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| 06:24.02 | NetGirl | any opinions or thoughts on unattendedugrades? |
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| 06:26.44 | nkuttler | NetGirl: bad |
| 06:26.55 | NetGirl | nkuttler: how/why? |
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| 06:32.55 | vvor | NetGirl: BAD. as it's unattended... |
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| 06:33.44 | NetGirl | well.. sometimes you're at vacation and you just wanna relax for a month without attending anything |
| 06:34.05 | vvor | NetGirl: Unless you have a fail safe system. Let it be. |
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| 06:34.28 | NetGirl | and boom, a 0 day exploit enters the arena |
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| 06:34.59 | NetGirl | it's peoples mail |
| 06:35.11 | NetGirl | backup essential I guess. |
| 06:36.10 | NetGirl | how do you even upgrade something that's running such as a web server if you're on a VPS? |
| 06:36.22 | NetGirl | if people are using the service |
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| 06:38.52 | jelly | NetGirl: schedule downtime, instead of hoping the distro unattended process gets it 100% right |
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| 06:39.46 | jelly | it's a newis feature, and sometimes it doesn't |
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| 06:39.57 | jelly | newish |
| 06:40.22 | Logan2000 | Does anyone use tvheadend? |
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| 06:42.34 | RoyK | NetGirl: I've used unatteded upgrades for years - it works |
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| 06:43.40 | RoyK | vvor: seriously - how often do things break doring an apt upgrade? |
| 06:44.51 | RoyK | NetGirl: unless you're babysitting your machine 24x7, unattended-upgrades is a good idea |
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| 06:46.00 | RoyK | jelly: unattended-upgrades don't reboot your machine by default |
| 06:47.32 | jelly | RoyK: I didn't say anything about reboot being the only or even the major failure mode |
| 06:47.33 | NetGirl | I've got basically no experience so this is really hard for me to make a call on :D |
| 06:48.03 | NetGirl | I'll update manually until I get bored enough to automate it and then experience the difference I guess |
| 06:48.19 | annadane | i think for me my own personal approach if i went on vacation or something is just to shut off the pc and apply the updates when i get back; when i use my computer daily, i run the apt operations myself |
| 06:48.35 | annadane | unattended upgrades is great for servers |
| 06:48.59 | NetGirl | this is intended for servers |
| 06:49.13 | RoyK | NetGirl: I use it on all my servers |
| 06:49.24 | NetGirl | does it restart the services as well? |
| 06:49.25 | RoyK | NetGirl: it's reasonably safe |
| 06:49.28 | RoyK | yes |
| 06:49.32 | jelly | I use it on none of my servers, and can't trust it. |
| 06:49.43 | jelly | YMMV :-) |
| 06:49.49 | vvor | NetGirl: It is a very easy call. If it breaks I deal with it in this way... And this outcome is OK with me/my boss. |
| 06:49.52 | RoyK | jelly: it works, bro ;) |
| 06:50.10 | NetGirl | well, imagine a 0 day hitting the scene while you're getting ready for bed.. could take a day before you check your server. |
| 06:50.16 | RoyK | vvor: it hasn't broken any of my stuff in five years |
| 06:50.30 | RoyK | vvor: and I manage quite a few machines |
| 06:50.33 | jelly | RoyK: I've seen how it works in the distro that invented it. Maybe it got better. |
| 06:50.51 | NetGirl | jelly: have you had problems with it? |
| 06:51.04 | RoyK | 1982 perhaps |
| 06:51.09 | kadiro | some keys sudently stop orking ho to fix tht |
| 06:51.38 | NetGirl | I suppose it'd be annoying if it upgraded and restarted for minor non-important updates |
| 06:52.06 | RoyK | NetGirl: it won't restart unless it has to and if you expicitly configure it to do so |
| 06:52.13 | jelly | it restarts affected services by necessity |
| 06:52.17 | RoyK | the server, that is |
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| 06:52.26 | kadiro | it hppen mny times by the y |
| 06:52.53 | NetGirl | does it only update if it's critical? |
| 06:53.05 | RoyK | NetGirl: that's configurable |
| 06:53.08 | jelly | server restart is 10-30s downtime when you have a VM, that's less problematic |
| 06:53.13 | RoyK | NetGirl: just install it and check the config |
| 06:53.24 | RoyK | NetGirl: then uninstall it if you don't like it |
| 06:53.49 | kadiro | test |
| 06:54.11 | RoyK | NetGirl: generally, you can choose between security updates, updates or dist-upgrade, and if you want it to reboot on demand, and if so, when and so forth |
| 06:54.19 | kadiro | aqwzsxedc it seems it magically orking agin |
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| 06:56.21 | kadiro | I think this is the cause: service name='org.freedesktop.PackageKit' unit='packagekit.service' requested by ':1.185' (uid=0 pid=19584 comm="/usr/bin/gdbus call --system --dest org.freedeskto") |
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| 06:58.17 | kadiro | maybe not |
| 07:00.23 | kadiro | journalctl doesn't show usefull info about what is it |
| 07:01.01 | kadiro | I will conclude it is just a hardware problem |
| 07:04.02 | kadiro | I was right, the cable have some cutting wires or they are going to be cutted soon |
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| 08:41.20 | laughingtiger | debian 10 is so stable that I begin to feel bored. |
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| 08:43.35 | ratrace | laughingtiger: you can always bump to sid |
| 08:43.56 | grisher | i use sid and never have issues tho |
| 08:44.25 | laughingtiger | ratrace, well, sometime in the future I'll try. thank you for the advice. |
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| 08:48.50 | annadane | lol |
| 08:48.58 | annadane | debian complaint: "works too well" |
| 08:49.42 | Kharec | users are never happy, they're humans. |
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| 08:51.30 | ratrace | !next |
| 08:51.30 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 08:57.57 | Sepultura | hallo |
| 08:58.03 | Sepultura | anyone knows a good bulk renamer where I can change a character in subdirectories in a directory? |
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| 09:21.18 | ratrace | Sepultura: give an example? |
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| 09:27.49 | Tuor | ratrace: The problem I had with OpenSSH, it was a virtual network adapter problem (probably). I changed the networkadapter and couldn't reproduce the problem. So it seems it's only that simple... |
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| 09:28.28 | ratrace | Tuor: but putty worked fine |
| 09:30.35 | Tuor | yes and no. Putty could not kill the VM, but later we installed nginx on the VM and used it. As soon as we did load a page with a lot of content (via the nginx) the VM freezed again. We did a lot of testing/debugging and just 15 min ago, I tested to change the network adapter and I can't reproduce the problem (not with Windows 10 OpenSSH and not with web pages with a lot of content). |
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| 09:32.45 | gremel_lemerg | May I get some help with mounting a CD drive? Updated to 10.1 and the cdrom is no longer mounted. It is being detected as it shows a device in dmesg, however it states *-cdrom UNCLAIMED when lshw is run. |
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| 09:33.17 | gremel_lemerg | It seems like it is not creating a point in /dev ? |
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| 09:36.23 | NetGirl | older npm version in debian doesn't support the latest version of nodejs in debians repo.. is it known? Do I have to compile it myself? |
| 09:37.15 | gremel_lemerg | If it's of any help, wodim shows the following: 0 dev='/dev/sg1'rwrw-- : 'PLDS' 'DVD+-RW DU-8A5LH' |
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| 10:31.47 | dka | Hi |
| 10:31.54 | dka | I just noticed that the lockscreen on debian is not secure |
| 10:32.20 | dka | is it cinnamon or debian? |
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| 10:36.22 | Habbie | dka, in what way is it not secure? |
| 10:36.44 | annadane | the lock screen is very probably cinnamon specific but i don't know what it uses |
| 10:38.40 | annadane | but yeah please clarify not secure |
| 10:38.42 | annadane | that's really vague |
| 10:39.01 | dka | Habbie, if you use another display, then the resolution of the lock screen can change and you can access the desktop and the lock screen at the same time |
| 10:39.10 | Habbie | dka, oh that's a fun bug |
| 10:39.13 | dka | I just did it, I was able to surf on chrome |
| 10:39.50 | dka | I have 3 screen, the laptop screen which is default res 4k UHD, I use it in 1980x1080, it was close, lock screen on, I opened the laptop, and was in |
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| 10:40.44 | dka | that's not really fun it gives full access to the user's desktop, it's kind of lame |
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| 10:42.22 | annadane | dka, file a bug |
| 10:42.26 | dka | no |
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| 10:42.37 | dka | I will use it on my boss's |
| 10:42.52 | dka | add extra $$ on my paycheck |
| 10:42.55 | dka | then I'll fill a bug |
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| 10:45.56 | annadane | wonders whether this will become a 'won't fix; debian stable doesn't get those fixes; fixed in sid' |
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| 11:20.19 | boktan | i did installed snapd and any snap app i run i get this error : libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals foundlibGL error: failed to load driver: swrast how to fix it? |
| 11:20.51 | dob1 | hi, capturing tcp traffic on an host with tcpdump tcpdump host ip proto tcp -> no, tcpdump tcp host ip -> no, tcpdump host ip and proto tcp -> no, how is the right syntax |
| 11:20.53 | dob1 | ? |
| 11:21.49 | jpw | dobl: host <ip> and not tcp |
| 11:21.58 | dob1 | I want tcp |
| 11:22.03 | jpw | dobl: host <ip> and tcp |
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| 11:22.18 | dob1 | damn! thanks |
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| 11:53.29 | peanatsu | hi, I want to install an older java version (openjdk-8) on debian Buster. how would I go about doing that? |
| 11:53.57 | peanatsu | (Buster only has openjdk-11 in the packages) |
| 11:54.14 | eightyone | Good morning |
| 11:54.41 | Wulf | peanatsu: fetch the old source package and compile it yourself. Didn't try, maybe works, maybe doesn't. |
| 11:54.50 | kadiro | buster ==> openjdk-8-jre - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT |
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| 11:55.31 | Habbie | ,v openjdk-8-jre |
| 11:55.33 | judd | Package: openjdk-8-jre on amd64 -- stretch: 8u222-b10-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 8u232-b09-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 8u232-b09-1~deb9u1; sid: 8u232-b09-1 |
| 11:55.41 | Habbie | kadiro, are you sure? |
| 11:55.54 | Habbie | i only see nvidia-openjdk-8-jre/stable which seems a bit special |
| 11:56.14 | kadiro | Habbie, yeah that what i get with apt-cache search |
| 11:56.29 | Habbie | kadiro, that is weird |
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| 11:56.45 | Habbie | kadiro, can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy openjdk-8-jre'? |
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| 11:56.59 | kadiro | Habbie, maybe because I upgraded from stretch to buster |
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| 11:57.06 | Habbie | kadiro, even then it should not be visible any more |
| 11:57.10 | Habbie | but, i have to go |
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| 11:57.43 | kadiro | https://termbin.com/7dok0 |
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| 11:58.54 | jpw | stretch and sid only... that doesn't seem right |
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| 12:00.52 | kadiro | I think I have a mixing repos :D |
| 12:01.37 | jpw | the mythical Debian/Fowardports |
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| 12:01.52 | kadiro | ,v openjdk-8-jre |
| 12:01.53 | judd | Package: openjdk-8-jre on amd64 -- stretch: 8u222-b10-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 8u232-b09-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 8u232-b09-1~deb9u1; sid: 8u232-b09-1 |
| 12:02.16 | kadiro | hmm same result as Habbie |
| 12:02.29 | peanatsu | well, actually I think I will just go with adopt openjdk as recommended in #java, but thanks for the effort guys |
| 12:02.33 | Habbie | kadiro, of course ;) |
| 12:02.53 | Habbie | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929650 |
| 12:02.54 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/929650 in src:openjdk-8 (open, bullseye, sid): «openjdk-8 is staying in unstable»; severity: serious; opened: 2019-05-27; last modified: 2019-07-08. |
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| 12:57.00 | TandyUK | https://gist.github.com/tandyuk/27f042e7bde0acd991c87197ddb06e6c |
| 12:57.09 | TandyUK | anyone got any clues on wtf mught be goign on here? |
| 12:57.37 | TandyUK | can wget a file from security.debian.org, but debmirror fails with "network is unreachable" |
| 12:58.42 | jpw | do you have the env `http_proxy` set? |
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| 12:59.14 | TandyUK | theres no proxy no |
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| 12:59.56 | TandyUK | no proxy related env vars exist either |
| 13:00.51 | TandyUK | no selinux/apparmour either, and ipv6 is disabled on the host |
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| 13:01.05 | TandyUK | been through everything i can think of, never seen anything like this lol |
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| 13:02.37 | TandyUK | fwiw, this is being invoked from cobbler, but same happens when runnign the command directly |
| 13:02.49 | TandyUK | just adding a deb10 mirror to see if it does the same thing |
| 13:02.56 | Dagger | well maybe you should enable v6 then. perhaps that will be able to reach it |
| 13:03.23 | TandyUK | the wan its using has no ipv6 anyway, so that wouldnt help |
| 13:03.35 | TandyUK | and i can wget/httping using v4 without issues |
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| 13:05.06 | Dagger | there are no SRV records for archive.debian.org so it has nothing to do with that... |
| 13:05.16 | Akuw | i need to convert 5DC0BB7B0000035A to decimal and date time |
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| 13:05.57 | jpw | TandyUK: valid point though try disabling ipv6 and try again |
| 13:06.08 | TandyUK | ipv6 is already disabled |
| 13:06.21 | Dagger | ...people really can't help themselves, can they? |
| 13:06.25 | TandyUK | the host used to have v6 locally, disabled that yesterday |
| 13:06.27 | Dagger | stop recommending that we disable v6 left and right :/ |
| 13:06.31 | Wulf | Akuw: okay, what's keeping you from doing it? |
| 13:07.02 | Akuw | is a saved value and i need to convert to date and time |
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| 13:07.15 | Dagger | maybe debmirror does the download as an unprivileged user, and you've got something that blocks internet access in that case? |
| 13:07.22 | Wulf | >>> str(datetime.fromtimestamp(0x5DC0BB7B0000035A / 2**32)) |
| 13:07.22 | Wulf | '2019-11-05 00:59:55' |
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| 13:08.17 | cybrNaut | i'm trying to "aptitude upgrade". The new kernel forces an update of initramfs-tools, which falls over because it assumes I have an encrypted swap => W: initramfs-tools configuration sets RESUME=/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt |
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| 13:08.56 | cybrNaut | how can i force the initramfs-tools installer to use /dev/sda5? |
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| 13:12.00 | cybrNaut | i tried putting "RESUME=/dev/sda5" in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs-tools.conf -- makes no difference |
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| 13:12.26 | Akuw | Wulf: from console? |
| 13:12.47 | Akuw | bash: syntax error near unexpected token `datetime.fromtimestamp' |
| 13:12.59 | jelly | cybrNaut: a) edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume b) the warning is not fatal, initramfs gets built anyway |
| 13:13.04 | Akuw | str(datetime.fromtimestamp(0 x 5DC0BB7B0000035A / 2**32) |
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| 13:14.11 | cybrNaut | jelly: thanks! |
| 13:14.11 | jelly | Akuw: why are you sourcing what looks like python code, in bash?! |
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| 13:15.42 | Akuw | bash |
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| 13:17.11 | jelly | Akuw: Wulf pasted some python code, not shell |
| 13:19.45 | cybrNaut | jelly: now I get "cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda5", so it seems to still be assuming swap is encrypted. You say it's non-fatal, but b/c "aptitude upgrade" fails the initramfs-tools package never gets upgraded. Is that going to cause problems if I reboot with this new kernel? |
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| 13:29.45 | muhaha | Guys, I need help with MDADM. If I create RAID5 with three disks ( WD Red 3TB ), make FS, copy data from fourth disk ( also WD Red 3TB ), then I delete fourth disk and use it as fourth disk in RAID5, will it blend? Or is there any other method how to not delete data from disk, but make a RAID5 ? Obviously I have not spare disk to transfer my data. |
| 13:29.46 | muhaha | Thanks |
| 13:29.49 | Wulf | Akuw: d=5DC0BB7B0000035A; date -d $(printf "@%d.%03d" $((0x${d:0:8})) $((0x${d:8:8}))) |
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| 13:40.22 | jim | muhaha, you should have some non raid storage for backups |
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| 13:42.20 | TandyUK | regardless of the storage type (raid is not a backup), you cant call it a backup if its on the same system |
| 13:42.43 | TandyUK | this PSU failures which kill ALL disks for example (rare, but not impossible) |
| 13:42.46 | TandyUK | think* |
| 13:43.33 | TandyUK | 3,2,1 rule for backups: 3 copies of data, 2 different storage mediums, 1 of which is off-site |
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| 13:43.41 | jelly | muhaha: that's fine. If you know in advance you're going to have 4 members, you can also create a degraded raid5 with 4th member as "missing" |
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| 13:44.01 | jelly | muhaha: #linux-raid channel is great for mdadm questions. |
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| 13:44.43 | tMH | is gone. nsf |
| 13:44.49 | jelly | jim: backup solution is always independent of online raid setup. It could be raid as well. |
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| 13:45.53 | TandyUK | in windows world, ive come across clients doing backups of eg "C:\user\...\documents" to "C:\Backup" and thinking they were safe lol |
| 13:46.28 | greycat | That's fine if the backup is only supposed to protect the files from being corrupted by software. |
| 13:46.37 | greycat | Or by accidental user deletion, etc. |
| 13:46.52 | TandyUK | by definition, thats "a copy of the files", and not a "backup" |
| 13:47.09 | TandyUK | backup should protect you against catastrophic system failure |
| 13:47.23 | airstorm | hey, quick question, where does debian keep its source code for the linux kernel (with all distro-specific patches applied)? I'm looking for buster 4.19 |
| 13:47.43 | greycat | https://sources.debian.org/src/linux |
| 13:48.13 | airstorm | ty |
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| 13:51.37 | tarzeau | is anyone using oomd in here? i keep getting "/sys/fs/cgroup is not a valid cgroup2 filesystem" |
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| 13:52.44 | Akuw | Wulf: that is UTC or local time |
| 13:52.47 | Akuw | ? |
| 13:53.00 | gnomelight | hello, does anyone know how to disable gnome composite effects? i am looking for speeds comparable to gnome-flashback |
| 13:53.27 | Wulf | Akuw: local |
| 13:53.34 | gnomelight | right now i have animations disabled |
| 13:53.36 | Akuw | ok thanks |
| 13:53.43 | Wulf | Akuw: date -u prints utc |
| 13:54.10 | k_sze | Does anybody know which page of the Debian wiki this could be talking about? |
| 13:54.11 | k_sze | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/549124/hibernate-to-a-swap-partition-without-using-it-as-actual-swap-space#comment1021102_549281 |
| 13:54.23 | Wulf | Akuw: or use date -R. well, "man date" |
| 13:54.57 | Akuw | i have to make an script to convert the 4th column of a big file now |
| 13:55.21 | cybrNaut | am i fucked, if I reboot after a kernel update if the initramfs-tools package cannot be updated at the same time? |
| 13:55.36 | Wulf | Akuw: awk and cut can extract columns. |
| 13:55.39 | cybrNaut | is it okay for initramfs-tools to stay behind? |
| 13:55.44 | Wulf | Akuw: Or you use a proper programming language like python. |
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| 13:57.24 | gnomelight | k_sze, it appears to be this page https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Acer/AspireOne-D250-1821 |
| 13:57.37 | Akuw | i will use awk |
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| 13:59.17 | tMH | is gone. nsf |
| 13:59.27 | gnomelight | k_sze, this also appears to have bits related to the info referenced in that post https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation |
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| 13:59.48 | k_sze | right |
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| 14:00.57 | gnomelight | https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition |
| 14:01.35 | gnomelight | these three should cover all the bits that post is talking about |
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| 14:09.11 | Akuw | how can i convert same with awk? |
| 14:09.15 | Akuw | Wulf |
| 14:10.47 | Akuw | awk: line 2: function strtonum never defined |
| 14:10.50 | Akuw | why? |
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| 14:15.38 | Wulf | Akuw: I don't use awk a lot. |
| 14:15.48 | Akuw | ok |
| 14:15.50 | Wulf | it's awkward. Python is better ;-) |
| 14:15.55 | Akuw | let me ask in #awk |
| 14:16.06 | Akuw | yes, i will start working with python |
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| 16:23.40 | dfive | Hello. Why does Debian go down? |
| 16:23.46 | overbythere | o.o |
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| 16:23.56 | dfive | I was copying to it via ssh :) |
| 16:24.59 | dfive | Maybe because I installed gnome? |
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| 16:29.31 | zodd | dfive, define ¨down¨ ? |
| 16:29.59 | zodd | running out of resources? (ram, cpu, disk) |
| 16:30.24 | dfive | it hibernates |
| 16:30.35 | dfive | imho - goes to sleep |
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| 16:30.43 | greycat | ran out of battery? |
| 16:31.43 | zleap | oops |
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| 16:33.10 | dfive | just wanted to share this |
| 16:33.20 | dfive | cya |
| 16:33.21 | dfive | :) |
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| 16:34.07 | zodd | is there a #debian-therapy ? |
| 16:35.05 | pizzaiolo | zodd no but there's always #trivialand to distract you from life |
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| 16:35.22 | zodd | cool |
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| 17:40.52 | ctcx | In a command-line-only Debian, is there a way to get current Monitor's hardware resolution in pixels, without X11 tools? |
| 17:41.13 | ctcx | xdpyinfo needs Xorg installed... |
| 17:42.35 | jelly | ctcx: in general no, but you can try fbset |
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| 17:44.36 | greycat | maybe something in the edid-decode package? |
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| 17:46.24 | Kats99 | i added a ufw rule to deny port 22 yet if i run nmap i get port 22 as open for ssh |
| 17:46.35 | Kats99 | how do i close port 22 |
| 17:46.54 | greycat | The easiest way? systemctl stop ssh |
| 17:47.05 | greycat | What is your actual goal? |
| 17:47.24 | ctcx | jelly: thanks very much sir |
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| 17:47.38 | Kats99 | i ran nmap and it said 998 ports closed. 902 and 22 were open. i wanna close them |
| 17:47.58 | jelly | ctcx: what greycat said about edid-decode was also for you to try |
| 17:48.06 | greycat | Why did you run nmap, FROM WHAT COMPUTER did you run it, what ARGUMENTS did you give it, what are you trying to DO? |
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| 17:48.37 | Kats99 | umm..i ran nmap on my computer like this: nmap 192.168.43.1 |
| 17:48.39 | greycat | If you applied firewall rules to (say) eth0, but you're running nmap against localhost, then it bypasses the firewall. |
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| 17:49.12 | ctcx | Yes, sorry |
| 17:49.17 | greycat | So 192.168.43.1 is your Debian computer's LAN address, and you ran that command from a SECOND computer on the same LAN? |
| 17:49.18 | Kats99 | it bypasses the firewall??? what kinda rule is that!! how will i know which ports are open or closed then?? |
| 17:49.21 | ctcx | Thanks very much as well, greycat |
| 17:49.32 | Kats99 | no there is no second computer |
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| 17:49.35 | jelly | Kats99: you test from a different system. |
| 17:49.36 | greycat | ... |
| 17:49.57 | Kats99 | oh so it wont work from the same system |
| 17:50.14 | greycat | What are you trying to do? Why not just STOP the ssh daemon if you don't want it? |
| 17:50.24 | greycat | Or hell, REMOVE it from the computer entirely? |
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| 17:50.56 | Kats99 | i want it because i use it on my phone but it would be good to close it if im not using it |
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| 17:51.19 | greycat | systemctl stop ssh; then later, to make it run again, systemctl start ssh |
| 17:51.56 | jelly | Kats99: your phone is probably also a computer that can test tcp connections as well. |
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| 17:52.32 | Kats99 | yes i stop ssh when im not using but the port's open so i wondered if i didnt do something more to close it. now i know |
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| 17:52.45 | Kats99 | yes it's got termux in it |
| 17:52.57 | jelly | the port will not look "open" if the service is stopped |
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| 17:53.37 | greycat | P.S. "open" and "closed" are bullshit terms entirely invented by nmap and have no intrinsic meaning |
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| 17:54.05 | Kats99 | oh look the port got "closed" |
| 17:54.35 | Kats99 | i stopped ssh like 10 times and it works now |
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| 17:55.27 | Kats99 | greycat: Hey Mr. Ohio...why not drink a cup of coffee |
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| 17:56.25 | Kats99 | im losing my mind working on bash for the past 24 hours...gotta say greycat your book is really good |
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