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| 01:00.07 | wikan | guys what exactly is gvfs |
| 01:00.21 | sklv1 | what's a lightweight way to send outgoing email status reports to one remote address from a vps? |
| 01:00.29 | Unit193 | I could tell you 'GNOME virtual filesystem", but not sure that'd help. |
| 01:00.46 | ectospasm | sklv1: set up an MTA, and configure it to forward mail to a smarthost. |
| 01:00.52 | wikan | yea, but I am trying to turn it off :| |
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| 01:01.27 | wikan | all gvfs are children of systemd |
| 01:01.37 | ectospasm | sklv1: I have GMail smtp set up to receive mail from my VPS (running Debian) |
| 01:02.10 | ectospasm | I use exim4 on Debian, but I find postfix to be easier to set up. |
| 01:02.20 | ectospasm | At least, the logwatch output for postfix is a lot nicer. |
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| 01:05.05 | wikan | test |
| 01:05.39 | ectospasm | PONG! |
| 01:05.48 | ectospasm | wikan: ^ |
| 01:06.13 | pfred1 | worst idle chan ever! |
| 01:07.15 | wikan | do I need avahi :|? |
| 01:07.54 | pfred1 | obly if you want an IP |
| 01:08.21 | pfred1 | internet connections are overrated |
| 01:08.24 | ectospasm | wikan: probably not. Do you have a lot of Apple devices on your network? |
| 01:08.33 | wikan | lol no |
| 01:10.12 | LtL | wikan: you don't need it. |
| 01:12.19 | wikan | better |
| 01:12.32 | wikan | now I need configure gtk3 apps |
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| 01:14.47 | wikan | the question is if I need polkit-1 service O.o? |
| 01:15.03 | ectospasm | wikan: I wouldn't get rid of polkit, too much depends on it. |
| 01:15.16 | ectospasm | Like, basic logins with systemd |
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| 01:15.29 | jmcnaught | Maybe you're using a desktop environment when you'd be happier with a simple window manager? |
| 01:16.19 | wikan | i use i3 |
| 01:16.32 | ectospasm | hate yourself, use XMonad. |
| 01:16.38 | nvz | heh |
| 01:17.15 | wikan | didn't like |
| 01:17.32 | ectospasm | My trouble with XMonad is I don't really know Haskell. I learn just enough to get some feature of XMonad working for me, and then I forget it. |
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| 01:17.48 | wikan | this is why I didn't like :D |
| 01:17.53 | ectospasm | Too much operator overloading in that language. |
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| 01:18.26 | ectospasm | And the way they document stuff is really confusing. Like I don't know what function: Maybe X() -> X() even means. |
| 01:18.29 | wikan | I have many scripts for i3 I made |
| 01:18.53 | ectospasm | Does i3 let you dynamically name workspaces yet? Every time I ask no one can answer me. |
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| 01:19.09 | ectospasm | Like, fire up a new workspace, give it a name (not a number) |
| 01:19.10 | wikan | nope and probably never will |
| 01:19.15 | ectospasm | I can do that in XMonad. |
| 01:19.26 | ectospasm | Bummer, looks like I won't be trying i3 anytime soon, then. |
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| 01:19.54 | wikan | many things are annoying in i3. It is even bugged. But still it is great ;) |
| 01:20.05 | ectospasm | I've got too much blood, sweat, and tears invested in my XMonad config. |
| 01:20.21 | wikan | for sure :P |
| 01:20.29 | ectospasm | Ahh, see that's what I love about XMonad. If you get something working, it works solid, no crashing or anything. |
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| 01:20.50 | ectospasm | The trick is getting what you want to work in the first place. |
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| 01:21.03 | ectospasm | Getting xmonad.hs to compile if you don't know Haskell is *hard*! |
| 01:21.12 | wikan | i3 works fine. No crashing or anything until you not touch enything :D |
| 01:21.41 | ectospasm | At least if something isn't going to work with XMonad, it fails at the compile step, not during runtime. |
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| 01:22.16 | ectospasm | Maybe what you're trying to do in XMonad doesn't work how you envision it, but at least you can get it to do *something* if it compiles without error. |
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| 01:23.09 | wikan | I will not use xmonad until configuration is a joke |
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| 01:24.35 | wikan | i3 does everything what I need and what I want :) |
| 01:25.42 | wikan | i need lightweight webbrowser :| |
| 01:26.34 | wikan | fuck css3 fuck js6 gimme fast web browser - cryyyiiinngggg |
| 01:27.08 | wikan | i wonder how it is possible midori is so popular |
| 01:27.39 | wikan | anytime I was trying to use it midori never worked |
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| 01:28.33 | wikan | they would change theri motto - not discover web but discover segfaults and system errors |
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| 01:47.28 | ectospasm | I keep chromium around to watch stuff Vivaldi won't load. |
| 01:47.50 | ectospasm | I have firefox installed, but I loathe it. |
| 01:48.56 | ectospasm | Every time I go to give firefox another shot, it screws me over. "No, you didn't crash Firefox, just load normally! I want to load all extensions, I don't want to be in Safe Mode. Nor do I want to refresh. Give me an option to load normally, I know what I'm doing!" |
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| 01:49.27 | ectospasm | Firefox documentation on the subject is a joke.c |
| 01:49.32 | Jmabsd | Can you search for packages using "apt"? |
| 01:49.42 | ectospasm | Jmabsd: apt search <string> |
| 01:49.48 | wikan | wow i didn;t know xterm is such good |
| 01:50.04 | Jmabsd | wikan: how? =) |
| 01:50.07 | wikan | it may be configure and looks great |
| 01:50.23 | ectospasm | wikan: really? I never used xterm as a daily driver, looked to X11ish. |
| 01:50.28 | ectospasm | I use alacritty now |
| 01:50.45 | wikan | i set font to Hack and it looks the same as mate-terminal |
| 01:50.46 | ectospasm | I use iTerm2 at work, but only because our IT team refused to install alacritty for me. |
| 01:51.08 | wikan | and it is easy to set colors in .Xresource |
| 01:51.36 | wikan | looks the same but is not heavy |
| 01:51.39 | UndeadLeech | XTerm being too X11ish? What would give you that idea?! |
| 01:51.52 | ectospasm | I ripped out my .Xresources config, just have dzen2 stuff now. I had to put `xrdb -merge .Xresources` back in my .xinitrc |
| 01:52.05 | UndeadLeech | ectospasm: Do you not have admin rights on your mac machine? Managed by IT? |
| 01:52.21 | wikan | UndeadLeech: default settings makes xterm ugly and looking X11ish |
| 01:52.30 | ectospasm | UndeadLeech: exactly. I connect to too many customer VPNs, can't be giving me root access (customers' policies) |
| 01:53.24 | UndeadLeech | I'm glad I still got root on mine, though people definitely want to change that. Though I'd probably just put Alacritty somewhere in home. |
| 01:53.32 | ectospasm | Half our engineers run Ubuntu (apparently that's the only desktop Linux IT will allow on company hardware) |
| 01:53.41 | wikan | 3. 2. 1. arch docs are awesome |
| 01:53.42 | UndeadLeech | ectospasm: Are you able to bypass the apple security checks? |
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| 01:54.09 | ectospasm | UndeadLeech: No. I can install alacritty in Homebrew, but alas, it's unsigned, and I can't load unsigned software on this Mac. |
| 01:54.32 | lawr3nce | UndeadLeech, xterm is the terminal program for x11 |
| 01:54.36 | lawr3nce | .... |
| 01:54.44 | UndeadLeech | Yeah, that's kinda what I'm afraid of. Honestly fuck apple with their stupid $99/year developer account stuff. |
| 01:54.48 | UndeadLeech | lawr3nce: I was joking. :) |
| 01:54.53 | ectospasm | And my homebrew installation is in my home directory, which is nonstandard (and unsupported), but the only way I can use it. |
| 01:55.11 | UndeadLeech | It's incredible how hostile apple is to people actually trying to write free software for their platform. |
| 01:56.05 | ectospasm | !ot |
| 01:56.05 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 01:56.12 | lawr3nce | UndeadLeech, their design isn't that bad tho |
| 01:56.13 | ectospasm | I'm guilty, too! |
| 01:56.26 | lawr3nce | I like iOS |
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| 01:56.53 | UndeadLeech | ectospasm: Was just curious since it might affect me and Alacritty development in the future. Thanks for the info. |
| 01:57.56 | ectospasm | iTerm2 is signed, and is free (IIRC). It has way too many features though, I'd like to turn off some of their keyboard shortcuts. |
| 01:59.24 | lawr3nce | ectospasm, what's some good from their kb shortcuts? |
| 02:00.14 | wikan | dont understant why ppl use macs |
| 02:00.24 | wikan | ok it is probably better than windows |
| 02:00.39 | wikan | but linux is better |
| 02:01.16 | lawr3nce | wikan, please don't say that... I mean, be different from typical people who understimate Mac. Yeah, I do prefer GNU/Linux though since it's open-source. |
| 02:01.27 | wikan | the same with ubuntu. I know that same ppl don't have enough mmoney to buy Mac, but it is not a reason to use ubuntu |
| 02:02.19 | wikan | but i really dont get it. Mac is extremly closed |
| 02:02.30 | lawr3nce | wikan I have no idea of what you're talking about... why shouldn't someone use Ubuntu? |
| 02:02.38 | lawr3nce | it may be a good start to get into Linux :) |
| 02:03.11 | wikan | maybe, but tech enginers should not use ubuntu |
| 02:03.34 | lawr3nce | we're generally talking |
| 02:04.17 | ectospasm | wikan: I think that directive came down because we still based our server platform on Ubuntu 12.04. We're (slowly) migrating to RHEL 7, but it's a pain to upgrade in place. |
| 02:04.46 | ectospasm | And some people don't give two shits about free vs. nonfree. |
| 02:06.16 | wikan | well ubu is popular because it is easy and after ppl learn it they can use docker images for servers |
| 02:06.59 | wikan | but for ppl who want to configure something more than window manager settings ubuntu is a nightmare |
| 02:07.52 | wikan | you changes settings ubuntu overwrites it so you looking for this service, then looking for scripts agghhrrrrr |
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| 02:11.12 | wikan | but still for me ubuntu on servers is better than centos :D |
| 02:12.31 | ectospasm | wikan: The startup mantra is,"Fuck it, ship it!" We had to get architecture out fast, it wasn't really well thought out at the beginning. |
| 02:13.01 | ectospasm | It's more mature now, now we have image upgrades. I'm not sure how well our application would work as hosted docker images. |
| 02:13.13 | ectospasm | Our cloud stuff uses kubernetes. |
| 02:13.14 | karlpinc | ectospasm: Trouble with RH is that it does not upgrade. That's one reason I stick with Debian. |
| 02:14.21 | karlpinc | One big difference between Ubuntu and Debian is that Ubuntu installs non-free firmware by default. This makes installing Debian more work (unless you take steps) so people install Ubuntu. |
| 02:14.38 | InnovAnon-Inc | lol @ RH. I remember one time, we were upgrading a Fedora server that hadn't been rebooted in several years. It never came back up. hahahaha |
| 02:15.06 | wikan | ectospasm: i didn;t say anything to you :) |
| 02:15.40 | karlpinc | However, this is a Debian support channel. So general OS observations belong elsewhere. There's always #debian-offtopic. |
| 02:15.55 | wikan | ectospasm: i mean I didn't say you are "stupid" or something because you use Ubu. I didn't even know ;) |
| 02:16.45 | ectospasm | karlpinc: Our engineering has devised an image upgrade system, so when we upgrade, we replace everything (OS, application, everything) in a couple of hours. The fact that RHEL doesn't upgrade from 7->8 shouldn't pose a problem. |
| 02:17.19 | ectospasm | wikan: I was just saying it wasn't my decision to run Ubuntu, period! |
| 02:17.34 | ectospasm | I work with what we have, though. I don't complain too much. |
| 02:17.46 | pfred1 | karlpinc Ubuntu installs a lot that I don't want installed and it takes me longer to remove software than install it |
| 02:17.54 | wikan | ectospasm: this is how we work ;) |
| 02:18.11 | UndeadLeech | Pretty sure if you're not complaining, you're doing it wrong. |
| 02:18.25 | InnovAnon-Inc | I did something like that on a debian cluster before docker was a thing. It was cool. Though I was using debootstrap to make stripped-down ramboot systems |
| 02:18.52 | ectospasm | UndeadLeech: I don't have the power to change things, as I'm a production support engineer. When shit's wrong, I file Jiras. That's about as far as I can go. |
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| 02:19.06 | wikan | my debian uses 200MB or memory after X login, ubuntu > 600MB no matter what I was trying to do, fedora is a joke |
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| 02:19.38 | pfred1 | wikan 200 MB idle is good I'm at about 234 MB here |
| 02:20.02 | Jmabsd | ectospasm,*: How do you look up which package contains a given filename, "apt-file"?? |
| 02:20.03 | wikan | debian 59MB after boot to terminal, record.... opensuse 29MB |
| 02:20.13 | pfred1 | before that which shall not be named I could run around 28 MB |
| 02:20.35 | Jmabsd | there is no "aptitude file" and no "apt file" function |
| 02:21.06 | jmcnaught | Jmabsd: for installed packages "dpkg -S /foo/bar" and for uninstalled packaged apt-file |
| 02:21.13 | Jmabsd | ic |
| 02:21.17 | jmcnaught | ^packaged^packages |
| 02:21.19 | ectospasm | Jmabsd: I don't remember off the top of my head, you should search the man page for finding out which package owns an absolute path to a file you're curious about. |
| 02:21.28 | Jmabsd | jmcnaught: "apt-XYZ" and "apt XYZ" are *noooot* the same thing right |
| 02:21.33 | wikan | i am trying to get 120MB after X boot and can't figure out where is the wall |
| 02:21.41 | pfred1 | dlocate -S `which apt-file` |
| 02:21.58 | jmcnaught | Jmabsd: apt is a tool that encompasses functionality of apt-get and apt-cache |
| 02:22.10 | pfred1 | that only works if it is installed |
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| 02:22.54 | pfred1 | apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file |
| 02:24.56 | pfred1 | otherwise aptitude search apt-file |
| 02:25.29 | Jmabsd | jmcnaught: but "apt" also does some more.... really "apt" is only a smart wrapper on top of apt-get and apt-cache specifically?? |
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| 02:26.04 | jmcnaught | Jmabsd: you can check the man page, I don't know if apt directly calls apt-get and apt-cache, or if they simply share a common library. |
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| 02:29.01 | pfred1 | I wonder why my aptitude is a link to /etc/alternatives/aptitude |
| 02:29.33 | pfred1 | I never knew there were any alternatives |
| 02:29.59 | karlpinc | jmcnaught: (There's something faster than "dpkg -S" (perhaps apt-cache?), but I always use "dpkg -S" myself.) |
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| 02:31.19 | jmcnaught | karlpinc: dpkg -S seems pretty fast to me, but I'm not aware of a way to search files in apt-cache. |
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| 02:31.47 | themill | !dlocate |
| 02:31.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, dlocate is now similar to <locate>, can be used to locate the package a file belongs to; "update-dlocatedb" to update the database to include recently installed files - has similar functionality as dpkg -S, but is faster. |
| 02:32.48 | themill | If the fs cache is hot the dpkg -S is okish, but thousands of small text files from a cold cache is not pretty |
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| 02:36.02 | Jmabsd | themill,jmcnaught,ectospasm: the whole package management thing sounds a bit fragmented |
| 02:37.01 | pfred1 | deb is still the defacto standard |
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| 02:51.06 | themill | Jmabsd: it has a man page |
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| 05:00.25 | efloid | bluejaypop: man route |
| 05:00.59 | bluejaypop | efloid, thanks mate, is it possible to do this? |
| 05:01.17 | efloid | bluejaypop: you need either a 'host route' or a 'net route' depending upon what you're going to/from |
| 05:01.52 | efloid | bluejaypop: yes using route or also using netfilter |
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| 05:02.53 | efloid | bluejaypop: route add -net 10.10.10.0/24 gw 192.168.0.1 something along this line |
| 05:04.19 | bluejaypop | My scenario: (Debian Router ) NIC 1 public IP that acts as gw - IP ending .117 ; NIC 2 another public IP ending with .193 .. (Test pc) public IP in the same subnet from NIC 2 on Router Debian ending with .195. |
| 05:04.53 | efloid | bluejaypop: also, the ip command supercedes the route command. here is an example using ip: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ip-command-examples-usage-syntax/#15 |
| 05:05.09 | bluejaypop | so, it works from Test PC to outside correctly, i'm using public IP I but im behind a nat. |
| 05:05.18 | bluejaypop | ok, let me check the link |
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| 05:23.51 | bluejaypop | efloid, from the debian router I can ping the public IP from the Test PC. But not from outside. |
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| 05:24.30 | bluejaypop | i did a tcpdump and it goes to the correct server and the reply and everything is okay, but from outside i don't know how to redirect that traffic. |
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| 05:35.14 | efloid | if you're trying to route from outside to an internal ip address on a private subnet you need port forwarding |
| 05:35.25 | efloid | bluejaypop: ^^^ |
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| 05:35.56 | efloid | efloid: or else set up a vpn if it's private traffic |
| 05:36.09 | bluejaypop | efloid, that's the thing, this is a public subnet. |
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| 05:40.13 | efloid | lol it's not public if it can't be reached from outside |
| 05:40.40 | stompykins | hi #debian i love you all |
| 05:40.47 | stompykins | i just want to say CSDs are cancer. that is all |
| 05:41.16 | efloid | bluejaypop: i would need to see a network diagram. otherwise, you would normally set port forwarding on your modem or router |
| 05:41.40 | bluejaypop | efloid, let me try to do it |
| 05:42.16 | efloid | blueingress: otherwise you might need to add a reverse route from whatever outward-machine to the internal machine/net |
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| 06:42.33 | awal1 | conky not showing up networking here. |
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| 06:42.43 | monksam | How to convert pptx to mp4 in debian? Some tool? |
| 06:42.47 | stompykins | did you specify the correct device awal1 |
| 06:43.30 | awal1 | stmpykins, yes. in my .conkyrcI have I have Networking:$color Up:${color yellowgreen}${upspeed wlan0} ${color dimgrey}- $color Down: ${color yellowgreen}${downspeed wlan0} |
| 06:43.41 | stompykins | isnt pptx a microsoft powerpoint format? |
| 06:43.49 | tarzeau | stompykins: and libreoffice, |
| 06:43.51 | stompykins | awal1: try changing wlan0 to wlp2s0 |
| 06:43.55 | stompykins | or whatever your device is named |
| 06:43.58 | awal1 | now I'm using an usb wifi adapter 5ghz, detected by nm as wlan1. |
| 06:43.59 | stompykins | run sudo iwconfig |
| 06:44.00 | tarzeau | monksam: but really it doesn't make sense to convert that to an mp4?? |
| 06:44.15 | awal1 | so if i change wlan0 by wlan1 , it doesn't work either |
| 06:44.21 | stompykins | awal1: try changing wlan0 to wlp2s0 |
| 06:44.33 | stompykins | check your device name with iwconfig in terminal |
| 06:44.40 | awal1 | ok |
| 06:44.48 | stompykins | :) |
| 06:44.51 | stompykins | let me know if it works |
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| 06:45.14 | stompykins | also if you think your new device is wlan1 its probably wlp2s1 |
| 06:45.47 | stompykins | when debian switched to systemd i noticed the device names changed. i had to get used to it :P |
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| 06:45.55 | monksam | Yeah, pptx is microsoft powerpoint format. |
| 06:46.04 | awal1 | i see wlan1 IEEE 802.11 ESSID:"blablabla_5GHz" |
| 06:46.16 | stompykins | does powerpoint not have an option to export to video? thats kinda out of the scope of this chat btw |
| 06:46.25 | monksam | My tutor recorded her screen in power point and shared that video on moodle. |
| 06:46.33 | awal1 | well, since systemd i have to learn a bit about networking naming now |
| 06:46.46 | stompykins | awal1: can you paste the output of iwconfig on debian paste |
| 06:47.08 | monksam | No worries stompykins...I'll access our hub pc or laptop. |
| 06:47.32 | stompykins | monksam: i'd try re-exporting it from powerpoint. i dont really know much about ms office programs i apologize |
| 06:47.48 | stompykins | awal1: what version of debian are you running? |
| 06:48.14 | monksam | I've using libreoffice impress, but it doesn't have export to feature. |
| 06:48.27 | monksam | Like in microsoft powerpoint have |
| 06:48.36 | monksam | export to mp4. |
| 06:49.02 | awal1 | stompykins, 1 second. i'm on sid |
| 06:49.10 | stompykins | monksam: you could join #libreoffice and ask them perhaps? |
| 06:49.48 | monksam | Yup, that seems like a good idea. Thank you. |
| 06:49.53 | stompykins | awal1: theres a support channel @ #conky if you want to ask them as well |
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| 06:50.32 | awal1 | stompykins, yeah i know about -next will ask there |
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| 06:51.07 | awal1 | stompykins, changed to wlp2s1 but no results |
| 06:51.10 | awal1 | :P |
| 06:51.35 | stompykins | well you should use the name of the device you see in sudo iwconfig |
| 06:51.47 | stompykins | if you're seeing wlan1 you should use wlan1 |
| 06:51.54 | stompykins | thats just... odd. did you rename it yourself? |
| 06:52.09 | awal1 | no, renamed auto |
| 06:52.16 | awal1 | 1 second i paste |
| 06:52.52 | awal1 | paste.debian.net no longer available? |
| 06:52.55 | awal1 | !paste |
| 06:52.55 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 06:52.56 | stompykins | just fyi before anyone chews you out there is a channel on a diff server for bullseye/sid |
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| 06:57.40 | awal1 | stompykins, debian paste is down now, so ubunutu |
| 06:57.43 | awal1 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bKYzdwKP7n/ |
| 06:59.04 | Haohmaru | pastebuntu |
| 06:59.54 | stompykins | oh wow |
| 06:59.55 | awal1 | stompykins, so as you see it is wlan1 but it doesn't work having in .conkyrc " Networking:$color Up:${color yellowgreen}${upspeed wlan1} ${color dimgrey}- $color Down: ${color yellowgreen}${downspeed wlan1} " |
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| 07:00.21 | stompykins | obvious question: are you pointing that file at conky when you launch it? |
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| 07:00.59 | stompykins | see if this helps awal1 -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/350409/conky-does-not-display-wireless-info |
| 07:02.17 | awal1 | stompykins, yes , my openbox starts that via autostart file executing (sleep 5s && conky -c ~/.conkyrc) & |
| 07:03.40 | stompykins | ill bet its a permissions problem |
| 07:03.45 | stompykins | check out that link |
| 07:03.55 | stompykins | perhaps try running conky with sudo? |
| 07:04.07 | stompykins | i mean, i dunno why else it wouldnt work |
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| 07:06.11 | awal1 | stompykins, hm, ok, thanks . i'm not sure when it stopped working , not sure if since i use 5ghz band. but thanks for you help . i will check that link and check what i can do else (now dinner first) |
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| 07:06.27 | stompykins | can you try running it with sudo first? |
| 07:06.27 | awal1 | :) |
| 07:06.35 | stompykins | i really think its a permissions problem... |
| 07:06.38 | stompykins | it'll take five seconds |
| 07:06.50 | stompykins | (i may not be here when you get back, also) |
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| 07:09.25 | awal1 | conky: can't open display: |
| 07:09.31 | stompykins | lol |
| 07:09.34 | awal1 | i forgot how to solve that, hm |
| 07:09.34 | stompykins | nevermind |
| 07:09.37 | stompykins | go eat your dinner ill be around |
| 07:09.39 | stompykins | :P |
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| 07:14.41 | awal1 | stompykins, ok, access control solved for root with DISPLAY=:0 application-to-execute |
| 07:14.57 | awal1 | so |
| 07:15.08 | awal1 | DISPLAY=:0 conky -c /home/x/.conkyrc |
| 07:15.11 | awal1 | and it works |
| 07:15.24 | awal1 | now conky shows networking up/down for wlan1 |
| 07:15.25 | stompykins | did it fix your wifi display issue tho |
| 07:15.27 | stompykins | oooh |
| 07:15.30 | stompykins | so it WAS permissions |
| 07:15.37 | stompykins | that article shows you how to setpcap and all that |
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| 07:15.42 | stompykins | that oughta solve your problem :D |
| 07:15.49 | awal1 | yes |
| 07:15.55 | stompykins | im not sure if theres any danger to running conky with sudo |
| 07:16.00 | stompykins | but it may be better to just fix the issue |
| 07:16.21 | stompykins | now you got me tempted to make up my own conky config |
| 07:16.46 | awal1 | thanks for your help. later i follow that web link, now that i know what is the problem (pwermissions) . i like to take time to do stuff correctly :) |
| 07:16.55 | awal1 | thanks for your elp, bro :) |
| 07:16.56 | stompykins | yz |
| 07:16.58 | stompykins | anytime |
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| 07:17.19 | awal1 | i think the issue started several months ago |
| 07:17.30 | awal1 | since all the changes done to permissions on debian |
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| 07:18.28 | awal1 | many stuff involved and many apps won't run now bcoz of permissions . i have to dedicate a time to learn about what changed and arrange thins |
| 07:19.00 | stompykins | really? i havent really had any problems |
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| 07:19.10 | awal1 | so, thanks bro. problem solved for now :) give conky correct permission will be the next step :) |
| 07:19.23 | awal1 | well, gparted for example won't start |
| 07:19.27 | awal1 | thynar as root |
| 07:19.33 | awal1 | and many other stuff |
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| 07:25.45 | awal1 | stompykins, this bug i reported for example https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913985 |
| 07:25.46 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/913985 in thunar (open): «thunar: Thunar do not open as root»; severity: important; opened: 2018-11-18; last modified: 2018-11-18. |
| 07:26.30 | awal1 | you may help :) well, me now my head hurting bcoz hungry , lol |
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| 08:28.21 | Jmabsd | How use "apt-file" or other tool to find the package name which contains a file by a given filename? |
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| 08:36.52 | Jmabsd | Just curious to know, "update-grub" does not imply "update-initramfs". A normal Linux like Debian, needs update-initramfs because of what - the initramfs is like an initial read-only filesystem that is an _early boot environment_ which contains Linux modules, some kernel configuration and some other things, and for this reason you need to run update-initramfs sometimes? |
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| 09:06.46 | Jekkan | Hi all! I'm trying to boot the installation USB device, but i receive the erro /EFI/BOOT/mmx64.efi not found. I've taken the grub64.efi file, renamed as mmx64.efi and tried to put it in /boot/EFI/BOOT/ /boot/efi/EFI/ /EFI/BOOT/ |
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| 09:06.59 | Jekkan | nothing change... where i have to put this file ??? |
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| 09:12.11 | RadoS | sney, I got a pointer, literally speaking. ;-) There is a tracking stick in the keyboard that I never used (and totally forgot about its meaning), so I never connected it to the lower part of the touchpad area. But it seems the upper buttons belong to that stick. |
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| 09:15.38 | fireba11 | hi, i found a system (managed by a 3rd party) where sudo refuses to work when the user doesn not have a password set. this seems like a good security setting and i'm wondering if anyone give me a hint on how to configure that ... |
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| 09:17.30 | AndreasLutro | fireba11: as long as you don't configure passwordless sudo in /etc/sudoers, you shouldn't be able to sudo without a configured password |
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| 09:20.32 | fireba11 | AndreasLutro: interesting ... seems the defaults here do allow that, will check, thanks |
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| 09:44.59 | diogenes_ | Jekkan, i didn't get what you're trying to do. |
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| 09:46.56 | Jekkan | diogenes_: i'm trying to boot the installation media in EFI mode, but i receive the error \EFI\BOOT\mmx64.efi not found |
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| 09:48.13 | diogenes_ | Jekkan, details, what iso, how you wrote it to usb. |
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| 09:49.07 | Jekkan | diogenes_: wrote it with gnome-disks, tried with net-install and the iso downloadable by torrent |
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| 09:50.29 | diogenes_ | Jekkan, try a live iso and write it with: sudo cp debian.iso /dev/sdx && sync |
| 09:51.24 | Jekkan | diogenes_: ok, i will try, but i don't think the problem is with the media device.. |
| 09:52.48 | diogenes_ | Jekkan, and keep in mind, /dev/sdx and not partition /dev/sdx1. |
| 09:53.11 | Jekkan | diogenes_: yes yes, i'm doing that right now |
| 09:53.41 | Jekkan | diogenes_: the image downloaded by torrent was alredy the live. I'm writing it with that command |
| 09:54.29 | diogenes_ | jakkalso provide the link for the iso you're using. |
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| 09:55.06 | Jekkan | diogenes_: is the gnome version from here https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ |
| 09:55.55 | jeroenimo | I'm having issues with a debian stretch installation. wget and curl both refuse to connect on https because they do not have an up to date cacert.pem, I updated the ca-certs , I even tried giving curl --cacert option.. no dice .... |
| 09:57.04 | diogenes_ | Jekkan, those should book just fine in UEFI even with secure boot enabled. |
| 09:57.51 | Jekkan | diogenes_: infact i'm pretty sure the problem is not the media... can you tell me where is located your mmx64.efi file in /boot? |
| 09:58.17 | rmacd | jeroenimo: Just to check - assuming system time is ok? |
| 09:59.23 | rmacd | If it's only one resource you're trying to connect to you'll know you can use -k |
| 09:59.26 | diogenes_ | Jekkan, /boot/efi/EFI/Debian/ |
| 09:59.58 | jeroenimo | rmacd: root@web1:/etc/ssl/certs# date |
| 09:59.58 | jeroenimo | Tue Jun 2 11:59:42 CEST 2020 |
| 10:01.50 | rmacd | jeroenimo: and this is for _any_ HTTPS site? |
| 10:02.04 | jeroenimo | rmacd: nope, it's a few ones... |
| 10:03.48 | jeroenimo | rmacd: it's from COMODO that it does not work, but letsencrypt works fine |
| 10:04.17 | Jekkan | nothing to do... |
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| 10:05.28 | festerdam | Hi, all. |
| 10:05.35 | rmacd | jeroenimo: Ok so maybe COMODO CA is missing .. are these public sites / could we test from our end? |
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| 10:06.16 | jeroenimo | rmacd: yes you can check: www.nrc.nl fails here with both wget and curl |
| 10:06.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys |
| 10:06.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | i keep getting "from": "root (Cron Daemon)", |
| 10:06.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | in my cron mail headers |
| 10:06.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | how can i make it be like food@gmail.com |
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| 10:09.10 | jelly | jeroenimo, which version of ca-certificates package is installed? |
| 10:09.43 | jelly | jeroenimo, do you have an URL to reproduce this with |
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| 10:11.46 | jeroenimo | jelly: Version: 20161130+nmu1+deb9u1 |
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| 10:12.43 | jeroenimo | jelly: www.nrc.nl gives an error about untrusted and expired |
| 10:12.45 | fireba11 | Eryn_1983_FL: if you want to use it to sort those, you can set to "to" adress and put some aliases on your admin mailbox :-D |
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| 10:13.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | but its the from it doesnt like |
| 10:14.02 | jeroenimo | jelly: in my browser all is fine.. expiry dat in 2021 and valid |
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| 10:16.10 | rmacd | jeroenimo: I can confirm I'm able to replicate on my jessie box as well. Just digging into this. |
| 10:16.50 | jeroenimo | rmacd: thanks! I was already doubting myself! |
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| 10:19.19 | jeroenimo | rmacd: jelly: I can confirm that all sites on my rss aggregator that use COMODO all are considered untrusted and invalid.. |
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| 10:21.11 | jeroenimo | rmacd: jelly: oops found one more Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA |
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| 10:21.37 | rmacd | jeroenimo: https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/02/sectigo_root_cert_expires/ |
| 10:21.56 | Eryn_1983_FL | grrr |
| 10:22.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | so frustrating it use to work fine |
| 10:22.12 | rmacd | jeroenimo: It's not you - it's them :) |
| 10:22.37 | jeroenimo | But why doesn't my browser complain! LOL |
| 10:22.54 | rmacd | jeroenimo: are you on Firefox? |
| 10:23.01 | RadoS | Eryn_1983_FL, make your MTA translate it for you. |
| 10:23.24 | jeroenimo | rmacd: firefox and/or brave.. and curl seems to have no issues with the sectigo cert now |
| 10:23.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | mmm |
| 10:23.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | i think i got it |
| 10:23.52 | RadoS | Eryn_1983_FL, or wrap it with a mailer with your sender-addr of choice. |
| 10:24.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | i did |
| 10:24.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | its in the script its mailing it out |
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| 10:24.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got a from set in there and its not using it for cron |
| 10:24.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | for somereason |
| 10:24.32 | jeroenimo | rmacd: I narrowed it down, the feed I was looking at was also COMODO.. it seems to a specific to COMODO on my debbie stretch |
| 10:25.01 | rmacd | jeroenimo: Firefox uses its own trust store, so I'm not surprised by browser still working |
| 10:25.20 | rmacd | Re the sectigo cert it would be interesting to see when the cert was issued - perhaps literally fixed right as we were chatting |
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| 10:26.24 | jeroenimo | rmacd: I get valid certs in both browsers for sectigo |
| 10:30.44 | miskatonic | why does xserver-xorg-core recommend libpam-systemd? |
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| 10:44.12 | willemb | Hi there. I am experiencing this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=930699 |
| 10:44.14 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/930699 in unbound (closed, upstream): «unbound crashes with "Assertion nread >= 0 failed in evmap_io_del_"»; severity: normal; opened: 2019-06-18; last modified: 2020-02-29. |
| 10:44.42 | willemb | can we expect to see 1.9.6-1 in buster any time soon? |
| 10:47.46 | willemb | or at least in buster-backports |
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| 11:12.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | well it seems no matter what i do cron daemon the sender stays |
| 11:12.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | sigh |
| 11:12.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | i think ill have to change to supervisord or something else to do my commands. |
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| 11:19.05 | n_1-c_k | Eryn_1983_FL, if cron mail goes out via a local postfix instance, try sender_canonical_maps to change the from address. |
| 11:25.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | im using msmtp? |
| 11:25.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 11:48.33 | judd | Package: unbound on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4.22-3+deb8u3; jessie-security: 1.4.22-3+deb8u4; stretch: 1.6.0-3+deb9u2; buster: 1.9.0-2+deb10u1; buster-proposed-updates: 1.9.0-2+deb10u2; buster-security: 1.9.0-2+deb10u2; bullseye: 1.10.1-1; sid: 1.10.1-1 |
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| 12:11.53 | NetTerminalGene | what cool stuff i can do with debian? |
| 12:12.21 | vlt | NetTerminalGene: Much! |
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| 12:54.10 | zodd | Where can I put flags for chromium-driver. Adding flags to /etc/chromium / etc/chromium.d does not seem to get ignored |
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| 13:34.15 | interrobangd | any idea why "xinput list" does not show my keyboard? |
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| 14:02.03 | boeg | Hi - i'm on buster (via raspian) and have installed network-manager as well as added the unstable debian repo and installed wireguard, but when I try to add a wireguard profile to network manager, it says it cannot find VPN wireguard plugin for network manager. Where should I get that? I have tried to look for such a package but didnt find any |
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| 14:05.26 | nemo | so I was reading: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rx5600xt-linux-vbios&num=1 (I bought an rx5600) |
| 14:05.37 | nemo | I was wondering if: "Fortunately, no AMDGPU DRM kernel driver patches are needed or other changes... Just an updated Navi 10 SMC binary to be dropped in /lib/firmware/amdgpu/ and updating initramfs and a reboot to then enjoy the RX 5600 XT with updated vBIOS behaving on Linux." |
| 14:05.39 | boeg | Do i need to enable wireguard some how to make network manager aware of it? |
| 14:05.49 | nemo | is reflected in the debian stable amd firmware packages |
| 14:05.56 | nemo | or if I need a more advanced version or manual patching |
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| 14:11.03 | jmcnaught | ,v firmware-amd-graphics |
| 14:11.04 | judd | Package: firmware-amd-graphics on amd64 -- jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free: 20190114-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20190114-2; buster-backports/non-free: 20190717-2~bpo10+1; bullseye/non-free: 20190717-2; sid/non-free: 20190717-2 |
| 14:11.58 | jmcnaught | nemo: judging by the version 20190717-2~bpo10+1 in buster-backports/non-free that date is earlier than the article you linked, so the updated firmware is probably not packaged yet for Debian. |
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| 14:14.10 | nemo | jmcnaught: mm |
| 14:14.29 | nemo | jmcnaught: is this the sort of thing that might make it into backports? |
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| 14:14.36 | nemo | if/when the fix happens |
| 14:14.42 | nemo | guess I'll do it manually for now |
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| 14:15.44 | jmcnaught | If the newer firmware makes it into testing/bullseye (which seems likely) then it will probably also be backported for buster. |
| 14:16.04 | jmcnaught | I don't know what the timeline would be though. |
| 14:16.35 | Ulrar | Hi, does anyone know what could be causing an issue when trying to install openjdk-11-jre-headless on buster slim ? I'm getting a return code 100 from apt-get but I don't have the output, so I don't know what is failing |
| 14:17.25 | nemo | jmcnaught: kk. I'll definitely go with manual for now. I remember getting a kernel with a flag enabling touchpad support took like over a year ⺠|
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| 14:18.05 | nemo | but eh. that's why people use debian/devuan/(de)rivatives - for a bit of predictability in their lives. |
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| 14:20.20 | jmcnaught | Ulrar: can you get the output and put it on a paste site? |
| 14:20.45 | Ulrar | I can't get the output unfortunatly |
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| 14:21.09 | Ulrar | It's a dockerfile build in homeassistant, the only thing it logs is the return code |
| 14:21.59 | jmcnaught | That's unfortunate, there must be some way to see output. I would try to find that first, troubleshooting blind is going to be futile. |
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| 14:29.06 | Ulrar | I think the issue might be https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=863199#23 |
| 14:29.07 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/863199 in openjdk-8-jre-headless (closed): «error creating symbolic link '/usr/share/man/man1/rmid.1.gz.dpkg-tmp»; severity: important; opened: 2017-05-23; last modified: 2019-04-28. |
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| 14:48.03 | Ulrar | It was indeed, doing the mkdir solves it |
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| 15:31.06 | williamsthr | Hi. Can someone assist with issues installing debian on new laptop please? Happy to provide logs needed. Fresh install. Xorg doesn't seem to load. Intel HD Graphics |
| 15:31.13 | mirchael | Is any way to load ia32 (i386, i586) linux module with amd64 (x86_64) linux kernel of same release version? |
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| 15:34.25 | jmcnaught | mirchael: there is no ia32 module, but if you need to run 32-bit software it's pretty straight forward: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
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| 15:35.00 | jmcnaught | williamsthr: I'm sure someone will help if they can if you show us some errors or logs in a paste. |
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| 15:35.57 | RadoS | williamsthr, I'm no Xorg "pro", have you flipped through "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see obvious error msgs yourself? |
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| 15:36.35 | mirchael | jmcnaught: With loading 32-bit software on 64-bit kernel (ia32 on amd64), there is no problem, I know. |
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| 15:37.13 | jmcnaught | mirchael: it's not done with ia32 anymore, it's done with multiarch, that wiki page should fill you in on the details. |
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| 15:38.12 | williamsthr | @jmcnaught @radoS Seems to be something along the lines of: "Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices" |
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| 15:42.33 | mirchael | jmcnaught: I already read about multiarch. Several libc and multiatch packaging, can not help me with kernel module loading. |
| 15:43.14 | jmcnaught | You're trying to load a 32-bit module in a 64-bit kernel? |
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| 15:51.39 | mirchael | jmcnaught: yes. |
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| 15:54.51 | williamsthr | Think my CPU generation is too new for stable lol |
| 15:55.03 | williamsthr | Installed newer kernel from backports and works fine |
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| 15:58.16 | pigeta | hello |
| 15:58.34 | pigeta | have problem with audio in debia |
| 15:58.46 | pigeta | cant hear nothing |
| 15:58.58 | pigeta | just install last version |
| 15:59.05 | pigeta | :( |
| 16:00.44 | jmcnaught | !alsa checklist |
| 16:00.44 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 16:06.24 | pigeta | jmcnaught : im cecking all |
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| 16:15.05 | RadoS | williamsthr++ |
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| 16:41.02 | shreerama | gradle build fails |
| 16:41.10 | shreerama | Failed to load native library 'libnative-platform.so' for Linux amd64 |
| 16:42.04 | shreerama | in root login its working , but non root user it fails even with sudo |
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| 16:51.07 | paradizelost | hey all, i've got a fresh install of debian 10.1 and i'm trying to run the ansible debian install docs, and the apt-key command is giving me this error |
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| 16:51.32 | paradizelost | E: gnupg, gnupg2 and gnupg1 do not seem to be installed, but one of them is required for this operation |
| 16:51.53 | paradizelost | however, gpgv is installed, and trying to install any of those 3 say no installation candidate available |
| 16:51.57 | paradizelost | any ideas? |
| 16:52.13 | LtL | paradizelost: install gnupg |
| 16:52.23 | paradizelost | tried, it doesn't work, as i just said |
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| 16:53.38 | jmcnaught | What version of Debian are you using? Can you show us your sources.list in a paste? |
| 16:54.00 | LtL | paradizelost: apt show gpgv = Suggests: gnupg |
| 16:55.11 | paradizelost | https://pastebin.com/32EWwX16 |
| 16:55.29 | paradizelost | LtL i get that, but as i said. gpgv is installed, and installing any of the other 3 give me that error |
| 16:55.47 | paradizelost | 'apt-key adv' gives me that error |
| 16:56.07 | jmcnaught | paradizelost: you are missing the main repository, look at the example on this wiki page for reference: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 16:56.17 | paradizelost | this is a default install from cdrom |
| 16:56.25 | paradizelost | why would that be missing? |
| 16:56.32 | LtL | paradizelost: i believe you are missing a deb sources line |
| 16:56.45 | jmcnaught | I don't know, but you only have buster-updates and buster/updates, but not buster |
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| 16:57.00 | LtL | not deb-src but a main deb repo line |
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| 16:58.24 | LtL | paradizelost: you need deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free # contrib and non-free are optional. |
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| 17:12.11 | thiras | hello why buster doesn't have rssh package? |
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| 17:31.39 | EdePopede | looks like it's gone https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rssh |
| 17:31.44 | EdePopede | ,v rssh |
| 17:31.45 | judd | Package: rssh on amd64 -- jessie: 2.3.4-4+b1; jessie-security: 2.3.4-4+deb8u3; stretch: 2.3.4-5+deb9u4; stretch-security: 2.3.4-5+deb9u4 |
| 17:31.52 | EdePopede | no sign of life after stretch |
| 17:34.00 | EdePopede | orphaned and OPD https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=923691 |
| 17:34.01 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/923691 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: rssh -- ROM; orphaned upstream, flawed security model»; severity: normal; opened: 2019-03-03; last modified: 2019-04-02. |
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| 17:45.21 | adu | I have a question about system groups: audio, dialout, dip, plugdev, netdev, video, voice |
| 17:45.29 | adu | how are they implemented? |
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| 17:45.36 | greycat | by the /etc/group file |
| 17:45.56 | greycat | and by the line in /etc/nsswitch.conf that tells libc to use the /etc/group file |
| 17:46.00 | adu | I mean what do they protect, and how do they protect it? |
| 17:46.17 | adu | putting myself in one of these groups seems to have no effect |
| 17:46.39 | greycat | find /dev -group audio -ls |
| 17:47.21 | greycat | But there's *other* stuff that also gives access to the audio devices based on your login "seat". The group-based permission system is kinda obsolete at this point. |
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| 17:48.05 | adu | The only non-root device is owned by root:tty |
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| 17:48.17 | greycat | You have no sound hardware at all? |
| 17:48.28 | adu | This is on a server |
| 17:48.32 | greycat | unicorn:~$ find /dev -group audio -print | wc -l |
| 17:48.32 | greycat | 15 |
| 17:48.34 | greycat | ... |
| 17:48.47 | greycat | ... well, duh, obviously if you have NO AUDIO HARDWARE, what did you even *ask* for? |
| 17:49.00 | adu | I asked because I want to know how it works |
| 17:49.08 | greycat | Then check on your desktop system insetad. |
| 17:49.29 | adu | so the groups are for the group-owner of /dev nodes |
| 17:49.57 | greycat | That one is. Each one is a special snowflake. You've already got me angry over just one. I'm not going to research any more. Do your own research. |
| 17:50.03 | dD_ | I'm having trouble with a server, seems like it boots fine but after a while all of the services start giving me problems. Can't ssh into it, but I used the management NIC to check into it and this is what it looks like right now: https://i.imgur.com/bmsqbEg.png, does this sound like a permission error? Or what could be happening? Once I reboot it's fine for a couple of days or so and it happens |
| 17:50.04 | dD_ | again |
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| 17:50.12 | adu | so, for example a server with only tty devices wouldn't need audio and video groups |
| 17:50.25 | greycat | DO. NOT. REMOVE. GROUPS. |
| 17:50.43 | greycat | *plonk* |
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| 17:57.32 | dob1 | well, why installing git-cola it install modemmanger and usb-modemswitch... |
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| 17:57.55 | dob1 | ok no problema, but a bit strange |
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| 17:59.09 | greycat | you could try "aptitude why modemmanager" (or whatever the correct spelling is) to see a reverse dependency/suggestion tree |
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| 18:00.23 | n_1-c_k | dD_, my guess is a dying disk. |
| 18:00.35 | dob1 | python3-qtpy |
| 18:00.55 | dD_ | n_1-c_k: disk is new :/ |
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| 18:02.19 | greycat | modemmanager might be the Kevin Bacon of Debian. I've got 6 degrees^W steps to modemmanager, starting from mpv. |
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| 18:03.10 | greycat | mpv -> youtube-dl -> phantomjs -> libqt5webkit5 -> libqt5positioning5 -> geoclue-2.0 -> modemmanager |
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| 18:03.44 | dob1 | ok but why a lot of packages depends of it ? |
| 18:03.46 | greycat | 4 out of 6 are Recommends |
| 18:03.53 | dD_ | I'm getting this during reboot, also look like disk errors, do you think they're related? https://i.imgur.com/qBmESSL.png https://i.imgur.com/Rh0Y3SE.png |
| 18:04.05 | greycat | *shrug* I have no idea what it is or what it does, and don't really care enough to find out |
| 18:04.14 | greycat | is it really large or something? |
| 18:04.54 | dob1 | greycat, no, but it is a service. you can disable it but not so good |
| 18:05.26 | greycat | what service is it? |
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| 18:05.49 | greycat | oh, it's capitalized in ps output. Modem not modem. |
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| 18:06.20 | greycat | Well, it's only a Recommends for me. If that's also the case for you, just remove it. If you want. |
| 18:07.52 | dob1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:08.48 | dff | how would i go about to set sleep to encrypted my LVM and purge the key from ram? |
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| 18:10.50 | r3 | dD_: I would perform some basic maintenance on the box, reseat the RAM, make sure the HD is well mounted and that all the fans are performing. I've had a server which was throwing odd errors after a while and reseating everything worked. |
| 18:11.07 | dob1 | I am a bit confused, apt-get install git-cola installed modemmanager, apt-get remove modemmanager removes modemmanager, then apt-get autoremove removes the other packages but git-cola is still there... I was sure that apt-get install doesn't install unecessary packages, at least time ago if I am not wrong |
| 18:11.36 | r3 | dD_: maybe run an offline SMART disk check on the drive |
| 18:11.39 | greycat | again, use "aptitude why" to see what *else* is holding a package from being eligible for autoremove, if you ever use autoremove |
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| 18:13.03 | jaesreswrkk | Hi |
| 18:13.06 | jaesreswrkk | Stupid question |
| 18:13.22 | jaesreswrkk | I keep reading that when setting up mariadb you should not change the root password because it affects how debian handles logs |
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| 18:13.37 | jaesreswrkk | Is this correct? |
| 18:14.55 | dD_ | r3 thanks a lot. Quick question: what does a ram reset accomplish? |
| 18:15.39 | dob1 | greycat, so it's a recommends, why apt is installing recommends ? it was always the default behaviour? |
| 18:15.47 | greycat | yes |
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| 18:16.55 | r3 | dD_: well sometimes when the board is new and RAM gets put in, that interface can change over time through heat and age and vibration. Reseating the RAM just insures there is a good connection and no cruft in there. I would swipe it with some IPA to be safe. Same goes with HDs. You want to check off what is simple to fix first, before deciding that a piece of hardware is bad. |
| 18:17.17 | dob1 | greycat, ah ok... I was wrong |
| 18:17.40 | dob1 | and infact apt-get install --no-install-recommends git-cola doesn't install modemmanager |
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| 18:22.41 | jaesreswrkk | @greycat you have any insight into my issue? |
| 18:23.05 | r3 | dD_: and it couldn't hurt to run memtest or something offline from a diagnostic boot USB. Hopefully you can get it to limp along until the next scheduled downtime :\ |
| 18:24.56 | jmcnaught | jaesreswrkk: if you are asking about root passwords for mariadb I'm pretty sure there's a note about it in /usr/share/doc/mariadb-server-10.3/README.Debian.gz |
| 18:25.02 | jjakob | shrinking the root fs and LV with an initramfs script - possible? |
| 18:26.42 | jjakob | eg this? https://github.com/szepeviktor/debian-server-tools/blob/master/debian-setup/debian-resizefs.sh |
| 18:28.09 | jjakob | hoping this doesn't crash the server that's on a remote site - I can ILO into it if it does |
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| 18:38.02 | dD_ | r3: sorry about the ignorance, but what's IPA? Can't find anything related to RAM and IPA |
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| 18:39.34 | r3 | dD_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol ... a good cleaner for electronic bits |
| 18:42.07 | dff | yeah, dont use indian pale ale. |
| 18:43.27 | dD_ | r3: oh! Thanks :/ |
| 18:43.34 | miskatonic | not to be confused with palemoon |
| 18:44.07 | r3 | no worries. I shouldn't have used that initialism, but rather specified it or another solvent by name |
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| 18:46.10 | jjakob | not to be confused with FreeIPA |
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| 18:47.30 | r3 | dD_: it's less of an issue now that ribbon cables aren't the norm, but do check your cables and connections, to and from the motherboard, HD, powersupply and be sure none are pinched or damaged. It could just need a good cleaning out with canned air! I'm sure there are plenty of resources via google/youtube to show these procedures. Good luck! :) |
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| 18:47.44 | jjakob | OT: why is isopropyl used for electronics rather than ethanol? |
| 18:48.28 | dD_ | So when you said resetting the ram, you meant taking it out, cleaning it, and putting it back in right? You're not talking about resetting NVRam or something done in the OS right? |
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| 18:56.01 | miskatonic | is isopropyl more polar than ethanol? |
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| 19:13.54 | jjakob | some site says ethanol is a good solvent for polar compounds, vs isopropyl is good for nonpolar compounds |
| 19:15.02 | JPT | That sounds more like a question you would throw at chemists. :) |
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| 19:15.41 | JPT | Maybe the people in ##chemistry can help you out way better |
| 19:15.42 | greycat | maybe ##hardware would be appropriate, if it's about use of alcohol in cleaning electronics |
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| 19:23.08 | diogenes_ | Hello guys, today at work, out of nowhere, i suddenly started to have huge problems with my ethernet connection. All other connections worked fine and ever other distros on the same machine ethernet was fine, only on Debian it worked for like 20 seconds after i do systemctl restart NetworkManager and then you couldn't ping anything. I couldn't even google anything, any ideas what to look for? |
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| 19:27.32 | jjakob | JPT: already in ## chemistry :) |
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| 19:27.54 | jjakob | diogenes_: ip -c a |
| 19:28.48 | diogenes_ | jjakob, i'll try when i am at work tomorrow, what other steps of troubleshooting? |
| 19:28.54 | jjakob | while it works and while it doesn't, and compare them |
| 19:29.21 | jjakob | or 'journalctl -u NetworkManager -f' and follow the log |
| 19:29.47 | diogenes_ | jjakob, ok thanks, noted. |
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| 19:43.18 | karlpinc | diogenes_: I'd start at the bottom. Switch the ethernet cable to a different port on the switch. Swap out the cable. |
| 19:43.55 | diogenes_ | karlpinc, i dual boot, and when i boot in another distro, the ethernet works fine. |
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| 19:44.32 | karlpinc | diogenes_: Look at dmesg and the logs then. (But _something_ must have changed.) |
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| 19:45.28 | karlpinc | diogenes_: Myself, I always find networkmanager to be trouble and so don't use it. Maybe there's more than one networking setup? |
| 19:45.44 | diogenes_ | karlpinc, one detail, not sure whether it's connected but i was playing around with virt-manager then i purged it and on the next day i started to have this, not sure if there is the cinnection to it. |
| 19:46.41 | karlpinc | diogenes_: There's also looking at "ip addr", and "ip route". That'd tell you if your nic is up, etc. |
| 19:47.06 | diogenes_ | ok i'll check it out tomorrow, thanks for the hint. |
| 19:47.27 | karlpinc | diogenes_: Could be you've got some virtual bridge or something leftover from virtualness (I don't know what virt-manager does, but...) |
| 19:47.36 | greycat | or the cable got kicked |
| 19:47.49 | karlpinc | greycat: He claims it works when booting into another distro. |
| 19:48.05 | greycat | that doesn't rule out intermittent hardware issues |
| 19:48.08 | diogenes_ | yes it works on the same machine with another distro. |
| 19:48.23 | karlpinc | hates bad ports on switches |
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| 19:49.24 | karlpinc | If it didn't "used to work" then it could be firmware, but that does not sound right in this case. |
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| 19:50.19 | greycat | For any problem that includes the words "out of nowhere" and "suddenly started" with no accompanying software changes, you have to consider hardware as a possible source of trouble. |
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| 19:51.57 | diogenes_ | graingert, i have switch the cable to many ports on the router and still the same, wanted to change the modem already but decided to try on a different distro first and i was shocked that it worked fine there. |
| 19:52.11 | graingert | diogenes_: nice |
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| 19:52.24 | graingert | probably a hardware issue though |
| 19:52.45 | diogenes_ | graingert, sorry it was meant for greycat :) |
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| 19:53.59 | jjakob | I don't have trouble with NetworkManager, just don't make bridges with it |
| 19:54.25 | jjakob | I already said monitor 'journalctl -u NetworkManager -f' |
| 19:56.09 | HelloShitty | Evening... I have a situation I'm not sure how to workaround |
| 19:56.38 | HelloShitty | I have a DVD-rom that I want to check if it contains anything in it |
| 19:56.55 | HelloShitty | but when I put it inside the DVD-Rom, nothing happens |
| 19:57.17 | HelloShitty | so I try to go via command line and I check the possible mount points inside /media |
| 19:57.38 | HelloShitty | I can see 'cdrom', 'cdrw' but none of these folders contains anything |
| 19:57.55 | HelloShitty | So I start thinking this might not be the correct mount point |
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| 19:58.25 | HelloShitty | I start searching and I find with 'lsblk' that the mount point is a folder named 'rom' |
| 19:58.44 | HelloShitty | but it doesn't tells me where is this folder |
| 19:59.05 | greycat | *sigh* Desktop Environment users. |
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| 19:59.34 | HelloShitty | then, inside fstab there is a line to mount the device but in a specified folder but there's also antything inside this folder |
| 19:59.36 | greycat | if you *don't* use a desktop environment, then it's just so much simpler. instead of waiting and hoping and praying and wondering, you simply try to mount it *yourself* |
| 20:00.54 | HelloShitty | I use the terminal a lot... But not at 100% and checking DVDRoms is not one of the most frequent thing nowadays |
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| 20:01.10 | HelloShitty | so it's pretty much forgotten where thouse mount points should be |
| 20:01.25 | greycat | have you tried "mkdir /x; mount /dev/cdrom /x" yet? |
| 20:01.51 | HelloShitty | The DVD is mounted in that 'rom' folder. Can I just 'remount it somewhere else without unmounting it from 'rom' first? |
| 20:02.29 | greycat | You want to be a Desktop Environment user. OK. You get to wait for someone who knows how your particular Desktop Environment works. You didn't even say which one it is, so I'm guessing GNOME 3. |
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| 20:08.32 | jmcnaught | HelloShitty: where does the 'mount' command say that the DVD is mounted? |
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| 20:09.11 | HelloShitty | I'm sorry... I'm using Plasma Desktop |
| 20:10.22 | HelloShitty | mount command shows nothing related to cdrom or dvdrom |
| 20:10.50 | HelloShitty | but don't worry... I'm a desktop user |
| 20:10.59 | HelloShitty | :| |
| 20:11.11 | greycat | so instead of *trying* the command I gave you, you're just going to wait for someone to tell you to click a hundred different obscure places |
| 20:11.16 | HelloShitty | I'll figure it out somehow |
| 20:11.41 | HelloShitty | I asked a question about that command greycat |
| 20:11.49 | greycat | ... |
| 20:11.55 | HelloShitty | I didn't even answered. But no worries, I'll try it anyways |
| 20:12.01 | greycat | Nope. I'm done trying. |
| 20:12.04 | jmcnaught | HelloShitty: if mount does not like the DVD then it is not already mounted. |
| 20:12.04 | HelloShitty | just a sec |
| 20:12.12 | jmcnaught | ^like^list. |
| 20:13.04 | HelloShitty | jmcnaught: it is already mounted |
| 20:13.19 | HelloShitty | that I know, and I also know it's in some 'rom' folder |
| 20:13.34 | HelloShitty | I just don't know the full path of this folder 'rom' |
| 20:13.57 | HelloShitty | I said I ran 'lsblk' and it show's device 'sr0' is mounted in 'rom' |
| 20:14.28 | jmcnaught | It should say in the output of mount. Use "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" to make a paste for us to see. |
| 20:14.41 | HelloShitty | oh, wait. It's not 'rom' folder |
| 20:15.01 | greycat | I *knew* we would end up reading things for him. |
| 20:15.19 | HelloShitty | 'rom' is for TYPE property... |
| 20:15.23 | HelloShitty | Mount point is empty |
| 20:15.37 | HelloShitty | I mean, the 'lsblk' output |
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| 20:16.16 | HelloShitty | https://termbin.com/4nuq |
| 20:17.10 | jmcnaught | HelloShitty: okay, it's not mounted. "mount /dev/cdrom /mnt" as root should mount it at /mnt. If you want to do it without root, "man udisksctl" |
| 20:19.18 | HelloShitty | it doesn't matter that this is a dvd-rw? I can use /dev/cdrom anyways? |
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| 20:19.55 | jmcnaught | HelloShitty: if /dev/cdrom is not a symlink to /dev/sr0 then just use /dev/sr0 instead. |
| 20:20.23 | HelloShitty | ok |
| 20:20.37 | HelloShitty | I have this line in fstab. Shouldn't it work out of the box? |
| 20:20.39 | HelloShitty | # DVD-Rom mount point |
| 20:20.50 | HelloShitty | ./dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 20:59.31 | zodd | ter would be a vhost |
| 20:59.47 | zodd | sorry |
| 21:01.14 | gordonfish | [apt -t ... search ...] Is it possible to search both stable and buster-backports with one command? Multiple -t options don't seem to do it, last one simply used. Also tried -t '*' but that shows buster-backports, oddly enough. |
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| 21:09.47 | xjsx | I have debian stretch and I want to install xxhash on it. It's not in apt. Which backports version do I use on stretch to access it? |
| 21:10.40 | jmcnaught | ,v xxhash |
| 21:10.42 | judd | Package: xxhash on amd64 -- buster: 0.6.5-2; bullseye: 0.7.3-2; sid: 0.7.3-2 |
| 21:10.59 | xjsx | can i install sid, buster or bullseye on stretch? |
| 21:11.11 | jmcnaught | xjsx: no you can not. |
| 21:11.32 | xjsx | so it's only compile by source for this one? |
| 21:11.35 | jmcnaught | the best solution is to upgrade to buster following the instructions in the release notes. |
| 21:12.03 | jmcnaught | If you want to stay on stretch, you could try backporting it yourself |
| 21:12.11 | jmcnaught | !ssb |
| 21:12.12 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 21:22.43 | dacencora | hey guys. I backported a new kernel, and now my nvidia won't work. I know you typically have to rebuild nvidia against a new kernel. Does the nvidia-driver package work with linux-5.5 |
| 21:22.47 | dacencora | ? |
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| 21:23.58 | keebler | Does anyone have a good example of a Tri/Quad - 2K Monitor Setup where HiDPI Scaling and themes work perfectly? Specifically in Fluxbox/OpenBox, but open to anything at this point. |
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| 21:26.29 | greycat | dacencora: install the headers that match your kernel. They're build as a separate package, linux-headers-* |
| 21:27.13 | dacencora | greycat: oh cool! Are they under buster-backports? |
| 21:27.38 | greycat | wherever you got the kernel image from |
| 21:27.43 | dacencora | OK cool |
| 21:28.08 | keebler | https://github.com/muhkuh-sys/org.muhkuh.tools-webui.git |
| 21:28.10 | keebler | oops |
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| 21:28.55 | dacencora | uh oh just got a bad return status on nvidia when installing those headers |
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| 21:50.44 | darsie | Is debian ok for an offline 32 bit machine (Intel Celeron M 353, Eee PC 4G, 2 GB RAM)? |
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| 21:51.25 | dvs | darsie, the minimum is a Pentium II so I don't know where a Celeron M sits. |
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| 21:51.26 | darsie | With a lightweight desktop environment. |
| 21:51.52 | darsie | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_M#Dothan |
| 21:52.28 | darsie | They evolved from the core of the last Pentium IIIâbranded CPU by adding the front-side bus (FSB) interface of Pentium 4, an improved instruction decoding and issuing front end, improved branch prediction, SSE2 support, and a much larger cache. |
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| 21:58.12 | xjsx | can i upgrade stretch -> latest without issue? |
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| 21:58.45 | annadane | yes |
| 21:58.49 | annadane | !release notes |
| 21:58.50 | dpkg | The release notes for Debian 10 "Buster" are at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ . See also <stretch->buster>, <buster install guide> |
| 21:59.09 | xjsx | !stretch->buster |
| 21:59.16 | xjsx | stretch->buster |
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| 21:59.21 | annadane | dpkg, stretch->buster |
| 21:59.21 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/JFKc . TL;DR: In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "stretch" to "buster", remove lines like stretch-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade |
| 21:59.32 | annadane | the -> comments are a bit weird as they're not activated by ! |
| 21:59.38 | annadane | s/comments/factoids |
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| 22:07.01 | useless-eater | Hi guys, how can I autostart a x program for a user without logging in with password? |
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| 22:16.29 | nkuttler | useless-eater: which program? |
| 22:17.40 | vlt | useless-eater: Have a look at nodm. |
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| 22:20.31 | sney | nodm is discontinued but the guy who made it has a website explaining how to do the same thing |
| 22:21.29 | wr | on my /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d i have some entries debian-archive-jessie-automatic.gpg since i'm on buster should these be deleted? |
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| 22:35.16 | somiaj | wr: they probably just come with the debian keyring, run 'dpkg -S /etc/path/to/file' what package owns that file? |
| 22:37.13 | wr | somiaj, debian-archive-keyring |
| 22:37.57 | somiaj | wr: As I thought, they are part of the full debian keyring, although you may not need that key, others might |
| 22:38.01 | somiaj | I would just leave them alone. |
| 22:38.08 | wr | ok |
| 22:38.25 | petn-randall | useless-eater: I'd break it up in two steps: a) get your login manager to automatically login. b) automatically run an app. |
| 22:38.38 | petn-randall | useless-eater: What you're looking for is also called "kiosk mode". |
| 22:39.31 | somiaj | systemd can't run a user unit without login? That seems strange, also would a cron @reboot job do the trick too? |
| 22:39.44 | somiaj | (here i'm thinking non gui app to run in the background) |
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| 22:40.03 | cortexman | we built a shadow MIC and hacked your bone conductors; we are faking all of the outputs; if you come up against us you're going to see skulls pop. remove your bone conductors: 5% lidocaine OTC, exacto knife, bottle of whiskey. Write down everything you know about unchecked WMDs in a text editor and save the file. |
| 22:40.13 | somiaj | oh autostart an x program, yea totally missread that. |
| 22:40.30 | somiaj | useless-eater: what is your use case, what x program do you want to start without logging in? |
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| 22:41.01 | useless-eater | petn-randall, somiaj thanks |
| 22:42.10 | useless-eater | I think I'm getting somewhere now, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/401759/automatically-login-on-debian-9-2-1-command-line/401798#401798 |
| 22:42.39 | useless-eater | so now Ill just start "startx $command ; poweroff" or something |
| 22:42.45 | somiaj | useless-eater: so your actual goal is to automatically login to x? |
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| 22:43.12 | useless-eater | yes, then start up a program, and when program is closed, shutdown |
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| 22:43.50 | somiaj | useless-eater: What is the goal of this to boot up a system, run a single x command, then shutdown? |
| 22:45.13 | sney | shutdown when the program is exited. clearly some kind of a kiosk. |
| 22:45.43 | sney | or maybe digital signage. |
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| 22:48.00 | useless-eater | somiaj: yes |
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| 22:49.06 | useless-eater | sney, somiaj: trying to run a virtual machine with kvm as if running on hardware |
| 22:51.33 | useless-eater | some systemd wizardry would probably be better, but idk how to work that with an x application |
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| 22:58.31 | jmcnaught | useless-eater: I did something like this years ago, I can't find my notes about it though. If I recall correctly I configured Xorg to not allow switching to ttys and certain keypresses. The computer was shut down by its power button. |
| 22:58.53 | useless-eater | nice |
| 22:59.55 | jmcnaught | useless-eater: the Windows guest ran off of an LVM snapshot of a volume containing a fresh install. A new snapshot would be created when Debian booted, resetting Windows back to a fresh install. |
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| 23:02.03 | useless-eater | ooh cool, maybe I will have to do something similar. But this is freedos 0.o and using raw. I could probably use qcow2 CoW, but not sure, have not tried yet :) |
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| 23:10.39 | annadane | moo |
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| 23:10.49 | dvs | ??? |
| 23:10.58 | annadane | qcow2, silly |
| 23:11.02 | dvs | !apt-get moo |
| 23:11.03 | dpkg | ...."Have you mooed today?"... |
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| 23:38.07 | norayr | hello debian. if /etc/debian-version shows stretch/sid - what does it mean? |
| 23:38.09 | norayr | sid or stretch ? |
| 23:38.10 | norayr | (: |
| 23:38.22 | sney | that means you're on some derivative that was forked from sid when stretch was testing |
| 23:38.33 | sney | (or a really old stretch install) |
| 23:38.36 | norayr | hm, /etc/issue says Debian GNU/Linux stretch/sid \n \l |
| 23:38.54 | norayr | i think that's a really old stretch install |
| 23:38.59 | norayr | and sources.list says stretch. |
| 23:39.03 | sney | testing and sid always show the current testing codename and sid. for instance, I'm on a bullseye machine here, so it says bullseye/sid |
| 23:39.44 | norayr | so i'd like to update it, it accepts both apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:40.00 | norayr | first wants to download 500 mb of packages, second - 2gb. |
| 23:40.05 | norayr | but i did not change stretch in sources.list |
| 23:40.24 | norayr | i wonder if someone changed it, but did not update? |
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| 23:40.50 | sney | sounds about right. you'll go all the way from testing stretch to debian 9.12 |
| 23:41.01 | norayr | with dist-upgrade? |
| 23:41.08 | sney | yes. feel free to pastebin your sources.list if you want to make sure. |
| 23:42.41 | norayr | https://pastebin.com/gGYG48Bj |
| 23:42.43 | norayr | thakn you! |
| 23:43.23 | sney | yep, that's stretch all right. |
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| 23:44.07 | norayr | thank you so much! |
| 23:44.24 | sney | np, come back if you have any more questions. |
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| 23:45.26 | norayr | afterwards i'd like to update it to buster. |
| 23:45.53 | norayr | so i after reboot i change stretch in sources.list to buster, and do apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade again? |
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| 23:46.38 | sney | yes. make sure you are updated all the way to current stretch (debian_version will say 9.12) before starting the upgrade to buster. |
| 23:47.32 | sney | oh, and use the 'apt' command instead of 'apt-get'. apt-get doesn't support changing releases anymore. apt update, apt upgrade, apt dist-upgrade |
| 23:49.40 | norayr | oh thanks. but now apt-get dist-upgrade goes well. probably because it's not actually in releases. |
| 23:49.46 | norayr | or because it's old. |
| 23:49.56 | sney | that's for when you change from stretch to buster |
| 23:50.50 | norayr | thanks! |
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| 23:53.41 | prompt32 | for me 9=>10 dint really went too smooth, with repo change, come up with a bootable system, bt very big, and too much manual uninstall/install to get everything up-to-date ... |
| 23:54.34 | prompt32 | on the other hand 7->8 , 8->9, was a nice termina poem !!! |
| 23:54.52 | sney | it generally works. sometimes there are issues, and that's what #debian is for. YMMV. |
| 23:55.19 | lawr3nce | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_dmc_ver1_07.bin for module i915 |
| 23:55.29 | lawr3nce | I get a bunch of these messages |
| 23:55.48 | lawr3nce | for multiple many bin files for i915 module |
| 23:55.56 | lawr3nce | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8125a-3.fw for module r8169 |
| 23:55.57 | lawr3nce | this too |
| 23:56.05 | lawr3nce | wth is this |
| 23:56.14 | sney | lawr3nce: if your video works, you probably don't need any of the i915 firmware. if your network works, you don't need the r8169 firmware either. |
| 23:56.29 | sney | !warning |
| 23:56.29 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 23:56.31 | prompt32 | sney, yes, i'm proud too, i use 7>8>9>10 on the same OS/Disk for many years. i change to clean 10 install 2 months before |
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| 23:59.01 | lawr3nce | sney, I'd want to boot up without any warning/error message |
| 23:59.06 | lawr3nce | and to fast up everything |
| 23:59.16 | lawr3nce | like making a "silent boot" with grub... |
| 23:59.23 | lawr3nce | what kernel parameters should I use? |
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| 23:59.37 | sney | it won't "fast up" anything to include firmware, but they are in firmware-misc-nonfree and firmware-realtek respectively |
