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| 00:18.38 | Guest48 | Hi here, |
| 00:18.47 | Guest48 | Need your help! |
| 00:19.39 | dvs | !ask |
| 00:19.40 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 00:21.10 | Guest48 | I am on an asus vivobook x512d iam trying to install Debian buster but it block when it come to install discover! |
| 00:21.43 | Guest48 | No error messages |
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| 00:23.19 | Aebian | is there any solution to recover a debian encrypted SSD? I selected Windows on the grub menu and then Windows came up with bitlocker. Was about to enter the key but no everytime I plug in the Linux SSD in my laptop it won't go past the vendor logo at all. I can't even go into BIOS it seems |
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| 00:24.05 | Aebian | Windows seems to shut down the pc while the bitlocker key thingy was active and now I can't access the Linux SSD anymore it seems |
| 00:24.33 | Aebian | the OS'es are on two physical SSDs, so seperated |
| 00:25.28 | tomreyn | if you can't enter the uefi configuration menu this suggests fastboot ws enabled. |
| 00:26.53 | Aebian | well if I unplug the SSD WIndows loads. If I plug the Linux nVME SSD back in nothing loads at all |
| 00:26.58 | tomreyn | if windows can still boot you can hold shift while shutting it down and get additional shutdown options there, including one to enter the uefi configuration, where you can then disable fastboot |
| 00:27.13 | Aebian | and the laptop stucks at the vendor logo |
| 00:27.18 | Aebian | hmm I'll check that |
| 00:29.02 | tomreyn | generally, if you dual boot you should change windows configurations so it shuts down fully and not just do its default 'fast startup' (hibernation), and make it accept the UTC hardware clock. |
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| 00:29.53 | dvs | Guest48, are you installing over WiFi? |
| 00:29.56 | qqqR | hey |
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| 00:30.29 | Aebian | that's weird I held down the shift key and clicked shut down. It just did a shut down |
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| 00:31.37 | tomreyn | hmm, what i said referred to windows 10. but maybe i'm not remembering this properly. there's ##windows for windows questions |
| 00:32.18 | Aebian | I'm using w10 |
| 00:32.23 | Aebian | yeah |
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| 00:33.36 | annadane | my condolences |
| 00:33.44 | Aebian | that did it! tomreyn |
| 00:34.09 | Aebian | after holding shift windows did a full shutdown |
| 00:34.19 | Aebian | now I can access the linux ssd again |
| 00:34.45 | tomreyn | good. there's some way to make that permanent in windows. but... not here. |
| 00:35.07 | Aebian | yup |
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| 00:37.02 | Guest48 | dvs no I haven't yet the driver installed |
| 00:38.09 | Guest48 | And use the Debian DVD 1 Iso for installation without internet. |
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| 00:39.14 | dvs | !tell Guest48 about firmware iso |
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| 00:40.03 | asdFF | hey |
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| 00:40.44 | asdFF | My apt source points to stable branch. So whenever I do apt-get upgrade, it gets all the soft from stable, right? |
| 00:41.27 | asdFF | My question is, is it possible to update a single software from different branch, let's say from stable-sec? |
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| 00:43.54 | asdFF | anyone, please? |
| 00:44.29 | gry | you could use apt pinning, i guess |
| 00:44.34 | tomreyn | in almost all situations your apt sources should point to all the repositories for the installed debian release |
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| 00:44.54 | asdFF | gry: could you point me some example please? |
| 00:45.02 | gry | yes, debian wiki |
| 00:45.03 | tomreyn | rarely you want to point them to stable / testing |
| 00:45.25 | gry | https://wiki.debian.org/AptConfiguration |
| 00:45.39 | gry | however, i was not aware of stable-sec as a separate branch |
| 00:46.08 | gry | so please check this wiki page carefully to see whether it applies to you |
| 00:46.11 | tomreyn | does that exist? |
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| 00:46.43 | asdFF | So the idea is to put a high priority for branch which I'll be getting some software, and lower priority for branch for the rest of software? |
| 00:46.48 | gry | asdFF said "update a single software from different branch, let's say from stable-sec", that's why i was mentioning it |
| 00:46.49 | asdFF | that's how i understand that |
| 00:47.14 | tomreyn | yes, but i don't think "stable-sec" exists. |
| 00:47.36 | asdFF | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox-esr what's stable-sec here then? |
| 00:47.38 | annadane | i'll just mention you should use code names in your sources.list (buster, for example) and not branch names like "stable" or you'll get unexpected results when the next stable releases |
| 00:47.51 | annadane | !buster sources.list |
| 00:47.51 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Buster" has the lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main", and optionally "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main". See <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <buster/updates> <buster-updates> and "man sources.list". |
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| 00:48.09 | asdFF | e.g. I wanna have my old software as 'stable', but always got the newest firefox-esr (no matter if it's unstable or not) |
| 00:48.32 | dvs | !frankendebian |
| 00:48.33 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall> |
| 00:49.07 | asdFF | ok, so you mean it's gonna be a bad idea to mix packages like that? |
| 00:49.13 | dvs | yes |
| 00:49.43 | asdFF | so what should I do if I',m ok with having most of my packages as stable, but I need a few of them (let's say that firefox-esr) to be as newest version as possible |
| 00:49.54 | asdFF | install manually? |
| 00:50.11 | annadane | firefox updates itself so just download it from mozilla's site (i prefer tar to .deb but that's kind of up to the user) |
| 00:50.38 | dvs | asdFF, because those few packages from unstable will cause the base packages from unstable to be pulled in causing your system to become the unstable repo |
| 00:50.45 | annadane | debian stable is a *base*. you run newer stuff you care about and the default debian versions for stuff that's less important to you |
| 00:51.05 | asdFF | ohh, right firefox was just an example, but what about other software which doesn't update itself? |
| 00:51.05 | annadane | it means the *overall system* has stability, won't change suddenly underneath you |
| 00:51.21 | annadane | well, there's generally mailing lists that tells you when such and such program has anew version |
| 00:51.33 | asdFF | so even if i download a single unstable software, then dependencies for whole system will become unstable? |
| 00:51.40 | annadane | potentially, yes |
| 00:51.44 | dvs | asdFF, it doessn't matter if it updates itself. it was compiled with the libraries of unstable |
| 00:51.45 | joepublic | that's a yes |
| 00:51.52 | annadane | not for everything, but it's best not to do it unless you know what you're dong |
| 00:52.13 | asdFF | ohh, ok |
| 00:52.30 | JackFrost | Backports are generally better, as they're built against stable/backported libraries too. |
| 00:53.09 | annadane | yep, debian has official backports, but if something isn't in there, download/compile it yourself |
| 00:53.38 | annadane | or volunteer to backport something and help everyone |
| 00:53.38 | asdFF | ok thank you for the warning about breaking down my OS while mixing branches, didn't know about itt |
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| 00:54.14 | JackFrost | Or even request a backport, some maintainers would be willing if there's need. |
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| 00:55.02 | asdFF | ok guys! Thanks for you help :). I need to go now, cya & happy new year! |
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| 00:58.35 | annadane | i have no idea what people used to do before backports |
| 00:58.42 | annadane | i think they've been around since 2005? |
| 00:58.56 | annadane | they're really useful |
| 00:59.23 | joepublic | ./configure && make && make install I suppose |
| 00:59.35 | annadane | suppose so |
| 01:00.00 | annadane | i actually don't use any |
| 01:00.05 | annadane | not that anyone cares |
| 01:00.11 | annadane | though buster's still newish |
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| 01:23.06 | Hammerschlag | i think debian 9 was better than 10 |
| 01:23.35 | Hammerschlag | normal install routines bug me off |
| 01:24.05 | Hammerschlag | this missing and thats missing.. and theres no more ipconfig |
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| 01:26.15 | Hammerschlag | some packages are even not available in 10 |
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| 02:07.49 | tds | Hammerschlag: did you mean ipconfig or ifconfig there? |
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| 02:43.40 | glick | hi |
| 02:43.56 | glick | hi does debian have support for the latest nvidia drivers and intel network cards? |
| 02:44.06 | glick | are these easy to install? |
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| 02:45.34 | dvs | maybe and no |
| 02:45.57 | _Leviticus_ | To install nvidia on debian, open a terminal and perform "apt install nvidia-detect" --> once installed just enter nvidia-detect at the command line. It will show you what driver you need |
| 02:47.02 | _Leviticus_ | Now it being the latest driver from Nvidia, I do not know |
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| 02:49.30 | _Leviticus_ | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 02:51.42 | _Leviticus_ | https://packages.debian.org/buster/nvidia-driver |
| 02:52.12 | _Leviticus_ | nvidia-driver (418.74-1) is the latest according to the wiki |
| 02:52.43 | glick | thanks _Leviticus_ |
| 02:52.48 | glick | im new to debian |
| 02:53.03 | glick | coming from mint and ubuntu but tired of them |
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| 02:53.55 | glick | what distro should i run if i want access to pretty recent software? |
| 02:54.05 | glick | i mean what version of debian |
| 02:54.11 | _Leviticus_ | Debian is a good distro, just note that some of the packages may not be as new. But super stable. |
| 02:54.55 | glick | id trade a little stability for recent software |
| 02:55.09 | glick | im running a laptop, not critical hospital server infrastructure |
| 02:55.37 | annadane | i guess testing |
| 02:55.40 | _Leviticus_ | Buster is the newest stable release, Debian 10. However, you can download Bullseye, the testing release. It will have more recent software and in my experience pretty stable. |
| 02:55.58 | annadane | well, "download bullseye" |
| 02:56.29 | annadane | the recommended way to use testing is upgrade from (a minimal version of so takes less time and might avoid dependency conflicts) stable, not download the testing installer |
| 02:56.33 | annadane | !install testing |
| 02:56.33 | dpkg | Daily built <netinst> images to install <testing> are available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . The chance of the testing installer being broken on any given day is quite high. Instead, do a minimal installation using the stable installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Also ask me about <testing>, <apt-listchanges>, <d-d-a>. |
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| 02:58.15 | _Leviticus_ | Also, go to the nvidia website and look at the releases for linux nvidia drivers. It will give you and idea of what drivers may be available not in the Debian repos yet |
| 02:58.25 | _Leviticus_ | an idea blah |
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| 02:58.51 | glick | id like to run the latest version of darktable |
| 02:58.58 | glick | but it seems no distro lets me do that easily |
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| 03:00.52 | _Leviticus_ | is this available as a snap, flatpak or appimage? That can get you the latest package |
| 03:02.12 | _Leviticus_ | https://www.darktable.org/install/#3rdparty |
| 03:02.33 | _Leviticus_ | This site gives all information |
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| 03:21.00 | karlpinc | glick: Try arch linux. |
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| 03:40.40 | terr_ | test |
| 03:40.46 | terr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:41.06 | terr_ | That Laptop is running windows 7 only at the moment. There is 80 GB free. I want to back it up, then repartition, then install Debian Linux (in this case 32 bit) and set up Grub so I end up with a multiboot system. |
| 03:41.28 | terr_ | Last time I did this was over 20 years ago and while I have not forgot nuthin!!! I suspect the goal posts may have moved. |
| 03:41.50 | terr_ | Windows is already running. |
| 03:42.11 | terr_ | I also have a spare "twin" and its presently sitting at a GRUB command prompt. Last time I used LILO. I don't knwo any GRUB commands - why? Because I have not read the maunal. |
| 03:42.30 | terr_ | I _should_ be able to set up a dual boot system on the SD and insert it into the twin laptop and confirm it actually works as predicted. |
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| 03:51.26 | wonderworld | terr_: you shouldn't need to repartition. just run the debian installer. it will setup multiboot for you. |
| 03:51.41 | terr_ | Oh! |
| 03:52.54 | terr_ | I didn't know that! And I forget how I installed last time to a USB thumb drive. This time I'll look to get windows running on the SD and Grub should be able to boot it on the other laptop so I can confirm... then I can try the installer again |
| 03:53.24 | wonderworld | https://wiki.debian.org/DualBoot/Windows |
| 03:54.38 | terr_ | wonderworld, hey thanks. It saves me a lot of time |
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| 03:54.58 | wonderworld | np. the wiki and the forums are pretty good |
| 03:55.53 | terr_ | I will want tripple boot on 2 of my systems: Linus, Windows 7 and windows 10. I have been told I can run both 7 & 10 inb a VM. I have boot media |
| 03:56.48 | wonderworld | i run win in a vm only, so no idea if 3 systems would work |
| 03:57.06 | terr_ | heh. Says reformat. I don't want to do that. not on these laptops. I have spare partts for that. |
| 03:58.21 | terr_ | Well. Now I need to find out what UEFI and GPT are all about. This is a good start! |
| 03:59.20 | wonderworld | terr_: maybe try ubuntu or mint. i think they fully automate the process of booting windows from within the installer. |
| 03:59.51 | wonderworld | thought debian would do to but i haven't done this for a long time. |
| 04:00.27 | terr_ | no... I tried Ubuntu and I don't like it. I have never tried Mint. I started with Debian in 1998 and I like it. I'm a developer... its jsut I took a sabatical |
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| 04:01.05 | wonderworld | is see, so just read the wiki and you should be fine |
| 04:02.46 | terr_ | well I am reading on UEFI and it appears to me the manufaturer has to have it installed in the BIOS. I wonder if its there. How can I tell? These laptops are ASUS eeePC 1.6 Ghz Atom processors |
| 04:03.04 | terr_ | I expect to be installing Buster |
| 04:03.20 | wonderworld | eepc from like 2010? |
| 04:03.36 | terr_ | Maybe even older! |
| 04:03.44 | wonderworld | i don't think they have UEFI |
| 04:03.47 | terr_ | hell... not even a teanager |
| 04:03.52 | wonderworld | check BIOS settings for "secure boot" |
| 04:03.52 | dvs | UEFI is not something that can be installed: it's either there or it's not |
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| 04:08.21 | terr_ | Ya.. I gathered that. I need to find out if it is there... but not for these laptops. If they are using MBR and the old BIOS its fine. |
| 04:09.49 | terr_ | I am fading in and ouyt because I'm reading docs |
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| 04:25.23 | terr_ | wonderworld, this laptop has the option I can press ESC and it loads a boot menu. Would that imply UEFI? |
| 04:28.07 | karlpinc | terr_: Not necessarily |
| 04:29.32 | terr_ | okay.. I'm still reading and I'll assume UEFI is not available. I don't think it matters. I should be able to lift the MBR and free up something in the 1st partition where I can install GRUB. THen it shouldn't matter any more. |
| 04:29.43 | terr_ | And maybe the installer will do this for me. |
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| 04:55.40 | karlpinc | terr_: Consider using the unoffical installer with non-free firmware included. |
| 04:55.44 | karlpinc | !firmware images |
| 04:55.44 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 04:56.51 | karlpinc | terr_: If you don't have to worry about UEFI the installer can wipe the drive and make it's own partition table and set-aside mbr space for grub. |
| 04:57.20 | karlpinc | terr_: Hey, I installed debian on one of those. (Pretty sure.) |
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| 04:57.45 | karlpinc | IIRC they have broadcomm chips and getting the wifi to work was painful. |
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| 04:58.31 | karlpinc | (It might be easier on buster.) |
| 04:59.11 | terr_ | karlpinc, no. I want to preserve the existing install at this time. |
| 05:00.23 | terr_ | The reason I have multiple systems is they are so damn cheap and I want to be able to fall back on the original at this time. |
| 05:00.42 | terr_ | like I paid $50 bux each for 3 eeePC's |
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| 05:04.32 | terr_ | karlpinc, its late and I'm getting tired. I'm going to bede now and will pick this up in the morning. So far: Progress. THanks for the help. |
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| 05:42.46 | Guest99732 | I need help, debian automatically resets everything giving this msg @@@@@@@@@ and logouts from the current users automatically. it happens mostly when i am downloading files from the internet. :( |
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| 05:44.02 | Guest99732 | now i am pissed of, i was about 90% completed on that download. i had to re-download everything again. why its happening? |
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| 05:45.52 | Guest99732 | anyone available? |
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| 05:55.08 | Guest98455 | I need Help |
| 05:55.08 | Guest98455 | anyone online? |
| 05:55.25 | annadane | yeah, ask |
| 05:55.45 | annadane | oh, okay, same person |
| 05:55.50 | Guest98455 | yep |
| 05:55.55 | annadane | i don't know how to answer, someone else might |
| 05:56.22 | Guest98455 | it wasnt happening on debian 9 |
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| 05:57.34 | Guest98455 | its happening on 10, i dont know how. is there anything else i should have missed like downloading some files? |
| 05:58.21 | Guest98455 | and one more question, i am getting ACPI_ERROR AE_NOT_FOUND ERROR while booting. |
| 05:58.30 | Guest98455 | how to fix it? :P |
| 06:01.11 | annadane | you should probably just ignore that, most ACPI errors are ignor-able |
| 06:01.30 | Guest98455 | okay :D |
| 06:01.31 | annadane | they're excessively verbose and don't (usually) indicate a problem |
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| 06:01.54 | Guest98455 | yeah, just wanted to ask :p |
| 06:02.14 | Guest98455 | so, what about the another question of that error which occurs while downloading ? |
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| 06:03.23 | annadane | where do you see the @@@@@@@@@, in the console? what are you using to download? |
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| 06:04.58 | Guest98455 | no not in the console, it happens mostly when i am downloading files from browser. somehow it lags and then gnome will get logged out and shows that @@@@@@@ and resets it. and i have to login again |
| 06:04.59 | annadane | are you using like wget, having the console spit out a bunch of "@@@@@@@", and then terminating the download? or are you using firefox and having it happen? using strace may give us some ideas |
| 06:05.13 | annadane | oh, well, that's really weird |
| 06:05.29 | annadane | i have no idea how to diagnose that |
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| 06:06.18 | Guest98455 | yeah, it wasnt happening on debian 9, it happens only on buster. |
| 06:06.46 | Guest98455 | mostly happens when i am downloading like 1+Gig files |
| 06:06.58 | tomg | how much harddisk spae do you have free? |
| 06:07.08 | tomg | dpkg, disk usage |
| 06:07.08 | dpkg | wish i knew, tomg |
| 06:07.12 | tomg | dpkg, disk free |
| 06:07.12 | dpkg | no idea, tomg |
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| 06:07.43 | Guest98455 | its newly installed , full free :p |
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| 06:12.59 | Guest98455 | why ext4 somehow lags when i am coppying data from /home to sdb5 ? This buster version somehow giving me weird vibe man. |
| 06:13.33 | Guest98455 | or its because of gnome? |
| 06:13.39 | Guest98455 | that can happen right? |
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| 06:15.10 | hiya | Can someone please share this screenshot from their buster's default or fresh install? https://i.imgur.com/gambXLy.png |
| 06:15.42 | Guest98455 | ok wait a sec |
| 06:17.04 | Guest98455 | https://imgur.com/a/dsEDr3d << fresh install |
| 06:18.54 | annadane | Guest98455, idk, maybe run a memtest or something |
| 06:19.02 | annadane | i don't really know |
| 06:19.08 | Guest98455 | okay |
| 06:22.44 | hiya | Guest98455: thanks a |
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| 06:23.06 | Guest98455 | :) |
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| 07:08.03 | OneM_Industries | So, I run a small server using debian. I'm currently on Jessie, and would like to update to stretch. Any major stumbling blocks I should know about? |
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| 07:10.40 | toruvinn | OneM_Industries, /msg dpkg jessie->stretch |
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| 07:11.33 | mad_monk | I am trying to download the DVD ISO files for Debian 10.0.0 version - I generally find only DVD 1 to 3 and not the remaining. However the hash files mention about DVD 1 to 16 |
| 07:11.51 | mad_monk | Where can I find the remaining ISO's? |
| 07:12.08 | mad_monk | Any documentation available where I can find out what each one contains |
| 07:12.40 | OneM_Industries | toruvinn: Danke! |
| 07:17.20 | jim | OneM_Industries, first, you xhould bring your jessie to an uptodate jessie before changing your sources.list |
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| 07:18.06 | OneM_Industries | I have. |
| 07:18.44 | jim | ok, then probably you're ready to go... I would also consider backing up the entire hd first |
| 07:18.52 | OneM_Industries | I will, it's only 60gb. |
| 07:19.17 | OneM_Industries | Might also use this as an excuse to give it a larger HDD. |
| 07:19.28 | jim | have you considered adding a larger one exclusively for backups? |
| 07:20.23 | jim | well borg backup has a few ways to efficiently store backups too, you might consider that as well |
| 07:21.55 | OneM_Industries | Nah, there's nothing too important on it. |
| 07:22.12 | OneM_Industries | I might though. |
| 07:22.26 | OneM_Industries | I have enough storage devices floating around for it. |
| 07:22.41 | jim | well just so you can restore the whole hd should something go wrong |
| 07:22.49 | jim | also, |
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| 07:23.14 | OneM_Industries | Ok. |
| 07:23.31 | diogenes_ | OneM_Industries, also disable any 3rd party repos and proprietary drivers. |
| 07:23.50 | OneM_Industries | Ah, ok. |
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| 07:23.52 | jim | when you upgrade, go only to the next release, don't go 2 releases at once (so, 7-8, 8-9, 9-10, etc) |
| 07:23.59 | OneM_Industries | Makes sense. |
| 07:24.19 | OneM_Industries | diogenes_: So, stuff like Nextcloud and such? |
| 07:24.40 | jim | if you're going to stretch, it's good to read the stretch release notes |
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| 07:25.14 | jim | after that, if you're going to buster, read those as well |
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| 07:30.28 | OneM_Industries | Ah, good. The CPU in this thing is still supported. |
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| 10:00.39 | NetEcho | is there a way to get Debian to resolve actual local hostnames for mounting cifs via fstab I.e. //QNAP/share as opposed to //192.168.1.XXX/share ? |
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| 10:11.45 | Guest41 | hi, need your help! Iam installing Debian Buster on my asus and it is like it block when installing discover . |
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| 10:14.08 | jetscreamer | a better description of the problem might help |
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| 10:17.42 | Guest41 | And i type ctrl+alt+F4, i see that at the last line : https://pastebin.com/1MA19r1r |
| 10:19.12 | petn-randall | Guest41: Are you installign "discover" on an already installed system? And which OS release are you using? |
| 10:20.02 | petn-randall | NetEcho: That's possible, you need to set up a working PDC, I think, and also do some magic on the clients for it to work. |
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| 10:31.30 | Guest41 | petn-randall no i had windows before so it is a new install, iam using thant one https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
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| 10:35.58 | petn-randall | Guest41: And how are you installing discover? |
| 10:36.26 | petn-randall | I'm asking because I don't think you can pick single packages in the installer. |
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| 10:41.51 | Guest41 | non iam not installing discover manually, it's the installer before finishing the " Select and install software" part. |
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| 10:58.43 | Aebian | Hi, can someone point me out what I need to have in order to get a Qt theme working on plasma sddm? The error is https://i.imgur.com/svHN9Gf.jpg // I have Qt5 installed |
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| 11:03.10 | valdyn | NetEcho: that should be mdns, see /msg dpkg zeroconf |
| 11:05.10 | Guest41 | petn-randall |
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| 11:14.33 | Aebian | issue seems with all themes I pick |
| 11:15.45 | nlpqda | linux (Debian/Gnome) is killing all my motivation of using it because of the jerky motion on laptop's touchpad! I'm wondering if there is permanent solution for touchpad users who insist to not using mice. |
| 11:17.08 | Hammerschlag | i prefer a mouse on laptops |
| 11:17.35 | Hammerschlag | since touchpad will die... its rather some kind of a .. emergency reserve |
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| 11:20.29 | hanseat | hi |
| 11:20.53 | hanseat | I use crunchbang++ (debian buster), why is it not possible to use tab-completition when I type eject /dev... |
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| 11:24.51 | petn-randall | Guest41: Hmm, that is really weird. |
| 11:25.29 | petn-randall | Guest41: How did you prepare the USB stick? |
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| 12:14.15 | Bushmaster | hi how to join linux channel, it says invite only |
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| 12:14.29 | at0m | Bushmaster: #linux or ##linux ? |
| 12:14.34 | at0m | try the other |
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| 12:15.21 | Bushmaster | at0m, it says i am banned |
| 12:15.33 | Bushmaster | dont know why they ban me for |
| 12:16.26 | at0m | Bushmaster: maybe #freenode can help you out with that, they do network support |
| 12:16.47 | Bushmaster | jim, its Busmaster remember me? |
| 12:17.50 | Bushmaster | at0m, ` i could ask them, but i think what happened is somebody was sitting in my other machine cos it has Linux channel opened and since I was logged in but away from the desk, impersonated me and did something to the channel hence banned |
| 12:18.08 | at0m | Bushmaster: either way, offtopic here. |
| 12:18.25 | Bushmaster | at0m, oh yeah, almost forgot |
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| 12:18.59 | Bushmaster | at0m, can you ask linux people to lift the ban |
| 12:19.27 | at0m | Bushmaster: again, you're talking to the wrong people here. |
| 12:19.43 | petn-randall | Bushmaster: Ask in #freenode if you think this is in error. This is offtopic in this channel. |
| 12:19.44 | at0m | keep it up and your chances are getting slimmer |
| 12:20.02 | Bushmaster | oh yeah petn-randall understand |
| 12:20.26 | NetEcho | Bushmaster: you could also talk to Dominian who is the one who banned you yesterday |
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| 12:22.43 | NetEcho | or go to ##linux-ops and ask why you were banned |
| 12:22.45 | Bushmaster | NetEcho, I was not in my desk last night hence i think its one of the guy i knew use my machine sometime |
| 12:23.00 | Bushmaster | oh yeah NetEcho thanks |
| 12:23.18 | NetEcho | Bushmaster: check your channel logs and see what happened |
| 12:24.17 | Bushmaster | NetEcho, not sure how to do that |
| 12:24.36 | Bushmaster | i requested OP channel you provided |
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| 12:25.16 | Bushmaster | anyway, I am in my Debian machine, is it possible to transfer files to my Android phone from my Debian machine remotely? |
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| 12:28.19 | petn-randall | Bushmaster: You can transfer data via USB if you enable MTP on your phone. For any other transfer method you'll have to do some research what apps can provide other interfaces. |
| 12:30.07 | Bushmaster | yes, i was thinking of something like network transfer, via wifi but probbaly not possible |
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| 12:33.02 | at0m | Bushmaster: if you're running KDE, check out kdeconnect |
| 12:33.16 | at0m | that can do via wifi |
| 12:33.43 | Night_Elf | Bushmaster: There are several things to be considered. First that your wifi allows the devices to 'see' each other. Second that your debian box exposes the files to be seen somehow, eg. shamba shares, sftp, etc. And last, your phone needs a way to access said exposed files, like a smb browser, sftp client, etc. |
| 12:34.05 | at0m | Night_Elf: or kdeconnect.. |
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| 12:34.17 | Night_Elf | or that yes, sure |
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| 12:35.02 | at0m | if it's one-way from debian to the phone, an httpd on the lan could do, like nginx or lighttpd |
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| 12:35.26 | at0m | there's some python server that serves single file once, too, but i forgot |
| 12:36.19 | Bushmaster | Night_Elf, and at0m so I guess its very possible, i just do not know how |
| 12:36.40 | at0m | Bushmaster: we gave you some hints, now do your reseach |
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| 12:37.31 | Night_Elf | I have not checked for I don't have such needs, but there probably exist sftp client software for mobile devices. Maybe that could turn out to be the easiest, for you'd be connecting with that to the debian box, which in turn needs just the standard ssh/sshd |
| 12:38.31 | EdePopede | at0m, that one? https://www.afternerd.com/blog/python-http-server/ |
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| 12:41.48 | greatgatsby | just joined, so not exactly sure what the original question was, but if it's just quickly sharing files from a Debian box to a phone, I just: cd ~/Public && python3 -m http.server |
| 12:42.06 | greatgatsby | sorry if that's wasn't what was being asked |
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| 12:45.35 | Bushmaster | so many clever people |
| 12:45.42 | Bushmaster | so many big ideas |
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| 13:59.13 | carlosgonzalez | hola |
| 13:59.26 | joepublic | que tal |
| 14:00.34 | carlosgonzalez | amigo ando buscando algo de ayuda para instalar una antena atheros, sabes cual sera el canal adecuado? |
| 14:01.31 | carlosgonzalez | tengo una derivacion de debian en una distro llamada canaima |
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| 14:07.56 | carlosgonzalez | holaaaa, hay alguien? |
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| 14:08.35 | a0z | !based on debian |
| 14:08.36 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 14:09.07 | carlosgonzalez | ok english |
| 14:11.05 | carlosgonzalez | yes based on Debian |
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| 14:14.22 | carlosgonzalez | thank for information http://futurist.se/gldt/ |
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| 14:49.10 | myuser | How do I copy an LVM partition with GParted? I'm looking to copy it tp a new drive with Gparted. I have deactivated the LVM partition but cannot copy it or the extended partition that it's in. It no longer shows locked and have refreshed the view. |
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| 15:01.04 | ksk | myuser: gparted does not know about lvm at all. so imho, you just copy it.. |
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| 15:01.38 | ksk | and then have the system where you import it have lvm installed, and scan it. |
| 15:02.04 | myuser | ksk: Copy option is disabled. I think I have to use pvmove. |
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| 15:03.06 | ksk | I actually never used gparted, sorry. It might be an alternative to just copy over the data? |
| 15:04.55 | myuser | I was thinking that as well |
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| 15:26.33 | gabix | AVE !! |
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| 15:30.44 | ksk | myuser: rsync is your friend :) |
| 15:31.22 | myuser | ksk: and it verifies the result, correct? |
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| 15:33.00 | ksk | yes. do a 2nd rsync run if in doubt, it should then not transfer a single file (not needed if source is not changing, but..) |
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| 15:35.43 | plexasaurus | i setup xrdp on a debian desktop and on my fedora laptop I attempt to freerdp to it but as soon as I authenticate the session immediately disconnects. I've narrowed down that if I ssh into the debian workstation and kill the loggedon user I'm able to successfully rdp. additionally, when i try logging into my workstation later on , the session |
| 15:35.44 | plexasaurus | distorts and immediately logs me off. short of rebooting the pc to resolve it, i'm not sure how to solve. But more importantly, Id like to know why I can't rdp into the PC unless I kick off the logged on user. |
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| 15:59.38 | riezaizu | If I set the size of var (lvm) to 8G, why does df -h show it as 7.9G, whereas root set at 16G shows exactly 16G? |
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| 16:05.05 | JyZyXEL | omit -h to get the unrounded sizes |
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| 16:05.39 | valdyn | riezaizu: its the same accuracy |
| 16:05.51 | riezaizu | valdyn, where does the missing 0.1 go? |
| 16:06.05 | valdyn | riezaizu: its the same accuracy - its rounded to 2 digits |
| 16:06.29 | riezaizu | valdyn, right, but with an exact size of 8GiB, surely df would show 8G, rather than 7.9G |
| 16:06.56 | valdyn | riezaizu: so its probably not 8GiB, duh |
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| 16:07.12 | JyZyXEL | df reports filesystem spaces, not device sizes |
| 16:07.14 | riezaizu | valdyn, I used lvextend -L 8G |
| 16:07.25 | valdyn | riezaizu: so? |
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| 16:07.33 | riezaizu | valdyn, lvm would set it to exactly 8G |
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| 16:07.41 | valdyn | riezaizu: what is IT |
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| 16:07.55 | valdyn | riezaizu: you are comparing partition or volume sizes to filesystem sizes - its not the same |
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| 16:08.33 | riezaizu | valdyn, no. lvm sets var at 8G, resize2fs also sets the ext4 partition to 8G, hence the exact size of this logical volume is 8G. |
| 16:08.52 | valdyn | riezaizu: one is a logical volume, one is a filesystem |
| 16:09.05 | valdyn | riezaizu: the filesystem is *ALWAYS* smaller than the underlying volume |
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| 16:09.19 | riezaizu | valdyn, right, but if the logical volume is _exactly_ 8G, and the filesystem is _exactly_ 8G, how can df -h show 7.9G |
| 16:09.20 | valdyn | riezaizu: but then again, you can look at the byte count, just do that |
| 16:09.33 | valdyn | riezaizu: no, cant both be the same size |
| 16:09.38 | riezaizu | valdyn, then why does root show as exactly 16G, rather than 15.9G |
| 16:09.53 | valdyn | riezaizu: are you trying to troll me? |
| 16:09.58 | riezaizu | valdyn, what? |
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| 16:10.03 | valdyn | riezaizu: i already said thas part rounding error |
| 16:10.07 | JyZyXEL | space in the filesystem is also different from size of the filesystem :) |
| 16:10.48 | riezaizu | Ok, so df -h does not show the exact size? |
| 16:11.07 | valdyn | riezaizu: no, it is rounded |
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| 16:19.46 | jhutchins | riezaizu: Is a kilobyte 1000 bytes or 1024 bytes? |
| 16:19.54 | riezaizu | jhutchins, with lvm, 1024 |
| 16:20.26 | jhutchins | riezaizu: The correct answer is "it depends on what tool is showing the size. |
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| 16:21.14 | riezaizu | jhutchins, right, but setting an lvm partition to 8G means exactly 8GiB, not 8GB. resize2fs on that will then set the partition to 8GiB, even though resize2fs uses 1000 for KB |
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| 16:22.11 | valdyn | riezaizu: and the storage space on an 8 GiB sized partition is never 8GiB |
| 16:23.02 | riezaizu | valdyn, are you talking about the 5% reserved space on an ext4 partition? |
| 16:23.20 | annadane | -h pretty much has to be rounded, it only shows up to one significant figure |
| 16:23.22 | valdyn | riezaizu: no, reserved space is still space for storage, even if only root can use it |
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| 16:23.56 | annadane | and for a lot of people that's fine, they don't need more detailed |
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| 16:24.44 | valdyn | riezaizu: every filesystem reserves some space for some metadata |
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| 16:25.47 | joepublic | otherwise it wouldn't be a filesystem::more like a bag or bucket |
| 16:26.00 | annadane | 6 |
| 16:26.03 | annadane | ^* |
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| 16:29.10 | Hammerschlag | Do I need special drivers for USB Wireless Keyboard and mouse? o.o |
| 16:29.21 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: no |
| 16:29.31 | Hammerschlag | but they aint working |
| 16:30.20 | valdyn | !doesn't work |
| 16:30.20 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 16:30.30 | Hammerschlag | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth |
| 16:30.43 | Hammerschlag | Receiver is recognized by debian |
| 16:30.44 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: thats not a usb keyboard |
| 16:30.47 | Hammerschlag | it is |
| 16:31.03 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: no, its a bluetooth transceiver - to state the obvious |
| 16:31.18 | Hammerschlag | dont annoy me ... |
| 16:31.27 | Hammerschlag | Its the receiver for my Keyboard and mouse |
| 16:31.31 | Hammerschlag | I said their wireless |
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| 16:31.55 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: its a bluetooth transciever thats not to annoy you - thats quite relevant |
| 16:32.05 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: you need to pair whatever you want to use with it first |
| 16:32.23 | Hammerschlag | shouldnt be bluetooth |
| 16:32.30 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: just because something is called wireless that has many different meanings. |
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| 16:33.17 | Hammerschlag | i never had to pair them in Windows |
| 16:33.30 | Hammerschlag | looks like debian recognize the USB transmitter wrong |
| 16:33.43 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: one of those meaning can be bluetooth where you have pair the devices so it works. Another is like logitech that is decated. |
| 16:34.04 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: there is auto pairing with bluetooth that some devices hide in their driver. |
| 16:34.22 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: so it may not be wrong. |
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| 16:36.34 | Hammerschlag | hmm... how can I pair them ^ |
| 16:36.41 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: you can run lspci -k to see if that has a driver loaded |
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| 16:37.48 | Hammerschlag | seems like no |
| 16:37.59 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: sorry, its usb, so no |
| 16:38.06 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: my mistake.. |
| 16:38.22 | Hammerschlag | lsusb says its loaded |
| 16:38.47 | valdyn | Hammerschlag: nah that just enumerates devices, sais nothing about drivers |
| 16:40.05 | valdyn | !bluetooth |
| 16:40.05 | dpkg | Bluetooth is a wireless communications protocol (http://bluetooth.com/), about as secure as shouting. aptitude install bluez-utils; then run hidd --search as root. http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser http://wiki.debian.org/Bluetooth/Alsa . For support of Qualcomm Atheros devices, ask me about <ath3k>. See also <btusb>. |
| 16:40.37 | Hammerschlag | !btusb |
| 16:40.37 | dpkg | btusb is the Linux kernel's <Bluetooth> HCI USB driver, for supporting Bluetooth devices with a USB interface. Bluetooth firmware patches for Intel Wireless 7260 and 3160 devices are packaged for Debian since firmware-iwlwifi 0.39. |
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| 16:40.52 | jhutchins | searches in vain through the last hour's traffic for anything even slightly related to Debian support. |
| 16:41.03 | Hammerschlag | nais bot |
| 16:41.09 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: by the sound of it you don't have the manually that came with that keyboard. Some of the Microsoft ones when you open up the manualy they have setup instructions for OS X. IOS and Android that basically give you how to enter the pin code in. |
| 16:41.10 | seere | Hammerschlag: you don't need to pair anything with this combo. This is dedicated, not regular bluetooth. |
| 16:41.30 | oiaohm | seere: it depends on the version. |
| 16:42.10 | seere | oiaohm: no, according to VID/PID I own the same for years. |
| 16:42.41 | oiaohm | seere: I was revering to version of firmware. |
| 16:42.46 | Hammerschlag | MS Wireless Comfort Keyboard 5050? |
| 16:43.24 | seere | oiaohm: oh, I see. Nevermind. I speak for fw 6.33 |
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| 16:44.40 | Hammerschlag | E: Für Paket »bluez-utils« existiert kein Installationskandidat. |
| 16:44.53 | Hammerschlag | debian 10.. |
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| 16:45.40 | Hammerschlag | and bluez already installed |
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| 16:50.13 | Hammerschlag | ok, my new nemesis... bluetooth and debian |
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| 17:09.15 | joepublic | mine works fine |
| 17:10.13 | Hammerschlag | feel free to teamview that bluetooth mouse untill its embrassed and starts working |
| 17:11.30 | Hammerschlag | root@Mini-ITX:/home/andreas# hcitool scan |
| 17:11.31 | Hammerschlag | Device is not available: No such device |
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| 17:16.18 | Hammerschlag | aint the drivers load automatically after I plugged in the USB dongle? |
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| 17:18.28 | joepublic | I had to install a bunch of stuff as I recall now that I think about it |
| 17:18.44 | joepublic | firmware-linux-free plus bluetooth packages |
| 17:18.46 | sponix | Hammerschlag: Debian by default doesn't to "non-free" stuff anymore. So if your needed driver falls in that range, you are to track it down, and install it manually |
| 17:19.02 | sponix | joepublic: firmware Linux nonfree you mean ? |
| 17:19.19 | joepublic | No, I run debian main, no contrib nor nonfree, my bluetooth works fine |
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| 17:19.37 | joepublic | depends on what adapter you have I suppose. I bought the cheapest one in best buy. |
| 17:20.13 | Hammerschlag | firmware-linux-free is installed bluez is installed |
| 17:20.27 | joepublic | lsusb says "Bus 006 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)" |
| 17:20.28 | sponix | My Asus BT Dongle is something Broadcom, and it always seems to require extra |
| 17:20.38 | Hammerschlag | its Mouse Keyboard + Dongle |
| 17:20.42 | Hammerschlag | no regular BT |
| 17:20.54 | joepublic | Hammerschlag, what does lsusb|grep -i blue tell you |
| 17:21.32 | Hammerschlag | root@Mini-ITX:/home/andreas# lsusb|grep -i blue |
| 17:21.34 | Hammerschlag | Bus 001 Device 006: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth |
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| 17:22.48 | joepublic | this page says it only works with nonfree firmware: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Other-Linux-Discussions/B590-Bluetooth-adapter-not-detected-under-Linux/td-p/1432619 |
| 17:23.37 | sponix | joepublic: MS, not free and open source... NEVER lol |
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| 17:23.52 | Hammerschlag | microsh*t |
| 17:23.58 | joepublic | yeah. probably better to find one on h-node that works out of the box |
| 17:23.58 | sponix | jaw drops with surprise |
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| 17:25.34 | jelly | there are various other devices by VID 045E in Debian 10 kernel, but not that particular 0745 -- |
| 17:25.43 | Hammerschlag | https://www.saturn.de/de/product/_microsoft-wireless-comfort-desktop-5050-2048833.html |
| 17:25.52 | joepublic | see, there's that word again |
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| 17:26.51 | Hammerschlag | I really doubt its bluetooth |
| 17:26.58 | jelly | perhaps you can coerce hid_microsoft driver to try supporting it somehow |
| 17:26.59 | Hammerschlag | The website says its bluetrackt |
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| 17:27.51 | joepublic | "Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth" ? |
| 17:27.57 | Hammerschlag | + |
| 17:28.44 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: https://www.webopedia.com/TERM/B/BlueTrack.html BlueTrack is the mouse sensor tech of microsoft. |
| 17:28.59 | Hammerschlag | o.o |
| 17:29.00 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: so not communication stuff. |
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| 17:29.49 | joepublic | wonder would that mouse connect to a standard bluetooth dongle |
| 17:30.03 | Hammerschlag | dont know |
| 17:30.31 | Hammerschlag | dont think so... never found these devices on my logitech bluetooth dongle |
| 17:30.58 | joepublic | so that's probably a no I guess |
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| 17:31.52 | Hammerschlag | but when its supported on MacOSX, it should work on any linux too |
| 17:32.04 | sponix | Hammerschlag: I'd recommend adding the nonfree and contrib to your sources, installing the nonfree firmware -- and give it another try |
| 17:32.05 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: not a good theory. |
| 17:32.05 | Hammerschlag | hid_microsoft |
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| 17:32.23 | Hammerschlag | allready added nonfree and contrib |
| 17:32.36 | oiaohm | Hammerschlag: Linux and MacOS X does have major differences in support at times. |
| 17:32.37 | sponix | Hammerschlag: and install the nonfree firmware blobs ? |
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| 17:33.19 | Hammerschlag | sponix: nope, which one? :D |
| 17:33.51 | sponix | Hammerschlag: I'd try booting to the GUI Live Installer of the Debian non-free ISO also.. OR even trying MX Linux/Mint/etc to see if it function in their live environments |
| 17:34.01 | sponix | Hammerschlag: I wanna say Linux-firmware-nonfree |
| 17:34.20 | sponix | Hammerschlag: Let me have a look at a package manager for a second |
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| 17:37.03 | sponix | Hammerschlag: see if you have bluez-firmware and firmware-misc-nonfree |
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| 17:37.22 | sponix | dpkg bluez-firmware |
| 17:37.23 | dpkg | no idea, sponix |
| 17:37.38 | sponix | I suck at that bot |
| 17:37.49 | Hammerschlag | !bluez-firmware |
| 17:38.03 | joepublic | practice first with /msg dpkg my-guess -- then request it in the channel like a badass |
| 17:38.07 | sponix | !dpkg bluez-firmware |
| 17:38.10 | Hammerschlag | anyway bluez-firmware wasnt installed |
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| 17:39.20 | sponix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.26 | sponix | I have those two from the backports |
| 17:39.30 | joepublic | dpkg: btusb |
| 17:39.30 | dpkg | btusb is the Linux kernel's <Bluetooth> HCI USB driver, for supporting Bluetooth devices with a USB interface. Bluetooth firmware patches for Intel Wireless 7260 and 3160 devices are packaged for Debian since firmware-iwlwifi 0.39. |
| 17:39.55 | sponix | joepublic: good find :) |
| 17:41.04 | Hammerschlag | i even got gnome-bluetooth installed... seems like its really not supported by any linux |
| 17:41.37 | joepublic | *doesn't support any linux |
| 17:41.47 | Hammerschlag | im german native |
| 17:41.58 | Hammerschlag | so.... atleast you understand me |
| 17:42.21 | joepublic | I just mean that the issue is that the device is probably designed for windows, rather than the issue being linux doesn't support it as such |
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| 17:42.38 | joepublic | your english is perfect as far as I can see, you are better with it than some native speakers I know |
| 17:42.48 | Ede|Popede | uh. gdi crap still a thing? |
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| 17:44.41 | joepublic | and my german does not extend much beyond "99 luftballons ihrem weg zum horizont" |
| 17:44.43 | sponix | Hammerschlag: if time permits trying doing a Live USB stick of some of those other Linux flavors and see if any make it work out of the box. If so, then we at least know it _is_ possible |
| 17:44.57 | sponix | joepublic: great song though ;) |
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| 17:46.54 | Hammerschlag | would be possible if the german SWAT will gimme my PC back |
| 17:47.04 | Hammerschlag | im @ mini-itx |
| 17:47.38 | Hammerschlag | im not that smart building a live USB stick from Debian |
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| 17:49.28 | Ede|Popede | cp or dd ;) |
| 17:49.34 | Hammerschlag | Rufus and YUMI are windows tools ^ |
| 17:49.34 | sponix | Hammerschlag: snag the tool from the website ether.io ... snag the Linux ISO image you would like to try ... point etcher at the stick with the image, and click go |
| 17:49.56 | sponix | Ede|Popede: dd is the real way to go, but a lot of folks are afraid of it |
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| 17:50.49 | Ede|Popede | you can nuke your data, sure. the first cut is the deepest or so |
| 17:50.58 | sponix | ether.io tool give you a nice little GUI frontend. And it works on Mac, Linux, and Windows all the same (different packages to do so) |
| 17:51.30 | Hammerschlag | I bet Pope is german too :3 |
| 17:51.34 | sponix | Ede|Popede: I've been doing this since 1995/1996 or so -- made about every mistake there is by now |
| 17:51.37 | Hammerschlag | Ok, I'll give it a try |
| 17:51.51 | sponix | its all in good fun |
| 17:52.19 | Ede|Popede | just to be on the safe side i look into syslog after inserting the stick. gives me the drive letter, that's all i need to know. |
| 17:52.26 | Ede|Popede | Hammerschlag: ach, echt? :D |
| 17:52.59 | Hammerschlag | I am good |
| 17:53.28 | Ede|Popede | gooder than good! |
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| 17:54.49 | Hammerschlag | well... 1 more beer and I fear destroying my beautiful debian setup |
| 17:54.51 | Hammerschlag | :D |
| 17:54.53 | Ede|Popede | i still want to find a way to put some ISOs (including buster and live and some other stuff und yes, memtest86+) to a stick with grub (EFI and BIOS of course) |
| 17:55.22 | Ede|Popede | something like c´t has from time to time... |
| 17:56.22 | Hammerschlag | @Popede |
| 17:56.29 | Hammerschlag | have you ever tried YUMI ? |
| 17:56.34 | Hammerschlag | no, YAMI |
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| 17:56.47 | Hammerschlag | Yet another multi Iso linux pen drive... idk |
| 17:57.26 | Ede|Popede | the one that has been renamed years ago? if yes, then yes. i thought i'd have a multiboot stick somewhere, but doesn't seem so |
| 17:57.30 | Hammerschlag | i got 64 gb USB stick with windows 10, debian 10, mem86+ hiren boot cd |
| 17:57.53 | Hammerschlag | but just the installers |
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| 17:58.14 | jim | the installers can do a lot though |
| 17:58.28 | Hammerschlag | knoppix even |
| 17:58.48 | Ede|Popede | bought 1 128GB some time ago, around 10€, not that i would really need it. but i just couldn't resist :D |
| 17:59.04 | sponix | Ede|Popede: you in the US ? |
| 17:59.08 | Hammerschlag | germany |
| 17:59.15 | Hammerschlag | US and ³ |
| 17:59.17 | Hammerschlag | €* |
| 17:59.28 | Ede|Popede | and i never had the full disk set provided by jimd^jigdo. finally time to do it. |
| 17:59.46 | Ede|Popede | sponix: what Hammerschlag said |
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| 18:00.17 | sponix | Ede|Popede: Here in the US (I'm in Kansas) there is "Micro Center" stores. And they put the USB Sticks up front like candy for kids -- so you can't resist picking up a few as you check out lol |
| 18:00.17 | Hammerschlag | I bought myself an 10tb Harddrive last xmas |
| 18:00.41 | sponix | Hammerschlag: My wife got me a 12TB this Christmas !! |
| 18:01.03 | Hammerschlag | is that noise normal for 10TB+ harddrives? |
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| 18:03.47 | Ede|Popede | sponix: heh. no, i have an electronics shop walking distance, 35 or 40 years old last year. on their 30th they had some branded sticks, i missed to get one :( so at least this time i got one, i think the offer is because of their b-day. |
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| 18:05.28 | Ede|Popede | Hammerschlag: i hope it is not as loud as my gpu fan. sounds like the bearing is dying a slow painful death. at least it's a cheap nvidia, so from a debian user's perspective it can only get better afterwards :) |
| 18:05.36 | sponix | Hammerschlag: the chatter during reads/writes -- yes |
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| 18:06.06 | Hammerschlag | okay :( |
| 18:06.22 | Hammerschlag | so I'll put it in the basement wheree my fibre enters |
| 18:07.28 | Hammerschlag | as I plugged it in first time I was mad and thought they send me an damanged HDD |
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| 18:08.18 | sponix | Hammerschlag: I'm rocking 9 spinning drives and seeding about 2K torrents... I can hear the chatter of my drives half way across the room |
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| 18:10.10 | Hammerschlag | i wouldnt write it when I'm here |
| 18:10.31 | Hammerschlag | the german SWAT raided my house for holocaust denial as I protected palestines in Chat.. so ... im kinda monitored |
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| 18:12.27 | Hammerschlag | thats why I even switched to linux |
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| 18:13.04 | sponix | there is "another" Holocaust going on ? |
| 18:13.08 | Hammerschlag | yes |
| 18:13.26 | Hammerschlag | on palestines |
| 18:13.27 | Ede|Popede | what?! redmondOS being annoying as hell wasn't reason enough? :D |
| 18:14.42 | Hammerschlag | just saying... avoid talking about grey stuff when im there ^^ for your own interesst |
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| 18:16.03 | b1ack0p | hi |
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| 18:16.42 | Ede|Popede | see, now even lvlup to black. grey isn't enough anymore xD |
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| 18:17.24 | Hammerschlag | Grauzone ^^ dont know the english term... |
| 18:17.28 | Hammerschlag | 50 shades of illegal |
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| 18:18.33 | Ede|Popede | Hammerschlag: band names usually aren't translated :P |
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| 18:19.19 | Ede|Popede | is quiet now before someone uses that evil o-word |
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| 18:47.25 | tehnull | imagine getting swatted for protecting an oppressed people |
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| 18:48.19 | ejr | in debian 10, how is one supposed to activate wifi on a minimum installation with no gui when there is no wpa_supplicant installed? funnily i can use wpa_passphrase but not wpa_supplicant |
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| 18:56.37 | jhutchins | ejr: Install the supplicant and possibly nmcli. |
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| 18:57.20 | ejr | yes, but how, without a connection? |
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| 18:57.37 | jhutchins | manual download & transfer. |
| 18:57.50 | ejr | wasnt it always part of debian by default in the past? |
| 18:57.59 | jhutchins | ejr: Still is. |
| 18:58.05 | jhutchins | You just have to install it. |
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| 18:58.13 | ejr | no, i mean on a minimal install. |
| 18:58.20 | jhutchins | How did you get this "minimal" installation in the first place? |
| 18:58.27 | ejr | netinstall |
| 18:58.35 | jhutchins | I don't think it was, minimal assumes wired connection. |
| 18:58.56 | ejr | this does not make sense though. during the minimal installation i could use my wireless connection. |
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| 18:59.27 | ejr | so it must be part of the ~300mb minimum file, but not of the installed system when one does not install any desktop environment but only the base system utilities |
| 18:59.55 | c0rnelius | do you have a cell phone? just usb tether and install wpasupplicant and wireless-tools |
| 19:00.06 | ejr | yes, i have a cell phone, but not a smartphone... |
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| 19:01.54 | jhutchins | Does netinstall have a rescue mode? |
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| 19:02.18 | jhutchins | ejr: You can also just download the packages and do a manual transfer. |
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| 19:03.31 | ejr | hmm, not sure, but this used to be MUCH easier in debian in the past... |
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| 19:11.56 | Bushmaster | hi folks, just interested to know is it possible to see binary |
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| 19:22.56 | annadane | Bushmaster, binary what? |
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| 19:23.37 | Bushmaster | annadane, lets say I write codes in Python |
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| 19:25.09 | annadane | Bushmaster, i still don't understand your question |
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| 19:27.18 | vanessalee | Good afternoon. |
| 19:27.30 | vanessalee | Do you have kernel discussions somewhere? |
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| 19:28.24 | annadane | if you have a support question concerning the kernel in debian you may just wish to ask it, there is also #debian-kernel on OFTC or https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel |
| 19:28.42 | vanessalee | Thank you anna |
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| 19:35.00 | LameName123 | Hey there! Whenever I try to uninstall gnome-terminal it automatically installs rxvt-unicode and rxvt-unicode-256color and vice versa. Why? How can I prevent this from happening? |
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| 19:36.08 | vanessalee | Is this something with update-alternatives? |
| 19:36.27 | vanessalee | I never figured out how that works. |
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| 19:38.54 | OerHeks | update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator |
| 19:39.12 | OerHeks | * before removal gnome-terminal, i guess |
| 19:40.34 | LameName123 | That just gives me "There is only one alternative in link group x-terminal-emulator (providing /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator): /usr/bin/gnome-terminal.wrapper. |
| 19:40.34 | LameName123 | Nothing to configure." |
| 19:41.36 | LameName123 | I would really prefer it if I could just remove stuff, even if I don't have a "required" alternative installed. |
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| 19:41.54 | LameName123 | Can I configure that somehow? |
| 19:41.55 | Bushmaster | annadane, what I understood is all high level language that we write as simple english codes gets transferred as assemmbly language which is binary digits as far i undersootd hence for example if somebody write bunch of numbers lets say 124589076889, can I not transfer / convert it into binary digit |
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| 19:44.23 | annadane | so you want to convert your python code to binary? okay, that's at least a more detailed question |
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| 19:46.30 | Bushmaster | annadane, yes or anything that I may write, in lets say txt file, i want to see binary of it |
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| 19:52.15 | annadane | does anybody else know how? i don't. |
| 19:54.13 | petn-randall | Bushmaster: You need to be more explicit what you mean with "see". You can just run `cat <binaryname>` and look at the gibberish. |
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| 19:54.37 | futahentailover | hi |
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| 19:55.08 | futahentailover | Debian linux eh? |
| 19:55.12 | annadane | there are systemd binary *logs* which can be viewed with i think journalctl but that's presumably not what's meant |
| 19:55.12 | futahentailover | i have raspian |
| 19:55.15 | annadane | !raspbian |
| 19:55.16 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian (or #raspberrypi) on irc.freenode.net for support. https://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 20:17.27 | Bushmaster | petn-randall, and annadane lets say you type bunch of numbers 678999234 and save it as text file. is it not possible to see the binary form of that txt file |
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| 20:18.08 | Bushmaster | petn-randall, and annadane did you watch a movie called Sphere, where numbers converted to binary |
| 20:18.45 | Bushmaster | i am talking something along that line |
| 20:19.07 | c0rnelius | the book is better |
| 20:23.11 | LameName123 | I fixed it by temporarily uninstalling my window manager that depended on the x-terminal-emulator meta package. Is there no cleaner way tho? |
| 20:24.40 | valdyn | !hex editor |
| 20:24.40 | dpkg | editor is 65 64 69 74 6F 72 |
| 20:24.50 | valdyn | Bushmaster: just find a hex editor |
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| 20:25.57 | valdyn | Bushmaster: that would be close enough to binary |
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| 20:27.27 | Bushmaster | okay thanks valdyn |
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| 20:33.07 | petn-randall | Bushmaster: Do you mean hex editor? Because that's hexadecimal, not binary. Do you really want to see the file contents as 010111010101100111100? |
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| 20:34.39 | valdyn | !hex 678999234 |
| 20:34.39 | dpkg | 678999234 is 36 37 38 39 39 39 32 33 34 |
| 20:34.44 | valdyn | not very exciting |
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| 20:55.32 | ac1dlynx | Hi i need help someone? |
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| 20:56.04 | spacebug^ | !ask |
| 20:56.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 20:56.43 | ac1dlynx | okay... i have q4os but i can't download tor... apt can't find it |
| 20:57.19 | annadane | is q4os a linux distro? we don't tend to support debian-derived here |
| 20:57.25 | otyugh | ac1dlynx, you mean tor or torbrowser ? |
| 20:57.30 | ac1dlynx | torbrowser |
| 20:57.45 | otyugh | torbrowser-launcher is the name |
| 20:57.51 | ac1dlynx | i know |
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| 20:57.57 | ac1dlynx | but i can't download it |
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| 20:58.44 | otyugh | what do you get doing "apt-cache policy torbrowser-launcher" ? |
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| 21:00.14 | ac1dlynx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:06.15 | Bushmaster | petn-randall, yes, i just want to see if bunch of numbers thrown at me, how i can transform it into binary. Similarly, bunch of high level codes lets say written in Python, how i can see the binary of i |
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| 21:06.50 | valdyn | Bushmaster: python is interpreted, theres no binary except in memory - thats not a good starting point |
| 21:07.13 | Bushmaster | petn-randall, what I understood, machines do not know our language, it only knows voltage and binary is transformed into voltage via logic gates |
| 21:07.57 | Bushmaster | valdyn, but all high level codes get transferred into binary right? |
| 21:08.07 | valdyn | Bushmaster: sure |
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| 21:08.23 | Bushmaster | and there is no way I can see it valdyn |
| 21:08.34 | valdyn | Bushmaster: but no one reads binary, so theres no popular tool for that |
| 21:08.54 | valdyn | Bushmaster: what people use instead is hexadecimal, so use any hex editor |
| 21:08.58 | annadane | ac1dlynx, really, ask them, not us |
| 21:09.02 | annadane | they must have support resources |
| 21:09.17 | annadane | debian is not q4os |
| 21:09.21 | Bushmaster | So its not possible to see the binary of human language then valdyn |
| 21:09.27 | valdyn | Bushmaster: theres plenty hex editors in debian |
| 21:09.46 | valdyn | Bushmaster: sure its *possible* , but no one does that |
| 21:09.54 | ac1dlynx | q4os is based on debian |
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| 21:10.05 | Bushmaster | the other dude called petn-randall mentioned something else |
| 21:10.32 | valdyn | Bushmaster: he said hexadecimal |
| 21:10.37 | Bushmaster | valdyn, have you seen the movie called Sphere? Do you watch American movie? |
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| 21:10.43 | Phoenix_BSD | hi |
| 21:10.58 | Bushmaster | valdyn, hexadecimal is binary? |
| 21:11.04 | valdyn | Bushmaster: i dont really need to see a movie to understand what you want |
| 21:11.09 | annadane | !tell ac1dlynx about based on debian |
| 21:11.28 | valdyn | Bushmaster: no, hexadecimal is not binary, but its a good representation |
| 21:11.41 | annadane | does it not stand to reason that people using debian don't really know about q4os? |
| 21:11.44 | Bushmaster | valdyn, no you do not but that movie and i are in same synchrony |
| 21:12.14 | annadane | we're not oracles |
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| 21:12.27 | Bushmaster | valdyn, so it does not show 0 and 1 valdyn |
| 21:12.27 | Ede|Popede | Bushmaster, you may want to read somtething like this > https://code.tutsplus.com/articles/number-systems-an-introduction-to-binary-hexadecimal-and-more--active-10848 |
| 21:12.44 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, let me check |
| 21:13.07 | spacebug^ | what is blocking Debian from having tor-browser in main? |
| 21:13.08 | Ede|Popede | 0 and 1 are just represantations, good for us, since we can do math with it as usual |
| 21:13.29 | otyugh | ac1dlynx, hum. I on't get the problem. Your apt cache says torbrowser-launcher is already installed, right ? |
| 21:13.38 | ac1dlynx | no |
| 21:13.44 | ac1dlynx | it says that is not |
| 21:14.08 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, so how I transfer bunch of numbers into binary |
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| 21:14.26 | Bushmaster | or bunch of codes into binary |
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| 21:15.23 | valdyn | Bushmaster: you should read that website |
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| 21:15.27 | otyugh | ,v torbrowser-launcher |
| 21:15.28 | judd | Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 -- jessie/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3; stretch-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.3.2-3~bpo9+1; buster-backports/contrib: 0.3.2-3~bpo10+1; sid/contrib: 0.3.2-5 |
| 21:15.35 | kartox | tor-browser is not in Debian's main is because it is use for abuse by criminals |
| 21:15.39 | otyugh | ac1dlynx, just check you have the right repo. |
| 21:15.42 | Ede|Popede | Bushmaster: understand how counting works (yes, the good old 1, 2, 3, 4...) and how we create strings of [[:digits::] ("0".."9") from any number. and remember that we have 10 fingers. then try to do this with 4 fingers only, then with 2. |
| 21:15.44 | valdyn | Bushmaster: you are very far from understanding what it is you are asking, please go read some first |
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| 21:16.37 | Ede|Popede | Bushmaster: and then remember your feet, at the same time forget about thumbs and your big toes. and see, you're using hex. |
| 21:16.40 | Bushmaster | valdyn, you told me you already realize what I want to acheive without watching Sphere |
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| 21:16.57 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, thanks for the metaphor |
| 21:18.14 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, can you transfer this number into binary 76889348801829 |
| 21:18.44 | Ede|Popede | Bushmaster: and if you can have fun with math in general, then dive a bit into this kind of stuff > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_(mathematics) |
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| 21:19.19 | lupine | hmm, bullseye firefox update on aarch64 dies with "illegal instruction". good fun |
| 21:19.33 | Ede|Popede | Bushmaster: you can even transfer Pi into binary. the base (10 or 2 or 42) is irrelevant (well, mostly if you want to stay with nice fractions). |
| 21:20.18 | Bushmaster | and you know how to transfer the numbers i typed above Ede|Popede |
| 21:20.33 | Ede|Popede | sure |
| 21:20.50 | Bushmaster | can you tell me how Ede|Popede |
| 21:21.00 | valdyn | Bushmaster: you write a program for that or just use google, very few people on eart could do that in their head |
| 21:21.21 | valdyn | Bushmaster: and those few would be some autists |
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| 21:21.32 | OS-21861 | t |
| 21:22.21 | Ede|Popede | pretty offtopic, don't you think? and such tutorials (well written, better than i could do it out of the blue) are on teh interwebz. |
| 21:23.05 | Bushmaster | I am using Debian and I want to transform numbers and codes into binary |
| 21:24.29 | Ede|Popede | then you have to learn the basics. that's not just "Phase 1: Collect underpants: Phase 2: ? Phase 3: Profit." |
| 21:25.10 | Ede|Popede | that's a schooling situation you're looking for, far beyond what support for specific problems can do |
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| 21:27.32 | Ede|Popede | Bushmaster: it is *you* who has to *understand* how to transform, say, decimal to hex or binary (or octal or whatever). that's a *working process* you have to go through until Trinity finally gets that upload process fixed. |
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| 21:28.49 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, I am gonna code it in Python now |
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| 21:29.09 | Ede|Popede | don't forget to get the algorithm clear first :) |
| 21:29.16 | Bushmaster | its not even kindergarten math |
| 21:29.31 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, let me see |
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| 21:31.46 | Ede|Popede | i'm not even sure it is part of regular schooling, at least not all of it. i mean, just try to get the relations between all of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Algebraic_structures -- and the rules and structures which apply to each of them. takes some time and some knowledge beforehand :) |
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| 21:35.40 | Ede|Popede | Bushmaster, and while you're at it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_table |
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| 21:36.25 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, that valdyn was telling me Python is not good start but it turned out Python is great start cos it has built in function called bin that does the job for me |
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| 21:38.27 | Ede|Popede | depends what you want. if you're satisfied with such a function, fine. if you want to know how to write your own and much more, maybe another language would be good for the start. and no, don't ask me. BASIC was the thing long ago and then there was a certain Niklaus Wirth. |
| 21:39.32 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, Python did it for me fine here is what I did https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DVcPPyHctq/ |
| 21:39.54 | tibaret | hey... 'deb http://deb.debina.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free' is in my sources.list; it's a fresh install, it has dependency problems and can't find basic packages like 'htop' and 'curl' ,the packages it does see in apt-cache search all have dep problems. I didn't have network connectivty at intsall time so sources.list wsn't configured,is that my problem? how do I fix it or make it see the right |
| 21:39.55 | tibaret | packages |
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| 21:41.40 | Ede|Popede | !buster sources.list |
| 21:41.40 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Buster" has the lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main", and optionally "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main". See <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <buster/updates> <buster-updates> and "man sources.list". |
| 21:43.58 | Ede|Popede | tibaret: 'debina' is a typo only here? |
| 21:44.05 | tibaret | yes, I uncommented the default and went with that at first, reverting to just buster-updates and main does not resolve the issue. it says "You have held broken packages" no matter what |
| 21:44.11 | tibaret | yeah, that's a typo |
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| 21:48.52 | tibaret | fixed it! |
| 21:48.58 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, i can even convert letters into binary in Python https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S6cqG3VJ5w/ |
| 21:49.04 | tibaret | that thing in the bot snipped and the defautl example are wrong! |
| 21:49.29 | tibaret | "buster-updates main" is useless , it should be "buster buster-updates main" that works... ugh |
| 21:49.38 | HelloShitty | hello peeps |
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| 21:50.05 | HelloShitty | Anyone recommends or have any preferences for PDF viewer/editor applications for Debian? |
| 21:50.13 | HelloShitty | I'm using Plasma Desktop, by the way |
| 21:50.32 | tibaret | HelloS!##Y I'm not calling you that |
| 21:50.33 | veikko | mupdf |
| 21:50.34 | HelloShitty | I'm thinking about to try qpdfview |
| 21:50.37 | tibaret | i like mupdf |
| 21:50.47 | elm_ | how can I download the stretch i.e. oldstable jigdo-dlbd |
| 21:50.59 | tibaret | I actually like firefox just fine, the pdf.js builtin viewer is nice |
| 21:51.08 | HelloShitty | ok, 2 votes for mupdf |
| 21:51.10 | HelloShitty | :p |
| 21:51.16 | HelloShitty | Going to try that one |
| 21:51.21 | veikko | also using firefox |
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| 21:51.48 | elm_ | I really need that |
| 21:51.48 | elm_ | stretch is not on archive.debian.org and not on cdimage.debian.org |
| 21:51.48 | elm_ | the pool repo is online but I need an installation medium |
| 21:51.48 | elm_ | I am always directed in circles at debian.org and at cdimage.debian.org |
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| 21:52.24 | Ede|Popede | uses qpdfview |
| 21:52.32 | elm_ | I would need that quickly until tomorrow |
| 21:52.48 | jhutchins | elm_: apt install jigdo-dlbd |
| 21:53.40 | HelloShitty | thanks guys |
| 21:53.42 | elm_ | yes I have that program |
| 21:53.43 | elm_ | I need the .template |
| 21:53.43 | elm_ | and the .jigdo files |
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| 21:54.43 | jhutchins | elm_: explain why you can't just use apt, or download the package from the web page. |
| 21:54.49 | DEX | I set up a script to start a minecraft server when lubuntu starts but can't remember where it is. is there a way to find out? |
| 21:54.51 | elm_ | jhutchings: and the SHA512SUMS file for the dlbd |
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| 21:56.56 | elm_ | ahh /cdimage instead of cd-image |
| 21:56.56 | elm_ | how weird |
| 21:56.56 | elm_ | searching in plain text compromises tor usage |
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| 21:57.32 | jhutchins | elm_: checksums for packages generally aren't generated, the packages are signed instead. |
| 21:58.29 | jhutchins | Paranoia compromises both security and operations. |
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| 22:00.31 | jhutchins | !snapshot |
| 22:00.31 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 22:00.40 | elm_ | no, I mean the checksum for the BD/CD |
| 22:00.43 | Bushmaster | Ede|Popede, and valdyn here is what I wanted to achieve and I achieved it in Python https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yGR8WNzZSd/ |
| 22:01.55 | jhutchins | I wonder if he was looking for the stretch installer. |
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| 22:19.44 | vanessalee | do debian have a discord server? |
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| 22:20.04 | vanessalee | fedora and opensuse have one. |
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| 22:23.34 | annadane | not officially |
| 22:25.24 | DEX | is there a way to figure out what script started a service? |
| 22:25.53 | otyugh | vanessalee, isn't discord nonfree software ? Seems weird to use this. |
| 22:26.12 | DEX | discord is free |
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| 22:30.28 | EdePopede | free as in free beer? |
| 22:30.33 | annadane | !free |
| 22:30.34 | dpkg | it has been said that free is defined in English with many different meanings of which only one refers to cost. Easier in French, or 'free beer' = gratuit / 'free speech' = libre, or http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html, or free (procps) tells you how much memory is used/wasted ("Mem:") and how much is being necessarily used/could be freed ("-/+ buffers/cache:"), see also <free ram>. |
| 22:30.52 | shibboleth | free as in owned by chinese actors |
| 22:30.52 | annadane | otyugh, means 'free as in freedom', not free as in beer |
| 22:30.58 | annadane | minus comma |
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| 22:31.13 | shibboleth | free as in recently clamped down on users "freedom" with re to their content |
| 22:31.36 | annadane | so no, i doubt discord is "free" |
| 22:31.38 | DEX | I set up a script to start a minecraft server when lubuntu starts but can't remember where it is. is there a way to find out? |
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| 22:31.59 | otyugh | I wouldn't say free as free beer. I'd say free as free drugs |
| 22:32.07 | annadane | !tell DEX about dfsg |
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| 22:34.27 | spacebug^ | DEX: maybe something like 'ps axjf' |
| 22:36.32 | jhutchins | DEX: You're in the debian channel. You want lubuntu or ubuntu (probably the latter). |
| 22:37.36 | DEX | no one was awake in them so thought i'd ask here.. lol figure its all the same |
| 22:38.00 | jhutchins | DEX: Nope. Things like startup scripts are most likely to be different. |
| 22:38.16 | jhutchins | !ubuntu |
| 22:38.16 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 22:38.25 | annadane | in this case it probably is the same but in future don't ask too many ubuntu questions in debian |
| 22:38.32 | annadane | "based on" != the same |
| 22:39.09 | jhutchins | DEX: I see live posts in #ubuntu. #lubuntu might be dead, but it's just ubuntu with lxde, same base system. |
| 22:40.41 | DEX | kk |
| 22:41.52 | jhutchins | DEX: Tip: write logging into your scripts. |
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| 23:45.59 | SquirrelPeanut | anybody know where the void linux channel is? |
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| 23:46.09 | SquirrelPeanut | I tried joining #void but that isn't it |
| 23:47.20 | Habbie | SquirrelPeanut, /msg alis list void |
| 23:47.20 | SquirrelPeanut | ah I found it it is voidlinux |
| 23:47.23 | SquirrelPeanut | ah I found it it is #voidlinux |
| 23:47.25 | Habbie | ok good |
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| 23:49.01 | annadane | void actually isn't bad but it's a bit sparse documentation wise |
| 23:49.31 | SquirrelPeanut | i just um need their help to install gnome |
| 23:49.38 | annadane | it has its own package manager and runit as an init system, downside is the community maybe isn't all that big, but it's a decent project |
| 23:49.51 | SquirrelPeanut | i'm glad my ubuntu install is still here and i tested it and it works |
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| 23:51.46 | annadane | some people actually prefer void to arch, which is interesting |
| 23:52.32 | tangarora_ | how can I set the mirror selection to be completely automattic in debian with a preseed file? |
| 23:53.15 | tangarora_ | I would rather not define the mirror, but let the installer pick the best one automatically... |
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| 23:53.27 | tangarora_ | not much on the preseed doc in debian.org |
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