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| 00:57.26 | foul_owl | I was forced to reboot when my file manager choked on a bad SD card. Now after rebooting, my video card is screwed up. The whole bottom half of my screen starts flickering when I move an x window to a certain region of the screen. |
| 00:57.41 | foul_owl | Any other window doesn't trigger this |
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| 01:55.51 | kreyren | help-wanted https://gist.github.com/Kreyren/ce7b58aa27810f651f9f294c8fc8cfb3 |
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| 03:13.03 | alexrelis | says hi |
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| 04:24.41 | nvz | foul_owl: sounds to me like you may have a power issue |
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| 04:26.15 | nvz | foul_owl: unless you believe in unrelated coincidences.. power issues could cause a filesystem or sd card to malfunction, as well as a video card.. and any number of seemingly random, seemingly unrelated things |
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| 04:34.18 | jim | hi... what name does debian give to a package that you can install, but has no content, instead, has a depend list of packages? |
| 04:34.29 | bigfluff | meta-package? |
| 04:34.52 | jim | ok, sorta related question: |
| 04:36.37 | jim | what name does debian give to a package that asserts you have a choice of which package to install that would satisfy some requirements, like: exim, sendmail, qmail, postfix, that might "provides: mta"? |
| 04:38.44 | Nipah | jim: what do the intertubes say? |
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| 04:39.24 | jim | Nipah, they're calling both a "virtual package" |
| 04:39.43 | jim | so I'm trying to resolve the ambiguity |
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| 04:41.49 | jim | I thought intertubes were for going down river rapids |
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| 04:45.27 | bigfluff | Hmmm, not sure |
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| 05:07.52 | Nipah | jim: al gore invented it |
| 05:07.56 | Nipah | also |
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| 05:30.27 | jim | algore invented innertubes?! |
| 05:31.01 | nvz | a virtual package is one that doesnt actually exist.. a meta-package is one that is merely there for depending upon other packages, like the ones equivs creates |
| 05:31.26 | jim | nvz, thanks :) |
| 05:31.55 | nvz | virtual packages are there to allow general dependencies through provides directives like mta, web browser, etc.. |
| 05:32.55 | nvz | virtual doesn't exists, is only referred to by other packages |
| 05:33.05 | nvz | meta just contains metadata, no actual data |
| 05:33.56 | nvz | firefox can provide a web browser, which can satisfy the virtual dependency on a web browser for other packages |
| 05:34.12 | nvz | the "web browser" is the virtual package in such a case |
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| 07:43.21 | sussudio | remote logging kept functioning after the disk in my router pc went offline due to the heatwave... |
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| 08:52.00 | KOLANICH | Hi everyone. Why don't we have the latest llvm+clang in the official repos? |
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| 10:52.13 | ScottHDev | Hello, is it the right place to ask about debian packaging |
| 10:52.15 | ScottHDev | , |
| 10:52.17 | ScottHDev | ? |
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| 10:56.22 | NetTerminalGene | ScottHDev, just ask |
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| 10:56.26 | anonliux | hello |
| 10:56.30 | ScottHDev | ok |
| 10:56.45 | NetTerminalGene | anonliux, hi. sup |
| 10:58.04 | ScottHDev | I'm packaging my own library which is configured with meson-build. So far the build works and I get two .deb files, but there both empty according to `apt-file list <deb file>` |
| 10:58.18 | ScottHDev | *they are |
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| 11:01.01 | ScottHDev | I used dh_make, and debuild -us -uc -b |
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| 11:42.36 | mzajc | I have a slight dependency problem on Debian bullseye/sid: I want to update my system, but it wants to also remove ungoogled-chromium. This is because ungoogled-chromium breaks libavcodec58=7:4.3-2, which appears to be the latest version of both sid and bullseye releases. This is nothing major, but it also means that I can't upgrade ffmpeg, which might cause issues in the future. |
| 11:43.02 | quadrathoch24 | !debian-next |
| 11:43.02 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. See also https://wiki.debian.org/IRC and https://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc |
| 11:43.06 | quadrathoch24 | mzajc ^ |
| 11:43.47 | mzajc | oh, sorry, I always forget for some reason |
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| 14:52.31 | Jmabsd | I reinstalled my Debian box twice due to Radeon blackscreening on boot, either as hard kernel crash or just as blackscreen. I'm contemplating one more reinstall now, before giving up or something. Do you have any suggestions for how to make Debian stable, i guess with kernel BPO-5.4 is better, actually work? |
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| 14:53.08 | Jmabsd | It appears to me that maybe a 5.5 kernel upgrade killed the system, also after reverting to 5.4 |
| 14:54.40 | Jmabsd | This is an 8 years old Xeon mac desktop however it's a 64bit BIOS/EFI system so should not be a hardware issue, supposedly |
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| 14:55.45 | Jmabsd | one Vega 64, and then one 2012 high-end card :) I only keep one plugged at a time |
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| 14:57.02 | quadrathoch24 | Jmabsd so you have issues with 4.19 or why the bpo kernel? |
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| 14:59.25 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch24: i thought for latest KVM security updates i should use 5.4 |
| 14:59.29 | Jmabsd | does that make sense? |
| 14:59.43 | Jmabsd | also for latest supposed Radeon stability |
| 15:00.26 | quadrathoch24 | Jmabsd what radeon gpu do you have? |
| 15:00.40 | quadrathoch24 | as security issues are backported |
| 15:00.57 | quadrathoch24 | (as 4.19 is a LTS release) |
| 15:01.50 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch24: i have a Vega64. also alternatively i have a 2012 high end Radeon something |
| 15:02.01 | Jmabsd | i see your point that the 4.19 LTS kernel should be fine, good point. |
| 15:03.36 | quadrathoch24 | Jmabsd so with the vega64 in it, it could make sense as it is new enough where the performance gets an upgrade, so now it depends on what you do with that gpu ;) |
| 15:07.22 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd did you install the blobs for those gpus btw? just making sure why you got issues with debian |
| 15:07.22 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch24: mostly just the 2d console. :) |
| 15:07.26 | Jmabsd | maybe some OpenCL later |
| 15:07.42 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: i only installed nonfree firmware packages, that was all |
| 15:07.55 | Jmabsd | i can see that there miiiight be some newer version out there |
| 15:09.08 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd yeah the firmware is pretty old, but shouldnt make it so you get a blackscreen |
| 15:09.20 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd do you have some log for those? |
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| 15:25.07 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: tell me log command. i'll take a step now to make the machine SSH:able after boot with the black screen |
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| 15:26.20 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd let's see what 'journalctl -p err -b' would give you |
| 15:26.39 | redbeard72 | Would anyone be willing to help me trouble shoot issues with gparted? |
| 15:26.56 | annadane | !ask to ask |
| 15:26.56 | dpkg | Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! If you're unsure how to phrase your question, ask me about <ask>. |
| 15:26.58 | quadrathoch2 | what is your issue? redbeard72 |
| 15:27.39 | redbeard72 | when I click on /dev/sda2 it say staus Busy(at leas one logical partition is mounted) |
| 15:27.47 | redbeard72 | and I went and umounted everything |
| 15:29.52 | quadrathoch2 | did you copy anything or having a directory open? redbeard72 |
| 15:30.19 | redbeard72 | I'm on a debian live boot disk. Does that answer your question? |
| 15:32.11 | quadrathoch2 | redbeard72 and you want to unmount the usb stick where the live disk is on? |
| 15:33.04 | Ashleee | lsof 2>/dev/null | grep "/mnt/wherever_is_the_thing_mounted" is a good start |
| 15:33.12 | redbeard72 | (Its a boot CD). I want to add some partitions to my hard drive, but all the buttons for gparted are greyed out. |
| 15:34.59 | jim | redbeard72, not necessarily :) you could have partitions mounted in a live boot of debian |
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| 15:35.56 | redbeard72 | Ashleee I just did your command and the terminal printed out a bunch of data I don't know what to do with. |
| 15:36.09 | redbeard72 | jim pretty sure I didn't do that ;) |
| 15:36.16 | jim | ok ;) |
| 15:37.34 | jim | my only point is, it may or may not be possible to reason from "I have a live image booted" to "I don't have partitions mounted" |
| 15:38.23 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: mce: [Hardware Error]: CPU 1: Machine Check: 0 Bank 8: ea1a6240008000b1 |
| 15:38.41 | Jmabsd | mce: [Hardware Error]: TSC 0 MISC 40000 mce: [Hardware Error]: PROCESSOR 0:206c2 TIME 1593272170 SOCKET 1 APIC 20 microcode 1f systemd[1]: Failed to start Raise network interfaces. |
| 15:39.58 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: so looking at it now it seems that the Debian is hard-crashing in about 50% of cases |
| 15:40.03 | Jmabsd | the other 50% it boots with blackscreen |
| 15:40.13 | Jmabsd | but in the hard-crash case, it still responds to ctrl+alt+del which is weird |
| 15:41.30 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: here's my /var/log/dpkg.log https://pastebin.com/SAQar1bz |
| 15:41.35 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd did you test it with another distribution? as this sounds like a hardware issue |
| 15:41.50 | Jmabsd | did not test any other Linux distro |
| 15:42.08 | jim | could mean somethign is running (but ctrl-alt-del is usually not responded to unless you're in a text console) |
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| 15:43.12 | quadrathoch2 | you could look at 'mcelog --ascii' Jmabsd |
| 15:43.15 | redbeard72 | The other piece of info I have is that when I try to run the debian installer it doesn't notice my existing 40 gigabyte filesystem on disk |
| 15:43.32 | redbeard72 | (my goal is to run multiple instance of debian on separate partitions) |
| 15:43.48 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: i don't have mcelog |
| 15:43.59 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd is it possible to install? |
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| 15:44.12 | banshi | hello all |
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| 15:44.35 | quadrathoch2 | oh it's not available :/ Jmabsd |
| 15:45.08 | banshi | I am trying to install package, but cannot succeed coz of: Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.16.0-7-amd64 cannot be found. |
| 15:45.24 | banshi | What to do? |
| 15:45.36 | banshi | Please install the linux-headers-3.16.0-7-amd64 package, |
| 15:45.37 | banshi | or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located |
| 15:45.48 | quadrathoch2 | banshi which debian version are you using? |
| 15:46.05 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: ok i'll try, sec |
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| 15:48.57 | banshi | quadrathoch2: debian 8 |
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| 15:50.39 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: collectd2-core was not installed |
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| 15:51.36 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd the replacement is rasdaemon |
| 15:51.48 | quadrathoch2 | banshi so did you install the headers? |
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| 15:55.33 | banshi | quadrathoch2: I have no that headers in my repos |
| 15:56.10 | banshi | I'm just trying to install wireguard vpn solution |
| 15:56.20 | quadrathoch2 | banshi, https://packages.debian.org/jessie/linux-headers-amd64 so it should be there |
| 15:56.45 | quadrathoch2 | oh, i see you are using an outdated linux kernel. maybe you should upgrade first |
| 15:57.35 | quadrathoch2 | banshi the newest one is 3.16.0-11 |
| 15:58.57 | banshi | ok, thank you |
| 15:59.02 | banshi | I'll try it |
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| 16:03.04 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: so what should i check |
| 16:04.54 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: haa haa yeah here we go, traditional driver crash with trace.. https://pastebin.com/f4aYAbq7 |
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| 16:08.59 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd, hm interesting, does it only happen with 5.4? (and btw, it should be 5.6, as that's the newest bpo kernel) |
| 16:10.57 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: uuuu... oh you're rigt, there's a 5.6 there |
| 16:10.59 | Jmabsd | shall it ry it? |
| 16:11.06 | Jmabsd | also what about download latest firmware from somewhere |
| 16:11.37 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd, i would try it for sure, just look into why it didn't update it automatically |
| 16:11.58 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd you could try that, using the firmware blobs from kernel.org would probably make sense |
| 16:12.14 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: they're "unsigned"! |
| 16:12.21 | Jmabsd | there's no "-amd64" flavor |
| 16:12.23 | Jmabsd | only "-amd64-dbg" .. |
| 16:12.28 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd oO there is |
| 16:12.45 | Jmabsd | what command do you use?? |
| 16:12.47 | quadrathoch2 | Jmabsd 'sudo apt install -t buster-backports linux-image-amd64' |
| 16:12.54 | Jmabsd | oh now there is!! |
| 16:12.55 | Jmabsd | i see |
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| 16:13.03 | Jmabsd | weird, i only had some |
| 16:13.06 | Jmabsd | aptitude update fixed it |
| 16:13.14 | quadrathoch2 | weird :/ |
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| 16:13.44 | Jmabsd | kernel.org firmware would be URL .... |
| 16:14.18 | quadrathoch2 | sorry |
| 16:14.44 | quadrathoch2 | that's the newest https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/snapshot/linux-firmware-20200619.tar.gz |
| 16:15.24 | quadrathoch2 | but I don't think that would change much _shrug_ |
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| 16:17.43 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: cool, how did you find it? |
| 16:19.28 | quadrathoch2 | take search engine looking for firmware kernel.org and then there should be a git link to it, (and then clicking on refs) |
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| 16:19.33 | quadrathoch2 | in cgit |
| 16:20.17 | Jmabsd | ..trying linux 5.6.. |
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| 16:23.04 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: Woo Linux 5.6 upgrade fixed it, the graphics on boot work!!!! so weird |
| 16:23.11 | Jmabsd | i should reboot some times tomorrow just to check it really works |
| 16:24.46 | Jmabsd | bbl |
| 16:24.58 | Jmabsd | quadrathoch2: thanks for suggesting trying with 5.6 |
| 16:25.05 | Jmabsd | 100x |
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| 18:20.06 | premoboss | hi fresh istall of debian amd64. videocard Geforce RTX 2070. debian put on place nouveau driver, but it does not fit all th resolution of display (1920x1080), so i isntall xserver-xorg-video-nvidia, the closed source video driver, then reboot. Wen OC stat again, it work but there is a "missed" part of display: like the frame of a painting, all the perimeter of the display "fall outside" the monitor. how to solve? |
| 18:20.25 | premoboss | when I start again* |
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| 19:52.32 | lifostack | i'm wondering if someone can walk me thru adding the android-studio/bin dir to my PATH, i am on debian buster and nearly OEM install and am familiar with the concept of editing the PATH but have never done it myself. |
| 19:52.44 | lifostack | also the bashrc file looks very "nuanced" in this version of debian |
| 19:52.59 | lifostack | not like it is in a "text book" type explanation of the bashrc file and editing it |
| 19:53.09 | lifostack | or if someone could point me to a video or something that would be helpful |
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| 19:54.05 | lifostack | also is it proper to edit the .bashrc of the currently logged in user, from that user account, or should you su to root and edit as root? |
| 19:54.54 | lifostack | im looking at a stackexchange question where it gives a "good and bad" way of adding to the PATH, which i am also unsure of (or the reasoning behind it) |
| 19:54.55 | lifostack | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1132247/how-to-edit-path-in-bashrc |
| 19:55.03 | lifostack | BAD export PATH="/less/important/path:/lesser/important/path" |
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| 19:55.12 | lifostack | GOOD export PATH="${PATH}:/less/important/path:/lesser/important/path" |
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| 19:56.11 | lifostack | i've looked inside my .bashrc file and there actually is NO path entry at all |
| 19:56.16 | lifostack | so i was wondering about that as well |
| 19:56.29 | lifostack | and also if there is a "typical" set of dirs that should be in the path, that i dont currently have |
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| 19:59.00 | quadrathoch2 | premoboss still here? |
| 20:00.03 | quadrathoch2 | premoboss if yes, with that card, you need to install the nvidia-driver package from buster-backports probably to get the newest driver and fix your issue |
| 20:00.19 | premoboss | quadrathoch2, yes, still here |
| 20:00.38 | premoboss | ok i will do backports |
| 20:01.32 | quadrathoch2 | premoboss will be back in a bit, so if issues just ping me |
| 20:01.43 | premoboss | quadrathoch2, ok |
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| 20:12.44 | premoboss | quadrathoch2, problem still here. but i have suspect: monitor could be setted to be "overscan": if yes, i must set in "underscan" manually with the hardware setup on the monitor. |
| 20:14.41 | lifostack | nobody can help me with my PATH deal? |
| 20:15.09 | lifostack | alright ill go watch a youtube video of unverifiable accuracy |
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| 20:21.25 | premoboss | quadrathoch2, yes, it was a hardware setting, ADVANCED SETTING->HDMI SCAN-> underscan, bingo! |
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| 20:23.29 | quadrathoch2 | premoboss :) great |
| 20:23.36 | quadrathoch2 | lifostack what issue do you have? |
| 20:24.44 | premoboss | wait |
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| 20:25.32 | premoboss | the "external" perimeter of screen was not present, like the "frame of a painting" |
| 20:25.51 | premoboss | difficult to me to explain in english, not motherlangiage. |
| 20:25.52 | premoboss | wait |
| 20:25.54 | premoboss | http://nvidia.helpmax.net/en/display/desktop-size-and-position/reference/resizing-your-desktop-to-fit-the-screen/ |
| 20:25.58 | lifostack | quadrathoch2, im trying to edit my .bashrc file to add to the path, i've done "echo $PATH" and see the OEM entries in there, but cannot find them in my .bashrc |
| 20:26.09 | premoboss | this is the solution, so you can undestand the problem :-) |
| 20:26.36 | lifostack | quadrathoch2, are those gonna be in root's .bashrc ? |
| 20:29.28 | lifostack | premoboss are you using an actual monitor or using a TV or some other type of display device? |
| 20:29.31 | lifostack | just curious |
| 20:29.47 | lifostack | i often find i have that problem when i'm using a TV as a video source |
| 20:30.15 | quadrathoch2 | lifostack systemwide or userwide? |
| 20:30.37 | premoboss | lifostack, mi current monitor. |
| 20:30.39 | lifostack | user wide |
| 20:31.05 | premoboss | quadrathoch2, are you asking to me? |
| 20:31.10 | lifostack | quadrathoch2, i dont understand how echo $PATH returns entries but the .bashrc has no PATH |
| 20:31.30 | lifostack | and i'm just trying to add to the path without affecting whats currently being returned |
| 20:31.37 | lifostack | i would hate to overwrite it or something |
| 20:32.20 | lifostack | premoboss, what type of cable are you connecting to your monitor, and are you connecting the monitor to a desktop or laptop? |
| 20:32.52 | quadrathoch2 | lifostack you just add the path, so it's getting added to the systemwide paths |
| 20:33.11 | quadrathoch2 | premoboss idk about what you are talking ;) |
| 20:33.11 | premoboss | lifostack, hdmi cable. from pc to monitor |
| 20:33.17 | lifostack | ok, so if i su to root and check roots .bashrc i'll find those PATH entries that are being echoed in his .bashrc ? |
| 20:33.41 | premoboss | now resolution is ok, audio is ok (i used vpau control tool) |
| 20:34.06 | lifostack | oh, so you're all taken care of then? |
| 20:34.24 | premoboss | lifostack, now all is good |
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| 20:35.23 | lifostack | quadrathoch2, ok, im good thanks i found PATH for root |
| 20:35.46 | lifostack | just freaked me out cuz i never seen such a complex .bashrc file for user, most of the stuff i read shows a blank file kinda like whats in root |
| 20:35.53 | lifostack | or ~/.bashrc when logged in as root that is |
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| 22:35.41 | oxek | On this PC, I can only start it using 'nomodeset' kernel parameter, and then login to /dev/tty1 because the graphical session does not start. Debian 10. |
| 22:35.55 | oxek | I can start from a usb stick that has xubuntu 20.04 and get graphical output |
| 22:36.08 | oxek | I tried the backported 5.6 kernel but no change |
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| 22:36.15 | oxek | I am now back on the stable kernel |
| 22:36.41 | oxek | currently I am logged in on /dev/tty1 and searching for solutions is troublesome because I have to use lynx |
| 22:36.46 | oxek | any tips on how to proceed? |
| 22:36.56 | oxek | It has some integrated graphics card, sandy-bridge era |
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| 22:38.01 | quadrathoch2 | oxek did you test out the modesetting x11 driver? |
| 22:38.14 | quadrathoch2 | if it's an intel igpu |
| 22:38.58 | oxek | quadrathoch2: Not sure what that means. When I try booting normally, without modifying the kernel cmdline, I get no output at all (not even the initial cryptsetup prompt). I only get it if I use 'nomodeset' |
| 22:39.16 | oxek | I have grub |
| 22:39.28 | quadrathoch2 | so you see grub and then just black? |
| 22:39.57 | oxek | yeah. Grub works fine, but if I let it time out and proceed with normal boot, I just get a black screen instead of seeing a prompt to enter my cryptsetup password. |
| 22:40.05 | quadrathoch2 | oxek i guess it would help to specify which gpu you got |
| 22:41.17 | oxek | quadrathoch2: how do I find out? |
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| 22:41.37 | quadrathoch2 | 'lspci | grep VGA' |
| 22:41.59 | oxek | VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller |
| 22:42.45 | oxek | I am not very familiar with the commandline, but that's all I have now, and I am willing to learn. |
| 22:43.00 | quadrathoch2 | oxek 'lscpu | grep Model name' |
| 22:43.31 | oxek | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz |
| 22:43.36 | quadrathoch2 | k |
| 22:44.01 | quadrathoch2 | hm interesting, as I have a sandy bridge pentium, which works fine |
| 22:44.36 | quadrathoch2 | hm |
| 22:44.43 | oxek | and I can confirm graphics output works fine when I use 'nomodeset' in xubuntu 20.04 livecd, but I also get a black screen instead when I don't use nomodeset in xubuntu 20.04. |
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| 22:45.31 | quadrathoch2 | oxek can you ssh into the machine? so we can maybe get some more info from the logs? |
| 22:45.41 | oxek | I am logged on that machine locally |
| 22:46.09 | oxek | I even installed 'gpm' so that I have mouse in the tty |
| 22:48.04 | oxek | this is the only dmesg error when I run it with --level=err: hdaudio hdaudioC0D3: Unable to bind the codec |
| 22:48.08 | oxek | not sure if relevant |
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| 22:49.13 | quadrathoch2 | oxek well that seems to be an error about sound, so should not be the issue |
| 22:49.26 | quadrathoch2 | could you see what comes from 'journalctl -p 3 -xb' |
| 22:49.30 | bjarne333 | oxek: so, the initramfs is not running |
| 22:49.35 | oxek | I also do have firmware-linux-nonfree and intel-microcode installed |
| 22:49.51 | quadrathoch2 | kk |
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| 22:50.24 | oxek | quadrathoch2: doing that now, please bear with me, I am very slow on commandline |
| 22:51.51 | quadrathoch2 | oxek no issue, take your time |
| 22:52.03 | oxek | systemd[1]: Failed to start Light Display Manager. |
| 22:52.16 | oxek | is the first line after the Logs begin... line |
| 22:53.11 | oxek | and then it has the same kernel: hdaudio... error |
| 22:53.30 | quadrathoch2 | welp that doesn't help too much |
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| 22:54.33 | quadrathoch2 | 'journalctl -p 4 -xb' could you look if with this command there is more useful information? |
| 22:54.38 | oxek | I also have: xserver-xorg-video-intel/stable,now 2:2.99.917+git20180925-2 amd64 [installed,automatic] |
| 22:54.54 | quadrathoch2 | oxek yeah that's the gpu driver for X11 |
| 22:55.26 | oxek | I read (using lynx, very difficult for me to use) that this is some outdated driver and instead some modesetting driver should be used instead |
| 22:56.09 | quadrathoch2 | oxek yes, that's what I was asking, if you could install that, or rather remove the intel driver |
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| 22:56.54 | oxek | quadrathoch2: wouldn't that be equivalent to using the 'nomodeset' kernel option that I am using now to at least get to tty? |
| 22:57.05 | oxek | no, wait, I get what you mean now |
| 22:57.13 | oxek | so I should try apt-get remove that driver? |
| 22:57.23 | quadrathoch2 | oxek the -intel one |
| 22:57.32 | quadrathoch2 | and make sure that -modesetting is installed |
| 22:58.43 | oxek | I checked the -p 4 journalctl output and did not spot anything special in there |
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| 22:59.07 | quadrathoch2 | oxek :/ okay, werid |
| 22:59.09 | quadrathoch2 | weird |
| 22:59.34 | oxek | when I do 'apt list *xserver* --installed' I don't see any -modesetting |
| 23:00.14 | oxek | the journalctl does say at the top: kernel: You have booted with nomodeset. This means your GPU drivers are DISABLED |
| 23:00.22 | oxek | kernel: Any video related functionality will be severely degraded, and you may not even be able to suspend the system properly |
| 23:00.28 | quadrathoch2 | oxek then 'sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-modesetting' and after that ' sudo apt remove xserver-xorg-video-intel' |
| 23:00.56 | quadrathoch2 | yeah that's fine for now, but we should reboot after that with the modesetting driver to see if it works |
| 23:01.39 | oxek | quadrathoch2: that package does not exist |
| 23:01.52 | oxek | apt tells me: Note, selecting 'xserver-xorg-core' instead of 'xserver-xorg-video-modesetting' |
| 23:02.18 | quadrathoch2 | ,v xserver-xorg-video-modesetting |
| 23:02.19 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-modesetting on amd64 -- jessie: 0.9.0-2 |
| 23:02.26 | oxek | I think modesetting is no longer a separate thing, it is part of core |
| 23:02.36 | quadrathoch2 | ahh that's fine oxek core is the right one |
| 23:03.43 | ruied | how can I set a specific daemon to run when debian starts? |
| 23:03.45 | oxek | so I don't know what xubuntu 20.04 does differently compared to debian 10 that it allows me to boot to the regular graphical output with 'nomodeset' |
| 23:04.00 | quadrathoch2 | ruied systemctl enable service |
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| 23:04.49 | quadrathoch2 | oxek maybe there is a bug in that specific driver in debian10, where xubuntu20.04 is newer and fixed |
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| 23:05.09 | ruied | quadrathoch2, it is an app that I have downloaded (wownerod). not part of the system |
| 23:05.17 | oxek | quadrathoch2: I tried installing the linux-image-amd64 from backports, which is kernel 5.6, and it did not fix this issue |
| 23:05.32 | quadrathoch2 | then you would need to write your own service file, if it's not provided ruied |
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| 23:06.17 | oxek | but that was just a test, I am now booting back on the regular kernel provided by debian10 stable |
| 23:06.32 | quadrathoch2 | okay oxek, let's see what comes out of it |
| 23:06.57 | ruied | ok, some years ago I linked at rc<something>.d . it still exists but seems not working anymore? |
| 23:07.03 | oxek | quadrathoch2: sorry, my english was wrong - I have already booted back to the regular kernel because the backports kernel did not fix it |
| 23:07.21 | quadrathoch2 | ruied, sysvinit was replaced by systemd, so it works differently |
| 23:07.56 | quadrathoch2 | oxek, even better ;) |
| 23:08.04 | ruied | quadrathoch2, ok, thanks... going to check it |
| 23:08.31 | quadrathoch2 | ruied here is a tutorial https://www.devdungeon.com/content/creating-systemd-service-files |
| 23:08.48 | ruied | quadrathoch2, thanks! |
| 23:09.05 | omeniux | guys do you use firefox or chromium with debian? |
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| 23:09.28 | omeniux | inb4 safari |
| 23:09.52 | sney | both are popular |
| 23:09.53 | quadrathoch2 | omeniux firefox all the way :p |
| 23:10.04 | sney | if you're taking a survey see popcon.debian.org for statistics |
| 23:10.09 | oxek | omeniux: currently lynx because I am stuck on /dev/tty due to broken graphics |
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| 23:10.37 | omeniux | :D |
| 23:10.55 | oxek | it's painful |
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| 23:25.04 | oxek | if I try to start lightdm manually, I get the error: Error getting user list from org.freedesktop.Accounts: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Accounts was not provided by any .service files |
| 23:26.23 | oxek | not sure if that's related to my issue though |
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| 23:28.31 | quadrathoch2 | oxek what DE did you install? |
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| 23:28.53 | oxek | xfce |
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| 23:29.12 | oxek | I don't think there are any wayland packages installed |
| 23:29.21 | quadrathoch2 | oxek directly in the installer? |
| 23:29.24 | oxek | yes |
| 23:29.32 | quadrathoch2 | oxek no as xfce doesn't support wayland |
| 23:30.00 | Unit193 | Wouldn't that simply mean lightdm is trying to use accountsservice and it isn't installed, so you get that output? |
| 23:30.01 | oxek | when selecting the tasks to install during debian installation I just selected xfce and standard system utilities if I remember |
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| 23:31.07 | quadrathoch2 | oxek could you test out what 'sudo apt install task-xfce-desktop' installs something? |
| 23:31.12 | quadrathoch2 | -what |
| 23:31.34 | oxek | quadrathoch2: task-xfce-desktop is already the newest version (3.53). |
| 23:31.46 | quadrathoch2 | k |
| 23:32.44 | oxek | wait, I just remembered something - back when I was installing this machine, it had a dedicated AMD radeon graphics card that I then took out after installation. |
| 23:33.01 | oxek | I needed that graphics card due to DisplayPort output, but don't need it anymore |
| 23:33.10 | oxek | so now the machine only has the integrated graphics card |
| 23:33.33 | oxek | I did not install any proprietary amd drivers - everything was provided by debian installer |
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| 23:33.47 | oxek | but do I perphaps need to disable some amd stuff on this machine? |
| 23:33.55 | oxek | some xserver config? |
| 23:35.18 | quadrathoch2 | oxek no, for the open source drivers they can coexist without any issue |
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| 23:35.42 | oxek | yeah, that's what I thought, thanks for confirming |
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| 23:47.56 | ddsys | quadrathoch2: i tried removing my xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserv-xorg-core was already installed. anyway rebooted and it wouldnt boot up to the desktop |
| 23:48.20 | ddsys | so i reverted |
| 23:49.28 | quadrathoch2 | ddsys hm |
| 23:50.05 | oxek | quadrathoch2: is ddsys having similar issues to me? |
| 23:50.10 | quadrathoch2 | so I can only assume, that it's maybe the mesa version which has an issue. sadly you can't exchange that |
| 23:50.31 | quadrathoch2 | oxek okay, weird, as I thought ddsys is you |
| 23:50.36 | ddsys | oxek i can get to my desktop. i was just trying this modesetting |
| 23:51.16 | ddsys | didnt work for me |
| 23:51.27 | quadrathoch2 | oh okay thanks ddsys :) |
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| 23:59.05 | ruied | trying to make a service working with systemd. it starts but than it stops... It says something about "EOF on stdin" couldit be the parameters added to wownerod https://pastebin.com/2hLf8Any |
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