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| 02:04.09 | sponix2ipfw | Mibbit: nope |
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| 02:18.40 | ksk | !anyone |
| 02:18.40 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 02:18.44 | ksk | Mibbit: ^ |
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| 02:26.18 | gh00p | Hey, is there a way for me to run 2 or more android emulators at the same time? I'm open to any system - virtualbox, whatever. Just not sure where to start researching. |
| 02:29.16 | ksk | I have use the sdk for android from google for that once or twice. a little bit more than just an emulator, but nice and clicky. it is third party software however, andnot part of debian of course. |
| 02:29.20 | ksk | used |
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| 02:40.09 | terr__ | ksk, may I ask what this is for? |
| 02:40.35 | ksk | it contains an android emulator. |
| 02:40.44 | ksk | gh00p: asked. forgot to highlight ;) |
| 02:40.53 | terr__ | like for a cell phone? |
| 02:41.19 | ksk | you can run the android os, that is run by many phones, on your computer yes. mainly used for developing apps. |
| 02:41.25 | terr__ | I just woke up and I guess you are my first victim |
| 02:41.47 | gh00p | ksk, thanks. Do I need the full "Android Studio" to get the SDK, or did you get the SDK on its own? |
| 02:41.50 | terr__ | ksk perfect. This is something I am looking to do! |
| 02:42.26 | terr__ | What is the run time environment? is it an emulator? I presume it is. |
| 02:44.32 | ksk | see its documentation ;) |
| 02:44.59 | ksk | https://developer.android.com/studio |
| 02:45.19 | terr__ | ksk, I can't look right now. Reason? I am just installing Debian in new systems and so far they are not fully operational. But I might be able to help. |
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| 02:48.54 | terr__ | ksk, I am looking to do some development work on android (for now but likely iPhone later) and also on Raspberry Pi. It would be great to work with a couple birds of a feather |
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| 02:50.53 | terr__ | ksk, when you bring up studio - what is the environment. Like it should just be a process which will likely fork() a bit. |
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| 02:51.53 | terr__ | ksk, how is it installed - via root? Is it accessable from several users? Linux is multiuser. For instance figuratively can one ssh in and run it? |
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| 03:01.47 | sponix2ipfw | terr__: you hanging your hat in here now ? Been seeing you in here a lot lately |
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| 03:04.18 | terr__ | sponix2ipfw, ya. I finally got past the password issue and have a working version. Its pretty primative. Now I've got a big HDD and I'm looking to find the proper .iso and reboot the machine off a proper HDD (this one is 1 TB and external - works great!) then I can get a "real" system going. |
| 03:05.07 | terr__ | I booted it off a USB pendrive. If you think sloooowww then think turtle is faasst |
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| 03:06.23 | terr__ | sponix2ipfw, I've done all of this before. Just not recently and someone moved the goal posts. |
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| 03:07.58 | sponix | terr__: all this time spent in here, and you are _still_ working to get a rig up ? |
| 03:08.04 | terr__ | sponix2ipfw, what I am doing now is get that HDD bootable. As part of this I'll look to add a USB switch and so far - I don't know: 2x4 or 4x4. My truck is a 4x4. maybe my switch should be as well. |
| 03:08.18 | terr__ | well ya |
| 03:09.20 | terr__ | Its actually now up. BUT - I only have 2 monitors running and the sizes are not right and I need to add #3 which is SVGA over USB and that is a 3rd size. |
| 03:10.47 | terr__ | sponix, figuring out a decent partitioing scheme so I can just copy a partition from one machine / drive to another was not easy. None of the partition sizes match. and I needed to use windows to do it and that is a royal pain. |
| 03:11.04 | sponix | I only run one 27 inch Monitor. So not much help there |
| 03:11.38 | sponix | terr__: lol ... I feel you should have read up on clonezilla |
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| 03:12.21 | terr__ | I have 4 systems: 2x32 bit, 2x64 bit and need w7, w10, and linux and VM and I have monitors on my desk right now with 2 more systems to go. |
| 03:12.56 | terr__ | lord I have read so much. But - I have a system and I used to just use bash. |
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| 03:13.25 | terr__ | sponix, I have forgotten all the commands. And I never used a GUI in the first place. |
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| 03:14.55 | terr__ | sponix, I already have a Raspberry pi and some arduinos and I am looking to set up some apps in android. one reason? I want to be able to control the RPI from a tablet over WiFi. |
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| 03:20.58 | Mibbit | ksk: ya well |
| 03:21.07 | terr__ | ksk, if you tell me how the developer's kit runs it might be pretty easy to run 2 copies |
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| 03:23.57 | Mibbit | don't really appreciate being policed |
| 03:24.44 | kingsley | What do you think of the package manager named "Spack"? (https://github.com/spack/spack) |
| 03:29.10 | kingsley | https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/fosdem/2020/UD2.119/dependency_solving_not_just_sat.webm |
| 03:29.51 | sponix | Mibbit: Policed ? |
| 03:30.12 | Mibbit | yep |
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| 03:38.14 | terr__ | what is the difference between debian 9 and debian 10. Last version I have is debian-9.7.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso |
| 03:39.10 | sponix | terr__: 10 is higher than 9 |
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| 03:39.47 | sponix | Debian 10.2 Buster is more up to date |
| 03:40.05 | terr__ | sponix, ya - I figured that. Probably newer as well. Maybe even better? |
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| 03:40.34 | terr__ | okay. 16 Nov 2019 we have Buster |
| 03:40.39 | terr__ | this is good. |
| 03:40.50 | sponix | terr__: I've had good luck with Debian 10 |
| 03:40.55 | terr__ | there is something which I may want and its not in Buster. |
| 03:41.16 | terr__ | well - since I'm doing an install I may as well install Buster. Eh? |
| 03:41.19 | terr__ | :-) |
| 03:41.41 | sponix | you can look at the packages prior to know if everything you need is supported |
| 03:41.46 | sponix | ,v rtorrent |
| 03:41.47 | judd | Package: rtorrent on amd64 -- jessie: 0.9.2-1; stretch: 0.9.6-2+b1; buster: 0.9.7-1; bullseye: 0.9.8-1; sid: 0.9.8-1 |
| 03:41.51 | sponix | for example |
| 03:42.00 | sponix | or do the debian packages website |
| 03:45.51 | nvz | my machine (Lenovo Thinkpad T440 i5-4400U 8GB RAM, 128GB SATA SSD) locks up on intensive writes.. I thought this was just a small and nearly full SSD thing, but I'm now doing batch operations in Audacity reading from and writing back to a USB3 HDD and its still doing it though not as often. Any suggestions on this? |
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| 03:46.25 | nvz | I think I need some kernel tuning |
| 03:47.00 | sponix | explain "locks up" |
| 03:47.13 | nvz | the keyboard/mouse is unresponsive for several moments |
| 03:47.19 | terr__ | okay - that machine is on bullseye. |
| 03:47.25 | terr__ | 9.7 |
| 03:47.27 | nvz | probably i/o wait tying up interrupts |
| 03:47.35 | nvz | would be my guess |
| 03:47.38 | terr__ | uname -a should give this to me and it didn't |
| 03:48.32 | sponix | nvz: check temps when doing this to ensure it isn't the cpu just dropping clocks like a mad man |
| 03:49.22 | sponix | nvz: then, you might experiment with different schedulers for IO or even the kernel itself |
| 03:50.52 | terr__ | WTF is goign on here? konsole is auto scrolling! I am not touching it and the screen is jumping up and down about 5 lines like a rabbit |
| 03:52.32 | nvz | sponix: my cpu is at 58C and the fan is going on/off which during normal usage I can run all day with my fan at 0rpm |
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| 04:42.06 | McE_2 | Hi, did a "dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and now my X wont work properly any more... , how do i fix it ? |
| 04:43.03 | McE_2 | service gdm start..., exists prematurely.. |
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| 04:45.23 | McE_2 | got a message saying s.th. like "X was starting 6 times within 90 seconds.., waiting 2 minutes before trying again"... |
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| 05:06.31 | McErroneous | does dpkg-reconfigure keep a backup-file ? |
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| 05:12.35 | terr__ | debian-installer Command not found |
| 05:17.47 | nvz | terr__: ? |
| 05:17.54 | nvz | !wayttd terr__ |
| 05:17.54 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, terr__? |
| 05:18.17 | terr__ | get debian-installer running |
| 05:18.35 | nvz | boot an install media? |
| 05:18.49 | tabakhase | are you root? |
| 05:18.53 | tabakhase | think its in sbin |
| 05:19.04 | nvz | ,file bin/debian-installer |
| 05:19.09 | judd | No packages in buster/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 05:19.24 | terr__ | its already installed. I wantg to getg an installer running so I can install a new version of Debian to a fresh partition ona new external drive |
| 05:19.25 | tabakhase | ,file /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher |
| 05:19.29 | judd | Search for /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher in buster/amd64: debian-installer-launcher: usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher |
| 05:19.42 | tabakhase | try that? *shrugs* |
| 05:19.56 | terr__ | I'm not yet in buster. I'm in bullseye 9.7 |
| 05:20.06 | nvz | o.O |
| 05:20.17 | nvz | terr__: you mean Stretch? |
| 05:20.43 | nvz | terr__: bullseye is testing, it has no version number yet.. it will be version 11 |
| 05:21.56 | terr__ | tabakhase, I will - thanks. It should be in the manual in section 6.3.1 instead of "Let's assume the Debian Installer has booted" Lordy |
| 05:22.19 | terr__ | I just glanced. Its 9.7 |
| 05:22.27 | terr__ | I installed it a year ago. |
| 05:22.35 | nvz | thats Stretch not Bullseye |
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| 05:24.12 | tabakhase | debootstrap and "installer" is a bootrecord, not a "binary"? - at least thats what i get from a glance at the old docs... |
| 05:24.17 | terr__ | thanks. Probably either would work. I have to redo this anyways because I set up 2 partitions: /root and /home. I want 1. This is not a production machine. Its a backup HDD |
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| 05:43.44 | terr__ | http://termbin.com/whb1 <---- this is what I have. There is no debian-installer |
| 05:44.23 | terr__ | Boy termbin works well! |
| 05:47.23 | terr__ | I should be able to easily use apt to install it. but again... its been years since I used apt |
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| 05:59.06 | tomg | i'd like to set up Exim to listen to the whole world on IPv6, i'm using dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 05:59.49 | tomg | I'm at "IP-addresses to listen on for incoming SMTP connections:" and I tried putting :: and [::], but it said Malformed IP address ":" in local_interfaces |
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| 06:01.53 | Gonpo | tomg: whole world? |
| 06:02.05 | tomg | well the internet in general, as opposed to lo |
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| 06:02.25 | Gonpo | how did / do set that up |
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| 06:10.19 | tomg | or, i guesst my question is how to get Exim to work with both IPv4 and IPv6, since I just got it to work with IPv4 |
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| 06:11.13 | tomg | using debian 10 on a cloud computer by the way. i configured it with 0.0.0.0 and it works, but if I use both 0.0.0.0 ; :: it fails to allocat an IPv6 port since it's already bound by the IPv4 port... okay i think i'm done typing now |
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| 07:54.04 | wuyx | ls |
| 07:54.21 | countdr | Bin Etc nobody |
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| 07:55.57 | ratrace | tomg: :: includes ipv4 too |
| 07:56.20 | countdr | Because Linux kernel binds both |
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| 08:26.58 | jsync | How do I force install a package? I uninstalled something & tried to reinstall it & the terminal said unmet dependencies. It's asking for a newer version of a library that's sufficient for compiling. |
| 08:28.03 | countdr | what about apt-get -f install ? |
| 08:28.36 | countdr | apt-get -f install |
| 08:29.02 | jsync | I was trying to give it the newer edition & I uninstalled something that's sufficient for compiling a software. I need to force install this lib again. |
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| 08:29.30 | countdr | A Makefile problem |
| 08:29.33 | jsync | I thought -f was fix. |
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| 08:30.30 | countdr | Sure answer is a virtual machine |
| 08:31.28 | digdilem | compile a software? software is plural. DId you mean a program? |
| 08:32.03 | themill | jsync: what precisely have you tried to do? Can you pastebin the command and full output? |
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| 08:43.00 | jsync | I have a private mirror. I need to install a library that depends upon an older edition of something installed. I want to force install this library though, because I need it for compiling a program. |
| 08:43.46 | countdr | Risk. |
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| 08:44.37 | jsync | It's asking for depends deb7u2, & I have deb7u4, in this case. |
| 08:45.09 | jsync | It should work fine if I can get it installed. |
| 08:45.13 | countdr | I don't know the difference |
| 08:46.21 | themill | jsync: there is no such think as forcing apt to install a package |
| 08:46.21 | jsync | I have an older edition of the library that depends upon a particular package that asks for edition-specific matches. |
| 08:46.38 | countdr | I understand. But it is a risk |
| 08:47.02 | themill | It's not a risk, it's flat out not possible. You'll need to fix the packages. |
| 08:47.11 | countdr | What is the difference between deb7u2 and deb7u4? |
| 08:47.18 | ratrace | themill: I think that's a chatbot |
| 08:47.47 | themill | countdr: only the person who knows what package this is can answer that question |
| 08:48.11 | countdr | Could look at the diff output. |
| 08:48.58 | countdr | Alright. How to extract a .deb file. dpkg -x |
| 08:49.13 | jsync | I only need the library file out of the package for the program to compile correctly. I'll just manually put the library file in the file system. |
| 08:49.59 | themill | jsync: it's very unusual to need exact versions of libraries like that to compile things. |
| 08:50.13 | themill | But without you actually telling us what you're doing, that's as much help as you can get here. |
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| 08:51.04 | zamuro | countdr apt-get source [package] would get you the files of a particular deb. |
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| 09:31.24 | g0zzy | Fortunately i took a backup of the whole root partition but i find after upgrading from Stretch to Buster my LAMP server has had its M removed!? I certainly didn't notice it warning me it was going to do this. I notice all the files are still under /var/lib/mysql. If i reinstall mariadb-server, is it likely to work? |
| 09:31.24 | g0zzy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:33.33 | countdr | Hmm. Perhaps they changed the name of the package? |
| 09:35.11 | g0zzy | It's pretty bad. I'm just looking in the apt logs for clues |
| 09:35.34 | countdr | Maybe the upgrade is still busy. apt-get -f install |
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| 09:37.12 | g0zzy | Hmm. I'll see what happens with that |
| 09:37.53 | g0zzy | No - it thinks nothing needs to be fixed ;) |
| 09:38.41 | countdr | Is it not just a different port though? |
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| 09:39.14 | g0zzy | Not sure i'm with you there |
| 09:39.24 | countdr | Oh right. You're not using a port |
| 09:39.58 | countdr | Do you still have the client program? |
| 09:40.13 | g0zzy | Think so, yes |
| 09:40.28 | countdr | The error you get is? |
| 09:41.28 | g0zzy | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 09:41.40 | countdr | (2) means file not found. |
| 09:42.14 | countdr | There are other reasons mysql/maria fails to start. Check /var/log free space |
| 09:42.47 | g0zzy | mariadb-server-10.1deinstall |
| 09:42.59 | countdr | df -h /var/log |
| 09:44.01 | g0zzy | 92G available |
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| 09:44.44 | countdr | I think what happened is the mariadb-server install package asked for user input, but couldn't get it |
| 09:44.55 | countdr | Just install that package |
| 09:44.57 | Ede|Popede | is it running? |
| 09:45.37 | g0zzy | Possibly |
| 09:46.32 | g0zzy | OK. I'll see what happens when i install it |
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| 09:46.49 | Ede|Popede | well, yay or nay? lsof -i -P |
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| 09:50.12 | g0zzy | Not running |
| 09:52.10 | g0zzy | /usr/sbin/mysqld no longer even present on the system |
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| 09:52.58 | countdr | gives a present to g0zzy |
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| 09:54.54 | g0zzy | Phew - running! Thanks folks |
| 09:55.09 | countdr | runs away |
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| 09:55.57 | zamba | how can i get an older version of a package installed on buster? |
| 09:56.00 | zamba | i'm trying to install perl 5.26 |
| 09:56.12 | g0zzy | Not quite out of the wood yet: Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress. |
| 09:56.27 | zamba | apt list -a perl only shows 5.28.1-6 |
| 09:56.44 | zamba | same with apt-cache policy perl |
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| 09:57.30 | countdr | g0zzy dpkg -l | grep |
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| 10:00.21 | Ede|Popede | ,v perl |
| 10:00.22 | judd | Package: perl on amd64 -- jessie: 5.20.2-3+deb8u11; jessie-security: 5.20.2-3+deb8u12; stretch: 5.24.1-3+deb9u5; stretch-security: 5.24.1-3+deb9u5; stretch-proposed-updates: 5.24.1-3+deb9u6; buster: 5.28.1-6; bullseye: 5.30.0-9; sid: 5.30.0-9; experimental: 5.30.1~rc1-1 |
| 10:01.07 | Ede|Popede | zamba, something wrong with 5.28? |
| 10:01.24 | g0zzy | php7.3-mysql is installed |
| 10:02.09 | Ede|Popede | did you install wordpress from the repo? |
| 10:02.50 | Ede|Popede | oh, and where does this message come from? |
| 10:03.22 | g0zzy | That's in the browser |
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| 10:04.06 | Ede|Popede | so probably generated by wordpress |
| 10:04.42 | g0zzy | THink it was installed from repo. I notice that is now marked deinstall |
| 10:05.05 | Ede|Popede | "the MySQL extension[â¦] required", yes. that's a clear info. |
| 10:05.39 | Ede|Popede | if it's newer than from the repo than maybe not |
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| 10:06.14 | Ede|Popede | and after uninstall it wouldn't throw errors |
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| 10:06.59 | g0zzy | Maybe there's an install in the web root of the site. How would i be able to test if there is? |
| 10:07.59 | Ede|Popede | /msg alis list wordpress |
| 10:08.15 | Ede|Popede | no idea which channel would be relevant, but they may know what it expects |
| 10:08.30 | Ede|Popede | filemanager? |
| 10:09.13 | Ede|Popede | may also be somewhere else and the httpd importing the directory (Alias in apache or such) |
| 10:09.19 | g0zzy | I'm just worried about installing again via repo as it might make things worse |
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| 10:11.05 | Ede|Popede | i once installed the newest mediawiki from their site, and then also apache. maybe also some php, can't remember. took some work, but is doable at the end of the dependency tree. |
| 10:11.19 | Ede|Popede | though i wouldn't like to replace perl |
| 10:11.50 | Ede|Popede | ofc you have to take care of updates yourself then |
| 10:12.39 | g0zzy | I just can't remember whether i installed WP into the web root |
| 10:13.16 | Ede|Popede | check it? |
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| 10:14.37 | g0zzy | Not quite sure what i'd look for. I mean there are wp directories there but maybe that's just normal |
| 10:15.10 | Ede|Popede | i'm not aware of any httpd coming with wp. unless it's lamp. |
| 10:16.26 | Ede|Popede | lampp |
| 10:16.30 | Ede|Popede | !lampp |
| 10:16.30 | dpkg | XAMPP for Linux (formerly LAMPP) is a way of installing lots of software that is already packaged for Debian. Don't use XAMPP, instead use aptitude install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server gettext perl libapache2-mod-perl2 sqlite webalizer mcrypt expat proftpd libpng3 libjpeg62 ... actually, just ask me about <search>. |
| 10:16.49 | Ede|Popede | never could se a reason using it on linux |
| 10:17.15 | g0zzy | I could have just unzipped WP into the web root, in which case it could be out of sync with the new php version |
| 10:19.10 | g0zzy | "wp core update" can be run in the webroot apparently |
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| 10:22.16 | Ede|Popede | no idea, didn't install it for a decade now |
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| 11:30.54 | b1ack0p | hi |
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| 12:27.00 | H2Q | hello, I am using debian 10, and have this annoyance of nautilus not opening at the start of desktop session. it opens after a good while from 5-15 minutes...though not being sure, it seems to be happening with distros upgraded from debian 9. does/has anyone here have/had this problem? or else how can I fix this? |
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| 12:27.28 | abrotman | check your var/log/messages for some error/connection issue? |
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| 12:35.15 | H2Q | I am connected. |
| 12:35.31 | H2Q | it is nautilus, not network-manager. why should it relate to connection? |
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| 12:49.14 | Mrbuck | hi under .cache directory I have mesa_shader_cache |
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| 12:49.27 | Mrbuck | which is suspicious to me. What are they? |
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| 13:00.23 | tomreyn | Mrbuck: suspicious how? mesa is the opengl graphics stack, shaders are software running on graphics chipsets. they can be cached as hardware specific binary code, speeding up repeat runs. |
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| 13:02.31 | Mrbuck | tomreyn: i don't know so that cache default on debian? |
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| 13:03.52 | tomreyn | the ~/.cache directory is specified by https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html - it's normal to have it. |
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| 13:09.35 | Mrbuck | tomreyn: not .cache but mesa_shader_cache |
| 13:11.04 | ayekat | just as a reference, ~/.cache/mesa_shader_cache is also there on other distributions, not just debian |
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| 13:15.15 | ayekat | and it seems perfectly reasonable to me for mesa to store compiled shaders somewhere for performance reason |
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| 13:18.07 | g0zzy1 | Dist upgraded to Buster and now Apache/PHP conmplely broken. Can't fix. "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress." |
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| 13:20.50 | abrotman | is it installed? did you check that it's enabled? |
| 13:21.18 | g0zzy1 | Apache? Yes it runs fine with a static site |
| 13:22.52 | g0zzy1 | phpmyadmin (which won't run) is saying that mysqli is not installed |
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| 13:24.18 | g0zzy1 | afaics mysqli is provided by php7.3-mysql, which IS installed |
| 13:25.06 | Mathisen | do you have multiple php versions installed ? |
| 13:25.53 | g0zzy1 | Yes. 7.0 and 7.3 |
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| 13:28.48 | Mathisen | and you sure apache is using 7.3 now then ? |
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| 13:30.00 | g0zzy1 | Well the weird thing is that when i start Apache i'd expect the accessed timestamp on php.ini to change. Or am i wrong there? |
| 13:30.43 | tomreyn | only on a file system that is configured to log access times |
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| 13:31.38 | ayekat | g0zzy1: which php module is loaded in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/? |
| 13:31.53 | ayekat | (or mod-enabled...? don't remember) |
| 13:32.31 | g0zzy1 | Both at the mo. I'm just disabling 7.0 to see what happens |
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| 13:33.51 | g0zzy1 | ayekat: THANK YOU (and Mathisen) . Disabling 7.0 did the business |
| 13:34.45 | ayekat | nice |
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| 14:20.52 | eb0t | hey i have buster installed but keep getting an error on boot .... flip_done timed out |
| 14:21.02 | eb0t | i have modified /etc/default/grub |
| 14:21.07 | eb0t | but i need to update grub |
| 14:21.15 | eb0t | i cant update-grub on debian |
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| 14:21.20 | eb0t | how do you do it |
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| 14:25.43 | abrotman | why can't you update-grub? |
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| 14:26.08 | wwilliam | Hello I am trying to install ShrewSoft VPN on buster unsuccesfully trying to mimic this: https://techedemic.com/2015/10/14/installing-shrewsoft-vpn-on-ubuntu-14-04/ |
| 14:26.44 | wwilliam | I am getting all kind of dependency errors is it possible is there another vpn service that i can use in buster? |
| 14:27.03 | eb0t | abrotman command not found |
| 14:27.03 | mount | yo!, my fellows are never awake when i try to catch them, so i ask here. Anyone have an good idea to run .iso files on parrot os?, i find it rly challengin with every method that it can be done with normal debian. |
| 14:27.10 | abrotman | eb0t: are you root? |
| 14:27.12 | wwilliam | client I meant. |
| 14:27.14 | eb0t | yes |
| 14:27.24 | abrotman | mount: there's a whole channel for parrot, this isn't it |
| 14:27.38 | jelly | wwilliam: again, what kind of vpn concentrator / server are you trying to connect to? There may be alternative vpn client software that works better than something last released in 2013 |
| 14:27.40 | eb0t | yes abrotman i am root ..one sec let me look at my path |
| 14:27.46 | mount | yeah, but they dont answer never. quess too bussy |
| 14:27.50 | abrotman | eb0t:right, echo $PATH as root |
| 14:28.01 | jelly | wwilliam: for example, "vpnc" for cisco ipsec based vpn |
| 14:28.06 | eb0t | ah thanks its something to do with su |
| 14:28.10 | abrotman | wwilliam: can you show us the errors? |
| 14:28.13 | wwilliam | oh ok checking..... |
| 14:28.15 | abrotman | eb0t: try 'su -' |
| 14:28.20 | eb0t | when i switch from user to root environment aint changed |
| 14:28.22 | eb0t | thanks abrotman |
| 14:28.24 | wwilliam | http://paste.debian.net/1129631/ |
| 14:28.26 | abrotman | then run update-grub |
| 14:28.34 | wwilliam | sorry too old |
| 14:28.37 | abrotman | wwilliam: 404 |
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| 14:29.24 | wwilliam | yes hold on please you will see number im getting that paste from that open old url |
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| 14:30.06 | wwilliam | http://paste.debian.net/1129770/ |
| 14:30.32 | wwilliam | jelly: checking.... |
| 14:31.12 | wwilliam | I was able to do it in PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" |
| 14:32.10 | wwilliam | ipsec jelly |
| 14:33.21 | jelly | wwilliam: which specific vendor? |
| 14:33.37 | jelly | and hardware model |
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| 14:33.58 | wwilliam | That I dont know admin didnt provide that. |
| 14:34.07 | jelly | can you ask them |
| 14:34.26 | wwilliam | i have all the settings to connect which im able to do from Jessie. |
| 14:34.36 | S3xyL1nux | âis ubuntu a clone of debian |
| 14:34.38 | wwilliam | but I wanted to install here. |
| 14:34.46 | wwilliam | !ubuntu |
| 14:34.46 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:34.50 | jelly | wwilliam: I'd try to use vpnc or openconnect. |
| 14:35.14 | wwilliam | is that installed by default and I use network manager for that? |
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| 14:35.32 | wwilliam | checking |
| 14:35.38 | jelly | not installed by default, but both have N-M integration I think |
| 14:36.14 | jelly | apt-cache search vpnc |
| 14:36.32 | S3xyL1nux | âubuntu repo lacks of updates |
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| 14:37.06 | wwilliam | apt-cache policy vpnc |
| 14:37.07 | jelly | S3xyL1nux: Debian has even less updates than Ubuntu 6-monthly releases tend to have, |
| 14:37.08 | wwilliam | vpnc: |
| 14:37.09 | wwilliam | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.10 | S3xyL1nux | âeach time i got to ubdate manually |
| 14:37.13 | wwilliam | will install.... |
| 14:37.39 | jelly | wwilliam: it's more than just that if you want network-manager stuff |
| 14:37.51 | S3xyL1nux | âi mean the 'apt upgrade' |
| 14:39.37 | jelly | S3xyL1nux: you or your irc client is sending private messages, please fix that if it's automatic, and if you're doing it manually, it's typically not nice to PM without asking first |
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| 14:41.34 | jelly | S3xyL1nux: looked like this: <S3xyL1nux> type the answer in numeric... |
| 14:42.23 | S3xyL1nux | âyea i got to take this of from my irc script but lazy |
| 14:42.25 | abrotman | in numeric? |
| 14:42.40 | S3xyL1nux | âit an auto reply shit |
| 14:42.58 | S3xyL1nux | âquite smart ha |
| 14:43.08 | abrotman | ITYM annoying .. |
| 14:43.26 | S3xyL1nux | âstop talking to it then |
| 14:43.31 | jelly | S3xyL1nux: disable it while you're in here, please, many people frown on unsolicited PM |
| 14:43.33 | abrotman | I'm not ... |
| 14:44.18 | S3xyL1nux | âyou get the reply of you msg me first |
| 14:44.19 | jelly | I did not talk to your client in PM, and still got two of those. |
| 14:44.24 | S3xyL1nux | âotherwise no |
| 14:44.34 | S3xyL1nux | âcoz i hate reply to ppl |
| 14:44.48 | jelly | S3xyL1nux: only addressed you in channel. If it's supposed to only reply to PM, then it's buggy |
| 14:44.56 | S3xyL1nux | âyou must did talked to it |
| 14:45.00 | S3xyL1nux | âcheck your client |
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| 14:45.30 | abrotman | solved! |
| 14:45.34 | jelly | well if I must have... |
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| 14:45.45 | S3xyL1nux | âyea it reply to notice too |
| 14:45.47 | abrotman | Not solved ... |
| 14:45.48 | jelly | S3xyL1nux: let's retest |
| 14:46.04 | abrotman | S3xyL1nux: it's your IRC client .. or get a new one |
| 14:46.07 | jelly | [14:44] <S3xyL1nux> type the answer in numeric... |
| 14:46.16 | jelly | S3xyL1nux: it's your client. Fix it. |
| 14:46.29 | S3xyL1nux | âat the end it say fuck off then died |
| 14:46.41 | S3xyL1nux | âthats it ,, then he shut up |
| 14:47.04 | jelly | I don't care, disable that crap while you're in here |
| 14:47.28 | S3xyL1nux | âi find it funny , make me laugh too , will keep it |
| 14:48.16 | jelly | S3xyL1nux: then I have no other solution but to keep your client out of this channel, that is, ban you, and I'd like to avoid that |
| 14:48.31 | S3xyL1nux | âoh here we go again |
| 14:48.47 | jelly | so pretty please disable that |
| 14:49.01 | S3xyL1nux | âno way i am disabling it |
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| 14:49.13 | jelly | shrugs |
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| 14:56.53 | jelly | two days dungeon! |
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| 15:10.13 | wwilliam | network manager is not showing any options to configure a vpn after installing: |
| 15:10.39 | wwilliam | apt-get install kvpnc kvpnc-dbg network-manager-vpnc vpnc vpnc-scripts |
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| 15:10.59 | wwilliam | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:17.12 | wwilliam | this is so different from jesse in jesse i click on the little monitor screen and click the little wrench and a connection editor opens not here. in buster. |
| 15:19.03 | wwilliam | oh OK got it have to click on the + |
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| 15:26.38 | wwilliam | a .vpn file could be the same as an .ovpn file? |
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| 15:28.15 | jelly | probably not |
| 15:30.02 | wwilliam | when i export from the jesse the vpn config file the output is .vpn |
| 15:30.26 | wwilliam | from command line what would be the best client to use with this export file |
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| 15:30.59 | wwilliam | .vpn that is. |
| 15:31.47 | wwilliam | well with shrew soft all this was really easy but i can not install it here in buster like I did In Jesse. :( |
| 15:32.19 | wwilliam | I just import the .vpn file and enter my user name and password and done tunnel enabled |
| 15:32.26 | wwilliam | iked has to be running..... |
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| 15:40.02 | jsync | Hello. I need to H4k02 up my system, & I need some advice. |
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| 15:44.16 | azy | whats the best mind mapping software? |
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| 15:44.31 | wwilliam | ok i made progress sort of ....there is a setting to import saved vpn configuration which i do but the connection dont show in network manager after importing. |
| 15:44.48 | jsync | I need particular libraries for some programs I'm working on, & there are install conflicts for the libraries. To make things easier on myself, I want to use what's sufficient of what I need. I get terminal readout with apt: Unmet dependencies. libsuchnso-dev depends on packagesuchnso-deb2u4u, though packagesuchnso-deb2u6u is to be installed. |
| 15:45.36 | countdr | jsync: You could use a virtual machine. |
| 15:46.29 | jsync | It's a Wheezy system that I want to keep a Wheezy system because I've worked with it for a long time & I like it. |
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| 15:47.46 | jsync | Though I want these libraries. My system is on an intranet in my house. I just don't want bad apt behavior, though I want these libraries. |
| 15:47.54 | wwilliam | I cant believe im not going to be able to do this in Buster. |
| 15:48.21 | wwilliam | everything in google is for .ovpn files not for .vpn files |
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| 15:48.56 | jsync | I hate Nautilus in Buster. I did like Gnomes' Epiphany improvements though. It's getting there. |
| 15:50.14 | countdr | Sherlock Gnomes |
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| 15:50.44 | Akuw | i am trying to configure a bluetooth mouse using "hcitool scan" |
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| 15:50.59 | Akuw | it find another device, but not my Microsoft mouse |
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| 15:51.13 | Akuw | that mouse was paired with another computer using windows |
| 15:51.22 | Akuw | and no problem |
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| 15:53.15 | jelly | wwilliam: you'll have to manually enter all the coniguration data and hope your vpn server is, actually, vpnc compatible |
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| 15:55.54 | wwilliam | admin did not provide the key he just said to import the .vpn file which worked in shrewsoft in Jesse. |
| 15:56.14 | wwilliam | If I just could install that shrewsoft in buster.... |
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| 16:00.26 | wwilliam | Can anyone with sometime and patience in their hands help me to install this in Buster? |
| 16:00.28 | wwilliam | http://paste.debian.net/1129791/ |
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| 16:02.09 | aypea[0] | wwilliam: do you use network manager on this box? |
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| 16:03.11 | wwilliam | is installed |
| 16:03.12 | wwilliam | yes |
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| 16:03.27 | wwilliam | but the problem is admin dont want to give |
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| 16:04.05 | wwilliam | the preshared key |
| 16:04.17 | wwilliam | he just said to export and import |
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| 16:04.45 | wwilliam | like I said this works in Jesse because the above package installed. |
| 16:04.56 | wwilliam | but dont install in buster. |
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| 16:06.15 | wwilliam | this is in that .vpn configuration file: |
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| 16:06.43 | wwilliam | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/9f07477e/ |
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| 16:08.02 | aypea[0] | wwilliam: looks like your preshared key is in there (the psk). it's mime encoded I think. either way the security of your vpn may be buggered since you shared. |
| 16:08.42 | wwilliam | well after that i need username and password no? |
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| 16:09.19 | aypea[0] | possibly. I don't. if he gave you those then yes |
| 16:09.53 | wwilliam | I know I need to enter username and password in Jesse. |
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| 16:10.23 | wwilliam | ok so using that info what can i use in network manager to connect to that vpn? |
| 16:10.38 | aypea[0] | should do. your psk is, erm: 12345678 |
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| 16:11.24 | wwilliam | which one of all the connections offered in network manager i should use? |
| 16:11.34 | aypea[0] | hmm. one sec. |
| 16:11.38 | wwilliam | Thanks |
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| 16:12.20 | aypea[0] | make sure network-manager-strongswan is installed and give that a go. that should be the one |
| 16:12.40 | wwilliam | ok that one is installed . |
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| 16:12.50 | wwilliam | Ok thank you aypea[0] trying..... |
| 16:13.15 | aypea[0] | going off to brush teeth. 3:15am. will be back. |
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| 16:18.22 | aypea[0] | back |
| 16:19.28 | wwilliam | Cant figure it out thank you all I will install jesse as vm here.... |
| 16:19.32 | wwilliam | !jesse |
| 16:19.32 | dpkg | No, the Debian release is "jessie". Ask me about <jessie>. |
| 16:19.39 | wwilliam | !jessie |
| 16:19.40 | dpkg | Jessie is the codename for the current <oldoldstable> release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25. Security support ended 2018-05-17, repos removed from mirrors around 2019-03-24, except for <jessie-lts>. Jessie is the cowgirl in Toy Story 2. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie and ask me about <install jessie> <jessie release notes> <wheezy->jessie>. Last point release was <8.11>. |
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| 16:20.05 | wwilliam | !install jessie |
| 16:20.05 | dpkg | Debian 8 "Jessie" installation images are available from https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/debian-installer/ . Note that this release has been superseded by Debian 9 "Stretch", ask me about <install debian>. |
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| 16:20.43 | aypea[0] | wwilliam: where are you getting lost? |
| 16:21.02 | wwilliam | gateway? |
| 16:21.10 | wwilliam | certificate? |
| 16:21.13 | aypea[0] | wwilliam: the ip of your vpn end point |
| 16:21.18 | aypea[0] | wwilliam: no cert, psk |
| 16:21.19 | wwilliam | ok got that |
| 16:21.36 | wwilliam | i dont have a psk |
| 16:21.46 | aypea[0] | wwilliam: you do: 12345678 |
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| 16:22.06 | wwilliam | but is asking me to browse |
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| 16:22.22 | aypea[0] | wwilliam: don't click on cert |
| 16:22.36 | wwilliam | just type it? |
| 16:22.37 | aypea[0] | wwilliam: ignore it. just move to client and select psk for ath |
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| 16:23.46 | wwilliam | in Authentication I chose Certificate/private key |
| 16:24.05 | aypea[0] | no. unless you have a cert and key. afaik you have a psk |
| 16:24.06 | wwilliam | but on the bottom again wants me to browse |
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| 16:24.30 | wwilliam | for Certificate,Private Key, Private Key password |
| 16:24.53 | aypea[0] | the auth dropdown should have preshared key as an option |
| 16:25.02 | wwilliam | ok so far only the ip and port are in the "gateway" |
| 16:25.27 | wwilliam | It doesnt |
| 16:25.40 | wwilliam | only Certification/private key |
| 16:25.49 | wwilliam | EAP |
| 16:25.54 | wwilliam | Smart card |
| 16:25.56 | wwilliam | and |
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| 16:26.16 | wwilliam | Certificate-sshagent |
| 16:26.20 | wwilliam | that is all |
| 16:26.28 | aypea[0] | that's... a mite odd. |
| 16:26.56 | aypea[0] | this is buster, right? |
| 16:26.58 | wwilliam | may be i need to use something else in Network Manager? |
| 16:27.24 | wwilliam | PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)" |
| 16:27.32 | aypea[0] | hrm |
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| 16:28.57 | aypea[0] | gnome or kde? |
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| 16:29.21 | joze | ja |
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| 16:31.32 | martin-_-_ | hi, |
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| 16:33.05 | sbug | aypea[0]: I just tried installing network-manager-strongswan in a VM and I also only see the same options. (Buster/KDE) |
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| 16:33.29 | martin-_-_ | does anybody know which desktop system Harmony OS is using? kde? enlightment? gnome? |
| 16:34.02 | wwilliam | aypea[0]: KDE |
| 16:34.15 | aypea[0] | interesting. xfce here |
| 16:35.12 | filpAM | How I change the /boot to be on its own partition? The /boot directory is located directly inside the root filesystem rather than being a mountpoint to a dedicated partiton for grub files(smh, is that default?) |
| 16:35.12 | aypea[0] | anyhow. 3:30am and so I must snooze. sorry I couldn't get you (much) closter to a solution. |
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| 16:35.54 | wwilliam | Thank you aypea[0] for your time and effort, back to square 1. |
| 16:36.00 | aypea[0] | filpAM: shouldn't matter. my /boot is an lvm logical volume. |
| 16:36.11 | wwilliam | !install debian |
| 16:36.11 | dpkg | There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 16:36.14 | sbug | aypea[0] wwilliam in my other VM withi GNOME I do have that option! |
| 16:36.27 | sbug | pre shared key |
| 16:36.41 | wwilliam | I dont like gnome. |
| 16:36.47 | wwilliam | sbug: thank you. |
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| 16:37.40 | annadane | happy 10.3 :-) |
| 16:37.42 | filpAM | wwilliam, but I don't want to install again, but move /boot to its own partition (and make /boot a mountpoint to that parittion) as stated above with the current installed debian |
| 16:38.07 | sbug | aypea[0]: hu? new point release out? |
| 16:38.26 | sbug | sorry annadane * |
| 16:38.27 | wwilliam | god flimpie you barking to the wrong tree flimpie im an idiot. |
| 16:38.42 | annadane | yep |
| 16:38.50 | sbug | yay \o/ :) |
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| 16:39.03 | annadane | you probably should subscribe to debian-announce |
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| 16:39.28 | annadane | though that particular email hasn't quite been sent out yet |
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| 16:39.35 | martin-_-_ | I would like a desktop manager which looks like Harmony OS, can someone suggest a dm 4me? |
| 16:39.40 | annadane | i guess it's because i'm subscribed to debian-devel-announce |
| 16:39.47 | sbug | hum ok |
| 16:39.55 | ratrace | annadane: 'twas few days ago |
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| 16:41.01 | ratrace | debian-stable-announce, 2020-02-03, [SUA 177-1] Upcoming Debian 10 Update (10.3) |
| 16:41.17 | annadane | this is literally the first time i hear about that mailing list lol |
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| 17:20.06 | user217_ | cant see any update for "flatpack" package (still using 0.89) Any ideas how to fix this? |
| 17:21.40 | jelly | ,v flatpak |
| 17:21.41 | judd | Package: flatpak on amd64 -- stretch-security: 0.8.9-0+deb9u2; stretch: 0.8.9-0+deb9u3; stretch-backports: 1.2.5-0+deb10u1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.2.5-0+deb10u1; bullseye: 1.6.1-1; sid: 1.6.1-1 |
| 17:21.58 | jelly | user217_: which debian release are you using? |
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| 17:26.43 | user217_ | jelly: https://termbin.com/i6zp |
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| 17:27.55 | jelly | user217_: that LMDE sounds like Mint, not Debian |
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| 17:28.45 | jelly | if it were Debian I'd suggest enabling stretch-backports and installing from there, but I have no idea if that would break a LMDE installation |
| 17:28.49 | user217_ | jelly: but it on debian, right? |
| 17:28.51 | jelly | !lmde |
| 17:28.51 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 17:29.13 | user217_ | ok.sorry.thank you for help |
| 17:29.40 | jelly | if you don't care about breaking your system, |
| 17:29.45 | jelly | !bpo |
| 17:29.45 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <buster backports>) and oldstable (<stretch backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 17:29.53 | jelly | !stretch backports |
| 17:29.54 | dpkg | Some packages intended for Buster (Debian 10) but recompiled for use with "Stretch" (9.x) can be found in the "stretch-backports" repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . A suitable line for your sources.list is "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main". Also ask me about <bdo>. |
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| 17:44.18 | ndorf | what's the recommended software to use to rip an audio CD to FLAC? is pacpl good? |
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| 17:50.43 | InvisibleRasta | ndorf, i know there is also ABCDE |
| 17:50.46 | InvisibleRasta | for ripping |
| 17:50.55 | sponix | jelly: I've had good experiences with backports so far (fingers crossed) |
| 17:51.42 | ratrace | ndorf: you can use ffmpeg directly on the CD device as source |
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| 17:51.59 | jelly | sponix: but you're running Debian, else you wouldn't be here. Right? Right?? :-) |
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| 17:53.11 | ndorf | thanks InvisibleRasta and ratrace |
| 17:53.19 | sponix | jelly: Umm... Well ... I do have a few VM's running Debian - does that count ? |
| 17:53.37 | ndorf | sponix: that's how it starts |
| 17:53.54 | jelly | it does, just as long as you're not asking questions about other stuff, or providing answers based on other stuff |
| 17:54.20 | wwilliam | oot@stretch:/home/wwilliam# VBoxManage extpack install 6.0.16 |
| 17:54.21 | wwilliam | bash: VBoxManage: command not found |
| 17:54.39 | wwilliam | how do i install that VBoxManage command? |
| 17:55.02 | jelly | judd: file bin/VBoxManage |
| 17:55.07 | judd | No packages in buster/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 17:55.08 | InvisibleRasta | i think that the best way to install virtualbox as of now is directly with the deb file from oracle's website |
| 17:55.20 | sponix | jelly: I attempt to color within the lines most of the time. Shouldn't have too many problems from me :) |
| 17:55.41 | wwilliam | stretch now |
| 17:55.45 | wwilliam | virtual |
| 17:55.55 | sponix | wwilliam: what method did you use to install vbox ? |
| 17:55.57 | wwilliam | trying to install the vmextentions |
| 17:56.10 | wwilliam | sorry |
| 17:56.15 | wwilliam | this is buster |
| 17:56.29 | wwilliam | I think it was already install? |
| 17:56.54 | ndorf | are you sure you want VirtualBox specifically? KVM with virt-manager works just as well if not better, and is in the debian packages |
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| 17:57.05 | ratrace | hear hear |
| 17:57.09 | ndorf | the UI is less polished, but enough to get everything done. and the command line is much better |
| 17:57.36 | sponix | wwilliam: what method did you use to install vbox ? |
| 17:57.39 | wwilliam | yes at this moment I want that. |
| 17:57.54 | wwilliam | sponix: I dont remember this was a while back |
| 17:58.04 | wwilliam | is the first time I use it |
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| 17:58.22 | wwilliam | to install stretch that i need to install shrewsoft |
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| 17:58.36 | sponix | wwilliam: hmm.. Well if you downloaded the file.deb from the website, there is a matching one for the extensions there also |
| 17:58.47 | wwilliam | which is installed now i just need to import the .vpn that is in usb flash |
| 17:59.00 | ndorf | the vbox guest extensions ISO *is* in buster packages fwiw. |
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| 17:59.02 | wwilliam | I have the extentions already |
| 17:59.12 | wwilliam | I need the command to install them |
| 17:59.23 | ndorf | you install them in the guest |
| 17:59.26 | ndorf | by mounting the iso file |
| 17:59.37 | ndorf | or in debian, installing the package |
| 17:59.38 | wwilliam | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23164167 Jan 14 09:22 Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.16.vbox-extpac |
| 18:00.10 | ratrace | kicks the OVH debian mirror hoping that would get it to sync 10.3 sooner.... |
| 18:00.12 | wwilliam | that is what i have is not the guest additions |
| 18:00.14 | ndorf | oh wait, sorry. i might be confusing extensions with guest additions. |
| 18:00.18 | wwilliam | that I already did |
| 18:00.25 | wwilliam | is the extention pack. |
| 18:00.39 | sponix | wwilliam: you have to "add" the extensions from withing the vbox prefs |
| 18:00.58 | wwilliam | so I browse to the dir and add? |
| 18:01.15 | sponix | wwilliam: in vbox, go to "file" then "preferences" then in there hit "extensions" and make sure it is added in there |
| 18:01.19 | sponix | wwilliam: yep |
| 18:01.27 | wwilliam | OK checking |
| 18:01.55 | sponix | you _might_ have an issue with that being root:root and need to chown it to your user, not 100% sure on that.. I don't root around much |
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| 18:02.06 | wwilliam | oh OK |
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| 18:02.27 | wwilliam | yes i am not able to see it from oraclevbox chowning |
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| 18:03.17 | sponix | wwilliam: Ideal would be for it to be owned by your user:group and be in some place you can access easily like $HOME/Downloads ;) |
| 18:03.19 | wwilliam | rw-r--r-- 1 wwilliam wwilliam 23164167 Jan 14 09:22 Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.16.vbox-extpack |
| 18:03.29 | sponix | umm, I meant ~/Downloads |
| 18:04.03 | sponix | ndorf: I deal with vbox way too much |
| 18:04.20 | ndorf | clearly :) |
| 18:04.25 | wwilliam | still vbox do not see it. |
| 18:04.53 | ndorf | it doesn't see the file? or it just doesn't want to add it? |
| 18:05.02 | ndorf | what are the permissions on the directory? (ls -ld) |
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| 18:05.04 | wwilliam | I press plus |
| 18:05.09 | wwilliam | the dir opens |
| 18:05.26 | wwilliam | the package is in /home/wwilliam |
| 18:05.35 | wwilliam | I browse there dont show |
| 18:05.40 | ndorf | weird |
| 18:05.43 | wwilliam | yes |
| 18:05.45 | ndorf | is there a dropdown labeled "file types" in there? |
| 18:05.51 | wwilliam | yes |
| 18:05.54 | ndorf | if so, what file type is it expecting by default? |
| 18:05.55 | sponix | wwilliam: hmm, chmod 777 blah-extpack and try again :) |
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| 18:06.04 | wwilliam | ha ha ha ok |
| 18:06.16 | ndorf | if the filename is not even showing up, it's probably not permissions on the file itself |
| 18:06.33 | ndorf | it could be your directory not being readable, what does ls -ld /home/wwilliam say? |
| 18:06.39 | wwilliam | root@stretch:/home/wwilliam# ls -l Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.16.vbox-extpack |
| 18:06.41 | wwilliam | -rwxrwxrwx 1 wwilliam wwilliam 23164167 Jan 14 09:22 Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.16.vbox-extpack |
| 18:07.14 | sponix | wwilliam: umm, I just have to ask this -- are you in fact running X (the GUI) as root ? or Vbox process itself ? |
| 18:07.34 | wwilliam | GUI not as root as wwilliam |
| 18:07.43 | sponix | okay |
| 18:08.03 | wwilliam | may be a reboot? |
| 18:08.14 | wwilliam | brb will reboot |
| 18:08.18 | ndorf | doubt that will help |
| 18:08.25 | ndorf | but you still haven't checked the dir permissions? |
| 18:08.28 | wwilliam | oh shit |
| 18:08.32 | wwilliam | im an idiot |
| 18:08.34 | wwilliam | ha ha ah |
| 18:08.37 | ndorf | what happened? |
| 18:08.50 | wwilliam | the package is in the VM ha ha ha !!!! |
| 18:08.55 | ndorf | oops :) |
| 18:09.33 | sponix | wwilliam: so you want to prefs on the VM itself, instead of the main vbox prefs section ? |
| 18:09.49 | ndorf | the file is coming from inside the house!! |
| 18:10.20 | wwilliam | OK Done. |
| 18:10.26 | wwilliam | ha ha oh God... |
| 18:10.32 | sponix | Oh.. I get it now, the file you downloaded is inside the VM, not inside the Host OS where it should be :P |
| 18:10.43 | sponix | that explains a lot |
| 18:10.44 | wwilliam | Thanks sponix for your time, patience and knowledge. |
| 18:11.04 | wwilliam | ok now lets see if my usb3 works |
| 18:11.09 | sponix | wwilliam: well, now with the ext pack installed for the vbox HOST OS, you do the "guest additions" inside the VM's themselves also |
| 18:11.22 | sponix | for best results, you need to do both ;) |
| 18:11.43 | wwilliam | i did . |
| 18:12.23 | sponix | ndorf: I need to transfer back over to kvm myself, but been to lazy.. Plus I end up teaching n00bz vbox all the time, so always have it up one way or another anyway :P |
| 18:12.49 | ndorf | honestly back when i used VBox, i procrastinated trying kvm for the longest time |
| 18:12.55 | ndorf | and then when i finally did... it was just as easy |
| 18:12.59 | sponix | ndorf: virt-manager needs to establish the bridge interface for me |
| 18:13.03 | ndorf | easier, actually, since there's no need for extensions and additions :) |
| 18:13.17 | ndorf | you mean the default network? |
| 18:13.22 | InvisibleRasta | wwilliam, maybe you have to type /usr/sbin/VboxManage.... your path might not be set properly |
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| 18:13.37 | wwilliam | InvisibleRasta: is installed thank you. |
| 18:13.50 | sponix | ndorf: Yeah, I like to run all my VM's in bridge mode so they get their own IP on my lan, makes the easier to manage at the router |
| 18:14.02 | ndorf | that's easy to do in virt-manager i think? |
| 18:14.18 | ndorf | i use 'routed' networks myself but i could swear bridged was an option in the gui |
| 18:14.22 | sponix | ndorf: well, I will look again in the near future. I need kvm for gpu passthrough anyway |
| 18:15.32 | ndorf | sponix: i just looked and i think it's just labeled poorly, "forwarded to physical network" seems to mean bridged |
| 18:15.41 | ndorf | at least, there is a subsequent list of NICs from the host that show up |
| 18:15.52 | wwilliam | hmmm |
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| 18:16.44 | wwilliam | the usb is not detected on the vm |
| 18:16.46 | ndorf | hm, actually you might be right, that's not a bridge |
| 18:17.20 | wwilliam | I have 2.0 in the vm settings... |
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| 18:17.45 | ndorf | oh, duh. you don't create a new virtual network for that. you just select "bridged" when setting up the VM itself, specifically the virtual NIC |
| 18:17.52 | backnforth | Which DVD installer should I go with? |
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| 18:18.26 | ndorf | backnforth: netinst |
| 18:18.32 | ndorf | (IMO) |
| 18:18.42 | backnforth | I'm looking for somethig easy |
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| 18:19.01 | backnforth | I tried using the CD installer and the installation failed on my desktop |
| 18:19.02 | ndorf | netinst is just as easy as the full dvd IMO |
| 18:19.08 | backnforth | Oh is it |
| 18:19.14 | ndorf | it failed? what was the error? |
| 18:19.36 | backnforth | "CD-ROM drive contains a CD which cannot be used for installation" |
| 18:22.47 | jelly | backnforth: is it an actual burned cd, or a usb stick? |
| 18:23.12 | jelly | or something else |
| 18:24.01 | backnforth | usb stick |
| 18:24.29 | jelly | !usb install |
| 18:24.29 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
| 18:25.09 | jelly | backnforth: you need to overwrite the whole usb stick device with the iso image, do NOT use tools like unetbootin |
| 18:25.17 | backnforth | I used dd |
| 18:25.20 | backnforth | with the iso |
| 18:25.34 | jelly | do you remember the exact dd command you used? |
| 18:25.51 | backnforth | dd if=debian-image.iso of=/dev/sda |
| 18:25.57 | backnforth | sda being the usb stick |
| 18:26.15 | jelly | that seems fine |
| 18:26.38 | backnforth | I'd like to try another installer anyways |
| 18:26.47 | backnforth | DVD seems nicer since it comes with more software |
| 18:27.08 | jelly | they have the same code and are created the same way; it would be unusual if they did not behave the same |
| 18:28.10 | wwilliam | OK the vpn isssue was sort of resolved, I install stretch in a vm install ike* import the .vpn and voila. shame this can not be done in buster. |
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| 18:28.31 | wwilliam | Thank you all for your time knowledge and patience. |
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| 18:31.56 | jelly | I still suspect you can use vpnc for that ipsec psk connection, but hey, if it works... |
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| 18:38.06 | wwilliam | ok jelly lets try then |
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| 18:39.42 | asdfgqwerty | Does anyone use firewalld on buster? It has been broken since release and I can't find a fix. |
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| 18:45.02 | backnforth | Hi, I just tried installing DVD 3 to my USB stick using dd, and I got an I/O error in the process |
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| 18:46.25 | countdr | backnforth: There is a hash you can check the iso file |
| 18:46.51 | ndorf | I/O error while writing the image? |
| 18:47.00 | ndorf | that probably means your USB stick is bad. or possibly the USB port. |
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| 18:48.36 | sponix | backnforth: you don't need the whole DVD set -- Just use the netinstall and have it retrieve whatever you want from there |
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| 18:54.05 | backnforth | Thanks ndorf sponix |
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| 18:58.19 | ndorf | I had a USB stick go bad recently too. Same thing, I/O Error |
| 18:58.36 | ndorf | If you have a different stick handy I'd try that |
| 19:00.10 | sponix | ndorf: I can only recall one going bad, was a fancy Corsair one also. Rest of the time I lose them, or give them away prior to them giving out :P |
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| 19:02.23 | ndorf | yup, same here |
| 19:02.38 | backnforth | It's going through with a different usb stick and using netinst |
| 19:02.39 | ndorf | this one was an Adata. and maybe i did something like get it too hot or wet, i dunno |
| 19:02.46 | ndorf | backnforth: excellent! |
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| 19:03.17 | ndorf | netinst is preferable IMO because you always get the latest packages, not installing possibly outdated ones from the DVD just to update them immediately |
| 19:03.28 | sponix | ndorf: I think it was "user error" .. I've had good luck with Adata so far :) |
| 19:03.39 | wwilliam | jelly nothing... I also didnt see any settings here for psk |
| 19:04.05 | ndorf | sponix: well i have like four or five other Adatas, including two from the same package, and they all work. could be i broke it somehow, or just luck of the draw |
| 19:04.20 | backnforth | Here we go \o/ |
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| 19:06.29 | jelly | wwilliam: I used to connect to my work vpn (ipsec xauth psk) using vpnc, it has to be somewhere |
| 19:08.07 | wwilliam | vpnc option is there what i dont see is where to put th psk. |
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| 19:10.38 | jelly | wwilliam: "group password" |
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| 19:11.24 | wwilliam | that is the psk? because I dont have any group. |
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| 19:13.12 | jelly | yes, when you use Android's IPSEC XAUTH PSK it's called "ipsec pre-shared key". But there's usually a group name. |
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| 19:13.54 | wwilliam | Let me look, I see a domain |
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| 19:14.56 | wwilliam | ok testing again..... |
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| 19:20.20 | ekaj | Could someone running debian 10 post the output of "sha256sum $(which mkdir)" ? |
| 19:21.18 | jelly | ekaj: which architecture debian 10? |
| 19:21.23 | sbug | 49bcc51087a41459b4b2304d05ee50f9c8e217fc23548cd80f13d1d89a6269bf /usr/bin/mkdir for amd64 |
| 19:21.25 | wwilliam | root@Inspiron:/home/wwilliam/Documents# sha256sum $(which mkdir) |
| 19:21.26 | wwilliam | 49bcc51087a41459b4b2304d05ee50f9c8e217fc23548cd80f13d1d89a6269bf /usr/bin/mkdir |
| 19:21.34 | jelly | ekaj: amd64? i386? something else? |
| 19:21.36 | ekaj | amd64, ty vm |
| 19:21.51 | wwilliam | jelly: no good did not connect clicking on connect does nothing. |
| 19:23.08 | jelly | ,v coreutils |
| 19:23.09 | judd | Package: coreutils on amd64 -- jessie: 8.23-4; stretch: 8.26-3; buster: 8.30-3; bullseye: 8.30-3+b1; sid: 8.30-3+b1 |
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| 19:24.04 | jelly | wwilliam: oh well, it was worth a try |
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| 19:24.39 | sbug | wwilliam: do you need to use a GUI? There is an example in 'man vpnc' for hotwo setup a config with pre shared key |
| 19:25.00 | wwilliam | no I can do it from cml |
| 19:25.11 | converge | I want to install Debian, and my b43 wireless card isn't recognized. To install the non-free firmware dvd version, are the steps 1. Download the dvd iso image for the non free firmware, 2. Download the compressed firmware file 3. Uncompress this file into /firmware folder 4. Init the installation? |
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| 19:27.05 | countdr | converge. Ubuntu |
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| 19:28.47 | converge | countdr, I prefer Debian |
| 19:29.10 | countdr | Alright then. The firmware file might not be enough. You might need Debian testing + firmware |
| 19:29.27 | neox | Backport kernel could be sufficient |
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| 19:31.17 | converge | countdr, I downloaded the testing firmware version here https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ , I was expecting it to provide me the b43 driver I need to detect the wireless card, am I wrong? |
| 19:31.34 | countdr | "I was expecting it" does it work? |
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| 19:31.56 | converge | countdr, no, sounds like there is no new driver installed at all |
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| 19:32.49 | countdr | Can we backport unstable kernel to debian testing? |
| 19:32.55 | countdr | That is Ubuntu |
| 19:33.07 | converge | I also downloaded the firmware.tar.gz from here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/testing/current/ , into /firmware folder of my usb stick with the debian installation usb stick |
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| 19:37.21 | sponix | converge: umm, I would just use the non-free netinstall off a USB stick -- should work out |
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| 19:38.43 | converge | sponix, this one? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 19:40.00 | sponix | converge: not sure about the testing part.. I would do stable Debian 10.2 |
| 19:40.27 | tomg | ratrace, thanks, but I tried that and exim ives the error that it can't understand : as an IP address |
| 19:40.38 | tomg | i've got to go i'll continue this later |
| 19:41.14 | ratrace | tomg: [::] |
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| 19:43.40 | tomg | thanks, but I tried that too, same error about not recognising : as an IP address |
| 19:44.14 | tomg | meanwhile i have it working fine on my older Debian 9-based computer, with both 127.0.0.1 ; and ::1 for listening IP addresses |
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| 19:44.25 | tomg | i'm probably missing something obvius |
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| 19:51.26 | converge | The non free firmware isn't helping me much. Is there a similar debian distribution with the option to just install basic packages? |
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| 19:54.23 | backnforth | May I ask for more installation help? The netinst installed fine, but now I'm not able to boot from my hard drive.. my motherboard says that I have no bootable device, but it detects the hard drive |
| 19:55.38 | bolt | backnforth: did you install GRUB on a bootable device during setup? |
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| 19:57.19 | backnforth | bolt, I think so. I remember saying a screen saying the boot loader was being installed |
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| 19:58.46 | sbug | you are also sure BIOS is set to boot from the harddrive? |
| 19:58.47 | bolt | backnforth: you may want to jump back into the setup and make sure you know which device you install that on. also, figure out whether or not you're booting with EFI enabled and make sure you create the appropriate EFI partition if you intend to do so |
| 19:58.56 | bolt | !tell backnforth about efi |
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| 20:00.44 | ratrace | can the bot set notes for a user when they return? |
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| 20:04.55 | countdr | converge: Ubuntu Server has a list of packages to choose. |
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| 20:13.54 | converge | countdr, sounds good, thanks |
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| 20:26.38 | nvz | converge: just don't select anything, or choose only standard system utilities |
| 20:27.06 | nvz | converge: http://iamcowhearme.mooo.com/buster/ there are a list of packages on my site there for the base/standard install |
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| 20:35.14 | nvz | converge: http://iamcowhearme.mooo.com/buster/Base/pkgs.html is what is installed if you select nothing, and if you select standard system utilities you get http://iamcowhearme.mooo.com/buster/Standard/pkgs.html |
| 20:35.26 | backnforth | bolt, I just tried installing again, with the boot loader being installed, and I'm still not getting a bootable device detected. |
| 20:36.09 | nvz | converge: 248 packages in base, 856M installed size, and 345 packages in standard, 1019M installed size |
| 20:36.46 | converge | backnforth, make sure the HD you want to boot it set at bios |
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| 20:37.20 | converge | nvz, cool, that's what I used to do using Debian, but there is this issue with the wireless card, going to try with ubuntu |
| 20:37.42 | nvz | converge: I can probably fix your wireless issue |
| 20:37.51 | nvz | I cannot however support ubuntu |
| 20:37.58 | nvz | converge: is it a USB wifi dongle? |
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| 20:38.43 | converge | nvz, MacBook Air bcm4360, unsupported model, requires non free packages, tried that with the unoficial iso image with non free drivers, but still doesn't work |
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| 20:39.43 | nvz | broadcom has historically been a pita but that adapter is supported more than likely |
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| 20:39.53 | nvz | converge: does it scan and not connect? |
| 20:40.31 | converge | nvz, sounds like it make no difference, having the non free drivers or not, Im not able to choose/activate the driver |
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| 20:41.21 | nvz | converge: idk what you are trying, but I am fairly certain it will work |
| 20:41.29 | nvz | converge: what do you have on it right now? |
| 20:42.05 | wwilliam | why in the world every new version of debian is more restrictive than the previews one what is the point? how in the world start the power settings module? |
| 20:42.36 | converge | Im installing ubuntu at the moment, last try was this one https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 20:43.25 | nvz | well then we can be of no further assistance to you. If you wanna use debian, I could tell you how to do it |
| 20:43.34 | wwilliam | !power |
| 20:43.38 | wwilliam | wtf? |
| 20:43.55 | nvz | it requires a non-free driver to be built and the conflicting free drivers to be blacklisted |
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| 20:44.24 | wwilliam | how is called the power management configuration module so I can added to start up ans shutdown? |
| 20:44.33 | converge | nvz, I would love to keep with Debian, have been using it for the past 20 years, but I need to move forward if it doesn't work with the many tries I did |
| 20:45.14 | converge | nvz, do you know the steps? Should I install it using the non free firmware iso? |
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| 20:45.41 | nvz | converge: BCM4360 with the PCIID 14e4:43a0 and 14e4:4360 are documented as working if done properly |
| 20:46.07 | nvz | converge: all non-free has in this context is firmware, this has nothing to do with the issue with the BCM4360 which requires a DRIVER to be built |
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| 20:47.08 | nvz | converge: you need the wl driver build by broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 20:47.14 | nvz | ,i broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 20:47.15 | judd | Package broadcom-sta-dkms (non-free/kernel, optional) in buster/amd64: dkms source for the Broadcom STA Wireless driver. Version: 6.30.223.271-10; Size: 2156.0k; Installed: 14139k; Homepage: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php |
| 20:47.47 | nvz | converge: the non-free iso would be fine, but you have additional steps required to build and load the driver |
| 20:48.06 | converge | nvz, got it. I actually tried it, downloaded the broadcom-sta-dkms deb file, tried to install it, but it ask for many kernel headers, and stuff Im not able to download |
| 20:48.47 | nvz | converge: is this the only machine you have? no way to hook it up to the internet otherwise? |
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| 20:49.38 | converge | Nvz, I do have other machines, but the required header files also ask for other many other packages |
| 20:49.46 | backnforth | converge, done that, it still doesn't work |
| 20:50.10 | backnforth | done that being that I selected my hdd to boot from |
| 20:51.06 | nvz | converge: I guess this macbook air doesn't have ethernet.. and you don't have another perhaps usb wifi adapter |
| 20:51.32 | converge | nvz, that's right, I think I'll buy a usb stick before trying again |
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| 20:55.04 | backnforth | Sad to say this, but I'm going to go with Ubuntu instead |
| 20:55.10 | backnforth | Thanks anyways to all that helped me! |
| 20:56.59 | nvz | converge: according to an ubuntu user in their support channel this wl driver is not on ubuntu by default either.. the process is the same as debian, the driver must be built and this requires kernel headers |
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| 20:59.36 | converge | nvz, just finished the ubuntu installation, it works without additional steps |
| 21:02.42 | nvz | converge: if ubuntu works with it, you would only need to install debian, then boot ubuntu off the thumdrive/install media and chroot into debian to complete the installing of the proper packages |
| 21:02.57 | nvz | because you'd have network from the ubuntu media.. so.. |
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| 21:21.56 | wwilliam | how do i start the power management configuration module in stretch please? |
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| 21:25.08 | oft_gegong | I have a Debian bug: I install 32-bit/64-bit wine packages into a 64-bit LiveUSB XFCE Debian 10.2, and what happens is the liveUSB USB gets unmounted and the whole system crashes. |
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| 21:27.46 | wwilliam | none of the kde connect settings are working.. |
| 21:27.53 | wwilliam | how awfull |
| 21:28.33 | oft_gegong | poor wwilliam. can I help? you want to start the KDE power management configuration module(s)? |
| 21:28.41 | wwilliam | power management configuration module is not running |
| 21:28.53 | wwilliam | thoF@eer321 |
| 21:28.57 | oft_gegong | do you need power management? are you running on battery? |
| 21:28.58 | wwilliam | damn |
| 21:29.00 | wwilliam | lol |
| 21:29.49 | karlpinc | I've just done an "aptitude update" and gotten a message about pam-auth-update wanting to update pam-common-*. Having said "no", don't overwrite, how do I go back and find out what it wanted to change? |
| 21:30.11 | wwilliam | oft_gegong: no |
| 21:30.29 | karlpinc | oft_gegong: Did you install debian packages from debian.org? |
| 21:30.42 | oft_gegong | karlpinc: yes |
| 21:31.00 | oft_gegong | karlpinc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure pam-common-* #or something like that |
| 21:31.15 | oft_gegong | karlpinc: I'm 3% sure that'll solve your problem |
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| 21:52.46 | JackFrost | Hi, so if I have a bunch of 'obsolete' files, as marked in dpkg, what's the easiest way to clean them up? Normally it takes a purge and reinstall, but I don't want to do that for this many packages (and dpkg --force-depends --purge on all of them might not be as safe.) |
| 21:53.46 | oft_gegong | sudo dpkg --clean-obsolete # just kidding |
| 21:55.20 | oft_gegong | so you want to reinstall them or just purge them? |
| 21:56.04 | oft_gegong | and by "obsolete" files you mean "obsolete" packages? |
| 21:57.07 | JackFrost | Well really I just want to get rid of the obsolete files, if I could do so without purging that'd be good. No, obsolete files are files that were shipped from the package at one point, and no longer are. See: dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | grep obso |
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| 22:04.34 | Lyberta | is it possible to reset UEFI settings via Linux? |
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| 22:07.21 | mtn | as far as I know, you must access the uefi settings via the boot menu |
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| 22:08.22 | wwilliam | how to remove and reinstall kde in debian stretch? |
| 22:09.09 | mtn | wwilliam: why do you want to reinstall? |
| 22:09.34 | wwilliam | power settings not enabled |
| 22:09.41 | wwilliam | unable to found a solution. |
| 22:10.14 | mtn | wwilliam: you can't fine power management in system settings? |
| 22:10.18 | mtn | fine/find |
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| 22:11.05 | wwilliam | how do i start the power management configuration module in stretch please? |
| 22:11.15 | mtn | wwilliam: you can't find power management in system settings? |
| 22:11.19 | wwilliam | yes |
| 22:11.28 | wwilliam | the module is not load it |
| 22:11.39 | mtn | wwilliam: you can use tasksel to install kde again, I think |
| 22:12.27 | wwilliam | this the exact message when trying to access energy savings settings in system settings |
| 22:12.53 | wwilliam | Power Management configuration module could not be loaded. |
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| 22:12.58 | Lyberta | mtn, I can't access boot menu because for some reason changing USB settings made all USB ports stop working |
| 22:13.11 | wwilliam | the power management service appears not to be running. |
| 22:13.26 | mtn | Lyberta: what do usb ports have to do with your system power on menu? |
| 22:13.55 | wwilliam | This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside "Startup and Shutdown" |
| 22:14.07 | mtn | Lyberta: you hit some key to access your uefi settings |
| 22:15.25 | Lyberta | mtn, yes, but no keys are working because of no USB |
| 22:15.40 | mtn | Lyberta: you only have a usb keyboard? |
| 22:16.16 | Lyberta | mtn, this is a tablet with only USB, only touchscreen works but not in boot menu obviously |
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| 22:17.25 | mtn | Lyberta: I guess your only hope is the manual or finding support for that tablet |
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| 22:21.46 | Lyberta | what does /dev/nvram do? |
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| 22:44.41 | Whyvn | hello, I have a unit service file with a bash script. The script ran locally runs fine, but when I try to make a service for it, the command does not find a display. I get the error Feb 08 14:37:22 debian bash[31194]: Error initializing osd: No display. The specific command I am using is osd_cat to print the contents of a file on the screen if the conditions are met. |
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| 22:48.00 | Whyvn | ugh.. always happends. I look for 15 min before asking, and right after I ask I find a different variation of my query and I find a result... I want Environment=DISPLAY=:0 in my unit file. |
| 22:48.09 | mihi | Whyvn, you probably need to find some way to pass the $DISPLAY environment variable of your running X session to the service |
| 22:48.47 | mihi | or in case you always have only one X session open at a time (no user switching), hardcoding :0 as you wrote should also work |
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| 22:49.49 | Whyvn | thanks for reply, yeah I only have one display |
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| 22:50.52 | mihi | just for the record, it does not matter how many physical monitors you have, but rather how many users are logged into X (e.g. because of user switching if your desktop manager supports it, or because of switching to a text console and running startx there) |
| 22:51.12 | mihi | even when you have 3 monitors, but only one session, $DISPLAY will be :0 |
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| 23:00.08 | ratrace | tomg: fixed your exim issue? |
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| 23:10.33 | wwilliam | I installed stretch again same thing |
| 23:10.50 | wwilliam | power settings in system settings are not available |
| 23:10.55 | wwilliam | what a bummer. |
| 23:11.07 | nkuttler | check your bios? |
| 23:11.35 | wwilliam | is a vm |
| 23:11.46 | wwilliam | what should I check for? |
| 23:11.58 | nkuttler | hm, why do you need pm in a vm? |
| 23:11.59 | wwilliam | nkuttler: |
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| 23:12.09 | nkuttler | acpi/apm stuff? dunno |
| 23:12.12 | wwilliam | Power Management configuration module could not be loaded. |
| 23:12.19 | wwilliam | the power management service appears not to be running. |
| 23:12.27 | wwilliam | This can be solved by starting or scheduling it inside "Startup and Shutdown" |
| 23:12.39 | wwilliam | I have no idea how to do the last part. |
| 23:13.36 | wwilliam | I dont want to vm to log out after 5 mins of inactivity. |
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| 23:15.46 | tomg | ratrace, no, i'll try again |
| 23:17.42 | ratrace | tomg: it's in the docs :) ::0 tried that? https://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-starting_the_daemon_and_the_use_of_network_interfaces.html |
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| 23:19.40 | tomg | local_interfaces = <; ::0 ; 0.0.0.0 is what i needed to see |
| 23:19.59 | tomg | i thought :: would do for ::0, but no. everything seems to work now, thanks ratrace ! |
| 23:20.32 | tomg | wait i think i spoke too soon |
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| 23:22.19 | tomg | 2020-02-08 18:21:48 socket bind() to port 25 for address :: failed: Address already in use: waiting 30s before trying again (3 more tries) |
| 23:23.49 | tomg | it seems to work now, i switched the order |
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| 23:28.44 | tomg | it seems to be good, thanks ratrace for the doc URL |
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| 23:33.42 | quadrathoch2 | Hey, was right now spinning up a vm and wanted to try firewalld, but somehow when I want to reload the firewall rules, I get an error, and only after rebooting the new rules apply oO, anybody got an idea? |
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| 23:35.30 | quadrathoch2 | ahm, here is the error :/ https://imgur.com/a/QLS9fO9 |
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