just compile your own from upstream or use backports |
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| 23:51.47 | c0rnelius | the kernel would pull in libc which would probably not be good. |
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| 23:51.56 | c0rnelius | better off compiling ur own kernel |
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| 23:53.42 | themill | [citation needed] |
| 23:53.47 | c0rnelius | and depending on the distro "i'm not sure what ubuntu connects that too" but OpenSUSE for example connects that to all kinds of business, as do other distros. |
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