| 00:00.43 | dob1 | lupulo, no |
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| 00:00.54 | dob1 | lupulo, I read it's a bug |
| 00:03.17 | lupulo | no idea, but systemv and systemd are not the same scheme |
| 00:03.30 | jim | are recent apt and dpkg multiarch? |
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| 00:05.15 | edlou | Boohbah: yes? |
| 00:06.48 | Boohbah | edlou: Sorry, my mistake. |
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| 00:40.08 | nifker | So when I apt remove xterm I get gnome-terminal - when I remove gnome-terminal I get xterm |
| 00:40.12 | nifker | how can I remove both? |
| 00:40.16 | nifker | I use alacritty |
| 00:41.01 | nifker | i.e. apt then install the other package |
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| 00:43.16 | nifker | how can I forcefully remove a package? |
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| 00:47.28 | nifker | gosh do I hate steam |
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| 01:27.56 | JustTheDoctor | is there a way to download from mega.nz in linux command line? |
| 01:30.08 | JustTheDoctor | nvm figured it out |
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| 01:31.53 | eggbean | What version of openssh does debian 10 have? |
| 01:33.07 | eggbean | $ ssh -V ? |
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| 01:34.28 | jh001_ | ssh -V |
| 01:34.30 | jh001_ | OpenSSH_7.9p1 Debian-10+deb10u2, OpenSSL 1.1.1d 10 Sep 2019 |
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| 01:49.14 | taserface | hi, quick question |
| 01:49.23 | taserface | are mini.iso's meant to be GPG verifiable? |
| 01:50.59 | somiaj | Isn't there a checksum in the directory with the .iso? |
| 01:51.28 | somiaj | https://www.debian.org/CD/verify |
| 01:51.53 | taserface | can't see a SHA256SUMS.sign or whatever |
| 01:51.55 | taserface | just SHA256SUMS |
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| 01:54.34 | somiaj | hmm, not sure why there isn't one for the mini.iso |
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| 02:07.47 | eggbean | jh001_: cheers |
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| 02:08.56 | taserface | on a related note |
| 02:08.58 | taserface | fuck intel |
| 02:09.33 | Boohbah | taserface: The market has spoken. AMD aiming for 10% share by Q4. |
| 02:10.00 | eggbean | Apple may move to ARM |
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| 02:10.14 | taserface | 10%? is that real? |
| 02:10.44 | Boohbah | taserface: Yes. |
| 02:10.56 | taserface | doesn't ARM have special hidden CPUs too? |
| 02:11.09 | eggbean | ?? |
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| 02:14.06 | taserface | you know, like IME |
| 02:14.10 | taserface | or whatever AMD has |
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| 02:14.48 | annadane | PSP? |
| 02:14.54 | annadane | or um... |
| 02:15.08 | annadane | yeah PSP |
| 02:15.24 | annadane | AMD anyway, no idea about ARM |
| 02:15.40 | Boohbah | Playstation portable. |
| 02:15.55 | Boohbah | Platform-security processor. |
| 02:16.15 | Boohbah | An ambedded ARM CPU inside your x86. |
| 02:16.41 | eggbean | Oh, you mean Intel vPro etc |
| 02:16.57 | annadane | but yeah, as far as intel goes the security flaws just keep coming |
| 02:17.01 | eggbean | that useful for enterprise |
| 02:17.11 | annadane | i have an intel processor and an nvidia graphics card, the worst of all worlds |
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| 02:18.35 | taserface | remember when infecting the firmware in your PC was actually physically impossible |
| 02:18.41 | taserface | those were the days |
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| 02:20.43 | Boohbah | taserface: 1990s, before flash memory? |
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| 02:34.16 | taserface | yeah that |
| 02:34.59 | taserface | more like, when they started enabling the flash memory to be written by the software running on the machine |
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| 02:44.00 | eggbean | taserface: In the early days you wipe the memory on EEPROMs with UV light |
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| 02:52.22 | blammotheclown | is there a bunsenlabs specific channel here? |
| 02:53.39 | eggbean | Are they even going anymore? I thought that distro was dead. Something++ |
| 02:54.29 | blammotheclown | Nah it's still goin. I'm on it right now. |
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| 02:55.50 | annadane | !bunsenlabs |
| 02:55.50 | dpkg | BunsenLabs Linux is a community continuation of <crunchbang> that features the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.bunsenlabs.org/ #bunsenlabs on chat.freenode.net. See <based on debian> |
| 02:56.24 | annadane | openbox would be better if it didn't have such a silly syntax to edit keybindings |
| 02:56.27 | annadane | to each their own |
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| 02:57.43 | blammotheclown | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.53 | annadane | then register your nick |
| 02:58.05 | annadane | or you can maybe ask in ##linux and see if anyone's familiar with bunsenlabs |
| 02:58.05 | blammotheclown | I haven't been on IRC in 20 years. I'm rusty. So, I haven't got the email yet... i have registered |
| 02:58.31 | tinfoil-hat | Hey @ll, I wonder how I would go about naming my VPS properly, so that I can "ssh user@subdomain.domain.tld" or have a correct named sendmail etc. I never bothered thinking of it until now |
| 02:58.41 | annadane | blammotheclown, may wish to ask #freenode |
| 02:58.53 | blammotheclown | k |
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| 02:59.23 | tinfoil-hat | It has to sth like /etc/host or /etc/hosts, is that all? what type of DNS record should I set up? |
| 03:02.17 | eggbean | tinfoil-hat: hostnamectl |
| 03:02.55 | tinfoil-hat | eggbean: thank you, do you know about dns records, I would have to set? |
| 03:03.16 | eggbean | yes, of course you would need an A record set |
| 03:03.51 | eggbean | host.domain.tld |
| 03:04.29 | tinfoil-hat | that's all? just an A record? I thought maybe it needs a special srv record, I am not really experienced with DNS |
| 03:05.24 | eggbean | Just an A record. You can set an SSFP record as well, if you want to be fancy, but that is relatively advanced stuff |
| 03:06.11 | eggbean | sshfp, i meant |
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| 03:06.37 | tinfoil-hat | I would have to dig up what SSHFP is, thank you for pointing me in the right direction! |
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| 03:09.33 | eggbean | I wouldn't concern yourself with sshfp, as you need to know quite a lot more about ssh and dnssec etc |
| 03:09.58 | eggbean | ..for now |
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| 03:15.37 | tds | tinfoil-hat / eggbean: don't forget your aaaa record for ipv6 as well :) |
| 03:16.27 | eggbean | tds: ha, oh yeah. Have to say I have not touched IPv6. Sort of avoided it do far, I'm sorry to say |
| 03:16.37 | eggbean | so |
| 03:17.57 | eggbean | I tried doing this certificate for it by hurricane electric 11 years ago, when I was doing my ccna and got so confused it put me off |
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| 03:20.35 | tinfoil-hat | tds: haha, you're right, I almost forgot |
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| 03:48.52 | wlxmhls | Hello guys, I removed some packages some days ago. Now the system settings missing. How to get it back ? My box is Debian 10 |
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| 03:50.29 | Boohbah | wlxmhls: Restore backups. |
| 03:53.18 | saptech | wlxmhls, reinstall the pkgs you removed |
| 03:54.30 | saptech | reinstall one at a time until you figure which one added system settings again |
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| 03:59.13 | wlxmhls | Thanks, I have no backups done. But I just googled out, and install gnome-control-center worked. |
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| 04:38.36 | DarkiJah2 | Hello |
| 04:38.57 | DarkiJah2 | I guess it looks okay, I think I'll try some of the other themes. |
| 04:39.14 | DarkiJah2 | looks pretty cool with the green in the beginning but... naa I think I need the black :) |
| 04:39.23 | DarkiJah2 | I'm trying out Kiwi |
| 04:40.09 | annadane | GNOME? |
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| 04:41.34 | DarkiJah2 | Gnome?... no... from windows. |
| 04:43.02 | annadane | what? |
| 04:43.23 | annadane | is this windows subsystem for linux or whatever it's called? |
| 04:43.25 | taserface | is there any debian desktop that will run on a system with 512M of ram and without a swapfile? |
| 04:44.51 | DarkiJah2 | Crunchbang++ and the other one was very low in Ram if my memory serves. |
| 04:44.58 | DarkiJah2 | brb |
| 04:45.50 | DarkiJah2 | MX Linux was also lightweight :) |
| 04:46.31 | DarkiJah2 | That was the 2 best options I found for my old computer. Surprisingly MX Linux seemed somewhat smother then Crunchbang++ |
| 04:46.46 | DarkiJah2 | Although I'm not sure MX Linux is Debian based by the way... |
| 04:46.54 | DarkiJah2 | but CrunchBang++ is :) |
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| 04:50.39 | taserface | remember when 512m was a shitload of memory |
| 04:52.00 | DarkiJah2 | I can't even remember how much I have in my old one - but Crunchbang and MX Linux where the best choices. |
| 04:52.09 | DarkiJah2 | not much. |
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| 05:05.50 | Ede|Popede | taserface: by far my biggest consumer is firefox. then long time nothing. then (no idea why) atm iBus. then long time nothing. then Xorg. running xfce btw. desktop/panel/wm needing around 60 MB as per htop. |
| 05:06.33 | annadane | likes xfce but it can be a tad ugly |
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| 05:10.06 | Ede|Popede | i don't see too much of it. just a short panel and well, window decorations. mostly title bar. |
| 05:10.07 | epony | an ugly DE, improbable, they are all so bootiefull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment#Gallery |
| 05:10.40 | epony | that's why I don't use a DE, just a WM without ANY decoration |
| 05:11.45 | annadane | i find DEs do a better job of fulfilling certain functions automagically |
| 05:11.50 | annadane | you have to do more yourself with a WM |
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| 05:12.27 | epony | yeah, because I have more of my computer left to me |
| 05:12.32 | epony | so I can do more ;-) |
| 05:12.40 | annadane | oh for sure, to each their own |
| 05:12.41 | epony | like not crash and not lose work |
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| 05:13.08 | Ede|Popede | switched to kde long ago, using a wm only was a lot of work in one way or the other. not sure if there was even a standard for application menus back then. |
| 05:14.24 | epony | There were not even DEs back then.. but some TK and CDE stuff, it sucked then, sucks the same way today. |
| 05:15.52 | Ede|Popede | hm. menu. some starters. workplace switcher. tray. calendarclock. open windows. |
| 05:17.04 | Ede|Popede | menu button isn't really needed, assign a key, open every where. same for calendar if interaction needed. always visible clock with optional calendar could be as well stay on the desktop. |
| 05:17.42 | epony | no menu here, and no starters, and no switcher/desktop/window pager.. yes tray (short), xclock, and several custom made widgets (text mode) |
| 05:18.06 | epony | yes, clock and tray |
| 05:18.07 | Ede|Popede | iirc my last wm before kde was fvwm95, being used to the design from redmond. |
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| 05:19.54 | Ede|Popede | can't work with transparency at all, i want a stable background for my text. so not even compositor. |
| 05:21.18 | Ede|Popede | the good thing: it saves cpu. |
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| 05:38.13 | ryouma | i think nothing, except they make me have to add a line in my .xinitrc or someting ever few years |
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| 09:00.38 | NetTerminalGene | my debian can't update repo (can't connect) this http://ftp.uni-kl.de/debian/dists/buster/InRelease | but when i ping ftp.uni-kl.de it responds. the problem is in my setup? |
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| 09:02.06 | NetTerminalGene | nevermind. it works now! |
| 09:02.58 | NetTerminalGene | ,v firefox-esr |
| 09:02.59 | judd | Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-updates: 60.6.3esr-1~deb9u1; stretch: 68.4.1esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 68.4.1esr-1~deb10u1; jessie-security: 68.5.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 68.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 68.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster-proposed-updates: 68.5.0esr-1~deb10u1; buster-security: 68.5.0esr-1~deb10u1; bullseye: |
| 09:03.00 | judd | 68.5.0esr-1+b1; sid: 68.5.0esr-1+b1 |
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| 09:03.50 | NetTerminalGene | this can't be acceptable |
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| 09:05.52 | jm_ | what and why isn't acceptable? |
| 09:06.43 | NetTerminalGene | 68.6 released yesterday |
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| 09:33.13 | f8e3 | how to install 'usermod' ? |
| 09:33.18 | f8e3 | -bash: usermod: command not found |
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| 09:35.27 | ksk | !buster su |
| 09:35.27 | dpkg | In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put "ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for details. |
| 09:35.31 | ksk | f8e3: ^ |
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| 10:18.20 | Guest2525 | hmmm |
| 10:18.24 | Guest2525 | Well |
| 10:18.28 | Guest2525 | that seemed a little better |
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| 10:57.56 | Regor | i dont get offline docs on F1 it only redirects to online documentation . what packages i am missing in buster ? |
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| 11:02.31 | joepublic | Do you have a little clearer definition of "it"? |
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| 11:03.22 | joepublic | "In ___________________________ (fill in name of some software), I pressed F1 expecting help documentation, but got sent to a website instead" for example |
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| 11:05.55 | allizom | joepublic: you're asking for help with software you're not even naming |
| 11:06.12 | joepublic | That is in fact not the case. |
| 11:06.42 | allizom | oh sorry |
| 11:06.58 | allizom | Regor: so what? |
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| 11:07.39 | joepublic | :) |
| 11:08.08 | Regor | F1 key = it . on any application joepublic |
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| 11:11.12 | Regor | its xfce |
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| 11:57.16 | jelly | Regor: I suspect each app manages what F1 means on its own |
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| 11:57.29 | Regor | yes.. |
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| 12:00.48 | Regor | i just checked with all applications ... i dont get help in xfce appllcations only.. rhythmbox gives it nicely .. |
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| 12:03.46 | Regor | so something messy with xfce docs.,. i installed minimum base ..so there might be some missing package related with docs . |
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| 12:16.45 | xpheres | hello, I can't make mariadb-server work and I followed all troubleshootings I found on internet |
| 12:17.21 | xpheres | I get error "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" |
| 12:17.38 | xpheres | I removed and purged mariadb and installed it again and problem persist |
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| 12:19.39 | daesu | What's the socket set to in /etc/my.cnf ? |
| 12:20.00 | daesu | Search for `socket=` |
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| 12:20.30 | Akuw | hi |
| 12:20.33 | xpheres | I already searched that line in my.cnf and I can not find it |
| 12:20.43 | xpheres | there is no socket |
| 12:20.49 | Akuw | yes, i configured local repo that is working for all packages |
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| 12:21.42 | daesu | Does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist ? |
| 12:22.03 | xpheres | yes because I created it myself after following a troubleshooting |
| 12:22.13 | section1 | lol |
| 12:22.23 | section1 | should be in /etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d/50-mysqld_safe.cnf |
| 12:22.32 | jm_ | try netstat -nap | grep LISTEN | grep mysql |
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| 12:23.01 | section1 | and /etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d/50-server.cnf |
| 12:23.17 | xpheres | jm no results |
| 12:23.28 | jm_ | xpheres: is the service running? |
| 12:23.52 | daesu | xpheres: check for running sockets. `find / -type s` |
| 12:23.53 | xpheres | status shows: Failed to start MariaDB 10.3.22 database |
| 12:24.04 | section1 | maybe can't start because of your socket creation |
| 12:24.19 | jm_ | that;s why then, check its journal |
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| 12:25.50 | xpheres | journalctl does not show any info regarding mariadb |
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| 12:26.20 | section1 | xpheres, delete the socket that you create. |
| 12:26.33 | jm_ | journalctl -u mariadb.service |
| 12:26.37 | section1 | the try to start again the service |
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| 12:27.24 | xpheres | section1 the socket file I created has dissapeared |
| 12:27.28 | xpheres | I can not find it |
| 12:27.30 | section1 | ok |
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| 12:27.43 | section1 | check logs/journal |
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| 12:28.58 | xpheres | I've lost connection |
| 12:29.01 | xpheres | did I miss anything? |
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| 12:29.10 | jm_ | <section1> check logs/journal |
| 12:29.32 | f8e4 | when writing to an encrypted volume file on a removable medium, is the talk over the medium encrypted ? |
| 12:29.59 | f8e4 | since the encrypt happends cpu side so the device should not see it right, only random bits |
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| 12:34.16 | xpheres | https://pastebin.com/vg3FZMBf |
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| 12:37.25 | section1 | looks ok.and is raspbian not debian |
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| 12:37.48 | section1 | start it and check the service |
| 12:37.52 | metbsd | there hasn't been any update for the last two weeks. is everything alright? |
| 12:38.07 | metbsd | development team got infected by corona or what. lol |
| 12:38.38 | section1 | metbsd, i see some security updates this week |
| 12:38.43 | xpheres | sudo service mysql restart |
| 12:38.44 | xpheres | Job for mariadb.service failed because the control process exited with error code. |
| 12:39.19 | section1 | xpheres, try only start. if it fails check the logs. |
| 12:39.30 | xpheres | I'm going to paste the log now |
| 12:39.40 | ksk | !nopaste |
| 12:39.40 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
| 12:39.45 | ksk | !paste |
| 12:39.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 12:40.15 | xpheres | ok dpkg, sorry |
| 12:40.16 | xpheres | https://pastebin.com/vg3FZMBf |
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| 12:42.02 | section1 | the lines are cut-ed. |
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| 12:42.41 | section1 | i think that too get logged in /var/log/syslog |
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| 12:42.59 | xpheres | let me check |
| 12:43.20 | ksk | xpheres: nothing of interest in there. take a look at /var/log/mysql/mysql.err or so ;) |
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| 12:44.22 | xpheres | ksk https://pastebin.com/vg3FZMBf |
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| 12:45.23 | ksk | just clean startups and shutdowns in there, imho. |
| 12:45.37 | section1 | yeap |
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| 12:45.48 | xpheres | reinstalling mysql does not solve the problem |
| 12:45.49 | section1 | and refused "logins" |
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| 12:46.36 | xpheres | is there any way to delete all mysql configurations and start all over and install it clean? |
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| 12:46.43 | ksk | what is the problem? "journalctl -e -u mysql" might help. |
| 12:46.45 | section1 | purge |
| 12:47.10 | xpheres | ksk no entries |
| 12:47.29 | ksk | !confnew |
| 12:47.29 | dpkg | [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>. |
| 12:47.40 | themill | xpheres: you need to be explicit about which packages you have tried reinstalling. |
| 12:47.48 | xpheres | mariadb-server |
| 12:48.09 | ksk | replace "mysql" in that journalctl command whith the name of the service ( you started earlier..) |
| 12:48.12 | xpheres | dpkg I'm going to try that |
| 12:48.12 | themill | it would most likely be mariadb-server-10.3 |
| 12:48.12 | dpkg | xpheres: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 12:48.36 | ksk | xpheres: dpkg is just a bot to help us out with some faqtoids. |
| 12:48.45 | xpheres | ah ok |
| 12:48.51 | xpheres | anyway I think it's a good tip |
| 12:48.52 | xpheres | let me try |
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| 12:50.35 | jm_ | your issue seems to be that something is shutting down mysql a few minutes after it starts OK |
| 12:50.40 | jm_ | but off now |
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| 12:50.59 | xpheres | I gues |
| 12:51.03 | xpheres | Iguess |
| 12:51.34 | section1 | and check timestamps. to see if they are new logs or old logs. |
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| 13:05.43 | forsal | hi |
| 13:06.18 | forsal | At first time I booted desktop with 2 monitors I could see something like that |
| 13:06.20 | forsal | https://i.imgur.com/NnGTtOP.png |
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| 13:07.01 | forsal | What's the shortcut to see that monitor settings ? |
| 13:07.44 | forsal | "Switch to laptop screen" (but it was on desktop) |
| 13:07.49 | forsal | https://i.imgur.com/NnGTtOP.png |
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| 13:10.28 | Haohmaru | whut DE is that? |
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| 13:12.23 | forsal | kde |
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| 13:19.16 | Akuw | i configured a local repository, all is working fine, but one package giving problems |
| 13:19.41 | Akuw | Depends: libccid (>= 1.4.1~) but it is not going to be installed |
| 13:19.52 | Akuw | but that libccid is there |
| 13:20.22 | Akuw | "/srv/local-apt-repository/libccid_1.4.18-1_amd64.deb" |
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| 13:24.13 | eypo | Hi, I'm trying to force fsck some ext4 partitions on boot and I'm just unable . I've set tune2fs parameters to force it, I've set fsck.mode=force fsck.repair=yes in /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX option, but no success |
| 13:24.30 | eypo | any hint? |
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| 13:25.10 | eypo | I just get 'warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended' |
| 13:26.09 | eypo | I've installed e2fsck-static and busybox-static and updated initramfs, but no luck |
| 13:26.40 | nkuttler | !forcefsck |
| 13:26.40 | dpkg | Include fsck.mode=force on the kernel command line to instruct your system to execute <fsck> on the next boot (on systemd installations). With sysvinit or older Debian releases, "touch /forcefsck". Useful for checking the root filesystem for errors (via /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh). Alternatively, supply the -F option to shutdown(8), or include "forcefsck" at the kernel command line. |
| 13:26.56 | eypo | nkuttler, I already did that |
| 13:27.03 | nkuttler | eypo: you did it on the command line? |
| 13:27.36 | eypo | I set fsck.mode kernel option |
| 13:27.37 | nkuttler | if you edit /etc/default/grub i think you have to rebuild the actual grub file... but i'm hazy on that |
| 13:27.44 | eypo | I did it too |
| 13:27.47 | eypo | update-grub |
| 13:28.29 | eypo | I also tried shutdown -rF now |
| 13:28.44 | nkuttler | can't you put it on the command line? |
| 13:28.54 | nkuttler | dunno, i don't usually touch the grub config |
| 13:28.56 | nkuttler | shrugs |
| 13:30.04 | eypo | has some grub tweaking experience due to running most systems using ZFS on root |
| 13:30.52 | eypo | I can't run fsck directly on command line because both partitions are already mounted (/boot and / ) |
| 13:31.05 | nkuttler | eypo: the *kernel* command line |
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| 13:31.11 | eypo | yes |
| 13:31.21 | nkuttler | eypo: nothing is mounted before the kernel is loaded |
| 13:31.42 | nkuttler | in grub you can hit "e" and edit the boot parameters |
| 13:31.57 | nkuttler | also thought zfs doesn't do fsck |
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| 13:32.56 | eypo | including 'forcefsck' as kernel parameter didn't work |
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| 13:33.25 | nkuttler | fsck.mode=force |
| 13:33.44 | eypo | nkuttler, already did that, nope |
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| 13:33.56 | nkuttler | you just said you added forcefsck |
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| 13:34.13 | eypo | and previously I added fsck.mode=force |
| 13:34.37 | eypo | I've been stomping my head on this for the last three hors |
| 13:34.40 | eypo | hours |
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| 13:36.01 | rander2 | hello |
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| 13:36.27 | eypo | dammit |
| 13:36.31 | eypo | I found it |
| 13:36.42 | eypo | /etc/fstab |
| 13:37.07 | rander2 | fixmbr |
| 13:37.40 | eypo | UUID="xxxx" / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 0 |
| 13:37.43 | rander2 | fixmbr |
| 13:38.08 | jerry | hello all, i want to install a range extender hardwired to network and wifi to ip cam. problem is the subnet changes and i can't access the camera rtsp |
| 13:38.08 | eypo | last number shouldn't be 0 to have the partition checked |
| 13:38.21 | jerry | little help plz |
| 13:38.47 | rander2 | to reinstall grub in chroot mode is written to give the command: mount /boot/efi |
| 13:39.06 | jerry | there's no way to keep the extender on same subnet so i need to know what i can buy that will fix this issue |
| 13:39.12 | rander2 | but it don't go, I haven't /boot/efi file or directory |
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| 13:40.08 | eypo | nkuttler, thanks for your help. Sometimes just trying to explain a problem to someone let's you find the solution |
| 13:40.19 | eypo | s/let's/lets |
| 13:40.29 | nkuttler | eypo: you could get a rubber duck ;) |
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| 13:43.28 | eypo | nkuttler, I have a tux plush, but he resigned |
| 13:44.58 | p8m | jerry: a network interface can have multiple ip addresses. Add another in the camera subnet? |
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| 13:47.24 | eypo | jerry, sell that crappy range extender and get a proper access point |
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| 13:48.04 | jerry | ok so the cam is 192.168.1.x but i need it to be on the local net of 192.168.0.x |
| 13:48.27 | eypo | jerry, and disable dhcp server on the ap, set a sensible ip for it and let the ap bridge its wired and wifi interfaces |
| 13:48.33 | jerry | eypo which access point will do? i don't want to ghet the wrong thing again |
| 13:48.48 | jerry | dhcp is disabled |
| 13:49.08 | eypo | any access point will do. Hint: it should have just one ethernet port |
| 13:49.33 | jerry | cool i'll go see what staples and best buy have |
| 13:49.37 | rander2 | is the directory /sys/firmware/efi don't exist, mean that the system haven't uefi ? |
| 13:49.41 | rander2 | if |
| 13:50.10 | eypo | jerry, i.e. I had a similar setup using tp-link wa801nd. I know it's old, just wifi-n, but you get the idea |
| 13:50.55 | jerry | i bought 2 meco me-750-ac range extendeers thinking they would do but what crap |
| 13:51.07 | rander2 | eypo, I refer to debian not to tp-link wa801nd ap |
| 13:51.37 | eypo | sorry for the offtopic |
| 13:51.56 | rander2 | I must reinstall grub in deb 10 |
| 13:52.05 | jerry | yea thanks, sorry to get off topic but didn't know where else to ask |
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| 14:12.53 | ws2k3 | which version of mysql-server was in debian 7 ? i cant seem to find a package list for debian 7 |
| 14:13.11 | greycat | mysql-server-5.5 - MySQL database server binaries and system database setup |
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| 14:27.37 | _Fremen_ | hello everyone |
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| 14:28.58 | _Fremen_ | I installed nvidia-driver and related pachages and it gave errors and when I restarted, it wont boot pass "Starting Terminate Plymouth boot Screen" |
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| 14:29.44 | _Fremen_ | Should I try to open console on grub and do "sudo apt install -f" and "dpkg --configure -a" or etc.? |
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| 14:31.55 | greycat | you can't run apt and dpkg from grub |
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| 14:33.03 | _Fremen_ | greycat, so what should I do? |
| 14:33.24 | greycat | Boot into Debian? How would I know... I don't know what you're trying to do yet. |
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| 14:33.55 | _Fremen_ | it does not boot as I said and recovery mod stucks at IPV6 configuration |
| 14:35.48 | zodd | _Fremen_, use a live USB/CD/DVD and read the logs. Then you will know what to avoid/take care of when reinstalling |
| 14:35.56 | zodd | sounds like a fubared system |
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| 14:37.07 | zodd | or if it can more or less boot, open a text console at F2 or something and fix things |
| 14:37.56 | _Fremen_ | ok I get text console |
| 14:37.58 | greycat | "at F2" being shorthand for "press Ctrl-Alt-F2" |
| 14:38.19 | _Fremen_ | should I do "sudo apt install -f" and "dpkg --configure -a" |
| 14:39.05 | greycat | that will only help if you believe there are unconfigured or partly-installed packages |
| 14:39.21 | greycat | have you seen any evidence that this is the case? |
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| 14:40.55 | KjetilK | I'm trying to install Buster on a Lenovo Yoga C940 (14â) Laptop (the most recent version with i7-1065G7), but when I get to the partitioner, it doesn't list the system disk |
| 14:41.13 | _Fremen_ | dpkg: "error processing pachage kernel nvidia driver, returned error" etc. |
| 14:41.14 | dpkg | _Fremen_: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 14:41.45 | greycat | sounds like a good starting point |
| 14:41.47 | KjetilK | any advice to figure out why it doesn't list the system disk? |
| 14:42.02 | _Fremen_ | I deleted the pachage and no more errors it seems? |
| 14:42.10 | _Fremen_ | both commands work correctly |
| 14:42.13 | _Fremen_ | rebooting now |
| 14:43.29 | zodd | KjetilK, check the thinkwiki site, maybe use a cutting edge liveCD/DVD/USB to see what interface/chipset and what drive are in play and search the web on that |
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| 14:44.54 | KjetilK | zodd: OK, I'll look there |
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| 14:57.33 | itacos | Hi, i'm looking for a state on build image tool in debian, there is a lot of tool (live-build, live-wrapper, debian-cd, simple-cdd, openstack-debian-images, fai-diskimage, ...) and is a bit confusing to choose the right tool ... |
| 14:58.36 | itacos | i want to build a custom live image for arm64 arch |
| 14:59.10 | greycat | !debian-live |
| 14:59.10 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. NOT recommended for installing Debian. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . https://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive #debian-live on irc.debian.org; also see <live login>, <uefi live>. |
| 14:59.16 | greycat | they might know more about it |
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| 15:00.39 | itacos | humm, i have try but nobody is in the chan |
| 15:01.11 | KjetilK | So, it seems I may have a problem with the NVMe drive on the Lenovo Yoga, dmesg says "GPT:Primary header thinks Alt. header is not at the end of the dist." |
| 15:01.25 | KjetilK | err, disk* |
| 15:01.43 | greycat | There are 36 people in it, but I don't know whether any of them are active. The specialized channels will probably have a much slower pace. |
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| 15:02.43 | itacos | greycat: oups wrong server sorry, thanks for your help |
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| 15:10.36 | ca1ek | I'm having trouble with poor internet speeds on Debian. |
| 15:11.51 | ca1ek | I have a 100/50 connection, on my phone via WiFi I get 30/1, on my PC with Debian via LAN I get 10/50 |
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| 15:13.08 | ca1ek | Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06) |
| 15:13.58 | deadmarshal | hi. i installed debian with xfce. xfce doesn't run when i login. what should i do? |
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| 15:17.03 | allizom | ca1ek: do you have another host at your place to run iperf on? |
| 15:18.26 | ca1ek | does it need to be ran on both ends? or is it some kind of magic? |
| 15:18.32 | ca1ek | i can get my laptop set up |
| 15:18.49 | ca1ek | yep, i'll get the laptop |
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| 15:19.19 | ca1ek | i'm running testing btw |
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| 15:19.36 | allizom | you have to run it on two hosts |
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| 15:26.00 | ca1ek | huh |
| 15:26.20 | ca1ek | it's 100mbit/s, so it must be the routers fault |
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| 15:29.30 | rander2 | !grub |
| 15:29.30 | dpkg | GNU GRUB 2 is a portable and powerful boot loader. Ask me about <grub config> and <grub default>. To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 #grub on irc.freenode.net. See also <grub legacy>. |
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| 15:30.04 | ca1ek | However, when I do a speedtest from my laptop I get 80/50 |
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| 15:32.26 | allizom | ca1ek: how are you conducting this test? |
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| 15:33.15 | ca1ek_ | I swapped the ports and now both devices work fine |
| 15:33.27 | ca1ek_ | it's weird since I've done that yesterday and it made no difference |
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| 15:34.44 | rander2 | it's possible broke a usb memory with dd if=/..... |
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| 15:35.42 | rander2 | I have a usb scandisk key and I can't delete the partitions |
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| 15:38.36 | rander2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:42.41 | zodd | KjetilK, I have had a similar issue some time ago. Solution was then to boot with a parted liveCD and wipe the disk and next to add a new partitiontable. However then you will loose windows rescue, systeminstall, etc partitions |
| 15:42.42 | rander2 | if the folder /boot/efi isn't present , the system isn't in uefi mode ? |
| 15:42.53 | kaliuser888 | hello |
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| 15:42.58 | Janni | Hello. |
| 15:43.00 | kaliuser888 | helloervreynoe |
| 15:43.06 | rander2 | hi |
| 15:43.10 | kaliuser888 | ææ¯ä¸å½äºº |
| 15:43.42 | zodd | afaik that is not part of the English alphabet |
| 15:43.59 | ayekat | I can only read the part that reads "chinese person", and I guess the answer is "not here" |
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| 15:44.08 | JyZyXEL | rander2: more like if 'efibootmgr' fails, .. |
| 15:44.12 | kaliuser888 | i;m |
| 15:44.14 | kaliuser888 | back |
| 15:44.26 | greycat | !kali |
| 15:44.27 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 15:44.35 | annadane | they left |
| 15:44.51 | greycat | they returned |
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| 15:45.00 | annadane | i can't read |
| 15:45.06 | rander2 | JyZyXEL, what about 'efibootmgr ? |
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| 15:47.07 | kaliuser888 | so |
| 15:47.19 | kaliuser888 | you guys americans? |
| 15:47.38 | Akuw | i have a special device that has a network interface, so because i dont know ip address i used wireshark to know ip, but i want to know if there is a comand to do the same |
| 15:47.39 | kaliuser888 | woshi zhonggr |
| 15:47.41 | pasiz | most here are debians |
| 15:47.50 | Ede|Popede | Nation of Debian |
| 15:47.55 | greycat | We don't support Kali, and this is an English channel. |
| 15:47.56 | joepublic | This is a world forum. The people live where each lives. |
| 15:47.56 | kaliuser888 | kali from debians bro |
| 15:48.12 | joepublic | dpkg, tell kaliuser888 about based on debian |
| 15:48.14 | pasiz | Akuw: with arp you could assign ip to mac |
| 15:48.34 | Ede|Popede | still different. japanese was influenced by chinese, still... or try to get through europe with latin nowadays. |
| 15:48.39 | pasiz | many network cameras use that method |
| 15:48.46 | kaliuser888 | xiaorib guiszi |
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| 15:48.49 | kaliuser888 | j |
| 15:49.02 | kaliuser888 | ä¸è¦æå°æ¥æ¬é¬¼ååä¸å½äººç¸æ¯ |
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| 15:49.15 | Ede|Popede | !cn |
| 15:49.15 | dpkg | å¦ææ¨æ³è¦ä»¥ä¸æå¾å° Debian ç¸éçåå©ï¼è«å å
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| 15:49.17 | kaliuser888 | dont compare chinese and jaapnese pig |
| 15:49.20 | zodd | kaliuser888, what is your goal? kick/ban? |
| 15:49.22 | Ede|Popede | yea, looks similar |
| 15:49.25 | rander2 | if the folder /boot/efi don't exist the system are running without UEFI ? |
| 15:49.38 | kaliuser888 | chinese are great people |
| 15:49.41 | joepublic | if debian and kali are same-same, so are any two asian languages. you can't have it both ways. |
| 15:49.47 | kaliuser888 | jampnese are pig |
| 15:49.52 | kaliuser888 | they are pig |
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| 15:50.01 | Ede|Popede | you're but a racist, get lost |
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| 15:50.52 | Haohmaru | * ChanServ sets mode: +o greycat ... <greycat_intensifies.gif> |
| 15:51.41 | Ede|Popede | Haohmaru: thanks. now i have to think of those endless running animes. |
| 15:51.43 | rander2 | chinese are full of corona virus |
| 15:52.32 | Haohmaru | i'm more scared to go to .au |
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| 15:52.34 | Ede|Popede | actually sounds like some bored wanna be h4x0r kid in quarantine |
| 15:52.52 | joepublic | I am pretty sure viruses don't check geographical boundaries before infecting. Similar to the reason "Doctors without Borders" exists. |
| 15:53.23 | Haohmaru | viruses are more tolerant than us ;P~ |
| 15:53.38 | Haohmaru | they hug anyone |
| 15:54.00 | Ede|Popede | that's our PC, Haohmaru. every culture and nation has to right to be topic of satire :) |
| 15:54.06 | annadane | jesus christ |
| 15:54.34 | pasiz | oh, is he on #debian right now? |
| 15:54.35 | Haohmaru | santa claus |
| 15:54.35 | annadane | 1) don't use kali linux as a desktop, it's not meant to be used that way, use something sane like debian 2) don't be racist in this channel |
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| 15:54.52 | cstls | ty annadane |
| 15:55.10 | greycat | 2a) don't be racist in any other channels, either |
| 15:55.12 | cstls | someone kb these fools |
| 15:55.23 | Haohmaru | no need, they got muted |
| 15:55.45 | greycat | I muted the one that was triggering the others, and I'm hoping the others just go back to their shadows. |
| 15:56.02 | Haohmaru | goes back to ze shadowz |
| 15:56.21 | Ede|Popede | returns to the vashta nerada |
| 15:56.23 | pasiz | shadow is always good mechanism for passwd |
| 15:56.27 | Haohmaru | hey, who turn off the lights here |
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| 15:59.22 | ws2k3 | which version of mysql-server was in debian 7 ? i cant seem to find a package list for debian 7 |
| 15:59.43 | greycat | so you have me on ignore? or you got disconnected before you saw my answer the last time this was asked? |
| 16:00.00 | greycat | also, why can't YOU just do your own apt-cache search? that's all I did. |
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| 16:00.50 | greycat | Just in case it was disconnection rather than you ignoring me: how to fish: apt-cache search --names-only mysql server |
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| 16:01.26 | Ede|Popede | no disconnect i'd say â * [ws2k3] idle 00:01:23, signon: Wed Jun 26 23:02:54 |
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| 16:02.45 | ws2k3 | greycat: i think it wont show the version for other version of the distro |
| 16:02.46 | greycat | The two instances of the question appear identical, too. So they're just hitting uparrow + enter, or pasting the same question with the mouse, and not showing ANY signs that they spent the hour and a half between instances of the question using their own resources. |
| 16:02.52 | ws2k3 | im on debian 10 |
| 16:03.10 | greycat | Well, you haven't ignored me? OK, then read the answer I gave after the first instance of the question. |
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| 16:04.47 | Ede|Popede | ws2k3, did you look here? http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/ |
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| 16:05.35 | greycat | or they could try "/lastlog mysql" and see the answer that I gave, along with the two instances of their question, and various other chatter recently |
| 16:05.52 | Ede|Popede | hell, for how long is 5.5 going on already? |
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| 16:26.58 | rander2 | how add a swap partition permanently ? |
| 16:27.27 | greycat | create the partition, use mkswap to initialize it, put a line in /etc/fstab, and then use swapon to activate it |
| 16:27.29 | rander2 | am I edit /etc/fstab and add UUID of the partition? |
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| 16:28.03 | rander2 | I have the partition, but it don't start automatically |
| 16:28.12 | greycat | UUID is the preferred way, yes, unless you want to use a label |
| 16:28.42 | rander2 | how do I find the UUID , it's /dev/sda2 |
| 16:28.59 | Ede|Popede | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.04 | greycat | "sudo blkid" Is one way |
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| 16:30.22 | rander2 | blkid |
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| 16:32.18 | rander2 | reboot |
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| 16:40.46 | Ede|Popede | rander2: why reboot? to activate the swap? |
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| 16:41.31 | rander2 | I installed another distribution near deb10, and UUID in deb10 is changed. It's possible that the other distribution changed the UUID ? |
| 16:41.33 | greycat | to test that the fstab line is correct, presumably -- although that's why I said to use swapon AFTER the fstab line, because swapon will test whether the line is working |
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| 16:41.51 | greycat | rander2: yes, it is. |
| 16:42.11 | greycat | And Debian's installer will probably do the same thing, if you let it. I remember seeing posts about that on the mailing list. |
| 16:42.20 | rander2 | fstab is good, I rebooted and swap is on |
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| 16:43.45 | rander2 | the other distribution should not write on deb10 partition, it's strange |
| 16:44.12 | greycat | you'll have to take that up with them |
| 16:44.46 | greycat | by the way, it's common to share a single swap partition across multiple Linux installations on the same machine |
| 16:46.07 | rander2 | yes, usually more distribution share the same swap |
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| 16:47.22 | greycat | In the Olden Days, when we used /dev/hda2 in fstab, it didn't matter if each installation overwrote the same swap partition, because they all found it by partition number -- but that's no longer viable. |
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| 16:48.25 | ratrace | partlabel to the rescue! |
| 16:48.35 | rander2 | hda was the old pata hd controller |
| 16:48.45 | greycat | I did say Olden. |
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| 16:49.06 | pasiz | greycat: in 1996 that was good practice |
| 16:49.49 | jelly | rander2: uuid is a property of a formatted filesystem. In general other OSes should not touch filesystems that are not theirs, but who knows |
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| 16:51.10 | rander2 | that is if a filesystem is reformatted , the UUID change ? |
| 16:51.16 | jelly | if you told the other distro to use the same partition for its swap, it stands to reason its installer might recreate the swap and in process the newly mkswap-ped signature would gain a different uuid |
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| 16:51.23 | jelly | yes |
| 16:52.16 | rander2 | UUID is calculated or it's written in the formatted partition ? |
| 16:52.21 | Ede|Popede | so partuuid would be safer for swap then? |
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| 16:52.34 | rander2 | I believed it were like a hash |
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| 16:52.54 | rander2 | as sha1 , md5 ... |
| 16:53.23 | ratrace | I use partlabels. |
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| 16:53.52 | Ede|Popede | rander2 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4122 |
| 16:54.37 | greycat | Here's one thread on the subject, but I can't find Felix Miata's message that's being quoted. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00207.html |
| 16:55.15 | jelly | rander2: it's written down as part of the mkfs/mkswap |
| 16:56.01 | jelly | process. Some filesystems allow it to be changed at will (without touching anything else, without losing data) |
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| 16:58.25 | rander2 | ok, but UUID is written in the disk or it's calculated ? |
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| 17:00.35 | jelly | generated and written, not calculated based on any other properties of the filesystem |
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| 17:01.27 | jelly | there's a tool to generate those, uuidgen |
| 17:02.09 | jelly | and if you ldd /sbin/mkswap you see it's using libuuid.so.1 for something |
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| 17:02.18 | rander2 | uuidgen generate a code every time it's started |
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| 17:02.37 | ratrace | speaking of, anyone using swap atop luks atop raid md? seems like the initramfs support for that ordering (mdadm -> systemd-cryptsetup) isn't happening. |
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| 17:03.30 | ratrace | in particular, I'm talking about systemd cryptsetup support for on-the-fly swap formatting on boot with a random key. |
| 17:03.55 | jelly | I have swap on md, and swap on lvm on luks, but not swap on (lvm on) luks on md |
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| 17:04.30 | ratrace | jelly: using crypttab with /dev/urandom for the key, and plain (non-luks) crypto? |
| 17:05.00 | jelly | I like hibernation to work, no random keys for me |
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| 17:05.43 | jelly | my / and /var and swap are all on top of the same luks |
| 17:06.00 | Akuw | i configured a local repository, all is working fine, but one package giving problems |
| 17:06.05 | Akuw | Depends: libccid (>= 1.4.1~) but it is not going to be installed |
| 17:06.22 | jelly | !bat |
| 17:06.22 | dpkg | [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use https://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 17:06.25 | jelly | Akuw: ^ |
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| 17:27.22 | TRS-80 | Good day, fine people! |
| 17:27.49 | TRS-80 | I should have probably reported this the other day when I came across it, but better late then never, I suppose... |
| 17:27.57 | TRS-80 | https://paste.debian.net/1134138 |
| 17:28.13 | dob1 | it's spam? |
| 17:28.40 | dob1 | I don't who can delete pastes here |
| 17:28.51 | TRS-80 | dob1: no, worse |
| 17:29.32 | greycat | It claims to be child porn, and gives a .onion URL and a magnet: link. |
| 17:29.51 | dob1 | it should be removed |
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| 17:32.33 | NetTerminalGene | do you guys configure trim or whatever for your ssd? |
| 17:32.42 | NetTerminalGene | or you use stock |
| 17:32.45 | NetTerminalGene | ? |
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| 17:35.40 | annadane | i thought on buster you don't need to configure trim, or something |
| 17:35.45 | annadane | i don't remember |
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| 17:40.16 | jelly | I run fstrim when I remember, maybe every couple weeks-months |
| 17:41.24 | TRS-80 | jelly: Are you on Debian or Windows XP? XD |
| 17:41.54 | TRS-80 | I kid, but, is that necessary in 2020? |
| 17:42.01 | annadane | there's fstrim.service you can enable, i think |
| 17:42.28 | annadane | trying to remember where this is documented, maybe the wiki page for NewInBuster |
| 17:42.59 | annadane | or indeed the wiki page for ssdoptimization |
| 17:43.00 | jelly | TRS-80: this system does not have all the settings that come with Debian 10 by default |
| 17:44.26 | annadane | https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization |
| 17:44.33 | TRS-80 | jelly: Aah, thanks for clarification. |
| 17:44.41 | fleursdu | i've never done anything to the ssd for any linux installs |
| 17:45.22 | TRS-80 | Forbidden <p>You are not allowed to access this!</p> |
| 17:45.59 | TRS-80 | Since we are in #debiam, I been meaning to point out the fact that Debian Wiki seems to always block VPNs (well, at least PIA)... |
| 17:46.15 | TRS-80 | s/#debiam/#debian |
| 17:46.19 | jelly | the wiki forbids access from some vpn services due to abuse |
| 17:46.38 | fleursdu | TRS-80: change you exit port ? |
| 17:46.49 | TRS-80 | I mean, I just go to another proxy, but still, it's just an annoyance (and not very freedom respecting) |
| 17:47.18 | greycat | You know what else is not freedom-respecting? Spammers. |
| 17:47.23 | fleursdu | TRS-80: try it on tor probably worse |
| 17:47.52 | jelly | the wiki is conspicuously absent from the list of services available via Tor, to https://onion.debian.org/ |
| 17:48.05 | TRS-80 | greycat: I get it, it's a balance / challenge. That's why I don't raise the issue before. But I just happened to be in here right now, so... |
| 17:48.19 | greycat | Granted, I do not know why the wiki admins chose to block READ access instead of just write access from the compromised IPs, but maybe they had good reasons. Like runaway spider bots or something. |
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| 17:49.20 | TRS-80 | greycat: my thoughts exactly, on both counts |
| 17:49.22 | fleursdu | TRS-80: PIA is kind of the cheapo vpn isp , fwiw |
| 17:49.46 | TRS-80 | fleursdu: Yes that is one of reasons why I like them. :) |
| 17:50.15 | jelly | they also own and manage freenode, so however cheap they may be, some of their stuff seems to work well |
| 17:50.57 | TRS-80 | jelly: yeah I noticed they put quite a bit back into various F/LOSS projects, which is nice |
| 17:51.41 | jelly | okay, freenode pages say it's managed by volunteers |
| 17:51.42 | TRS-80 | fleursdu: also they do not keep logs (proven in court) and accept gift cards as payment (which can be easily bought anywhere for cash) |
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| 17:52.49 | annadane | PIA is sort of something i treat as toxic refuse given the general aura of paid articles/promotions and the fact VPN companies can be relatively dishonest |
| 17:52.59 | annadane | i don't think they're necessarily untrustworthy, but still |
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| 17:54.35 | fleursdu | anyway not the #channel for vpn nonsense |
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| 17:55.04 | TRS-80 | annadane: that just seems to me the nature of the whole market of researching / shopping for VPN though |
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| 17:56.10 | annadane | offtopic but i may as well drop https://thatoneprivacysite.net/ here |
| 17:56.17 | annadane | and now, back to debian stuff |
| 17:57.14 | annadane | like me failing to answer SSD questions. :P |
| 17:58.42 | TRS-80 | annadane: at one point I read and researched this quite a lot, and I was convinced by PIA juristiction arguments |
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| 17:59.28 | annadane | oh for sure, you can make your own judgements, just that the average person doesn't really know about some of the shadier aspects of VPN comparisons generally |
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| 18:02.52 | annadane | (btw "proven in court, no logs" is actually a good and valuable and legitimate piece of evidence) |
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| 18:04.20 | fleursdu | the intel world has a lot of money to launder into encryption |
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| 18:05.50 | jelly | annadane: this is precisely why I trust my ISP's dns servers... I know there are no logs. |
| 18:07.13 | dvs | or there's https://1.1.1.1/dns/ |
| 18:07.51 | netmk | "trust ISP.. no logs." okay. |
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| 18:13.40 | zerocool | friends i have a question. using apt-mirror, there is one URL that gives me 404 '/debian buster-backports/main Translation-en' anyone know what i need to link where to solve this? |
| 18:13.53 | greycat | !buster-backports |
| 18:13.54 | dpkg | Some packages intended for Bullseye (Debian 11) but recompiled for use with Buster (Debian 10) can be found in the buster-backports repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . Ask me about <bdo>, <backports>. |
| 18:14.02 | greycat | make sure you actually read the Instructions page |
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| 18:17.35 | jelly | netmk: of course. The trick is to be employed at the ISP and admin those dns servers. |
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| 18:21.34 | fleursdu | i'm thinking some older ssd never update their firmware after a certain point? |
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| 18:28.47 | TRS-80 | fleursdu: the implications that ssd/hdd still have proprietary closed firmware gives me the creeps |
| 18:29.02 | TRS-80 | it's one of the few closed areas left that I cannot do anything about |
| 18:29.11 | TRS-80 | (currently. anyway) |
| 18:30.02 | ub3g33k | TRS-80: Model I, II, III, or IV? Or Coco? |
| 18:30.21 | ub3g33k | :P |
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| 18:52.25 | benwright | I noticed occasional soft locking with a Ryzen 3950x on debian 5.2 but not 5.4. I know they improved support between 5.2 and 5.4 but does anyone know if there is a specific bug? |
| 18:52.43 | benwright | (Numbering is kernel numbering not debian versioning) |
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| 18:53.24 | greycat | benwright: the #debian-next channel on the other network might know more about the testing/unstable/experimental kernels |
| 18:53.46 | Ede|Popede | benwright: this "36s lockup on CPU#" with system freezes? if so, i had it with wheezy at some point, disappeared with stretch |
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| 19:36.22 | no_gravity | Looks like Debian10 has query cache enabled by default in MariaDB. In MySql the default is off these days, right? |
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| 19:38.55 | lupulo | no_gravity, because the swap? |
| 19:39.39 | no_gravity | lupulo: What? |
| 19:39.39 | lupulo | no_gravity, all system hadn't swap, didn't it? |
| 19:39.49 | lupulo | for cache!¿ |
| 19:40.04 | no_gravity | Sorry, I don't know what you mean. |
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| 19:51.25 | Ede|Popede | lupulo: that seems about DB caching, not related to swapping. |
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