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| 00:03.07 | bumblefuzz | why is the kde live image booting to command line? |
| 00:03.21 | bumblefuzz | also, why is it booting to comand line after I installed it? |
| 00:03.33 | bumblefuzz | it's supposed to have KDE on it, right? |
| 00:04.05 | bumblefuzz | this one: debian-live-10.3.0-amd64-kde.iso |
| 00:05.23 | somiaj | the installer will install what you choose, I don't think it varies depending on the live image |
| 00:05.35 | somiaj | I'm unsure why the live image isn't booting into kde though. |
| 00:05.47 | bumblefuzz | there was no option to install kde in the installer |
| 00:05.56 | lwp | bumblefuzz, maybe you are missing some non-free firmware ? |
| 00:06.01 | bumblefuzz | if I didn't know any better, I'd say this is the CLI install image, not the KDE image |
| 00:06.16 | bumblefuzz | lwp how do I tell? |
| 00:06.18 | somiaj | the installer should get to a point it runs tasksel and lets you select which DE to install. |
| 00:06.20 | joepublic | there is no such. debian install is debian install. |
| 00:06.41 | bumblefuzz | somiaj no DE options were presented |
| 00:07.06 | somiaj | It is usually suggested you use an offical intaller over a live image. |
| 00:07.10 | joepublic | if you `sudo tasksel` you can see that screen and install your de. |
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| 00:07.55 | lwp | actually there is 3 versions of installer on live images now |
| 00:08.20 | somiaj | oh there is? I thought they tried to remove those and move to the debian-installer. |
| 00:08.31 | lwp | at the boot menu, you have text or graphical installers, and once inside the live image, you have calamares installer |
| 00:08.41 | lwp | !calamare |
| 00:08.45 | bumblefuzz | no live image ever appeared |
| 00:08.46 | lwp | !calamares |
| 00:08.46 | dpkg | Starting in Debian 10 Buster, the Calamares installer is included in the debian-live boot images. The (somewhat unreliable?) normal installer is also included, as one of the choices in the first menu after boot. Once in the live system look for an Install Debian icon, or type: sudo calamares See https://jonathancarter.org/2019/10/17/calamares-plans-for-debian-11/ and https://averagelinuxuser.com/debian-10-calamares/ |
| 00:08.47 | bumblefuzz | only cli |
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| 00:09.13 | lwp | bumblefuzz, what did this cli look like ? |
| 00:09.15 | bumblefuzz | also, tasksel gives the option to install kde but, after selecting it, it return immediately to the cli |
| 00:09.25 | bumblefuzz | lwp standard debian cli |
| 00:09.51 | lwp | look at your dmesg then, in that cli, and see if it is complaining of missing firmware |
| 00:09.56 | bumblefuzz | it didn't put the user in sudoers file too |
| 00:10.16 | bumblefuzz | lwp `dmseg...` ? |
| 00:10.41 | lwp | as root, dmesg | less |
| 00:11.42 | bumblefuzz | I did dmesg | grep firmware and only got back 1 line, not about any errors |
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| 00:13.01 | bumblefuzz | how would I start kde form the cli? |
| 00:13.44 | somiaj | you can try startx |
| 00:14.10 | bumblefuzz | it looks like it's working |
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| 00:14.24 | bumblefuzz | why wouldn't the live image or the full install do this? |
| 00:14.46 | somiaj | sounds like an issue with the display manger |
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| 00:29.48 | HighMemoryDaemon | I'm on Debian Unstable. Anyone know how I can search for |
| 00:29.48 | HighMemoryDaemon | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.48 | HighMemoryDaemon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:42.09 | annadane | !debian-next |
| 00:42.09 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 00:42.16 | annadane | HighMemoryDaemon, ^ |
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| 00:55.27 | HighMemoryDaemon | annadane: Apologies :( Luckily I figured the issue out. |
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| 01:02.21 | Gm4n | my debian system has started rebooting occasionally. how can I start tracking down if this is hardware or software? |
| 01:04.19 | Mr_Queue | c/2 |
| 01:04.48 | dvs | =3 |
| 01:05.05 | joepublic | c = 6 |
| 01:06.25 | tharkun | Good $DAY I am looking for a nas solution. Any suggestions? |
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| 01:11.09 | somiaj | Gm4n: are the reboots random? I don't know of anything that would reboot a system by default that isn't hardware. |
| 01:12.43 | tharkun | Just realized, wrong channel an apology. |
| 01:12.51 | dvs | !lart tharkun |
| 01:12.51 | dpkg | shoots tharkun in the head |
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| 01:12.58 | dvs | sheesh1 |
| 01:13.15 | cybercrypto | :) |
| 01:16.31 | Gm4n | somiaj: as far as I can tell. Is there anything I could look at that might let me start getting an idea how the system went down, though? Like, kernel panic vs power failure vs something else? |
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| 01:19.43 | cybercrypto | Gm4n: Is your journal fles configured to be 'persistent'? (what journalctl -b 1 tells you?) |
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| 01:25.29 | somiaj | Gm4n: check in /var/log and if you have have the directory /var/log/journal (I would cerate it if you don't) you can use journalctl to look through the systemd logs |
| 01:25.56 | somiaj | but /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/messages might contain some clues |
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| 01:31.34 | Gm4n | cybercrypto: looks like no, non-persistent (no persistent journal was found). somiaj, the man page for journald says that it uses /run/log/journal - do I also want to mkdir /var/log/journal? |
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| 01:32.36 | somiaj | Gm4n: /run is for the current boot only, debian is setup that if you create the direcotry /var/log/journal logs will be stored there through multiple reboots |
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| 01:32.57 | somiaj | This doesn't create by default on debian systems (Though I think ther eis some discussion about changing this) |
| 01:33.04 | somiaj | s/create/exist/ |
| 01:35.19 | cybercrypto | Gm4n: this means that you do not have journal information from previous boot (your journal is only recording current boot (you can check with journalctl -b). With that said, check the advise from somiaj. You could also consider enabling persistent journal. |
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| 01:46.30 | HeXiLeD | other than this https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TransparentProxy is there a specific debian how-to to get all traffic to use tor? (and yes i know tails and whonix) |
| 01:48.58 | woddf2 | I switched hard drives to try another OS, and now the Debian install on the main hard drive won't boot in UEFI mode. How do I make it boot again? |
| 01:49.14 | woddf2 | s/and now/and now after re-installing the main hard drive/ |
| 01:49.40 | somiaj | !fixmbr |
| 01:49.40 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 01:50.01 | somiaj | woddf2: ^^ you could try that, but since it is uefi, sometimes you can just point your firmware at the correct efi file on your efi parttion |
| 01:50.19 | woddf2 | somiaj: How do I do the latter? |
| 01:50.24 | somiaj | depends on your firmware |
| 01:50.31 | woddf2 | somiaj: Oh, and the drive in question has (almost) full disk encryption. |
| 01:50.38 | somiaj | (use to be called bios, but firwmare is more appropriate for efi systems) |
| 01:52.31 | woddf2 | somiaj: Oh, and even forcing UEFI doesn't work. |
| 01:52.43 | woddf2 | "Error 1962: No operating system found. Boot sequence will automatically repeat." |
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| 01:55.03 | woddf2 | 01:50:24 < somiaj> depends on your firmware <-- Would you happen to know how to do that on a mid-2010s Lenovo ThinkCentre? |
| 01:58.45 | somiaj | woddf2: go into the setup, and poke around in the boot options |
| 01:58.51 | woddf2 | somiaj: I tried that. |
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| 01:59.04 | somiaj | Oh my system I can actually browse the file system of my efi partition and tell it what efi file to use |
| 01:59.25 | somiaj | the other option is follow that factod, boot into a live system, unencrypt/mount your system and so on |
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| 02:00.15 | woddf2 | somiaj: Until debian-live-10.3.0-amd64-gnome.iso finishes downloading, I'm stuck. :-P |
| 02:03.15 | somiaj | I personally find grml a good recover system (don't need a fully gui for this) |
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| 02:04.27 | woddf2 | somiaj: I'll probably mostly use the shell anyway, but that was the image I originally used to install it. |
| 02:05.04 | woddf2 | I'm not on Ubuntu, but this appears to be the same problem I'm having: https://askubuntu.com/questions/706645/bios-not-recognize-internal-drive-as-bootable-after-disconnecting-and-connecting |
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| 02:42.11 | woddf2 | somiaj: That fixed it; thanks. |
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| 02:53.47 | Gm4n | if I'm seeing a lsb start job failing, where can I look up details on that job identifier? |
| 02:55.56 | HeXiLeD | is there such package like fluxbox-generate_menu for debian? |
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| 03:09.30 | BazookaTooth | v, menumaker |
| 03:10.37 | BazookaTooth | ,v menumaker |
| 03:10.38 | judd | No package named 'menumaker' was found in amd64. |
| 03:11.22 | BazookaTooth | HeXiLeD: menumaker is a thing but a bit old |
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| 03:50.49 | Gm4n | if a package can't be removed, how can I see where the post-removal script is failing? |
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| 03:54.29 | ghostnik11 | hey i want to partition some space is it safe to just use disk to partition a current drive? the drive has an os on it |
| 04:03.02 | somiaj | Gm4n: did the secript not produce any errors? You can findt he script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo and add set -x to it or do various other script debugging |
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| 04:04.54 | Wulf | Gm4n: if you don't care about the postrm script, you can replace it with "#!/bin/sh exit 0" |
| 04:05.09 | somiaj | and of course deal with any artificats that leaves behind |
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| 05:00.06 | usney | my computer just crashed and now I have rebooted. What command or commands do I need to enter in to see the logs for what caused that issue? is it dmesg? If it is dmesg what should I pipe the dmesg text file log I created? |
| 05:00.27 | usney | and use grep |
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| 05:06.38 | Ericounet | look at /var/log/messages |
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| 05:06.58 | Ericounet | and /var/log/daemon.log |
| 05:07.46 | usney | cool that you |
| 05:08.00 | usney | doesn't the dmesg command look in the messages log? |
| 05:08.15 | somiaj | or /var/log/kern.log, and if you have /var/log/journal, this means you have presistant journald, and you can use that to look at all logs fromt he last boot |
| 05:08.33 | somiaj | only part of it does, and due to systemd, now less than use to |
| 05:09.46 | usney | I am using ext4 on an installed system not a live usb. |
| 05:10.46 | usney | I have found some errors to correct that maybe the culprit it is a networking error about creating a backup file it is a long list of the same error. |
| 05:11.15 | Ericounet | yes, dmesg do it ... but you have only the last run, not the ones wo caused the crash |
| 05:11.43 | usney | yes I thought that could be a reason to not use it I wasn't sure as why I asked |
| 05:12.35 | usney | is there a guide to set this up in debian? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key |
| 05:13.08 | usney | I have this issue often system crashes I also run a lot of programs at the same time so maybe that could be the culprit too? |
| 05:13.10 | Wulf | usney: it should be already activated. |
| 05:13.35 | usney | last time my system froze the key combinations on wikipedia didn't work. |
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| 05:15.09 | binaryhermit | it is possible for a system to die so badly magic sysrq doesn't work |
| 05:15.44 | usney | oh okay |
| 05:16.07 | usney | yes that probably was the cause I am reading that you need to go to a console |
| 05:16.34 | usney | I already use ctrl alt f1-f7 regularly for different things |
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| 05:17.44 | usney | I should probably use a forum for this one. |
| 05:18.27 | usney | But thank you everyone for your informative sources for where to find this in the logs. |
| 05:19.07 | usney | I am using a very light desktop environment one that isn't common like lxde/lxqt or xfce. |
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| 05:19.47 | usney | So maybe it isn't a too much ram being used issue but it could be a too hot or processor being used too heavily at the time of the crash. |
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| 05:20.20 | usney | See you later everybody I am off to the forums. |
| 05:20.57 | megacoolvibes | I have a headache |
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| 05:21.10 | megacoolvibes | root@ip-172-31-33-21:/# php7.2 --version |
| 05:21.12 | megacoolvibes | installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 05:21.34 | megacoolvibes | Why is this happening? |
| 05:22.58 | usney | why is the problem? Is that the output you get when you run --version? |
| 05:23.38 | usney | All I can think is maybe you just installed some software or updated the repo recently |
| 05:24.13 | usney | see you everyone! I am no expert i hope a debian expert can help soon. |
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| 05:24.37 | megacoolvibes | Well I was trying to update the php on my server for my website |
| 05:24.50 | megacoolvibes | So I typed php --version, nothing showed |
| 05:25.03 | megacoolvibes | I typed php7.2 --version, nothing showed |
| 05:25.22 | megacoolvibes | So I thought maybe I should install some packages |
| 05:25.29 | usney | isn't the numbers have php the version? |
| 05:25.36 | usney | in php command |
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| 05:25.54 | megacoolvibes | No php command works. |
| 05:26.01 | megacoolvibes | When I type php --version |
| 05:26.09 | usney | wow |
| 05:26.10 | megacoolvibes | It says this: |
| 05:26.20 | megacoolvibes | bash: /usr/bin/php: No such file or directory |
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| 05:26.30 | usney | did you try installing it again? |
| 05:26.34 | megacoolvibes | Yes! |
| 05:26.46 | megacoolvibes | And it says |
| 05:26.48 | megacoolvibes | php7.2 is already the newest version (7.2.24-0ubuntu0.18.04.4). |
| 05:26.53 | megacoolvibes | LOL |
| 05:26.53 | usney | how about trying the whereis command? |
| 05:26.57 | usney | whereis php |
| 05:27.09 | megacoolvibes | php: /usr/lib/php /etc/php /usr/share/php7.2-opcache /usr/share/php7.2-common /usr/share/php7.2-curl /usr/share/php7.2-mysql /usr/share/php7.2-gd /usr/share/php7.2-json /usr/share/php7.2-readline /usr/share/php7.2-mbstring /usr/share/php7.2-xml |
| 05:27.23 | somiaj | megacoolvibes: are you running ubuntu? |
| 05:27.37 | usney | it doesn't list /usr/bin/php |
| 05:27.51 | usney | that's the issue it looks like |
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| 05:28.02 | megacoolvibes | Yes but nobody bothers to answer in ##ubuntu. And ubuntu is a Debian fork afaik |
| 05:28.06 | somiaj | !ubuntu |
| 05:28.06 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 05:28.20 | somiaj | megacoolvibes: still, this is not the place to ask for support for ubuntu, they may deal with their php packages differently |
| 05:28.40 | usney | you could use ubuntu forum or ubuntu on reddit megacoolvibes |
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| 05:29.18 | megacoolvibes | Well let's say I was using debian |
| 05:29.29 | usney | or you could search for "ubuntu /usr/bin/php: No such file or directory" without the quotes. |
| 05:29.31 | BazookaTooth | ... |
| 05:29.49 | usney | in a web search |
| 05:30.01 | somiaj | megacoolvibes: but you aren't, and ubuntu packages maybe different than debian, so our advise may not work. |
| 05:30.53 | megacoolvibes | The /usr/bin and /usr/lib aren't similar on Debian and Ubuntu as far as php is concerned? |
| 05:31.07 | usney | megacoolvibes, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1163872/bash-usr-bin-php-no-such-file-or-directory |
| 05:31.17 | megacoolvibes | Anyway sorry for bothering |
| 05:32.50 | usney | you are not bothering us you are just asking for support for a different Gnu/Linux system that is built differently so therefor it can't be supported here. |
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| 05:33.16 | usney | It does use apt and is mostly based on debian but still it isn't setup the same. |
| 05:33.28 | somiaj | megacoolvibes: We just like to point people to the proper place to get support. Part of what you choose with a distro is the support communinty, and #debian only supports debian pure blends. |
| 05:34.14 | megacoolvibes | I guess next time I'll go with debian then |
| 05:34.32 | megacoolvibes | You guys think it's better than Ubuntu for a webserver aim? |
| 05:34.54 | somiaj | Ubuntu has a decent support commuinty, I just think it might not be on irc. I always see good answers on their askubuntu.com forms. |
| 05:35.04 | qman__ | both will do that perfectly fine |
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| 05:35.20 | usney | I think ubuntu uses debian testing am I wrong? |
| 05:35.38 | usney | so it might not be as stable as the latest debian release. |
| 05:35.44 | somiaj | megacoolvibes: version of packages, philosophy, and length of support are things to consider. |
| 05:36.09 | qman__ | it's really about your preference more than anything else |
| 05:36.12 | somiaj | usney: ubuntu is actually quite different at the core, but it uses debian packages rebuilt from testing for its universe. |
| 05:36.21 | usney | cool |
| 05:36.37 | usney | I don't plan I using ubuntu so I don't know. |
| 05:37.01 | usney | I/on* |
| 05:37.57 | usney | But if it is located in a different spot than what the program is looking for it you can link it to where it is calling it from megacoolvibes . |
| 05:38.14 | usney | Go ask ubuntu for help on that. |
| 05:40.20 | usney | megacoolvibes, https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1049770.html |
| 05:40.45 | megacoolvibes | I need a more powerful machine anyway, I'll reinstall everything on Debian |
| 05:40.51 | megacoolvibes | Thanks for the help |
| 05:41.07 | usney | you can make a script to install all the software you need |
| 05:41.32 | usney | there is even a way to get all currently installed apps to install again later or on another machine. |
| 05:42.16 | usney | it may get errors though because of different versions or naming of that program so you can come here if you get those errors. |
| 05:43.11 | somiaj | I wouldn't suggest using a package list from ubuntu to install on debian, mostly due to large differences in the core of the os. |
| 05:44.12 | megacoolvibes | I only need php+modules/mysql/apache, so it's going to be okay |
| 05:44.35 | megacoolvibes | I'll type the appropriate commands for Debian one by one |
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| 05:45.35 | usney | okay sorry about that somiaj thanks for clarifying for us |
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| 05:47.08 | usney | if you installed everything from a terminal. I get my installed this that way so I only install software I manually installed. To do that I do "history | grep install" without the quotes entered into a terminal or console. |
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| 05:47.24 | usney | list this way* |
| 05:47.31 | somiaj | megacoolvibes: My suggestion is to install a minimial debian system, so at the end of the install unselect desktop enviorment, then select standard and ssh server (what I usually do), after that install the software you want using apt. |
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| 05:48.05 | usney | I like using tasksel tui app to install additional software like desktops and such. |
| 05:48.30 | usney | if you need it |
| 05:48.49 | usney | but I don't use that for my preferred GUI since it isn't in the list. |
| 05:50.03 | usney | I just openbox plus tint2 extremely lightweight sometimes puppy gnu/linux uses it as their default GUI or DE. |
| 05:50.22 | usney | Good luck megacoolvibes |
| 05:50.47 | somiaj | The nice thing about debian is the amount of choice one has, from full DEs, to light weight DEs, to simple window managers. |
| 05:51.04 | usney | YES very much so! |
| 05:52.46 | GeeKoyo | ;) <(") echo "Hello #debian" ^.^ Hope all is staying Safe these days.. |
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| 05:54.39 | megacoolvibes | I'm using AWS |
| 05:54.54 | usney | That's why I disagree with Linus saying that the Desktop Linux failed because of too many distributions and software choices. Maybe we could lessen the different distributions if the main Distributions the ones that haven't created their own and are based on one of the main distributions maybe the main distribution could add an installation meta package that refers to all the packages that distribution uses. But that probably would be too long of a |
| 05:54.54 | usney | list but maybe just for the really popular ones that aren't that different from the core like ubuntu is from debian. |
| 05:54.57 | megacoolvibes | There are 3 Debian distros available |
| 05:55.01 | megacoolvibes | 8,9,10 |
| 05:55.32 | usney | Just a thought |
| 05:55.47 | megacoolvibes | I don't need any DE. The server purpose is to only run my website backend. Media held by CDN |
| 05:55.49 | usney | well I am really going to go now and post my problem in the forums. |
| 05:56.18 | usney | cool megacoolvibes than debian is a great choice for that especially using the stable edition. |
| 05:58.36 | usney | Having many software choices is a must however that can't be sacrificed since some of the different choices are essential for certain setups like ones that require low resource usage. :) okay last thing to add. :) |
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| 07:06.46 | alkisg | Hi, are debian maintainers supposed to be able to login to sso.debian.org? Ever since Alioth went down, I'm unable to... |
| 07:12.42 | somiaj | alkisg: you might want to ask on #debian-mentors at irc.oftc.net. |
| 07:12.50 | alkisg | Thank you |
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| 07:14.01 | ViperXL75 | So I've come to a point where I'm considering upgrading my linux kernel. I currently run Debian9 stretch. uname -r says: 4.9.0-9-amd64 |
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| 07:14.52 | ViperXL75 | Yet I can't shake the feeling that I'm standing right now unknowingly pointing a gun at my foot. But I'm too dumb to realise that, until I actually shot my foot. |
| 07:15.49 | ViperXL75 | is it safe to "randomly" pick a kernel from the list? apt-cache search linux-image |
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| 07:19.04 | L0aD1nG | ViperXL75: you compiled the kernel 4.9 yourself? |
| 07:19.56 | ViperXL75 | No. At least... i don't think so. I installed Debian9 stretch from scratch and have been running it for the last 2 years or so. |
| 07:20.12 | kopper | ViperXL75: Without updates? |
| 07:20.34 | ViperXL75 | oh there has been updates from within the GUI of Debian |
| 07:21.17 | ViperXL75 | the "Software" GUI. |
| 07:21.17 | kopper | Then you probable have the latest available installed from that apt-cache search |
| 07:21.53 | L0aD1nG | ViperXL75: thinking about moving to buster (Debian 10)?? |
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| 07:22.17 | ViperXL75 | well not exactly. I'm just trying to get a little app to work. "Droidcam" |
| 07:22.23 | ViperXL75 | using phone as webcam |
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| 07:22.44 | ViperXL75 | i came across this error when installing: apt-cache search linux-image |
| 07:22.47 | ViperXL75 | crap sec |
| 07:23.03 | ViperXL75 | make[1]: *** /lib/modules/4.9.0-9-amd64/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
| 07:23.57 | ViperXL75 | When i try "apt-get install linux-headers-4.9.0-?" i dont see it listed in that list. |
| 07:24.26 | ViperXL75 | <-- Obviously still relatively new to poking under the hood in Linux. :( |
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| 07:26.18 | L0aD1nG | you might miss the linux-headers package, i search on the web and found one other guy that has the same issue |
| 07:26.31 | L0aD1nG | check this https://github.com/amzn/amzn-drivers/issues/74 |
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| 07:26.47 | ViperXL75 | on the internet, there has been some talk about 4.9.0-9-amd64 being rather headaches or unstable. And they say "the package was removed". So i thought... well maybe i have to move to another kernel version. |
| 07:27.01 | ViperXL75 | oh |
| 07:27.54 | somiaj | ViperXL75: why not upgrade stretch to buster? Any reason you want to stay on stretch (it does loose offical support somewhat in the next few months I think -- though it will have LTS support) |
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| 07:29.25 | ViperXL75 | oh damn |
| 07:29.27 | ViperXL75 | really? |
| 07:29.34 | ViperXL75 | Cuz i'm lazy as *** |
| 07:29.38 | ViperXL75 | well not lazy |
| 07:30.03 | somiaj | !stretch->buster |
| 07:30.07 | ViperXL75 | But I've been having a lot of pains with this machine |
| 07:30.19 | ViperXL75 | ehm... not sure what that means |
| 07:30.23 | ViperXL75 | !stretch->buster |
| 07:30.25 | ViperXL75 | ? |
| 07:30.32 | somiaj | dpkg: stretch->buster |
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| 07:31.07 | L0aD1nG | ViperXL75: you mean to reinstall it from scratch or upgrading from the terminal? |
| 07:31.15 | somiaj | dpkg: stretch->buster |
| 07:31.15 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/JFKc . TL;DR: In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "stretch" to "buster", remove lines like stretch-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade |
| 07:31.46 | somiaj | ViperXL75: debian is designed to be upgraded in place, that was a command for the bot to give you some basic guidelines, this will upgrade your kernel along with the rest of the sfotware you have intstalled to the new stable release buster. |
| 07:32.08 | ViperXL75 | ohhh |
| 07:32.10 | somiaj | ViperXL75: this of course should be done if you have enough time and make sure you have backups just in case somethign goes wrong. |
| 07:32.45 | ViperXL75 | debian can be upgraded in place ?!? |
| 07:32.49 | ViperXL75 | daaaaamn |
| 07:32.50 | ViperXL75 | ok |
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| 07:34.41 | somiaj | I would read that link, but there are people who are runnign the same debian install from 15-20 years ago |
| 07:34.53 | somiaj | just keep upgraing it from release to release over time |
| 07:35.11 | somiaj | Usually I only doa fresh install when I get a new machine, and then upgrade from there |
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| 07:35.27 | ViperXL75 | back in town... had to jump to WIFI |
| 07:35.46 | L0aD1nG | somiaj: i left my netbook on wheezy.. and its unable to upgrade now right? i should reinstall.. |
| 07:37.13 | somiaj | L0aD1nG: you can upgrade wheezy -> stretch, then you can upgrade stretch -> buster |
| 07:37.22 | somiaj | so it is still upgradable, but you have to do it one release at a time (don't skip) |
| 07:38.25 | L0aD1nG | somiaj: after wheezy it jessie, am i wrong? |
| 07:38.34 | L0aD1nG | s/it/it was |
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| 07:39.18 | somiaj | oh am I off a release, then yes jessie first |
| 07:39.38 | somiaj | releases will be on archive.debian.org if they aren't on the offical servers and still usable |
| 07:40.04 | L0aD1nG | somiaj: i ll might to a fresh install just for fun :) |
| 07:40.08 | somiaj | L0aD1nG: yea I was off so wheezy -> jessie -> stretch -> buster -- you can upgrade the whole way |
| 07:40.13 | L0aD1nG | setting up the system sometimes is fun |
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| 07:45.51 | L0aD1nG | debian 1.1 had supported 474 packages buster now supports ~59.000 thats cool. |
| 07:46.47 | BazookaTooth | silly to compare a stat like that tho :P |
| 07:46.54 | L0aD1nG | :D |
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| 07:47.14 | L0aD1nG | i was checking the history on wikipedia |
| 07:47.20 | BazookaTooth | ah |
| 07:47.41 | oxek | I have the option of installing vscodium as a .deb or as an .AppImage. Which one should I go for on a fresh installation of debian 10 x64? |
| 07:48.23 | somiaj | oxek: was the .deb made to be compadable with debian 10 (or was it made for ubuntu or some other debian distro) |
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| 07:48.45 | oxek | somiaj: no idea, doesn't specify on https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/releases |
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| 07:51.09 | somiaj | oxek: the .deb might be independent enough it can install in debian. I don't see enough information to know if it will be compadable with debian 10 or not. |
| 07:51.45 | somiaj | appimage should run and be compadable. I might be tempted to try the .deb, but if the dependenceies cannot be satsified in debian 10, don't try to force it. |
| 07:51.45 | oxek | somiaj: so if in doubt I shoud pick the AppImage version? |
| 07:52.35 | somiaj | https://gitlab.com/paulcarroty/vscodium-deb-rpm-repo -- looks like they even ahve a repo they say works in debian. But you have to decide how much you trust them to make a good .deb that is compadable with debian 10 or not. |
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| 07:55.15 | hesco1 | how would I proceed to investigate and resolve this disk full issue. df says disk full, but du does not believe it. I tend to trust du here. https://gist.github.com/hesco/ca805b2b80d4849bc711c6313f3c6178 |
| 07:55.27 | riverr | What would be good way to alert on ddos attacks? I have ratelimit rule which will drop packets so I thought something like getting the packet count from specific line in iptables and act based on how much packets were dropped |
| 07:55.30 | riverr | any other ideas? |
| 07:57.03 | hesco1 | riverr: I like to have the alert tell me where I have documented the resolution of the alert, a wiki url, ehat-have-you, if not actually tell me specifically what I need to do. |
| 07:57.54 | riverr | hesco1, I mean just to notify me in some way that ddos attack happened, as example it could execute bash script which sends me email etc |
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| 08:01.33 | BazookaTooth | riverr: tried #netfilter too? |
| 08:01.35 | hesco1 | riverr: you do not want to be woken up by an alert without a clear idea of what is required of you. If you just need awareness for the morning, send relevant excerpts of your logs as an email after some trigger, but the moment you want to create an email filter so you can ignore your alerts is the moment, perhaps, that the alert might better be turned off. |
| 08:01.57 | riverr | BazookaTooth, oh yeah i should probably ask there instead. There isnt as much people online atm though |
| 08:02.45 | riverr | hesco1, hmm yeah its okay I have everything on mute when im sleeping :D |
| 08:02.56 | riverr | but at the day time it would be nice to know asap if it happens |
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| 09:28.24 | L0aD1nG | i would like to ask if i need apache2 to run on start up by default on a personal computer... do i need it? |
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| 09:30.41 | ansimita | L0aD1nG: Depends on your use case. It's okay to disable it. |
| 09:31.10 | L0aD1nG | ansimita: its for http server right? |
| 09:31.23 | ansimita | yes |
| 09:31.52 | L0aD1nG | ansimita: does debian need it to run for some reason other than being a server? |
| 09:31.58 | ansimita | no |
| 09:32.06 | L0aD1nG | okay thanks |
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| 10:14.47 | L0aD1nG | if you pick "base system utilities" on installtion process is apache2 included?? I am trying to undestand why i have it installed.. |
| 10:14.58 | L0aD1nG | and "laptop" |
| 10:15.12 | L0aD1nG | also picked the "laptop" choice |
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| 10:16.20 | L0aD1nG | back in time when i fresh installed debian wheezy. |
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| 10:24.44 | r15 | hi #debian, i have / under btrfs without compression, is it possible to enable compression for some path for example /opt/ ? |
| 10:25.22 | r15 | ' /opt' is under / and / is using btfs (don't want to compress whole /) ? |
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| 10:31.06 | Antoine- | Hello, how can I tell if I am using the default configuration file of a package? |
| 10:31.24 | Antoine- | I'd like to know if my /etc/default/grub is the default or if I edited it at some point |
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