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| 00:02.22 | notsoever | advive for the yung i hard/heart sonn we wiil be older when gonna me it work....good choices good future |
| 00:04.05 | EdePopede | good timing. just came back to see the first dialog waiting for a decision |
| 00:04.39 | notsoever | king |
| 00:04.44 | notsoever | dont |
| 00:04.48 | whislock | Anything related to partitioning or filesystems? |
| 00:04.59 | EdePopede | oh, grub now |
| 00:05.10 | whislock | And your options are? |
| 00:05.15 | EdePopede | afie-amd64 shim-signed, what i could read |
| 00:05.32 | EdePopede | so. done. asking for reboot. |
| 00:05.38 | whislock | Go for it. |
| 00:05.42 | EdePopede | and that's the point of failure. |
| 00:06.16 | whislock | Data would help. ;) |
| 00:06.27 | EdePopede | yep. intel boot agent. media test failure. no os found. (Error 1962) |
| 00:06.40 | EdePopede | stuck in a loop now retrying to boot forever |
| 00:06.55 | whislock | There should be a key you can press to select how you want to boot. |
| 00:07.39 | EdePopede | at least it shows the HDD now in the selection |
| 00:07.53 | EdePopede | still strange, i'm used to see the stick with its 2 options |
| 00:08.16 | EdePopede | aaaaand.. back in the loop |
| 00:08.39 | EdePopede | booting the live system to see what's going on on that disk |
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| 00:09.48 | EdePopede | the efi screen on the 9live has a really bad background :) |
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| 00:11.59 | EdePopede | so, there's /EFI/debian with some files, mostly .efi |
| 00:12.48 | notsoever | freaked my eys |
| 00:13.00 | whislock | I wonder if your UEFI implementation doesn't look for the right things. |
| 00:13.01 | notsoever | on the time |
| 00:13.10 | whislock | Do me a favor. |
| 00:13.25 | notsoever | i do |
| 00:13.31 | whislock | Within your ESP, create a second directory: /EFI/BOOT |
| 00:13.33 | EdePopede | damn. can't find the pipe on the US keyboard D |
| 00:13.51 | EdePopede | ah gog it |
| 00:14.14 | notsoever | fot the second? |
| 00:14.30 | notsoever | must fuck right |
| 00:15.33 | whislock | Let me know when you've created that dir. |
| 00:15.44 | EdePopede | whislock: and copy the files into it? |
| 00:15.50 | whislock | Not all of them. |
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| 00:16.00 | whislock | How many .EFI files are in /EFI/debian? |
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| 00:16.07 | abrotman | seventeen |
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| 00:16.33 | EdePopede | the installer offers this option yet warns about potential problems |
| 00:16.40 | EdePopede | "subtle"? :D |
| 00:17.08 | EdePopede | whislock: fbx64 grubx64 mmx64 shimx64 |
| 00:17.23 | EdePopede | and then the cfg and a CSV |
| 00:17.48 | whislock | EdePopede: Copy grubx64.efi to /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI |
| 00:17.53 | EdePopede | seventeen seconds, the meaning of life |
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| 00:18.23 | EdePopede | done |
| 00:18.28 | whislock | EdePopede: Now, reboot. |
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| 00:18.39 | EdePopede | oh wait. capital letters required? |
| 00:19.00 | whislock | It's FAT32, it won't matter. |
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| 00:19.26 | EdePopede | but what matters is that i rm'd instead of mv -.- |
| 00:19.59 | whislock | Uh, yeah. That's a problem. |
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| 00:20.34 | EdePopede | *sigh* |
| 00:20.42 | EdePopede | still the old game |
| 00:20.54 | EdePopede | going round in circles |
| 00:22.51 | EdePopede | seems that that particular error also appeared with the windows creators upgrade |
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| 00:25.14 | EdePopede | the boot priority settings in the setup should be irrelevant if i select the boot device (and method) from the boot menu, right? |
| 00:25.32 | whislock | Yes. |
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| 00:26.42 | EdePopede | no, the cables are both fine. just a few weeks (or month maybe, tempus fugi) old and no problems at all with the disks connected to them |
| 00:27.19 | EdePopede | and so is the disk, no badblocks, worked fine as a data mule on USB |
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| 00:28.03 | EdePopede | that's all i see everywhere: https://howtoremove.guide/error-1962-lenovo-no-operating-system-found-fix/ |
| 00:28.16 | EdePopede | cable, hdd, csm, which first |
| 00:31.57 | EdePopede | SATA is set to IDE btw |
| 00:32.01 | EdePopede | err |
| 00:32.06 | EdePopede | SATA is set to AHCI btw |
| 00:34.08 | EdePopede | one tip was to unpower it. can't find anything in the bios so i'll try this one too |
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| 00:48.17 | Aebian | is there a good example somewhere for iptables routing? I want to route traffic comming from eth1 to a specific ip address on eth0 |
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| 00:54.17 | EdePopede | whislock: AHA? i disabled CSM and there are news. the boot menu looks different, but then i get a Secure Boot Violation: Invalid Signature detected. |
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| 00:55.28 | EdePopede | wot?! it was disabled just one minute ago Oo |
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| 01:28.11 | whislock | Heh. That might be a problem, yes. |
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| 02:06.13 | alphazulu | Aebian: you don't need iptables for it. you can use the route command |
| 02:06.31 | alphazulu | Aebian: what you are describing is what is called a 'host route' |
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| 02:09.40 | alphazulu | Aebian: you can use the more current ip utility to create routes: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ip-command-examples-usage-syntax/#15 |
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| 02:23.10 | Aebian | hmmm ok I'll give it a try, thanks |
| 02:23.34 | Aebian | never thought about ip route lol |
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| 03:34.11 | magic_ninja | I'm trying to compile something and I keep getting version.h not found, but build-essential is installed. |
| 03:34.16 | magic_ninja | Any ideas on what I might look at? |
| 03:36.39 | dvs | magic_ninja, linux-headers package perhaps? |
| 03:38.26 | magic_ninja | yea, they are there. Seems this version quit updating with kernel 5.2. VMWare takes a community script to keep their tooling packages up to date for some reason. |
| 03:38.32 | magic_ninja | I'll have to update to vmware 15.1 |
| 03:39.34 | dvs | What does VMWare have to do with the kernel version? |
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| 03:40.11 | magic_ninja | VMWare takes a community script to keep their tooling packages up to date for some reason. |
| 03:40.36 | whislock | magic_ninja: Any reason why you're not using the community packaging? |
| 03:40.55 | magic_ninja | It seems to intentionally break itself on kernels newer than 5.2 |
| 03:41.06 | magic_ninja | What do you mean the community packaging? |
| 03:41.15 | whislock | Are you using the proprietary VMware Tools? |
| 03:41.42 | magic_ninja | Well, not VMWare tools. |
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| 03:41.58 | whislock | "keep their tooling packages up to date" |
| 03:42.00 | magic_ninja | VMWare tools is for the guest-host integration. |
| 03:42.02 | whislock | What are we talking about, here? |
| 03:42.11 | whislock | VMware Tools does a lot more than just that. |
| 03:42.16 | magic_ninja | the kernel modules themselves |
| 03:42.32 | whislock | Which modules? |
| 03:42.43 | magic_ninja | virtual machine monitor and vmware services |
| 03:43.01 | magic_ninja | I'm not familiar enough with its internal workings to know exactly what is going on there. |
| 03:43.06 | whislock | Okay. And how are you installing those? |
| 03:43.22 | magic_ninja | They come with the installer. |
| 03:43.27 | whislock | WHICH installer? |
| 03:44.06 | magic_ninja | The VMWare installer |
| 03:44.13 | magic_ninja | Workstation |
| 03:44.20 | whislock | Then you're using VMware's packages. You shouldn't be. apt install open-vm-tools, and open-vm-tools-desktop if you're running a graphical environment. |
| 03:44.45 | whislock | VMware has recommended open-vm-tools instead of VMware Tools on Linux for ages. |
| 03:45.37 | magic_ninja | These kernel modules are required for the core functionality of vmware. What you are talking about are a different set of packages and serve a different purpose. |
| 03:45.50 | whislock | No. They're not. |
| 03:46.16 | whislock | But alright. |
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| 03:48.53 | magic_ninja | yes they are, because they are already installed |
| 03:49.03 | magic_ninja | I just checked to make sure |
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| 07:01.43 | rue_shop2 | the system chose a dpi thats WAY too low for my monitor, I need to make all the fonts smaller, what do I tweak? |
| 07:02.18 | rkeene | Maybe change the DPI ? :-D |
| 07:02.39 | rue_shop2 | where? |
| 07:04.03 | rkeene | xrandr --dpi to try it out, there's probably some GUI way to do it depending on your DE |
| 07:04.34 | rue_shop2 | pff gui |
| 07:04.58 | rue_shop2 | hmm what to I use to trigger a redraw? |
| 07:07.12 | rue_shop2 | hmm |
| 07:09.23 | rue_shop2 | and why is slicer under "programming" !?!?!?!! |
| 07:10.43 | rue_shop2 | I would like to propose under "accessability" there be an option to *shrink* the "zoom" instead of just increasing it |
| 07:11.03 | rue_shop2 | my disability is good vision and I want all the fonts about 2/3 of the size they are |
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| 09:53.53 | dataCobra | Hello, I've installed Debian Stretch via debootstrap on a Laptop HP Compaq 6510b. But now drm_kms_helper gives errors with "flip_done timed out" |
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| 10:33.52 | paines | hey guys, I could need some help |
| 10:35.30 | paines | i just installed debian testing 10. after installing nvidia-drivers , X wont start. I can fall back to console, there I would gzip xorg.conf reboot and X starts normal. It seems like nvidia drivers either don't like the login managers or something else is fishy. I tried gdm3(my default) sddm and lightgm. Wayland is disabled, as far as I can see |
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| 10:40.37 | Joit | paines: try nvidia-detect and install that driver |
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| 10:40.51 | paines | thats what i did |
| 10:41.13 | Joit | did you get an error during installation like "could not install modules"? |
| 10:41.24 | paines | nope |
| 10:41.27 | paines | they are loaded |
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| 10:41.46 | paines | sudo dmesg| grep -i nvidia[ 4.547435] nvidia: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.[ 4.547442] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.[ 4.552454] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel[ 4.558807] nvidia-nvlink: Nvlink Core is being initialized, major device number 246[ |
| 10:41.46 | paines | 4.559173] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003)[ 4.605123] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 430.64 Sun Oct 27 11:26:12 UTC 2019[ 4.640047] nvidia-modeset: Loading NVIDIA Kernel Mode Setting Driver for UNIX platforms 430.64 Sun Oct 27 11:08:21 UTC 2019[ 4.692997] [drm] [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000100] Loading |
| 10:41.47 | paines | driver[ 4.692999] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20160202 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 1al@xps:~$ |
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| 10:41.55 | Joit | try sudo glx-update --config nivida? |
| 10:42.03 | Joit | or update-glx |
| 10:42.10 | Joit | then pick the one what you want |
| 10:42.17 | paines | Joit, that I havent. i did nvidia-xconfig |
| 10:43.11 | paines | Joit, thanks I guess I have to restart |
| 10:43.15 | paines | will report back |
| 10:43.20 | Joit | okies |
| 10:43.20 | paines | Joit, thanks a bunch! |
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| 10:50.58 | Aebian | alphazulu: Doesn't seem to work. Whenever my client connects over 10.145.40.4 to the internet nothing works when I don't use any iptables rule. On the machine that should do the transfer (eth1 --> ip of eth0) I cleared all iptables rules and did https://i.imgur.com/ViKsBTq.png --> sudo ip route add 10.145.40.4 via 10.6.3.231 |
| 10:52.19 | Aebian | clients from different subnets as well get routed to that debian buster machine on eth1 (10.145.40.4) and should then get routed out over eth0 of that devices, BUT using a specific ip that is attached to eth0 (10.6.3.231) |
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| 11:01.15 | paines | Joit, no luck |
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| 11:01.36 | Joit | what driver is at use right now, he nouveau? |
| 11:01.41 | Joit | the |
| 11:01.49 | paines | intel |
| 11:01.53 | paines | this is a laptop |
| 11:01.56 | paines | intel+nvidia |
| 11:02.24 | Joit | try a apt remove *nvidia* -purge? |
| 11:02.39 | Joit | then run nvidia-detect and install that suggeste |
| 11:02.41 | Joit | d |
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| 11:03.10 | paines | I did, and it suggetsted nvidia-driver |
| 11:03.12 | Joit | and sometimes you need to blacklist he intel driver |
| 11:03.26 | Joit | well, try again but purge it before ? |
| 11:03.44 | paines | i see |
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| 11:03.53 | frickenate | Anyone happen to know whether apt-get -o Dir::Etc::SourceParts="-" is technically the correct way to eliminate looking at (default config) /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? Does that try to read from stdin, or is there a hardcoded check for "-"? Normally would use /dev/null for such a thing, but this is a directory config, not a single file. |
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| 11:11.16 | melpy | How do I set my keyboards shift to act like capslock, but change case after entering a single letter |
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| 11:12.01 | Joit | melpy i did never hear that, that it works that way |
| 11:12.22 | Joit | usually, you use the 10 fingers method to write, then that is no problem |
| 11:12.37 | Joit | lazy guy :P learn it! |
| 11:13.11 | melpy | I missing 9 fingers though |
| 11:13.18 | Joit | haha, yes sure |
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| 11:14.09 | Joit | the others 9 fingers are only reserved for chips n beer |
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| 11:23.01 | Joit | paines: bring some good news |
| 11:23.10 | paines | Joit, got it |
| 11:23.21 | paines | 3. Add/create a custom script, /usr/local/bin/switch_nvidia.sh:xrandr --setprovideroutputsource modesetting NVIDIA-0xrandr --autoxrandr --dpi 96 |
| 11:23.28 | paines | from https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers/Optimus |
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| 11:24.18 | paines | Joit, driver was fine all the time. haven'T touched that. |
| 11:25.20 | Joit | ugh ok, glad, that i have a pc with add in card :P |
| 11:26.25 | paines | Joit, 100& acknowlege. laptops suck as |
| 11:26.40 | paines | why the hell is there not a bios switch for on/offing dedeciated card |
| 11:26.48 | Joit | yeah i bet, until you figure out the proper way |
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| 11:33.42 | dartz | howdy |
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| 11:36.32 | paines | Joit, again. THANKS a bunch for you input |
| 11:37.21 | Joit | paines: np. i had to fiddle lately too with my nvidia. even, it seems it didnt help a lot anyway |
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| 11:38.16 | paines | :( |
| 11:38.22 | paines | what the issue |
| 11:38.37 | paines | i'm kinda like an expert in that field |
| 11:38.38 | paines | rofl |
| 11:39.28 | VlijmenFileer | Q: Are package install scripts supposed to / allowed to write in /etc/apt/sources.list.d? |
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| 11:40.03 | Mu3zza | hello |
| 11:40.19 | Joit | well that intel stuff is allways some special |
| 11:40.44 | Joit | and i assume, since they keep linux at the 2% of all users, they do not really care about it |
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| 11:44.24 | n4dir | VlijmenFileer: for sure some scripts seem to do it. |
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| 13:06.40 | brokencycle | Hi! I am having a problem with my Buster laptop. Every once in a while, about one to three times a day, the mouse pointer "freezes" in that I can't move it anymore. Buttons still work, so I can click things which happen to be under the mouse pointer. |
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| 13:07.08 | brokencycle | So far, switching virtual screens and closing applications sort of brought it back to life, until the next time. |
| 13:07.48 | brokencycle | However, I don't understand why this is happening in the first place, and I would like to prevent it from happening altogether. |
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| 13:39.50 | jelly | VlijmenFileer: third party packages don't have to obey Debian (or any) policies, so what they do is their problem. Packages provided by Debian in general should not touch any other package config files. |
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| 13:46.40 | nvz | brokencycle: is it a wireless mouse? A Laptop? |
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| 14:00.16 | brokencycle | nvz: It's a laptop, and it's the included touchpad that stops working for a while. |
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| 14:12.48 | nvz | brokencycle: I'd check the kernel messages (dmesg) and Xorg log (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) when it happens my thoughts are some sort of power management gone awry perhaps |
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| 14:18.17 | nvz | it would most likely be either the pointing device itself, more likely on a wireless, or the GPU |
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| 14:32.48 | selim | can someone help me to figure out how I get the output reason for access denied with nfs-kernel-server on a debian wheezy? |
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| 14:38.14 | selim | for example which debug flags do I have to enable on the server to see the access denied logs |
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| 14:49.58 | RoyK | selim: access denied for mounting or for file access? |
| 14:50.12 | RoyK | selim: last I checked, logging nfs issues is a PITA |
| 14:50.25 | selim | PITA? |
| 14:50.36 | selim | ohh it for sure is |
| 14:51.09 | selim | yet the last time I did that it was easy I just need the correct flag to show the access denied from server end |
| 14:51.20 | selim | I don't know if the server has a resolution issue or something different |
| 14:51.28 | selim | could be a typo as well |
| 14:51.43 | annadane | PITA = Pain In The Ass |
| 14:52.02 | annadane | or a very tasty greek sandwich |
| 14:52.08 | annadane | wrap thing |
| 14:52.52 | selim | annadane: just took a moment but I got it ;-) |
| 14:52.58 | selim | still I need to solve the issue |
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| 15:01.50 | RoyK | selim: can you mount the share? |
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| 15:06.05 | dka | I am using modem-manager-gui to send SMS from GUI. I have been trying to send SMS from command line with MMCLI but I keep having error (see https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mobile-broadband/ModemManager/issues/162#note_343848 ) . According to the author of ModemManager, modem-manager-gui is also using MMCli so it should work. How can I check `mmcli` debug log when sending a SMS from modem-manager-gui ? |
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| 15:13.20 | ThePendulum | turns out it's not the dying drive that's making my NAS crash |
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| 15:18.21 | dka | How can I grab mmcli LOG when sending SMS from modem-manager-gui ? |
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| 15:24.50 | xormor | https://github.com/xormor2 |
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| 15:29.24 | subcool | Ok. im at a bit of a standstill. i have Reinstalled Debian 10, and 9; 5 times. Yea, its on me. but my god. Every EVERY time i try to install the nvidia drivers - something goes NUTS. My last failure i thought WORKED - reboot. Couldnt go further than dmesg [00000004.XX] - something stupid that didnt even initialize the video yet. And why is 10 such a PIA? - i cant even get teamviewer installed properly without alsasound going nuts to. |
| 15:30.40 | subcool | oh -- one good question. I gave up with the CD usb - and move on to DVD since i spent most of my time waiting for network downloads. - But with that- there are 3 dvds - do i need to "burn" all three" or can i burn the first one, and copy the other two the the same USB but as .ISOs |
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| 15:31.48 | nvz | subcool: the first of any given DE is enough to get it installed.. there are actually like 14 or more DVDs |
| 15:32.06 | nvz | subcool: we just no longer build them and store them on mirrors.. you have to make them yourself |
| 15:32.32 | subcool | nvz: whats DE? - 14 dvds? jease. |
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| 15:32.51 | nvz | subcool: Desktop Environment |
| 15:33.05 | subcool | nvz: are you sure? i had to pull this 9.11 off a mirror, because debian doesnt have anything before 10. |
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| 15:36.16 | abrotman | which mirror? |
| 15:37.29 | nvz | abrotman: while I'm confused about what they're asking entirely.. I think they mean cdimage.debian.org only has buster which is true |
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| 15:37.54 | subcool | https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/9.11.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
| 15:38.21 | subcool | nvz: sorry- |
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| 15:39.11 | abrotman | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-cd/10.2.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
| 15:39.21 | abrotman | not sure if that's what you're looking for |
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| 15:39.42 | subcool | ok.. i was wrong. |
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| 15:40.46 | subcool | abrotman: no- i had gone to the original download, and backtracked through the file tree to find 9.X - every folder i picked, was empty. WHen i googled it- i ran into cdimage.debian.org |
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| 15:41.32 | subcool | I have already installed 10, and too many headaches. My network card would stop working for no reason until reboot, among other things, So i choose to go back to Debian 9.x - |
| 15:42.44 | subcool | nvz: cdimage.debian.org/mirror - has Debian 9. - cdimage.debian.org/current does not. |
| 15:43.08 | abrotman | that's normla |
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| 15:43.26 | dvs | subcool, current is the current version of Debian, which is 10.2 |
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| 15:43.48 | subcool | abrotman: i thought i would be able to find it in its own rev history. - dvs yea.. i got that. |
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| 15:45.40 | moistmoskito | well if anyone nerds out on custom wm builds ... still a work in progress but what do you think https://imgur.com/a/33oSLEK |
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| 15:47.00 | GnuGuy | love the conky |
| 15:47.04 | moistmoskito | no conky |
| 15:47.12 | moistmoskito | thanks though. |
| 15:47.42 | moistmoskito | its a wibox with custom lua widgets set on desktop full screen |
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| 15:48.41 | GnuGuy | either way, still very cool |
| 15:49.15 | tehnull | wuts all that business along the left edge of the screen? |
| 15:49.26 | tehnull | err |
| 15:49.27 | tehnull | right |
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| 15:49.35 | tehnull | I should go to bed... |
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| 15:51.55 | subcool | Ok. this is odd. when i use teamviewer, or x11vnc, when i remote in, My terminal window looks severely tansparent |
| 15:53.05 | moistmoskito | tehnull: calander |
| 15:53.14 | moistmoskito | err typo but yea calendar |
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| 15:53.46 | tehnull | cool |
| 15:53.49 | tehnull | I like it |
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| 15:58.44 | EdePopede | moistmoskito: nice design. it's only missing one thing, unless i'm blind. with that calendar a suitable clock would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mengenlehreuhr |
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| 16:01.24 | EdePopede | (or at least something similar, i'm sure that design is copyrighted or whatever, as with that swiss station clock. would apply for open releases i guess.) |
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| 16:02.17 | whislock | You can't copyright a design. |
| 16:02.34 | moistmoskito | that would be neat to do a desktop clock though below the other widgets |
| 16:02.51 | moistmoskito | currently i have it in the lower right on main bar |
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| 16:05.39 | EdePopede | "or whatever" |
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| 16:06.58 | whislock | Which is one of the most meaningless combinations of words in the English language. |
| 16:07.13 | moistmoskito | which says a lot |
| 16:07.23 | whislock | Indeed. |
| 16:07.42 | EdePopede | https://web.archive.org/web/20160811000915if_/http://genevalunch.com/2013/09/12/apples-mobile-ios-7-gives-swiss-train-clock/ |
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| 16:08.01 | crn | can i install libcups2:i386 and libcupsys2:i386 on debian 10? my printer driver needs these libraries. |
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| 16:10.45 | whislock | EdePopede: Hardly a good example. Look at $everySwissWatchMaker aping Omega designs for divers watches. |
| 16:11.22 | abrotman | crn: sure, why not? |
| 16:11.31 | whislock | Anyway. Off-topic. |
| 16:11.56 | crn | abrotman, thanks |
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| 16:12.19 | abrotman | dpkg: tell crn about multiarch |
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| 16:13.42 | Joit | i think they put the 32bit liibs out of debian 10 |
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| 16:14.24 | crn | abrotman, i'll google multiarch. |
| 16:14.48 | subcool | no one has had an issue with tranparency when VNC? |
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| 16:16.41 | crn | Joit, the driver deb won't install because of unmet i386 dependencies. i'll try and install them. |
| 16:16.51 | abrotman | crn: the bot told you about it |
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| 16:17.23 | crn | abrotman, ah, i see it on the left. thanks. |
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| 16:18.35 | crn | abrotman, that looks like the answer. |
| 16:18.40 | Joit | crn: no chance to get support with xsane by that or a new driver at the printer homepage? |
| 16:19.01 | EdePopede | what does a UEFI installation of buster (on a fresh disk) *need*? how do i recognize one, how do i see that it should be complete? in a MBR system it would have some boot code and the partition table in sector 001. is there anything similar with UEFI? |
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| 16:19.40 | towo` | EdePopede, uefi needs an esp partition |
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| 16:25.03 | EdePopede | ok then. there is one starting at sector 2048, 511MiB in size (uh i thought i made a 1GiB one). file -s says DOS/MBR boot code, FAT32. media descriptor 0xf8. now for the content.... |
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| 16:26.58 | EdePopede | /EFI/debian with 4 .efi files, the grub.cfg and BOOTX64.CSV. and /EFI/BOOT/GRUBX64.EFi copied later just to satisfy a potentially problematic machine. |
| 16:27.25 | crn | Joit, the printer (xerox phaser 6010) home page only offers a i386 deb (from 2011). |
| 16:28.01 | towo` | EdePopede, with efi you want gpt instead of dos/mbr |
| 16:28.46 | towo` | https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI ever read? |
| 16:29.40 | EdePopede | ah right, i disabled CSM as the last action last night and then there was a new dialog informing about "Secure Boot Violation: Invalid Signature detected." - and i did deactivate secure boot just one minute ago (but then it was back ago, huh?) |
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| 16:30.15 | EdePopede | towo`: i always want GPT, i never wanted MBR, not even during the 90s |
| 16:30.36 | EdePopede | (or at least its partition management from the early 80s) |
| 16:31.20 | EdePopede | with all of this it looks to me like debian and secure boot aren't friends? |
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| 16:37.08 | towo` | buster is supporting secureboot |
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| 16:37.44 | towo` | bt i don't see any benefit in using secureboot |
| 16:38.55 | whislock | Some assurance that what you're booting is what you intended to boot? |
| 16:39.09 | whislock | Hard not to see the benefit, there. |
| 16:41.06 | EdePopede | turned secure boot off, it can't find anything bootable. reactivated it, the error message is back. |
| 16:42.49 | EdePopede | just that Error 1962 > https://superuser.com/questions/559526/lenovo-desktop-computer-only-boot-with-f12 |
| 16:42.52 | ahi2 | EdePopede: did you try grub rescue? |
| 16:43.13 | EdePopede | i'll check for what is suggested in the top answer, the combination of settings |
| 16:43.33 | EdePopede | maybe it's the one that i didn't have during the last 2 days |
| 16:43.55 | EdePopede | ahi2: from the installer/a live system? |
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| 16:44.56 | ahi2 | i used the netboot iso not the livecd |
| 16:45.06 | ahi2 | it has grub rescue |
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| 16:46.54 | ahi2 | i installed dual boot uefi and grub wasnt there. i used grub rescue to force grub install and that worked |
| 16:47.08 | selim | RoyK: no I can't it says: "Access denied by server" the question is why, either it's due to missing dns resolution, but I tried the IP as well, still doesn't work |
| 16:48.03 | ahi2 | i used the windows system partition as esp and mounted it as /boot/efi |
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| 16:51.25 | HelloShitty | Peeps, I need help. I'm missing some key packages and I don't have Internet in my laptop |
| 16:51.41 | EdePopede | seems i can have either Secure Boot or CSM, but not both |
| 16:51.48 | HelloShitty | Not even fter connecting the laptop by RJ45 cable directly to my router |
| 16:51.56 | EdePopede | ahi2: i suppose it is also on the default DVD1? |
| 16:52.05 | HelloShitty | What key packages might I be missing |
| 16:52.07 | HelloShitty | ? |
| 16:52.21 | Joit | EdePopede: sign the modules first? https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot |
| 16:52.23 | ahi2 | EdePopede: i didnt see it on the livecd installer |
| 16:52.46 | EdePopede | ahi2: DVD1, not the live |
| 16:52.53 | ahi2 | i don t know |
| 16:52.58 | ahi2 | never used it |
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| 16:53.29 | EdePopede | Joit: *i* have to sign modules? |
| 16:53.32 | Joit | HelloShitty: try to burn a normal installation cd or dvd? |
| 16:53.56 | Joit | EdePopede: like it says on the page, sb seems for me load only *trusted* softwre |
| 16:53.59 | EdePopede | so it's not "download iso, put it to a stick, boot it, install, boot the installed system" anymore? |
| 16:54.30 | Joit | for your lenovo it seems not EdePopede |
| 16:54.47 | HelloShitty | Joit, what for? I don't want to install Debian over the one I have |
| 16:55.10 | HelloShitty | I'm trying to figure out which packages am I missing to be able to connect to the Internet |
| 16:55.13 | Joit | HelloShitty: to get the packages from ie ? |
| 16:55.40 | HelloShitty | Ok, but I need to know what packages am I looking for |
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| 16:55.58 | HelloShitty | I'm using Plasma Desktop and I already installed plasma-nm |
| 16:56.13 | Joit | HelloShitty: well, just to be cirous, how did you bork up your installation like that? |
| 16:56.30 | HelloShitty | I tried to uninstall VLC |
| 16:56.45 | HelloShitty | And I hit 'y' without reading the message |
| 16:57.02 | HelloShitty | Which apparently unistalled many packages I didn't want to uninstall |
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| 16:58.23 | Joit | HelloShitty: there is a meta package for plasmadesktop, just reinstall it ? |
| 16:59.08 | Joit | HelloShitty: i only dont know what plasma you have right now, i dropped kde and plasma |
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| 17:01.19 | Joit | HelloShitty: apt install --reinstall plasma-desktop ? |
| 17:01.23 | EdePopede | > This meant that on many new computer systems, users had to first disable SB to be able to install and use Debian. |
| 17:01.39 | EdePopede | not here. won't boot the system with or without SB |
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| 17:02.08 | ahi2 | do you have to tell your bios where to boot debian? |
| 17:02.21 | moistmoskito | would someone mind pinging my name to test a weechat script? |
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| 17:03.43 | Joit | EdePopede: but where is your problem since you only installed debian and nothing else, there are no malware on the system or haxxor hardware |
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| 17:04.06 | HelloShitty | Joit I already reinstalled plasma-desktop |
| 17:04.21 | EdePopede | it. does. not. find. anything. bootable. NEVER. |
| 17:04.22 | Joit | HelloShitty: and still no network ? |
| 17:04.57 | HelloShitty | Nope |
| 17:04.57 | EdePopede | so if this shim thing is the solution, why is grub installed? throw out grub, install shim, problem solved? |
| 17:05.02 | HelloShitty | But I managed to fix it |
| 17:05.05 | Joit | sb is so supersave, that it even locks you out from boot :D |
| 17:05.21 | Joit | HelloShitty: nice, and how? |
| 17:05.26 | HelloShitty | I managed to download network-manager on my smartphone and send it via Bluetooth to my laptop |
| 17:05.40 | EdePopede | and why does the installer boot in both modes, where's security here? |
| 17:05.43 | HelloShitty | Installed it and it is already connected to the Internet |
| 17:05.54 | Joit | HelloShitty: haha nice |
| 17:06.10 | EdePopede | allowing only signed systems on the HD, but everything from the stick? typical microsoft logic.... |
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| 17:06.55 | ahi2 | EFI/debian/shimx64.efi |
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| 17:08.10 | EdePopede | and where do i tell the bios to use it? since it is there. |
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| 17:08.48 | moistmoskito | oh ty joit i mispooke and meant mentino my name |
| 17:09.00 | Joit | moistmoskito: ! !! |
| 17:09.16 | moistmoskito | ty at least this notify script works |
| 17:09.23 | Joit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:10.57 | Joit | seems you have to create a certain usb stick that you can boot from it at sb mode |
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| 17:11.30 | EdePopede | i think i spent a few hours in the bios over the last 2 days, couldn't see any of the efi files in any of the setting screens |
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| 17:12.08 | EdePopede | joit: why? the stick boots fine in any mode, with every setup in the bios. never refused it. not the installer, not the live system |
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| 17:12.46 | EdePopede | i even prefer the efi version, couldn't find a grub shell on the legacy one |
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| 17:14.37 | Joit | EdePopede: some pages suggests that you need to format it with gpt mode |
| 17:14.53 | Joit | https://www.dell.com/community/Vostro/Is-it-possible-to-boot-from-USB-with-the-Secure-boot-enabled/td-p/6147642 |
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| 17:15.33 | Joit | but its only for windows seems, and that is, what i did find quick |
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| 17:15.43 | EdePopede | i don't even care about secure boot, i'm sure mocrosoft office won't run on buster and i wouldn't be able to watch the disney stream (not that i'd had ANY interest in either of these), but turning off secure boot doesn't help anything. |
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| 17:16.33 | whislock | That... is not what secure boot is. At all. |
| 17:16.49 | EdePopede | joit: that's a lenovo, not dell. and i *always* use gpt. not sure if *this* pc can handle it at boot time, will test it when it gets time to repeat the whole action here |
| 17:16.50 | Joit | EdePopede: what is your problem actually, i did miss it with all the other comments |
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| 17:18.11 | Joit | you installed debian at your hdd and it will not boot with your lenovo because of sb ? |
| 17:18.19 | EdePopede | whislock: whatever it is about, i don't care about it. never needed it in nearly 3 decades, won't need it in the next 3. unless some law will enforce it. but then i'm sure there are alternatives to the wintel hardware world to run debian. |
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| 17:20.02 | EdePopede | Joit: nearly. because of whatever. no setting so far made the computer find something bootable on the disk. but secure boot (including deacticated CSM), which ends up with a Secure Boot Violation warning. but everything else: "nifty little boot code, where are you?" |
| 17:20.45 | EdePopede | even the loop while it retries to find some bootloader is different with or without secure boot |
| 17:21.00 | Joit | EdePopede: but your hdd's are proper detected? |
| 17:21.18 | EdePopede | i installed the system already, so... :) |
| 17:22.08 | EdePopede | i think i should be able to boot the system from the installer's live grub shell |
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| 17:23.44 | EdePopede | wtf. a bios error now i've never seen before (062 iirc). something with integrity failure. though pressing F2 brought me back on the route, to the boot menu now |
| 17:23.48 | Copenhagen_Bram | How do I run a program that requires libpng12-dev? |
| 17:24.42 | RoyK | Copenhagen_Bram: a program normally won't require a -dev package - it might be needed to compile the program, though |
| 17:25.20 | Copenhagen_Bram | Oh. Sorry, it needs libpng12.so.0 |
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| 17:30.09 | RoyK | ,v libpng |
| 17:30.10 | judd | No package named 'libpng' was found in amd64. |
| 17:30.22 | RoyK | ,v libpng12 |
| 17:30.23 | judd | No package named 'libpng12' was found in amd64. |
| 17:30.32 | Copenhagen_Bram | ,v libpng-dev |
| 17:30.33 | judd | Package: libpng-dev on amd64 -- stretch: 1.6.28-1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.6.28-1+deb9u1; buster: 1.6.36-6; bullseye: 1.6.37-1; sid: 1.6.37-1 |
| 17:30.55 | Copenhagen_Bram | ,v libpng16-16 |
| 17:30.56 | judd | Package: libpng16-16 on amd64 -- stretch: 1.6.28-1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.6.28-1+deb9u1; buster: 1.6.36-6; bullseye: 1.6.37-1; sid: 1.6.37-1 |
| 17:31.26 | RoyK | so probably compatible with libpng12, then |
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| 17:32.07 | Joit | EdePopede: this ? https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkStation-Workstations/UEFI-Mode-installation-of-Linux-distributions-on-Thinkstation/td-p/1018555 |
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| 17:32.57 | Copenhagen_Bram | RoyK: I tried symbolically linking libpng16 to libpng12.so.0 but the game failed to run |
| 17:33.03 | Joit | they ponder at a previous thread about, if lenovo machines only want boot windows systems, or that grub not want install at a gpt partition |
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| 17:33.45 | EdePopede | Joit: no, thinkcentre M82, but i'm not sure they use the same board for all models. but i'll read :) |
| 17:33.45 | Joit | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Other-Linux-Discussions/How-to-install-Linux-on-UEFI-systems-where-GRUB-fail-to-install/td-p/674103 |
| 17:33.56 | EdePopede | ah sounds good |
| 17:34.27 | EdePopede | btw i managed it to boot into the initramdisk at least. only missing the ROOT= parameter. not sure how to add it in the grub shell? |
| 17:34.37 | Joit | well the threads are more confusing for me as to see a fast solution there |
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| 17:34.57 | Joit | EdePopede: during boot you can edit the startup parameter with e |
| 17:35.05 | Joit | like edit |
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| 17:36.19 | EdePopede | i found this (iirc on stackexchange or related, forgot to make a note) > insmod linux > linux (hd1,msdos8)/install.amd/vmlinuz > initrd (hd1,msdos8)/install.amd/initrd.gz > boot ### of course pathes have to be adapted, but it works so far. |
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| 17:38.19 | EdePopede | > Lenovo BIOS first checks the UEFI Boot Manager configuration for an entry labelled "Windows Boot Manager". <-- well done, Lenovo. what did billy boy promise you for this? |
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| 17:42.03 | subcool | Ok i have followed a couple guides, and i cant seem to pin this. I am trying to use the 3 DVD ISO, as local repo sources. I've had a lot of failure, but i finally go tthem to kinda load. |
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| 17:42.31 | EdePopede | btw, does the grub shell offer a pager or some means to scroll back? the minimized window the 10 installer has due to the huge border around it is even too small to show all the tabbed commands |
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| 17:43.24 | subcool | but- now that they are loading with Apt update, it says the repos isnt signed. i cant find anything on google yet .. any ideas? |
| 17:43.47 | subcool | my best resources have been this link - https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/512940/installing-debian-packages-from-stretch-dvd-2-and-3-after-installation-using-apt |
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| 17:44.54 | subcool | but eveyrone is getting this to work with A LOT less involvment than me. I have now added them to my fstab, sources.list., pre-mounted (aside from mount -a) Everyone gets it to work just with apt-cdrom. that is the most dificult so far. |
| 17:45.16 | abrotman | subcool: do you also have http sources? |
| 17:46.15 | subcool | abrotman: i do - but the guide said to disable them. |
| 17:46.35 | Joit | EdePopede: i was more looking on the efibootmgr to add a linux entry |
| 17:46.41 | subcool | THis would be a very helpful resource to have on the go. |
| 17:47.01 | subcool | i've been testing apt onion source - SOO SLOW |
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| 17:48.11 | Joit | EdePopede: and for the root= you need the uuid from your hdd |
| 17:48.11 | EdePopede | joit: what do i want? a shell in the root partition? in the installer env? reinstall GRUB? install GRUB into that media path? |
| 17:48.34 | Joit | ede you want something what start up your debian installation |
| 17:48.52 | EdePopede | so i'll take the 1st option for now |
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| 17:49.05 | EdePopede | i think i never needed that rescue thing before |
| 17:49.08 | Joit | what was the 1st option then ? :P |
| 17:49.32 | Joit | well, you are special with your lenovo, so you need special things :D |
| 17:49.36 | EdePopede | the shell on the root partition |
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| 17:50.40 | Joit | and no, i dont think, grub offers something to show the old startlines. but it is only temporary so far you d not save it with ctrl x |
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| 17:51.42 | EdePopede | yes, lenovo really is special. bought a usb hdd box last summer to replace my old broken system, had some problems with it, went back into the shop (things fixed themselves until i was back home, but that's another story). talked to that guy a bit and he said that lenovo is special. together with some other brands from the business, which better should be generally avoided. |
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| 17:52.02 | Joit | EdePopede: you get your uuid with blkid (with a live cd?) |
| 17:52.17 | EdePopede | or by cat'ing fstab in the shell ;) |
| 17:52.41 | EdePopede | so. what did i want to do in this shell now? |
| 17:52.44 | Joit | yes, if its already there |
| 17:53.08 | Joit | you did want add the root=parameter, to dont boot only into the ramdisk? |
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| 17:53.16 | Joit | :P |
| 17:53.29 | EdePopede | i wouldn't even mind booting from the stick and switching to the system. played that boot/root game long enough in my dos times |
| 17:53.40 | Joit | well, seems lenovo is good for windows business mens |
| 17:54.08 | EdePopede | it's a used one, afaik refurbished from some business people |
| 17:54.23 | Joit | or the standard office guy, what gets a shiny laptop from his company, what he should not touch, but only work with it |
| 17:54.35 | EdePopede | heh exactly |
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| 17:54.58 | EdePopede | though they maybe should deactivate the external usb ports then |
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| 17:56.21 | EdePopede | with this boot game (the command chain above) can i only get directly to the system or could i also refer to the installed GRUB? |
| 17:56.45 | EdePopede | the UUID for /boot/efi is *much* less to type :D |
| 17:56.50 | Joit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.44 | EdePopede | while i'm in grub, right? or is there any place where i could fire this (in fact only the ROOT was missing) from a shell (grub or rescue) |
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| 17:58.18 | Joit | does it show the grub menu? if so, then press at this screen just e |
| 17:58.22 | Joit | then you can edit that line |
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| 17:59.54 | Jubei | is it possible to merge two filesystems? |
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| 18:04.55 | abrotman | !unionfs |
| 18:04.55 | dpkg | [unionfs] A stackable "unification filesystem" combines several directories to provide a merged single directory. Used in Live CD / diskless systems, where the read-only root directory is joined with a writable tmpfs filesystem. For a kernel-space implementation, ask me about <aufs>. For user-space implementations, ask me about <unionfs-fuse>, <funionfs>. "Unionfs for Linux" was removed from Debian post-Etch to resolve bug #515958. |
| 18:05.00 | abrotman | like that? |
| 18:05.12 | EdePopede | can i change the keyboard settings for grub editing? this us layout drives me crazy |
| 18:05.30 | Jubei | abrotman thanks |
| 18:05.39 | Joit | i dont think so, so far no keytable is loaded |
| 18:06.43 | EdePopede | /bot/grub/layouts doesn't even exist :/ |
| 18:07.15 | Joit | and usually you do not need it at startup :P |
| 18:07.21 | EdePopede | trying to inject a boot selection for the installed system into "advanced options" |
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| 18:07.43 | EdePopede | yea... i'm not the 'press the button' guy ;) |
| 18:07.53 | pie3 | IoT includes embedded systems? |
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| 18:08.55 | abrotman | pie3: That's a bit vague |
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| 18:10.05 | Joit | EdePopede: m/s/files/1/0557/2745/products/USlayout_1400x.jpg?v=1549488087 |
| 18:10.22 | Joit | https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0557/2745/products/USlayout_1400x.jpg?v=1549488087 |
| 18:10.28 | pie3 | i dont have enough space to include both words, so if one is subpart of another, i will use main word only. abrotman |
| 18:11.28 | EdePopede | joit: steampunk debian :D |
| 18:11.55 | pie3 | debian, redhat, fedora, ubuntu, bsd all have certification program? |
| 18:12.02 | pie3 | online? |
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| 18:13.35 | Joit | EdePopede: that all the lessions from the pain what linux did give me :p |
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| 18:14.09 | EdePopede | windows was pain. linux is more like.... painful pleasure ;) |
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| 18:15.05 | EdePopede | one of the first lessons i learnt is that usually there's no good reason to just give up. most of the times there's a solution. |
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| 18:19.26 | abrotman | pie3: no need to message me. This is a Debian support channel |
| 18:19.47 | Joit | i am actually pretty disapointed from linux over 18xx. they changed and messed up so much things, like more root restricitions for the normal user, and also drop the i386 support |
| 18:20.27 | Joit | kde is for me now only a joke, where you cant do a lot anymore |
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| 18:21.29 | Joit | tried to install some printer software and it even can not print without root mode, because it seems do not have the rights under kde, at xfce it works without problems |
| 18:22.34 | Copenhagen_Bram | oof |
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| 18:23.44 | Joit | and seems that is all because of a hyperparanoid sick dev |
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| 18:26.03 | moistmoskito | Joit: yea i struggle to feel at home in any DE nowadays |
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| 18:27.14 | moistmoskito | EdePopede: i love how a ps4 controller works ootb in linux but in windows you need to install some bs to convince win that its an xbox controller |
| 18:27.21 | Joit | moistmoskito: yes, same, kde had the most handy sofware, lots of nice gagdets, all gone for me from 17.xx mint, i would roll back, if now blender and other stuff would work there |
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| 18:27.52 | moistmoskito | kde is nice ... but i cant suffer it beyond testing a distro |
| 18:28.19 | moistmoskito | but when i first got debian stable on this machine i sat with kde a while to make sure all my desires worked |
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| 18:30.20 | texteditor | quick question for anyone who knows about that status on realtek 8xxx stuff, why does the normal installer (not nonfree) ask about needed firmware, yet I can ignore it and still configure the NIC it complained about? is there a partial driver in the kernel? ipv6 auto-conf didnt work but dhcp4 did. to be clear, i DID NOT load the firmware |
| 18:31.08 | EdePopede | moistmoskito: not to forget that you ha(ve|d) to hunt the web often enough for some basic functionality soldered in some DLL. want an eurosign in 2 decades ago? just install our nifty keyboard driver! |
| 18:31.47 | EdePopede | took me a bit of googling to get rid of capslock and play around with the mouse buttons. |
| 18:31.48 | moistmoskito | EdePopede: and often its incompatible > winxp |
| 18:31.55 | EdePopede | *nod* |
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| 18:32.26 | moistmoskito | EdePopede: even as far as gaming ... i can play any of the games i enjoy including ffxiv at times on linux |
| 18:32.49 | EdePopede | so, C-x / F10 aren't really "boot" but more like "save settings and return to the menu" iirc? |
| 18:33.01 | moistmoskito | though i still enjoy project 1999 everquest way too much |
| 18:33.27 | EdePopede | windows or linux was mostly no question for me in gaming. the hardware i had available was the real culprit :P |
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| 18:36.15 | EdePopede | Billions of blue blistering barnacles! IT WORKED! |
| 18:36.32 | EdePopede | going back to the 90s, booting Buster the old way. |
| 18:37.04 | EdePopede | instead of 1.44MB the boot disk now has 32GB, but who cares *g* |
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| 18:37.52 | texteditor | anyone tried linux in Hyper-V? it runs like shit. maybe headless is fine, but hyper-v's rendering sucks. |
| 18:37.56 | EdePopede | all these live / install disks... was there ever one with a "boot from hard disk" option? |
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| 18:38.29 | Joit | EdePopede: yes, some have that option |
| 18:38.56 | EdePopede | could be that it was a live knoppis where i've seen this. years ago. but is a handy entry, often enough i forgot the disk in the drive and just had to select from the menu |
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| 18:40.15 | EdePopede | i don't think i have any problems booting from the installer disk. it's not damn windows xp you had to restart 3 times a day :P |
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| 18:44.24 | Joit | EdePopede: its even more save like a key to your safe :P |
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| 18:45.33 | EdePopede | my old xp is as safe as my new win10. both never have seen any networking :D |
| 18:47.00 | EdePopede | anyway, the Lenovo will become a dual boot machine, i guess. also will have to look around vor VM/Xen solutions, though is Xen even a thing anymore? |
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| 18:49.20 | Joit | i think that VM is free now at last there is a free version from oracle |
| 18:49.30 | EdePopede | and having networking for windows would not be *that* bad, still have to come up with a design. no concerns with Buster of course, but Windows? Hmpf. could maybe connect it to this machine, or maybe a Pi as router. with the option to treat the Lenovo differently depending on the system running: some Linux or Windows. |
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| 18:51.16 | EdePopede | i even had a Xen kernel installed, with Squeeze i think. never used it for virtualizing, some day the problems started which then disappeared with the installation of Stretch (freezes, REISUB, "CPU lockup.. 23seconds..." the web is full with such reports) |
| 18:51.54 | EdePopede | and then 2GB only. not really an issue until i start firefox. and the Lenovo has 8GB, may take me a while to reach that limit |
| 18:52.49 | Joit | i got 8gb too, but can reach it often with some firefox-windows-war |
| 18:53.20 | Joit | especially some live streams mess up the memory managing with firefox seems |
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| 18:53.31 | EdePopede | and since *this* is the working horse i can play with the other one. not even sure that the system i just installed will survive for too long. resides on a before empty disk, i have an USB adapter for the others, so what could happen :) |
| 18:54.09 | EdePopede | i'm away from firefox streaming. no netflix/disney&co, and for what i use mpv/youtube-dl is a nice team |
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| 18:55.26 | Joit | by me, it is only by watching the streeams, not streaming by myself |
| 18:55.52 | EdePopede | that's what i meant |
| 18:55.56 | Joit | i made me a littl ebash script to clean the memory then, and then it mostly works again sync ; sync ; sync ; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches && sync ; sync ; sync ; swapoff -a && swapon -a |
| 18:56.21 | EdePopede | i once tested a bit around ressource usage, and watching streams in the browser.... uh |
| 18:56.24 | Joit | else the whole machine is laggins over and over |
| 18:56.31 | EdePopede | even worse when it needs Widevine |
| 18:57.26 | EdePopede | swapoff was an issue recently here. in htop it looked like RAM_USAGE+SWAP was a bit more than RAM_TOTAL |
| 18:57.46 | EdePopede | unmounting everything unused helped |
| 18:57.58 | Joit | i looked for some commands to clean either the ram or write it to disc and found that |
| 18:58.04 | EdePopede | seems that a lot of the cache was used for the data disks |
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| 18:58.36 | EdePopede | i'll steal it if you don't mind ;) |
| 18:58.51 | Joit | sure, you only steal it from the web P |
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| 18:59.42 | EdePopede | and as we all know, the things from the web are in public domain :D |
| 18:59.46 | Joit | but one thing has this script, either t complains, that not enough ram is available or it close some programs what it means are unused |
| 19:00.02 | EdePopede | oh. oomkiller? |
| 19:00.20 | livebrain | you guys use 8gb of ram ? |
| 19:00.21 | Joit | so better save your work before and close some unusued things |
| 19:00.24 | livebrain | for normal daily use |
| 19:00.51 | EdePopede | usually i close the browser, but atm i use a temporary profile with only the usual 10 entries per tab after closing. that's... not good |
| 19:01.02 | EdePopede | livebrain: on my "newer" machine, yes |
| 19:01.03 | Joit | no, i have blender and other stuff, beside looking at the net all time, and firefox can eat ram |
| 19:01.06 | EdePopede | here i have 2GB |
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| 19:01.26 | nkuttler | livebrain: i keep a windows vm in memory.. so it's a given.. |
| 19:01.58 | Joit | i would even like to have 16gb instead only 8 to be safe, but its still some bucks |
| 19:02.16 | livebrain | i have an old pc, running ddr2 |
| 19:02.23 | livebrain | was going to buy used ram |
| 19:02.29 | Joit | and with my script i can keep the balance somewhat |
| 19:02.30 | livebrain | ppl asking 15 euros in my country :X |
| 19:03.43 | Joit | well, you need to look too what your board support, sometimes its better to buy 2x 2gb or 2x 4gb instead 4x 2gb |
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| 19:04.43 | Joit | mainly i allways looked for more ram, i had more latency problems with less ie 1gb or 2 |
| 19:04.50 | tukta | so for applications that have no package use .deb how would the applications stay updated? |
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| 19:05.34 | Joit | tukta: manually? |
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| 19:06.17 | tukta | so far I have just one .deb installed, I hesitate to install them |
| 19:06.48 | Joit | i dont, so far its a program what are as an older version at the packages |
| 19:10.13 | tukta | I guess one could look for backports for things not in buster? |
| 19:10.20 | tukta | instead of using the .debs ? |
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| 19:13.55 | jhutchins | tukta: That's the preferred strategy. |
| 19:14.49 | tukta | what exactly Is a 'backport' |
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| 19:17.31 | jrabbit | newer software pakcaged for older versions of debian |
| 19:17.54 | jrabbit | so you can have latest firefox or something but it still uses the libraries in your version of debian |
| 19:18.03 | jrabbit | if it didn't you'd need the new libs too |
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| 19:22.36 | jhutchins | !backports |
| 19:22.36 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 19:23.38 | jhutchins | tukta: You can build your own if you need to. |
| 19:24.10 | jhutchins | Not everything can be backported though, there is a checkbackport command here that helps figure that out. |
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| 19:28.55 | EdePopede | tukta: you could install a cron job and some config for each of the appication. if not even backports are an option. as for youtube-dl which updates at least every week. or even twice a day. |
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| 19:47.10 | Gerowen | Question. The "View File" option for viewing an SSL cert has disappeared from my Gnome context menu. I can open with a text editor and such, but I had an option that just said "View File" that showed me all of the details in it. I opened it with a text editor once, but now I can't find that "View File" option in the list of applications. Any idea what that actually was and how I can restore it? |
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| 19:49.33 | eric23 | I am having trouble finding a bug I am having on the net. Firefox crashes the tab when I try to print to file or printer. I am on debian 10 with firefox-esr 68.2. Can anyone else confirm Firefox-esr crashing? thanks |
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| 19:50.24 | Gerowen | eric23: Any website or one in particular? |
| 19:51.20 | eric23 | Gerowen: It's all pages |
| 19:52.12 | tukta | !simple backports |
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| 19:52.31 | tukta | !debian-backports |
| 19:52.31 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <buster backports>) and oldstable (<stretch backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 19:52.37 | RoyK | hm... when nmcli device show tells me 'GENERAL.STATE: 20 (unavailable)' for wlan0 - any idea what might be the issue? this is buster on arm |
| 19:53.09 | Gerowen | eric23: Working fine for me, just printed a page to a PDF. |
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| 19:56.24 | tukta | EdePopede, I'm looking for torbrowser , seen it on linux mint as a package "installer" or so , which uses debians package management I guess |
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| 19:58.37 | EdePopede | tukta: i've unpacked some non-debian .debs manually already and threw them into /usr/local. sometimes the install scripts don't do much so i don't mind taking their job |
| 19:59.11 | EdePopede | firefox is a tarball, chromium came es a selfinstalling shell script. |
| 19:59.17 | EdePopede | s/es/as/ |
| 20:00.31 | tukta | actually I prefer not to do too much tweaking, as I not an advanced deb user |
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| 20:01.48 | EdePopede | i never packaged anything, but since .deb files are nothing more than a specially designed .ar archive and i've always been curious.. ) |
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| 20:02.51 | tukta | so backports are applications no longer in the current "stable" distro? |
| 20:03.07 | EdePopede | they come from the future |
| 20:03.16 | EdePopede | repackaged for stable |
| 20:03.33 | Joit | tukta: i would just dload it, its allways newer on its page then the package, i only put it into a folder with the name of the version, unzip it and when a new one comes just delete the old |
| 20:03.33 | tukta | or they use older dependencies , hmm |
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| 20:05.01 | Joit | with an symlink on your desktop or a shortcut you can even specifiy the working folder, so it runs only from there. and tor is anyway designed to run on its own |
| 20:05.17 | tukta | so a backport is intended for folks using the previous distro eg. deb9 in order to use deb10 apps? |
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| 20:06.35 | tukta | Joit, 'runs only from there' , vs. what |
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| 20:08.58 | Joit | tukta: vs installing it to different folders |
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| 20:55.49 | legitkrillin | Hi everyone! |
| 20:55.57 | legitkrillin | sorry to bother you all |
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| 20:56.12 | legitkrillin | I have a stupid question is possible |
| 20:56.27 | annadane | legitkrillin, no stupid questions. |
| 20:56.33 | legitkrillin | I did a fresh install of Debian 10 on my laptop |
| 20:56.34 | annadane | i mean, there are no stupid questions |
| 20:56.37 | legitkrillin | all went well |
| 20:56.37 | annadane | so ask away |
| 20:57.07 | legitkrillin | but for some reason I can now see my swap partition in gnome |
| 20:57.24 | legitkrillin | I see the hdd icon with a padlock |
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| 20:59.34 | legitkrillin | so is this new thing? |
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| 21:01.50 | tukta | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:08.09 | tukta | EdePopede, how would I setup a cronjob for youtube-dl ? |
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| 21:21.44 | EdePopede | tukta: i'd set up one for a generic download script and then see how particular items fit in. like there's youtube-dl -U, but i install it to /usr/local (as usual). so it can't autoupdate itself. i checked its version against the http redirect address which includes the version number to see if there is an update. just an example. |
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| 21:23.15 | tukta | why is it that yt-dl is updated so often ? |
| 21:23.41 | sponix | tukta: likely because YT itself is always trying to block people from using things like that :P |
| 21:23.48 | annadane | because websites don't like scraping and often update to circumvent youtube-dl, or other reasons |
| 21:24.05 | EdePopede | not only youtube, ytdl knows about a ton of sites |
| 21:24.11 | sponix | If that wasn't the case. We could all just use wget and call it a day |
| 21:24.38 | tukta | oh yeah must be the ton of sites |
| 21:25.19 | annadane | it's getting close to the point i refuse to go on youtube anyway, so much utter garbage |
| 21:25.32 | annadane | they push commercial bullshit like nothing else |
| 21:26.29 | EdePopede | i *had* to stop using it on wheezy with my system problems, especially after they switched to that idiotic new design which is mostly proprietary html |
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| 21:26.33 | tukta | looks like there is another option https://support.torproject.org/apt/ |
| 21:26.42 | tukta | apt transport must be installed |
| 21:27.38 | annadane | a website attracts users by virtue of its being easy to use, discoverability is high, lots of choices? better ignore user feedback and chase the lowest common denominator |
| 21:27.40 | tukta | annadane, I've had it with Android, they seem to be scanning all my old photos, then doing some kind of GPS or wifi location to ask me if I want to 'review' the place from years ago |
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| 21:28.20 | tukta | need a phone OS that will run google play without all the data mining |
| 21:28.51 | EdePopede | want people's money? ask for a donation for something good. really? just tell them you hacked their webcam and have videos of what they did last night. |
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| 21:29.16 | tukta | don't think libreum can run google play apps |
| 21:29.30 | EdePopede | as long as a few billion people use youtube, they don't care about some million who ignore it |
| 21:30.57 | tukta | when you own everything already , what would happen to mozilla without G's generosity? |
| 21:31.17 | annadane | "see? we're popular" yes because people are there because of INERTIA and DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER ANYWAY |
| 21:31.31 | EdePopede | generosity. when it all started, IE was still a thing, right? |
| 21:32.26 | EdePopede | don't trust someone who puts your interests over their own. or what that rule exactly says. |
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| 21:34.08 | tukta | then there is Musk's satellite project |
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| 21:35.13 | annadane | if youtube today were the youtube of 2006 nobody would ever, ever use it |
| 21:35.21 | annadane | now that you're big, you get to ignore your users? |
| 21:35.22 | EdePopede | skynet |
| 21:35.32 | annadane | and claim you care? every internet company is now doing this |
| 21:35.38 | annadane | incredibly toxic |
| 21:35.53 | EdePopede | users are irrelevant. customers are not. as long as they stay customers ;) |
| 21:36.35 | EdePopede | welcome to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_America (and intl. in parts) |
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| 21:36.51 | EdePopede | remember running man? :) |
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| 21:37.36 | annadane | i was inspired by so much of youtube, now? it's late night talk show promos and low-level memes |
| 21:37.44 | annadane | but tell us about how much you care |
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| 21:37.53 | annadane | if you had another job you'd be fired |
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| 21:38.12 | tukta | is there a way to setup keybinding cut paste to terminal Ctl+insert or something |
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| 21:38.50 | tukta | EdePopede, burning man ? |
| 21:38.51 | EdePopede | tukta: i use shift+insert in xterm all the time |
| 21:39.13 | EdePopede | tukta: running man. with schwarzenegger. 80s. everything is controlled by the corporations. |
| 21:39.19 | tukta | what about copying |
| 21:39.22 | annadane | eww xterm. :P (though i probably should learn how to actually use it, but i'm not too fond of how xterm doesn't allow tabs) |
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| 21:39.56 | tukta | annadane, so whatdoyouuse? |
| 21:40.00 | annadane | xfce4-terminal |
| 21:40.03 | EdePopede | tukta: copy buffer. i never remembered the correct names, i think not even the complete concept. mark with the mouse, instert with midcick or shift+ins |
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| 21:40.26 | EdePopede | annadane: tabs? screen or tmux ;) |
| 21:40.50 | tukta | mark w/mouse but how to copy |
| 21:41.09 | EdePopede | i never really used anything than xterm, looked at a few terminals over the years, they all had someting i didn't like. or they missed someting i wanted ;) |
| 21:41.10 | tukta | EdePopede, is that a movie never heard of it |
| 21:41.47 | tukta | actually this is xfce-4-term also |
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| 21:41.56 | EdePopede | only now with that lenovo running live i started using it. pretty nice, but i have some issues sometimes |
| 21:42.15 | EdePopede | tukta: yepp. he had a life before terminato r;) |
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| 21:43.06 | tukta | wow terminal tabs, never knew |
| 21:44.06 | EdePopede | one nice day i decided that it would be nice to see program output live (something wasn't working as expected). so i started it in the terminal. still doing it for a lot of things, and with screen it is just one window |
| 21:45.27 | EdePopede | also makes using options easier. fire up a test profile for firefox, start something with a different config, open a file from the shell instead of the File dialog. |
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| 21:50.56 | tukta | going to paste 3 lines |
| 21:51.09 | tukta | sudo gpg --export A3C4F0F979CAA22CDBA8F512EE8CBC9E886DDD89 | apt-key add - |
| 21:51.09 | tukta | gpg: WARNING: nothing exported |
| 21:51.09 | tukta | E: This command can only be used by root |
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| 21:52.41 | abrotman | you either need to run it as root, or put a sudo after the pipe |
| 21:52.46 | tukta | maybe need to run wget as sudo as well |
| 21:52.55 | EdePopede | never |
| 21:52.58 | tukta | ran it as sudo already |
| 21:53.31 | abrotman | not according to the above |
| 21:53.44 | EdePopede | "This command" so run *this* command as root |
| 21:53.57 | tukta | root does not equal "sudo" ? |
| 21:54.35 | EdePopede | tukta: what do you think which command wasn't run as root but should? |
| 21:55.02 | tukta | does I need to add 'sudo' after the | pipe? |
| 21:55.15 | tukta | oh makes sense I guess |
| 21:55.18 | abrotman | wtf .. what did I just say? |
| 21:55.27 | EdePopede | or group them both |
| 21:55.52 | tukta | abrotman, you know like email, sometimes folks read sh*t but don't 'process' sorry |
| 21:56.48 | EdePopede | shorthand handling of boolean expressions ;) |
| 21:56.54 | tukta | pasted the thing from Tor's installation page fwiw |
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| 21:57.09 | abrotman | Tor can't be trusted! :) |
| 21:57.11 | EdePopede | the link you posted before? |
| 21:57.25 | abrotman | tor is already packaged in Debian |
| 21:57.51 | tukta | where they actually have this written # wget -qO- https://deb.torproject.org/torproj |
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| 21:58.28 | tukta | I am looking for the torbrowser |
| 21:58.47 | ozfalcon | Anyone know why chromium webbrowser is not in bullseye packages? |
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| 21:59.33 | EdePopede | they really wget as root. at least they only import to gpg and don't run an install script afterwards :D |
| 21:59.36 | tukta | maybe this isn't going to give it to me hmm |
| 22:00.15 | EdePopede | tukta: note the '#' in contrary to '$' |
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| 22:00.37 | tukta | yes I know, thats what I was saying |
| 22:01.01 | tukta | I need the keys anyway it seems to check the .asc against the .tar.gz |
| 22:01.40 | EdePopede | most similar tutorials i've seen use a lot of sudo instead |
| 22:02.17 | tukta | think there is any chance that by adding their repo I'll get the torbrowser? |
| 22:02.26 | tukta | before I apt update |
| 22:02.32 | abrotman | ozfalcon: probably a transition |
| 22:04.02 | abrotman | ozfalcon: I'd guess you can grab the binary package from PDO and just use dpkg to install it |
| 22:05.01 | tukta | PDO? |
| 22:05.29 | abrotman | ozfalcon: https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=chromium |
| 22:05.38 | abrotman | tukta: packages.debian.org |
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| 22:08.42 | subcool | do video drivers EVER work? |
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| 22:09.00 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:09.01 | subcool | i've followed 4 guides. - |
| 22:09.10 | abrotman | guides? |
| 22:09.18 | subcool | this time it atleast exited to a login prompt |
| 22:09.27 | tukta | abrotman, your saying torbrowser is at PDO? |
| 22:09.35 | abrotman | tukta: no, I was telling ozfalcon |
| 22:09.46 | subcool | yeah. "howto install nvidia on debian stretch" - each with a little extra info debian does not disclose |
| 22:10.12 | subcool | debian basis is of making sure to install the kernel headers - |
| 22:10.21 | subcool | debian's* |
| 22:10.42 | whislock | subcool: Enable non-free repo in sources.list, install nvidia-driver, move on with life. |
| 22:10.45 | subcool | this last one makes use of Xorg conf. and the nvidia.conf |
| 22:10.56 | abrotman | subcool: are you using the nvidia stuff packaged in Debian, or the one from their site? |
| 22:10.59 | subcool | whislock: i have - 4 reinstalls later |
| 22:11.03 | tukta | sigh ok |
| 22:11.08 | ozfalcon | subcool, nvidia drivers are pretty solid on Debian. Sure you aren't installing for a legacy video card? |
| 22:11.21 | whislock | subcool: You could have saved yourself four reinstalls by not following sketchy guides written by morons. |
| 22:11.23 | subcool | m940* |
| 22:11.35 | subcool | whislock: i started with teh debian guide |
| 22:12.03 | subcool | nvidia-detect says use ' nvidia-driver |
| 22:12.20 | subcool | Novue or whatever says that there is a conflict, and a reboot should fix it- it doesnt. |
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| 22:12.33 | whislock | My 1080 Ti says that you didn't follow the correct dosc. |
| 22:12.35 | whislock | Docs, rather. |
| 22:12.37 | whislock | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_9_.22Stretch.22 |
| 22:13.23 | subcool | Thats the one i followed |
| 22:13.54 | abrotman | the last one you followed, or the first one? |
| 22:13.55 | whislock | I'm not sure what you did, then, because those are the correct instructions. |
| 22:14.08 | ozfalcon | Ah, Is this a laptop using 940m? |
| 22:15.04 | subcool | ozfalcon: yes |
| 22:15.26 | subcool | whislock: i followed that one the second time.. and referenced it until i found a second one. |
| 22:16.40 | subcool | the only addiotn was to install a couple other program with nvidia and to run nvidia-xconf |
| 22:16.48 | subcool | those directions were from two years ago |
| 22:17.02 | whislock | nvidia-xconf hasn't been required for a long time. |
| 22:17.06 | whislock | Running that is likely to break something. |
| 22:17.44 | subcool | whislock: i dont doubt it- but i was just tring to make something VERY simple.. just work. im not even sure what to do right now other than start from scratch - again. |
| 22:18.15 | ozfalcon | That's probably your issue. I read (somewhere) that onboard nvidia graphics have custom implementation (depending on manufacturer) and recommends following manufacturer guides/drivers. |
| 22:18.22 | whislock | subcool: Stop overcomplicating it and screwing with things that don't need screwing with. |
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| 22:18.41 | subcool | agreed - |
| 22:18.42 | whislock | ozfalcon: No. nvidia GPUs, integrated or not, use nvidia drivers. They're all the same drivers. |
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| 22:18.54 | whislock | If you read that somewhere, that source should not be trusted. |
| 22:19.08 | subcool | i know the legacy drivers work, and the new ones dont |
| 22:19.18 | ozfalcon | whislock, No their not. If they were subcool wouldn't be having problems. |
| 22:19.19 | subcool | or whatever debian uses |
| 22:19.32 | whislock | ozfalcon: Correlation does not imply causation. |
| 22:19.56 | whislock | ozfalcon: What you're asserting is incorrect. Period. |
| 22:19.56 | subcool | maybe its because the Nouvu error? |
| 22:20.19 | subcool | whislock: what do you suggest? im not going nuts no this. |
| 22:20.28 | ozfalcon | whislock, Don't be so sure of yourself ;) |
| 22:20.38 | subcool | video driver have always been, they either work - or they f; everything they can. |
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| 22:21.23 | subcool | ill start from scartch again- unless you guys have any ideas. Im just tired of the loading time. Any Desktop environment i should stick toward or away from |
| 22:21.35 | subcool | ive been using cinnamin with gnome and xcfe |
| 22:21.45 | whislock | ozfalcon: I think I'll be quite sure of myself. Because I am. :) If you have anything similarly useless to say, pipe it to /dev/null. |
| 22:21.47 | humbot | 3 in 1 ! |
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| 22:23.12 | ozfalcon | Fine, solve subcool's problem & I'll believe you. |
| 22:23.23 | whislock | subcool: Also: Why stretch? |
| 22:23.39 | EdePopede | whislock: btw, i found a workaround for my UEFI boot issue: installer > grub > insert new entry (about 3 commands) > F10 > Enter. |
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| 22:26.04 | subcool | whislock: i tried 10.x but im haing 32asound issues, team viewer wont install, my wifi will work for all of 30 mins, and then i have to reboot to have internet again. Didnt even try to fix the sound issue. - i think that was the first time Nvidia install crashed and burned my install. I think virtual box is a pain to install too |
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| 22:30.12 | FreeParty23 | hi |
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| 22:31.12 | ozfalcon | subcool, Have you read this? https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers/Optimus |
| 22:31.44 | subcool | i thnk i have a computer ghost, because - for no reason - 3 reboots. I couldnt VNC into a computer, every window was transparent/clear. I JUST rebooted it again, (3 days later, no updates) - its working finally. -_- |
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| 22:35.48 | subcool | ozfalcon: i havent read that- i just read across it a bit. |
| 22:35.58 | subcool | it appears my card does have that tech involved. |
| 22:36.04 | ozfalcon | subcool, https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Identification |
| 22:36.39 | subcool | yeah- i've got my model |
| 22:36.53 | ozfalcon | Run this: lspci -nn | egrep -i "3d|display|vga" |
| 22:36.59 | subcool | GeForce 940M |
| 22:37.04 | ozfalcon | Note: if this lspci command returns more than one line of output, you have an Optimus (hybrid) graphics chipset, |
| 22:37.08 | FreeParty23 | I got the EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 |
| 22:37.09 | subcool | i used lscpi | grep 3D |
| 22:37.38 | subcool | the fact pages says i have optimus |
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| 22:38.31 | ozfalcon | Ok, Where you need to follow the guides there. I think that's why your having trouble with the standard nvidia drivers. |
| 22:38.48 | subcool | i was afraid of that |
| 22:38.50 | subcool | you go dude! |
| 22:39.03 | subcool | that was some great investigating u did there. |
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| 22:40.47 | ozfalcon | <whislock> would have had you try to install standard drivers to the end of time I'd imagine. |
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| 22:43.14 | subcool | ozfalcon: i appreaciate it. its cool. i woulda given up. lol. |
| 22:43.58 | ozfalcon | subcool, Fully read the Bumblebee & Optimus pages for more insight on how to get it working. |
| 22:44.54 | ozfalcon | I'm off to work now ;( |
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| 23:01.07 | subcool | what was the video file back in the day? like 15 years ago. |
| 23:01.14 | subcool | when mandrake was still around? |
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| 23:06.49 | B|ack0p | hi |
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| 23:16.14 | blackmajic | How do you allow an apache reverse proxy with OpenVPN? When the firewall rules for openvpn are configured, you cant access any website that is configured via ReverseProxy |
| 23:16.55 | blackmajic | Do you PRE/MASQ the ip range of the OpenVPN instead of the interface eth0/tun+ ? |
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| 23:22.53 | crn | what does installation status "idA" mean? |
| 23:23.11 | jim | B|ack0p, hi |
| 23:23.20 | B|ack0p | sup |
| 23:23.32 | jim | crn, installatiion of what? |
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| 23:23.55 | jim | crn, also what dist are you running/ |
| 23:23.58 | jim | ? |
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| 23:24.27 | crn | jim, debian 10. |
| 23:25.17 | jim | ok, what program (including any flags or arguments) produced that output? |
| 23:25.26 | crn | jim, it's in the listing from aptitude search. i is intalled A is automatically installed. what's d? |
| 23:26.13 | jim | not sure :) haven't used aptitude for awhile... let's see... |
| 23:28.17 | crn | jim, i've seen c for configured. but i can't find d. |
| 23:30.25 | jim | crn, it looks like... d is: the package will be deleted: it will be removed, but its configuration files will remain on the system. |
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| 23:31.26 | jim | crn, https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/index.en.html |
| 23:31.37 | crn | jim, thanks |
| 23:31.43 | jim | welcome :) |
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| 23:38.25 | anybudy | how can I check which package depend on specific package? I would like to remove python2, not sure if any packages rely on it... |
| 23:39.48 | EdePopede | anybudy: apt rdepends |
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| 23:43.57 | anybudy | @EdePopede, thank you, I check it seems nothing relies on python2 few packages, I will remove it. Fingers crossed... |
| 23:44.17 | humbot | wait really?! |
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| 23:44.52 | EdePopede | anybudy: there's also the -s option for apt-get |
| 23:44.59 | annadane | don't remove python 2 :/ |
| 23:45.41 | anybudy | I did -s first, there are 60 packages.. why these were not listed when I did apt rdepends... |
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| 23:47.01 | anybudy | I wont remove it, I will work python3 then... |
| 23:48.17 | annadane | *why* do you want to remove python 2? |
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| 23:49.45 | anybudy | I am trying to learn python, I just want to make sure I am working with the right version. |
| 23:49.58 | annadane | you probably have both installed |
| 23:50.03 | tom_work | What do I need to do to make a program you clone form git and run ./configure make to a debian package? |
| 23:50.16 | annadane | but a lot of packages are built against python, you can't willy nilly remove them |
| 23:50.24 | anybudy | @annadane, yes I have both. |
| 23:50.34 | tom_work | also, I have a question about forwardports |
| 23:50.58 | tom_work | is there an official way to indicate a package is a FPO not a BPO? |
| 23:51.06 | anybudy | @annadane, yes I understood that just few mins ago :)) |
| 23:52.32 | anybudy | @annadane, but I tried to check using apt rdepends, it really listed 4-5 packages, if I could reach proper output I would not try to remove it. |
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