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| 00:12.45 | expert975 | Does Debian include atheros firmware? |
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| 01:07.25 | hanasaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.39 | annadane | in general, crossposting is discouraged |
| 01:07.51 | annadane | especially as you've now effectively done it in 3 channels, freenode, oftc, and the forums |
| 01:08.52 | hanasaki | sorry about that. arnt they different nets? |
| 01:09.04 | annadane | !crossposting |
| 01:09.08 | annadane | !crosspost |
| 01:09.08 | dpkg | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
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| 01:10.04 | hanasaki | thank you. is one of these considered the "official" debian channel? also, I did post in 2. how did it end up in 3? |
| 01:10.34 | annadane | i said 3 because you also asked on the forums... oftc is technically official, this one has more users, but it doesn't really matter either way |
| 01:11.21 | annadane | posting to the forums and then to one of the #debians isn't too bad but especially going to both channels with your question is just a bit discouraged |
| 01:11.26 | annadane | it's fine, just keep it in mind in future |
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| 01:12.57 | sponix | I think what he should do is argue |
| 01:13.03 | sponix | that is always productive |
| 01:19.18 | hanasaki | annadane: thank you. I appreciate your help |
| 01:20.48 | hanasaki | what package, or packages, would you suggest to accomplish: imapS, smtp encrypted, SSO, and a web interface for both email and calendaring? |
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| 02:39.11 | gry_ | i have a debian install. user wants to replace it with another os. how do i back up the whole thing to restore in case they need to come back to the current state later? it is a laptop. we have lots of free space. |
| 02:39.22 | gry | hi |
| 02:41.38 | pingouin | gry: isn't "Clonezilla" one of the right softwares to do that ? |
| 02:43.38 | gry | hi pingouin. clonezilla sounds ok, and is packaged. we will try it. thank you |
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| 03:16.52 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. Is /etc/network/interfaces still used in Buster? I can't get bond0 to show up after editing it |
| 03:17.12 | nkuttler | cls |
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| 03:17.28 | Pegasus_RPG | ifup bond0 just keeps saying it can't find that interface |
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| 03:18.23 | Pegasus_RPG | Is /etc/network/interfaces still used in Buster? |
| 03:18.49 | nkuttler | Pegasus_RPG: sure, see man 5 interfaces |
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| 03:20.12 | Pegasus_RPG | nkuttler: okay, I thought so since a fresh install has the file. But I've added config for a bonded interface as I've done many times before on other boxes and I can't get the system to see the new interface. I've loaded the bonding module, so what am I doing wrong? |
| 03:20.36 | nkuttler | Pegasus_RPG: paste your interfaces file |
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| 03:25.08 | Pegasus_RPG | http://paste.debian.net/1139654/ |
| 03:25.17 | tds | Pegasus_RPG: have you installed ifenslave? |
| 03:25.25 | Pegasus_RPG | tds: yes |
| 03:25.50 | tds | what's the output of ifup --verbose bond0? |
| 03:26.14 | tds | I suspect you'll need the inet6 line after the entire first inet stanza btw |
| 03:26.31 | tds | and you may need inet manual config for eno5 and eno7 |
| 03:28.19 | Pegasus_RPG | http://paste.debian.net/1139655/ |
| 03:28.46 | tds | yeah, move the inet6 stanza down to after the inet one (and all the config for it) |
| 03:29.32 | tds | you also want bond-slaves rather than slaves |
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| 03:45.45 | Pegasus_RPG | tds: wow, that did it! Thank you |
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| 04:29.32 | ritalinona | so if I have I successfully connect to my vpn via openvpn, am able to ping 8.8.8.8 but not resolve domains, and change /etc/resolv.conf to be: nameserver 8.8.8.8 and then am able to resolve domains what would be the way I resolve the underlying issue |
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| 04:30.19 | derpadmin | what is in your resolv.conf before you override it ritalinona? |
| 04:31.05 | ritalinona | its set to the router ip but actually mm, I'm in a VM shouldnt it be different? |
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| 04:34.14 | derpadmin | Put this line on your client configuration (client.conf or xxxx.ovpnfile) |
| 04:34.14 | derpadmin | dhcp-option DNS 11.22.33.44 |
| 04:34.37 | derpadmin | so set your 8.8.8.8 there I guess |
| 04:35.34 | petn-randall | ritalinona: I'd debug why your DNS server after connection doesn't work anymore. |
| 04:36.05 | petn-randall | ritalinona: Might be that the openvpn config sets a new DNS IP address that is a typo, or the server is pushing DNS options that are faulty. |
| 04:36.06 | ritalinona | so I dont want to use 8.8.8.8, I just used that as a test to know the issue is what it is |
| 04:36.33 | ritalinona | petn-randall: how would I go about finding that out |
| 04:36.50 | ritalinona | err what am I looking for in the config |
| 04:37.09 | derpadmin | can you try to ping your router ip once the vpn is on? |
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| 04:40.13 | ritalinona | derpadmin: I can ping my router yes |
| 04:40.38 | ritalinona | oo wait a min |
| 04:40.42 | derpadmin | can you "dig @routerip google.com" |
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| 04:41.20 | ritalinona | jk can ping, trying dig |
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| 04:43.05 | ritalinona | derpadmin: connection timed out |
| 04:43.14 | derpadmin | ah |
| 04:43.20 | derpadmin | open 2 terminals now |
| 04:43.22 | ritalinona | what does that tell you |
| 04:43.31 | derpadmin | in one, you'll do the dig |
| 04:43.32 | ritalinona | way ahead of you, done |
| 04:43.42 | derpadmin | in another one "tcpdump port 53" |
| 04:45.02 | ritalinona | eehh nothing happened with the: tcpdump port 53 |
| 04:45.25 | derpadmin | probably on the wrong interface |
| 04:45.39 | derpadmin | tcpdump -i [interface name] port 53 |
| 04:45.55 | ritalinona | I only have eth0 because this is a vm |
| 04:46.01 | derpadmin | try both on your tun interface and regular interface |
| 04:46.14 | derpadmin | you have a tun interface after the vpn is started no? |
| 04:46.14 | ritalinona | ok |
| 04:46.20 | ritalinona | oh yeah |
| 04:48.59 | petn-randall | ritalinona: Check the openvpn logs, it should tell you if it changed the nameserver. Or just look into /etc/resolv.conf before and after connecting to the openvpn server. |
| 04:49.09 | ritalinona | oh ok so on -i tun0 I got: IP [my vm's ip] > [router ip].domain : 59122+ [1au] A? google.com (51) |
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| 04:49.49 | derpadmin | ritalinona : so he sends the request via the vpn that have no clue where yourrouterip is :) |
| 04:49.51 | ritalinona | petn-randall: it didnt change the nameserver after connecting |
| 04:49.59 | usney | is rust installed by default in debian? |
| 04:50.09 | petn-randall | usney: no |
| 04:50.18 | usney | cool thank you! |
| 04:53.24 | ritalinona | derpadmin: I'm not picking up what you're implying the answer is |
| 04:54.00 | derpadmin | ritaliona : your router ip is a private ip right? |
| 04:54.06 | ritalinona | ya |
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| 04:54.40 | petn-randall | I'm guessing that openvpn is overwriting the routing to your local subnet, and that's why it fails. |
| 04:54.55 | derpadmin | petn-randall : bingo |
| 04:55.05 | derpadmin | I made a script with my nordvpn |
| 04:55.12 | derpadmin | adding routes after |
| 04:56.57 | ritalinona | petn-randall: so what do I do from here |
| 04:57.30 | derpadmin | add your router ip to a route with a smaller mask that the vpn route |
| 04:58.25 | derpadmin | /usr/sbin/ip route add routerip/32 via routerip |
| 04:59.54 | ritalinona | can you ELI5 why thats gonna work |
| 05:01.06 | derpadmin | ritalinona : smaller subnets routes have precedence on default routes |
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| 05:04.14 | ritalinona | derpadmin, it gives the error: Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway. |
| 05:05.03 | ritalinona | and just so were on the same page my host is x.x.x.x/24 |
| 05:06.56 | derpadmin | ip route add x.x.x.x/24 dev eth0 |
| 05:06.59 | derpadmin | try this ^ |
| 05:08.56 | ritalinona | Error: Invalid prefix for given prefix length. |
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| 05:10.12 | derpadmin | if it is a /24, the network should be x.x.x.0/24 |
| 05:10.40 | ritalinona | um so I just thought for shits and giggles to try the tcpdump & ping router ip while vpn is off and while ping does work, tcp got nothing for eth0 |
| 05:10.40 | derpadmin | ip route add x.x.x.0/24 dev eth0 |
| 05:10.41 | ritalinona | >.> |
| 05:11.09 | ritalinona | to last: oh. ya that worked |
| 05:11.23 | ritalinona | now do the original thing? |
| 05:11.38 | ritalinona | OH with .0/24 |
| 05:11.51 | derpadmin | yes |
| 05:12.06 | ritalinona | ok ya that worked |
| 05:12.21 | ritalinona | restart vpn then |
| 05:12.48 | derpadmin | if restarting the vpn destroy the route, you will need to re-add it |
| 05:13.53 | ritalinona | fek |
| 05:13.54 | ritalinona | why |
| 05:16.34 | derpadmin | openvpn override your routes |
| 05:16.39 | derpadmin | ip route show |
| 05:16.52 | ritalinona | ya when I do that it totally messes with openpvn |
| 05:16.57 | ritalinona | *openvpn |
| 05:17.33 | ritalinona | not only can it not connect (it cant resolve) but then I have to kill -9 it to get it to stop |
| 05:18.20 | ritalinona | ya and I cant make any connections now |
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| 06:24.39 | phunyguy | Hey all, I am trying to do something that I thought was simple, but it's kicking my butt. I just want to boot to an initramfs that has networking enabled, and a proper IP, then curl a luks key from a local server as an unlock key for the root disk. When it boots, the network seems to not be available, even though I specified the IP in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf. It jst drops to a password prompt from my script. Here is the script |
| 06:24.40 | phunyguy | that should be pulling the key from a webserver: https://paste.debian.net/1139667/, here is /etc/crypttab: https://paste.debian.net/1139668/, and here is the initramfs hooks to include it all: https://paste.debian.net/1139669/ - initramfs.conf has IP=172.16.x.x::172.16.x.x:255.255.0.0::eno1:off |
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| 07:48.57 | trek00 | phunyguy: you script seems to have bashism inside |
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| 07:50.22 | trek00 | phunyguy: i should not work with default sh or busybox sh |
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| 07:54.31 | trek00 | phunyguy: try run it manually with /bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/openluksdevices.sh |
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| 08:09.29 | phunyguy | trek00 I did. I don't think the script is the problem. I am not getting network at all pre-unlock. |
| 08:10.42 | phunyguy | the script seems to sleep for 60s, then fails on the pings because no network. |
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| 08:13.54 | trek00 | phunyguy: do you configured something like that? https://www.eugenemdavis.com/set-static-ip-initramfs.html |
| 08:14.23 | phunyguy | trek00, yes :( |
| 08:14.37 | trek00 | :/ |
| 08:14.57 | ratrace | phunyguy: why don't you just use regular unlocking mchanism and just supply your own keyscript (crypttab option)? |
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| 08:15.30 | ratrace | it's designed exactly for this use case, to give the (regular) unlocking mechanism the passphrase to use, if console input is not it |
| 08:16.05 | phunyguy | I thought that is what I was trying to do? |
| 08:16.09 | ratrace | as for the network, the IP line should work, but iirc in my tests it was fidgety and sensitive and I think you need to supply the hostname as well. the final :off is not needed |
| 08:16.49 | ratrace | phunyguy: oh right, sorry my bad, I didn't see you psoted crypttab as well |
| 08:17.36 | phunyguy | idk. I'm so tired. Linux is exhausting. I'll try again tomorrow. thanks all. |
| 08:18.12 | trek00 | phunyguy: you crypttab calls /usr/local/sbin/openluksdevices.sh |
| 08:18.15 | trek00 | is that available? |
| 08:18.15 | annadane | !coffee phunyguy |
| 08:18.16 | dpkg | decants a fine brew of organic Colombian for phunyguy, courtesy of annadane |
| 08:18.34 | trek00 | i see you copyed to ${DESTDIR}/lib/cryptsetup/scripts/ in the initramfs hook |
| 08:18.42 | ratrace | phunyguy: from my ansible deployment script for encrypted rootfs https://bpaste.net/CAVA |
| 08:19.52 | phunyguy | trek, I did an lsinitramfs command. it's there. |
| 08:20.34 | trek00 | phunyguy: it seems you script is not called at all |
| 08:20.37 | phunyguy | ratrace thanks. I'll take a look after a brief stint in my time machine. |
| 08:20.38 | trek00 | your |
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| 08:21.25 | phunyguy | trek00 feel free to pm me your thoughts. |
| 08:21.36 | trek00 | :) |
| 08:21.38 | phunyguy | thanks in advance. |
| 08:21.53 | phunyguy | see you tomorrow. |
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| 08:29.26 | BCMM | where do /lib/firmware/`uname -r` directories come from? i have a couple of those, for kernels that are no longer installed, and dpkg -S doesn't show any package owning them |
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| 08:40.08 | trek00 | BCMM: there are firmware-* packages |
| 08:40.36 | trek00 | BCMM: but if dpkg -S don't find them, they are installed not via debian packages |
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| 08:40.48 | BCMM | trek00: yes, but as far as i can see they install to /lib/firmware/drivername |
| 08:41.00 | trek00 | BCMM: probably installed manually |
| 08:41.05 | BCMM | i was wondering if they were artefacts of initramfs creation or something |
| 08:41.14 | BCMM | i certainly didn't install them manually myself |
| 08:41.38 | trek00 | BCMM: i don't have any /lib/firmware/kernel_version |
| 08:41.48 | BCMM | i have installed custom-built kernels before but that was from the kernel's own .deb target, not just `make install` or something |
| 08:42.01 | ratrace | phunyguy: oh just one thing, I think but I'm not sure, it's dropbear's presence that triggers initramfs into setting up networking. I'll have to dig deeper into the hooks, but just a thought :: even if you don't intend to ssh in, having dropbear available might not be bad idea |
| 08:42.19 | trek00 | BCMM: custom built kernel don't create a firmware directory as far i know |
| 08:42.58 | ratrace | BCMM: if you're custom building your kernel, the kernel has options to embed firmware at compile time |
| 08:43.16 | BCMM | still shouldn't be creating files dpkg doesnt' know about |
| 08:43.22 | trek00 | but if it was made with make deb-pkg then you should find them with dpkg -S |
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| 09:33.00 | heller_ | hey guys. i'm starting to use docker, since i would like to install apache on a docker. I'm confused on what version to install. Should i use docker.io, docker-ce or something else? |
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| 09:34.24 | ratrace | heller_: I believe the debian package is docker.io |
| 09:34.28 | ratrace | ,v docker.io |
| 09:34.29 | judd | Package: docker.io on amd64 -- buster: 18.09.1+dfsg1-7.1+deb10u1; buster-security: 18.09.1+dfsg1-7.1+deb10u1; bullseye: 19.03.6+dfsg1-2; sid: 19.03.6+dfsg1-2 |
| 09:34.35 | ratrace | !info docker.io |
| 09:34.40 | dpkg | docker.io: (Linux container runtime), section admin, is optional. Version: 19.03.6+dfsg1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 47472 kB, Installed size: 182633 kB |
| 09:34.44 | heller_ | it is yes. but im not sure which one i should go with. since i see different tutorials for them |
| 09:34.53 | ratrace | heller_: the one packaged in Debian |
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| 09:35.24 | heller_ | is docker.io only compatible with ubuntu/debian? |
| 09:35.30 | heller_ | should i try docker-ce first? |
| 09:36.05 | ratrace | it's the same thing, just named differently. docker.io package in debian is the docker-ce upstream |
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| 09:36.51 | ratrace | it's docker "Community Edition", because docker also provides the enterprise edition which is not packaged by distros due to license |
| 09:37.28 | heller_ | so if install docker.io, i can later run same dockers with docker-ce? |
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| 09:38.41 | ratrace | heller_: I assume so yes. I don't know what's backwards compatibility policy for docker |
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| 12:43.54 | rocketmagnet | hi everyone |
| 12:44.00 | rocketmagnet | where is the trash folder located ?? |
| 12:44.19 | rocketmagnet | i have some thing in my trash and i'm not able to recover it |
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| 12:44.24 | karlpinc | heller_: You might also consider podman, which is docker compatible. I don't know how the features compare with docker-ce and docker.io but would be interested in hearing. |
| 12:49.57 | diogenes_ | rocketmagnet, .local/share/Trash/ |
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| 12:55.33 | heller_ | karlpinc: im not the one who should test that :) |
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| 13:02.30 | ice9 | for postfix mail serverr, do you prefer to keep the Maildir under user's home or under /var/ in one place for all users? |
| 13:03.23 | ratrace | in one place, and it's not under /var in my preference |
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| 13:07.11 | karlpinc | ice9: I keep it in the user's home, but have separate users for mail that don't have Unix login priviliges. |
| 13:07.34 | karlpinc | ice9: And the mail user's home is not in /home/. |
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| 13:14.59 | ws2k3 | how how can i create a 2 gb partition useing fdisk? cause it asks for me for the last sector. or what am i misunderstanding here? |
| 13:15.50 | jukebohi | ws2k3: maybe you can change the unit from sectors to GB. Not sure though |
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| 13:16.50 | ratrace | according to teh internet, fdisk permits suffixes like MB or GB |
| 13:17.10 | aaro | ws2k3: much simpler to use parted if you have it available |
| 13:17.28 | ratrace | parted is what I use and recommend yes. there's also cfdisk, the user _friendlier_ fdisk |
| 13:19.30 | ws2k3 | ratrace does parted support gpt? |
| 13:19.41 | ratrace | ws2k3: yup |
| 13:19.53 | ratrace | "mklabel gpt" |
| 13:20.48 | ws2k3 | ratrace what is the different between a primary and an extented partition |
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| 13:22.12 | ratrace | ws2k3: technically none. it was a way to work around the inability of the early MBR based scheme to go beyond 4 partitions |
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| 13:25.14 | ws2k3 | ratrace how do i specify the size. cause parted also asks me start and end of the partition |
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| 13:26.23 | ratrace | ws2k3: set the unit with "unit" command. eg. unit mib to work in mebibytes. then to create a partition starting at 1000 MiB and of 10000MiB size, you just mkpart somelabelhere 1000 10000 |
| 13:26.46 | ratrace | oh wait, the second number is not size but offset.... so 11000 |
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| 13:30.20 | ws2k3 | ratrace which file system type do i need to specify in parted for a zfs partition? |
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| 13:30.29 | ratrace | webstrand: neither, you can mkfs later |
| 13:30.34 | ratrace | ws2k3: ^^^ |
| 13:31.02 | ws2k3 | ratrace hmm i still need to enter a start? |
| 13:31.25 | ws2k3 | i cant say just all the free space with parted? |
| 13:31.36 | ratrace | ws2k3: yes, you can see where the last one ends with "print". yes , use -1 for offset |
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| 13:33.46 | qman__ | ws2k3: I suggest using -1M as the end boundary, gives you some wiggle room in case you ever have to recover data and copy it to a drive that is ever so slightly smaller |
| 13:34.08 | qman__ | and you won't miss a single megabyte |
| 13:34.27 | ratrace | qman__: that's only required for things like mdadm where replacement device needs same sector size |
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| 13:34.55 | ratrace | if your drive is full literally to the last sector... well... you've got other issues :) |
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| 14:05.21 | ws2k3 | ratrace currently i get Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance. should i worry about this? |
| 14:05.39 | ws2k3 | i jjust did name boot type ext2 start 0 end 2GB |
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| 14:07.26 | ratrace | ws2k3: yes and you should skip the first MB |
| 14:08.04 | ws2k3 | odd when i did it like 20 mins ago it didnt ask for that |
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| 14:12.48 | ratrace | ws2k3: are you using correct "unit"? |
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| 14:15.35 | karlpinc | ws2k3: (So long as you're messing about, you might consider using LVM to make future fiddling easier.) |
| 14:15.57 | karlpinc | ws2k3: Spinning platter or SSD? |
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| 14:29.21 | guix-vits | Hi there. Is 'override_dh_auto_test: ' means 'no tests'? |
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| 14:29.55 | guix-vits | like no `make check`, etc? |
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| 14:33.55 | simplicius | hello |
| 14:34.14 | simplicius | I get fatal error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory even if I have the library installed and compiled other programs with it |
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| 14:34.38 | karlpinc | !errors |
| 14:34.38 | dpkg | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. Please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead; ask me about <pastebin>. |
| 14:35.24 | simplicius | it cannot find #include <gtk/gtk.h> |
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| 14:37.10 | guix-vits | shame that i found it faster in manual. ah, Debian... |
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| 14:38.34 | karlpinc | We need to know what it is that people are trying to do before we can provide help. |
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| 14:54.39 | velix | Is it possible to remove the unused network drivers from Debian? |
| 14:55.03 | velix | During installation, you're getting asked, to keep the drivers in use only. |
| 14:55.03 | sponix | velix: why would you want to ? |
| 14:55.08 | velix | sponix: Just curious |
| 14:55.20 | velix | sponix: Because it's possible to set during installation. |
| 14:55.54 | sponix | velix: Oh... I've only done the easy mode GUI install of Debian 10. Never even seen that option |
| 14:56.15 | velix | sponix: Oh okay. It asks you to install all drivers or just the ones for the devices currently in use. |
| 14:56.16 | sponix | from the net install |
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| 15:09.49 | karlpinc | velix: It is usually very handy to have all the drivers installed, unless you are really short on disk space, so that if the hardware fails you can move the drive to another box. |
| 15:10.06 | velix | karlpinc: I know, I just was curious. |
| 15:10.38 | velix | Normally, Debian has scripts for about anything :D |
| 15:11.17 | simplicius | I can compile c code but not cpp |
| 15:13.11 | Ede|Popede | ,file gtk/gtk.h |
| 15:13.15 | judd | Search for gtk/gtk.h in buster/amd64: libgtk-3-dev: usr/include/gtk-3.0/gtk/gtk.h; libgtk2.0-dev: usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h |
| 15:13.27 | sponix | simplicius: did you apt install build-essential ? |
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| 15:14.25 | simplicius | sponix: what could be the matter? |
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| 15:20.35 | simplicius | sponix: no I didn't but why I can compile c code and GTK? |
| 15:20.45 | simplicius | and I can compile also C++ code.. |
| 15:21.20 | sponix | simplicius: what do you think cpp stands for ? |
| 15:21.42 | sponix | simplicius: in terminal as root run: apt install build-essential |
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| 15:21.55 | sponix | to at least make sure you have the basic build tools needed for most things |
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| 15:24.29 | simplicius | it's the same... |
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| 15:28.26 | lwp | simplicius, can you paste for us the command you are running, and the output that results (including the error message) please |
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| 15:29.24 | simplicius | lwp: I'm running this https://paste.gnome.org/pwf5nuy7n |
| 15:29.42 | simplicius | the error is fatal error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory |
| 15:29.48 | simplicius | I've the gtk.h file |
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| 15:30.44 | b1ack0p | hi |
| 15:30.44 | simplicius | these are the files: https://github.com/davidesapienza/Briscola |
| 15:30.56 | lwp | simplicius, I don't see what command you entered, and I don't see any output at all. are you doing this from a text command line, or some GUI thing ? |
| 15:31.05 | b1ack0p | how can i set "setxkbmap" setting permanent on my debian/xfce ? |
| 15:31.22 | b1ack0p | everytime i logout-in or reboot it looses the setting |
| 15:31.33 | b1ack0p | i have to set layout everytime i boot |
| 15:31.58 | simplicius | lwp: the command is make |
| 15:32.07 | simplicius | that is a Makefile |
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| 15:33.25 | sponix | simplicius: that gtk.h file is a header - so you probably need a gtk3-dev like package installed to have the gtk headers available |
| 15:33.46 | sponix | ,file gtk.h |
| 15:33.49 | judd | Search for gtk.h in buster/amd64: [truncated] libcanberra-gtk-common-dev: usr/include/canberra-gtk.h; libclaws-mail-dev: usr/include/claws-mail/imap_gtk.h, usr/include/claws-mail/mh_gtk.h, usr/include/claws-mail/news_gtk.h, usr/include/claws-mail/password_gtk.h, usr/include/claws-mail/prefs_gtk.h; libdebconfclient0-dev: usr/include/cdebconf/cdebconf_gtk.h; libcheese-gtk-dev: usr/include/cheese |
| 15:33.50 | judd | /cheese-gtk.h; libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-dev: usr/include/Aiksaurus/AiksaurusGTK.h; libreofficekit-dev: usr/include/LibreOfficeKit/LibreOfficeKitGtk.h; libcolord-gtk-dev: usr/include/colord-1/colord-gtk.h; gnunet-gtk-dev: usr/include/gnunet-gtk/gnunet_gtk.h; faust-common: usr/include/faust/gui/faustgtk.h; libgarcon-gtk3-1-dev: usr/include/garcon-gtk3-1/garcon-gtk/garcon-gtk.h; libgarcon-1-dev: (1 more message) |
| 15:34.15 | simplicius | I am telling you that I have another program that I can compile using the same header.. |
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| 15:34.44 | sponix | ,file gtk/gtk.h |
| 15:34.47 | judd | Search for gtk/gtk.h in buster/amd64: libgtk-3-dev: usr/include/gtk-3.0/gtk/gtk.h; libgtk2.0-dev: usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h |
| 15:35.20 | sponix | simplicius: there is your answer... Install libgtk-3-dev and try again |
| 15:36.15 | simplicius | oh god.... I've already told you: libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version (3.24.5-1). |
| 15:36.55 | sponix | sorry, I am following too many chats to focus it seems :P |
| 15:38.56 | simplicius | and look also this https://paste.gnome.org/pipayzpip |
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| 15:48.22 | ratrace | simplicius: sounds like the program you're compiling needs to specify include prefixes better. |
| 15:48.35 | ratrace | or it's makefile or configure or whatever you have there, does. |
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| 15:48.47 | simplicius | ratrace: I found the problem |
| 15:49.04 | simplicius | If I compile with a single command the header is included.. |
| 15:49.15 | ratrace | good. also please note that problems issuing from compiling random programs is not quite ontopic in #debian |
| 15:49.18 | simplicius | could you tell me what's the problem in the makefile? |
| 15:51.37 | sponix | simplicius: pretty sure he is recommending you try #debian-offtopic |
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| 15:52.26 | ratrace | not specifically. there could be that program or framework or libraries used has a channel of its own. or some general C programming channel. |
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| 15:54.29 | karlpinc | I wouldn't say that compiling 3rd party programs on debian is offtopic. Just that there could be better places to get support. |
| 15:54.54 | karlpinc | Anything involving using debian is on-topic. And compiling is a perfectly good use of debian. |
| 15:55.29 | ratrace | with infinite problem domain... |
| 15:57.54 | lwp | it does help when the question does not involve secret commands, and secret error output. we still haven't seen actual examples |
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| 16:35.31 | phunyguy | ratrace: not sure if it was you or not, but someone suggested installing dropbear-initramfs to get my remote unlock via http working, and that was the solution. |
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| 16:36.27 | phunyguy | I do get a warning with update-initramfs saying that my keyfile in crypttab is not valid so remote unlocking won't work, but it does, just not via ssh. Any way to suppress that warning? NOt a huge deal, just an annoyance. |
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| 16:40.43 | ratrace | phunyguy: yeah I recommended |
| 16:41.34 | ratrace | phunyguy: no, you can't suppress that, leave it. the whole initramfs crypto thing is very... fragile and undocumented :: the only documentation is going through the initramfs hooks and scripts for crypto |
| 16:42.23 | ratrace | phunyguy: alternatively you could copy dropbear-initramfs scripts and hooks (relevant to getting networking up and runng) and shove them into /etc/initramfs-tools/... |
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| 17:02.07 | phunyguy | ratrace: thanks for the tips, this is fine for now then. |
| 17:02.27 | phunyguy | this works well enough, just doing QA testing now before I roll it to the rest of the cluster. |
| 17:02.34 | phunyguy | trying to break it |
| 17:02.50 | ratrace | phunyguy: lemme just ask one thing, as I was planning to do exactly the same thing, we use openssh initiated unlocking for now with custom keyscript... |
| 17:03.04 | ratrace | phunyguy: did you need to bring in anything special other than curl? openssl for TLS/https? |
| 17:03.14 | phunyguy | It's just http:// for now |
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| 17:03.34 | ratrace | phunyguy: intranet? |
| 17:03.36 | phunyguy | the network that the device with the key sits on is trusted and firewalled off from the rest of the network, behind lock and key |
| 17:03.40 | phunyguy | yeah |
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| 17:03.56 | ratrace | ah k. my OCD would still scream though :) |
| 17:04.32 | phunyguy | it's an interesting setup. I have an older netgear router as an AP, with OpenWRT on it and nginx on port 8080, with VLANs presented so that it has a leg into that network, while serving actual wifi/ports through the house on another VLAN. |
| 17:05.38 | phunyguy | I have my trusted network segmented off behind a VPN wall, and all management interfaces live behind that. So now if I have guests, I have the wifi password in a picture frame for them all to see and use the wifi freely, and the things I care about are tucked away. |
| 17:06.07 | phunyguy | but this is getting offtopic. |
| 17:06.49 | ratrace | wise setup. I have something similar. static config on all home computers in 10.0.0.0/8 net, and guests used dhcp in 192.168.x.x/24 subnet. |
| 17:07.21 | ratrace | I still enforce MAC filtering for wifi though... |
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| 17:08.44 | phunyguy | ratrace: let me know please if you get https going with this, I'd like to do the same myself, but have to get this cluster going first. |
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| 17:09.08 | ratrace | phunyguy: will do |
| 17:09.25 | phunyguy | truth be told, it's proxmox on top of debian, but I haven't installed proxmox yet so the support still can happen here XD |
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| 17:09.49 | ratrace | phunyguy: I do assume copy_exec will do all that's needed, after all it's just libssl, no other automagic |
| 17:10.38 | ratrace | phunyguy: looking at ldd now, wget has halfa lib count, so I might use that instead |
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| 17:10.56 | phunyguy | interesting |
| 17:11.14 | ratrace | but no libssl ... I wonder now, does it do anything dynamic at runtime with it ... |
| 17:11.58 | ratrace | ah gnutls, nice. |
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| 17:36.39 | spigot | I can use rmadison to show available versions of sources from official repos, and apt-cache policy to see available versions of compiled debs- is there a command to show available versions of package sources from all the sources defined in my various deb-src lines? |
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| 17:51.30 | valoga | with dpkg-buildpackage, is it possible to point to an existing directory containing the source to be built? |
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| 17:53.36 | b1ack0p | !dpkg subtitle |
| 17:53.43 | b1ack0p | .dpkp subtitle |
| 17:53.55 | b1ack0p | .dpkg subtitle |
| 17:54.03 | b1ack0p | what was the command to check a package? |
| 17:54.21 | sney | check? |
| 17:54.26 | sney | ,info bash |
| 17:54.27 | judd | Package bash (shells, required) in buster/amd64: GNU Bourne Again SHell. Version: 5.0-4; Size: 1345.3k; Installed: 6439k; Homepage: http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/bash/bashtop.html; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/bash |
| 17:54.28 | b1ack0p | yes |
| 17:54.28 | sney | like that? |
| 17:54.41 | b1ack0p | well there was a command to check a package |
| 17:54.44 | sney | !msg the bot |
| 17:54.44 | dpkg | Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . Also ask me about <judd>, which is another bot and window into the Ultimate Debian Database. |
| 17:54.46 | b1ack0p | ,dpkg subtitle |
| 17:55.11 | sney | it's , for judd commands or ! for dpkg commands |
| 17:55.31 | b1ack0p | ! didnt work also |
| 17:56.02 | sney | you don't include the bot name, just the command |
| 17:56.26 | b1ack0p | do i need bot name? |
| 17:56.33 | b1ack0p | nvm |
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| 18:07.53 | velix | Why does Debian carry so much default .bashrc? In /root/, in /etc/ and in /etc/skel/ ? |
| 18:08.46 | velix | And all are different :D |
| 18:09.29 | somiaj | velix: is this a fresh install or something that has been updated through different releases. |
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| 18:10.07 | somiaj | note the system bashrc in /etc and the user bashrc in /etc/skel should be diffrent. I would assume /root is using the one from /etc/skel at the time the root account was created, whcih could have been a few releases back if you upgrade. |
| 18:10.17 | velix | somiaj: Fresh Buster. |
| 18:10.29 | velix | somiaj: No, root is using a pretty empty one. |
| 18:10.50 | somiaj | maybe it has something to do with the installer, in either case, I wouldn't worry to much about it and edit it to your liking. |
| 18:11.06 | velix | somiaj: Yeah, but which one is the right one? I wonder there is none in /etc/defaults |
| 18:11.19 | somiaj | why would there be one in /etc/defaults |
| 18:11.29 | velix | somiaj: to apply for every new user |
| 18:11.50 | somiaj | you should read man bash for what files it reads based on interactive vs login shells |
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| 18:12.11 | velix | somiaj: Okay, didn't know it's a bash thing. Thought it's a Debian thing (that's why I asked here). |
| 18:12.22 | somiaj | /etc/bashrc is the system, /etc/skel/.bashrc is the file that gets copied to $HOME when a new user is added |
| 18:12.42 | somiaj | once a file is in $HOME, ther user can edit it however they like |
| 18:12.45 | annadane | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.18 | somiaj | must be /root/.bashrc is comming from the installer (or maybe deboostrap), Since the root user isn't craeted like other users it could be different. |
| 18:15.09 | somiaj | velix: in the man page scroll down to INVOCATION, it describes exactly how bash parses the various config files |
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| 18:15.34 | somiaj | debian just provides defaults/samples that you can build from, but these are config files, and can be modified to fit your systems needs. |
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| 18:15.56 | velix | Sure, I just was confused, which sample to start with ;) |
| 18:16.02 | velix | Thanks, I'll keep on reading. |
| 18:16.04 | somiaj | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.22 | velix | Makes sense now. Thanks. |
| 18:16.31 | velix | wrote this down to remember |
| 18:16.39 | somiaj | in most cases use the /etc/skel/foo and put it in the user's $HOME directory, as you should worry about user configuration. System configuration can be changed, but often only needed if you have lots of users. |
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| 18:20.15 | velix | Thanks. I've used bashrc from skel for root and changed PS1 a bit to mark it's root. |
| 18:22.30 | velix | Man... so many nice PS1 examples on the web. |
| 18:23.14 | joepublic | there's a few pretty nice ones in debian's default /etc/skel too |
| 18:23.37 | somiaj | oh yea, that is probably why /root/.bashrc is different, one second. |
| 18:24.42 | somiaj | I have a chroot I created with debootstrap in which /root/.bashrc, /root/.profile are created, these defaults are probabaly created by debootstrap during the install. |
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| 18:59.09 | d34df00d | Hi! I'm trying to install a package from debian experimental ( libqxmpp-dev/experimental), but it fails as follows: http://leechcraft.org:8080/job/CI%20base%20images/distro=debian_experimental,label=real/913/console |
| 18:59.12 | d34df00d | What am I doing wrong? |
| 18:59.32 | d34df00d | Dang, just noticed #debian-next, will go there. Sorry! |
| 18:59.32 | annadane | experimental packages really aren't meant to just be installed willy-nilly |
| 19:00.01 | d34df00d | annadane: that totally makes sense. But what shall I do if I'd like to use that package? |
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| 19:00.51 | annadane | i would ask #debian-next about that, but i do see you have a ton of conflicting dependencies and even in #debian-next that's a really messy question |
| 19:00.59 | annadane | they'll have a better idea |
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| 19:01.21 | d34df00d | Thanks! |
| 19:02.22 | annadane | i would do some reading, in general, of what experimental is |
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| 19:02.30 | annadane | it's not really on the same footing as sid |
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| 19:02.50 | d34df00d | Sadly the version of that library that I need isn't in sid yet. |
| 19:02.53 | annadane | and it seems - through looking at it VERY briefly - not even to be a problem with that package but rather of a mess of dependencies on your system generally |
| 19:03.33 | d34df00d | annadane: well that's a very fresh setup I've pulled from (official?) debian experimental docker image. |
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| 19:03.48 | d34df00d | It worked super fine when I pulled from debian:unstable and installed all the same stuff but that library from unstable too. |
| 19:04.00 | annadane | okay. still, #debian-next |
| 19:04.12 | d34df00d | Yep. Went there, let's see if they'll be able to help. |
| 19:04.15 | d34df00d | Thanks for your time! |
| 19:04.23 | annadane | i'll join too because i'm curious to see what the issues are :P |
| 19:06.14 | annadane | incidentally i wonder if qt is going through a transition, that would explain all that stuff |
| 19:06.20 | annadane | it seems to all be qt packages |
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| 19:07.52 | d34df00d | That failure is for the third day in a row, and just after I picked qxmpp stuff from experimental. |
| 19:07.57 | d34df00d | So probably unlikely. |
| 19:08.07 | d34df00d | But I don't really have much experience with debian to tell. |
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| 19:08.29 | annadane | sure you want to run sid? :P |
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| 19:09.06 | d34df00d | That's just a sort of continuous integration to make sure my C++ stuff is sort-of-buildable within debian with minor hassle :] |
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| 19:09.29 | annadane | fair enough |
| 19:09.45 | d34df00d | (don't kick me lol but I personally run gentoo unstable so I'm used to stuff not being, eh, stable) |
| 19:10.03 | ratrace | d34df00d: gentoo <3 |
| 19:10.13 | annadane | one day i shall use teh gentoos |
| 19:10.18 | sysbrk | i am used to stuff not being stabel. my mind gives me mad practice. : ) |
| 19:10.25 | sysbrk | stable* |
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| 20:41.30 | natewik | Hello, I have a problem configuring wireless interface with static IP and wpa_supplicant on freshly installed Debian 10.3. I've configured the interface in /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf like this https://pastebin.com/QwTKxmr6 All works well after reboot, but if wireless connection will reconnect (I've tested it by powering off/on my AP) or if I run ifdown wlp2s0 && ifup wlp2s0 then it will reconnect successfully but the default route |
| 20:41.30 | natewik | will be missing, ip route only shows route to my subnet. If I use inet dhcp instead of inet static then all works well and I'm getting the default route after reconnect but I need to use inet static. What can be a problem with static network configuration? |
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| 20:52.05 | b1ack0p | how can i install this gnome extension? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/118/no-topleft-hot-corner/ |
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| 20:54.57 | shtrb | Will plasma now move to the non-free tree ? |
| 20:55.16 | annadane | what do you mean "now" |
| 20:55.19 | annadane | what are you referencing |
| 20:55.28 | shtrb | Qt closing down |
| 20:55.37 | shtrb | annadane, https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2020q2/006098.html?print=cGh4 |
| 20:55.38 | trek00 | shtrb: i don't think |
| 20:55.58 | trek00 | shtrb: the last qt version is always free |
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| 20:56.21 | sney | "Fortunately, the KDE Free Qt Foundation exists, which secures the continued |
| 20:56.22 | sney | existence of Open Source Qt:" |
| 20:56.42 | shtrb | trek00, I thought their announcement included the exiting versions(including LTS) |
| 20:56.49 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | Those two projects were maintained by the same company? |
| 20:57.08 | shtrb | no , but the base for plasma is Qt |
| 20:57.15 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | I see |
| 20:57.27 | pingouin | hello |
| 20:57.33 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | shtrb: So... why is the Qt company considering obsoleting themselves willingly? |
| 20:58.20 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | Are they going to pull an Oracle Java? |
| 20:58.24 | sney | looks like they'll either negotiate some way to keep the current arrangement, or the kde free foundation will have to fork a free release of qt and maintain it separately |
| 20:58.25 | shtrb | not enough revenue during the worst financial crisis since the great depression |
| 20:58.30 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | (Which, oh surprisingly, saw most of their users die) |
| 20:58.38 | trek00 | shtrb: new versions of qt may be will be not free for a year, but the actual version is free forever |
| 20:59.00 | shtrb | trek00, thanks for the explanation |
| 20:59.01 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | Ah, the annoying Jetbrains staggered model |
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| 21:01.13 | trek00 | natewik: i don't know why it does not appears but you could remove gateway from interfaces file and add post-up ip route add default via 192.168.0.1 dev wlp2s0 |
| 21:01.52 | natewik | trek00, I've tried post-up as well, it won't start as well |
| 21:03.07 | trek00 | natewik: you config is ok, it should run fine, but i don't know why you have issues, may be it tries to setup the default gateway before wpa supplicant finished is job |
| 21:04.13 | trek00 | pingouin: hello :) |
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| 21:07.21 | natewik | trek00, I'll try to fix it using wpa_cli action script on CONNECTED event. |
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| 21:08.22 | trek00 | natewik: yes you need to do some test as it should already work |
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| 21:14.51 | b1ack0p | hi again. |
| 21:14.59 | b1ack0p | how can i install this extension? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/118/no-topleft-hot-corner/ |
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| 21:18.33 | abrotman | did you try "Software Center"? |
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| 21:23.12 | b1ack0p | abrotman: isnt there |
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| 21:24.11 | b1ack0p | another question what is the terminal command to "show desktop" ? |
| 21:24.21 | annadane | they do give you an option to dl from their site, so i guess download the one for your gnome version, whatever that is in debian stale |
| 21:24.23 | annadane | stable |
| 21:24.27 | annadane | though, apropos typo i guess |
| 21:24.48 | b1ack0p | i downloaded a zipped file but i dont know how to install it |
| 21:24.52 | b1ack0p | from their website |
| 21:25.55 | trek00 | b1ack0p: i really don't know, may be you need to install at first a firefox extension? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux |
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| 21:26.52 | b1ack0p | trek00: it is gnome extension.. i dont think it is ffox |
| 21:27.20 | b1ack0p | well linux is fine but some little options missing that drives me crazy.. |
| 21:27.33 | b1ack0p | ordinary user cannot handle |
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| 21:28.18 | FUtz | hey guys anyone can help me with shellscript? when i do ./test.sh --ok (is ok) when i do ./test.sh with sintaxe is ok but if i do ./test.sh (without sintaxe) wrong --> code: https://pastebin.com/PMmy0XG5 |
| 21:28.38 | FUtz | where am i wrong? |
| 21:28.44 | FUtz | ./test.sh: line 4: [: ==: wait for unary operator |
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| 21:29.12 | trek00 | FUtz: you need to write if [ "$1" = "$check" ]; then |
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| 21:30.14 | FUtz | oh :D |
| 21:30.15 | FUtz | I am dumb |
| 21:30.18 | FUtz | thanks!! |
| 21:30.21 | trek00 | :) |
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| 21:39.30 | valoga | is "1.8.5+rr-1" not a versionable string? I released "1.8.5+rr-2" but it's not picking it up |
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| 21:53.43 | FUtz | trek00 u know how can i do to use command printf "TEST" to print and save "TEST" in file ok.txt ? |
| 21:53.43 | FUtz | i looked stdin stdout 2 > &1 but no worked |
| 21:53.55 | FUtz | i need print and saved in same time |
| 21:55.24 | trek00 | FUtz: if you want to save the output of $TEST command you can just write: $TEST "$1" >filename 2>&1 |
| 21:56.14 | natewik | echo test | tee stdout ok.txt |
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| 22:00.09 | FUtz | okk |
| 22:00.20 | FUtz | natewik trek00 thankss |
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| 22:20.55 | FUtz | natewik the command tee overwrite old file |
| 22:21.10 | FUtz | natewik i can use like >> ? |
| 22:21.24 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | tee -a is for append |
| 22:21.27 | dob1 | is there any command to see a clock with seconds? |
| 22:21.28 | natewik | use tee -a to append |
| 22:22.07 | FUtz | :D |
| 22:22.21 | FUtz | thks |
| 22:24.07 | natewik | dob1, date +"%m-%d-%y %H:%M:%S" |
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| 22:24.44 | dob1 | natewik, sorry I was not clear, a clock not just the at a given moment. I found tty-clock |
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| 22:28.09 | ws2k3 | what action should i do to install grub on a gpt disk? when i try to install grub i get grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible. |
| 22:34.20 | lupulo | ws2k3, you need a fat partition |
| 22:34.37 | lupulo | ws2k3, https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI |
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| 22:35.08 | lupulo | ws2k3, because it is like grubx64.efi, inside the fat partition |
| 22:35.35 | ws2k3 | lupulo i run on bios not uefi |
| 22:35.41 | jhutchins | I tried to do both on this laptop. When I boot, I gert "Invalid Partition Table" and it hangs until I hit any key. |
| 22:35.51 | ws2k3 | lupulo im reading i need to make a bios boot partition for this? |
| 22:36.19 | lupulo | ws2k3, if you find difficult that, you could see another project https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ |
| 22:36.39 | lupulo | ws2k3, uefi is another thing |
| 22:37.09 | lupulo | ws2k3, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REFIt |
| 22:38.39 | lupulo | ws2k3, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REFInd |
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| 22:39.12 | lupulo | ws2k3, if you install debian in your filesystem without grub and install that inside a pendrive you could boot from debian |
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| 22:39.35 | lupulo | efi doesn't hang out |
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| 22:42.29 | hk238 | hello, any advice on how to install torbrowser on debian? The instructions on debianwiki don't seem to be working? |
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| 22:44.01 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | Yes. |
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| 22:44.27 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | 'sudo apt install torbrowser-launcher', then run torbrowser-launcher |
| 22:44.36 | annadane | it's in backports |
| 22:44.40 | annadane | ,v torbrowser-launcher |
| 22:44.41 | judd | Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 -- jessie/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3; stretch-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.3.2-7~bpo9+1; buster-backports/contrib: 0.3.2-7~bpo10+1; bullseye/contrib: 0.3.2-7; sid/contrib: 0.3.2-7 |
| 22:44.41 | Aurora_iz_kosmos | Ah, worth saying it's in backports, yes |
| 22:44.48 | annadane | !debian backports |
| 22:44.48 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <buster backports>) and oldstable (<stretch backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 22:44.57 | annadane | you also need to add contrib to your sources.list |
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| 22:50.30 | hk238 | I followed the instructions accordingly on the wiki but it didn't work |
| 22:50.41 | hk238 | but then I downloaded it from the tor website and it seems to work |
| 22:51.10 | hk238 | Is there a DNS service useable by the browser to look up the IP of a website? |
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| 22:52.38 | ws2k3 | is it possible with parted to use just commands in the cli to do the stuff you want instead of using the parted menu? |
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| 23:01.05 | icomputo | debian is missing something like yast |
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| 23:03.17 | lupulo | icomputo, uk is missing something like SUSE :'( |
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| 23:05.21 | trek00 | icomputo: try synaptic |
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| 23:07.30 | BazookaTooth | ws2k3: see the man page |
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| 23:12.11 | Akuw | why i cont find fsu.edu in https://lookup.icann.org/lookup |
| 23:12.13 | Akuw | ? |
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| 23:16.09 | trek00 | Akuw: because .edu is not supported on this website, try with a more generic website or with dig kdig nslookup command line tools |
| 23:17.37 | LtL | Akuw: fsu.edu has address 146.201.111.62 |
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| 23:26.58 | InvisibleRasta | guys, kodi has to be installed from the jessie-backports repo? i am on buster |
| 23:27.35 | dvs | ,v kodi |
| 23:27.36 | judd | Package: kodi on amd64 -- stretch: 2:17.1+dfsg1-3; buster: 2:17.6+dfsg1-4+b1; bullseye: 2:18.6+dfsg1-1; sid: 2:18.6+dfsg1-2; stretch-multimedia: 5:17.6-dmo1+deb9u3; buster-multimedia: 5:18.6-dmo0+deb10u1; bullseye-multimedia: 5:18.6-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 5:18.6-dmo2 |
| 23:28.00 | InvisibleRasta | does this package come with the option to launch it as if it was a desktop environment? |
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| 23:33.56 | wikan | hello, I don't want to invent already invented thing |
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| 23:34.51 | wikan | never mind :| |
| 23:35.05 | wikan | dunno how to explain huh |
| 23:36.18 | wikan | do you know readable engine I could use to build my own language on it? |
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| 23:37.52 | wikan | i need to code small "language" tool to compile documents into something similar to wiki/book stuff |
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| 23:53.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | wikan, what language? There are many markup languages, do you want one that already exists? |
| 23:54.25 | wikan | well I wanna to write text, a lot of text |
| 23:54.27 | wikan | there are rules |
| 23:54.50 | wikan | so I "invented" language much readable than LaTeX and HTML |
| 23:55.16 | wikan | and I can define "nodes". Like "x" node can be inside "y" |
| 23:55.43 | wikan | it looks like ":desc Some description :title some title :section some section |
| 23:56.17 | wikan | and my scripts builds HTML documents |
| 23:56.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ok. |
| 23:56.44 | wikan | proof of concept told me it works and is good |
| 23:56.46 | trek00 | wikan: you should write a parser too, may be you can use instead something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReStructuredText |
| 23:56.51 | wikan | but now I wanna do it well |
| 23:57.32 | wikan | yea maybe |
| 23:57.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | wikan, consider a static site generator like Jekyll. You give it markup and some templates and you get HTML back. |
| 23:58.58 | wikan | but I look for something "normal" :) |
| 23:59.18 | wikan | you know... C/C++, something compiled |
| 23:59.31 | wikan | I am sick of ruby, python, nodejs stuff |