| 00:01.29 | trek00 | riceandbeans: see for more info https://sources.debian.org/src/apt-setup/1:0.156/debian/apt-cdrom-setup.templates/ |
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| 00:18.32 | MisterRichard | When I have a drive failing, the console shows up a lot of ata errors. How do I have these errors go to syslog instead of the console ? |
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| 00:22.23 | somiaj | MisterRichard: https://askubuntu.com/questions/97256/how-do-i-disable-messages-or-logging-from-printing-on-the-console-virtual-termin -- seems dmesg -n 1 wills uppress all messages |
| 00:22.41 | somiaj | or dmesg -D |
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| 00:24.17 | MisterRichard | somiaj, thx, ok so my plan is to output dmesg to a file ? |
| 00:24.48 | trek00 | MisterRichard: you should have these errors inside /var/log/kern.log |
| 00:25.46 | MisterRichard | trek00, hmm, no, they are not there |
| 00:26.02 | trek00 | syslog? |
| 00:26.11 | MisterRichard | trek00, no, nor messages |
| 00:27.19 | MisterRichard | they show up on the console |
| 00:27.21 | trek00 | MisterRichard: it should, do you have some rsyslogd configuration changed? |
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| 00:27.47 | MisterRichard | trek00, no, stock install |
| 00:28.06 | trek00 | MisterRichard: debian buster? |
| 00:28.15 | somiaj | what about journald? if you follow the instructions to make a pereistant journal you can have them between boots |
| 00:28.34 | somiaj | well due to systemd, things aren't logged the same as they were in the past, i'm not sure what logs get used by default anymore. |
| 00:28.37 | MisterRichard | trek00, yes buster |
| 00:29.11 | trek00 | MisterRichard: yep check if they are logged on journald, may be they are not redirected to syslog |
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| 00:29.37 | trek00 | MisterRichard: or grep -l "error message" /var/log/* |
| 00:30.37 | MisterRichard | trek00, no ata messages in any of the logs |
| 00:30.51 | trek00 | MisterRichard: then check with journalctl |
| 00:33.18 | MisterRichard | is dmesg still used ? |
| 00:33.44 | trek00 | dmesg is independent from the system logging |
| 00:34.17 | MisterRichard | my dmesg has a timestamp of 2015 |
| 00:34.36 | MisterRichard | doesn't dmesg get created every boot ? |
| 00:34.49 | trek00 | MisterRichard: it depends by systemd configuration |
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| 00:35.19 | trek00 | MisterRichard: check if those error messages are inside the journal at first: journalctl |
| 00:36.28 | MisterRichard | somiaj, trek00, ok thx, I will investigate journald |
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| 01:41.45 | jak2000 | how to update: Release: 8.11 to debian 9 or 10? |
| 01:42.51 | dvs | !release notes |
| 01:42.51 | dpkg | The release notes for Debian 10 "Buster" are at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ . See also <stretch->buster>, <buster install guide> |
| 01:43.14 | dvs | jak2000, but you need to go from 8->9 then 9->10 |
| 01:45.22 | lwp | dpkg, jessie->stretch |
| 01:45.22 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/OFVv . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch" and remove stable-specific lines like jessie-backports. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
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| 01:46.46 | lwp | jak2000: do what dpkg suggests first, which will update your debian 8.11 (jessie) to debian 9 (stretch) |
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| 01:49.07 | jak2000 | 1) /etc/apt/sources.list change "jessie" to "stretch" |
| 01:49.11 | jak2000 | https://paste.debian.net/1143466/ <-- its ok? |
| 01:50.17 | dvs | jak2000, we have no idea about line 4. It's better to comment it out. |
| 01:50.33 | jak2000 | ok before do the upgdate upgrade |
| 01:50.58 | lwp | yes, put a # at the start of line 4 |
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| 01:51.26 | jak2000 | 2) apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:51.48 | dvs | noope |
| 01:51.52 | jak2000 | no? |
| 01:52.05 | jak2000 | why not? |
| 01:52.12 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:52.58 | jak2000 | i run this: 2) apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade after that do: apt-get dist-upgrade right? |
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| 01:53.22 | dvs | you did the same step twice |
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| 01:53.51 | jak2000 | ahh ok |
| 01:54.09 | jak2000 | 2) apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and then: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade understand |
| 01:54.14 | jak2000 | how many time take this? |
| 01:54.39 | lwp | no, only do this part apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:54.40 | dvs | no, exactly the order I typed it |
| 01:55.07 | lwp | (you will need to be root, of course) |
| 01:55.12 | jak2000 | yes |
| 01:55.14 | jak2000 | break? |
| 01:55.17 | jak2000 | Ctrl+c ? |
| 01:55.37 | dvs | yes |
| 01:56.15 | jak2000 | ok: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:56.32 | dvs | that's correct |
| 01:56.54 | jak2000 | error: https://paste.debian.net/1143467/ |
| 01:57.37 | lwp | that is a hot mess. |
| 01:57.58 | dvs | Where is ppa.launchpad? Must be a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d |
| 01:59.13 | jak2000 | https://paste.debian.net/1143468/ |
| 02:00.02 | dvs | Oh gawd. Too many third party repos. |
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| 02:00.48 | lwp | jak2000, do you actually use anything from those ppa third party repositories ?? |
| 02:01.11 | jak2000 | not that i remember |
| 02:01.21 | jak2000 | webupd8team* not know |
| 02:01.28 | jak2000 | can we move? |
| 02:03.39 | lwp | I suggest: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d /etc/apt/hide-sources.list.d |
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| 02:24.57 | jak2000 | and then? |
| 02:25.16 | jak2000 | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:26.42 | jak2000 | https://paste.debian.net/1143471/ |
| 02:26.44 | jak2000 | error |
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| 02:35.33 | jak2000 | oo in redhat advice me, put sudo at the front on every command: |
| 02:35.44 | jak2000 | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 02:53.47 | jak2000 | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --->> i get this error before finishing |
| 02:54.18 | jak2000 | i am continue: Release: 8.11 |
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| 03:08.02 | lwp | sorry, what error before finishing ? |
| 03:08.48 | jak2000 | rerun the command and get this: https://pasteboard.co/J5Q1WqT.png |
| 03:08.50 | jak2000 | wich option choose? |
| 03:10.11 | lwp | i think should be safe to keep the local version, I would just choose OK |
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| 03:28.13 | happygilmoregent | can you edit bios from console? |
| 03:28.44 | happygilmoregent | with dmidecode? |
| 03:29.00 | sney | not usually. cmos doesn't really let you ... ok |
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| 03:43.10 | Ede|Popede | oh well. not even a minute. |
| 03:43.25 | Ede|Popede | but to the question, didn't they add any API with UEFI? |
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| 03:56.10 | jak2000 | i have now: Release: 9.12 |
| 03:56.30 | jak2000 | how to upgrade to 10? |
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| 03:57.51 | jak2000 | dpkg, stretch->10 |
| 03:57.51 | dpkg | jak2000: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 03:58.51 | ChiLLabiS | 10 is buster |
| 03:59.19 | jmcnaught | jak2000: just read the upgrade instructions in the release notes (and the what's new and important changes of course): https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/releasenotes |
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| 03:59.55 | jak2000 | dpkg, stretch->buster |
| 03:59.55 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/JFKc . TL;DR: In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "stretch" to "buster", remove lines like stretch-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade |
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| 04:04.03 | jak2000 | jmcnaught i do the replacement, stretch by buster, ... its ok? |
| 04:05.19 | jmcnaught | jak2000: why don't you read the release notes? Don't you want to know what has changed? |
| 04:06.18 | jmcnaught | there's also a section on issues to be aware of that you might want to check before you upgrade in case one of the warnings is applicable to you. |
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| 04:44.55 | riceandbeans | jmcnaught: the stuff you and trek00 referenced earlier fixed everything, so thank you, big progress because of that |
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