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| 00:10.47 | vlt | Thereâs a bug report already from 2017 LOL. I added ::ffff:c0a8:0106/128 to my allow file and now it works. |
| 00:11.16 | dvs | ???? |
| 00:11.25 | dvs | That's a weird address to allow |
| 00:12.38 | vlt | dvs: 192 is 0xc0, 168 is 0xa8, ... |
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| 00:27.30 | dvs | oh, ok |
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| 00:56.01 | ritalinona | ok so to try to make a long story short I need to copy some files within a fs, that I've chroot'd into, to a usb. But I cant run fdisk -l |
| 00:57.03 | ritalinona | oh and I dont have /dev/sd* |
| 00:57.34 | sney | sounds like you need to mount --bind /dev /target/dev before you chroot |
| 01:01.16 | ritalinona | oh ya, trying |
| 01:02.11 | wsky | metylophenidate |
| 01:02.31 | wsky | i've ended up in a hospital last year because doing it |
| 01:02.57 | ritalinona | so that gets me /dev but I still cant see anything with "fdisk -l" |
| 01:03.15 | somiaj | ritalinona: you could also mount the usb drive before chrooting into the fs, you acn also copy from outside the chroot too. |
| 01:03.31 | sney | if all you're doing with fdisk is trying to get the name of the usb drive, that will also show at the bottom of dmesg |
| 01:03.55 | somiaj | would /proc and/or /sys need to be mounted for this? |
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| 01:07.58 | ritalinona | oh duh why didnt I think of that, thanks somiaj |
| 01:09.10 | trek00 | vlt: nice catch :) |
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| 02:09.00 | anne232 | what is a way i can make an application open on boot on debian and derivatives? |
| 02:10.12 | WoC` | as in one app only ? |
| 02:10.52 | anne232 | I mean, lets say if I for instance wanted kodi to open after debian booted |
| 02:10.54 | somiaj | anne232: for a desktop, this is usually done by writing an .desktop file and putting it in an autostart folder. |
| 02:11.05 | somiaj | and this loads after you login to your system (not after boot). |
| 02:11.18 | anne232 | yeah thats what i mean |
| 02:11.28 | anne232 | this should work on raspbian too? |
| 02:11.32 | somiaj | depending on the desktop you use, there might be a configuration tool for this. |
| 02:11.44 | anne232 | I figured they were similar enough |
| 02:11.51 | somiaj | it is more dependent on your desktop, but you should not use this channel for raspbian support. |
| 02:12.01 | anne232 | I dont think they have one? |
| 02:12.08 | anne232 | I figured the question woudl apply broadly to debian based distros |
| 02:12.09 | somiaj | there is ##linux for general linux questions, which this coudl fall under |
| 02:12.12 | somiaj | !raspbian |
| 02:12.12 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian (or #raspberrypi) on irc.freenode.net for support. https://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 02:12.31 | somiaj | we support debian pure blends here, not derivatives, even if there are similarities |
| 02:12.52 | anne232 | Okay, I understand. Still, would the answer not apply to most debian based distros, including debian itself? |
| 02:13.01 | anne232 | like have the same solution, etc? |
| 02:13.40 | somiaj | Hence why I mentioned ##linux for general linux questions |
| 02:13.42 | WoC` | anne232, it depends on which desktop environment you use, |
| 02:13.52 | somiaj | !based on debian |
| 02:13.52 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 02:14.31 | ritalinona | aite well now I'm in deeper shit than where I started. Let me try to further explain the situation: installed debian, encrypted luks, with a usb boot key. Everything was fine and booting until I tried have the pass for /dev/sda5 be a keyfile which was encrypted. I have since undid all the usb boot key stuff but I'm still unable to boot and I'm out of ideas. I very much dont want to have to reinstall |
| 02:14.36 | somiaj | Part of what you get with a distro is its support community, the volunteers here choose to support debian pure blends. |
| 02:15.32 | anne232 | I understand. I love Debian itself too. This was just a specific question that I figured would apply to both. sorry |
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| 02:19.48 | somiaj | in this case, it is the de/wm support the question applies too more than the linux distro |
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| 02:20.10 | somiaj | but sometimes people assume something carries over, we spend a long time trying to figure out why our advise doesn't work, and it is due to some difference |
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| 02:21.06 | sponix | I'm sure #raspbian has a good set of folks to help with things there |
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| 03:37.06 | ChmEarl | anyone running xen-4.11.x with distro packages in deb10? please paste `xl info | grep virt_caps` |
| 03:37.35 | ChmEarl | looking for pv support on amd64 |
| 03:38.14 | sponix | ChmEarl: that in relation to Proxmox ? |
| 03:38.40 | ChmEarl | sponix, no |
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| 05:09.33 | seanicus | Hello, I'm trying to update from stretch to unstable. Is this what my sources.list should look like? https://pastebin.com/raw/pzBBgDna |
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| 05:11.26 | rudi_s | seanicus: No, you must upgrade to buster first. |
| 05:11.39 | rudi_s | Debian does not support skipping releases when upgrading. |
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| 05:11.53 | seanicus | Ahh, okay. I'll try that and report back |
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| 05:12.41 | rudi_s | !buster |
| 05:12.41 | dpkg | Buster is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 10, released 2019-07-06. "Buster" is Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster . Ask me about <install buster>, <release notes>, <stretch->buster>. <apt suite changed> |
| 05:12.50 | rudi_s | !stretch->buster |
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| 05:15.42 | seanicus | how did the bot know to privmsg me in particular? |
| 05:16.10 | seanicus | also crud, almost out of filespace |
| 05:17.06 | rudi_s | I told him to because the command didn't work here |
| 05:17.25 | seanicus | makes sense |
| 05:17.49 | seanicus | I'll probably have to put gparted on a usb and resize the partition |
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| 05:18.52 | seanicus | or honestly i might just completely reinstall debian and reset up all my programs from scratch |
| 05:19.04 | rudi_s | seanicus: You can resize partitions from the running system if you're careful. Of course that only works if there's space after the partition and you want to enlarge them. |
| 05:19.40 | rudi_s | (Online shrinking is not supported by most filesystems and moving partitions around won't work at all online.) |
| 05:20.21 | seanicus | well i have a terrabyte that's 30GB root /970ishgb home |
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| 05:20.46 | seanicus | This install really is pretty old. I think two years. |
| 05:21.01 | rudi_s | Most of my Debian installations are way older ;-) |
| 05:21.24 | rudi_s | But yeah, in that case you need to boot from an usb-stick to perform the resize. |
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| 05:21.47 | rudi_s | If you reinstall I can recommend using LVM and leaving some space free for future extensions. |
| 05:21.55 | seanicus | Are you saying I should revert back to my first linux distro ever, ubuntu 9.04? |
| 05:22.01 | seanicus | I still have that cd i think |
| 05:22.39 | rudi_s | Hehe, no. I just meant that 2 years is no sign of old age for a setup - if you keep it updated. |
| 05:22.54 | seanicus | I'm not exactly sure what lvm does. ive heard of it but never used it |
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| 05:23.03 | seanicus | its not a feature by default, though? |
| 05:23.51 | rudi_s | seanicus: It's basically a better way to handle partitions. You have a "pool of disk space" and can resize existing partitions at will (no need to leave space after a partition). |
| 05:24.30 | rudi_s | I think the current installer defaults to it, but it uses all disk space at installation which makes LVM less useful because then you cannot e.g. resize / when it gets full. |
| 05:24.57 | seanicus | well how can you resize when its already full? |
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| 05:25.08 | rudi_s | What I do is allocate all the disk to LVM but then only use some of it for / and /home. This way I have space to either resize / and /home. |
| 05:25.13 | rudi_s | You cannot. |
| 05:25.38 | seanicus | your sentence confused me |
| 05:25.43 | seanicus | but no matter, ill look into it |
| 05:26.10 | rudi_s | seanicus: I meant the physical layout of partitions on disk is irrelevant with LVM. |
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| 05:26.29 | seanicus | does lvm handle backups? |
| 05:26.39 | seanicus | i have three disks in this computer |
| 05:27.15 | SwedeMike | seanicus: https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm_snapshots ? |
| 05:27.37 | rudi_s | seanicus: Not really, you can use it to help with backups but you need extra tools. |
| 05:27.54 | rudi_s | And regular (non-thin) snapshots in LVM have a large performance penalty. |
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| 05:31.12 | xok | hello all... |
| 05:31.23 | xok | I want to install Debian on my Raspberry PI 4... |
| 05:32.01 | xok | I installed everything in a directory ( mounted a partition ) using debootstrap... |
| 05:32.11 | xok | but I am stuck with the boot loader... |
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| 05:32.39 | xok | how do I proceed, what should I do now to make my new debian boot in a PI 4 environment now?.. |
| 05:32.41 | sponix | xok: "Raspbian" not doing what you need ? |
| 05:32.57 | xok | sponix if it were - I wouldn't ask here... :-) |
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| 06:26.33 | warsoul | hello |
| 06:26.39 | warsoul | had a issue today |
| 06:26.49 | warsoul | open firefox my pc freeze and boot by itself |
| 06:26.59 | warsoul | got a pic with the error when was booting |
| 06:28.30 | Haohmaru | pics or it didn't happen |
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| 06:29.12 | warsoul | https://imgur.com/gallery/OPTLELu |
| 06:29.35 | warsoul | sorry wrong link |
| 06:29.38 | warsoul | https://imgur.com/gallery/0PTLELu |
| 06:30.34 | Haohmaru | eek o_O |
| 06:32.00 | fenris | its the same link |
| 06:32.30 | Haohmaru | fenris no |
| 06:32.44 | fenris | 0_0 i see |
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| 06:54.08 | warsoul | looks at fenris |
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| 06:54.45 | Haohmaru | did you try to websearch some of those error messages? |
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| 06:55.07 | Haohmaru | hasn't seen this kind of thing |
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| 06:56.46 | fenris | warsoul: im experiencing a apt-get update loading (before contact the internet) slowness like 1 hour |
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| 06:57.11 | fenris | so we have problems maybe due the eggdrops |
| 06:57.39 | fenris | try a live usb stick mount /dev/sdX1 /mnt ; chroot /mnt ; cp ... |
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| 06:58.26 | warsoul | o_O |
| 06:58.48 | fenris | i'll be force to reinstall too o_O |
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| 06:59.05 | warsoul | can't reinstall |
| 06:59.12 | fenris | you have no other pc |
| 06:59.20 | warsoul | i die if i loose my irc client lol |
| 06:59.22 | warsoul | and configs |
| 06:59.23 | warsoul | :P |
| 06:59.36 | fenris | google chroot live cd |
| 06:59.48 | fenris | recover your config! |
| 07:00.40 | fenris | https://www.turnkeylinux.org/docs/chroot-to-repair-system |
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| 07:01.30 | fenris | i either have only a vaio i3 from 2009 |
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| 07:17.33 | azidhaka | Hi, need an idea. How do i restart some services after openjdk is updated with apt update? |
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| 08:22.16 | iwkse | n_1-c_k: no that's not the case :\ I modified DataDir and I still get the same error |
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| 08:33.32 | jaggz | anyone have cutensor.h on their system? it's supposedly from nvidia's cuda, but I can't find what package it'd be in |
| 08:35.38 | ksk | ,file cutensor.h |
| 08:35.42 | judd | No packages in buster/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 08:35.49 | jaggz | it'd be from nvidia official |
| 08:35.52 | ksk | jaggz: not part of debian. |
| 08:35.54 | jaggz | not debian |
| 08:36.27 | jaggz | I already did a package search on debian's site |
| 08:36.43 | iwkse | jaggz: could be here https://developer.nvidia.com/cutensor |
| 08:37.15 | jaggz | iwkse, ooh, thanks. |
| 08:37.43 | iwkse | jaggz: np :) |
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| 08:54.56 | jaggz | yay |
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| 09:34.44 | grindhold | i recently ran into the problem that apt wants to write a new kernel image to /boot but cannot do so, due to no disk space left. is there a check broken? is there a new recommended size for the boot record? is there some kernel-image-rotation code broken? i now encountered the problem on a third independent system. boot partition is 237M and has been created by the debian installer in "use whole disk" mode |
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| 09:37.07 | diogenes_ | 237M is not enough for .boot. |
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| 09:37.46 | grindhold | diogenes_: what do you deem an appropriate size for /boot? |
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| 09:38.18 | diogenes_ | at least 700. |
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| 10:02.23 | ham5urg | I want to install debian-testing but one day the contents of testing will become stable AFAIK. Is there a good way to install testing and switch to future-stable by time they became equal? |
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| 10:03.53 | vlt | ham5urg: You could use the *name* of current testing. |
| 10:04.28 | ksk | you either use "testing" -> you upgrade to the next testing, when bullseye becomes stable |
| 10:04.40 | ksk | you use "bullseye" -> you stay on bullseye |
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| 10:07.31 | oxek | What is the recommended (supported?) way of scanning usb sticks for windows malware? Is it still clamav+clamtk or is there a more suitable tool for the job? |
| 10:07.41 | ham5urg | vlt, I understand. |
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| 10:28.04 | ham5urg | Are packages version(-numbers) freezed in testing? My question is due to security-updates, if it invokes sometimes new versions or won't. |
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| 10:41.18 | dob1 | is there any really simple program to draw some arrows on an image ? |
| 10:41.52 | ksk | dob1: google for "linux paint replacement"? :) |
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| 10:42.19 | ksk | ham5urg: no they are not. there is some mechanism to add "debian version" to "upstream versions" (epoch iirc?) |
| 10:42.27 | ksk | if the need arises. |
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| 10:43.39 | vlt | dob1: I'd use inkscape, gimp or check if xournal can use image files as background like it does with pdf. |
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| 11:09.05 | dob1 | ok none of these software has an "arrow" |
| 11:09.18 | dob1 | I tried several gpain, mtpaint, flameshot (but I just have a screenshot) |
| 11:09.20 | dob1 | gimp no |
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| 11:10.48 | SlowJimmy | what do you need to paint an arrow on an image for? |
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| 11:11.20 | dob1 | it's a screenshot (just taken), I want to indicate a part of it |
| 11:11.24 | Haohmaru | i think there should be arrow objects in libreoffice draw, altho that's akchually vector graphics |
| 11:11.38 | SlowJimmy | dob1 use the mighty gimp |
| 11:11.48 | dob1 | SlowJimmy, there is an arrow? |
| 11:12.03 | dob1 | not that I have to create an arrow |
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| 11:12.15 | SlowJimmy | https://www.maketecheasier.com/draw-arrows-in-gimp/ |
| 11:16.01 | themill | arrows in inkscape are trivial too |
| 11:16.28 | Haohmaru | inkscape makes me moar sad than libreoffice |
| 11:16.46 | Haohmaru | but probably yeah, again, vector graphics |
| 11:16.49 | SlowJimmy | what's wrong with liberal office Haohmaru |
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| 11:17.11 | Haohmaru | technically inkscape should be the first choice here but.. |
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| 11:17.38 | Haohmaru | SlowJimmy nothing, it's my general unfamiliarity with "office" programs |
| 11:17.57 | SlowJimmy | Haohmaru, why can't you just use vi? or even emacs? |
| 11:18.00 | Haohmaru | i've mostly suffered with Calc |
| 11:18.12 | Haohmaru | SlowJimmy what for? |
| 11:18.41 | SlowJimmy | literally anything at leat for vim and emacs you can do everything with them |
| 11:19.15 | Haohmaru | i'm doing many things on a comput0r, haven't needed to use those two programs so far |
| 11:19.40 | SlowJimmy | what software do you use when you type a letter? |
| 11:19.56 | Haohmaru | uh.. like.. email? |
| 11:20.14 | SlowJimmy | No like say if you cancel a subscription |
| 11:20.39 | Haohmaru | i don't even know wut this means |
| 11:21.10 | Haohmaru | for emails i use the browser (firefox), for real letters i use a pen |
| 11:21.28 | Haohmaru | altho i don't think i've akchually written a real letter |
| 11:21.34 | SlowJimmy | probably most use the browser these days |
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| 11:22.12 | Haohmaru | http://www.unige.ch/ses/sococ/cl/edoc/advice/pics/writer.arrows.png |
| 11:22.46 | Haohmaru | that's libreoffice write tho, but i think draw should have arrows too |
| 11:23.02 | SlowJimmy | Haohmaru, do you compile debian yourself? |
| 11:23.03 | Haohmaru | perhaps moar artsy ones |
| 11:23.36 | Haohmaru | o_O what for? |
| 11:23.56 | Haohmaru | no, i take it from debian.org |
| 11:24.04 | SlowJimmy | Haohmaru, I only used precompiled so far, and i have heard that if you compile it yourself it will be optimized for your specific system |
| 11:25.11 | Haohmaru | i'm on a core2quad at home, with 8GB ddr2 ram, it's "okay" for my purposes as-is |
| 11:26.03 | Haohmaru | got better things to do than draining a few more percents of "performance" out of it |
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| 11:27.21 | SlowJimmy | Haohmaru :D i am on a 2 GB pc that is 10+ years old :D |
| 11:27.56 | Haohmaru | at the job i'm CADing on a 2GB ram debian too |
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| 11:29.10 | Haohmaru | coding too |
| 11:29.51 | Haohmaru | the most difficult thing is the stupid websites that eat mountains of memory for nothing >:( |
| 11:30.02 | Haohmaru | because fancy |
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| 11:31.15 | Haohmaru | but that's a problem even with 8GB or more, the browser sooner or later sh*ts the pants |
| 11:31.42 | Haohmaru | and some dumb programs which i try to avoid at all costs |
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| 11:32.06 | Haohmaru | dob1 did you get your arrows? |
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| 11:34.47 | dob1 | after some tests I found the simpler solution is libreoffice draw, it has pre-build shapes |
| 11:35.09 | Haohmaru | yeah |
| 11:35.39 | dob1 | thanks for all the advices :) |
| 11:36.40 | Haohmaru | i usually use MSpaint (or similar, like KolourPaint) and draw intentionally crappy arrows to point out stuff |
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| 11:37.28 | dob1 | why crappy ? :) |
| 11:37.48 | Haohmaru | for the lolz |
| 11:37.59 | oxek | Where are filetype associations stored in debian? When I accidentally doubleclick an .exe file, it starts with "Open with Mono Runtime (Terminal)" and I want to disable that. |
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| 11:38.22 | Haohmaru | i think it depends on filemanager |
| 11:38.37 | Haohmaru | and/or this xdg thing |
| 11:38.53 | oxek | Thunar is the file manager |
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| 11:40.19 | Haohmaru | i'd try websearching "thunar file associations" |
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| 12:49.04 | quarterback | debian buster is taking a long time to load GDM desktop. I see a message that its loading gdp and after that the screen is blank with little hdd activity for half hour or so. |
| 12:49.11 | quarterback | gdm* |
| 12:49.35 | quarterback | I had run fsck on hdd partitions at boot before. |
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| 12:51.45 | diogenes_ | quarterback, do you have disk encryption? |
| 12:51.50 | quarterback | I think the gdm desktop didn't appear |
| 12:51.57 | quarterback | diogenes_, No, no encryption. |
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| 12:52.49 | quarterback | diogenes_, There is a issue with the smps because of which the hdd behaved erratically before like having errors for reading or writing data. |
| 12:53.18 | diogenes_ | quarterback, systemd-analyze blame (would give you a hint). |
| 12:53.36 | quarterback | diogenes_, How do I boot into command prompt? |
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| 12:54.25 | diogenes_ | quarterback, append this to the grub linux line: systemd.unit=multi-user.target |
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| 12:54.57 | quarterback | diogenes_, The screen becomes blank after displaying boot messages while loading gdm |
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| 12:56.23 | quarterback | diogenes_, I will try this.brb |
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| 13:01.28 | dionysus69 | hello digital jedies |
| 13:01.52 | dionysus69 | I am getting this error "You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced) \n Current password: su: Authentication token manipulation error" |
| 13:01.59 | ratrace | hello startrek fan. |
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| 13:03.27 | dionysus69 | I am doing automated scripting and want to run commands as specific user `/bin/su -c "some bash command" - user` |
| 13:03.38 | quarterback | dionysus69, Did that. It becomes quiet as before. |
| 13:04.00 | dionysus69 | quarterback: meaning? |
| 13:04.14 | quarterback | dionysus69, The screen is blank with a command prompt at top left. |
| 13:04.33 | dionysus69 | no I am dealing with a different situation |
| 13:04.33 | quarterback | dionysus69, There is some hdd activity every 30 seconds or so |
| 13:04.40 | dionysus69 | I am running a script on cloud vps setup |
| 13:05.17 | dionysus69 | so my problem is that it is asking for a password at a wrong time, is it possible for me to run some bash command with specific user and not get the password update prompt? |
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| 13:05.58 | quarterback | dionysus69, I had the same problem earlier when I did a update on the system. GDm used to take a few minutes to load preceded by a blank screen for about 2 minutes. |
| 13:06.10 | quarterback | after this, the problem fixed itself. |
| 13:06.11 | ratrace | quarterback: you're confusing dionysus69 with diogenes_ |
| 13:06.21 | quarterback | ratrace, Yes, thanks. |
| 13:06.29 | quarterback | diogenes_, Please see messages above. |
| 13:07.19 | quarterback | diogenes_, Should I let the system on for a few hours to see if actually boots into the desktop? |
| 13:07.29 | quarterback | if it* |
| 13:08.23 | diogenes_ | quarterback, you've got a command prompt so now all you need to do it to login and run: systemd-analyze blame |
| 13:08.32 | diogenes_ | and also: sudo iotop |
| 13:09.11 | quarterback | diogenes_, Okay, thanks |
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| 13:09.32 | quarterback | diogenes_, What would I see then? |
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| 13:10.19 | diogenes_ | quarterback, systemd-analyze blame < will show you what is the service that takes the longest boot time and sudo iotop <<< will show you the reads and writes to the disk. |
| 13:11.02 | quarterback | diogenes_, What would be a fix after that? |
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| 13:11.52 | diogenes_ | quarterback, to know the fix you first need to know the problem :) |
| 13:12.23 | quarterback | diogenes_, Thanks. brb |
| 13:12.33 | diogenes_ | no problem |
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| 13:15.28 | ratrace | dionysus69: sorry, was on the phone. you need to remove password expiration date for your user, if you don't want it . usermod -e <username> |
| 13:15.42 | ratrace | or for root if that's su complaining |
| 13:15.57 | dionysus69 | ok my situation is that I am doing an automated script |
| 13:16.13 | dionysus69 | just created user using cloud-init |
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| 13:16.33 | dionysus69 | so I am dealing with a first time user use, so that's why I am getting password prompt |
| 13:16.52 | dionysus69 | ratrace: will password expiration date help in my situation ? |
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| 13:18.35 | ratrace | dionysus69: well it looks like you might have a password expiration date and it's past due |
| 13:18.42 | quarterback | diogenes_, I did that. It seems systemd journal.flush is longest at 10.8 seconds. Next is /dev/sda1 |
| 13:19.09 | quarterback | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.35 | ratrace | dionysus69: you can also set up sudo for such tasks so you don't have to type all that verbose su thingy |
| 13:19.55 | quarterback | diogenes_, It seems this error occurred after an udpate of debian OS. |
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| 13:20.29 | diogenes_ | quarterback, you mean release update like from 9 to 10? |
| 13:20.38 | dionysus69 | ratrace: like this chage -E 2020-03-31 user |
| 13:20.52 | quarterback | diogenes_, No, security updates within debian |
| 13:20.52 | dionysus69 | any tips on how to get 2020-03-31 as today + 1 day? |
| 13:21.47 | quarterback | diogenes_, I saw this problem before but the system booted into desktop after 3/4 minutes. This time. It remains with a blank screen. |
| 13:22.21 | diogenes_ | quarterback, maybe try to reinstall gdm. |
| 13:22.31 | quarterback | diogenes_, How do I do that? |
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| 13:22.55 | quarterback | diogenes_, should I do apt-get remove gdm and then apt-get install gdm? |
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| 13:24.00 | diogenes_ | from that same command prompt run: sudo apt reinstall gdm |
| 13:24.09 | quarterback | I am in debian. |
| 13:24.30 | quarterback | Should I enter apt reinstall gdm as root? |
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| 13:24.49 | diogenes_ | yes, on my Debian i use root, you can use su. |
| 13:25.02 | quarterback | diogenes_, brb |
| 13:25.03 | diogenes_ | i mean i use suso* |
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| 13:26.02 | diogenes_ | ok gtg now, i bet someone here could help you further on, good luck! |
| 13:26.11 | k3tan | i have 5 drives, all are mounted in /mnt - in nautilus, 2 drives show up in the sidebar on nautilus, and 3 are shown in 'other locations' - why is this? |
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| 13:31.37 | quarterback | I reinstalled gdm3. Still I have the same problem |
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| 13:41.34 | silverballz | anyone know how to update the keys in /etc/ssh with something like 'ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_hosts_ecdsa_key -t ecdsa -b 521 -C 'commented' |
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| 13:44.06 | silverballz | https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/openssh-client/ssh-keygen.1.en.html |
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| 14:05.41 | ratrace | dionysus69: no. it's lower case -e , not -E . And you don't add a date if you want to remove it, so just `usermod -e <username>` |
| 14:06.27 | quarterback | I got a error unable to load libfreetype.so.6 after I executed startx |
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| 14:07.55 | quarterback | X server wont start as libfreetype.so.6 is missing. |
| 14:08.08 | quarterback | How do I fix this? |
| 14:08.54 | quarterback | This was the reason for long blank screen while loading gdm3 |
| 14:09.07 | ksk | ,file libfreetype.so.6 |
| 14:09.11 | judd | Search for libfreetype.so.6 in buster/amd64: libfreetype6: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6 |
| 14:09.32 | ksk | quarterback: do you have the package installed? If yes, why did you manually delete random files from your operating system? |
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| 14:09.37 | quarterback | The error seems similar to this: https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21468432-Ubuntu-Cannot-start-X-server-missing-libfreetype-so-6 |
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| 14:10.00 | quarterback | ksk, I didn't delete random files from the OS. It seems I have it |
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| 14:10.33 | ksk | Then I suggest sharing the actual error. |
| 14:10.53 | quarterback | I can't as I'm on terminal on the debian machine as X server wont start. |
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| 14:11.09 | ratrace | libfreetype6 is dependency to a ton of things xorg related adn it's impossible to have it uninstalled with xorg installed |
| 14:11.29 | ratrace | xserver-xorg for example, wouldn't install without it |
| 14:11.31 | quarterback | The home directory seems intact |
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| 14:11.59 | ksk | quarterback: but /home is the one place not imporant for this kind of question ;) |
| 14:12.27 | quarterback | ksk, How do I start X now after this error? |
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| 14:13.00 | ksk | quarterback: You did not provide us with an error message yet - as far as I know. |
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| 14:14.43 | ksk | (tools like pastebinit might be handy if you want to copy stuff from a text console to a no paste service) |
| 14:14.50 | quarterback | ksk, The error is this: /usr/bin/X11/X: error while loading shared libraries: libfreetype.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory giving up. |
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| 14:16.49 | ksk | quarterback: `ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6` |
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| 14:25.57 | quarterback | ksk, It may be that lot of files are corrupted. I may have to reinstall the OS |
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| 14:28.03 | ksk | that sounds reasonable! |
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| 14:28.28 | ratrace | might be wise to figure out what corrupted them, or else it'll just happen again |
| 14:28.31 | ksk | Maybe try not pasting commands to a root-shell before you have a firm understanding of what they do. |
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| 14:28.45 | ksk | (assuming its not a hardware failure here..) |
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| 14:31.05 | quarterback | ratrace, it seems a bad sata power supply corrupted the os install or some files in it. |
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| 14:43.12 | brutser | usually for audio on openbox/debian, i install pulseaudio, pnmixer, pavucontrols and that's it. however i get some errors in xsession-errors related to pnmixer/alsa: /build/pnmixer-s2Hxqg/pnmixer-0.7.2/src/alsa.c: 'default': Can't get playback dB range: Invalid argument -- is this a critical error and what can be done about it? |
| 14:44.15 | brutser | at the same time, pnmixer claims to work with alsa, but not pulseaudio (which i understand is a layer on top of alsa) - how would i just install alsa without pulseaudio on debian 10? and would this work out of the box? (the install i mentioned above, does work, except for the error message) ^ |
| 14:46.21 | f8e4 | a file /etc/db.yaml has '-rw------- 1 postgres sudo' now i login postgres and try to cat /etc/db.yaml and i get permission denied! |
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| 14:50.37 | ayekat | f8e4: how do you log in as postgres? |
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| 14:51.13 | f8e4 | user$ sudo login postgres |
| 14:52.23 | ayekat | `login`? |
| 14:52.56 | ayekat | f8e4: hmm... I've never switched users that way, but assuming it works - what is the output of `id`? |
| 14:53.24 | ayekat | (especially, does it say something like `uid=XXXX(postgres)`? |
| 14:53.30 | ayekat | ) |
| 14:53.47 | f8e4 | Access: (0600/-rw-------) Uid: ( 108/postgres) Gid: ( 27/ sudo) |
| 14:54.41 | ratrace | f8e4: so what's the output of `id` after you "sudo login"? |
| 14:55.04 | f8e4 | Last login: Mon May 4 14:43:01 UTC 2020 on pts/3 |
| 14:55.20 | ratrace | that's not output of `id` |
| 14:55.29 | ratrace | anotehr clue, `getfacl /etc/db.yaml` |
| 14:55.32 | f8e4 | oh: uid=108(postgres) gid=115(postgres) groups=115(postgres),27(sudo),114(ssl-cert) |
| 14:55.47 | ratrace | f8e4: why is your postgres user in teh sudo group?! |
| 14:57.12 | f8e4 | ratrace: just now: if postgres is in sudo it can read other files in the same dir which are also foo_user:sudo i think yes? |
| 14:57.23 | ratrace | but why |
| 14:57.27 | ksk | f8e4: yeah sure, and it can also become root and do anything :P |
| 14:57.32 | ayekat | an equally important question: why is the file owned by the sudo group? |
| 14:57.39 | ratrace | postgres user should be used for NOTHING else but running postgres database. |
| 14:58.09 | ayekat | in fact, no file should be owned by the sudo group - that group is reserved for grouping users together for setting sudo permissions |
| 14:58.18 | ratrace | sudo group should be used for NOTHING else but assigning users who may run `sudo` per default setup of sudoers that allows the %sudo group |
| 14:58.20 | f8e4 | ratrace i need to run a maintenance script and the owner of table is postgres, so the User=postgres ok, now the ExecStart=mybin reads the db.yaml file |
| 14:58.35 | f8e4 | db.yaml must be postgres accessible, but i will take out of sudo now |
| 14:58.43 | ratrace | f8e4: YouAreDoingItWrong(tm) |
| 14:58.52 | f8e4 | ratrace please help (tm) |
| 14:59.06 | ratrace | f8e4: please state the end goal and mind the !xy problem |
| 14:59.40 | f8e4 | f8e4 needs a systemd script binary to login to database as postgres |
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| 14:59.56 | ratrace | f8e4: login how? with pgsql? |
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| 15:00.30 | f8e4 | execstart=main.py <- reads db.yaml |
| 15:01.09 | ratrace | f8e4: that's the XY problem. what is the end goal here? whad does "login to database" mean? are you using the `psql` interface? what is the END goal here? |
| 15:01.12 | ratrace | !xy |
| 15:01.12 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
| 15:02.03 | f8e4 | create table as db user postgres end goal |
| 15:02.56 | ratrace | f8e4: excellent. psql -d <database> -U <username> -c "CREATE TABLE ....." does that suffice? |
| 15:03.36 | ratrace | f8e4: it will ask for <username>'s password. you can also export PGPASS env with the password, for automation. or use pg_hba properly and assign ANY user you want, peer or ident access to the DB. |
| 15:04.27 | ratrace | The "postgres" user is by default configured via pg_hba for peer access, so you can execute that as "postgres" user. |
| 15:04.54 | ratrace | so then all you need is psql -d database -c "CREATE TABLE ..." run as "postgres" user |
| 15:04.57 | f8e4 | ratrace too far, i have a script.py in systemd started reading db.yaml <- db.yaml |
| 15:05.13 | ratrace | f8e4: in which case the script will contain proper DSN for database connection |
| 15:05.20 | ratrace | (so it can be run as any user) |
| 15:06.21 | f8e4 | ratrace i tried to use peer access User=postgres <- thats why, but will User=user1 + db.yaml username=postgres |
| 15:06.32 | f8e4 | over local tcp |
| 15:06.53 | ratrace | you can still use the socket |
| 15:07.04 | ratrace | f8e4: what is in "db.yaml"? |
| 15:07.11 | f8e4 | mmh ah true, the dsn |
| 15:07.21 | ratrace | f8e4: correct, just skip the host= entry |
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| 15:08.38 | f8e4 | yeyeyey; regards groups: user1 can access user2 files in /etc/dir1 IF ONLY user2 file is user2:group1 AND user1 in group1 AND /etc/dir1 +x bit set, yes? (beside other ways) |
| 15:08.54 | ratrace | f8e4: and again, you don't need "postgres" user for peer access, you can configure any user you want, though in this case "postgres" user is okay for that role |
| 15:09.45 | ratrace | f8e4: /etc/dir1 must be owned by user or group that wants access, must have +x on usre or group, and the user trying the access must be that user OR belong to that group |
| 15:09.46 | f8e4 | ratrace there is the file permssion still ingering |
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| 15:12.05 | ratrace | f8e4: the pattern I prefer in cases like this would be like thefollowing: /etc/dir1 (and all contents) owned by root:postgres and chmoded 750 dir, and 640 files |
| 15:12.40 | ratrace | so root may alter, postgres may access and read, but not altre. I still have no idea what's in db.yaml, is it something your script is _reading_ or _writing_ to? |
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| 15:14.03 | f8e4 | read only the DSN is in there; if user1/user2 want a file1 in dir1<--belongs to user1 which group to have on dir1 ? |
| 15:14.59 | ratrace | f8e4: root:shared_group, chown 750 dirs, 640 files, usermod -a -G shared_group user1 user2 |
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| 15:16.30 | ratrace | otherwise user1 accessing files belonging to user2 (or vice versa) is a bad pattern. shared access must go through shared group ownership, with optionally g+w sticky on the dir |
| 15:16.58 | ratrace | (or make an even bigger, less readable mess, by using ACLs) |
| 15:17.31 | flyboy77 | hi I'm losing my mind trying to install google chrome on xcfe desktop, I googled all over and keep running into problems if it's not one thing it's another, I think I'm close though, now I'm stuck on apt-key not working |
| 15:17.46 | flyboy77 | E: gnupg, gnupg2 and gnupg1 do not seem to be installed, but one of them is required for this operation |
| 15:17.59 | f8e4 | ratrace ok thank you, i was missing the +x bit on a folder |
| 15:18.33 | flyboy77 | ~# wget -q -O - https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add - |
| 15:18.43 | flyboy77 | throws erros |
| 15:18.45 | flyboy77 | errors |
| 15:19.25 | flyboy77 | I tried adding the google chrome repository to sources and can't get that source signed to allow apt-update to work |
| 15:19.46 | ratrace | flyboy77: do you have the package "gpg" installed? |
| 15:20.16 | flyboy77 | just installed debian yesterday, and looked for those packages to install won't allow that either? |
| 15:20.45 | ratrace | flyboy77: sorry, I'm not parsing your sentence after comma |
| 15:20.56 | flyboy77 | apt-get update && apt-get install -y gnupgHit:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InReleaseReading package lists... DoneReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency tree Reading state information... DonePackage gnupg is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, |
| 15:20.57 | flyboy77 | has been obsoleted, oris only available from another sourceE: Package 'gnupg' has no installation candidate |
| 15:21.22 | ratrace | flyboy77: "gpg" not "gnupg" |
| 15:21.28 | themill | (a) paste.debian.net (b) fix your sources.list |
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| 15:24.21 | flyboy77 | https://pastebin.pl/view/a2310496 |
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| 15:24.36 | ratrace | flyboy77: "gpg" not "gnupg" |
| 15:24.46 | flyboy77 | ok I try |
| 15:25.16 | themill | gnupg exists too; there's no mirror in the sources.list |
| 15:25.23 | themill | !buster sources.list |
| 15:25.23 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Buster" has the lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main", and optionally "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main". See <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <buster/updates> <buster-updates> and "man sources.list". |
| 15:25.50 | flyboy77 | https://pastebin.pl/view/56518301 |
| 15:26.30 | ratrace | flyboy77: right, then what themill said |
| 15:26.40 | flyboy77 | deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates main |
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| 15:27.01 | flyboy77 | https://pastebin.pl/view/aca465cf |
| 15:27.03 | ratrace | flyboy77: you're missing two more |
| 15:27.26 | flyboy77 | ok I will try adding those sources |
| 15:27.49 | ratrace | don't forget `apt update` after you add them |
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| 15:28.53 | ratrace | the "Brave" browser AD on pastebin.pl, listing "AD block" as feature, is triple hilarious.... |
| 15:29.00 | flyboy77 | can you pastebin exactly what should go in sources.list thx |
| 15:29.26 | themill | flyboy77: what dpkg just said |
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| 15:41.43 | flyboy77 | ok looks like it's progressing thanks, this is so strange as it was a fresh clean install and I remember during setup adding my local country's repository etc and only change I made was adding the google chrome one and then things we're working right at all, so I think something might be broken with the installer for debian as this shouldn't be |
| 15:41.43 | flyboy77 | that hard and really google chrome should be addded or at least chromimum vs firefox |
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| 15:42.58 | flyboy77 | But I'm sorta getting creeped out anymore by google, maybe using something other then chrome browser and just finding alternatives to their products is the way to go, |
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| 15:44.02 | f8e4 | flyboy77 chromium is awesome and has spying features disabled |
| 15:44.08 | f8e4 | the codebase is brillinat |
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| 15:46.40 | tomreyn | you read all of it? |
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| 15:47.37 | tomreyn | i guess this would take a while. |
| 15:47.50 | flyboy77 | will try chromium again, I used it before for a bit then forgot about it |
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| 15:50.54 | flyboy77 | this is working but https://pastebin.pl/view/0f8bcd72 |
| 15:53.10 | flyboy77 | https://pastebin.pl/view/769b2606 |
| 15:53.46 | flyboy77 | seems to throw that after adding the google chrome repository |
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| 15:54.39 | brutser | usually for audio on openbox/debian, i install pulseaudio, pnmixer, pavucontrols and that's it. however i get some errors in xsession-errors related to pnmixer/alsa: /build/pnmixer-s2Hxqg/pnmixer-0.7.2/src/alsa.c: 'default': Can't get playback dB range: Invalid argument -- is this a critical error and what can be done about it? |
| 15:54.43 | brutser | at the same time, pnmixer claims to work with alsa, but not pulseaudio (which i understand is a layer on top of alsa) - how would i just install alsa without pulseaudio on debian 10? and would this work out of the box? (the install i mentioned above, does work, except for the error message) ^ |
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| 16:14.12 | flyboy77 | thanks for the help guys, got chrome working |
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| 16:36.27 | f8e4 | does bash: (failed reverse-i-search) foo*bar <- supported? |
| 16:38.34 | medard | Hello. Is there a free trusted timestamp issuer? |
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| 16:49.03 | tomreyn | f8e4: i think bash interactive history search only does substring matching if that's what you're asking |
| 16:50.04 | tomreyn | medard: we can't know whom you (not) trust. pool.ntp.org usually works, if you're talknig about ntp. |
| 16:52.05 | medard | tomreyn, I mean timestamp as in document validation |
| 16:53.25 | f8e4 | tomreyn ah, how to do that? |
| 16:53.48 | f8e4 | eg search for two keywords: foo_bar.servicelwiejfwliefj <- foo*bar not foo*foo.service |
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| 16:54.37 | tomreyn | f8e4: i'm not aware of searching for more than a single substring match at a time |
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| 16:54.45 | tomreyn | *a method of |
| 16:54.52 | f8e4 | can i select the numer in history somehow |
| 16:55.02 | f8e4 | eg run 123 again |
| 16:55.10 | tomreyn | f8e4: try #bash, they'll know better than i do |
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| 16:56.27 | tomreyn | medard: which software on debian needs this? |
| 16:58.31 | tomreyn | actually i guess any PKI signature provides a timestamp certification. |
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| 16:59.41 | tomreyn | medard: i'd still be interested on how you're planning to use it |
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| 17:08.43 | medard | tomreyn, adobe reader allows you to sign and timestamp .pdf document |
| 17:09.47 | tomreyn | oh does it? i was thinking only their product for producing pdf's does (forgot the name) |
| 17:09.55 | tomreyn | anyways, one of those may work https://gist.github.com/Manouchehri/fd754e402d98430243455713efada710 |
| 17:10.06 | Manouchehri | oh hey |
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| 17:10.21 | tomreyn | :) |
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| 17:10.38 | Manouchehri | yeah, I use those for signing PDFs with timestamps. |
| 17:10.41 | medard | tomreyn, yeah I stomped across that but my boss is worried that these free providers may end their bussiness abruptly |
| 17:10.56 | medard | but i guess timestamp.apple.com is pretty safe |
| 17:11.00 | medard | for example |
| 17:11.03 | Manouchehri | medard: digicert isn't a small provider |
| 17:11.22 | Manouchehri | also, even if they end their service, the signatures are still valid. |
| 17:11.24 | tomreyn | maybe your boss should consider buying the service if worried about the SLA of free services ;) |
| 17:11.37 | medard | nah he is too much of a jew |
| 17:11.55 | medard | thanks though |
| 17:12.10 | tomreyn | uh i'm not into semitism |
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| 17:12.24 | tomreyn | *anti-semitism |
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| 17:12.45 | Manouchehri | medard: digicert uses this service for their paid customers too, so it's not going anywhere. |
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| 17:13.06 | Manouchehri | entrust is pretty big too |
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| 17:13.23 | Manouchehri | but yeah, there's no problem if these free providers end service. The CAs are still valid. |
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| 17:14.04 | Manouchehri | like symantec ended their service, but those signatures are still valid. |
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| 17:15.43 | Manouchehri | tomreyn: another really cool use is that you can use jarsigner to timestamp a zip file! |
| 17:16.14 | Manouchehri | https://gist.github.com/Manouchehri/d0ba772aa3df90e63b3fcc26dd7ba67d |
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| 17:17.50 | Manouchehri | I used to timestamp my homework/assignment zip files in case the uni submission portal failed |
| 17:18.49 | tomreyn | i see how this could be useful |
| 17:19.00 | tomreyn | does anyone check those timestamps, though? |
| 17:19.08 | tomreyn | or anything |
| 17:19.17 | tomreyn | Manouchehri: ^ |
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| 17:19.35 | Manouchehri | you'd have to tell them :p |
| 17:19.51 | Manouchehri | but would be useful if there was ever a claim that something wasn't done on time |
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| 17:27.07 | tomreyn | this reminds me a bit of rubber hose security |
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| 17:28.38 | Manouchehri | tomreyn: it's just assertion |
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| 18:26.17 | indibart | Hi all! I need to remount a disk at a new mountpoint but I can't wrap my head around it. Can somebody help me please? |
| 18:26.45 | greycat | do you want it to be mounted in *both* places, or only the new place? |
| 18:29.24 | indibart | Well I have the disk mounted on /home/alice but I should have mounted it at /home because now /home/bob isn't on that disk. So how do I remount it from /home/alice to /home without loosing the data at /home/bob |
| 18:30.53 | greycat | 1) Stop every process running in any part of /home. 2) Unmount /home/alice. 3) mv /home /home.old; mkdir /home 4) Mount the disk on (new) /home. 5) Rsync or cp -a from /home.old into the (new) /home. |
| 18:30.55 | lwp | did you write something to /home/bob while nothing was mounted at /home ?? |
| 18:31.25 | greycat | 6) Delete /home.old. |
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| 18:31.46 | lwp | yes, just follow greycat advice |
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| 18:32.17 | soft_concrete | wouldn't they also want to move the contents of the disk into a folder on the disk called alice |
| 18:32.28 | soft_concrete | so that Alice's files aren't in /home itself |
| 18:32.33 | greycat | oh, good point |
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| 18:33.37 | greycat | Make that step 1.5. |
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| 18:34.27 | phogg | seems like you could also solve this with overlayfs if you need to avoid halting everything to do the swap |
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| 18:43.46 | indibart | Oh thanks! One more question: how do I stop all processes running on /home? never had to do that. |
| 18:44.26 | greycat | It's strongly probable that you would need/want to reboot the system in single-user mode. |
| 18:45.04 | greycat | but if you have *good* control and confidence in your skills, you could just log every user out, stop cron and email and so on, and unmount by hand |
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| 18:50.29 | indibart | hm... I think single-user mode isn't on the table because it's a headless rpi. As far as I know single-user isn't possible via ssh. Or am I wrong? |
| 18:50.56 | greycat | Then you do it the hard way. You *did* enable direct root ssh logins, right? |
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| 19:21.01 | d1g1ta1 | I'm trying to create a USB flash drive to install Debian. Tried roofus and unetbootin but it will not boot. |
| 19:22.19 | d1g1ta1 | The device shows up on the BIOS boot menu but says No operating system |
| 19:24.28 | sney | the debian iso is a hybrid image, all you need to do is write it directly to the usb drive |
| 19:24.47 | sney | rufus and unetbootin are known to mangle the image and break it. rufus has a dd mode that works, or there's win32diskimager |
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| 19:25.01 | sney | !win32diskimager |
| 19:25.01 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 19:25.25 | indibart | @greycat: yes I did, thanks. Trying the hard way as we text... fingers crossed |
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| 19:37.34 | pileofstraw | update to my 300-machines locking up problem: |
| 19:37.56 | pileofstraw | firmware-misc-nonfree did not help and intel-microcode did not help. still seeing lockups. I am officially out of ideas on what to even attempt, now. |
| 19:38.34 | sney | these are embedded machines, right? how does the lockup manifest exactly? |
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| 19:39.38 | jhutchins | ,v xfce4 |
| 19:39.39 | judd | Package: xfce4 on amd64 -- jessie: 4.10.1; stretch: 4.12.3; buster: 4.12.5; bullseye: 4.14; sid: 4.14 |
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| 19:42.38 | oxek | I am on debian xfce, and Firefox does not have an icon when I launch it and it's tab appears on the panel. Is that to be expected? |
| 19:44.06 | pileofstraw | sney: X is running and everything on the screen is frozen, the units drop completely offline. |
| 19:44.25 | pileofstraw | further googling, my problem appears to be exactly the same as this thread: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/looking-for-help-with-system-freezing-randomly-intel-skylake-kabylake-4175642362/ |
| 19:44.31 | pileofstraw | except obviously in Debian Buster. |
| 19:45.23 | diogenes_ | oxek, that's not to be expected. |
| 19:46.51 | pileofstraw | so i may just have to assume that this bug is impossible to fix and see if I can get the watchdog working properly to hard reset the systems when this happens |
| 19:46.56 | pileofstraw | that is depressing |
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| 19:48.46 | oxek | diogenes_: I am trying to describe this issue in such a way that a search engine would provide helpful results but I am failing. |
| 19:49.06 | oxek | this is a fresh debian stable installation, installed using netinst cd |
| 19:49.36 | oxek | firefox has an icon in the application menu, and has an icon in its title bar, but does not have an icon on the panel |
| 19:49.56 | oxek | it just has this generic-looking icon instead and then the word "Firefox" |
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| 19:50.22 | diogenes_ | pileofstraw, i've had some problems with intel hardware too, i used to have random lockups and even random shutdowns, added these 2 params in /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= "processor.max_cstate=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2" and all is well now. |
| 19:51.49 | pileofstraw | So that we had to do with the Broadwell architecture |
| 19:51.56 | pileofstraw | Our J1900 CPUs suffered from that. |
| 19:52.10 | pileofstraw | I could try but this thread mentions that the cstate bugfix didn't help. |
| 19:52.15 | pileofstraw | Maybe worth trying anyway |
| 19:52.19 | sney | pileofstraw: since you mentioned intel-microcode I guess these are x86. all of the digital signage I've dealt with has been arm, so I might not have a clue, but: a) how's your power supply? and 2) is the lockup predictable on a timer? the latter can indicate network tomfoolery |
| 19:53.00 | diogenes_ | oxek, not sure about netinst, i've never done a netinst but the live iso is ok, |
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| 19:53.06 | pileofstraw | Power supply is excellent, and the lockup is 100% unpredictable. |
| 19:53.15 | pileofstraw | Across 300 deployed machines we see 1-3 lockups per day, roughly. |
| 19:54.40 | sney | and it's not the same 1-3 machines every time? |
| 19:54.55 | pileofstraw | A random selection. |
| 19:55.07 | sney | well, that's annoying |
| 19:55.19 | pileofstraw | It's been pretty much the bane of my job for 3 weeks now. |
| 19:55.25 | pileofstraw | It's also impossible to reproduce on my bench |
| 19:55.26 | pileofstraw | so far |
| 19:55.45 | d1g1ta1 | sney: Better. It starts booting, but then it errors out "Failed to load COM32 file vesamenu.c32" |
| 19:55.49 | sney | was there a debian version/kernel that worked or has it been like this as long as you've had them |
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| 19:56.18 | sney | d1g1ta1: sounds like a corrupt download, try it again |
| 19:57.18 | annadane | https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-verify-an-authenticity-of-downloaded-debian-iso-images |
| 19:58.13 | d1g1ta1 | I saw this error in a bug report, but no resolution was listed.https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=943878 |
| 19:58.14 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/943878 in syslinux-common (open): «syslinux: should provide an API to query/install modules»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2019-10-30; last modified: 2019-10-31. |
| 19:58.35 | annadane | (except the checksum files are found by truncating part of the url you download from which isn't obvious at all, so if you go to debian.org/debian-isos-lol/debian-netinst.iso (not a real url, just as an example) you'd have to cut off the debian-netinst.iso part) |
| 19:59.04 | annadane | (debian needs to be better at this) |
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| 20:00.32 | annadane | (also note how i didn't link an official debian page for iso verification instructions, debian needs to be better at *that* too; it exists, but it's not very noob-friendly) |
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| 20:03.32 | annadane | wants to create a quickstart debian guide at some stage for how to download stuff, where stuff is, where the checksums are etc |
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| 20:06.51 | jhutchins | annadane: I'm sure that info is out there somewhere, possibly a bit scattered. The challenge is maintaining it. |
| 20:09.14 | jhutchins | pileofstraw: Is there any manufacturer support available/ |
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| 20:09.17 | jhutchins | ? |
| 20:16.01 | lwp | d1g1ta1, if the image is OK, we should also ask exactly what image you are trying to boot there ? |
| 20:16.26 | lwp | d1g1ta1, I mean, if the image checksum is OK, .... |
| 20:17.07 | mzajc | is there any way to restrict a user's ability to list currently running processes? |
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| 20:17.49 | jhutchins | mzajc: Why? |
| 20:17.56 | mzajc | I have reasons |
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| 20:18.28 | jhutchins | mzajc: Trying to hide your botnet malware? |
| 20:18.38 | mzajc | my what? |
| 20:18.44 | mzajc | no, this is on my machine |
| 20:18.49 | jhutchins | mzajc: ... or your keylogger? |
| 20:18.53 | mzajc | sigh |
| 20:19.08 | mzajc | alright, I'm trying to sandbox a program I don't really trust that much |
| 20:19.34 | greycat | mzajc: you can look at the hidepid option in proc(5), but really, you are either attempting security-by-obscurity, or you are attempting to band-aid around some dumb-ass shell script that embeds secrets in args |
| 20:19.35 | mzajc | doesn't have to be highest security, but I just don't want it to be able to do some stuff |
| 20:20.06 | mzajc | no, I think you understood me wrong |
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| 20:20.13 | mzajc | I'm not trying to hide a process |
| 20:20.19 | mzajc | I'm trying to hide processes from a user |
| 20:20.44 | jhutchins | mzajc: How does that user access the system? |
| 20:20.49 | greycat | Can you run it in a chroot or container without /proc available? |
| 20:21.01 | mzajc | I was thinking about chroot, yes |
| 20:21.05 | mzajc | would it do the trick? |
| 20:21.27 | greycat | (but really, look at hidepid in proc(5) for educational purposes if nothing else) |
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| 20:22.24 | mzajc | greycat: again, that's not what I'm looking for. I would have to do that for all processes to achieve what I want |
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| 20:22.37 | greycat | ... |
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| 20:22.50 | greycat | DO YOU THINK THAT hidepid HIDES ONE PROCESS |
| 20:23.20 | mzajc | I see, assumed that from the name |
| 20:23.27 | d1g1ta1 | lwp: first I tried LiveCD ISO, now I'm trying Small ISO 10.3 |
| 20:23.33 | mzajc | I guess I'll be doing that + sudo, then |
| 20:24.52 | lwp | d1g1ta1, please tell the exact image URL, there are many, many live CD and I never heard of "Small" ISO |
| 20:25.26 | d1g1ta1 | Currently downloading https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 20:26.08 | d1g1ta1 | Previous error came from https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
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| 20:26.33 | lwp | d1g1ta1, from you error, I thought you are one some kind of 32bit system there.... what hardware are you booting on ? |
| 20:26.48 | d1g1ta1 | 64 bit Dell |
| 20:28.02 | lwp | OK then. that netinst iso is pretty good. you may need firmware for some of your devices though, not all firmware is in that image. |
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| 20:29.06 | d1g1ta1 | Is there an image that has the firmware that will fit on a 4GB USB key? How do I obtain the firmware if not? |
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| 20:29.27 | greycat | !firmware images |
| 20:29.27 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 20:34.44 | lwp | d1g1ta1, if you must use rufus to write the USB, make sure to use the DD mode. Also, if you haven't seen it, take a look at this install manual: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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| 20:42.32 | d1g1ta1 | lwp: I'm using win32diskimager now. I noticed the key has a UEFI partition but the computer is not UEFI -- will that be a problem? |
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| 20:42.49 | JustTheDoctor | Quick Question, are there any highly skilled Linux (ubuntu/debian) administrators available? i need a hand trying to get the money i am owed out of the work i've done by doing a remote backup and locking down a server please private message me if you maybe able to help and i will do |
| 20:43.06 | JustTheDoctor | what i can to repay.. |
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| 20:43.40 | pileofstraw | sney: we started with Stretch from date of first purchase and encountered a different horrible crashing scenario |
| 20:43.58 | Wulf | JustTheDoctor: get a lawyer. |
| 20:44.19 | pileofstraw | sney: outlined here https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/566141/intermittent-lockup-right-as-kernel-loads-on-debian-hours-to-reproduce |
| 20:44.24 | pileofstraw | This was fixed by updating to Buster in-field. |
| 20:44.30 | d1g1ta1 | lwp: I also noticed I can delete the second partition but not the first (UEFI) |
| 20:45.05 | pileofstraw | jhutchins: they are nice enough to inform me that they only officially support Ubuntu not Debian. |
| 20:45.44 | sney | ubuntu often ships a newer kernel than debian does, have you tried the 5.x kernel in buster-backports? |
| 20:46.58 | d1g1ta1 | lwp: well, not with the gui, but diskpart took it out. |
| 20:47.43 | lwp | d1g1ta1, don't delete anything. the .iso image is hybrid, will work on uefi or gpt. don't change it at all |
| 20:49.05 | d1g1ta1 | lwp: I'm just wiping the usb key before making the new image |
| 20:49.19 | Acheron | newer is not always better, Ubuntu has been known to release kernels with regressions |
| 20:49.45 | Acheron | the latest are a couple Intel GPU issues |
| 20:50.03 | pileofstraw | sney: honestly, I could. But with 300 machines I would dearly love to have ANY idea whether there is a hope of this being fixed with a newer kernel |
| 20:50.11 | lwp | d1g1ta1, OK, also not really necessary, but not harmful. the debian iso image is made to be copied onto the naked USB, not onto just a partition |
| 20:50.18 | pileofstraw | before I update them all and discover its just still happening. I just want to know what could possibly be causing this. |
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| 20:50.26 | sney | Acheron: newer is not always better, but in this specific support scenario it might help not crash the systems in question. thank you for your attention to detail? |
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| 20:51.11 | sney | pileofstraw: do you have any kind of centralized monitoring on these systems that could be updated to include crash logs? |
| 20:51.33 | sney | assuming the kernel is panicking at all, that is |
| 20:51.53 | pileofstraw | sney: no crash logs of any kind are generated. |
| 20:52.14 | sney | no crash logs of any kind are generated ever by default, it's something that needs to be enabled |
| 20:52.54 | joepublic | how demanding, curious, is your application on the GPU acceleration? |
| 20:53.37 | joepublic | pileofstraw ^^ |
| 20:53.56 | Gerowen | I'm using a LUKS encrypted external drive as an external/offsite backup drive. I've got it mounted, but when I'm done with it, what's the proper method to remove it from the system. I get that I need to umount the path its mounted to, but what about the mapper file that is pointing at it? What do I do with that? |
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| 20:55.30 | pileofstraw | sney: How could I verify whether this is enabled? I don't want to assume that it is. |
| 20:55.48 | pileofstraw | joepublic: not much. running stills and videos in chromium. |
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| 20:56.21 | joepublic | it just seems that blacklisting i915 and letting vesa/framebuffer take over would neatly eliminate any i915 problems |
| 20:56.51 | sney | pileofstraw: well, kdump-tools would need to be installed and set up |
| 20:57.02 | pileofstraw | was just reading about kdump-tools |
| 20:57.21 | pileofstraw | yeah for sure we do not have that set up. until this moment I had thought that crashes would show up in files within /var/log by default. |
| 20:57.55 | sney | service crashes will, but not the kernel |
| 20:59.08 | pileofstraw | joepublic: that is an interesting idea, if I cannot find the cause via crashdumps I certainly will consider running that as a test. |
| 20:59.22 | dionysus69 | thanks ratrace, I think I got it :) |
| 20:59.51 | pileofstraw | my 3 avenues are: install kdump-tools on 300 machines and try to use it without blasting through all my disk space. get the watchdog working properly to mitigate this. investigate i915 kernel module bypass. |
| 21:00.14 | joepublic | I don't envy your position |
| 21:01.32 | pileofstraw | even if I manage to not blow through the ssds and get a crashed kernel via kdump-tools I don't think I have enough alcohol in my apartment to debug a kernel |
| 21:01.56 | sney | it'll usually be pretty easy to parse the log for the offending module |
| 21:02.03 | pileofstraw | i will start with the watchdog plan to staunch the bleeding. |
| 21:02.10 | sney | and it won't log anything unless there's a crash |
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| 21:03.09 | pileofstraw | I don't know if I can assume it is a kernel crash, all I know is its a full lock with nothing in the logs and the networking dies |
| 21:03.16 | pileofstraw | Maybe that's enough to definitively say the kernel has crashed |
| 21:04.15 | pileofstraw | it would be so lovely if I could simply reproduce this on my bench |
| 21:04.27 | pileofstraw | thank you for your help! |
| 21:05.00 | sney | np |
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| 21:18.22 | warsoul | https://imgur.com/gallery/0PTLELu |
| 21:18.31 | warsoul | someone knows what is the issue? |
| 21:18.46 | warsoul | my pc reboots by itself sometimes |
| 21:18.56 | warsoul | when im using chrome or firefox |
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| 21:19.58 | sponix2ipfw | warsoul: you look familiar |
| 21:20.25 | warsoul | yeah :P |
| 21:20.28 | sponix2ipfw | breaks out the Magic 8-ball |
| 21:20.30 | warsoul | im always here |
| 21:20.46 | trek00 | warsoul: mce errors should be related to hardware |
| 21:20.47 | sponix2ipfw | warsoul: It is a laptop, having heat issues, and you need to clean it out |
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| 21:21.49 | oxek | when I see this package only exists for buster but not bullseye, does it mean it is deprecated? |
| 21:21.51 | oxek | ,dhex |
| 21:22.23 | greycat | oxek: what package? |
| 21:22.28 | oxek | dhex |
| 21:22.33 | greycat | ,v dhex |
| 21:22.34 | judd | Package: dhex on amd64 -- jessie: 0.68-2; stretch: 0.68-2+b2; buster: 0.69-1; sid: 0.69-1 |
| 21:22.47 | greycat | OK, next step is to ask the tracker... |
| 21:22.56 | sponix2ipfw | warsoul: get the tear down instructions and some fresh thermal paste. Tear it down cleaning everything especially the heat sink(s), apply fresh paste (MX4 or similar), and put it back together |
| 21:23.07 | oxek | I am happy to switch to a better (or supported) tool if there is one |
| 21:23.11 | greycat | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dhex |
| 21:23.26 | oxek | just looking for a way of hex-comparing two files on commandline and stepping through differences |
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| 21:23.33 | greycat | Removed from testing a month ago -- see the URL for details. |
| 21:23.58 | warsoul | sponix2ipfw is a pc |
| 21:24.01 | warsoul | 5 months old |
| 21:24.07 | oxek | greycat: thank you. I see the tracker.debian.org is useful, I will remember it |
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| 21:25.16 | trek00 | warsoul: do you have plugged the ram yourself may be? |
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| 21:25.32 | warsoul | trek00 im going to check on that |
| 21:25.43 | warsoul | could be the ram? |
| 21:26.15 | trek00 | warsoul: i don't know, there is something with the hardware, but i really don't know where to start |
| 21:26.25 | warsoul | ok |
| 21:26.32 | trek00 | warsoul: may be just heating issues |
| 21:26.47 | warsoul | i have really good cooling system |
| 21:26.50 | trek00 | warsoul: or something not plugged right |
| 21:26.57 | warsoul | ok |
| 21:27.18 | warsoul | i want to install the pc info/ram/temperature all that |
| 21:27.21 | warsoul | in my desktop |
| 21:27.27 | warsoul | ive seen this on pictures |
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| 21:28.38 | trek00 | warsoul: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-check_exception#Possible_causes |
| 21:31.33 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: cool |
| 21:32.08 | trek00 | it seems a well written paragraph :) |
| 21:32.28 | sponix2ipfw | warsoul: there is "memtest" you could run. Could also re-seat the ram, processor, gpu and others in their slots. Then doing their power also |
| 21:32.38 | sponix2ipfw | "the power also" |
| 21:33.15 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: you have an experience with tracking down cpu races ? |
| 21:33.56 | trek00 | sponix2ipfw: nope, i'm not good with hardware |
| 21:36.34 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: my problem went away for right now anyway lol |
| 21:37.48 | trek00 | sponix2ipfw: a freeze? |
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| 21:38.42 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: No... jellyfin will MAX 1 or 3 CPU cores and just keep that up 24/7 until I restart it. Then after a bit, it will go right back to that. I have a similar issue with regular firefox also |
| 21:38.53 | mutantturkey | hello, i am using sysvinit. I am looking at 'networking' specifically. I see in /etc/rcS.d/S12netwokring, which i think indicates 'start networking at runlevel S'. now from what i read runlevel S is for shutdown or reboot. However, i don't see another "S" file for starting networking in a runlevel i would expect (like 1-6) |
| 21:39.19 | mutantturkey | and well, the init file says the same, start:S stop: 0, 6 |
| 21:39.32 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: my hardware itself has ghosts, so it is likely hard to reproduce for others |
| 21:40.05 | sponix2ipfw | mutantturkey: and what Version of Debian are you using with SysV ? |
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| 21:40.43 | trek00 | mutantturkey: S is single user mode, the first stage of boot, before the multi-user mode is started (2-5) |
| 21:40.53 | mutantturkey | gotcha, now i understand trek00 |
| 21:40.59 | trek00 | mutantturkey: 0 is shutdown and 6 reboot |
| 21:41.35 | trek00 | mutantturkey: see man init |
| 21:42.34 | trek00 | sponix2ipfw: do you have gnome installed? |
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| 21:43.13 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: No, xfce |
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| 21:43.33 | trek00 | sponix2ipfw: what is the process which eat all the cpu? |
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| 21:44.43 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: well, nothing takes all of it. Most just do one or two cores. I also had this issue of one core at MAX with xfwm4 when using the default composition method. I now have it set to "none" as compton gave some issues also |
| 21:45.24 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: if anyone else needs help though, they should be a higher priority. As I am not even on true Debian |
| 21:45.34 | warsoul | guys just to let you know my pc freezes just when firefox or chrome is open (sometimes not all the time) |
| 21:45.43 | trek00 | sponix2ipfw: i mean when you see 1 cpu at max and watching with top, do you see firefox and/or jellyfin using all that cpu? |
| 21:46.34 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: yes, using top/htop/gnome-system-monitor 1 (or 2) cores will be at 100% for those processes |
| 21:46.50 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: not my "whole CPU" though, that would be all 10 cores lol |
| 21:47.09 | trek00 | warsoul: firefox and chrome are cpu/gpu/io intensive programs, may be the just trigger your hardware issue (like booting) |
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| 21:47.36 | warsoul | ok |
| 21:47.41 | trek00 | sponix2ipfw: may be you could debug further checking which thread is actually doing this |
| 21:47.49 | warsoul | trek00 should i take my gpu out and put it back again |
| 21:47.54 | warsoul | to see if that fixes the problem |
| 21:47.57 | trek00 | sponix2ipfw: on top press 'H' |
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| 21:49.29 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: I will resume this when I return home in 20 minutes. If you are up to it |
| 21:49.34 | trek00 | warsoul: well i will try to run memtest before unplugging things (and before to plug again you need to clean all the dust on the card and the socket) |
| 21:49.52 | sponix2ipfw | trek00: in top "H" didn't seem to do much for me, do I need to already have the jellyfin process highlighted or something ? |
| 21:50.11 | warsoul | trek00 thats the thing i dont have dust or nothing |
| 21:50.15 | warsoul | pc is like brand new |
| 21:50.19 | warsoul | :s |
| 21:50.47 | Gryllida | Hello. I've installed obs-studio. Started obs. It says " Failed to initialize video. Your GPU may not be supported, or your graphics drivers may need to be updated." and immediately exits. I have an Intel 965GM graphics card. What package is missing? Thank you in advance. |
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| 21:51.08 | trek00 | sponix2ipfw: with firefox you should see all the many threads it launch, but you could see also some mesa3d thread on any 3d accelerated application |
| 21:51.51 | sponix2ipfw | Gotta run, will be back in a bit |
| 21:52.00 | trek00 | warsoul: yes but when you unplug things, there is the chance some dust go inside the socket |
| 21:53.05 | trek00 | Gryllida: glxinfo should says if you have 3d acceleration enabled or instead software rendering |
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| 21:56.40 | warsoul | ok |
| 21:56.41 | Gryllida | trek00: flxinfo: http://paste.debian.net/plain/1145006 |
| 21:56.43 | warsoul | going to try it |
| 21:56.52 | Gryllida | trek00: glxinfo, i typoed here |
| 21:57.07 | trek00 | Gryllida: it seems enabled |
| 21:57.20 | trek00 | Gryllida: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM |
| 21:57.57 | warsoul | trek00 can clean it with what? |
| 21:59.10 | Gryllida | trek00: obs output: http://paste.debian.net/plain/1145011 |
| 21:59.44 | trek00 | Gryllida: it seems your issue is you have an old card which supports only opengl 2.1, but it seems obs need version 3.2 or newer https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/opengl-version.36596/ |
| 21:59.46 | LtL | warsoul: canned air, compressed air in a can. |
| 22:00.19 | Gryllida | trek00: thank you, you found that out. :) i can't replace my card. what are my other options? |
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| 22:01.01 | sney | replace the whole laptop then |
| 22:01.08 | trek00 | Gryllida: may be running with the software renderer, but it would be painfully slow |
| 22:01.34 | warsoul | ok |
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| 22:01.42 | d1g1ta1 | lwp: The new USB image got me further (asks if I want to do a graphical (full or VESA) or install, but when I choose any of the three options I just get a black screen. |
| 22:01.59 | Gryllida | trek00: maybe you know another software for this? i'd like to blur background of webcam, or replace it with another background. |
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| 22:03.30 | trek00 | warsoul: if you see dust, with compressed air or a cloth, if you don't see dust just blow on it |
| 22:04.00 | trek00 | Gryllida: nope sorry |
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| 22:04.25 | Gryllida | trek00: okay, thank you for clearing up the situation with obs. Is there a way to somehow make apt prompt about this issue before proceeding with the install? |
| 22:04.44 | Gryllida | trek00: should I report a bug asking to update dependencies list so that opengl3.2+ is required? |
| 22:05.26 | trek00 | Gryllida: no it depends by your card, not by the library/drivers |
| 22:05.40 | sney | it wouldn't be a dependency but maybe a debconf warning for "no useful hardware detected" |
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| 22:05.53 | sney | debian doesn't typically do that, though. |
| 22:07.06 | [E]sc | i'm getting systematic noise from the top left side of my laptop when using 5.5.0 kernel and gnome-shell 3.36.1. There's no noise in BIOS or tty or LXDE or kernel 5.3.0. I turned off gnome-extensions and the sound dies down eventually, but starts back up again when i open an application. i suspect the fan is being overused, but can't be sure. how can i fix this? |
| 22:10.58 | sponix | trek00: the jellyfin issue solved itself for now _again_ ... Going to try it with remote access enabled one more time, and see if it continues the odd behavior |
| 22:12.00 | trek00 | [E]sc: you should check how much the cpu (or gpu) is loaded, for example running top when you ear the noise |
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| 22:15.20 | [E]sc | trek00: the noise turns on the moment i log onto gdm3. after shutting down services, the sound still persists. when i turn off the gnome-extensions, it eventually dies down. however, if i click on say thunar, it'll start the clicking/grinding noise again. i had htop running but it didn't show me anything that stuck out |
| 22:15.55 | trek00 | [E]sc: which GPU do you have? |
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| 22:17.22 | [E]sc | trek00: Geforce MX150. |
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| 22:19.02 | trek00 | [E]sc: may be you can install nvidia-smi and run: watch -n 1 nvidia-smi |
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| 22:19.48 | trek00 | [E]sc: it should print the temperature and gpu load |
| 22:22.15 | [E]sc | trek00: thanks i'll try that and see what it tells me. |
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| 22:23.34 | trek00 | sponix: may be it's something related to the desktop environment, they are full of bugs :) |
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| 22:27.01 | sponix | trek00: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/2589 |
| 22:27.27 | sponix | trek00: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=248971 |
| 22:27.41 | sponix | trek00: at least these are know for other people having similar issues |
| 22:28.27 | sponix | trek00: I seem to have solved the jellyfin by disabling remote access, uPnP, and DLNA. And the xfwm4 is a matter of setting my composition type to "none" |
| 22:28.49 | sponix | trek00: and for me the firefox fix was just using ESR instead of regular firefox ;) |
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| 22:30.13 | annadane | the one time esr is useful... :P |
| 22:30.44 | Unit193 | > irker |
| 22:31.12 | Unit193 | I seem to be an idiot and didn't read context on that, my bad. |
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| 22:31.21 | sponix | Yeah.. I am use to fixing whatever issues come my way. And helping others with theirs |
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| 22:38.58 | trek00 | sponix: i asked about the process/thread consuming the cpu just because there are many components that can eat all the cpu :) |
| 22:41.04 | sponix | trek00: let me see if I can drill down on it -- if it happens again |
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| 23:01.08 | warsoul | trek00 just finished almost die |
| 23:01.09 | warsoul | lol |
| 23:01.19 | warsoul | i think i put something back wrong |
| 23:01.26 | warsoul | pc dindt was turning on |
| 23:01.38 | warsoul | i had to unplug gpu and memories again |
| 23:01.40 | warsoul | then it worked |
| 23:01.56 | warsoul | hopefully doenst freeze again |
| 23:02.20 | sponix | annadane: I found the issue, "jellyfin" is trying to do Microsoft networking calls ... No wonder it is going nuts. Amazing how Microsoft can corrupt anything |
| 23:02.43 | annadane | oh dear |
| 23:03.26 | sponix | System.Net.WebSockets.WebSocketException (7564911): The remote party closed the WebSocket connection without completing the close handshake. ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException (110): Connection timed out |
| 23:03.27 | sponix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:11.17 | saptech | hello all |
| 23:11.47 | saptech | I'm running Debian Buster and recently purchased a Epson WF-3720 AIO printer |
| 23:12.32 | saptech | I'm able to have the printer & scanner to work, but having a problem getting the Printer Utility working |
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| 23:13.53 | saptech | I found and followed this link for the Printer Utility, https://tutorialforlinux.com/2020/03/28/how-to-install-epson-printer-utility-on-debian-buster-10/3/ |
| 23:14.55 | saptech | It seems to want lsb but it's been deprecated in Buster. Is there anything else I could try to get the Printer Utility to work? |
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| 23:16.44 | annadane | er... cups? i'm not sure. |
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| 23:19.43 | saptech | Cups is working |
| 23:21.55 | warsoul | how can i install fixedsys font? |
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| 23:39.44 | brutser | when i connect my laptop to a monitor, i wan the monitor sort of "take over" from the laptop screen, i can do this easily on boot, check if hdmi is connected, if so, then turn off eDP (laptop monitor) with xrandr - but if i now unplug the hdmi cable, i got no screen anymore obviously, so my question is, can you automate this a little more, so when |
| 23:39.44 | brutser | you connect/disconnect the hdmi cable, it works smarter? |
| 23:42.57 | brutser | solutions i find are that i need to keep running things in the background every X seconds, to check if a monitor has been attached/detached |
| 23:43.07 | brutser | is that the only way? |
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| 23:48.13 | warsoul | how i upgrade debian9 to debian10 |
| 23:48.27 | sney | dpkg: stretch->buster |
| 23:48.27 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/JFKc . TL;DR: In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "stretch" to "buster", remove lines like stretch-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade |
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| 23:49.35 | nkuttler | ,v torbrowser-launcher |
| 23:49.36 | judd | Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 -- jessie/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3; stretch-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.3.2-8~bpo9+1; buster-backports/contrib: 0.3.2-10~bpo10+1; bullseye/contrib: 0.3.2-10; sid/contrib: 0.3.2-10 |
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| 23:50.55 | AndreasLutro | brutser: you might be able to do something with udev rules |
| 23:52.42 | brutser | AndreasLutro: i hoped that too, not sure yet how and i found a post by someone who also tried that but didn't succeeded |
| 23:53.35 | AndreasLutro | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Execute_on_VGA_cable_plug_in would be my starting point |
| 23:53.53 | warsoul | if i upgrade debian9 to debian10 sources.list will change?? |
| 23:55.02 | AndreasLutro | brutser: just make sure you use `udevadm monitor` to find the appropriate event that happens when you plug/unplug your monitor and you should be good |
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| 23:56.40 | brutser | AndreasLutro: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/drm/card0 |
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| 23:59.29 | LtL | warsoul: YOU must change your sources.list in order to upgrade. PLEASE read the release notes as dpkg suggested. |
