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| 01:27.40 | lf94 | Hey! I'm looking to package libsdl2 2.0.6 (oldstable (stretch) currently has 2.0.5). Where in the packaging documentation should I start? The actual project itself has a debian/ directory pre-configured. I was able to build a package and install it with the problem of it not wanting to override the currently installed one. |
| 01:27.48 | lf94 | (For that I used --force-all) |
| 01:28.13 | lf94 | Second question is: what are the chances of it being accepted into oldstable? Or would it have to be submitted to backports? |
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| 01:31.11 | oiaohm | lf94: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases oldstable would be Stretch. 2020 it goes basically bellup that basically a 2 months off. |
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| 01:31.35 | lf94 | Yeah. That's what I'm using |
| 01:31.40 | oiaohm | lf94: I don't know if LTS will be keeping the libsdl package. |
| 01:31.43 | lf94 | I plan to update during the holidays |
| 01:31.46 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 01:31.46 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 01:31.55 | lf94 | Ah ok. |
| 01:32.00 | lf94 | I guess I can distribute the package on its own then |
| 01:32.01 | lf94 | :) |
| 01:32.18 | oiaohm | lf94: at this bellup is mainline and backports not accepting anything any more. Now LTS might. |
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| 01:32.34 | oiaohm | lf94: at this point it talk to the LTS group. |
| 01:32.49 | lf94 | Gotchya. I think it will be too much trouble for what it's worth. |
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| 01:33.00 | lf94 | I'm probably one of the few thousand using stretch still... |
| 01:33.41 | oiaohm | lf94: please note LTS only give stretch until June 2022 |
| 01:34.07 | maqr | is there some way to get all build dependencies i need to build from source? ./configure fails because some things are missing, not sure if i need to manually install them or if there's a debian way of doing it |
| 01:35.02 | oiaohm | lf94: and then you move to extend LTS> |
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| 01:36.08 | lf94 | oiaohm: ah |
| 01:36.24 | lf94 | I mean ideally, it's nice to have people (myself included) support something as long as possible |
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| 01:36.54 | oiaohm | lf94: https://deb.freexian.com/extended-lts/ extended is a pay for program. You pay for the packages you wish to keep supported. |
| 01:37.15 | lf94 | Even if I'm supporting them myself? |
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| 01:38.40 | abrotman | no, not if you support them yourself |
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| 01:41.00 | oiaohm | lf94: supporting yourself means you have no peer review that you have it right. |
| 01:41.49 | oiaohm | lf94: LTS stage you can possible submit the package you have made to be reviewed at no cost as long as it a package the still support. |
| 01:42.23 | abrotman | there's a #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net |
| 01:42.43 | lf94 | Do you think contacting the maintainers, to update to a newer version, is worth it? I was able to build it locally no problem on stretch. |
| 01:42.51 | lf94 | (It -> libsdl2 2.0.6) |
| 01:44.02 | oiaohm | lf94: it can be worth it sometimes when they run a package review they can find hey you have X install file slightly wrong or something like that. |
| 01:44.24 | oiaohm | lf94: that might only show up later when you attempt to update the package again breaking a lot of stuff. |
| 01:44.52 | lf94 | How do you normally contact maintainers? Just an email? |
| 01:45.04 | lf94 | Ah. Maintainer: Debian SDL packages maintainers <pkg-sdl-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org> |
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| 01:45.13 | lf94 | So I just send an email to this list? |
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| 01:46.08 | oiaohm | lf94: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Contact you have the mailing list and irc for LTS people. |
| 01:46.21 | lf94 | oiaohm: I mean the package maintainer :) |
| 01:46.30 | abrotman | lf94: really, ask them .. we're not going to be much help |
| 01:46.38 | lf94 | Ok :) |
| 01:46.42 | lf94 | Thank you! |
| 01:47.20 | oiaohm | lf94: I was more thinkign with the LTS as you being the LTS support person and sending the package up for review. |
| 01:47.48 | oiaohm | So get extra support that you have not screwed something up that bites you in 6 or 8 months time. |
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| 02:10.27 | violentE | so I thought I had this issue resolved - I'm unable to resolve some domains but others are okay. I originally had an issue with dns after a fresh install but it turned out that I had to active ethernet connections and removing one solved the issue but I think I only made a work around. So basically the fix: putting "nameserver 8.8.8.8" into /etc/resolv.conf works but I can't figure out a long term solution to this |
| 02:10.51 | violentE | *two |
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| 02:12.14 | jim | violentE, how do you configure your net? |
| 02:13.09 | violentE | I'm using ethernet if that's what your wondering |
| 02:14.12 | jim | violentE, and do you use the /etc/network/interfaces file to configure it? |
| 02:14.25 | jim | or something else? |
| 02:14.56 | jim | also, could you show the output of: ls /sys/class/net |
| 02:15.05 | violentE | I'm unsure and yes one sec |
| 02:15.38 | jim | maybe your net was configured when you installed debian, and you didn't touch it after that |
| 02:15.44 | abrotman | does it have te same problem when not using your VPN? |
| 02:16.04 | jim | he has a vpn? |
| 02:16.21 | abrotman | based on his hostmask, I'd guess so |
| 02:16.25 | violentE | yes that correct but then I started messing with a bit because my vpn wasn't working but it did work after install until I tried to do connect the vpn |
| 02:16.45 | violentE | also /sys/class/net is a directory |
| 02:16.48 | jim | abrotman, oh okj |
| 02:17.02 | jim | violentE, yes |
| 02:17.14 | violentE | and yes I have a vpn, currently unable to connect to it, and while not connect can't ping the vpns domain |
| 02:17.43 | violentE | oh alright its: enp2s0f0 enp2s0f1 enp3s0 lo |
| 02:17.51 | jim | there's stuff in that dir, and I'm interested in seeing the listing of what that dir has (by some coincidence, they are also the names of your interfaces) |
| 02:18.03 | jim | you have three ethernet ports? |
| 02:18.08 | violentE | yes |
| 02:18.12 | jim | ok |
| 02:18.33 | violentE | it should be noted that one is unmanaged |
| 02:18.49 | violentE | it I switch it to managed=true stuff breaks |
| 02:18.50 | jim | yeah, I stuck a 4-port into a machine I have, so it has 5 total |
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| 02:20.02 | jim | violentE, can you run: dig @8.8.8.8 yahoo.com successfully? |
| 02:20.28 | violentE | yes |
| 02:20.42 | jim | ok, so you see the A record at least |
| 02:20.50 | jim | records that is |
| 02:21.06 | violentE | yes several |
| 02:21.27 | jim | ok, good so far... |
| 02:21.57 | jim | do you have nc installed? ( which nc returns something like /bin/nc) |
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| 02:22.26 | violentE | no I'm installing it now |
| 02:22.35 | violentE | ok |
| 02:22.42 | jim | package name is netcat |
| 02:23.07 | violentE | installed |
| 02:23.13 | jim | great... |
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| 02:24.39 | jim | abrotman, could his interfaces file have sensitive info in it? |
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| 02:25.04 | jim | passwords and such |
| 02:25.13 | violentE | why would it |
| 02:25.27 | jim | well take a look at it and see |
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| 02:26.40 | violentE | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.43 | jim | I was thinking that because you have a vpn, the credentials for it could be in the interfaces file, in which case you shouldn't pastebin it |
| 02:26.57 | jim | we'd have to figure something else out |
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| 02:28.27 | jim | violentE, yeah, ok, you're good with sharing it? if so, run this: cat /etc/network/interfaces | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 02:29.15 | jim | the nc will show a link, that's the pastebin with the interfaces file |
| 02:29.36 | abrotman | doubtful |
| 02:29.58 | violentE | is termbin indexed |
| 02:30.15 | jim | I have no idea :) |
| 02:31.34 | violentE | eh w.e here you go - https://termin.com39v7 |
| 02:31.38 | violentE | that is p cool thought |
| 02:32.34 | violentE | sorry - https://termin.com/39v7 |
| 02:32.56 | mrcrypto08 | Can anyone tell me the difference between kali and Debian?ðð |
| 02:34.00 | jim | mrcrypto08, debian is the "parent" to dists like kali, ubuntu, knoppix, others |
| 02:34.01 | abrotman | mrcrypto08: ask the Kali channel |
| 02:34.28 | abrotman | (they would know how they've changed it, we wouldn't) |
| 02:34.48 | mrcrypto08 | Okay |
| 02:35.17 | jim | mrcrypto08, generally speaking, I've found debian to be the most stable, also, package mirrors are much faster (given one's practically on top of me) |
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| 02:36.34 | mrcrypto08 | I am studying pentestin and my primary os is kali but someone on freenode channel told me to not to use kali as your primary os |
| 02:36.34 | jim | many things in kali just don't work when you -install- it, instead, you should just boot it as a usb boot |
| 02:37.06 | jim | yeah, kali doesn't work for some things |
| 02:37.36 | mrcrypto08 | Okay |
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| 02:38.19 | mrcrypto08 | I try to use kali with virtual box my i am not able to run any os on virtual box properly |
| 02:38.30 | jim | it might be possible to build the pentesting tools from kali on debian, if you can get source packages... this is a windy, twisty journey though |
| 02:38.59 | mrcrypto08 | I have 5th gen i5 with 4 gb ram but I don't know why virtual box not run smoothly |
| 02:39.08 | Logan2000 | You can't run hacking tools that need hardware access very efficiently with cloud computing like virtualbox |
| 02:39.25 | violentE | 4gb ram? eh |
| 02:39.32 | Logan2000 | So regardless, it does not matter too much for all practical purposes, does it? |
| 02:39.36 | grimR_ | have you tried parrot linux? |
| 02:39.44 | mrcrypto08 | No |
| 02:39.51 | jim | 4gb ram is on the low side, but it will work |
| 02:39.52 | violentE | thats how big you vbox should be to be functional, maybe running as usb *would*be better |
| 02:39.53 | grimR_ | it's great. It is designed to be a daily driver |
| 02:39.57 | grimR_ | or run live |
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| 02:40.06 | grimR_ | it's all I use and you will love it. |
| 02:40.11 | violentE | yeah but this is kali its bloated |
| 02:40.27 | grimR_ | kali is bloated. Parrot is leaner and great on resources |
| 02:40.44 | violentE | parrot imo is bloated too :p |
| 02:40.49 | violentE | waay to many tools |
| 02:40.55 | jim | violentE, ok, the paste shows that one of your ethernets will be used to pull dhcp |
| 02:40.58 | grimR_ | I only use 400megs ram on it |
| 02:41.06 | grimR_ | unless running extra resource intensive stuff |
| 02:41.27 | grimR_ | it is definitely much faster than kali... acording to most who try it. I have no delay w/anything |
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| 02:41.47 | violentE | jim yes I'm using only one of the ethernet ports atm |
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| 02:41.52 | mrcrypto08 | Kali is also very fast |
| 02:42.04 | grimR_ | your experience of course may vary but I use i3 intel processor 2.1GHZ 4gigs ram. and have no issues. |
| 02:42.12 | violentE | kali isn't fast |
| 02:42.28 | jim | violentE, what you can do, is install a package named resolvconf which adds new syntax possibilities to /etc/network/interfaces, that allow you to set a dns server |
| 02:42.28 | grimR_ | ya I never heard anyone say kali was fast before. |
| 02:42.33 | violentE | actually not true if you gut it and run as usb -- super fast |
| 02:42.54 | violentE | jim but I already installed that, should I reinstall? |
| 02:43.09 | jim | oh you did... |
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| 02:43.35 | jim | ok, it's active, and you can add lines that specify the name server |
| 02:43.59 | abrotman | violentE: if you don't set your DNS to 8.8.8.8, which ones does it give you? The ones from your VPN provider, or your ISP? |
| 02:44.27 | violentE | this fixes is abrotman but I want to actually fix it not have a work around |
| 02:44.38 | mrcrypto08 | My hard disk is going to die does that effect virtual box?ðð |
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| 02:45.10 | abrotman | it affects everything |
| 02:45.11 | violentE | sorry just read that last part, what |
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| 02:45.20 | mrcrypto08 | When I start my system it shows an error that your harddisk is going to die |
| 02:45.23 | abrotman | violentE: you can set a DNS server in your dns client configuration |
| 02:45.39 | abrotman | mrcrypto08: and we don't support Kali here |
| 02:46.38 | mrcrypto08 | I am not supporting kali i am just asking which os is better for a penetration testing prospective |
| 02:47.02 | jim | I dunno what to tell you about that |
| 02:47.09 | abrotman | it's about the tools, not the OS .. |
| 02:47.23 | violentE | and your talking about something other than adding 8.8.8.8 to /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:47.47 | mrcrypto08 | But we can run the tools from the os |
| 02:48.00 | jim | debian is the (much) more stable platform, if you can compile the tools there, that would be a better choice |
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| 02:48.34 | mrcrypto08 | Okay thanks i will try |
| 02:49.19 | Logan2000 | Mrcrypto, why don't you get a new HDD to use as your system drive regardless... |
| 02:49.36 | jim | violentE, you put it in /etc/network/interfaces under the iface declaration (I forgot the exact syntax, it might be (tab or indent)dns-nameserver 1.2.3.4 |
| 02:49.46 | Logan2000 | Unless you are trying to conduct a data loss science experiment |
| 02:50.13 | grimR_ | when I have a dying hard drive I just break out one of my old broken laptops and switch hard drives. I don't know if this is an option for you. But it is easy to just throw another hard drive in autodetected etc. |
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| 02:53.38 | Logan2000 | grime, |
| 02:53.51 | violentE | abrotman, ok thats set but what are you trying to see? |
| 02:54.19 | Logan2000 | *grimr agreed, especially for a system hard disk with errors. It's too easy to swap, and not worth the risk |
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| 02:56.26 | violentE | oh |
| 02:57.38 | violentE | ok so my /etc/network/interfaces has uses enp3sf0 but I'm using enp2s0f1 |
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| 03:01.35 | violentE | eh changed it nothing happened |
| 03:01.47 | violentE | or changed I should say |
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| 03:12.33 | violentE | ok, I think I'm back to the beginning where I orginally started. I plugged the ethernet port back into the port that was originally having a problem, and restarted the network manager and but back what I changed in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:12.45 | violentE | I isn't able to resolve any domains now |
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| 03:21.52 | derpadmin | <violentE> |
| 03:22.04 | derpadmin | violentE can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 03:23.15 | violentE | derpadmin, yes but I might have mucked it up further I can no long resolve google.com |
| 03:23.45 | violentE | oh and now I have two wired connections for one ethernet port when I restart network-manager |
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| 03:26.29 | derpadmin | the goal is simply resolving? |
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| 03:26.45 | violentE | essentially yes |
| 03:27.01 | derpadmin | what is the command "ip a" gives you interface wise? |
| 03:28.37 | violentE | enp2s0f0 enp2s0f1 enp3s0 and lo |
| 03:28.42 | sponix | derpadmin: ip addr |
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| 03:29.02 | derpadmin | so you have 3 interfaces? |
| 03:29.09 | violentE | yes |
| 03:29.21 | derpadmin | which one do you want to use? |
| 03:29.40 | derpadmin | sponix : be my guess to type 3 extra letters |
| 03:29.46 | derpadmin | :) |
| 03:29.48 | violentE | but if should be noted that technically only in the network manager there are 4 |
| 03:30.07 | violentE | *it |
| 03:31.11 | derpadmin | which is the one you want to use? |
| 03:31.35 | derpadmin | (3 interfaces is awesome) |
| 03:32.13 | violentE | well enp3s0 is the one in use and the one I installed on so lets just go with that |
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| 03:32.25 | violentE | but using that one means I can't ping anything |
| 03:32.40 | violentE | not even my router |
| 03:32.41 | derpadmin | not even 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 03:32.47 | violentE | not even 8.8.8.8 |
| 03:33.02 | derpadmin | is ip addr show the interface as UP? |
| 03:33.20 | violentE | yes |
| 03:33.41 | derpadmin | okay, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:33.41 | karlpinc | And the other interfaces are down? |
| 03:33.46 | derpadmin | add : |
| 03:34.02 | derpadmin | auto enp3s0 |
| 03:34.10 | derpadmin | allow-hotplug enp3s0 |
| 03:34.10 | violentE | lol no all are up |
| 03:34.36 | derpadmin | you have a cable in each? |
| 03:35.14 | violentE | https://termin.com/39v7 this is what it /etc/network/interfaces was |
| 03:35.20 | karlpinc | Well, if your default route is through an interface that is not, ultimately, connected to the net your pings won't go anywhere. |
| 03:35.26 | violentE | no only one cable in the one |
| 03:36.31 | derpadmin | iface enp3s0 inet dhcp |
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| 03:36.35 | violentE | but even when I stop and then start network-manager it does this. I'd think they'd start in a - DOWN - state |
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| 03:37.02 | derpadmin | systemctl restart networking.service |
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| 03:37.51 | derpadmin | cant see your post at https://termin.com/39v7 (+ https cert is invalid) |
| 03:38.03 | violentE | "Job for networking.service failed because the control process exited with error code" |
| 03:38.29 | sponix | derpadmin: hmm, well pretty sure I found that from the "man ip" ... And it does work |
| 03:38.49 | violentE | oh I can use bpaste was just using that cos jim said to use it |
| 03:38.49 | sponix | derpadmin: after typing ifconfig -a a half dozen times lol |
| 03:38.50 | derpadmin | you are right sponix |
| 03:38.57 | derpadmin | I am just lazy |
| 03:39.12 | derpadmin | ip a works |
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| 03:40.26 | violentE | oh right, forgot I don't have a connection anymore scratch pasting logs |
| 03:40.44 | violentE | but the point is that thats what I have derpadmin |
| 03:40.57 | violentE | iface enp3s0 inet dhcp - bit |
| 03:41.00 | derpadmin | and what "arp -a gives you?" |
| 03:41.12 | derpadmin | and what "arp -a" gives you? |
| 03:41.39 | derpadmin | do you have the mac address and the ip of the router in there? |
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| 03:42.32 | violentE | ip yes, mac address no |
| 03:42.59 | derpadmin | should give you something like this : |
| 03:42.59 | derpadmin | root@homebase:~# arp -a |
| 03:43.00 | derpadmin | ? (10.10.10.1) at 00:0d:b9:53:c8:1a [ether] on enp2s0 |
| 03:43.16 | violentE | oh |
| 03:43.26 | violentE | I have <incomplete> where the mac address should be |
| 03:43.42 | derpadmin | ok, so the problem is below the layer 3 |
| 03:43.47 | derpadmin | it is now layer2 |
| 03:43.57 | violentE | erp wait a sec |
| 03:44.23 | violentE | lol nevermind |
| 03:44.43 | derpadmin | ok, let's start with the basics |
| 03:44.47 | derpadmin | is the cable working |
| 03:44.50 | violentE | I had stopped network-manager but apparently that doesn't matter |
| 03:45.04 | derpadmin | does the router is a dhcp server? |
| 03:45.20 | derpadmin | is the router a dhcp server? |
| 03:45.43 | derpadmin | you don't need network-manager |
| 03:45.53 | derpadmin | did you restarted networking service? |
| 03:46.19 | derpadmin | and do you have : |
| 03:46.20 | derpadmin | auto enp3s0 |
| 03:46.22 | violentE | cable works |
| 03:46.28 | derpadmin | allow-hotplug enp3s0 |
| 03:46.30 | derpadmin | and |
| 03:46.34 | violentE | router is not dhcp server |
| 03:46.40 | derpadmin | iface enp3s0 inet dhcp |
| 03:46.48 | violentE | I can't restart network.service |
| 03:46.48 | derpadmin | router is not a dhcp server? |
| 03:47.00 | derpadmin | did you set an ip manually? |
| 03:47.27 | violentE | oh guess I don't know what dhcp server is |
| 03:47.28 | derpadmin | where you root when you tried to restart network.service |
| 03:47.28 | violentE | no |
| 03:47.34 | violentE | yes |
| 03:47.47 | derpadmin | dhcp is the one that give you an ip |
| 03:48.01 | derpadmin | if you get ip automatically, router is a dhcp server |
| 03:48.17 | violentE | I think I was just trying to say that in the way of dhcp I didn't set anything up particularly |
| 03:48.25 | violentE | ok |
| 03:48.49 | derpadmin | it is pretty standard |
| 03:49.19 | derpadmin | does systemctl status network.service give a hing |
| 03:49.25 | derpadmin | hint* |
| 03:49.43 | derpadmin | usually journalctl and another command to inspect the logs |
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| 03:50.00 | violentE | <status> |
| 03:50.11 | violentE | networking.service - Raise netwrok interfaces |
| 03:50.15 | violentE | Loade ... |
| 03:50.28 | violentE | Active: failed (result: exit code) |
| 03:50.45 | violentE | Process: 32595 |
| 03:51.22 | violentE | .. than a configuration isues please read the section on submitting buts on either out web apage at ... |
| 03:51.28 | violentE | exiting |
| 03:51.45 | violentE | netwroking.servic: Main process exit code-exited, status=1/FAILURE |
| 03:51.55 | violentE | Faile to start Raise netwrok interfaces |
| 03:51.58 | violentE | </status> |
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| 03:52.16 | derpadmin | can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin |
| 03:52.23 | derpadmin | seems to be a config issue |
| 03:52.34 | violentE | I'm affraid I can no longer make a new past |
| 03:52.36 | violentE | *pate |
| 03:52.39 | violentE | **paste |
| 03:53.16 | violentE | if you want to dare look use http then whats on the termbin is current |
| 03:53.25 | derpadmin | ok... fair... sure |
| 03:53.48 | derpadmin | FEHLER 404 - Nicht gefunden! |
| 03:54.21 | violentE | I don't speak ^^ that but I take it 404'd |
| 03:54.50 | derpadmin | it is |
| 03:54.57 | violentE | fuck let me type it |
| 03:55.02 | derpadmin | ok |
| 03:55.04 | derpadmin | sorry |
| 03:55.31 | violentE | </etc/network/interfaces> |
| 03:55.44 | violentE | source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* |
| 03:55.49 | violentE | auto lo |
| 03:55.54 | violentE | iface lo inet loopback |
| 03:56.06 | violentE | allow-hotplug enp3s0 |
| 03:56.08 | Kobaz | trying to (xorg) startx -- :2 for a second session... and getting (EE) parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied) |
| 03:56.15 | violentE | iface enp3s0 inet dhcp |
| 03:56.26 | violentE | </etc/network/interfaces> |
| 03:56.33 | Kobaz | Xwrapper has allowed_users=anybody |
| 03:56.34 | derpadmin | auto enp3s0 is missing |
| 03:56.45 | violentE | oh |
| 03:56.55 | violentE | is that just a line by its self? |
| 03:56.56 | derpadmin | on top of allow-hotplug enp3s0 |
| 03:57.01 | derpadmin | yes |
| 03:57.01 | violentE | before allow-hotplug |
| 03:57.03 | violentE | oh |
| 03:57.06 | derpadmin | on it's own line |
| 03:57.12 | derpadmin | then |
| 03:57.21 | derpadmin | sudo systemctl restart networking.service |
| 03:58.14 | violentE | still nado :/ |
| 03:58.35 | derpadmin | ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 03:58.39 | derpadmin | arp -an |
| 03:58.47 | violentE | nope |
| 03:58.59 | derpadmin | did restart networking.service spitted an error? |
| 03:59.35 | violentE | same as last - failed cos control process exited with error code |
| 03:59.43 | violentE | and arp -a is still the same |
| 03:59.43 | derpadmin | can you stop network-manager |
| 04:00.00 | derpadmin | and try to restart networking.service again |
| 04:00.06 | violentE | yup |
| 04:01.03 | violentE | oh |
| 04:01.15 | violentE | I was able to stop networking.service now |
| 04:01.22 | derpadmin | good |
| 04:01.25 | derpadmin | start it |
| 04:01.34 | derpadmin | ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 04:01.36 | violentE | and now I have an error |
| 04:01.36 | derpadmin | arp -an |
| 04:01.40 | derpadmin | ffuu |
| 04:01.51 | derpadmin | any files in /etc/network/interfaces.d/ ? |
| 04:02.17 | violentE | setup |
| 04:02.25 | derpadmin | delete it |
| 04:02.36 | derpadmin | and try to restart networking.service |
| 04:02.41 | derpadmin | (or move it) |
| 04:02.47 | violentE | noice |
| 04:02.53 | violentE | it started |
| 04:02.56 | derpadmin | ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 04:03.01 | violentE | no ping though |
| 04:03.05 | derpadmin | arp -an |
| 04:03.11 | violentE | still destination unreachable |
| 04:03.37 | violentE | arp -a is still the same |
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| 04:03.52 | derpadmin | ip a |
| 04:04.09 | derpadmin | shows enp3s0 UP and the rest down?< |
| 04:04.16 | violentE | no all are up |
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| 04:04.31 | derpadmin | can you : |
| 04:04.56 | derpadmin | dhclient -i enp3s0 |
| 04:05.04 | derpadmin | to try to get an ip... |
| 04:06.39 | derpadmin | is the cable really in enp3s0 ??? |
| 04:06.41 | derpadmin | :P |
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| 04:08.15 | violentE | fuuuuu |
| 04:08.29 | violentE | your not gonna like this |
| 04:08.37 | derpadmin | hahahaha |
| 04:08.41 | derpadmin | I might, try me |
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| 04:08.49 | violentE | I took the cable out to make sure that it worked, and forgot to plug it back it |
| 04:08.51 | violentE | *in |
| 04:08.57 | derpadmin | hahahaha |
| 04:09.01 | violentE | um but it still doesn't work |
| 04:09.10 | Kobaz | sooooo, trying to (xorg) startx -- :2 for a second session... and getting (EE) parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied) |
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| 04:09.25 | derpadmin | did you tried it to every ethernet ports? |
| 04:09.44 | derpadmin | and restart networking.service between each attempt? |
| 04:09.48 | derpadmin | and ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 04:10.10 | violentE | yes we can switch to a diff one and have half the problems but its skerting around the issue you'll see one sec |
| 04:10.35 | derpadmin | just to make sure we have the right port... |
| 04:11.30 | derpadmin | violentE : we configured exactly one interface |
| 04:11.55 | derpadmin | if it works in another port, it means we were not plugged into enp3s0 |
| 04:11.59 | violentE | yeah and so now when we switch that stuff in interfaces will be wrong |
| 04:12.21 | derpadmin | if we have the right port, yes |
| 04:12.27 | derpadmin | dont change the config |
| 04:12.32 | violentE | ok |
| 04:12.36 | derpadmin | just try it in every port |
| 04:12.45 | violentE | ok I restarted networking.service |
| 04:13.14 | derpadmin | no joy? |
| 04:13.23 | violentE | now I have in ip a: all are up but two have inet.. stuff |
| 04:13.38 | violentE | and I can ping |
| 04:13.38 | derpadmin | aahh |
| 04:13.47 | violentE | yeah idk I really think I fucked meh shit |
| 04:13.50 | derpadmin | enp3s0 have an ip ? |
| 04:13.57 | violentE | worried your goin to tell me to reinstall |
| 04:13.58 | derpadmin | do you have a bridge interface??? |
| 04:14.02 | derpadmin | br0 |
| 04:14.08 | derpadmin | or something similar |
| 04:14.09 | violentE | yes it does |
| 04:14.14 | derpadmin | aahh |
| 04:14.16 | derpadmin | why |
| 04:14.20 | violentE | wait what |
| 04:14.31 | violentE | I don't have br0 |
| 04:14.35 | derpadmin | ok |
| 04:14.50 | derpadmin | so 2 interfaces have an ip now? |
| 04:14.56 | violentE | yes |
| 04:14.58 | derpadmin | with a single cable plugged in??? |
| 04:15.03 | violentE | yes |
| 04:15.07 | derpadmin | same ip? |
| 04:15.21 | violentE | no |
| 04:15.36 | derpadmin | same subnet? eg : 192.168.1.x |
| 04:15.49 | violentE | one is something I recognize 192... etc and the other which is on enp3s0 is 169 and is nothing I have |
| 04:15.49 | derpadmin | where x can be 1 to 254 |
| 04:15.56 | derpadmin | ah |
| 04:16.03 | derpadmin | 169 is an apipa address |
| 04:16.13 | derpadmin | an address he put when he cannot get an address |
| 04:16.18 | derpadmin | autoconf |
| 04:16.22 | derpadmin | of something like that |
| 04:16.27 | whislock | 169.254.0.0/16 |
| 04:16.34 | violentE | oh |
| 04:16.35 | whislock | APIPA. Automatic Private Internet Protocol Address. |
| 04:16.37 | derpadmin | yup, thanks ehislock |
| 04:16.41 | derpadmin | yup, thanks whislock |
| 04:16.54 | derpadmin | so... <violentE> |
| 04:17.13 | derpadmin | the port where you are plugged is in fact... enp3s0 |
| 04:17.24 | derpadmin | LABLE IT |
| 04:17.29 | derpadmin | LABEL IT |
| 04:17.30 | derpadmin | :P |
| 04:17.31 | derpadmin | lol |
| 04:17.34 | violentE | lol but that doesn't make sense |
| 04:17.42 | violentE | ok on my motherboard |
| 04:17.43 | derpadmin | you got an ip... |
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| 04:17.51 | derpadmin | it is the only cable... |
| 04:18.07 | derpadmin | it is the only explanation I see |
| 04:18.10 | violentE | I have two etherport next to each other - these belong to a card I have in there |
| 04:18.23 | violentE | then theres the one directly connected to the mother board |
| 04:18.40 | violentE | It only makes sense that enp3s0 is the motherboard one |
| 04:19.12 | violentE | because enp2s0f0/1 are the same likeness |
| 04:19.31 | violentE | idk I don't really know a lot about this but thats what my thinking is |
| 04:19.54 | derpadmin | I would agree with you |
| 04:20.37 | violentE | but the one that is in use rn is the one on the of the two on the card |
| 04:20.42 | derpadmin | enp2s0f0 enp2s0f1 enp3s0 |
| 04:20.46 | derpadmin | wait |
| 04:20.51 | derpadmin | I may know |
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| 04:22.27 | derpadmin | is the mac address of enp3s0 hardcoded here : /etc/udev/rules.d/70-local-persistent-net.rules |
| 04:23.42 | derpadmin | or any interfaces for that matter |
| 04:25.05 | violentE | eh I don't have that file |
| 04:25.10 | derpadmin | ok, good |
| 04:26.05 | derpadmin | does ls -la /sys/class/net |
| 04:26.46 | violentE | yes that are 4 interfaces |
| 04:26.57 | violentE | all links |
| 04:27.13 | derpadmin | gives pci numbers (000:00/000:00:XX.X..........) similar for your 2 enp2s0f interfaces? |
| 04:27.26 | derpadmin | this is the vendor number |
| 04:27.44 | derpadmin | enp2s0f should have similar verdor |
| 04:27.51 | derpadmin | and enp3s0 a different one |
| 04:28.10 | violentE | yes the two are the same |
| 04:28.18 | violentE | enp3 is different |
| 04:28.23 | derpadmin | ok |
| 04:28.25 | violentE | well the two are EXACTLY the same |
| 04:28.31 | derpadmin | yup |
| 04:29.06 | derpadmin | there is only one cable plugged in the ethernet port of the motherboard now right? |
| 04:29.06 | violentE | of by 00000/000000/000000/2:00.x |
| 04:30.08 | violentE | there is only cable plugged in and that one is plugged into a card on the motherboard yes |
| 04:30.28 | derpadmin | on the card, yes sorry |
| 04:30.53 | derpadmin | which interface have a 192.x.x.x ip ? |
| 04:31.03 | derpadmin | ip a |
| 04:31.14 | violentE | enp2s0f1 |
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| 04:32.09 | derpadmin | ok... if network manager is off... and only enp3s0 is defined.... who the fuck enp2s0f1 got an ip |
| 04:32.35 | violentE | oh network-manager is no long off |
| 04:33.43 | derpadmin | ah |
| 04:33.52 | derpadmin | stop it |
| 04:33.54 | derpadmin | and also |
| 04:34.03 | derpadmin | systemctl stop systemd-networkd.service |
| 04:34.03 | violentE | done |
| 04:34.20 | violentE | and done |
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| 04:34.28 | derpadmin | and restart networking.service |
| 04:35.00 | derpadmin | do you still have a 192.x.x.x ip on enp2s0f1? |
| 04:35.28 | violentE | still working on starting it :o |
| 04:35.43 | violentE | ok |
| 04:35.58 | violentE | yes and now enp3s0 doesn't have an ip |
| 04:36.07 | derpadmin | good |
| 04:36.19 | derpadmin | plug the cable back to the motherboard port |
| 04:36.27 | derpadmin | and restart networking.service |
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| 04:36.48 | derpadmin | ip a |
| 04:36.52 | derpadmin | ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 04:36.54 | derpadmin | arp -an |
| 04:37.41 | violentE | ip a: both enp2sf1 and enp3s0 have ips |
| 04:37.53 | violentE | can ping thought |
| 04:37.57 | derpadmin | which one have the 192 ip ? |
| 04:38.11 | violentE | and I have stuff |
| 04:38.13 | violentE | mmm wait |
| 04:38.29 | violentE | I have mac for one of them |
| 04:38.35 | derpadmin | yes |
| 04:38.36 | violentE | for arp -a that is |
| 04:38.39 | derpadmin | your router |
| 04:38.44 | derpadmin | good |
| 04:38.45 | violentE | ok |
| 04:38.57 | pie3 | is it possible to send email to someone without using PGP key |
| 04:38.59 | derpadmin | I think we are here |
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| 04:39.26 | violentE | AND I can ping google.com |
| 04:39.30 | derpadmin | pie3 : eeerr yes... I think you may want to rephrase that |
| 04:39.43 | derpadmin | violentE : YES WE CAN! |
| 04:39.53 | violentE | lol but |
| 04:39.55 | violentE | but |
| 04:39.57 | derpadmin | can you paste me your ip a now |
| 04:40.01 | derpadmin | on pastebin |
| 04:40.04 | violentE | ya |
| 04:41.14 | derpadmin | Penix is the mix of a phoenix and a penis |
| 04:41.41 | derpadmin | hideous creature |
| 04:41.57 | violentE | I pmd it to you so it wont be on the record foreva |
| 04:42.03 | derpadmin | ok |
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| 05:12.27 | DJDan | can you go from debian 8.5 direct to buster 10 without going to 9 first? |
| 05:13.27 | dondelelcaro | DJDan: better to go to 9 first |
| 05:13.29 | dvs | nope |
| 05:13.29 | DJDan | i mean from debian 9.5 to buster |
| 05:13.43 | dvs | still nope |
| 05:14.31 | DJDan | why cant u go debian 9.5 to buster 10 |
| 05:14.34 | DJDan | shouldnt that work |
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| 05:15.07 | dvs | DJDan, the release notes recommends upgrading to the latest 9 before upgrading to 10 |
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| 05:15.53 | DJDan | yeah so if im on 9.5 i just do apt-get update then apt-dist upgrade ? |
| 05:16.21 | dvs | DJDan, yes and then change your sources to 10 |
| 05:16.38 | dvs | not before |
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| 05:25.53 | DJDan | dvs: what do you mean, when do i change the sources apt-get update then change then apt-dist |
| 05:26.57 | dvs | DJDan, you have to do an apt update and apt dist-upgrad BEFORE you change the sources too. |
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| 05:27.54 | DJDan | dvs: oh so apt-get update, apt-get upgrade then change sources then apt-fullupgrade. got it.... |
| 05:28.03 | hk239 | hello, is it possible to somehow organize/filter fonts so that fewer would appear in the dropmenus? For an example, while it might be nice to have certain fonts so that they can be rendered on websites, it would be nice if they wouldn't appear in the font list |
| 05:28.28 | dvs | DJDan, both an upgrade and then dist-upgrader after the source change. |
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| 05:28.57 | hk239 | since it's kind of tedious to filter through a bunch of non-latin scripts when looking for an aesthetic choice of latin script |
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| 05:29.04 | DJDan | dvs: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, change sources, apt-upgrade, apt-fullupgrade |
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| 05:29.15 | dvs | yes |
| 05:29.33 | dvs | oh, you have to do an update after the source change |
| 05:29.43 | DJDan | does upgrading keep everything thats running or installed |
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| 05:30.02 | DJDan | apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, change sources, apt-get update, apt-upgrade, apt-fullupgrade |
| 05:30.28 | dvs | DJDan, it will stop individual packages when they are upgraded. |
| 05:31.11 | DJDan | but it will still keep all files, then restart apache or whatever else |
| 05:31.23 | DJDan | that was previously loaded |
| 05:31.55 | dvs | DJDan, yes but it will ask you if it should replace each config file. Just say no when that prompt comes up. |
| 05:32.25 | hk239 | any ideas about this? |
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| 07:07.08 | DJDan | dvs: i upgraded the debian vps.but now i cant ssh via the ssh terinal command only there console |
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| 07:07.56 | DJDan | only works through there control panel qemu program not via ssh directly |
| 07:09.25 | DJDan | dvs: did upgrading loose the ssh server service or something |
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| 07:48.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys ya here |
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| 08:03.09 | annadane | Eryn_1983_FL, just try asking your question and if anyone's awake maybe they'll answer |
| 08:03.12 | annadane | or try a mailing list |
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| 08:36.46 | ratrace | annadane: I guess that was the question :) |
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| 08:54.23 | Stein | Are you guys using weechat? lol |
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| 09:10.47 | ratrace | No. lol |
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| 10:14.09 | GWM | Hello, I got an error with a Debian machine becoming unavailable/hung and requiring a hard reboot, /var/log/system only shows "^@^@^@" repeating forever, where should I look for more information? |
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| 10:16.56 | ratrace | GWM: sounds like filesystem corruption |
| 10:17.27 | GWM | ratrace, base fs is on raid1 ext4 and looks good, zfs reports no errors |
| 10:18.06 | ratrace | GWM: wait, how are zfs and raid1 ext4 related then here |
| 10:18.25 | GWM | zfs is for VM storage on the box |
| 10:18.33 | ratrace | and more importantly, which of those is storing /var/log/syslog |
| 10:18.37 | GWM | and / is on raid1 ssd |
| 10:19.03 | GWM | I mean, I guess I could have some silent ext4 corruption? |
| 10:19.15 | ratrace | of course. unlike zfs, ext4 wouldn't be aware of it |
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| 10:20.22 | GWM | Anymore ways I could find out what's going on? |
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| 10:20.51 | ratrace | you could try e2fsck with -c |
| 10:21.22 | GWM | I can't do that while the system is live right? |
| 10:21.53 | GWM | has to be done from tmpfs? |
| 10:22.18 | ratrace | funnily, I rebooted my debian workstation for 10.2 update yesterday, and I had at least one file corrupt like that. ext4 on ssd. migrating that setup to a hdd zfs mirror now |
| 10:22.33 | ratrace | GWM: no I think you'll need a rescue/live env to do that for the rootfs |
| 10:23.02 | GWM | I think I'm going to migrate the rootfs to ZFS |
| 10:23.23 | ratrace | yeah. that's what I'm doing right now |
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| 10:24.11 | ratrace | wanted to do it earlier, get me a nice pair of 1TB SSDs for that mirror, but this incident forced me to do it sooner, and I'll use a pair of HDDs temporarily until I get some SSDs |
| 10:24.42 | GWM | the fans turn off the computer while it gets into this hung state though |
| 10:24.51 | GWM | so I'm not 100% sure it's disk corruption causing it |
| 10:25.02 | GWM | but that there may be some as a side effect |
| 10:25.21 | ratrace | true it could be the motherboard or RAM, but I'd start checking the disks first as those are usually most likely to fail |
| 10:26.30 | ratrace | GWM: btw since that's raid1, is it hardware or mdadm raid? if mdadm, any hints of problems in dmesg? |
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| 10:28.17 | GWM | ratrace, hw |
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| 10:33.35 | ratrace | GWM: then that's another possible cause of corruption |
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| 10:41.17 | ratrace | Can someone help me understand this warning? It's... mind boggling. It warns there may not be cryptsetup bins in initramfs, and then suggests UN-installing cryptsetup-initramfs (which contain the things it warns may not be present)...... WTH..... meanwhile of course all the tools are present and working... |
| 10:41.21 | ratrace | https://bpaste.net/show/DP7T2 |
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| 10:44.36 | ratrace | It's basically telling me: "WARNING: your computer may work just fine without some the tools you've installed, if that's on purpse then uninstall them!" ehhhh? |
| 10:44.51 | JPT | No, that's not what it's telling. |
| 10:45.08 | ratrace | then what is it telling me? |
| 10:45.11 | JPT | It's telling you that seom crypto components may NOT be present in your initramfs. |
| 10:45.27 | JPT | So if you NEED these components, you want to fix your configuration |
| 10:45.35 | ratrace | JPT: doesn't say "some" -- that's why it's confusing |
| 10:45.41 | JPT | If you do NOT need these components, THEN you may uninstall that package it mentioned. |
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| 10:46.01 | ratrace | JPT: no, read again, it says if that's on purpose, I may want to UNINSTALL (UN-install) the package that brings those very tools in |
| 10:46.25 | ratrace | the warning is total mindfuq |
| 10:46.28 | JPT | Yes, because if you do not include cryptsetup in your initramfs, you might aswell uninstall the cryptsetup hook package |
| 10:47.07 | ratrace | JPT: include how tho? they ARE included. crypttab is correct, it works, initramfs contains the tools. and yet it warns me they're missing and if that's on purpose, I should uninstall the package that brings them... |
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| 10:47.52 | JPT | The initramfs you checked in that pastebin does not contain cryptsetup. |
| 10:48.29 | JPT | If your / is encrypted, you will need that in your initramfs to decrypt / during boot |
| 10:48.50 | ratrace | oh ffs wrong copypasta |
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| 10:51.00 | ratrace | oh I see what happened here... that script it stupid as hell... I changed the mapper name and now it doesn't see the _current_ rootfs mapper in crypttab and it therefore refuses to put cryptsetup into initramfs.... because it THINKS rootfs is not encrypted, while it is. |
| 10:51.27 | ratrace | if I revert the name in cryttab to the one _currently_ in use, there's no warning, cryptsetup is installed. mind blown. |
| 10:51.48 | JPT | Oh, i guess that explains everything then. :) |
| 10:53.22 | ratrace | that's very..... moronic of it. if I installed cryptsetup-initramfs and I have crypttab, then don't assume I don't want it in initramfs.... I don't even! |
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| 11:57.23 | jubo2 | why is there a user with my name logged in on tty? Is this to do with the supposed hosting provider providing a VNC? |
| 11:57.34 | jubo2 | ^ on a server |
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| 12:00.08 | ratrace | jubo2: ENOCONTEXT |
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| 12:48.52 | goody | hi |
| 12:48.56 | goody | anyone pm |
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| 12:57.19 | martin__ | Is someone here who is involved with maintaining the neomutt package? Even without changing anything in the sid version it fails building: https://paste.debian.net/1117688/ |
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| 12:58.05 | martin__ | Looks the date checking is wrong as it expects the hour to be 11 or 12 but here in GMT+1 it is 13:57 now. |
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| 13:00.37 | martin__ | oh, I see there is #debian-next |
| 13:00.53 | martin__ | As I'm talking about a sid package I better ask there I guess. |
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| 13:01.12 | martin__ | Can someone invite me there? |
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| 13:03.09 | ksk | !next |
| 13:03.09 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 13:03.13 | ksk | !debian-next |
| 13:03.14 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:03.21 | ksk | martin__: its not on this network, but over on OFTC ;) |
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| 13:04.12 | ksk | not thats a bad Idea to post/ask in irc, but if there is a bug in sid you could also just report it I suppose |
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| 13:04.52 | martin__ | ksk, thx :) |
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| 13:05.36 | martin__ | I don't think it is a bug as the package obviously builds as it is available in sid. But it doesn't build locally for me. |
| 13:06.25 | ksk | martin__: mhhm, maybe sharing the steps you did so far and the error would help, but lets take it to #debian-next :) |
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| 13:08.54 | martin__ | Still trying to figure out how to join a channel on a different server. ^^ I forgot everything about IRC as I haven't used it in 15+ years. :D |
| 13:09.50 | martin__ | Ah, found out. |
| 13:10.23 | martin__ | `Closing Link: p5090FD60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (Sorry, server is full - try later)` ;-( |
| 13:10.24 | ksk | I dont see a "martin__" over there.. ;) |
| 13:10.34 | ksk | uh, mhmkay!? |
| 13:10.41 | martin__ | I'm not allowed to connect as the server is full |
| 13:10.59 | ksk | you are trying something like "/server irc.oftc.net"? |
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| 13:11.34 | martin__ | ksk, just picked OFTC in HexChats Server list and hit "connect" button |
| 13:11.47 | ksk | k, that should do the trick, maybe try again later then. |
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| 13:12.07 | martin__ | Or I try via one of the xmpp2irc bridges... |
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| 13:13.06 | eugen | Hello - did anything change in the preseed configuration arround partman using partman-auto/expert_recipe ? |
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| 13:13.36 | ksk | eugen: I am not too familiar with preseed, but not sure if anyone could answer such a question.. ;) |
| 13:13.39 | eugen | (sorry - with buster). My stretch preseed does not work in the way that 2 additional questions are display |
| 13:13.59 | ksk | ah, so you are asking if anything changed between stretch and buster, kk. |
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| 13:14.24 | ksk | eugen: might that just be related to parman having (two) new options? |
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| 13:14.48 | eugen | I checked the docs and changelogs, but did not find anything |
| 13:15.19 | ksk | martin__: I will ask OFTC staff if they know about the "server full" message, Ill hit you up if I get any reply. |
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| 13:16.28 | martin__ | thx |
| 13:16.45 | martin__ | Maybe it's also me holding HexChat wrong. ^^ |
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| 13:17.29 | eugen | ksk the pitty is, anything else just works fine, if i press enter 2 times the whole provisioning works just fibe |
| 13:17.32 | eugen | *fine |
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| 13:17.55 | ksk | eugen: sorry, apart from "you missed an option" I have no Idea. (as I said I am not into pressed.) |
| 13:18.00 | ksk | maybe just wait a little bit in here |
| 13:18.11 | ksk | it tends to be more silent on weekends ;) |
| 13:18.24 | StyXman | I'm completely new to ACLs and I'm baffled by this: https://paste.debian.net/1117690/ |
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| 13:19.32 | ksk | StyXman: would you mind explaining that? :) |
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| 13:20.49 | StyXman | Iḿ trying to give www-data rw perms on that dir with acls and the one I thought was enough is not |
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| 13:21.11 | ksk | ah. |
| 13:21.16 | ksk | you need X on a dir, to change into it. |
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| 13:21.48 | ksk | StyXman: and furthermore, judging from that, you might not need ACLs for that, at all ;) |
| 13:22.11 | StyXman | ksk: it's a backup dir, so I don't the usual perms to change |
| 13:22.15 | ksk | I think there is nothing bad with ACLs in general, they have a purpose, but most people just dont get they could do many things with basic unix permissions |
| 13:22.20 | StyXman | just sidestep them with acls |
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| 13:23.25 | StyXman | ksk: yeah, it was the x |
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| 13:23.47 | StyXman | I was sure that r was enough for traversing dirs,.. |
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| 13:25.30 | ksk | no, sir. |
| 13:25.50 | ksk | in fact, you can traverse/enter it by having +x |
| 13:26.04 | ksk | but not be able to read anything (ls) if you only have x and not r |
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| 13:33.33 | StyXman | ah, it was the other way around |
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| 15:12.06 | eugen | Trying to migrate my vagrant debian-9 build to debian-10. Somehow it seems the preseeding does not longer work in 2 aspects of partman - i get 2 of those questions during the installtion: https://ibb.co/cNJ3zkq .. other then that, it works automatically and flawlessly. This is my preseed file |
| 15:12.06 | eugen | https://github.com/EugenMayer/packer-vagrant/blob/master/resources/http/debian10/preseed.cfg wotj those few in addition https://github.com/EugenMayer/packer-vagrant/blob/master/debian/debian10.1.json#L40 (line 40-53 ). I checked the docs and whatever i could find, but i did not find anything special or wrong in my setup. Anybody has a hint? |
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| 15:13.02 | eugen | i looked at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/example-preseed.txt and https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer/blob/master/doc/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt and https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/apbs04.en.html but was not successful yet, hence the question |
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| 15:14.15 | kristian_on_linu | hi, so this is a raspbian/raspberry pi question, but I hope that's okay |
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| 15:16.16 | dvs | !raspbian |
| 15:16.16 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian (or #raspberrypi) on irc.freenode.net for support. https://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 15:17.10 | Aram | hi. I am using debootstrap to create sysroots for cross-gcc. however, they are single arch. is it possible to use debootstrap to create a multiarch root? |
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| 15:23.46 | Arlington | I think it happens whenever DHCP lease is renewed. |
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| 16:32.18 | FightingFalcon | how could i make it so that root@debian-4gb-nbg1-1:~# root here is in red color? |
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| 16:35.30 | EdePopede | FightingFalcon, you can use ANSI sequences: https://misc.flogisoft.com/bash/tip_colors_and_formatting |
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| 16:38.18 | FightingFalcon | do i have to restart after changing .bashrc file? |
| 16:38.57 | n4dir | source .bashrc |
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| 16:39.03 | xdiff0rke | no, use 'source .bashrc' |
| 16:40.32 | FightingFalcon | wow |
| 16:40.34 | FightingFalcon | it worked :D |
| 16:40.36 | FightingFalcon | thanks |
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| 17:02.34 | Guest8794 | #HelloFriends |
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| 17:04.00 | Guest8794 | debian developers here? |
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| 17:05.38 | ksk | !ask |
| 17:05.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 17:06.20 | ksk | ehm, nevermind. |
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| 17:06.25 | LambdaComplex | hey, maybe that was the question! |
| 17:06.29 | LambdaComplex | hashtag optimism |
| 17:06.48 | LambdaComplex | and now i'm gonna shamelessly crosspost from ##linux |
| 17:06.58 | LambdaComplex | 12:02 <LambdaComplex> does isc-dhcp-client provide a way to ignore options provided by the dhcp server? i would _guess_ that providing no argument to supersede (e.g. `supersede domain-search;`) would work, but i can't find anything in the man pages confirming or denying that |
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| 17:10.08 | n_1-c_k | LambdaComplex, yes, you can remove them from dhclient.conf. |
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| 17:12.06 | LambdaComplex | n_1-c_k: you mean remove them from the request statement? |
| 17:12.15 | LambdaComplex | or do you mean use supersede like i said? |
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| 17:13.10 | n_1-c_k | LambdaComplex, I answered "a way to ignore options", which is don't ask for them in the conf file. Just delete them or comment out. |
| 17:13.55 | LambdaComplex | what about the case where the client doesn't request an option but the server provides it anyways? or is that something that should not occur? |
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| 17:15.23 | n_1-c_k | LambdaComplex, that's my situation, where I don't want my router's DNS. Removing it from the client's conf fixed that. |
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| 17:19.50 | LambdaComplex | alright, that did work. although i don't know if that actually resulted in the dhcp server not sending those options. i took a packet capture so i should have an answer to that shortly |
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| 17:24.05 | n_1-c_k | LambdaComplex, jolly good, let us know? |
| 17:24.06 | LambdaComplex | the dhcp server did not provide the options that i removed from the request |
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| 17:24.20 | n_1-c_k | righto |
| 17:24.45 | LambdaComplex | great, so now i'm wondering how the client behaves if it does receive stuff that it didn't ask for >:( |
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| 17:24.53 | LambdaComplex | maybe i'll look into that later |
| 17:24.55 | LambdaComplex | is lazy though |
| 17:25.01 | Delta706 | I am wanting to implement a sleep in C on debian and I do not want the sleep to be interrupted. Is it as simple as turning off signals during the sleep, or is it more complicated? |
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| 17:25.45 | LambdaComplex | i feel like that's less a debian question and more a linux question or perhaps a programming question |
| 17:27.06 | Delta706 | so I could go to #linux? |
| 17:27.24 | Ankman | or a C channel? |
| 17:27.39 | LambdaComplex | i was gonna say either ##linux or ##programming. or, yeah, a C channel |
| 17:27.47 | LambdaComplex | which would be ##C on freenode |
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| 17:27.51 | Delta706 | well sometimes things like POSIX are broken on certain OS's |
| 17:28.31 | Delta706 | so I am asking about debian deviations from posix |
| 17:28.31 | jaakkos | Delta706: what do you mean by being interrupted? You mean by OS scheduler? It is going to be more complicated. Linux is not a real-time OS. |
| 17:28.34 | LambdaComplex | i honestly don't know how much the debian maintainers customize the linux kernel for debian, but i doubt anything they do would affect the answer to your question |
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| 17:29.39 | Delta706 | I will try ##C |
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| 17:30.40 | LambdaComplex | "I do not want the sleep to be interrupted" |
| 17:30.43 | LambdaComplex | laughs in SIGKILL |
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| 17:38.24 | xormor | LambdaComplex, kill -1 %1 then kill %1 then kill -9 %1 |
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| 17:39.53 | xormor | LambdaComplex, I learned the %1 trick from the book Linux for Dummies, in the library. it is now an old book. it was from the time one might've had to run X with root privileges. a bad idea. like logging into IRC with root. only use root when necessary, otherwise a "normal" user. sudo should use the root password. I still wonder about the Synaptic integration. it asks my normal password in Modern Gnome the desktop (in X). |
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| 17:41.03 | lupine | if you've got a handy device, you can make things immune to sigkill |
| 17:41.20 | lupine | process state d is magic |
| 17:41.24 | xormor | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.34 | xormor | lupine, oh I could just program it to ignore it... |
| 17:41.52 | xormor | lupine, I know C and C++ and amd64 and x86 assembly. |
| 17:41.55 | lupine | well, that's kind of the point, you can't |
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| 17:44.06 | xormor | lupine, I had to use kill -9 two times. |
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| 17:44.41 | xormor | lupine, signal(SIGKILL, sigintHandler); |
| 17:44.58 | Habbie | no process can ignore -9 |
| 17:45.00 | xormor | lupine, there must be a way. it is device depenent. |
| 17:45.13 | xormor | Habbie, there must be a hardware way to do it. |
| 17:45.42 | Habbie | sure, there's also a kernel patch way to do it |
| 17:45.51 | Habbie | i did not realise it was that kind of conversation |
| 17:46.02 | Habbie | oh process state D |
| 17:46.13 | Habbie | you can kill -9 a hundred times and D won't budge |
| 17:46.19 | Habbie | so your second -9 did no more than the first |
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| 17:48.25 | xormor | Habbie, it was killed because it was running in the background. when it was stopped it was not killed, until I did a second SIGKILL (-9). |
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| 17:50.40 | xormor | lots of Swedes are of German origin, but I think Goths were a mixed lot. |
| 17:50.41 | B|ack0p | hi |
| 17:51.19 | xormor | many Finn-Swedes came from Germany to Scandinavia and ultimately Finland, that can arguably called a Nordic country as well, and Baltic-Scandinavian. |
| 17:51.46 | xormor | I think the Germans went to Denmark and South Sweden and sailed to South-West Finland and West Finland. |
| 17:52.19 | lupine | Well. I tried |
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| 17:52.55 | xormor | my ancestors might have lived within Finland for centuries, even millennia. no idea where they were before Christianization of Finland, even the Catholic era. There are church records from the Lutheran era of 1500's and tombstones from the 1700's and 1800's and 1900's and 2000's. |
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| 17:54.06 | xormor | one of my ancestors was Johan Johansson, and I think he may have been called Israel or maybe it was Klemetti Klemetinpoika and Israel Klemetinpoika, and Johan Johansson. From my mother's side. My father's side is a bit shady. more from the East regions of Finland. |
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| 17:54.46 | xormor | maybe my father is Ugrian and mother is Germanic/Scandinavian. my father has so dark hair he might even be an Aryan, since I and he have quite dark blue eyes and pale complexion. |
| 17:55.14 | xormor | my grandfather Esko looked like a Nazi in his glasses and suit for the gas station he owned. |
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| 17:55.45 | xormor | maybe there is a mixture of 2 populations when I and my father married and got children. we might as well be Uralic-Scandinavian. |
| 17:56.01 | xormor | my mother and my father married |
| 17:56.04 | xormor | Freudian slip |
| 17:56.30 | xormor | it would have been funny if I and my father had married. we would have been homosexuals and in an incest relationship, but would not be able to make children. |
| 17:56.45 | xormor | sometimes he came a bit too close, so my mother did. so I pushed them down the stairs. |
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| 17:59.30 | jubo2 | I have the package net-tools installed, but I have no arp cli command |
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| 17:59.39 | jubo2 | Whats gone wrong? |
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| 18:00.43 | xormor | lupine, this is the wrong channel. am I insane? maybe I should tell the nurse who gives me my meds in about 15 mins - 30 mins. |
| 18:00.52 | xormor | lupine, this is a bad slip. |
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| 18:02.58 | druid99 | Sup |
| 18:03.15 | jim | jubo2, which dist? |
| 18:03.30 | jim | oh, sorry... |
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| 18:03.47 | jim | , find bin/arp |
| 18:03.53 | judd | Search for bin/arp in buster/amd64: net-tools: usr/sbin/arp |
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| 18:04.12 | jubo2 | jim: Debian10 |
| 18:04.36 | jim | jubo2, so it's there, as a plain user you usually don't have /usr/sbin in your path |
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| 18:28.20 | karlpinc | !buster su |
| 18:28.20 | dpkg | In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To use the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for details. |
| 18:29.18 | absurdist | i need a mipsel porterbox |
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| 19:13.06 | gonzo11 | Hello, is there a tool to deal with version 5 .rar files? |
| 19:13.47 | gonzo11 | unrar seems to handle up to version 2 .rar files |
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| 19:15.50 | ratrace | gonzo11: there's two unrars -- free and non-free -- tried both? |
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| 22:22.30 | jim | can I search files for a partial file name (like mod_ftp*)? |
| 22:22.47 | sponix | what format should I use on my new 12TB drive ? Gonna be storing Movie Media on it mainly.. xfs, jfs, ext4, zfs ? |
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| 22:23.00 | jim | on judd that is |
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| 22:23.38 | Namarrgon | zfs requires out-of-tree modules and i don't know anyone who's still using jfs |
| 22:23.52 | ratrace | , find /usr/bin/pin* |
| 22:23.56 | judd | Search for /usr/bin/pin* in buster/amd64: [truncated] pinentry-qt4: usr/bin/pinentry-qt4; pinentry-curses: usr/bin/pinentry-curses; pinentry-fltk: usr/bin/pinentry-fltk; pinentry-x2go: usr/bin/pinentry-x2go; ctdb: usr/bin/ping_pong; plaso: usr/bin/pinfo.py; coreutils: usr/bin/pinky; pinentry-gnome3: usr/bin/pinentry-gnome3; pinfo: usr/bin/pinfo; pinot: usr/bin/pinot, usr/bin |
| 22:23.57 | judd | /pinot-dbus-daemon, usr/bin/pinot-index, usr/bin/pinot-label, usr/bin/pinot-prefs, usr/bin/pinot-search; pinentry-gtk2: usr/bin/pinentry-gtk-2; python3-gpiozero: usr/bin/pinout; kwalletcli: usr/bin/pinentry-kwallet; pinentry-tty: usr/bin/pinentry-tty; pinentry-qt: usr/bin/pinentry-qt |
| 22:24.03 | ratrace | jim: yeup. |
| 22:24.11 | sponix | Namarrgon: I use zfs for a raidz already... It is pretty simple |
| 22:24.26 | ratrace | zfs ftw |
| 22:24.40 | ratrace | sponix: if you're alraedy using it, why you ask then? |
| 22:25.49 | sponix | ratrace: well, I have it going on a 5 x 1TB raidz... But wasn't sure what would be best for a Media library on this new 12TB single drive |
| 22:26.02 | ratrace | sponix: ZFS of course |
| 22:26.13 | sponix | fair enough :) |
| 22:26.19 | ratrace | the larger the data stack, the better ZFS fits to it |
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| 22:28.17 | jim | ratrace, thanks |
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| 22:41.08 | lel | So i followed the steps here https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdSuspendSedation and whenever I go into suspend via systemctl suspend or lid switch it suspends, then instantly hibernates upon waking. is this something that has happened to anyone ever before? is this info super out of date? and does anyone have any ideas on how to fix it or to accomplish something similar? |
| 22:42.38 | lel | like when i open the lid to end the suspend or key mash even after less than five minutes it instantly hibernates |
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| 22:47.54 | tuxic | hello peeps |
| 22:48.08 | tuxic | I'm facing an issue with virt-manager & network bridging |
| 22:48.20 | tuxic | It doesn't want to detect my network bridge |
| 22:48.36 | tuxic | https://ibb.co/bbs6X6p ( ip a ) screenshot |
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| 22:56.33 | ob-sed | hi |
| 22:57.01 | ob-sed | is debian+kde good for a production django server ? 5 million users per month |
| 22:57.25 | wasamasa | kde? |
| 22:57.27 | ratrace | ob-sed: why would you put kde on a _django_ server for? |
| 22:57.47 | wasamasa | to give hackers a wide open backdoor :D |
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| 22:58.11 | ob-sed | ratrace: i like the user interface and i would develop the app inside django and sublime text in a VM on my home PC, and i would prefer the KDE for my developement box |
| 22:58.27 | ob-sed | the production server would probably have Xfce |
| 22:58.45 | ob-sed | wasamasa: what wide open backdoors specifically does KDE have ? |
| 22:59.00 | wasamasa | there's search engines that list X11/VNC ports without authentication |
| 22:59.03 | tuxic | graphical user interface = bigger attack surface |
| 22:59.06 | wasamasa | I wouldn't want you to land on such a list |
| 22:59.10 | ob-sed | yeah |
| 22:59.19 | ob-sed | I firewall of X11 port |
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| 22:59.27 | ratrace | ob-sed: there's no benefit from running a desktop on a web server |
| 22:59.30 | ob-sed | and i tell the server not to allow network logins |
| 22:59.40 | ob-sed | ratrace: ease of use |
| 22:59.47 | ratrace | ob-sed: what use? it's a server |
| 22:59.50 | ob-sed | editing stuff in sublime text |
| 22:59.53 | wasamasa | all that X11 is taking away precious space on the server |
| 22:59.59 | tuxic | if you are running your servers from your home network you probably should use virtual machines or containers |
| 23:00.09 | ratrace | ob-sed: why would you edit on the production server directly? nothing you said so far makes any sense |
| 23:00.13 | wasamasa | not to mention way more updates |
| 23:00.24 | ob-sed | tuxic: no the test machine is at home, the production server would be debian+xfce on amazon aws |
| 23:00.33 | ratrace | this is starting to sound like a joke |
| 23:00.44 | ob-sed | ratrace: minor bugfixing on a production server for example |
| 23:00.53 | ratrace | ob-sed: that'd be doing it wrong |
| 23:01.04 | ob-sed | why |
| 23:01.24 | ob-sed | what if i need to edit how much memory is allocated to scripts running on the server, minor bugfix, edit it in vi |
| 23:01.27 | ob-sed | or sublime |
| 23:01.32 | ob-sed | tho i admit, vi is fine |
| 23:01.39 | tuxic | don't use a GUI on AWS its a waste of resources ( money ) and its never advised to run a DE on for a server |
| 23:01.41 | ratrace | ob-sed: because your production environment should have minimum amount of software for the given task, and any "bug fixes" you do on your dev box, you test and deploy when you're sure they're ready |
| 23:01.49 | wasamasa | you edit it in a devel environment, test it, deploy it to production |
| 23:01.59 | wasamasa | if you're feeling fancy, deploy to staging, test some more, deploy to production |
| 23:02.16 | wasamasa | there's no reason to do coding on a server |
| 23:02.27 | ob-sed | well i did edit how much ram was allowed on a production server for scripts, no need for testing |
| 23:02.48 | wasamasa | it just invites more room for error and lack of reproducability |
| 23:02.53 | ob-sed | true |
| 23:02.59 | ratrace | ob-sed: ideally you should use something like ansible for config management and NOT edit config files in production |
| 23:03.03 | wasamasa | admins being lazy is how you get hacked |
| 23:03.07 | ob-sed | coding at home, deploy changes to a remote server, good idea |
| 23:03.20 | ratrace | deploy via git for instance |
| 23:03.26 | ob-sed | ansible is learning a whole new system i dont need yet same with git |
| 23:03.30 | ob-sed | i admit i dont know git |
| 23:03.47 | ob-sed | git for /etc ? too complicated for me atm |
| 23:03.51 | ratrace | well you know what, you came here asking for advice and you're getting it. the answer to your orig question is a resounding: NO. |
| 23:03.53 | wasamasa | deployment can be as simple as doing a mirror operation with rsync |
| 23:04.33 | ob-sed | My question then is is Debian a good fit for a production server on aws (no X) with django and 5 million users a month ? |
| 23:04.45 | ob-sed | its abit like an instagram clone the webapp |
| 23:04.51 | wasamasa | yes, plenty people use their debian/ubuntu machines and are fine |
| 23:04.53 | ratrace | ob-sed: definitely |
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| 23:05.08 | ob-sed | nice sounds good thanks for the advice ratrace and wasamasa |
| 23:05.09 | ratrace | all our servers are debian, for example |
| 23:05.16 | ob-sed | ratrace: what about with Xfce ? |
| 23:05.21 | ob-sed | ratrace: what do your servers do ? |
| 23:05.36 | ratrace | web application backend for mobile apps |
| 23:05.43 | ob-sed | nice |
| 23:06.04 | ob-sed | ratrace: I will be deploying similar, the webapp will server as the GUI inside a mobile app browser container |
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| 23:06.35 | ratrace | what do you mean |
| 23:07.31 | ob-sed | ratrace: I will write an app for android and iOS which will simply embed a web browser object, that web browser object will browse to my debian webapp server, the aws debian webapp server will serve a User Interface to the user on their mobile device |
| 23:08.10 | ratrace | ob-sed: I don't think google play or apple store are gonna allow that |
| 23:08.15 | ob-sed | mainly cos im not sure how to write a GUI for android + iOS that will update bits of data over HTTP to the webapp (im not familar with react.js and AJAX coding) for example |
| 23:08.20 | ob-sed | ratrace: why not? |
| 23:08.33 | wasamasa | you'll have to use their own webview |
| 23:08.46 | wasamasa | for security reasons they say |
| 23:08.46 | ob-sed | wasamasa: yeah thats what i'll do, use their own webview |
| 23:08.48 | ob-sed | all good |
| 23:08.50 | ratrace | ob-sed: because that means you can have whatever UI you want, change it any time with no review from them |
| 23:09.02 | ratrace | your app must be written according to their guidelines |
| 23:09.03 | ob-sed | oh i see what you mean ratrace |
| 23:09.03 | whislock | Yeah, that is not going to fly. |
| 23:09.24 | ratrace | you CAN however write a html5 interface and wrap it in one of those native launcher thingies |
| 23:09.30 | ratrace | phonegap or whatsitcalled |
| 23:09.45 | ob-sed | so what will i have to learn to write a GUI in say swift for iOS, that uses the aws debian webapp as the backend for storing the users photos for example |
| 23:09.52 | ratrace | you CAN have javascript powered UI and do API callbacks to your servers, but the UI must be consistent and predetermined |
| 23:09.57 | wasamasa | writing your own REST APIs |
| 23:10.22 | ob-sed | ratrace: yeah i guess i will have to learn how to make a javascript UI and do the API callbacks to the aws debian webapp backend |
| 23:10.23 | ratrace | ob-sed: no, like I said, you can have a HTML5+javascript app that's wrapped with "phonegap" as a standalone app |
| 23:10.29 | wasamasa | that's what everyone's doing these days |
| 23:10.32 | ob-sed | yep |
| 23:10.37 | ob-sed | thats what i need to learn how to do |
| 23:10.40 | ratrace | you don't need write in swift or java, you can have single codebase (html5+js) for both |
| 23:10.45 | ob-sed | nice |
| 23:10.48 | ob-sed | very good |
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| 23:11.26 | ob-sed | html5+js on the webserver would be easy to write a UI i already know how, i guess i will have to get used to POSTing alot of HTTP data, and learn AJAX |
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| 23:13.16 | ratrace | or use frameworks that do that low level stuff for you |
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| 23:13.37 | ratrace | though personally I'd agree, learning it bottom up is the best way to learn |
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| 23:19.49 | ob-sed | ratrace: so the frameworks, are any of them as easy to use as Visual Basics? e.g. drag and drop a user interface into place ? |
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| 23:19.57 | kord | hi all |
| 23:19.59 | ob-sed | I should probably check out Visual Studio and Xamarin |
| 23:20.09 | wasamasa | I'd hope these times are finally over |
| 23:20.16 | ratrace | ob-sed: no I don't think they are visual like that |
| 23:20.33 | wasamasa | yes, there's stuff for drag and drop designs, but it's aimed at designers creating mock-ups, not actual websites to run |
| 23:20.49 | abrotman | Are you asking if there's a Linux-ish GUI for coding .NET things? |
| 23:20.50 | wasamasa | doing anything useful with these is torture |
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| 23:21.25 | ob-sed | ah right |
| 23:21.35 | ob-sed | abrotman: yes |
| 23:21.38 | abrotman | There is a #debian-cli on irc.oftc.net |
| 23:21.41 | abrotman | or used to be .. |
| 23:21.44 | ob-sed | thanks abrotman |
| 23:22.09 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ob-sed about mono |
| 23:22.12 | abrotman | see some of those resources |
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| 23:22.30 | ob-sed | ah thanks yeah i think mono is what im after |
| 23:22.44 | ob-sed | <dpkg> abrotman wants you to know: [mono] infectious mononucleosis ("glandular fever", "kissing disease") |
| 23:22.46 | ob-sed | lol |
| 23:22.50 | ob-sed | not that mono tho ;-) |
| 23:23.00 | ratrace | har har har |
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| 23:32.44 | irvinghuhuh | Hi :) |
| 23:32.55 | ob-sed | Im choosing debian for my production server |
| 23:33.15 | ratrace | that's the ticket! |
| 23:34.33 | annadane | sigh. anyone know why pavucontrol won't detect a source, so that i can't switch it to my headphones? |
| 23:34.41 | annadane | it's a music stream playing in firefox |
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| 23:35.20 | irvinghuhuh | Just a quick question : I just installed Debian on my laptop I realized the touchpad is not enough sensitive, I have to apply a relative big pressure on the pad to make the cursor move or scrolling.. Do you have any idea how I can solve that ? |
| 23:36.23 | annadane | i did kill pulseaudio and start it again, i don't know what's wrong... |
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| 23:38.27 | annadane | oh it might be a problem of group membership |
| 23:38.31 | annadane | i probably need to logout/in |
| 23:38.48 | ob-sed | irvinghuhuh: post a dmesg and your message to the mailing list |
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| 23:39.16 | Kyros | irvinghuhuh: depending on the touchpad possibly either messing around with xinput or installing the synaptics xorg package |
| 23:39.48 | ob-sed | irvinghuhuh: try these links https://www.techrepublic.com/article/tweak-your-touchpad-to-taste-in-linux/ |
| 23:39.54 | ob-sed | https://askubuntu.com/questions/483707/14-04-touchpad-is-too-sensitive |
| 23:39.57 | ob-sed | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2382933 |
| 23:40.08 | ob-sed | irvinghuhuh: you can adjust the sensitivity of the touchpad with the first link |
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| 23:40.48 | ob-sed | depends what brand you have, hence the dmesg |
| 23:40.51 | Kyros | tbh xinput has never solved any problems for me |
| 23:40.57 | ob-sed | irvinghuhuh: could you pastebin a dmesg? |
| 23:41.13 | irvinghuhuh | Thanks for your answers :) |
| 23:41.26 | irvinghuhuh | Hm, how do I send you the command result ? |
| 23:41.43 | ratrace | !pastebin |
| 23:41.43 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 23:42.12 | irvinghuhuh | thanks |
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| 23:44.14 | irvinghuhuh | Here : https://paste.debian.net/1117783/ |
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| 23:47.43 | ob-sed | irvinghuhuh: you have this touchpad: input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input6 |
| 23:48.32 | ob-sed | irvinghuhuh: this is for a synaptics touch pad but might work on yours: https://superuser.com/questions/229839/reduce-laptop-touch-pad-sensitivity-in-ubuntu |
| 23:49.23 | Kyros | yeah, i think you want to use xinput for that one |
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| 23:49.39 | ob-sed | yeah xinput should work for a GlidePoint touchpad as well |
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| 23:51.10 | irvinghuhuh | Even after installing "xserver-xorg-input-libinput", the command result of "xinput list" is "command unknown" |
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| 23:55.29 | abrotman | did you install the xinput package? |
| 23:55.59 | Arkangel | Hello friends |
| 23:56.43 | irvinghuhuh | No, it works now thanks x) |
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