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| 03:17.57 | lavaflow_ | I can't clone repos from github on debian because gnutls can't verify their public key, I think something is messed up with my trusted certs, can anybody suggest anything to try? |
| 03:17.59 | lavaflow_ | "fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/ytet5uy4/fzf-widgets.git/': gnutls_handshake() failed: Public key signature verification has failed." |
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| 03:18.10 | maxrazer | Does anyone know how to install the old libpng12? |
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| 03:18.49 | maxrazer | I would also think there would be a way to copy it to the local directory of the binary that needs it, or can I just copy the shared library file? I tried using the debian package and it fails to install. |
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| 03:30.22 | tsarompy | maxrazer: i had that same exact problem |
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| 03:30.39 | tsarompy | you'd have to make a frankendebian to do it, and i dunno if thats allowed to discuss here |
| 03:30.49 | tsarompy | i was able to do it using an ubuntu package :\ |
| 03:31.03 | tsarompy | youre not trying to build snes9x-gtk by chance are you? |
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| 03:32.39 | maxrazer | tsarompy, No, I have an snes emulator though. I'm trying to run, not build, a quake2 source port. |
| 03:33.11 | maxrazer | The binary had an empty lib folder and I tried putting the shared library there, but it didn't work. |
| 03:33.34 | tsarompy | have you tried getting the source for libpng12 and building it? |
| 03:33.57 | lavaflow_ | I found the solutions: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Desktop/issues/2483#issuecomment-401047201 |
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| 04:14.59 | tomreyn | medBot: really? |
| 04:15.58 | medBot | is there anything left |
| 04:17.21 | oofBot | yess really oofBot |
| 04:17.47 | JackFrost | oofBot: Could you consider parting channels such that you don't spam them? |
| 04:18.15 | oofBot | i will |
| 04:18.19 | oofBot | i realized |
| 04:18.21 | oofBot | late |
| 04:18.24 | oofBot | apologies |
| 04:18.41 | joepublic | may things go well with you in peace. |
| 04:19.10 | oofBot | thanks .. im indeed sorry.. i do agree this is spam. |
| 04:19.57 | oofBot | But atleast if the channels were populated. anyway a point is a point |
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| 04:21.48 | systo | anyone encounter a nic being called rename3 on a new install |
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| 04:31.45 | tomreyn | systo: that's usually a BIOS bug triggering it, reporting identical info for multiple NICs, causing NIC renaming for predictable network names to fail. |
| 04:33.00 | tomreyn | some virtualizations also cause this. |
| 04:34.07 | systo | any way to fix? tried creating a /etc/systemd/network/10-persistent-net.link with their individual mac addresses, worked to re-order them, but not rename |
| 04:34.36 | systo | i.e. eno1 now shows correct mac, eno0 shows as rename3 still |
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| 04:36.44 | systo | although I guess it wouldn't hurt to try and update the bios (lenovo P700) |
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| 04:47.38 | systo | well that was terrible... extracting the eltorito bios update to an .img then trying to copy it to a usb flash drive bsod'd my wintel box |
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| 04:54.51 | systo | alright, bios updated to the latest version, now to see what's goin on with the rename3 |
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| 05:06.48 | tomreyn | make sure you remove the "rename3" off /etc/udev/rules.d/*-persistent-net.rules |
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| 05:07.51 | systo | i'm actually gonna try a fresh reinstall first post bios (just installed 10 mins prior) |
| 05:07.59 | systo | but thx for that reminder 2 |
| 05:08.26 | systo | stupid lenovo bios update tool can wipe serial number from bios now |
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| 05:20.54 | systo | out of curiosity, for onboard nics is the order supposed to start at eno1 or eno0? |
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| 06:09.13 | Lantizia_ | what does it mean when a package isn't in sid? does that mean it won't be in debian 12? |
| 06:09.21 | Lantizia_ | it's in buster and bullseye |
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| 06:18.13 | systo | for buster, isn't the first onboard nic supposed to be eno0p0 and second eno0p1? |
| 06:18.39 | systo | i.e. what is the default name for two onboard nics if detected correctly? |
| 06:18.46 | jm_ | Lantizia_: specifically which package? |
| 06:18.56 | jm_ | systo: short answer, it depends |
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| 06:19.17 | systo | assuming intel gbe i210's? |
| 06:20.39 | jm_ | that doesn't play a role, see https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames |
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| 06:21.07 | jm_ | THE "PREDICTABLE NAMES" SCHEME paragraph |
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| 06:21.30 | Lantizia_ | jm_, https://packages.debian.org/buster/python-django |
| 06:21.58 | systo | so I know the first one should be eno1 |
| 06:22.12 | systo | what's the second given the new scheme? |
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| 06:22.33 | Lantizia_ | jm_, basically was trying to see if CVE-2019-19844 had been fixed in either python-django or python3-django-allauth |
| 06:23.20 | systo | oh geez that be a nasty for django |
| 06:23.41 | systo | thankful my sites still in dev |
| 06:24.17 | Lantizia_ | and nasty for mailman3 users! |
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| 06:26.22 | systo | so... my custom net config using .link files renames them to rename2 rename3 rename4 rename5, instead of eno0p0 eno0p1 and ens0d0 ens0d1 bah |
| 06:26.59 | systo | ok duh, I forgot to read the note below |
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| 06:27.19 | jm_ | Lantizia_: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/python-django shows it as being available in unstable, but it's quite fresh |
| 06:27.25 | systo | was about to NamePolicy=mac and MACAddressPolicy=persistent |
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| 06:34.48 | systo | guess en1g and enxg is descriptive nuff |
| 06:35.05 | systo | and *hopefully* unique |
| 06:36.17 | systo | xl for 40g, xxv for 25g, l for 50g and c for 100g |
| 06:36.38 | systo | best I could come up with :P |
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| 06:42.24 | systo | hmmm... so that doesn't work. Everything is now Rename# in output of ip addr |
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| 06:51.21 | nyov | Lantizia_: there will only be python3-django, python 2 packages are being removed or migrated as Python2 is EOL in 11 days |
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| 07:06.50 | nyov | oh crappers, claws mail packaging has removed the python plugin. now I *really* need an alternative. |
| 07:07.34 | jm_ | glad I use its perl plugin :) |
| 07:08.30 | nyov | damn good thing I already migrated to fetchmail+maildrop filter delivery mostly, and only use it as my gtk mail viewer |
| 07:10.41 | nyov | jm_: sadly I can't stand perl. Or I'd switch to use that |
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| 07:12.14 | nyov | I'd rather write a C plugin. but so far python still works. And I'll likely drop claws anyway, once the GTK3 port comes around. will have to see |
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| 07:31.53 | nyov | I wonder how MATE does it? Are they not on GTK2 anymore? |
| 07:33.06 | nyov | hm, apparently not |
| 07:33.10 | jm_ | it depends on gtk3 even in buster |
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| 07:34.57 | nyov | so where do I geta dark gtk2-like MATE theme then? I'm so missing darklooks in my gtk3 apps |
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| 07:42.02 | nyov | which mate package contains gtk themes? |
| 07:42.25 | H2Q | hello, I need owncloud client, and I downloaded its .deb package from the web repository, but I get a warning that it is not authenticated..is anyone familiar with it? is it safe, or is there a safe place to download ità |
| 07:42.26 | H2Q | ? |
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| 07:44.23 | nyov | oh hey, it's mate-themes. and it does depend on gtk2 themes. huh |
| 07:44.45 | nyov | well, that doesn't help at all |
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| 07:47.41 | jm_ | H2Q: and debian's owncloud-client is not good enough because? |
| 07:47.58 | H2Q | jm_ is there one? |
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| 07:48.30 | jm_ | H2Q: https://packages.debian.org/buster/owncloud-client |
| 07:48.56 | nyov | it's also not really a debian issue, client-server authentication |
| 07:49.01 | jm_ | there's also -cmd version |
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| 07:49.17 | H2Q | jm_ oh yes, sure, there is, but this is what I mean. during the install there is a warning that 'these packages cannot be authenticated...' that's my question |
| 07:49.34 | H2Q | during owncloud-client install |
| 07:49.42 | jm_ | H2Q: install of which package exactly? url for it |
| 07:49.47 | jm_ | !bat |
| 07:49.48 | dpkg | [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use https://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 08:47.20 | Foloex | hello world, I have 3 screens, one of them only works when I'm not logged in (gdm) then it gets "no input signal" when I log in. The screen is detected, xrandr sees the correct resolution and frequency but whenever I put DP-5 --auto all the screens flash and the third screen displays again "no input signal" |
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| 08:48.34 | Foloex | The only log that seems vaguely apropo is a bunch of "snd_hda_codec_hdmi hdaudioC2D0: HDMI: invalid ELD data byte" output on dmesg |
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| 08:49.09 | Foloex | though the screen is connected on display port and it's a sound over HDMI error... |
| 08:50.21 | Foloex | I updated the graphical drivers to nvidia most recent, I tried running nouveau instead but the error remains |
| 08:51.43 | Foloex | I think it start happening the day I disabled the screen, but I'm not sure |
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| 08:52.03 | Foloex | could the off parameter be stuck somewhere ? |
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| 08:54.29 | Foloex | I'm running debian 10 btw |
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| 08:57.40 | amerigo | anybody knows how to write to ipmi log? |
| 08:57.55 | amerigo | like doing direct prints? |
| 09:00.09 | amerigo | ipmitool sel add <filename> is able to write events |
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| 09:00.28 | amerigo | but sometimes in ipmitool sel elist i see normal text (in the case of kernel panic) |
| 09:00.46 | amerigo | when i dump events it has 0x00 0x00 0x00 hextets |
| 09:01.00 | amerigo | i am unable to write like this myself with ipmitool sel add |
| 09:01.14 | amerigo | anybody? |
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| 09:03.49 | jm_ | no idea about ipmitool sel add (I only used it to query HW monitor values so far), but man page says "Record added is of type 2" so maybe it's related to that? |
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| 09:04.24 | jm_ | or maybe writeraw can be used to achieve what you want |
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| 09:18.55 | np_complete | Hi I am trying to configure a VPN clien conf in gnome network manager, the connection does not use CA certificate, just name and password, I can not add the profile because the ui requires a CA certificate |
| 09:19.24 | np_complete | In Authentication Type I have selected "Password" |
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| 09:24.00 | amerigo | jm_: thx, that can work |
| 09:24.39 | amerigo | jM_: with readraw. Writeraw writes ipmilog in raw form |
| 09:25.08 | jm_ | amerigo: yeah, you can get idea how to write a file from that I suppose |
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| 09:30.15 | amerigo | actually writeraw writes ipmilog to file, readraw read ipmilog from file |
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| 09:30.36 | amerigo | so no hope here |
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| 09:32.06 | jm_ | ahh readraw is only a displays operation, not add |
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| 09:35.47 | blscoe | Hello. I would like to question about a cenario. I have a server with mail system, but it works only local because my provider block SMTP ports. I have a friend that have a public IP and no restrictions to send and receive emails with SMTP ports. I would like configure my postfix to send and receive all e-mails through my friend's server (redirect inbound and outbond traffic). For do it I going to install a postfix in my friend's server |
| 09:35.47 | blscoe | to send or redirect this emails for internet (outbounding traffic) and receive the emails by the internet for my domain and redirect to my server over another port than 25, like submission port (inbound traffic). |
| 09:35.47 | blscoe | I can redirect my MX entries to the Public IP of my friend. But my question is about what kind of configuration I need to use in my server and in my friend's server to do it. (Smarthost, Satelite?) |
| 09:35.47 | blscoe | I read about a similar service called reflection, but I would like to configure by myself in postfix. |
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| 09:41.41 | jolt | blscoe: You're right on track, Satellite is what it's usually called |
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| 09:42.35 | jolt | blscoe: or possibly Internet with smarthost |
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| 09:43.52 | jolt | I have set up a satellite many times, but never for inbound, but that shouldn't be much harder. When you get an incoming mail on your friends server you just setup a transport_map to re-route the emails for your mailaddress (or domain or whatnot) to point to your hostname and the port. |
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| 09:53.59 | blscoe | jolt: Thank you! So I will need configure Satellite in my server to outbound and configure transport_map in my friend's server to redirect the inbound traffic. I will read about transport_map. Do you know if can I redirect with transport_map without a MX entry? |
| 09:54.54 | jolt | blscoe: yes, like "@domain smtp:[somehost:someport]" |
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| 09:56.36 | jolt | blscoe: [] suppress MX lookups (per http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html) |
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| 10:04.28 | blscoe | jolt: Thank you, if you were a girl I would give you a kiss! ;D |
| 10:04.47 | jolt | blscoe: lol, well, happy xmas to you too |
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| 10:05.23 | blscoe | I will make some tests but now it's clearer the way |
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| 10:06.18 | blscoe | jolt merry christmas and happy new year! |
| 10:06.33 | jolt | glhf |
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| 10:07.59 | francis_murtagh | Hi, If I create a package of my project from 1 source directory, and then split this package by having multiple entries in the control file with corresponding .install files; will secondary packages which depend on the first package instead have their dependencies put in the build-depends of the first package? As in will my Core package end up with dependencies from its components which it doesnt really need to work on its own |
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| 10:21.03 | Janni | Hello. |
| 10:21.51 | Janni | Can anybody tell me what it means if curl exists with exit code 0 but without any output whatsoever? |
| 10:22.30 | Janni | Nevermind... just thought of adding a -v... |
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| 10:36.38 | wondiws | I have a new HP ZBook Studio G5. How do I increase the brightness of my display? |
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| 10:43.06 | diogenes_ | wondiws, what DE? |
| 10:43.24 | wondiws | I'm right now in Xfce |
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| 10:44.33 | diogenes_ | wondiws, add xfce power manager plugin to panel. |
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| 10:45.27 | wondiws | diogenes_, not a bad idea anyway, now I can also see my battery level? |
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| 10:45.41 | wondiws | oh yeah, there's a slider there, thanks mate |
| 10:45.53 | diogenes_ | np |
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| 10:49.34 | diogenes_ | if we do a poll on what DE is most widely used by Debian users, i think xfce wins. |
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| 10:53.09 | han-solo | kde ftw |
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| 10:55.38 | serverman | kde good |
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| 10:57.34 | b342 | Does anyone know what documentation I could see information about geojson that has such properties http://paste.debian.net/1121859/ , it's an extract from a system that had CKAN in the past and describe building shapes . |
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| 11:03.03 | talin | hello. is there a debian that comes with xfce? |
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| 11:05.53 | Haohmaru | talin if you install via the "netinst" image, you'll be asked which DE you want (if any), and xfce is an option there |
| 11:06.10 | talin | thank you Haohmaru |
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| 11:47.04 | simplicius | Hello |
| 11:47.19 | simplicius | I get this error: Class standalone Warning: Conversion unsuccessful! |
| 11:47.30 | simplicius | Does debian use imagemick? |
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| 11:48.12 | jm_ | you mean if debian provides imagemagick tools? yes it does |
| 11:48.15 | jelly | ,v imagemagick |
| 11:48.16 | judd | Package: imagemagick on amd64 -- jessie: 8:6.8.9.9-5+deb8u12; jessie-security: 8:6.8.9.9-5+deb8u18; stretch: 8:6.9.7.4+dfsg-11+deb9u7; stretch-security: 8:6.9.7.4+dfsg-11+deb9u7; buster: 8:6.9.10.23+dfsg-2.1; bullseye: 8:6.9.10.23+dfsg-2.1+b2; sid: 8:6.9.10.23+dfsg-2.1+b2 |
| 11:49.00 | simplicius | how can I veify if I'm using imagemagick or another package? |
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| 11:52.07 | humbot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.38 | simplicius | Installed: (none) |
| 11:53.52 | humbot | dpkg -S <command> , to see which package installed the command you are using |
| 11:53.52 | dpkg | There is no record of a <command> , to see which package installed the command you are using package |
| 11:53.52 | simplicius | If I remember correclty debian uses another package for conversions instead of imagemick |
| 11:55.12 | humbot | normally 'convert' is the command |
| 11:55.56 | simplicius | convert is based on Imagemagick.. |
| 11:56.40 | amerigo | jm_: if anybody is interested, I had to use ipmitool raw |
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| 12:09.36 | new | hi |
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| 12:43.31 | Miles8of9 | how can i test if my debian installation has 3d acceleration enabled? |
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| 12:44.55 | diogenes_ | Miles8of9, glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" |
| 12:45.19 | diogenes_ | also: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" |
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| 12:45.49 | Miles8of9 | mmm glxinfo not fond...?? |
| 12:46.14 | diogenes_ | sudo apt install mesa-utils |
| 12:46.18 | diogenes_ | and try again. |
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| 12:56.41 | aeon90 | I had wifi working just fine on Debian 10.1, then after a few days without really touching anything, except doing ifconfig wlp3s0 down, I can no longer do ifconfig wlp3s0 up, I simply get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill", however, there is no physical RF-kill switch on this laptop (a Thinkpad W541), how do I get my interface back up? |
| 12:57.32 | section1 | try with rfkill command |
| 12:57.40 | aeon90 | I don't have rfkill, and I don't have any internet connection |
| 12:57.46 | aeon90 | (due to no wifi) |
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| 12:58.42 | diogenes_ | aeon90, then use tethering and update your system, also install rfkill. |
| 12:58.52 | diogenes_ | !tethering |
| 12:59.02 | nyov | !ornot |
| 12:59.14 | diogenes_ | !nothing |
| 12:59.14 | dpkg | from memory, nothing is the most important thing ever. nothing |
| 12:59.38 | diogenes_ | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Android_tethering |
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| 13:05.36 | section1 | maybe too you can try ip link set waln0 up ... |
| 13:06.17 | section1 | weird that stopped working...wihtout any change |
| 13:06.44 | aeon90 | operation not possible due to rf-kill |
| 13:06.54 | section1 | :( |
| 13:06.57 | aeon90 | I installed rfkill, but the character device /dev/rfkill is missing |
| 13:07.05 | aeon90 | because I deleted it earlier, hoping that would help |
| 13:07.08 | aeon90 | I will create it again |
| 13:07.14 | section1 | ok |
| 13:07.24 | diogenes_ | aeon90, btw have you tried rebooting? |
| 13:07.35 | aeon90 | diogenes_, yes, multiple times |
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| 13:08.14 | diogenes_ | aeon90, you could also try NetworkManager. |
| 13:08.25 | section1 | the file : root netdev 10, 57 Sep 26 12:01 /dev/rfkill |
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| 13:09.16 | aeon90 | I need the major and minor for rfkill |
| 13:09.24 | aeon90 | MAJOR=10 E: MINOR=55 ? |
| 13:09.50 | section1 | try tht |
| 13:10.02 | section1 | that ... in my system is 10 58 not sure why |
| 13:10.13 | section1 | 10 57. |
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| 13:10.40 | section1 | netdev group |
| 13:11.07 | aeon90 | no such device and bad file descriptor (both errors) on both 10 55 and 10 57 |
| 13:11.12 | aeon90 | 10 58 worked |
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| 13:11.18 | section1 | ok |
| 13:11.36 | aeon90 | got it working again |
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| 13:11.37 | aeon90 | thanks guys |
| 13:11.42 | section1 | cool :) |
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| 13:17.37 | aeon90 | it would be nice with a wiki that has quick notes for how to get stuff done, I find most of the wikis unnecessarily verbose |
| 13:17.57 | aeon90 | e.g. to get tethering working, "enable tethering on phone, connect USB cable, you will get a new network interface" |
| 13:18.19 | aeon90 | if that doesn't work, then maybe some more verbose guide |
| 13:18.21 | aeon90 | no? |
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| 13:20.24 | section1 | https://wiki.debian.org/Android_Tethering |
| 13:20.58 | section1 | its a little outdated .. |
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| 14:09.37 | Akuw | hi |
| 14:10.21 | Akuw | i configured a local repo, was working fine |
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| 14:11.03 | wikan | good to you ;) |
| 14:11.10 | Akuw | but now i am getting E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2 : No such file or directory) |
| 14:11.45 | wikan | is it not a "non root" user error? |
| 14:12.04 | Akuw | Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) |
| 14:12.10 | Akuw | i am root |
| 14:12.21 | wikan | what command? |
| 14:12.29 | Akuw | apt update |
| 14:12.29 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, update is to refresh the mirrors |
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| 14:13.24 | wikan | maybe your disk is full? |
| 14:13.32 | Akuw | in /var/lib there is not dpkg dir |
| 14:13.34 | Akuw | no |
| 14:13.39 | Akuw | it is not full |
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| 14:13.58 | Akuw | 21% Use |
| 14:14.10 | wikan | ok, I have a /var/lib/dpkg |
| 14:14.29 | wikan | didn't you delete it? |
| 14:14.33 | Akuw | no |
| 14:14.44 | wikan | the best is strace apt, can you? |
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| 14:15.15 | Akuw | strace? |
| 14:15.22 | wikan | command -> strace apt update |
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| 14:17.48 | wikan | i did |
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| 14:18.11 | Akuw | fixed |
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| 14:18.24 | Akuw | i just create files requested |
| 14:18.32 | Akuw | touch status |
| 14:18.38 | Akuw | and created dpkg directory |
| 14:18.43 | wikan | ok, but apt don't read this file :| |
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| 14:18.51 | wikan | my apt dont |
| 14:18.57 | Akuw | now i can do apt-cache search package |
| 14:19.08 | Akuw | thanks |
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| 14:20.09 | wikan | ok, but the question is why it stopped to work and file has gone |
| 14:20.35 | Akuw | humm |
| 14:20.38 | wikan | apt calls dpkg, dpkg reads status file |
| 14:20.47 | Akuw | good question |
| 14:20.49 | tsvallender | Hi, I'm trying to install Debian on my laptop and want to have it encrypted. When I get to partitioning however, the encryption option simply isn't there. Any suggestions why this might be? |
| 14:21.25 | wikan | yes it is |
| 14:21.37 | wikan | but first you have to create partition for encryption |
| 14:21.56 | Akuw | lvm? |
| 14:22.02 | wikan | 1. create partition for boot |
| 14:22.14 | nvz | tsvallender: there is an auto encrypted lvm option otherwise you gotta to it manually |
| 14:22.46 | wikan | 2. create partition (all space you have) - format is called as I remember "ecryption volume" or "for encryption" |
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| 14:22.56 | tsvallender | nvz: that option doesn't appear. I've done so before and checked screenshots online but it simply doesn't come up. Guided, manual, but no encryption option. |
| 14:23.08 | nvz | tsvallender: what media are you using? |
| 14:23.11 | tsvallender | wikan: I'm fairly certain those options were not present either |
| 14:23.13 | wikan | it is format- like ext4 |
| 14:23.19 | tsvallender | a USB stick |
| 14:23.34 | nvz | tsvallender: which ISO is what I meant |
| 14:23.38 | nvz | specifically |
| 14:23.42 | wikan | it is everywhere |
| 14:23.49 | tsvallender | Oh, the main netinst iso from the homepage |
| 14:23.53 | wikan | what format do you have? |
| 14:24.01 | wikan | i use netinstall always |
| 14:24.26 | wikan | just create new partition and tell me what types of formats do you have on the list |
| 14:24.48 | nvz | tsvallender: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso that one? the link on the main debian.org page? |
| 14:25.12 | tsvallender | I don't have it in front of me now sorry. I can check back in later when I do I was just hoping it might be a known issue. |
| 14:25.15 | tsvallender | nvz: yes |
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| 14:25.32 | CaptainShell | What would make the installer put a touchpad in to "touchscreen" absolute position mode? |
| 14:25.37 | nvz | tsvallender: what did you use to make the USB stick? |
| 14:25.51 | CaptainShell | It's quite the thing to get used to! |
| 14:25.57 | tsvallender | nvz: Rufus on Windows |
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| 14:26.08 | nvz | tsvallender: which mode did you use? |
| 14:26.29 | wikan | ok, so encryption is a format next to other formats like ext4, etc. After you create this partition you can use "Configure encrypted partition" option from top of the window |
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| 14:26.55 | tsvallender | Not sure what you mean by mode sorry? The text based installer on the UEFI installer |
| 14:27.16 | tsvallender | wikan: Okay, shouldn't the guided option be present also? As it was definitely not. |
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| 14:27.50 | wikan | good question. I don't remember this guided option ;) |
| 14:27.53 | Akuw | what are the advantages of encrypt, only will be secure when is turned off right |
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| 14:28.09 | wikan | yes |
| 14:28.26 | wikan | when you loose your laptop |
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| 14:28.37 | wikan | or FBI came to you :P |
| 14:28.42 | tsvallender | Akuw: Would stop someone plugging the drive into another PC etc. |
| 14:28.56 | Akuw | yes |
| 14:29.29 | nvz | tsvallender: in rufus |
| 14:29.55 | wikan | Akuw, you should always encrypt mobile devices |
| 14:30.19 | wikan | Akuw, and PC if you sell drugs for example |
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| 14:31.52 | wikan | Akuw, but if you really sell drugs you have to sleep next to the plug too (^^) |
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| 14:45.08 | bipul | Have anyone here created VM for debian in vmware exsi using vmcreate.pl |
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| 14:52.59 | wikan | bipul, because nobody answered you, let me do this - i don't ;) |
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| 14:59.22 | nyov | Is it true that you could nest KVM inside XEN but not anymore in newer releases? |
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| 15:04.37 | nvz | nyov: https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Nested_Virtualization_in_Xen |
| 15:04.58 | nyov | nvz: yep, that's where I got that info from |
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| 15:05.29 | nyov | but I noticed, i should rather ask in #xen, so I did that just now |
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| 15:08.23 | nvz | ,i xen-system-amd46 |
| 15:08.24 | judd | No package named 'xen-system-amd46' was found in buster/amd64. |
| 15:08.30 | nvz | ,i xen-system-amd64 |
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| 15:08.32 | judd | Package xen-system-amd64 (kernel, optional) in buster/amd64: Xen System on AMD64 (metapackage). Version: 4.11.1+92-g6c33308a8d-2; Size: 27.6k; Installed: 45k; Homepage: https://xenproject.org/ |
| 15:08.39 | nvz | ,v xen-system-amd64 |
| 15:08.40 | judd | Package: xen-system-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 4.4.1-9+deb8u10; jessie-security: 4.4.4lts5-0+deb8u1; stretch: 4.8.5+shim4.10.2+xsa282-1+deb9u11; stretch-security: 4.8.5+shim4.10.2+xsa282-1+deb9u11; buster: 4.11.1+92-g6c33308a8d-2; bullseye: 4.11.1+92-g6c33308a8d-2+b1; sid: 4.11.1+92-g6c33308a8d-2+b1 |
| 15:09.00 | nvz | yeah.. def a question for upstream support |
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| 15:15.17 | wikan | damn |
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| 15:19.50 | rabbitear_g | winning |
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| 15:21.01 | cecchini | ckserv identify PSadQ130gg130GG |
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| 15:33.03 | bencc1 | how can I install previous version of chromium? I'm trying to install chromium 78 |
| 15:33.33 | jelly | bencc1: you'd have to get it from snapshot.debian.org |
| 15:33.53 | bencc1 | jelly: download manually? |
| 15:34.26 | jelly | visit the page, read how to use it |
| 15:34.40 | jelly | also, |
| 15:34.42 | jelly | !hold |
| 15:34.42 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that prior to <stretch> "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771. See also <hold list>, <unhold>. |
| 15:35.04 | bencc1 | https://snapshot.debian.org/package/chromium/78.0.3904.108-1%7Edeb10u1/#chromium_78.0.3904.108-1:7e:deb10u1 |
| 15:35.34 | CrystalMath | i'm going to package TECO for debian |
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| 15:36.19 | CrystalMath | there appears to be a file clash though |
| 15:36.33 | CrystalMath | TECO comes with a /usr/bin/inspect |
| 15:36.48 | CrystalMath | which is also provided by the unrelated libboost1.67-tools-dev |
| 15:36.54 | CrystalMath | how is this issue resolved? |
| 15:37.08 | CrystalMath | perhaps i could call the TECO one tinspect |
| 15:37.29 | bencc1 | jelly: thanks. reading how to use the snapshot |
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| 15:51.15 | nyov | a libboost package that comes with such a generic binary name? "inspect"? that should be forbidden :p |
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| 16:42.45 | f-a | million dollar question. I need to install debian on the pc of my mum, better I need to guide her to install it and I have no ssh access to the machine |
| 16:43.03 | f-a | what is the simplest, no-input option I have? |
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| 16:44.04 | diogenes_ | f-a, conference call. |
| 16:44.19 | f-a | diogenes_: and to start the installer? |
| 16:45.33 | diogenes_ | she points the camera to the pc screen and you tell her what to do. |
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| 16:45.48 | diogenes_ | i've done that. |
| 16:46.22 | f-a | yeah but do I need to teach her to put the .iso on the usb? is there a way to tell debian "start the installer on next reboot"? |
| 16:47.14 | diogenes_ | f-elive iso has installer icon. |
| 16:47.25 | diogenes_ | on desktop. |
| 16:47.42 | diogenes_ | super easy. |
| 16:47.45 | nyov | how does that even work |
| 16:48.00 | f-a | diogenes_: you got to help me on that, I don t have a DE so I never saw it. So she can double click it? |
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| 16:49.05 | diogenes_ | f-a, it's calamares installer. |
| 16:49.09 | CaptainShell | I got I get a whole set of useful packages installed by default? |
| 16:49.19 | CaptainShell | I meant to say, how do I get a whole set of packages ... |
| 16:49.30 | CaptainShell | thinks like "strings" "gcc" and "hexedit" are missing |
| 16:49.33 | diogenes_ | a kindergarten kid could use it. |
| 16:50.32 | ksk | CaptainShell: whats "useful" is rather subjective. |
| 16:50.49 | ksk | !tasksel |
| 16:50.49 | dpkg | tasksel is a program to select and install "tasks": a collection of packages for a system to perform a specific task (e.g. desktop environment, web server). Ask me about <standard task>, <server tasks> and <laptop task>. https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel |
| 16:51.07 | ksk | is the closes thing I can think of, but Id recommend just installing what you want |
| 16:51.10 | diogenes_ | f-a, https://averagelinuxuser.com/debian-10-calamares/ |
| 16:51.50 | f-a | thanks diogenes_ |
| 16:52.02 | diogenes_ | np |
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| 16:52.50 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 16:53.02 | johnfg | My upgrade to buster is doing fairly well. |
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| 16:53.38 | johnfg | I just got a message that my firefox is an older version. |
| 16:53.54 | CaptainShell | ksk: thanks |
| 16:54.12 | johnfg | Nothing came up after the buster upgrade to tell me that there's a newer version of firefox. Any idea what's going on? |
| 16:54.26 | ksk | ,v firefox-esr |
| 16:54.27 | judd | Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-updates: 60.6.3esr-1~deb9u1; stretch: 60.7.1esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 60.9.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 68.2.0esr-1~deb10u1; bullseye: 68.2.0esr-1+b1; jessie-security: 68.3.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-security: 68.3.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster-proposed-updates: 68.3.0esr-1~deb10u1; buster-security: 68.3.0esr-1~deb10u1; |
| 16:54.28 | judd | sid: 68.3.0esr-1 |
| 16:54.33 | ksk | johnfg: which version do you have? |
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| 16:54.48 | cecchini | 130GG |
| 16:55.11 | CaptainShell | Is there a reason why Seamonkey isn't available in the repository? |
| 16:55.31 | ksk | not sure CaptainShell, but isnt it like unmaintained for decades? :P |
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| 16:55.35 | ksk | ,v seamonkey |
| 16:55.36 | judd | No package named 'seamonkey' was found in amd64. |
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| 16:55.51 | CaptainShell | Last release was a few months ago |
| 16:56.03 | CaptainShell | or less |
| 16:56.18 | ksk | kk. Its not in debian repositories. |
| 16:56.23 | ksk | https://wiki.debian.org/Seamonkey |
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| 16:56.50 | johnfg | ksk: I don't want to start the old version, but if I did, I'm prompted to create a new profile. How can I find out the version with dpkg? |
| 16:57.07 | ksk | johnfg: "dpkg -l firefox-esr" |
| 16:57.20 | ksk | but its rather safe to assume you got the latest version if you upgrade regularly |
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| 16:57.45 | ksk | esr means extended support release or something like that, its like a "LTS" for browsers |
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| 16:58.26 | johnfg | irefox-esr/stable,now 68.3.0esr-1~deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic] |
| 16:58.52 | ksk | yup, thats the latest version. |
| 16:59.04 | johnfg | ii firefox-esr 68.3.0esr-1~deb10u1 amd64 Mozilla Firefox web browser - Extended Support Release (ESR) |
| 16:59.20 | CaptainShell | Is it the LTS version of Firefox that retains the classic plugin support, and the non ESR version that switched to the feature reduced Web Extensions? |
| 16:59.27 | johnfg | ksk: I wonder why I'm getting the error? |
| 16:59.30 | CaptainShell | I should say add on support, not plugins. |
| 16:59.37 | joepublic | love seeing that "amd64" just because AMD beat Intel to 64-bit x86. |
| 16:59.40 | ksk | CaptainShell: nah, its not like years old :P |
| 16:59.56 | ksk | its just easier for debian (and other distros) to keep track of things (or so I think) |
| 17:00.27 | ksk | !firefox-esr |
| 17:00.27 | dpkg | In stable, firefox-esr (Extended Support Release) will be updated to the next release when the old version is no longer supported by Mozilla; this is normally forced by a security update and often breaks many packaged extensions. In testing/unstable firefox-esr is updated after having matured in experimental for a suitable time. |
| 17:01.20 | ksk | CaptainShell: debian stable means "not changing", so it would be very inappropiate to break things by pulling in every new firefox version |
| 17:02.20 | Miles8of9 | can i ask aptitude what packages it will install if i install package x? |
| 17:03.05 | GenTooMan | !touchpad |
| 17:03.05 | dpkg | As of stretch, the synaptics driver isn't used by GNOME. If your touchpad stopped working in stretch, try installing xserver-xorg-input-libinput and removing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics; see https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/07/msg00266.html and https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
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| 17:04.03 | CaptainShell | speaking of touchpads, the installer put my touchpad in absolute position mode (touchscreen), and that was really weird! |
| 17:05.21 | johnfg | I went ahead and created (the script did) the new profile, and firefox seems to run fine. |
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| 17:05.51 | johnfg | Problem 2: openvpn didn't start the client automatically since the upgrade to buster. |
| 17:06.07 | johnfg | Started fine with no errors when started from the cli. |
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| 17:07.09 | buu | Cannot find terminfo entry for 'screen-256color'. |
| 17:07.20 | buu | The hell is going on here. /usr/share/terminfo/s/screen-256color-s |
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| 17:10.56 | johnfg | Any ideas on openvpn starting from the cli but not with systemctl? |
| 17:12.06 | bipul | Yes, nobody answered my question. |
| 17:12.54 | johnfg | bipul: what was your question? |
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| 17:13.36 | jaakkos | johnfg: I think systemd unit generator configuration changed for openvpn in buster. 'systemctl enable openvpn-client@name-of-your-config.service' (and optionally (re)start) should do the trick |
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| 17:19.51 | bipul | johnfg, It's related to VM{debian} on vmware esxi 6.0 using vmcreate.pl Please find the details in link https://pastebin.com/raw/HW6Lv3r5 |
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| 18:01.53 | johnfg | back after a reboot. |
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| 18:04.52 | johnfg | I did a 'systemctl enable openvpn-client@client.service, Still failing with this: http://paste.debian.net/1121911/ |
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| 18:09.34 | Habbie | johnfg, do you have /sbin/ip? |
| 18:10.05 | greycat | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jan 10 2019 /sbin/ip -> /bin/ip |
| 18:10.27 | greycat | iproute2 provides /bin/ip and that symlink, presumably for some sort of backward compat |
| 18:10.53 | Habbie | looks like openvpn benefits from that link :) |
| 18:11.50 | Habbie | that openvpn log message is about as useless as it could be |
| 18:13.49 | armin | well it says it can't call /sbin/ip |
| 18:14.10 | Habbie | yes, but such failures tend to, at least, come with a concrete errno from the kernel |
| 18:14.12 | Habbie | which is not shown here |
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| 18:14.44 | tds | could always systemctl edit it and override execstart to strace it I suppose? |
| 18:14.54 | Habbie | i would like an strace, yes |
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| 18:15.12 | tds | the openvpn systemd units add a bunch of restrictions, but I'm not aware of any that'd stop it calling ip (and it does fine on my boxes) |
| 18:15.41 | greycat | johnfg: are there any errors in dmesg that could be related, especially AppArmor or SELinux or GRsecurity or anything like that? |
| 18:15.44 | johnfg | Habbie: Yeah, and ip a doesn't show the address I expect, viz. 10.8.0.6 |
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| 18:16.16 | johnfg | greycat: I'll check, but I don't think so. All worked fine for all versions before I upgraded to buster. |
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| 18:16.36 | johnfg | I think it's probably something to do with the .service file. |
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| 18:17.09 | tds | i've seen it cause various issues with hook scripts, but not openvpn calling ip itself |
| 18:17.10 | Habbie | removing all restrictions from the service file (after copying it to /etc/..., like systemctl edit, or something, does, is always a good debugging step |
| 18:17.59 | johnfg | No message in dmesg. |
| 18:18.21 | greycat | I don't see /sbin/ip in https://sources.debian.org/src/openvpn/2.4.7-1/debian/openvpn%40.service/ or https://sources.debian.org/src/openvpn/2.4.7-1/debian/openvpn%40.service/ ... and I also don't see an openvpn-client service file yet |
| 18:18.22 | johnfg | It *does* start fine from the cli, with 'openvpn client.conf'. |
| 18:18.47 | greycat | ,file /lib/systemd/system/openvpn-client@.service |
| 18:18.53 | judd | Search for /lib/systemd/system/openvpn-client@.service in buster/amd64: openvpn: lib/systemd/system/openvpn-client@.service |
| 18:20.05 | Habbie | greycat, it's compiled in |
| 18:20.12 | Habbie | ./debian/rules:ENV_VARS := SYSTEMD_ASK_PASSWORD=/bin/systemd-ask-password IFCONFIG=/sbin/ifconfig ROUTE=/sbin/route IPROUTE=/sbin/ip SYSTEMD_UNIT_DIR=/lib/systemd/system TMPFILES_DIR=/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d |
| 18:20.34 | Habbie | greycat, some software tries to understand the kernel interfaces for all these things; openvpn takes a different route, where it knows about the 'local' tools for various OSes |
| 18:20.37 | Habbie | greycat, and calls those |
| 18:20.48 | Habbie | greycat, which may fail because it's not running as root at that point, for example |
| 18:21.07 | guestyle54 | mmm if it works from the cli with openvpn client.conf... |
| 18:21.13 | guestyle54 | do you do that as root ? |
| 18:21.29 | guestyle54 | maybe you need to prefix the ip command with sudo in the service file ? |
| 18:21.34 | greycat | so where the hell does /lib/systemd/system/openvpn-client@.service |
| 18:21.38 | greycat | come from... |
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| 18:22.11 | Habbie | guestyle54, there is no ip command in the service file |
| 18:22.35 | greycat | you don't need to be root to run /sbin/ip anyway |
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| 18:23.12 | Habbie | greycat, yes, but i cannot set an interface mtu with it as non-root |
| 18:23.16 | Habbie | greycat, or set IPs, add routes, etc. |
| 18:23.33 | greycat | Sure. But does that give you "could not execute"? |
| 18:23.45 | Habbie | well, that's the problem |
| 18:23.49 | Habbie | openvpn has thrown away the actual error |
| 18:23.58 | greycat | All I wanted was to LOOK at the service file, but I cannot find it on sources.debian.org. |
| 18:24.28 | Habbie | 'could not execute' means WEXITSTATUS(stat) returned 127 |
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| 18:25.05 | guestyle54 | mmm i think in conf you can set: iproute sudo /sbin/ip |
| 18:25.27 | guestyle54 | or something like that, anyway this should not be needed in debian with the debian package I think |
| 18:25.37 | tds | greycat: I suspect they come from upstream? |
| 18:25.42 | tds | or at least i've definitely seen them around in the openvpn repos |
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| 18:26.47 | guestyle54 | also... if you set that sudo thing in conf, sudo config will be needed for the openvpn user :/ |
| 18:27.17 | guestyle54 | in the past, (like 15 years ago) i had a workaround to create the tun device with permissions for that user |
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| 18:28.45 | tds | you need some _very_ careful sudo config if you do that, just seems like a terrible idea all the way |
| 18:29.14 | guestyle54 | yes, I could not recommend going that way |
| 18:29.22 | guestyle54 | if you did dist-upgrade... maybe you can try: save your client.cnf and certificates, apt-get remove --purge openvpn, install again... |
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| 18:33.42 | nyov | Switching from a 3.16 kernel to 4.9, my notebook doesn't shut off anymore on halt, so I'm stuck on 3.16. But that's getting a bit old. ANy ideas how to fix that? |
| 18:34.17 | johnfg | guestyle54: yes |
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| 18:34.53 | nyov | I'm pretty certain I fixed this before, though. Just can't remember how exactly. |
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| 18:36.17 | tds | johnfg: any chance of an strace? :) |
| 18:37.12 | johnfg | tds: Run it from the cli with strace? |
| 18:37.30 | greycat | you'd need to strace systemd itself, probably |
| 18:37.39 | greycat | just stracing systemctl isn't likely to tell you much |
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| 18:37.51 | tds | you should just be able to override the execstart line to wrap it with strace |
| 18:37.56 | johnfg | greycat: how would I do that for systemd here? |
| 18:38.26 | johnfg | tds: Ok, you're thinking the openvpn-client@client.service? |
| 18:38.32 | tds | yep |
| 18:39.01 | tds | you should be able to `systemctl cat` it to get the existing execstart line, then `systemctl edit` it to write your overrides |
| 18:39.12 | karlpinc | nyov: Maybe a kernel parameter? |
| 18:39.15 | tds | and make sure to do ExecStart= first, to clear the existing one set |
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| 18:42.00 | nyov | karlpinc: it was something ACPI related, I kept something from an older kernel, some datablob or whatever the heck it was |
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| 18:44.19 | johnfg | ExecStart=/usr/sbin/openvpn --suppress-timestamps --nobind --config %i.conf |
| 18:44.47 | johnfg | so, would I just put the strace here: ExecStart=strace /usr/sbin/openvpn --suppress-timestamps --nobind --config %i.conf |
| 18:45.03 | tds | you may need the full path, but yep |
| 18:45.06 | nyov | (I'll unpack the initramfs, maybe I put something in there) |
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| 18:46.30 | johnfg | And then where do I look for the output? (Obviously I don't know much about strace) |
| 18:46.41 | karlpinc | nyov: Might put a minimal amount of effort into seeing if there's a "new way". :-/ |
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| 18:47.32 | karlpinc | johnfg: Systemd tends to put anything sent to stdout into the logs. So, minimally, journalctl will tell you. It might also be configured to go into /var/log/syslog. |
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| 18:48.56 | johnfg | K, service file edited, will start it now, then look at those places. |
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| 18:49.51 | nyov | karlpinc: I didn't grok that. "new way" what? |
| 18:51.02 | karlpinc | nyov: Well, there might be something in the newer kernel that does magic so you don't need to fuss with your blob. Or whatever. I don't really know what the issue is so this is just a suggestion. |
| 18:51.14 | nyov | ok |
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| 18:51.43 | johnfg | My new line is: ExecStart=/usr/bin/strace /usr/sbin/openvpn --suppress-timestamps --nobind --config %i.conf, but it failed. |
| 18:52.20 | karlpinc | johnfg: With what message? (see journalctl or the fs based logs.) |
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| 18:59.11 | johnfg | karlpinc: I can paste it, but I think that systemctl didn't like the strace. |
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| 19:01.03 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/1121918/ |
| 19:01.03 | karlpinc | johnfg: *sigh* Maybe because openvpn usually deamonizes? ?? There's another systemd setting to allow for this.... |
| 19:01.05 | greycat | johnfg: is the original openvpn-client@.service file visible anywhere? |
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| 19:01.58 | johnfg | greycat: yes |
| 19:02.32 | karlpinc | johnfg: Maybe, possibly, add: Type=simple to the systemd config? |
| 19:02.41 | johnfg | greycat: /lib/systemd/system/openvpn-client@.service |
| 19:02.46 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 19:03.57 | tds | greycat: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/0bca1f0c is what I have on a buster box, if that's useful |
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| 19:04.09 | karlpinc | (Pasting the errors can't hurt. Otherwise how will we know?) |
| 19:04.12 | johnfg | karlpinc: would that line go under the [Service] section? |
| 19:04.26 | karlpinc | johnfg: yes. |
| 19:04.45 | johnfg | greycat: follow up on your sigh, please. Sorry to cause you grief :-) |
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| 19:05.08 | greycat | johnfg: I'm reading tds's URL now and hoping yours matches it |
| 19:06.50 | karlpinc | johnfg: If openvpn forks it might (possibly) also be helpful to the strace to tell it not to. (IIRC there's a config declartion/command line option for this. Could be wrong.) |
| 19:06.55 | greycat | so... it doesn't chroot (has WorkingDirectory= but not RootDirectory=). It DOES have a CapabilityBoundingSet ... so if that particular /sbin/ip command needs to do something that systemd has denied it, that could be a reason |
| 19:07.16 | greycat | karlpinc: are you just throwing darts at the man page? |
| 19:07.46 | karlpinc | greycat: Even better. My darts are all from memory. |
| 19:07.51 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/1121922/ with some strace... |
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| 19:08.31 | johnfg | greycat: Since this starts fine from the cli, are you pretty sure the problem is with a/the .service file? |
| 19:08.43 | greycat | It's the place to START. |
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| 19:09.14 | greycat | The obvious causes would be some reduction in privileges or environment when running via systemd as opposed to directly from the shell. |
| 19:09.21 | karlpinc | I'm just throwing darts at the strace. I agree that this does nothing to solve the actual problem. |
| 19:09.32 | greycat | that's why I was looking for a chroot or something like that |
| 19:09.33 | tds | that definitely looks like progress, and was exactly as Habbie described |
| 19:10.04 | tds | and yep, i'd add a -f so you can see what ip's actually doing |
| 19:10.20 | johnfg | I do have the original/stretch .service files that *were* under /etc in the backups I did before the upgrade. |
| 19:10.30 | greycat | and DO NOT change the Type= as karlpinc was saying |
| 19:10.53 | greycat | your service file was in /etc in stretch, not in /lib? |
| 19:10.58 | johnfg | greycat: so, you recommend going back to notify? |
| 19:11.19 | johnfg | greycat: I believe they're in both places? |
| 19:11.34 | greycat | curls up in the corner |
| 19:11.35 | johnfg | regardless, I didn't back up everything in /lib. |
| 19:11.45 | ksk | package shipped files are in /lib, you placed your own one in /etc |
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| 19:12.34 | johnfg | It was placed (passive). not I placed (active). |
| 19:12.36 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
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| 19:13.16 | FuriousGeorge | if i can execute a script at the commandline (with no arguments), shouldn't that be enough for it to also work in cron.{hourly,daily}? |
| 19:13.24 | greycat | No. |
| 19:13.34 | ksk | FuriousGeorge: cron does not have your users environment |
| 19:14.26 | guestyle54 | schedule it for next minute instead of test in the command line |
| 19:14.45 | karlpinc | Here is the stock openvpn-client@.service: http://paste.debian.net/1121924/ |
| 19:14.50 | karlpinc | On stretch. |
| 19:15.12 | ksk | is johnfg running stretch? :o |
| 19:15.16 | greycat | Hmm, that also has that CAP_ stuff. |
| 19:15.26 | greycat | but it's... shorter |
| 19:15.30 | johnfg | ksk: No, upgraded to buster yesterday. |
| 19:15.34 | ksk | johnfg: btw, we are not talking about running openvpn in a container, are we? |
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| 19:15.46 | ksk | anyways, you did check dmesg for apparmor related things already? |
| 19:15.54 | johnfg | ksk: no |
| 19:16.03 | FuriousGeorge | guestyle54: i don't have a cron.minutely. i can add it to cronttab and schedlue it to run every minute, but is that a valid test? |
| 19:16.21 | greycat | from stretch to buster, it added CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE and CAP_AUDIT_WRITE |
| 19:16.38 | johnfg | ksk: yes, nothing there. would anything related to apparmor also refer to openvpn? |
| 19:16.40 | FuriousGeorge | the contents of the file are just php /path/to/my/script.php argument |
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| 19:16.48 | johnfg | i.e., that's relevant? |
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| 19:16.59 | FuriousGeorge | if i add it to crontab i cannot keep that |
| 19:17.00 | greycat | johnfg: I asked about apparmor A REALLY LONG TIME AGO |
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| 19:17.23 | greycat | in fact I think it was the very FIRST THING i said to look for |
| 19:17.28 | ksk | johnfg: if apparmor blocks something, it will show up in dmesg |
| 19:17.29 | johnfg | greycat: right, and there's *nothing* from openvpn from dmesg. I thought I answered. |
| 19:17.35 | ksk | kk.. |
| 19:17.37 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 19:17.42 | greycat | WAS THERE ANYTHING FROM APPARMOR |
| 19:17.43 | guestyle54 | FuriousGeorge: in debian you can trow a cron inside /etc/cron.d/ and delete it once finished the tests |
| 19:17.43 | FuriousGeorge | i need to do the 0 * * * * root /etc, so is that a valid test, or maybe im not understanding what run-parts is looking for |
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| 19:17.50 | johnfg | ksk: greycat: with the openvpn. |
| 19:18.12 | ksk | check dmesg, remeber the last line. start your service, check dmesg again - is there a new line? |
| 19:18.22 | guestyle54 | FuriousGeorge: you could execute it only once, will be the same than executing once from the command line, but from cron |
| 19:18.23 | karlpinc | FuriousGeorge: That would run once an hour. |
| 19:18.51 | tds | hmm, https://paste.debian.net/plainh/4f5c702b is the difference I see between a stretch and buster box |
| 19:18.52 | FuriousGeorge | guestyle54: so just to be clear, im going to modify my file to be in cron format, (e.g. add 0/60 * * * * command argas (or so)), put it in crond.d anywhere, and see if it runs |
| 19:18.54 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/1121926/ |
| 19:19.03 | johnfg | I'd say nothing relevant. |
| 19:19.11 | FuriousGeorge | (not anywhere, just in cron.d) |
| 19:19.14 | greycat | Docker is involved. |
| 19:19.19 | greycat | ... |
| 19:19.46 | guestyle54 | FuriousGeorge: you were doing: php /path/to/my/script.php argument |
| 19:19.49 | guestyle54 | right ? |
| 19:20.00 | ksk | it might be he is just using docker, but openvpn is running on the host.. |
| 19:20.06 | greycat | yes, it might |
| 19:20.07 | ksk | johnfg: are you running openvpn inside docker? |
| 19:20.18 | FuriousGeorge | guestyle54: yes, the entire script is that one line |
| 19:20.19 | johnfg | ksk: nope. |
| 19:20.29 | ksk | I can tell you btw, that wireguard works fine for me on buster ;) |
| 19:20.46 | ksk | there is the whole story of it not being "stable" yet of course.. |
| 19:20.47 | FuriousGeorge | but if i just put it in cron.d, how will it know to run it by the muinute? i presume ill have to add cron syntax to the beginning of the line |
| 19:21.00 | johnfg | I ran docker on stretch also. |
| 19:21.09 | johnfg | Never interfered. |
| 19:21.17 | greycat | FuriousGeorge: "man 5 crontab" shows you the format for the numbers |
| 19:21.36 | guestyle54 | FuriousGeorge: then you can create a file /etc/cron.d/mytest with content like: 22 20 * * * youruser php /path/to/my/script.php argument |
| 19:21.44 | karlpinc | ksk: How do you get wireguard on buster, backport it? |
| 19:21.45 | guestyle54 | to run it today at 20:22 |
| 19:21.55 | guestyle54 | and delete that file once you see it's tested ok |
| 19:22.20 | johnfg | guestyle54: You're 8 hours ahead of me! |
| 19:22.47 | greycat | (to be clear, 22 20 * * * would run it *every* day at 20:22, not just today) |
| 19:22.55 | ksk | karlpinc: see the debian wiki, you get it from sid iirc. |
| 19:23.08 | karlpinc | ksk: Thanks. |
| 19:23.17 | guestyle54 | well, adapt the numbers and see the man 5 crontab as greycat said :) |
| 19:23.21 | johnfg | Any further ideas for me before I have to leave for 2nd job? |
| 19:23.34 | tds | johnfg: full strace output with -f would be useful |
| 19:23.40 | guestyle54 | the idea is to run it from cron insead of from cli (to know if it will owrk from cron) |
| 19:23.48 | guestyle54 | works |
| 19:24.55 | FuriousGeorge | guestyle54: if it works, i can leave it this way, but im just hung up on how this would help me diagnose cron.hourly, which (AFAIK) does not require the cron notation |
| 19:25.20 | guestyle54 | the environment will be the same |
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| 19:25.21 | greycat | cron.hourly is a directory full of scripts that are executed by run-parts once an hour. |
| 19:25.40 | greycat | you can see how they are run by doing grep hourly /etc/crontab |
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| 19:25.49 | johnfg | http://paste.debian.net/1121927/ this is back to notify, and running strace -f. |
| 19:26.33 | greycat | johnfg: you probably need to use journalctl -u openvpn-client@.service to get the full story. you're only seeing the last dozen lines or so. |
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| 19:29.10 | tds | oh oops, i'd been looking at the server rather than client units all along |
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| 19:31.47 | FuriousGeorge | seems like */3 * * * * php /path/to/script.php arg does not work in cron.d, in an arbitrarily named file like my_script (not dots) |
| 19:32.06 | FuriousGeorge | i also restart cron to be safe, systemctl restart cron |
| 19:32.07 | greycat | /etc/cron.d requires a username in field 6 |
| 19:32.26 | Habbie | you should have log messages telling you about that mistake, i think |
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| 19:32.53 | guestyle54 | (and /etc/cron.d/ file creation/deletion does not require restarts) |
| 19:32.57 | johnfg | ttyl gotta run thanks for the help |
| 19:33.25 | greycat | no crontab file modifications, creations or deletions require restarting anything, ever |
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| 19:33.54 | FuriousGeorge | given the username, it works now. i could just leave it this way |
| 19:34.22 | FuriousGeorge | im wondering why it wasn't working the other way though. my understanding is that run-parts should have just run it every hour without that much more complication |
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| 19:35.17 | greycat | if you place a script in /etc/cron.hourly/ it has to conform to run-parts's requirements about naming. it also has to be an ACTUAL SCRIPT, with +x perms and a shebang, not just a shell command in a text file |
| 19:35.40 | greycat | so, when you don't even tell us the NAME of the file you created, we have no way to know whether you used a name that run-parts will accept |
| 19:35.42 | FuriousGeorge | i had the +x, not the shebang |
| 19:35.56 | FuriousGeorge | name is just cord_check |
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| 19:36.09 | Habbie | is it on cron.d or cron.hourly? or are these two experiments that you're telling about us? |
| 19:36.12 | Habbie | *in |
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| 19:36.30 | FuriousGeorge | i made sure not to put dots in there, i read that underscores were fine. i was missing the shebang |
| 19:36.32 | greycat | hmm, ok, man page says underscore is valid. so it was probably only the shebang. |
| 19:36.49 | FuriousGeorge | Habbie: this was in cron.hourly, were it was not working |
| 19:37.05 | Habbie | FuriousGeorge, in cron.hourly, you don't put */3 ..... |
| 19:37.10 | Habbie | FuriousGeorge, in cron.d you do |
| 19:37.21 | FuriousGeorge | Habbie: i know, i added all that to test it in cron.d |
| 19:37.25 | greycat | he tried cron.hourly first, forgot the shebang, it failed, then he tried in cron.d, forgot the username, added that, and it worked |
| 19:37.31 | Habbie | ok |
| 19:37.36 | Habbie | thank you for the summary |
| 19:37.38 | Habbie | i missed that line :) |
| 19:37.39 | FuriousGeorge | what he said |
| 19:38.04 | FuriousGeorge | i think i like this way better anyway, tbh |
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| 19:45.28 | FuriousGeorge | thanks for the help guys! |
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| 20:36.38 | bencc1 | I'm trying to capture audio with ffmpeg on debian stable inside a docker container and getting an error: |
| 20:36.38 | bencc1 | ffmpeg -f pulse -i default out.wav |
| 20:36.56 | bencc1 | default: No such process |
| 20:39.23 | jhutchins_wk | bencc1: Figure out what the actual process name is. If the process is not within the container it's probably not going to work. |
| 20:39.44 | bencc1 | jhutchins_wk: I'm trying to capture sound inside the container |
| 20:39.54 | bencc1 | jhutchins_wk: how do I find the process name? |
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| 20:43.03 | jhutchins_wk | bencc1: I have no idea what you're generating the audio with or how it presents it. |
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| 20:44.45 | bencc1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:53.20 | ksk | bencc1: see man ffmpeg |
| 20:53.24 | ksk | "-i" input file url |
| 20:54.21 | ksk | if you want ffmpeg to capture your hosts soundard you will first need to pass that onto the container somehow I would assume.. |
| 20:54.32 | ksk | apart from if -i would be the right switch to do that or not |
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| 20:55.47 | bencc1 | ksk: I'm trying to capture the container audio, not the host audio |
| 20:56.01 | ksk | and what is "the container audio"? |
| 20:56.08 | ksk | a container has no soundcard, as its a virtual construct.. |
| 20:57.41 | bencc1 | ksk: a browser inside the container output audio and I want to capture it |
| 20:57.52 | bencc1 | it works in ubuntu. trying to use debian instead |
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| 21:01.31 | ksk | and, how are you doing that in ubuntu, technicly speaking? |
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| 21:05.25 | bencc1 | "pactl list sources" gives me list of sources in ubuntu container. |
| 21:05.52 | bencc1 | in a debian container I"m getting: Connection failure: Connection refused \n pa_context_connect() failed: Connection |
| 21:06.21 | ksk | I am using sound from containers on my host via networked pulseaudio, container<->host |
| 21:06.32 | ksk | you will need to set that up I suppose |
| 21:08.09 | bencc1 | ksk: that's not what I'm trying to do |
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| 21:08.33 | bencc1 | I'm trying to capture the audio that apps inside the container are producing. NOT THE HOST AUDIO |
| 21:08.52 | greycat | so NOT the microphone? |
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| 21:10.04 | bencc1 | no |
| 21:10.08 | bencc1 | :) |
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| 21:16.37 | hummingbee | i had to edit /etc/pulse/default.pa to get some stuff to work, |
| 21:17.04 | hummingbee | some modules are not loaded in debian by default |
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| 21:21.46 | bencc1 | hummingbee: do you know what modules? |
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| 21:23.53 | hummingbee | my use case was to make the headphone socket and laptop speakers work at the same time tho |
| 21:23.55 | [sr] | howdy |
| 21:23.58 | [sr] | small help |
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| 21:24.05 | [sr] | i have just one NIC |
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| 21:24.18 | cccccccc | My os is Debian Buster. When I reboot my computer I want it to run a program. My crontab -e I have: @reboot /home/discord/discord.sh In discord.sh I have: #!/bin/sh discord-irc --config /home/discord/config.json but it's not running on reboot. If I'm in the folder /home/discord/ and type discord-irc --config /home/discord/config.json then the program runs. |
| 21:24.48 | greycat | is discord-irc in your PATH? |
| 21:25.05 | greycat | also, what error do you get, either in email to your unix account, or in some system log file? |
| 21:25.20 | [sr] | and have eth0 with ip and default gw, but i need to add a second ip, that is 172.31.255.6 and it's on eth0:0, with a ip route add default via 172.31.255.1 dev eth0:0 table oni and ip rule add from 1.194.2.224/29 table oni, and ip rule add to 1.194.2.224/29 table oni |
| 21:25.42 | [sr] | works ok, just it's stale for 1 minute every two minutes, something is quite ok in my setup |
| 21:26.51 | cccccccc | greycat: what would be the log path for cron? |
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| 21:27.15 | greycat | "journalctl -u cron", but seriously, I weep for the fact that Debian systems are being installed without even local email working |
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| 21:31.57 | ksk | bencc1: I did understand you |
| 21:32.36 | bencc1 | ok |
| 21:32.48 | ksk | still, for apps to be able to "play audio inside container" you (To my understanding..) either need to a) pass-through the audio card directly (and thus disable the host to use it?) or b) set an environment variable for pulse inside container, to make it connect to the host |
| 21:33.06 | cccccccc | greycat: CRON[485]: (discord) CMD (/home/discord/discord.sh) |
| 21:33.20 | ksk | might be there is a way to run a "headless" pulseaudio/thing apps can give audio to inside CT, but I dont know about that |
| 21:33.24 | greycat | So it's running the script. That's good. What happens next? |
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| 21:33.52 | cccccccc | Not sure. If I run it manually with ./discord.sh then it runs. |
| 21:34.01 | greycat | What does this thing *do*? |
| 21:34.08 | bencc1 | ksk: I understand but that's not the setup I need |
| 21:34.09 | bencc1 | thanks |
| 21:34.16 | cccccccc | greycat: https://github.com/reactiflux/ |
| 21:34.23 | cccccccc | sorry |
| 21:34.26 | cccccccc | https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc |
| 21:34.42 | greycat | does it try to communicate with you in any way, like in a terminal or an X window? |
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| 21:35.04 | ksk | nodejs-based. eh ;) |
| 21:35.24 | cccccccc | ksk: unforunately |
| 21:35.41 | cccccccc | -unfortunately |
| 21:35.45 | greycat | How do you know whether it worked or not? |
| 21:36.00 | cccccccc | I'll see a connection on discord [and] irc |
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| 21:36.15 | greycat | I don't know what that means. Does it mean "Later, when I login and run FOO, I see BAR"? |
| 21:36.38 | cccccccc | The script runs the bin with the specified conf file all in one command line |
| 21:36.56 | greycat | Does it mean "It connects as a bot to server in Zimbabwe, and users see cccccbot join the chat"? |
| 21:37.04 | cccccccc | yes |
| 21:37.12 | greycat | One tooth pulled. |
| 21:37.19 | cccccccc | thank you dentist |
| 21:37.39 | greycat | Well, if you do not get LOCAL EMAIL then either set up email so cron can tell you what went wrong, or redirect the script's stdout and stderr to a log file, so you can read the log file later. |
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| 21:38.34 | cccccccc | thank you sir |
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| 21:44.38 | cccccccc | greycat: in my local email it says /home/discord/discord.sh: 2: /home/discord/discord.sh: discord-irc: not found |
| 21:44.51 | greycat | Yay! Error messages! And just as I thought, it's a PATH issue. |
| 21:45.00 | cccccccc | for the record I had local email setup |
| 21:45.03 | greycat | discord-irc is not in the regular PATH that cron uses |
| 21:45.05 | cccccccc | so be gentle dentist |
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| 21:45.48 | greycat | is discord-irc even a program/script, or is it some sort of function that only exists in your interactive session? |
| 21:46.01 | tharkun | Good $DAY I am trying to docker pull #image from hub.docker.com It seems that D-9 does not have docker. Am I right? |
| 21:46.38 | cccccccc | greycat: it's an npm package I installed |
| 21:46.45 | greycat | what does "type -a discord-irc" say? |
| 21:47.07 | cccccccc | discord-irc is /usr/local/bin/discord-irc |
| 21:47.27 | cccccccc | should I specify that path in the script? |
| 21:47.28 | greycat | either call /usr/local/bin/discord-irc explicitly in your script, or set PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH at the top of your script |
| 21:47.37 | cccccccc | thanks let me give that a shot |
| 21:47.40 | cccccccc | you're a fantastic dentist |
| 21:48.11 | greycat | if discord-irc calls other programs in /usr/local/bin then setting PATH=... will work and the other way will not |
| 21:50.30 | cccccccc | it's launching sorry for being annoying |
| 21:50.32 | cccccccc | thanks for the help |
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| 21:51.32 | tharkun | Disregard my above question docker is not within the regular debian repos and the docker packages is something entirely different to what it would be expected. |
| 21:51.35 | tharkun | :( |
| 21:52.16 | greycat | ,v docker.io |
| 21:52.17 | judd | Package: docker.io on amd64 -- buster: 18.09.1+dfsg1-7.1+deb10u1; buster-security: 18.09.1+dfsg1-7.1+deb10u1; bullseye: 19.03.4+dfsg2-2; sid: 19.03.5+dfsg1-1 |
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| 21:52.33 | greycat | ,info docker.io |
| 21:52.34 | judd | Package docker.io (admin, optional) in buster/amd64: Linux container runtime. Version: 18.09.1+dfsg1-7.1+deb10u1; Size: 52266.5k; Installed: 232352k; Homepage: https://mobyproject.org; RFH: #908868 |
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| 21:54.55 | bencc1 | I've added a snapshot repo with: echo 'deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20190813T000000Z buster main' > '/etc/apt/sources.list' |
| 21:55.21 | bencc1 | but the packet isn't found when running "apt-get install chromium=76.0.3809.100-1~deb10u1" |
| 21:55.27 | bencc1 | what am I missing? |
| 21:55.56 | greycat | so much effort. why can't you just download the one .deb you want by hand and install it? |
| 21:56.51 | bencc1 | greycat: because I want to be able to later change the package with a script |
| 21:57.23 | greycat | but... you can't... because your sources.list is locked down to this one snapshot one some random day in August... |
| 21:58.03 | bencc1 | greycat: I'm in a docker container so I can |
| 21:58.15 | bencc1 | anyway, that's what I'm trying to do not what you suggested |
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| 22:05.50 | tharkun | greycat: Thanks |
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| 22:30.36 | spacebug^ | writing to USB is very slow. It starts fast for a few seconds then goes down till it almost stops. dd/cp does not even respond to quit/kill command. It happens on both a USB-stick and an USB-harddrive. What can I do/try? |
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| 22:33.21 | somiaj | what usb protocol are you using, usb2 is slow (And usb1 is even slower) |
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| 22:33.49 | somiaj | the reason it seems to start out fast is it is writing to cache, and once the cache is full it writes to the disk using usb write speeds, you'll just have to wait it out. |
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| 22:34.04 | somiaj | (if you have usb3 capabile devices and machine, you may want to check why usb3 isn't being detected) |
| 22:35.12 | spacebug^ | somiaj: the devices is atleast usb2. Ports I've tried with are USB2 and USB3 |
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| 22:37.54 | spacebug^ | some output from lsusb: http://paste.debian.net/1121942/ |
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| 22:46.22 | spacebug^ | hum. Seem to be faster now. I shutdown my VM (KVM) |
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| 22:56.36 | binaryhermit | hmm, is there any good non-obvious reason, on, say, Debian buster, to install a backported kernel, if one exists |
| 22:57.02 | binaryhermit | I mean, I could see maybe if I had bleeding edge HW, but this is a laptop from circa 2009 |
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| 23:15.50 | ksk | binaryhermit: if you dont need features from a package from backports, do not install it. |
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| 23:19.33 | ixz | did setup.exe ever work ? does it need some 32b vc binaries or something? it fails at copy d: to c:\win32-loader, on any machine ive tried yet |
| 23:19.48 | ksk | ixz: setup.exe? eh? this is #debian |
| 23:19.59 | ixz | its on the debian cd |
| 23:20.23 | ksk | ah okay. I think it worked the last time I had a windows computer, its some years ago though^^ |
| 23:20.36 | ixz | ah k |
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| 23:21.19 | ksk | do you have a usb-drive handy? debian wiki suggest using https://rufus.ie/ to put the image on a stick |
| 23:21.25 | ixz | and any hints on installing on rare supported ware like my hp amd laptop ? last few tries did wrong-recognize the wlan card or not even boot, ..or.. |
| 23:21.30 | ksk | see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstall |
| 23:21.51 | ixz | i know the basics, i run unetbootin or rufus or whatever else and it mostly works |
| 23:21.52 | ksk | might be you need non-free drivers for the card to work |
| 23:22.00 | ksk | see debian wiki "wireless" section, google is your firend |
| 23:22.02 | ixz | i have now the bullseye-alpha1 installer |
| 23:22.04 | ksk | !unetbootin |
| 23:22.04 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 23:22.18 | ksk | ixz: nono |
| 23:22.25 | ixz | hm |
| 23:22.36 | ksk | if you want to install testing, install stable and then upgrade to testing |
| 23:22.37 | ixz | last time i tried a full kde + live it didnt boot at all |
| 23:22.45 | ksk | the "testing installer" is for, testing the installer - and it might contain bugs! |
| 23:22.48 | ixz | i hoped for the firmware one |
| 23:23.29 | ksk | the wiki I linked also contains a link to an installation media with non-free driver included should you need that |
| 23:23.31 | ixz | ill try this bullseye and if fails the normal one |
| 23:23.44 | ixz | yes the firmware iso images |
| 23:23.54 | ixz | i know those few debian pages in and out :/ |
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| 23:26.46 | ixz | i spawned kde once via wsl, it was so slow and not useable |
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| 23:29.46 | ixz | wish me luck i hope |
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| 23:42.25 | WoC | any suggestions on how to mount the 3rd track on a cdrom ? |
| 23:42.57 | ksk | WoC: as in audio track? |
| 23:43.03 | ksk | been some time I have used CDs :P |
| 23:43.03 | WoC | no |
| 23:43.09 | ksk | k, nevermind me then. |
| 23:43.24 | WoC | data, multiple tracks due to multiple arch types |
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| 23:45.54 | CpAj0 | hi after update to debian 10 i can't open link in any desktop app will prompt an error windows with the link and "No such file or directory" message |
| 23:46.01 | CpAj0 | what could be the problem? |
| 23:49.12 | WoC | CpAj0: broken link ? |
| 23:49.39 | WoC | I would right click on it and revie the properties |
| 23:49.49 | WoC | review |
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| 23:51.22 | CpAj0 | WoC, it happens also with https://www.google.com |
| 23:53.38 | WoC | open a terminal and see if you can open the browser from there |
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| 23:56.49 | CpAj0 | if i type firefox open the browser |
| 23:57.13 | CpAj0 | is possible that it is a bad cache from apps? |
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