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| 00:03.09 | Jmabsd | dvs: i like to do normal boot of the SSD Debian installation |
| 00:03.45 | salkin | crestfallen: check https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_MIDI_keyboards |
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| 00:03.57 | Jmabsd | i am watching the SSD installer's "/boot" partition now from the USB installer rescue mode |
| 00:04.29 | Jmabsd | i see some commands in its /grub.conf like "set root='hd0'" and search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root [an UUID] |
| 00:05.04 | dvs | Jmabsd, there should be an option on the USB installer to restore GRUB. |
| 00:05.27 | Jmabsd | what do you mean? |
| 00:05.36 | Jmabsd | so, in the installer's grub console, |
| 00:05.41 | Jmabsd | can't i just say "boot my SSD please" |
| 00:06.31 | abrotman | You can just say that .. doesn't mean it will listen .. |
| 00:06.41 | dvs | heh |
| 00:07.18 | dvs | Jmabsd, There is a rescue mode in the "Advanced Option" menu on the USB installer. |
| 00:07.48 | Jmabsd | dvs: and what about it? |
| 00:08.06 | Jmabsd | dvs: actually what i want to do is to make grub install as MBR boot |
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| 00:08.38 | dvs | Jmabsd, so you want the repair GRUB option then. |
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| 00:09.29 | Jmabsd | dvs: maybe i just reinstall Debian and this time create no efi partition |
| 00:09.49 | dvs | Jmabsd, it's your choice. |
| 00:10.08 | Jmabsd | dvs: how could I force the Debian installer to produce an MBR partition table |
| 00:11.15 | dvs | <dvs> Jmabsd, so you want the repair GRUB option then. |
| 00:12.06 | Jmabsd | dvs: i guess not? |
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| 00:13.01 | dvs | Jmabsd, I'm giving you the answer |
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| 00:13.06 | Jmabsd | hmm |
| 00:13.10 | Jmabsd | i don't see the repair grub option hm |
| 00:13.43 | dvs | Jmabsd, When you boot the USB installer and go to Advanced Mode in the GRUB menu? |
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| 00:15.41 | Jmabsd | oh great, i see in the advanced installer now, selecting the SSD, it asks do you want to create a new partition table, and there's the option "MSDOS". awesome! |
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| 00:26.50 | Jmabsd | dvs: on the last system install, I skipped the create partition table step, |
| 00:27.01 | dvs | oops |
| 00:27.04 | Jmabsd | i just went about creating partitions and i'm sure those were created as GPT, at least i thiiink they were |
| 00:27.16 | Jmabsd | and i created an EFI partition on the last install - in an MBR booted system there is no such thing right |
| 00:27.31 | Jmabsd | so to keep things comprehensive, i specify MBR now and then no EFI partition |
| 00:27.33 | Jmabsd | let's see if it works :) |
| 00:27.40 | dvs | Jmabsd, Probably. It depends on what mode the installed was started in. |
| 00:27.54 | dvs | *installer |
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| 00:31.10 | Jmabsd | dvs: this time i take advanced installer. last time was just installer. booted off MBR i think but the installer's autodetection said it's an UEFi system |
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| 00:31.37 | dvs | yeah, as expected |
| 00:32.40 | Jmabsd | ah nice, the advanced install gives me the option of backports prespecified in apt sources |
| 00:32.41 | Jmabsd | neat. |
| 00:33.23 | Jmabsd | i think the system is properly MBR-BIOS this time, great. let's see. |
| 00:33.41 | Jmabsd | dvs: do you know how grub.cfg looks different between a BIOS and an EFI booted system? |
| 00:34.28 | dvs | No, that is generated automatically. |
| 00:34.52 | oerheks | ok, last intel vuln https://cacheoutattack.com/ ... yes, unless you happen to have a CPU released after Q4 2018. |
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| 00:38.18 | Miles8of9 | is someone using radeon rx 5600 xt? does it run on linux? i'm looking for drivers but looks like there are no drivers |
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| 00:41.07 | wonderworld | Miles8of9: it seems to work on linux...they benchmarked some games with it: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rx5600xt-linux-vbios&num=1 |
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| 00:41.36 | Miles8of9 | i'm reading the same page but can't find drivers! |
| 00:42.03 | Miles8of9 | https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-linux |
| 00:42.13 | wonderworld | did you check https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo ? |
| 00:42.13 | Miles8of9 | this is the last drivers pack they released |
| 00:43.36 | Miles8of9 | is suspect those packages were released.... quite some time ago! |
| 00:43.37 | Jmabsd | dvs: Yeeey it worked, looks like!.. |
| 00:43.40 | Jmabsd | now let's see if the kernel works |
| 00:45.26 | Miles8of9 | https://packages.debian.org/buster/xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu <--- supported chipsets: Bonaire, Hawaii, Kaveri, Kabini Mullins, Iceland, Tonga, Carrizo, Fiji, Stoney |
| 00:46.37 | Miles8of9 | rx 5600 xt should be Navi |
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| 00:49.52 | Miles8of9 | kernel 5.5 seems to have support for Navi... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.5-Ready-To-Shine |
| 00:50.08 | Miles8of9 | (wait... debian runs only 4.19!) |
| 00:50.35 | Jmabsd | For the AMDGPU framebuffer console, do I need any particular package installed? |
| 00:50.54 | Jmabsd | ooh i see, my dmesg says firmware is missing, ahh. |
| 00:51.24 | dvs | !firmware |
| 00:51.24 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 00:52.25 | dvs | heh ^ |
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| 00:55.58 | Jmabsd | right indeed. |
| 00:56.06 | Jmabsd | dmesg complained that AMDGPU can't access the firmware. |
| 00:56.09 | Jmabsd | ok i should reboot. |
| 00:56.17 | Jmabsd | dvs: thanks again! :DDDD have a wonderful day! :DD |
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| 00:56.22 | dvs | np |
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| 01:02.04 | fuxxy | Is there a way to verify the current status of a kinit command? |
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| 01:11.11 | wonderworld | Miles8of9: you can install kernel 5.x from backports repository -> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/545601/how-to-upgrade-the-debian-10-kernel-from-backports-without-recompiling-it-from-s |
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| 01:18.21 | Miles8of9 | mmm buster backports |
| 01:18.41 | Jmabsd | what's the aptitude or apt command again to find in which package a given file is located |
| 01:18.46 | Miles8of9 | should be almost empty... they rarely put things there |
| 01:18.50 | Jmabsd | e.g. "/usr/sbin/xyzconnect" is in what package |
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| 01:20.23 | Miles8of9 | https://packages.debian.org/buster-backports/linux-image-amd64 |
| 01:20.28 | Miles8of9 | 5.4.0 |
| 01:20.57 | Miles8of9 | is suspect it's too old to support that card |
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| 01:21.56 | dvs | Jmabsd, dpkg -S ? |
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| 01:23.36 | Miles8of9 | wonderworld, how do i find the list of supported hw in 5.4 kernel? |
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| 01:24.17 | wonderworld | i guess you need to browse the kernel release notes @ kernel.org |
| 01:24.23 | Jmabsd | uu.. weird |
| 01:24.29 | wonderworld | there might be a better place i don't know of though |
| 01:24.34 | Jmabsd | dvs: in last Debian I used to have "/usr/bin/aplay" which plays audio |
| 01:25.07 | Miles8of9 | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-54-radeon |
| 01:25.11 | wonderworld | current ist 5.4.15 |
| 01:25.41 | wonderworld | not sure on debian, though. i got 5.4.15 today on arch |
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| 01:26.08 | wonderworld | 5.5 should release pretty soon |
| 01:26.48 | dvs | ,info alsa-utils |
| 01:26.50 | judd | Package alsa-utils (sound, optional) in buster/amd64: Utilities for configuring and using ALSA. Version: 1.1.8-2; Size: 1018.8k; Installed: 2253k; Homepage: https://www.alsa-project.org/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/alsa-utils |
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| 01:29.03 | Miles8of9 | translating an expression from my country, debian releases once after pope dies! :D |
| 01:29.39 | wonderworld | it has pros and cons |
| 01:30.01 | wonderworld | it's rock stable |
| 01:30.11 | wonderworld | it has older packagess |
| 01:31.16 | wonderworld | maybe for a gaming pc something else would be a better choice |
| 01:31.49 | Miles8of9 | probably ubuntu... |
| 01:34.19 | wonderworld | i'd say manjaro |
| 01:34.37 | spoonsarecool | This is a Debian channel, not an Arch channel. |
| 01:34.45 | Miles8of9 | however... a kernel driver shouldn't be enough.... you also need X support... https://packages.debian.org/buster/xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu |
| 01:34.47 | spoonsarecool | Debian 10 or Debian unstable. |
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| 01:39.46 | Miles8of9 | sid has 5.4.13! that's not so bad |
| 01:40.03 | Miles8of9 | but..... it's sid....... |
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| 01:42.59 | dvs | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 01:43.00 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u6; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u9; stretch-backports: 4.19+105+deb10u1~bpo9+1; buster: 4.19+105+deb10u1; buster-proposed-updates: 4.19+105+deb10u2; buster-backports: 5.4.8-1~bpo10+1; bullseye: 5.4.13-1; sid: 5.4.13-1; experimental: 5.5~rc5-1~exp1 |
| 01:46.44 | Miles8of9 | Chuck Norris can run an entire server farm on experimental without any crash! :D |
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| 01:46.59 | dvs | on a Raspberry Pi |
| 01:47.17 | wonderworld | USB-powered |
| 01:47.54 | Miles8of9 | ahahhah |
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| 01:57.52 | Miles8of9 | apt beats pacman 10-0.. ghghghgh!!! |
| 01:58.17 | dvs | gets to level 255 |
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| 02:41.35 | Akuw_ | i just added snapshot repo, how can i download all pool locally ? |
| 02:42.34 | dvs | !apt-mirror |
| 02:42.35 | dpkg | apt-mirror is a tool for making a local mirror of any <APT> source. To mirror multiple architectures, specify "deb-$arch ..." in /etc/apt/mirror.list; e.g. "deb-amd64 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free". Discussion forum: http://sf.net/projects/apt-mirror/forums/forum/197335 . http://apt-mirror.sf.net/ See also <mirrors>. |
| 02:43.13 | Akuw_ | jelly told me about to use apt-get -d |
| 02:43.43 | dvs | Then why are you asking again? |
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| 02:45.23 | Akuw_ | dvs: sorry, i was in another computer and dont have acces to response |
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| 03:00.29 | Jmabsd | On a fresh Debian: # update-grub |
| 03:00.30 | Jmabsd | bash: update-grub: command not found |
| 03:00.35 | Jmabsd | # /usr/sbin/update-grub |
| 03:00.36 | Jmabsd | How fix? |
| 03:00.42 | Jmabsd | leads to: /usr/sbin/update-grub: 3: exec: grub-mkconfig: not found |
| 03:00.53 | ksk | !buster su |
| 03:00.53 | dpkg | In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for details. |
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| 03:02.38 | Jmabsd | i am root already |
| 03:02.40 | Jmabsd | ksk: i'm root. |
| 03:02.50 | ksk | and how did you become root? |
| 03:02.53 | Jmabsd | I do have "/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig" |
| 03:02.56 | Jmabsd | ksk: via su |
| 03:02.59 | Jmabsd | ahaaaaaaaa |
| 03:02.59 | Jmabsd | yes |
| 03:03.00 | Jmabsd | sorry |
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| 03:03.05 | ksk | thanks. |
| 03:03.44 | fuxxy | Another user who thinks the 'enter' key is punctuation! |
| 03:03.56 | dvs | what |
| 03:03.57 | dvs | did |
| 03:03.58 | dvs | you |
| 03:03.59 | dvs | say? |
| 03:04.16 | fuxxy | Careful, you'll piss debhelper off as well! |
| 03:05.52 | dvs | I'll risk it! |
| 03:05.57 | JackFrost | That, or Sigyn is also here. |
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| 03:06.39 | Jmabsd | Should ifup immediately respond to /etc/network/interfaces changes? |
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| 03:39.23 | mason | Jmabsd: ifdown before changing things in there or it won't have a clean way to bring down the old config |
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| 04:22.27 | mokouisgud | How to fix your Debian install: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBEUfSPxkXw |
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| 04:23.36 | mokouisgud | Optus sucks, well_laid_lawn |
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| 04:35.28 | mokouisgud | Oy vey. |
| 04:35.32 | mokouisgud | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqqwTgk8ri0 |
| 04:35.41 | mokouisgud | Goyim never forget six million goyim |
| 04:35.49 | mokouisgud | shekels 4 life goim |
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| 04:39.32 | DarwinElf | i'm trying to recall what a great command-line tool is probably on Debian (maybe Ubuntu but it's not really oriented to that)... it was some utility/sysadmin tool that finds all kinds of problems on the filesystem you can fix (probably without fsck) like broken symlinks, maybe corrupt files, maybe files with strange characters you don't want, etc... and more... what would it be calld? |
| 04:39.34 | DarwinElf | 'called' |
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| 04:41.55 | annadane | DarwinElf, rmlint? |
| 04:42.20 | DarwinElf | that looks like it; thanks! :D |
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| 05:04.49 | DarwinElf | alright; I'm trying rmlint but it seems to be reporting symlinks as copies to be deleted? |
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| 05:50.28 | RedMercury | how would I go about diagnosing crazy network latency and really low local bandwidth for a freshly installed buster? |
| 05:50.51 | raildex | By getting a brain check. |
| 05:50.54 | RedMercury | I've just reinstalled it on a core i7 nuc and my local ping is bouncing between 0.8ms and 800ms |
| 05:51.05 | RedMercury | thanks for the snark |
| 05:51.06 | raildex | Just probe your brain with a Chinese multimeter |
| 05:51.18 | raildex | Make sure it's outputting 240V AC. |
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| 05:56.07 | diogenes_ | RedMercury, try a different dns. |
| 05:57.13 | diogenes_ | Hello guys, is it possible to capture both built-in audio analog and monitor for built-in audio analog, i'm trying to record my mic and also the background music with audacity and in pavucontrol, if it's built-in audio analog then it captures my mic and if i switch to monitor for built-in audio analog, it captures my background music and not the mic, but how to capture both? |
| 05:57.17 | RedMercury | this is host to host on my lan |
| 05:57.27 | RedMercury | it has nothing to do with dns |
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| 06:01.43 | jm_ | diogenes_: have you tried using arecord -D with both at the same time? |
| 06:02.27 | diogenes_ | jm_, nope, i'll look into that thanks. |
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| 06:08.05 | crn | RedMercury, have you checked the hardware connections, card seating and so on? |
| 06:08.13 | monkeystance | hey I've got a question for you guys |
| 06:08.35 | monkeystance | maybe I'll send it to #debian-offtopic actually |
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| 06:10.24 | diogenes_ | jm_, ok problem solved, all it needs is pactl load-module module-loopback. |
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| 06:17.25 | RedMercury | crn: its onboard lan, tried a few different cables and a few different switches |
| 06:17.34 | RedMercury | the strange thing is that it comes and goes in waves |
| 06:17.47 | RedMercury | pretty sure i don't have a packet storm, but it feels like it |
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| 06:23.43 | zerocool | anyone here use more than one network with irssi? |
| 06:24.12 | jm_ | don't use irssi, but I used several networks when I tried it back then |
| 06:27.34 | zerocool | im confused at how you switch between networks... like when just doing `/nick` how can i target the netwoek |
| 06:28.10 | cjsarette | try 2 windows? |
| 06:28.29 | zerocool | i have like 90 windows, only the first one is status |
| 06:28.30 | jm_ | I had each network in its own window, otherwise ctrl-x |
| 06:28.37 | zerocool | ohhh... |
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| 06:28.58 | zerocool | thank you jm_ that was it |
| 06:29.05 | zerocool | ctrl+x |
| 06:29.49 | jm_ | otherwise it appears some commands also support -tag option |
| 06:29.59 | jm_ | no problem |
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| 07:15.59 | dob1 | other than permissions, what are the options to give an user access to other users home dir/files etc? |
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| 07:16.30 | rudi_s | dob1: ACLs |
| 07:16.40 | rudi_s | Which are also kind of permissions, but not the regular UNIX permissions. |
| 07:17.20 | dob1 | rudi_s, I was thinking something like su |
| 07:17.38 | rudi_s | That works too of course, any setuid program can give additional privileges. |
| 07:17.39 | dob1 | running a command as the other user but without requiring the password |
| 07:17.59 | rudi_s | As can services like sss (access to LDAP) or web-services, dbus, etc. |
| 07:18.32 | dob1 | I will take a look |
| 07:19.16 | rudi_s | Ah, next to setuid there are capabilities as well: man capabilities |
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