| 00:01.33 | *** part/#debian sedrosken (~sedrosken@216.146.235.121) |
| 00:03.38 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 00:04.39 | *** join/#debian hgl (hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 00:08.20 | dD__ | GNU\colossus: sorry, message didn't get through. It's now connected directly to my motherboard through sata3 |
| 00:10.51 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@185.253.99.200) |
| 00:11.50 | *** join/#debian tds (~tds@lounge.srv.home.timstallard.me.uk) |
| 00:12.42 | *** join/#debian LaScoumoune_ (~LaScoumou@89.249.73.13) |
| 00:13.29 | *** join/#debian njka- (~njka-@unaffiliated/njka) |
| 00:28.45 | *** join/#debian amunak (~amunak@unaffiliated/amunak) |
| 00:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1129] by debhelper |
| 00:29.05 | *** join/#debian paradizelost3 (~paradizel@24-220-219-101-dynamic.midco.net) |
| 00:42.42 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 01:01.40 | *** join/#debian leorat (~leorat@unaffiliated/leorat) |
| 01:03.08 | *** join/#debian _Matth_ (~Matth@ab006248.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) |
| 01:07.32 | *** join/#debian fmaurer_ (~quassel@188.126.176.203) |
| 01:09.54 | *** join/#debian lxz2 (~lxz@177.67.80.187) |
| 01:14.12 | *** join/#debian Grldfrdom (uid391113@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vkrmtjxqjostjlkf) |
| 01:17.50 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 01:22.51 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 01:24.34 | *** join/#debian Trieste (~T@unaffiliated/trieste) |
| 01:25.35 | *** join/#debian fstd_ (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 01:27.04 | *** join/#debian rustbuckett (~downtime@2602:304:b226:4e19:1d5:323:31e7:7a6e) |
| 01:27.31 | *** join/#debian davschr (~daschr@p200300e22f08dc00dea632fffe1dabac.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:28.46 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@194.5.53.56) |
| 01:29.21 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 01:33.42 | *** join/#debian oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) |
| 01:34.03 | *** join/#debian citypw (~citypw@gateway/tor-sasl/citypw) |
| 01:39.06 | *** join/#debian ddsys (~ddsys@unaffiliated/ddsys) |
| 01:39.06 | *** join/#debian Ratel (~quassel@unaffiliated/josspyker) |
| 01:40.28 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 01:45.39 | *** join/#debian ytf0rd (~jake@67-20-25-244.fidnet.com) |
| 01:45.53 | ytf0rd | what is a tranny taint kisser? |
| 01:46.19 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 01:50.17 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 01:50.19 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@67-20-25-244.fidnet.com] by themill |
| 01:50.21 | *** kick/#debian [ytf0rd!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (On the Internet nobody can hear you being subtle.) |
| 01:50.22 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 01:53.47 | *** join/#debian sidmo_ (~ident@p5b24e81e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:54.05 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mximautrqobpiyyn) |
| 01:59.38 | *** join/#debian drzacek (~drzacek@i5882B36F.versanet.de) |
| 02:02.41 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 02:04.46 | kreyren | Err:5 tor+http://vwakviie2ienjx6t.onion/debian bullseye InRelease |
| 02:04.46 | kreyren | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.52 | kreyren | whats wrong with onion mirror? |
| 02:06.26 | quadrathoch2 | as this is a stable support channel you would need #debian-next on oftc kreyren |
| 02:06.56 | kreyren | quadrathoch2, probably irelevant since it's mirror issue |
| 02:07.02 | kreyren | -> Sane to ask here? |
| 02:07.49 | *** join/#debian Olipro (~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro) |
| 02:08.07 | kreyren | asked in #debian-next~ |
| 02:10.11 | *** join/#debian voidSurfr (~todd_dsm@ip68-225-227-86.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 02:14.44 | *** join/#debian kreyren (~kreyren@fsf/member/kreyren) |
| 02:15.54 | *** join/#debian longears (~longears@89.187.179.58) |
| 02:16.40 | *** join/#debian secntech (~secntech@unaffiliated/secntech) |
| 02:22.25 | *** join/#debian Cabanoss- (~Cabanossi@ppp-88-217-90-16.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 02:32.24 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@55d43340.access.ecotel.net) |
| 02:35.22 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@unaffiliated/debsan) |
| 02:37.00 | *** join/#debian CrazyTux (~S@unaffiliated/crazytux) |
| 02:37.53 | *** part/#debian CrazyTux (~S@unaffiliated/crazytux) |
| 02:42.21 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 02:46.44 | *** join/#debian freshpassport (~freshpass@103.134.144.243) |
| 02:52.25 | *** join/#debian nickodd (~nickodd@unaffiliated/nickodd) |
| 02:57.37 | *** join/#debian el (~el@ubuntu/member/el) |
| 03:01.13 | *** join/#debian deego (~user@unaffiliated/deego) |
| 03:01.18 | *** join/#debian Newami (~Newami@ip174-68-64-138.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 03:01.28 | deego | Does chromium keep crashing for others too, after today's security fix? |
| 03:02.12 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipd114.250.tellas.gr) |
| 03:05.16 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 03:06.36 | annadane | have you tried strace? |
| 03:15.19 | *** join/#debian bamdad (~bamdad@gateway/tor-sasl/bamdad) |
| 03:19.13 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@220.240.225.160) |
| 03:20.11 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 03:24.34 | *** join/#debian Colti (Miramar-FL@2a00:c1e0:0:2:0:1:208:ab5e) |
| 03:29.10 | *** join/#debian lenswipe (~lenswipe@unaffiliated/lenswipe) |
| 03:29.11 | lenswipe | hey folks |
| 03:29.15 | *** join/#debian dominic34 (Thunderbir@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/dominic34) |
| 03:29.39 | lenswipe | I restore a backup of my homedir and all the permissions are 777. Is there a way to set everything back to the default home dir permissions? |
| 03:30.09 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 03:30.32 | *** join/#debian hyskaru (~hyskaru@unaffiliated/hyskaru) |
| 03:33.07 | *** join/#debian th0r (~th0r@233.sub-174-254-196.myvzw.com) |
| 03:35.44 | ectospasm | lenswipe: look up umask |
| 03:36.01 | ectospasm | The umask your program uses to restore is probably set to 000 |
| 03:36.34 | ectospasm | Which may or may not use your user's umask |
| 03:36.42 | lenswipe | i mean i literally just cp'd everything from the drive to my home |
| 03:36.43 | lenswipe | so... |
| 03:36.58 | ectospasm | lenswipe: again, check umask |
| 03:37.10 | ectospasm | lenswipe: also, what filesystem is on the backup drive? |
| 03:37.38 | lenswipe | uh, NTFS I think |
| 03:38.01 | lenswipe | i was trying to hurriedly copy stuff off a failing disk before it bit the dust, so i wasn't too concerned about filesystem magic |
| 03:39.50 | ectospasm | lenswipe: NTFS doesn't know about UNIX/Linux permissions usually, so that's probably where your 777 permissions are coming from. |
| 03:40.07 | lenswipe | almost certainly |
| 03:40.34 | lenswipe | so is there a way to set all my files and folders to the correct value? |
| 03:40.46 | ectospasm | lenswipe: Define "correct value" |
| 03:40.47 | lenswipe | I'm aware of what umask is in theory and how it works, but I'm less sure of how to actually use it |
| 03:41.09 | ectospasm | You want different permissins for u, g, and o |
| 03:41.10 | lenswipe | So, i think it's reasonable to say that 777 is the "incorrect" value for a home dir, yes? |
| 03:41.13 | lenswipe | right |
| 03:41.26 | ectospasm | And you want different permissions for directories and executable files. |
| 03:42.01 | ectospasm | You can set permissions on a directory with: chmod -R <perms> <dir> |
| 03:42.25 | ectospasm | And that will recursively (-R) change all the files to be those permissions. |
| 03:42.39 | ectospasm | Remember that directories have to be readable and executable. |
| 03:43.19 | lenswipe | right, and that's the rub |
| 03:43.28 | lenswipe | i can easily do chmod -R 644 $(pwd) |
| 03:43.37 | lenswipe | but, i need different perms on files and directories |
| 03:44.16 | ectospasm | You could do: find /home/<user> -type d -exec chmod u=rwx,go+rx {} \; |
| 03:44.41 | ectospasm | Or remove the 'o' if you don't what it readable by anybody. |
| 03:45.02 | lenswipe | hmm |
| 03:46.09 | *** join/#debian distopista (~distopist@181.165.15.134) |
| 03:49.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1123] by debhelper |
| 03:50.22 | lenswipe | ectospasm, will that fix everything? or do i have to also fix the files too? |
| 03:50.52 | ectospasm | lenswipe: That will fix the directories. You can change -type d to -type f for regular files. |
| 03:51.04 | *** join/#debian lunaa (~Lunateris@ip70-176-64-198.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:51.30 | ectospasm | Hopefully your executables are easy to find (e.g. ~/bin`) |
| 03:51.39 | ectospasm | Then you can chmod +x them. |
| 03:52.09 | ectospasm | Also, change the permissions to 644 (u+rw,go+r) |
| 03:52.27 | ectospasm | Or if you want to ensure exact permissions: u=rw,go=r |
| 03:52.40 | ectospasm | Or the older method (0644) |
| 03:53.36 | lenswipe | i dont reall have any executables in my home dir that i know of |
| 03:53.46 | lenswipe | ....actually |
| 03:53.47 | *** join/#debian beencubed (~beencubed@209.131.238.248) |
| 03:53.55 | lenswipe | fack. i do have nvm, node, zsh etc. |
| 03:54.20 | *** join/#debian bryceml (~bryceml@104.243.49.127) |
| 03:54.31 | *** join/#debian sixtysix (~sixtysix@171.79.127.161) |
| 03:54.49 | ectospasm | lenswipe: aren't those in /bin, /usr/bin, or /usr/local/bin? |
| 03:55.17 | ectospasm | Or maybe /opt |
| 03:55.19 | lenswipe | nvm isnt afai |
| 03:55.25 | lenswipe | afaik* |
| 03:55.28 | lenswipe | it's in ~/.nvm |
| 03:55.38 | lenswipe | and then node/npm etc. go inside ~/.nvm/ |
| 03:55.45 | ectospasm | Sounds like a handful of executables in there |
| 03:55.50 | lenswipe | probably |
| 03:55.59 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 03:56.01 | lenswipe | hi-ho hi-ho, it's breaking shit i go |
| 03:56.22 | ectospasm | You could run `file .nvm/<filename>` to make sure it's an executable before you set the permissions. |
| 03:57.33 | lenswipe | i could |
| 03:57.40 | lenswipe | or i could just re-install nvm and the relevant node versions tbh |
| 03:57.46 | lenswipe | it's not _too_ terribly difficult |
| 03:57.55 | ectospasm | that would work, too |
| 03:58.05 | lenswipe | meanwhile, im having an issue with a gnome extension |
| 03:58.20 | ectospasm | I can't help you there, I don't use Gnome |
| 03:58.23 | lenswipe | ah ok |
| 03:58.29 | ectospasm | Or at least, no Gnome programs in Debian |
| 03:58.38 | ectospasm | I usually use Debian for servers. |
| 03:58.39 | lenswipe | im used to having the dock at the bottom and i used dash to dock before |
| 03:58.54 | lenswipe | it worked before and now its not doing and the muscle memory of not having it there is slowly chipping at my sanity |
| 03:58.56 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 04:00.41 | *** join/#debian lunatera (Lunateris@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/lunateris) |
| 04:01.51 | *** part/#debian contrapunctus (~contrapun@unaffiliated/contrapunctus) |
| 04:06.45 | *** join/#debian autumncc (592e72ed@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.46.114.237) |
| 04:07.41 | *** join/#debian lunaa (~Lunateris@ip70-176-64-198.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:08.59 | lenswipe | ectospasm, just to clarify... |
| 04:09.08 | lenswipe | if i don't want my stuff readable by anyone other than me, I'd do this: |
| 04:09.08 | lenswipe | find /home/<user> -type d -exec chmod u=rwx,g+rx {} \; |
| 04:09.09 | lenswipe | ? |
| 04:11.30 | *** join/#debian Jade_NL (~JadeNL@unaffiliated/jade-nl/x-0507005) |
| 04:12.52 | ectospasm | No |
| 04:13.10 | lenswipe | ? |
| 04:13.34 | lenswipe | well, readable to anyone else in my group |
| 04:13.37 | lenswipe | but, the point is.. |
| 04:13.43 | ectospasm | You could do: find ~ -type d -exec chmod -R u=rwx,go= {} \; |
| 04:13.56 | ectospasm | Or just do 0700 |
| 04:14.01 | ectospasm | Or 700, whichever |
| 04:14.26 | ectospasm | Oh, then that would be u=rwx,g=rx,o= |
| 04:14.36 | ectospasm | 0750 |
| 04:15.58 | *** join/#debian bamdad (~bamdad@gateway/tor-sasl/bamdad) |
| 04:15.59 | *** join/#debian orange_romeda (~jd@c-73-227-146-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 04:17.39 | *** join/#debian lunatera (~Lunateris@ip70-176-64-198.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:18.36 | lenswipe | u=rwx,g=rx,o= means i have read, write and execute, group has read and execute and others have nothing? |
| 04:18.51 | ectospasm | lenswipe: yes |
| 04:19.05 | lenswipe | i see |
| 04:19.19 | lenswipe | and files and folders should have different permissions, right? |
| 04:21.42 | ectospasm | if you use -type d only directories will be affected. |
| 04:21.53 | ectospasm | So, drop the 'x' for regular files (-type f) |
| 04:21.54 | *** join/#debian Colti (Miramar-FL@2a00:c1e0:0:2:0:1:208:ab5e) |
| 04:22.07 | ectospasm | i.e.: u=rw,g=r,o= |
| 04:22.19 | ectospasm | That's equivalent to 644 |
| 04:22.27 | ectospasm | or 640 |
| 04:23.25 | lenswipe | right. |
| 04:23.33 | lenswipe | i guess we don't want _EVERY_ file to be executable |
| 04:24.04 | ectospasm | lenswipe: it won't hurt much |
| 04:24.27 | ectospasm | If you try to run it and it isn't really an executable you'll get bad interpreter, or possibly some other error. |
| 04:24.52 | lenswipe | meh |
| 04:24.54 | ectospasm | Or you could get unlucky and have it do something undesirable. |
| 04:25.03 | lenswipe | yeah, thats what im worried about |
| 04:25.14 | ectospasm | But that's only if you run it. |
| 04:26.04 | ectospasm | If you don't have that many executables it's safe to just mark everything rw-r----- |
| 04:26.26 | ectospasm | Then do chmod +x on any executables you do find. |
| 04:26.33 | ectospasm | the file command can help with that. |
| 04:27.51 | *** join/#debian orange_romeda_ (~orange_ro@c-73-227-146-94.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 04:29.10 | *** join/#debian Kevlar_Noir (~manjaro-u@2a01:e0a:5d7:e1e0:1119:628c:e282:2954) |
| 04:29.50 | *** join/#debian orange_romeda (orange_rom@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/orangeromeda/x-72597652) |
| 04:35.23 | *** join/#debian Ericounet (~Eric@2a01:e0a:d0:3c20:6c05:7e33:59c5:66e) |
| 04:56.27 | *** join/#debian doric (~doric@rrcs-98-100-34-102.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 04:57.02 | *** join/#debian andi_ (~andi@unaffiliated/andi/x-9058200) |
| 04:57.24 | andi_ | hello, can i use an ubuntu mirror for my apt sources.list? |
| 04:58.31 | Unit193 | Ubuntu mirrors aren't likely to have Debian sources, sooo...Nope. |
| 04:58.43 | Unit193 | What are you trying to do, andi_? |
| 04:59.59 | andi_ | Unit193: i have several servers offline, one of it was installed with debian, the rest is ubuntu so there's an offline ubuntu mirror |
| 05:00.26 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@188.208.122.122) |
| 05:00.31 | andi_ | i'd like to use the ubuntu mirror to update/install the debian host |
| 05:01.07 | Unit193 | Ah, I only use apt-cacher-ng for my mirroring needs, since I don't need everything. |
| 05:01.29 | andi_ | that's the offline mirror base http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/ubuntu/ |
| 05:02.10 | andi_ | the packages in the pool should be fine, i just didn't know if it's possible to use a debian stretch to use it |
| 05:05.03 | *** part/#debian deego (~user@unaffiliated/deego) |
| 05:07.29 | *** join/#debian padhu (uid448388@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fpogxvgodkovfaas) |
| 05:11.32 | padhu | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Vnsd6p6W |
| 05:12.59 | padhu | Chromium browser gives Google meet error message 'your browser can't share your screen'. I installed chromium i80. |
| 05:12.59 | padhu | 0.3987.162-1~deb10u1 |
| 05:15.59 | *** join/#debian medard (~medard@unaffiliated/medard) |
| 05:17.22 | padhu | In Chromium browser, while try to present in Google meet get error message 'your browser can't share your screen'. I installed chromium 80. |
| 05:17.22 | padhu | 0.3987.162-1~deb10u1 |
| 05:18.38 | diogenes_ | padhu, what about Firefox? |
| 05:20.23 | padhu | diogenes: I am not tried? |
| 05:20.49 | diogenes_ | so try. |
| 05:21.16 | padhu | Because it came out frequently. |
| 05:22.13 | *** join/#debian dominic34 (Thunderbir@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/dominic34) |
| 05:26.15 | *** part/#debian nickodd (~nickodd@unaffiliated/nickodd) |
| 05:28.54 | padhu | diogenes_: any bug in chromium? |
| 05:31.26 | diogenes_ | padhu, i don't know, i don't use neither google meet nor Chromium but if you try Firefox and it works then yes a bug. |
| 05:33.05 | *** join/#debian __marco (~marco@195.218.6.205) |
| 05:37.12 | *** join/#debian bmlzootown (~bmlzootow@unaffiliated/bmlzootown) |
| 05:38.10 | *** join/#debian loptr (~loptr@lfbn-str-1-94-84.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 05:40.11 | *** join/#debian ijurisic (~ijurisic@www.jurisic.org) |
| 05:41.38 | *** join/#debian brachamh_ (~bracham@142.165.116.171) |
| 05:48.57 | *** join/#debian Adbray (~Adbray@2600:6c48:6f7f:d764:a886:e0a9:ec62:6e9e) |
| 05:49.24 | andi_ | if i do a service apache2 stop, shouldn't the apache2 service be stopped? |
| 05:49.33 | andi_ | why do i still see the apache2 debian default page? |
| 05:51.41 | *** join/#debian wantotri (~wantotri@68.235.43.100) |
| 05:52.06 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 05:55.48 | brachamh_ | andi_, I just got here so i don't know if you gave more details earlier, but i assume you're running debian...what version? |
| 05:56.12 | *** join/#debian flayer (~a_flayer@2001:1c01:40ce:b400:16da:e9ff:fe04:1768) |
| 05:56.18 | andi_ | bachler: stretch |
| 05:56.53 | *** join/#debian kopiyka (~user@2001:983:fe8b:1:b26e:bfff:fe2b:503f) |
| 05:57.02 | andi_ | Debian 4.9.144-3 a pgrep and a ps aux did not catch anything for apache 2 yet i still see the apache2 page |
| 05:59.05 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 06:00.07 | brachamh_ | andi_, a quick google search showed me that for the more recent versions of debian/ubuntu the command is: systemctl stop apache2.service |
| 06:00.35 | brachamh_ | seems to me that with ubuntu i've used: systemctl stop apache2 |
| 06:04.00 | SpeedyG | could also be that the default page is still in your browser cache |
| 06:04.56 | brachamh_ | that's true. seems to me that i ran into the same "problem" once and it was simply that i was using the old command |
| 06:05.21 | brachamh_ | again, that was with ubuntu...i'm working on switching over to debian |
| 06:05.21 | andi_ | lets check :) |
| 06:05.22 | SpeedyG | but yeah, as of the transition to systemd, systemctl is the command to be used... |
| 06:05.35 | andi_ | and yeah i used systemctl too |
| 06:05.44 | andi_ | and systemctl status is also good so far |
| 06:05.51 | andi_ | so it seems like apache2 is offline |
| 06:05.55 | andi_ | yet i still see the apache page |
| 06:06.16 | SpeedyG | try to get it with curl or similar |
| 06:06.22 | SpeedyG | isntead of the browser |
| 06:06.35 | SpeedyG | and check with ss -plunt if port 80 is still running a listening service |
| 06:07.21 | brachamh_ | most browsers also have a "hard refresh" option |
| 06:07.40 | brachamh_ | to pull a fresh page from the server instead of from cache |
| 06:08.52 | andi_ | alright cache was the problem |
| 06:08.56 | *** join/#debian S3xyL1nux (~olag@34.104.181.183.ap.yournet.ne.jp) |
| 06:09.07 | andi_ | grrr... that's not the first time cache was the fault :/ |
| 06:09.10 | brachamh_ | which browser do you use? |
| 06:09.15 | andi_ | firefox |
| 06:09.31 | SpeedyG | ctrl-f5 might help too iirc |
| 06:10.53 | brachamh_ | ah ok. i tried FF years ago and haven't been back. now i'm working my way away from anything Google so I'm somewhat tempted to try FF again. Trying Brave for now |
| 06:11.41 | autumncc | Icecat and Qutebrowser are some options |
| 06:11.50 | padhu | diogenes_: In Firefox, working fine. Thank you. But in chromium still problem, even after reinstalled chromium |
| 06:12.02 | *** join/#debian vernor2250 (~art@220.121.35.160) |
| 06:12.43 | brachamh_ | autumncc, are they full featured? |
| 06:13.04 | *** join/#debian garvey4818 (~geoff@218-219-138-90.ppp.bbiq.jp) |
| 06:13.33 | autumncc | for the most part but i dotn think they have everything that FF/chrome has |
| 06:14.12 | diogenes_ | padhu, Chromium has alwaysbeen buggy at least for me. |
| 06:14.46 | brachamh_ | so FF is probably the best browser currently? |
| 06:15.10 | *** join/#debian JerryXiao (~JerryXiao@unaffiliated/jerryxiao) |
| 06:16.05 | padhu | Idiogenes_ : I always use firefox. Chromium only for meeting |
| 06:16.42 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 06:17.06 | brachamh_ | i tried chromium once a few months ago and found that it didn't work for everything i needed, so i quit it. |
| 06:17.24 | padhu | diogenes_: google search gives no result for this. |
| 06:17.38 | *** join/#debian martinus__ (~martin@132.31.201.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 06:20.12 | *** join/#debian czesmir (~stefan@ekn107.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 06:22.11 | *** join/#debian fflori (~fflori@194.230.155.198) |
| 06:28.52 | brachamh_ | one main thing i need in a browser is multiple device coordination, which chrome does do amazingly. i couldn't find that option tonight in brave (it has been a long day), so i'm looking through FF now |
| 06:31.24 | *** join/#debian lxz3 (~lxz@181.215.46.112) |
| 06:31.37 | *** join/#debian ayew (~ayew@n175-34-236-78.sun1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 06:32.04 | diogenes_ | brave is compromised as i've heard. |
| 06:32.24 | *** join/#debian palimaar (~oasd@KD113148020047.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 06:32.49 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 06:33.03 | *** join/#debian led_belly (~led_belly@192.40.57.240) |
| 06:33.52 | *** join/#debian Grldfrdom (uid391113@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qofsxilaqlgskthr) |
| 06:34.28 | brachamh_ | brave is compromised? do you have any details offhand? i'll search that |
| 06:35.06 | SpeedyG | I guess you're refering to this https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology ? |
| 06:35.52 | diogenes_ | yes ^^^^ |
| 06:36.17 | *** join/#debian lolico (~rjb@2601:601:cf7f:1ed0::8e02) |
| 06:36.33 | brachamh_ | oh wow |
| 06:36.44 | brachamh_ | transparency is a big deal |
| 06:37.26 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@trivialand/genius/butt3rfly) |
| 06:37.42 | brachamh_ | "Finally, Eich argued that none of this was hidden from users and has been viewable in the browserâs source code for months. |
| 06:37.42 | brachamh_ | Read more at MobileSyrup.com: Brave browser apologizes for automatically redirecting users through affiliate links" |
| 06:38.11 | *** join/#debian grobi1 (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 06:38.20 | brachamh_ | seriously? in the browser's source code? because everyone's a programmer! |
| 06:39.04 | SpeedyG | brachamh_: thats the whole idea of 'open source' right ... so that everyone can check if its doing what its supposed to do ? :P |
| 06:39.18 | SpeedyG | because everyone is a programmer/dev or knows how to read and audit code |
| 06:39.24 | *** join/#debian hussar (~hussar@modemcable027.157-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 06:40.58 | rudi_s | And has the time (and will) to read million lines of code .. |
| 06:41.00 | brachamh_ | haha! that's the thing with open source...you shouldn't try to hide stuff, as someone will call you out |
| 06:41.03 | absinthe | tbh that affiliated thing is no big deal |
| 06:41.08 | absinthe | (hello) |
| 06:41.27 | SpeedyG | mornin absinthe :) and agree with you there... people should know what they sign up for ;) |
| 06:41.38 | absinthe | brave is not misdirecting the user, nor selling their data |
| 06:42.14 | brachamh_ | i somewhat agree that it isn't a big deal, but it's just the fact that it's a privacy browser and it wasn't being transparent. i dunno. |
| 06:42.40 | *** join/#debian magenbrot (~magenbrot@oozulldsbuddlasbaa.de) |
| 06:43.04 | brachamh_ | i'm tired so my thinking may be off a bit, but that does hit me as a bit wrong |
| 06:45.36 | diogenes_ | maybe the thing with affiliated links is onlty the tip of the iceberg, if a company can do one dirty trick then it can do others more hidden ones too. |
| 06:45.57 | brachamh_ | exactly |
| 06:47.39 | absinthe | it's somewhat the "less shady thing" a browser would do. compare it with DDG browser on mobile that phoned back home to tell the servers *every* *domain* you visit (took 1+ year for DDG to fix this issue) |
| 06:48.49 | *** join/#debian contrapunctus (~contrapun@unaffiliated/contrapunctus) |
| 06:49.02 | absinthe | well, anyway.. ;) |
| 06:52.22 | *** join/#debian martian67 (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) |
| 06:52.39 | *** join/#debian skyliner_369 (uid80781@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ekipmfctpktydpem) |
| 06:52.46 | *** join/#debian Ycarus (~Ycarus@2001:bc8:47b0:1b0b::1) |
| 06:53.35 | skyliner_369 | does anyone know of a PPA with blender 2.83 or should I uninstall blender and use snap for blender? |
| 06:57.21 | *** join/#debian Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110) |
| 06:57.56 | *** join/#debian tsal (~tsal@i59F52AAE.versanet.de) |
| 06:58.51 | *** join/#debian mibo (~mibo@194.213.207.197) |
| 07:01.25 | *** join/#debian mezzo (~mezzo@176-141-171-88.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 07:11.10 | *** join/#debian reintegrated (~iain@cpc108195-wake9-2-0-cust179.17-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 07:15.03 | *** join/#debian winy (~vince@46.215.129.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 07:24.03 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 07:25.23 | *** join/#debian otisolsen70 (~otisolsen@x50d248d8.cust.hiper.dk) |
| 07:29.03 | *** join/#debian Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@47.185.200.9) |
| 07:32.11 | towo^work | skyliner_369, debian does not have any ppa |
| 07:32.16 | towo^work | ppa are for ubuntu |
| 07:33.34 | *** join/#debian luuuciano__ (~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano) |
| 07:35.13 | skyliner_369 | right. |
| 07:35.26 | *** join/#debian grobi2 (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 07:38.48 | *** join/#debian tagomago (~tagomago@din-3-140-231-77.ipcom.comunitel.net) |
| 07:42.36 | *** join/#debian hussar (~hussar@modemcable027.157-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 07:42.46 | *** join/#debian nksegos (~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-416-128.w90-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:43.49 | alexrelis | Is it possible to run Second Life on Debian? My sister has the urge to play. |
| 07:46.45 | oiaohm | alexrelis: you can be in for a bit of a setup issue as the Second life offical viewer for Linux is still 32 bit only. |
| 07:48.11 | *** join/#debian njka- (~njka-@unaffiliated/njka) |
| 07:48.20 | *** join/#debian zxwayland (~blackpink@45.83.220.215) |
| 07:51.15 | *** join/#debian TomyWork (~TomyLobo@p548b7f0a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:51.17 | oiaohm | alexrelis: https://www.firestormviewer.org/linux/ the third party viewer has a 64 bit version for debian. |
| 07:53.42 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipd114.250.tellas.gr) |
| 07:56.01 | alexrelis | Are there any viewers that are in the official Debian repositories? |
| 07:58.52 | *** join/#debian ich (~ich@ip-62-143-216-215.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 07:59.01 | oiaohm | alexrelis: the answer is unfortantly no. And there is not an flatpak from firestorm or second life either. |
| 07:59.47 | oiaohm | firestorm viewer is in fact LGPL open source but its not packaged for debian. |
| 07:59.49 | *** join/#debian comradegarry (~garry@cpe-173-174-238-78.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 07:59.53 | oiaohm | Or any other distribution. |
| 08:01.01 | *** join/#debian yuriii (~yurii@87.110.183.173) |
| 08:01.20 | *** join/#debian redguy (~matik@unaffiliated/redguy) |
| 08:01.34 | *** join/#debian nifker (~Thunderbi@200116b80aacb400c43ddcefef6c1cd3.dip.versatel-1u1.de) |
| 08:07.44 | *** join/#debian NeoCron (~neocron_@sip.sits03.de) |
| 08:07.47 | *** part/#debian contrapunctus (~contrapun@unaffiliated/contrapunctus) |
| 08:07.51 | *** join/#debian njka- (~njka-@unaffiliated/njka) |
| 08:09.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1129] by debhelper |
| 08:13.14 | *** join/#debian dastier (~dastier@mm-208-229-121-178.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by) |
| 08:14.01 | *** join/#debian NeoCron (~neocron_@sip.sits03.de) |
| 08:16.52 | *** join/#debian NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@unaffiliated/dontknow) |
| 08:20.39 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@67-2-73-63.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 08:20.45 | *** join/#debian MichaelOF (~michael@p200300eb8f0fab015048bf3c7ac5c410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:24.41 | *** join/#debian unluckyshrubbery (~unluckysh@unaffiliated/unluckyshrubbery) |
| 08:28.22 | *** join/#debian netcrash (~charmande@97.245.60.94.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 08:30.30 | *** join/#debian asymptotically (~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically) |
| 08:31.46 | *** join/#debian sinaowolabi (~Sina@160.152.27.64) |
| 08:31.51 | *** join/#debian ghaoil (~ghaoil@hs-user-138.wia.cz) |
| 08:33.30 | *** join/#debian Abrax (~Abrax@ip98-168-63-15.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 08:35.31 | *** join/#debian banox (~banox@45.12.223.236) |
| 08:36.50 | *** join/#debian snwfdhmp (~snwfdhmp@lfbn-lil-1-331-68.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:38.17 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 08:39.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1137] by debhelper |
| 08:41.44 | *** join/#debian gravitos (uid355353@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yiakdyessejhmznl) |
| 08:42.57 | *** join/#debian k4nz (~Thunderbi@corp.veryeast.com) |
| 08:43.06 | *** join/#debian bolovanos (~bolovanos@host-213-235-140-105.ip.topnet.cz) |
| 08:48.27 | *** join/#debian Jerrynicki (~niklas@p549a9ca3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:54.37 | *** join/#debian k4nz (~Thunderbi@183.156.76.84) |
| 08:56.46 | *** join/#debian gelignite (~gelignite@55d49fbc.access.ecotel.net) |
| 08:56.48 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~David@92.237.236.151) |
| 08:59.34 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at) |
| 09:01.32 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@188.208.122.221) |
| 09:07.34 | *** join/#debian Gazooo (~Gazooo@097-101-147-050.res.spectrum.com) |
| 09:07.41 | *** join/#debian downtrip (~downtrip@188.166.151.198) |
| 09:11.41 | *** join/#debian lucad111 (~lucad111@linaro/lucad111) |
| 09:14.42 | *** join/#debian JustASlacker (~JustASlac@37.208.105.6) |
| 09:15.57 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipd114.250.tellas.gr) |
| 09:18.02 | *** join/#debian gavlee (~gav@unaffiliated/gavlee) |
| 09:19.47 | *** join/#debian JohnML (~john1@ip-178-202-6-107.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 09:20.37 | *** join/#debian itsnotgoodname (~itsnotgoo@c-24-18-94-47.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 09:30.45 | *** join/#debian MichaelOF (~michael@p200300eb8f0fab015048bf3c7ac5c410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:30.45 | *** join/#debian h0 (~h0@126.1.10.93.rev.sfr.net) |
| 09:35.30 | *** join/#debian martian67 (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) |
| 09:36.14 | *** join/#debian Slashman (~Slash@cosium-fo-152-18.fib.nerim.net) |
| 09:38.13 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 09:39.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1143] by debhelper |
| 09:39.56 | NetTerminalGene | ,v gnome-shell |
| 09:39.57 | judd | Package: gnome-shell on amd64 -- jessie: 3.14.4-1~deb8u1; stretch: 3.22.3-3; buster: 3.30.2-11~deb10u1; bullseye: 3.36.3-1; sid: 3.36.3-1 |
| 09:40.29 | *** join/#debian CombatVet (~c4@gateway/tor-sasl/combatvet) |
| 09:53.26 | *** join/#debian kfvn (~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/kh4ydn) |
| 09:54.09 | *** join/#debian funnel (~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral) |
| 09:54.20 | *** join/#debian MrTrick (uid181961@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ykvykidccdkaitua) |
| 09:56.07 | *** join/#debian icebit_ (~marco@host-79-33-72-74.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 09:56.58 | *** join/#debian martian67 (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) |
| 09:57.01 | *** join/#debian ruffni (50da88d3@80-218-136-211.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 09:58.14 | ruffni | i seem to have locked myself out of my debian installation; i think it has something to do with hibernation. so: how do i prevent my machine to try to recover from hibernate (and just boot up normally)? |
| 09:58.59 | *** join/#debian bmlzootown (~bmlzootow@unaffiliated/bmlzootown) |
| 10:02.56 | *** join/#debian Schabo (~schabo@85.24.253.37) |
| 10:05.41 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@163.114.131.1) |
| 10:05.48 | *** join/#debian RadoS (~cheater@unaffiliated/radoq) |
| 10:10.42 | *** join/#debian avalenn (avalennmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yzsvovzfmacidipv) |
| 10:11.16 | *** join/#debian CombatVet (~c4@gateway/tor-sasl/combatvet) |
| 10:11.18 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 10:12.15 | *** join/#debian marcello1 (~marcello1@host-82-54-129-17.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:12.37 | avalenn | Hello, I have errors about The repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease' is not signed. |
| 10:12.51 | *** join/#debian rander2 (~ran@151.32.100.238) |
| 10:12.55 | rander2 | hello |
| 10:13.04 | avalenn | any idea why ? |
| 10:13.29 | rander2 | how may I start deb10 in rext mode ? |
| 10:14.13 | rander2 | without X I mean,boot with bash |
| 10:16.54 | *** join/#debian gavlee (~gav@unaffiliated/gavlee) |
| 10:17.10 | rander2 | I have a laptop with blinking screen, and it's impossible switch to text with alt+F1... |
| 10:18.04 | avalenn | rander2 ctrl+alt+F1 ? |
| 10:18.14 | *** join/#debian kreyren (~kreyren@fsf/member/kreyren) |
| 10:18.50 | rander2 | avalenn, don't go,text appair for a moment and quickly disappare |
| 10:18.59 | rander2 | so I must boot in text |
| 10:21.55 | avalenn | recovery mode on boot prompt ? |
| 10:22.51 | *** join/#debian zyley (~zyley@unaffiliated/zyley) |
| 10:23.35 | *** join/#debian dijong_ (~dijong@gateway/tor-sasl/dijong) |
| 10:23.37 | rander2 | avalenn, recovery mode go in text mode, but graph after dont start |
| 10:23.50 | rander2 | all begun when I installed zram |
| 10:27.03 | *** join/#debian Lord_of_Life_ (~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362) |
| 10:27.13 | *** join/#debian Schabo (~schabo@85.24.253.37) |
| 10:27.37 | rander2 | recovery mode dont show errors with dmesg |
| 10:27.37 | *** join/#debian knidos (~knidos@85.99.21.89) |
| 10:29.16 | rander2 | su user dont go |
| 10:29.57 | rander2 | how may I remove zram from the services ? |
| 10:31.09 | rander2 | I removed zram with remmod zram , and xfce4 start correctly , but I am root. How may I remove zram module from boot ? |
| 10:31.49 | *** join/#debian Jerrynicki (~niklas@p200300f57702b70046c252ec2a2a0c0c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:32.18 | *** join/#debian iflema (~ian@unaffiliated/iflema) |
| 10:39.52 | *** join/#debian unixbhaskar (c3ce69d6@195.206.105.214) |
| 10:42.50 | *** join/#debian leorat (~leorat@unaffiliated/leorat) |
| 10:44.47 | *** join/#debian hyskaru (~hyskaru@unaffiliated/hyskaru) |
| 10:48.22 | *** join/#debian gigetoo (~gigetoo@c83-251-253-157.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 10:48.44 | *** join/#debian squirrel (~mj@unaffiliated/squirrel) |
| 10:54.18 | *** join/#debian squirrel (~mj@unaffiliated/squirrel) |
| 10:55.59 | *** join/#debian bamdad (~bamdad@gateway/tor-sasl/bamdad) |
| 10:58.41 | *** join/#debian rander2 (~ran@151.32.173.58) |
| 11:00.31 | *** join/#debian jrgill (~jrgill@unaffiliated/jrgill) |
| 11:03.24 | *** join/#debian dfacto8 (~qwerty@unaffiliated/xparanoik) |
| 11:03.33 | rander2 | zram |
| 11:05.02 | *** join/#debian palimaar (~oasd@KD113148020047.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 11:05.18 | *** join/#debian kzimmermann (~aslkfsjjk@KD113148020047.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) |
| 11:05.27 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:06.22 | *** join/#debian loptr (~loptr@lfbn-str-1-94-84.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:06.41 | *** join/#debian LionOpeter (~liron@bzq-109-66-26-107.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 11:06.53 | *** join/#debian plutes (~plutes@unaffiliated/plutes) |
| 11:07.25 | rander2 | hello |
| 11:07.58 | rander2 | how avoid to insert a module in the kernel at boot ? |
| 11:08.42 | nkuttler | rander2: blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 11:10.49 | rander2 | how? |
| 11:12.04 | rander2 | nkuttler, how blacklist? |
| 11:12.06 | netvixtra | first hit on google |
| 11:13.57 | ruffni | when i try to boot my machine it successfully decrypts my drive and starts the boot process, but crashes shortly after "PM: Image loading process X%"... i tried commenting out the swap partition (with the intention of stopping the system to try recovering from a hibernate state) but no luck. same red-screen-of-death. do i really need to set up the |
| 11:13.58 | ruffni | machine again? |
| 11:16.41 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 11:18.42 | *** join/#debian tmroland (~tmroland@host-78-148-95-187.as13285.net) |
| 11:19.55 | *** join/#debian distopista (~distopist@181.165.15.134) |
| 11:21.02 | *** join/#debian loptr (~loptr@lfbn-str-1-94-84.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:21.43 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 11:22.29 | *** join/#debian geowiesnot (~user@87-89-181-157.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 11:24.22 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@unaffiliated/format-c/x-8927423) |
| 11:24.31 | *** join/#debian pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@unaffiliated/pingfloyd) |
| 11:25.41 | rander2 | cp full copy hiddend and all _ |
| 11:25.44 | rander2 | ? |
| 11:26.31 | rander2 | cp -R ...? |
| 11:26.46 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@93.116.130.26) |
| 11:28.12 | ratrace | what! |
| 11:28.16 | *** join/#debian ruffni (50da88d3@80-218-136-211.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 11:29.31 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 11:30.41 | *** join/#debian xet7 (~xet7@85-156-126-139.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 11:30.53 | rander2 | ss -d |
| 11:31.25 | rander2 | ss -t |
| 11:33.19 | *** join/#debian leorat (~leorat@unaffiliated/leorat) |
| 11:34.26 | rander2 | I-m going to reinstall debian thx |
| 11:35.11 | *** join/#debian n1ce (~n1ce@unaffiliated/n1ce) |
| 11:42.15 | *** join/#debian schangg (~besnard@92.188.120.222) |
| 11:42.19 | schangg | Hello |
| 11:42.52 | schangg | I just installed debian:latest in a docker |
| 11:42.54 | schangg | when I run systemd-resolve --status |
| 11:43.08 | schangg | I then get sd_bus_open_system: No such file or directory |
| 11:43.47 | schangg | I've found some references to this on the web and some people fixed the problem by creating some symbolic links |
| 11:44.10 | schangg | but as this was reported a while ago I would assume that if this was a bug then it should have been fixed by now |
| 11:44.19 | *** join/#debian CxP (~CxP@mail.paulcosma.com) |
| 11:46.02 | ayekat | schangg: what command are you passing to the container? |
| 11:46.16 | schangg | I am inside the container executing a shell |
| 11:46.27 | schangg | so doing that from that shell |
| 11:46.27 | ayekat | I wouldn't be surprised if this is simply a case of not running any init system or services, so half the OS inside isn't working as expected |
| 11:46.51 | schangg | ayekat quite probable |
| 11:47.02 | schangg | ayekat but dns resolution works just fine |
| 11:48.32 | ayekat | schangg: I'm not familiar enough with containers to really help here - but I guess DNS resolution works fine because the (host) OS exposes the necessary things to the container to allow glibc inside to resolve hostnames |
| 11:49.49 | schangg | the host is providing network config with DHCP |
| 11:50.04 | schangg | the dns info provided by DHCP point to an address of the host |
| 11:50.17 | schangg | which I assume will then forward that to the dns set in the host |
| 11:50.26 | *** join/#debian Jerrynicki (~niklas@p200300f57702b70046c252ec2a2a0c0c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:50.29 | schangg | so I am not sure why this would be a problem for systemd |
| 11:51.35 | ayekat | AFAICT, containers are really just namespaces with some bells and whistles - unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with namespaces to really help here, either ^^' |
| 11:52.00 | schangg | how would I evidence that what you believe to be missing is actually missing ? |
| 11:52.53 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@unaffiliated/debsan) |
| 11:53.15 | *** join/#debian raidghost (raidghost@unaffiliated/raidghost) |
| 11:53.51 | *** join/#debian ruffni (50da88d3@80-218-136-211.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 11:54.12 | raidghost | Just got fiber internet and iptv from the same provider. Is there much difference from ubuntu/debian when it comes to supporting multicast (and to get igmpproxy to work smooth) ? |
| 11:54.48 | schangg | ayekat systemctl start systemd |
| 11:54.48 | schangg | System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate. |
| 11:55.01 | schangg | so you are certainly right |
| 11:55.20 | *** join/#debian enoq (~bernhard@2a02:8388:6a87:b080:cbf6:be67:9b6d:932b) |
| 11:55.57 | *** join/#debian nevivurn (~nevivurn@unaffiliated/nevivurn) |
| 11:56.05 | enoq | hi, I was wondering where debian and debianslim docker images were built from |
| 11:56.25 | *** join/#debian mzajc (~marko@unaffiliated/mzajc) |
| 11:58.23 | nevivurn | enoq: https://github.com/docker-library/official-images/blob/master/library/debian |
| 11:58.23 | *** join/#debian Colti (Miramar-FL@2a00:c1e0:0:2:0:1:208:ab5e) |
| 11:59.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1149] by debhelper |
| 12:00.35 | *** join/#debian Abrax (~Abrax@62.182.99.53) |
| 12:01.27 | ruffni | my laptop ran out of battery while hibernating. now it won't boot (altough it starts and even lets me decrypt my drive). it states "loading image" then crashes. i tried deactivating the swap (to hinder recovering some broken hibernation image) but no luck. any suggestions? can i disable the hibernation feature when only mounting the drive? would a |
| 12:01.27 | ruffni | rescue disk be of any help? |
| 12:04.32 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 12:05.59 | ruffni | is it of any use (in my case) to mount the drive and reinstall initramfs-tools (as the manual page "Hibernation" suggests)? |
| 12:06.08 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 12:10.32 | *** join/#debian ddsys (~ddsys@unaffiliated/ddsys) |
| 12:11.28 | *** join/#debian CxP (~CxP@mail.paulcosma.com) |
| 12:12.44 | enoq | looks like the docker image just builds off of the root fs https://github.com/debuerreotype/docker-debian-artifacts/blob/dist-amd64/stable/rootfs.tar.xz |
| 12:12.54 | enoq | does a normal debian version ship without ps? |
| 12:14.04 | enoq | procps package that is |
| 12:15.19 | *** join/#debian rosf (~rosf@101.red-79-144-194.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:15.36 | *** join/#debian rewrited (~rewrited@unaffiliated/rewrited) |
| 12:15.50 | *** part/#debian raidghost (raidghost@unaffiliated/raidghost) |
| 12:17.04 | *** join/#debian tablerice (~tablerice@2603-9000-ec02-eb2f-0000-0000-0000-02b3.inf6.spectrum.com) |
| 12:17.59 | *** join/#debian bureautips (~BureauTip@83.159.196.44) |
| 12:18.56 | *** join/#debian k4nz (~Thunderbi@125.120.162.153) |
| 12:21.33 | *** join/#debian archaeopter98 (50822de7@p50822de7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:22.10 | archaeopter98 | Hello! I know it isnt quite a debian question, but how would i go about sshing into dietpi, a minimal debian for my newly ordered pi zero? |
| 12:22.27 | *** join/#debian martian67 (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) |
| 12:22.33 | *** join/#debian ob-sed (~obesd@unaffiliated/obesd) |
| 12:23.32 | *** join/#debian plutes (~plutes@unaffiliated/plutes) |
| 12:24.42 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 12:25.57 | *** join/#debian anoncon (~Falsememo@pool-74-103-203-219.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) |
| 12:26.46 | *** join/#debian mra90 (Martin@nat/intel/x-ctzzcxrmgvsewcml) |
| 12:27.04 | mra90 | anybody familiar with chromeOS kernel and knows how to update it froma USB stick instead of officialy documented script which requires network access? |
| 12:28.33 | *** join/#debian aesthe (~aesthe@2a00:23c8:7284:d00:e0b6:f349:d70c:7035) |
| 12:29.33 | *** join/#debian LtL (~ltl@unaffiliated/ltl) |
| 12:40.04 | *** join/#debian martian67 (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) |
| 12:42.46 | *** join/#debian nevivurn (~nevivurn@unaffiliated/nevivurn) |
| 12:43.52 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 12:48.07 | *** join/#debian bliv (~bliv@unaffiliated/blivande) |
| 12:48.43 | *** join/#debian k4nz (~Thunderbi@125.120.162.153) |
| 12:51.00 | *** join/#debian anikras (~anikras@170.253.35.253) |
| 12:57.09 | *** join/#debian icebit_ (~marco@host-79-33-72-74.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:58.00 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@trivialand/genius/butt3rfly) |
| 13:01.41 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@89.32.122.5) |
| 13:02.26 | *** join/#debian anikras (~anikras@170.253.35.253) |
| 13:02.43 | ayekat | schangg: `systemctl start systemd` doesn't really make any sense - systemd isn't a service, and more generally, starting a service requires systemd to be running in the first place :-) |
| 13:02.57 | *** join/#debian steven_saus (~steven_sa@cpe-74-131-36-220.kya.res.rr.com) |
| 13:05.53 | *** join/#debian hyskaru (~hyskaru@unaffiliated/hyskaru) |
| 13:06.49 | *** join/#debian geowiesnot (~user@i15-les02-ix2-87-89-181-157.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 13:08.11 | *** join/#debian CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) |
| 13:08.36 | *** part/#debian mason (~mason@redhat/mason) |
| 13:09.34 | *** join/#debian this_paradis (~this_para@37-48-50-147.nat.epc.tmcz.cz) |
| 13:11.06 | *** join/#debian martian67 (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) |
| 13:18.44 | *** join/#debian Juzzika (~Juzzika@164.166-78-194.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 13:22.28 | *** join/#debian ob-sed (~obesd@unaffiliated/obesd) |
| 13:23.08 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@163.114.131.1) |
| 13:25.01 | *** join/#debian holgersson (~quassel@unaffiliated/holgersson) |
| 13:36.19 | *** join/#debian lel_ (~lel@unaffiliated/lel) |
| 13:41.55 | *** join/#debian CxP (~CxP@mail.paulcosma.com) |
| 13:43.46 | *** join/#debian geowiesnot (~user@i15-les02-ix2-87-89-181-157.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 13:43.49 | *** join/#debian grumble (~Thunderbi@freenode/staff/grumble) |
| 13:51.06 | *** join/#debian linzst (~linzst@unaffiliated/linzst) |
| 14:02.14 | *** join/#debian Brainium (~brainium@unaffiliated/brainium) |
| 14:02.57 | *** join/#debian ddsys (~ddsys@unaffiliated/ddsys) |
| 14:05.11 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@90.162.105.206) |
| 14:06.55 | *** join/#debian jaggz (~jaggz@unaffiliated/jaggz) |
| 14:06.58 | jaggz | . ~/.bashrc says: /home/jaggz/.bashrc: restricted |
| 14:07.06 | jaggz | what in the world is that? |
| 14:07.27 | *** part/#debian schangg (~besnard@92.188.120.222) |
| 14:08.52 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 14:09.54 | mezzo | ls -l .bashrc ? |
| 14:10.05 | jaggz | weird. It's doing it only in that shell. exited and used another and it works fine. Also, I had to exit that shell twice, so I must have been in a subshell somehow that was, I guess "restricted". |
| 14:11.33 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 14:12.27 | jaggz | ahh, I ran bash -r instead of hash -r |
| 14:13.34 | *** join/#debian abdulocracy (~abdulocra@79.191.214.180.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl) |
| 14:14.02 | *** join/#debian NeoCron (~neocron_@sip.sits03.de) |
| 14:14.14 | *** join/#debian TomyWork (~TomyLobo@p200300e80f24ab00c021367387ae9446.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:16.00 | *** join/#debian bamdad (~bamdad@gateway/tor-sasl/bamdad) |
| 14:17.48 | *** join/#debian lastwish (~lastwish@62.102.148.164) |
| 14:22.43 | *** join/#debian loptr (~loptr@lfbn-str-1-94-84.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:26.06 | *** join/#debian MasterdonX (~masterdon@185.246.211.104) |
| 14:27.41 | *** join/#debian fax (~quassel@unaffiliated/fax) |
| 14:27.42 | *** join/#debian fax_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/fax) |
| 14:29.34 | *** join/#debian dvs (~gilford@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 14:31.16 | *** join/#debian janneke (~janneke@fsf/member/janneke) |
| 14:33.01 | *** join/#debian polyphem (~p0lyph3m@2a02:810d:640:776c:76d7:55f6:f85b:c889) |
| 14:33.44 | *** join/#debian AreThree (~r3@ntp/member/r3) |
| 14:34.47 | *** join/#debian pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@unaffiliated/pingfloyd) |
| 14:37.52 | *** join/#debian MichaelOF (~michael@p200300eb8f0fab015048bf3c7ac5c410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:38.10 | *** part/#debian archaeopter98 (50822de7@p50822de7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:44.38 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipd114.250.tellas.gr) |
| 14:45.26 | *** join/#debian Jerrynicki (~niklas@p200300f57702b70046c252ec2a2a0c0c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:46.03 | *** join/#debian ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@81-67-187-21.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 14:48.55 | *** join/#debian ddsys (~ddsys@unaffiliated/ddsys) |
| 14:51.22 | *** join/#debian otisolsen70 (~otisolsen@x50d248d8.cust.hiper.dk) |
| 14:51.39 | *** join/#debian autofsckk (~autofsckk@unaffiliated/autofsckk) |
| 14:52.47 | *** join/#debian Abrax (~Abrax@62.182.99.53) |
| 14:54.47 | *** join/#debian otmi (~mito@5.149.156.77) |
| 14:54.53 | *** join/#debian ChmEarl (~chmearl@unaffiliated/prymar56) |
| 14:55.48 | *** join/#debian ob-sed (~obesd@unaffiliated/obesd) |
| 14:57.16 | *** join/#debian kopiyka (~user@2001:983:fe8b:1:b26e:bfff:fe2b:503f) |
| 14:57.45 | *** join/#debian jmd (~user@de.cellform.com) |
| 14:58.05 | jmd | Does anyone have a recommendation for an offline HTML validator? |
| 14:58.32 | *** join/#debian geowiesnot (~user@i15-les02-ix2-87-89-181-157.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 15:03.16 | *** join/#debian AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@unaffiliated/aqual1te) |
| 15:05.23 | *** join/#debian endstille (~endstille@2a00:6020:1dfd:5900:5083:5b09:5385:263b) |
| 15:05.24 | *** join/#debian lead_pipe23 (~Lead@38.146.84.50) |
| 15:05.30 | nkuttler | jmd: i think the w3 validator can be downloaded as a jar |
| 15:06.10 | jmd | Yeah but its huge and its java |
| 15:06.15 | nkuttler | jmd: sorry, this https://github.com/validator/validator |
| 15:07.17 | *** join/#debian nksegos (~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-416-128.w90-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:07.37 | *** join/#debian lastwish (~lastwish@host-217-214-147-253.mobileonline.telia.com) |
| 15:09.19 | *** join/#debian Spr1ng (~Spr1ng@unaffiliated/spr1ng) |
| 15:11.39 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 15:16.35 | *** join/#debian hyskaru (~hyskaru@unaffiliated/hyskaru) |
| 15:17.44 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 15:22.02 | *** join/#debian lisco___ (~lisco@50-240-124-121-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 15:22.04 | *** join/#debian Tier__ (~dastier@178.172.192.75) |
| 15:22.04 | *** join/#debian enko-h (~enko@unaffiliated/enko) |
| 15:22.17 | *** join/#debian hofer (~username@unaffiliated/tieinv) |
| 15:22.36 | *** join/#debian udet_ (~RalphBa@ve603.venus.servdiscount-customer.com) |
| 15:23.58 | *** join/#debian jrgill2 (~jrgill@unaffiliated/jrgill) |
| 15:24.20 | *** join/#debian syne (~ellisgeek@131.93.249.144) |
| 15:24.48 | *** join/#debian shoogz- (~shoogz@unaffiliated/shoogz) |
| 15:24.57 | *** join/#debian dez (uid92154@fedora/deSouza) |
| 15:25.20 | *** join/#debian blueness_ (~blueness@gentoo/developer/blueness) |
| 15:25.23 | *** join/#debian Q_Continuum (~quassel@174-20-0-38.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 15:25.27 | *** join/#debian waxfire0 (~waxfire@152.89.209.134) |
| 15:25.50 | *** join/#debian Arrowmaster (~Arrowmast@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 15:25.59 | *** join/#debian meLon (~meLon@unaffiliated/earthmelon) |
| 15:26.51 | *** join/#debian Amun_Ra (~amun-ra@retro.rocks) |
| 15:26.57 | *** join/#debian zykotick9 (~zykotick9@fsf/member/zykotick9) |
| 15:27.06 | *** join/#debian ddevault (znc@sourcehut/staff/ddevault) |
| 15:27.06 | *** join/#debian jhutchins (~jonathan@136.34.212.57) |
| 15:27.36 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@unaffiliated/towo/x-4064351) |
| 15:30.35 | *** join/#debian alx^ (~alx^@85-195-239-17.fiber7.init7.net) |
| 15:39.27 | *** join/#debian b1ack0p (~M@unaffiliated/blackop) |
| 15:40.48 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@188.208.122.92) |
| 15:41.15 | *** join/#debian BCMM (~BCMM@unaffiliated/bcmm) |
| 15:47.03 | *** join/#debian Kevlar_Noir (~manjaro-u@2a01:e0a:5d7:e1e0:1119:628c:e282:2954) |
| 15:49.18 | *** join/#debian nebunez (~user@c-73-35-73-198.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 15:51.23 | *** join/#debian czesmir (~stefan@egg102.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 15:53.35 | *** join/#debian starch (~user@200.red-83-61-200.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:58.06 | *** join/#debian rsx (~rsx@ppp-188-174-143-30.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 15:59.51 | *** join/#debian Ark74 (~Ark74@200.68.142.118) |
| 16:07.55 | *** join/#debian webmind (~webmind@2001:980:76a0:1:5e26:aff:fe08:ee6f) |
| 16:14.52 | *** join/#debian berlise1 (~Thunderbi@cpc139076-jarr15-2-0-cust117.16-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 16:15.23 | *** join/#debian cek (uid23454@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhbydqvrdcjedijp) |
| 16:16.02 | *** join/#debian ballot (~darkalia@162.213.32.10) |
| 16:16.12 | cek | I need to download old package for debian 10. Where do I look? |
| 16:16.31 | cek | Do I get it right it went from 80 directly to 83? - https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/chromium/ |
| 16:16.46 | cek | what is ver 81 for? |
| 16:17.33 | *** join/#debian kent (~kent@213-67-53-121-no157.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 16:17.54 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (crazyed@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy) |
| 16:23.09 | *** join/#debian saxin (~saxin@ip-139-27-203-109.eidsiva.net) |
| 16:25.42 | *** join/#debian nickodd (~nickodd@unaffiliated/nickodd) |
| 16:25.47 | *** join/#debian Aehuse2a (~Aehuse2a@85-76-1-249-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 16:28.55 | *** join/#debian raidghost (raidghost@unaffiliated/raidghost) |
| 16:29.09 | raidghost | How can i set a network interface to be blank but active ? |
| 16:30.27 | dfacto | blank as in no address? |
| 16:31.39 | *** join/#debian eki (~eki@dsl-hkibng41-54f858-46.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 16:32.54 | *** join/#debian lukepuke22 (~luke@c83-254-139-15.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 16:34.14 | *** join/#debian mibo (~mibo@ip-89-103-149-132.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 16:34.20 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@89.32.122.5) |
| 16:34.35 | *** join/#debian lastwish (~lastwish@host-78-79-245-192.mobileonline.telia.com) |
| 16:35.41 | raidghost | yes |
| 16:36.34 | *** join/#debian sawgood (~sawgood@unaffiliated/sawgood) |
| 16:38.23 | *** join/#debian brkiddo (~brkiddo@gateway/tor-sasl/brkiddo) |
| 16:38.46 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin (Psil0Cybin@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/psil0cybin) |
| 16:39.01 | Psil0Cybin | hey i got a question i installed an icon theme for xfce4, everything is working perfect but hwen i open thunar my home directory |
| 16:39.10 | Psil0Cybin | all folders are changed except pictures, i cleaned the cache |
| 16:39.23 | Psil0Cybin | and nothing it shows all new icons but Pictures shows the gnome folder icon how can i fix this because im OCD |
| 16:42.10 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-44c21938.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 16:43.26 | Psil0Cybin | no idea what to do except delete Pictures rename it to Pics |
| 16:43.27 | Psil0Cybin | and call it a day |
| 16:43.33 | Psil0Cybin | why on earth is it doing this? |
| 16:45.27 | *** join/#debian miskatonic (~miskatoni@2a02:810d:9fbf:f000:200:ff:fe00:1f) |
| 16:45.31 | *** join/#debian timothywcrane (~Thunderbi@2604:2d80:6711:2800:45a4:160c:fc22:9b3b) |
| 16:47.56 | *** join/#debian Night-Shade (~TimF@ip5b401e68.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 16:50.19 | *** join/#debian marcello1 (~marcello1@host-82-54-129-17.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:50.34 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@a89-183-42-241.net-htp.de) |
| 16:51.59 | *** join/#debian Hokedli (~laslie@gateway/tor-sasl/lasliedv) |
| 16:52.22 | Ashleee | m |
| 16:54.24 | BCMM | Psil0Cybin: is there a .directory file in your pictures? does it set a custom icon? |
| 16:58.02 | *** join/#debian Night-Shade (~TimF@ip5b401e68.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 17:02.35 | *** join/#debian tmroland (~tmroland@host-78-148-95-187.as13285.net) |
| 17:04.07 | b1ack0p | hi |
| 17:04.20 | b1ack0p | is there create NTFS partition option in debian installation? |
| 17:06.12 | towo` | why would anyone do that at installations time? |
| 17:07.16 | cpach | b1ack0p: maybe just leave some room for that and create it later? |
| 17:07.47 | b1ack0p | i will dual boot with winxp |
| 17:07.54 | b1ack0p | i delete entire hdd with debian disk |
| 17:07.57 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@188.208.122.175) |
| 17:08.03 | b1ack0p | i was planning to partition with xp cd |
| 17:08.09 | b1ack0p | but xp installation cannot find hdd |
| 17:08.13 | b1ack0p | so it doesnt install |
| 17:08.21 | nevivurn | XP...? |
| 17:08.27 | b1ack0p | yes |
| 17:08.28 | b1ack0p | old laptop |
| 17:08.30 | BCMM | b1ack0p: pretty sure XP didn't have a SATA driver |
| 17:08.38 | *** join/#debian karlpinc (~user@meme-net.meme.com) |
| 17:08.53 | BCMM | if it's a SATA machine, you'll need a driver floppy or a custom ISO to install |
| 17:09.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1155] by debhelper |
| 17:09.20 | b1ack0p | well previously it was installed |
| 17:09.29 | b1ack0p | i just wanted to give larger space to debian |
| 17:09.40 | BCMM | yeah, if it was an OEM install it would have had a SATA driver added by the OEM |
| 17:09.41 | b1ack0p | so i deleted entire disk with debian installation |
| 17:09.54 | b1ack0p | and i wanted to create partition with xp first |
| 17:09.59 | BCMM | i *think* a "driver floppy" can be a USB stick for XP |
| 17:10.19 | BCMM | it's not the lack of an NTFS partition that's stopping the XP installer from seeing the disk |
| 17:10.57 | *** join/#debian snwfdhmp (~snwfdhmp@lfbn-lil-1-331-68.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:11.06 | *** part/#debian jaggz (~jaggz@unaffiliated/jaggz) |
| 17:11.09 | *** join/#debian ndegruchy (~ndegruchy@fsf/member/ndegruchy) |
| 17:11.54 | b1ack0p | grrr |
| 17:11.59 | b1ack0p | i dont know what to do now |
| 17:12.30 | *** join/#debian snwfdhmp1 (~snwfdhmp@lfbn-lil-1-331-68.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:12.55 | BCMM | b1ack0p: well, is it a SATA hdd? |
| 17:13.43 | b1ack0p | BCMM: yes it is |
| 17:13.51 | *** join/#debian snwfdhmp1 (~snwfdhmp@lfbn-lil-1-331-68.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:15.39 | *** join/#debian emper0r (5d28bb12@93-40-187-18.ip40.fastwebnet.it) |
| 17:15.46 | *** join/#debian snwfdhmp (~snwfdhmp@lfbn-lil-1-331-68.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:17.12 | emper0r | hi to everyone.. exist a command to show like a gant graphic... when start a command all process until finish.. to know in what process will be more slow !? |
| 17:19.23 | *** join/#debian banox (~banox@95.174.66.228) |
| 17:20.54 | *** join/#debian fnaticrisk (~fnaticris@2804:d59:7f1e:2b00:3697:f6ff:feeb:3808) |
| 17:21.37 | towo` | b1ack0p, don't tell nonsense, xp would even see a blank disk, if it has a driver |
| 17:22.12 | towo` | b1ack0p, but as sayed before, xp has no sata driver, so it can't see the entire disc, so a ntfs partition would not help |
| 17:22.39 | b1ack0p | towo`: :S, |
| 17:23.09 | towo` | and no one would install xp nowdays, it's dead since years |
| 17:28.05 | *** part/#debian reintegrated (~iain@cpc108195-wake9-2-0-cust179.17-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 17:28.47 | *** join/#debian alexandros_c (~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531) |
| 17:28.53 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at) |
| 17:29.13 | b1ack0p | towo`: fixed :p |
| 17:29.19 | b1ack0p | i had to change sata mode in bios |
| 17:29.57 | *** join/#debian Kevlar_Noir (~manjaro-u@2a01:e0a:5d7:e1e0:1119:628c:e282:2954) |
| 17:30.16 | towo` | yes, now you have activated the brake for the hd drive |
| 17:31.08 | b1ack0p | yes |
| 17:33.52 | oerheks | LVM is awesome. |
| 17:34.13 | flayer | you are awesome |
| 17:34.19 | *** join/#debian polyphem (~p0lyph3m@2a02:810d:640:776c:76d7:55f6:f85b:c889) |
| 17:36.45 | *** join/#debian platvoeten (~platvoete@178-85-122-247.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 17:42.59 | *** join/#debian n_1-c_k (~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70) |
| 17:45.19 | *** join/#debian dominic34 (Thunderbir@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/dominic34) |
| 17:50.40 | *** join/#debian apus (~apus@gateway/tor-sasl/apus) |
| 17:52.08 | *** join/#debian icebit_ (~marco@host-79-33-72-74.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:52.14 | *** join/#debian thatpythonguy (~thatpytho@c-71-228-196-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 17:52.33 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipd114.250.tellas.gr) |
| 17:55.45 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@163.114.131.1) |
| 17:56.46 | *** join/#debian b1ack0p (~m@unaffiliated/blackop) |
| 17:57.19 | *** join/#debian alex_c (~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531) |
| 17:57.39 | *** join/#debian ndegruchy (~ndegruchy@fsf/member/ndegruchy) |
| 17:57.39 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 18:00.24 | *** join/#debian nurupo (~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo) |
| 18:01.33 | *** join/#debian s_ (rootvegeta@fsf/member/hays) |
| 18:01.46 | *** join/#debian gelignite (~gelignite@55d49fbc.access.ecotel.net) |
| 18:02.05 | cek | guys, why is https://www.freetype.org/freetype2/docs/rasterinfo/rasterinfo.html showing me no truetype interpreter is active? |
| 18:09.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1144] by debhelper |
| 18:11.14 | *** join/#debian Tyrasuki (~Tyrasuki@82.197.169.84) |
| 18:13.51 | *** join/#debian shabius (~shabius@45.15.17.130) |
| 18:16.11 | *** join/#debian dominic34 (Thunderbir@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/dominic34) |
| 18:16.53 | *** join/#debian voidSurfr (~todd_dsm@ip68-225-227-86.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 18:17.39 | *** join/#debian mvaenskae (~mvaenskae@unaffiliated/mvaenskae) |
| 18:19.53 | *** join/#debian JohnML (~john1@ip-178-202-6-107.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 18:20.40 | *** join/#debian ddsys (~ddsys@unaffiliated/ddsys) |
| 18:22.00 | *** join/#debian mihi (~mihi@p5491b315.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:22.40 | *** join/#debian mvaenskae (~mvaenskae@unaffiliated/mvaenskae) |
| 18:29.59 | *** join/#debian erle- (~stephan@2a04:ee41:3:3297:750e:89b1:9656:1ba6) |
| 18:37.19 | *** join/#debian hussar (~hussar@modemcable027.157-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 18:37.46 | *** join/#debian nksegos (~Thunderbi@lfbn-ann-1-416-128.w90-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:38.05 | *** join/#debian AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@unaffiliated/aqual1te) |
| 18:39.58 | *** join/#debian platvoeten (~platvoete@178-85-122-247.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 18:42.37 | *** part/#debian nickodd (~nickodd@unaffiliated/nickodd) |
| 18:48.28 | *** join/#debian AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@unaffiliated/aqual1te) |
| 18:49.47 | *** join/#debian nicolaf (~nicolaf@2a01:cb14:2d7:e000:dcbe:c1d5:a97f:c050) |
| 18:50.10 | *** join/#debian Jerrynicki (~niklas@p200300f57702b70046c252ec2a2a0c0c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:52.45 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@220.240.225.160) |
| 18:53.48 | *** part/#debian mra90 (Martin@nat/intel/x-ctzzcxrmgvsewcml) |
| 18:55.51 | *** join/#debian LCRERGO (~lucas@186.209.70.167) |
| 18:56.59 | LCRERGO | does anyone know if I should set something for the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS variable be set? |
| 18:57.19 | LCRERGO | I'm not used to using dbus |
| 18:58.04 | *** join/#debian ||JD|| (~jd@gateway/tor-sasl/jd/x-90934411) |
| 19:00.30 | ||JD|| | I'm getting "the exchange of keys and association with the access point failed" when the installer tries to setup the network, I'm using a 802.11 USB dongle and the AP is on WPA2-PSK |
| 19:00.55 | ||JD|| | I'm never offered to pick the SSID even when it's being streamed, I need to enter it manually |
| 19:01.05 | ||JD|| | Any ideas? |
| 19:01.42 | *** join/#debian trysten (~user@unaffiliated/trysten) |
| 19:02.19 | b1ack0p | hi again |
| 19:02.28 | b1ack0p | i have now 100gb free space |
| 19:02.29 | *** join/#debian k4nz (~Thunderbi@125.120.162.153) |
| 19:02.47 | b1ack0p | how can i encyript it and create partition with swap? |
| 19:02.55 | *** join/#debian greycat (~greg@209.142.155.49) |
| 19:03.02 | miskatonic | cool, so use them wisely by not installing gnome3 |
| 19:03.21 | *** join/#debian Conradish006 (~conradish@c-68-39-198-234.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 19:03.28 | b1ack0p | lol yea i will install xfce for sure |
| 19:03.39 | b1ack0p | but how will i configure? |
| 19:03.47 | b1ack0p | Configure encyrpted volumes? |
| 19:04.18 | *** join/#debian qqx (~qqx@pug.qqx.org) |
| 19:04.40 | miskatonic | i never encrypted anything on debian, and never used lvm, either; so I don't know |
| 19:06.09 | b1ack0p | then who knows= |
| 19:06.10 | b1ack0p | ? |
| 19:07.00 | greycat | You. You choose. You do what you think is correct. |
| 19:07.57 | b1ack0p | i dont know how to make it |
| 19:08.11 | b1ack0p | click on configure encyrpted volumes without partitioning? |
| 19:08.22 | b1ack0p | or just do guided install entire free space? |
| 19:10.03 | *** join/#debian jess (jess@bitbot/jess) |
| 19:11.07 | b1ack0p | should i encyrpt swap area also? |
| 19:11.12 | b1ack0p | or just ext4 partition? |
| 19:16.04 | EdePopede | miskatonic: +1 to the gnome comment |
| 19:17.05 | EdePopede | b1ack0p: is this a partition or a whole disc? |
| 19:17.16 | b1ack0p | EdePopede: just partition |
| 19:17.25 | b1ack0p | dual booting with windos |
| 19:19.23 | *** join/#debian Betal (~Betal@unaffiliated/betal) |
| 19:21.03 | EdePopede | if you're unsure and you don't depend on that partition, take your time, play with it. just take care not to let anything spill over. |
| 19:21.42 | EdePopede | you may try different options, just to see how they work out for you. who knows, may answer a future question before it even arises. |
| 19:22.09 | b1ack0p | i think i did something bad.. |
| 19:22.34 | b1ack0p | erasing data on SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #5 (sda) |
| 19:22.34 | EdePopede | you installed kali on it? |
| 19:22.44 | b1ack0p | does it mean erasing entire disk? |
| 19:22.54 | EdePopede | you know you can ls things in the grub prompt? |
| 19:23.08 | EdePopede | and even access files by path |
| 19:23.08 | b1ack0p | i am on debian installation menu.. |
| 19:23.23 | b1ack0p | what s that SCSI1 sda ? |
| 19:23.26 | b1ack0p | entire disk? |
| 19:23.37 | *** join/#debian zphinx (zphinx@box.encrypt.se) |
| 19:23.38 | EdePopede | part 5 sounds like a partition (maybe on sda) |
| 19:23.50 | b1ack0p | not entire disk? |
| 19:23.53 | b1ack0p | hope so |
| 19:23.54 | EdePopede | go to another terminal and check what's available |
| 19:24.03 | b1ack0p | because i have choosen encyript freespace |
| 19:24.20 | b1ack0p | can i open command line even on installation menu? |
| 19:24.32 | b1ack0p | it is still erasing SCSI1 now |
| 19:24.36 | EdePopede | iirc the usual way (alt-f2) should work |
| 19:24.40 | b1ack0p | 11% finished |
| 19:24.42 | greycat | tty2 is a terminal during the installer |
| 19:25.06 | b1ack0p | ~ # |
| 19:25.06 | apt | somebody said # was pound, or hash, or sometimes the number sign. a tic-tac-toe board, or octothorpe |
| 19:25.10 | b1ack0p | is this tty = |
| 19:25.11 | b1ack0p | ? |
| 19:25.13 | EdePopede | yep |
| 19:25.18 | EdePopede | yer friendly prompt |
| 19:25.20 | b1ack0p | what s the command to check partitions? |
| 19:25.25 | b1ack0p | :p |
| 19:25.31 | b1ack0p | lsblk didnt work |
| 19:25.34 | b1ack0p | not found |
| 19:25.41 | miskatonic | the shell on the install procedure is probably dash, isn't it? |
| 19:25.42 | EdePopede | i'd do the usual fdisk/gdisk first |
| 19:26.01 | *** join/#debian hbautista (~hbautista@177.249.161.114) |
| 19:26.01 | greycat | doesn't really matter what the shell is... what matter is what *tools* are available, and pathetically few of them are |
| 19:26.02 | b1ack0p | fdisk not found |
| 19:26.12 | EdePopede | not sure if file is available for a `file -s` on the device files |
| 19:26.17 | b1ack0p | gdisk not found |
| 19:26.29 | b1ack0p | file not found |
| 19:26.34 | b1ack0p | it is free space |
| 19:26.43 | b1ack0p | i mean it doesnt find anythng |
| 19:26.51 | *** join/#debian leorat (~leorat@unaffiliated/leorat) |
| 19:26.53 | EdePopede | tab, see what you have |
| 19:27.07 | dob1 | how can I check default grub entry? |
| 19:27.33 | b1ack0p | fsck |
| 19:27.36 | greycat | read /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 19:27.37 | b1ack0p | a lot things |
| 19:27.48 | b1ack0p | how can i scroll up= |
| 19:27.48 | dob1 | greycat, I tried but it's the first one? |
| 19:27.49 | b1ack0p | ? |
| 19:28.20 | greycat | yes, it's the first menuentry unless you override that by setting some variable |
| 19:28.29 | b1ack0p | ok good #5 is partition |
| 19:28.39 | b1ack0p | not entire disk |
| 19:28.40 | *** join/#debian berlise1 (~Thunderbi@cpc139076-jarr15-2-0-cust117.16-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:28.49 | greycat | fancy, that, "partition #5" is a partition. whodaguessed. |
| 19:28.57 | b1ack0p | :p |
| 19:29.19 | b1ack0p | lets wait that erases |
| 19:29.25 | b1ack0p | it may take long time |
| 19:29.44 | b1ack0p | i need to reboot btw |
| 19:29.46 | b1ack0p | see ya in a bit |
| 19:29.59 | EdePopede | the '(sda)' is indeed confusing |
| 19:30.42 | sney | one of those situations where it helps to read the whole message |
| 19:30.56 | *** join/#debian berlise1 (~Thunderbi@cpc139076-jarr15-2-0-cust117.16-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:35.41 | berlise1 | hello all. I'm having trouble downloading apps from github any help would be appreciated. tried search google and tried a a lot of different things that came up with still no joy |
| 19:36.24 | berlise1 | oh I'm using kali |
| 19:36.28 | sney | !kali |
| 19:36.28 | dpkg | Kali Linux https://www.kali.org/ is a security/penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is different enough that we can't provide accurate support in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or https://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian> and read https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html |
| 19:37.21 | berlise1 | ok thxs I'll take it else where |
| 19:38.22 | *** join/#debian Night-Shade (~TimF@ip5b401e68.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 19:41.33 | *** join/#debian nifker (~Thunderbi@200116b80aacb400c43ddcefef6c1cd3.dip.versatel-1u1.de) |
| 19:42.59 | *** join/#debian b1ack0p (~m@unaffiliated/blackop) |
| 19:43.42 | BCMM | When i upgraded to python 3.8.4~rc1-1, beets stopped working. Should I file a bug for python or for beets? |
| 19:44.04 | jmd | yes. |
| 19:44.33 | greycat | ,v python3 |
| 19:44.35 | judd | Package: python3 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.4.2-2; stretch: 3.5.3-1; buster: 3.7.3-1; bullseye: 3.8.2-3; sid: 3.8.2-3 |
| 19:44.40 | greycat | What OS are you even using? |
| 19:44.44 | BCMM | sid |
| 19:44.48 | binaryhermit | Maybe someone with more knowledge than me can inform me better, but I'd file it against beets |
| 19:45.19 | binaryhermit | also, #debian-next on OFTC |
| 19:45.21 | greycat | https://packages.debian.org/sid/python3 also says 3.8.2-3 |
| 19:45.39 | BCMM | ,v python3.8 |
| 19:45.40 | judd | Package: python3.8 on amd64 -- bullseye: 3.8.3-1; sid: 3.8.4~rc1-1 |
| 19:45.56 | greycat | Hilarious. |
| 19:46.05 | greycat | !pal sid users |
| 19:46.05 | dpkg | points at sid users and laughs uproariously |
| 19:46.13 | binaryhermit | Offtopic-ish for here, but I assume bullseye/sid removed python2 |
| 19:46.19 | BCMM | greycat: (check the deps of the python3 package; it's basically a metapackage) |
| 19:46.44 | annadane | typically bug reports filed erroneously under one thing get assigned but i'd probably file the bug against beets itself |
| 19:46.54 | annadane | s/assigned/reassigned |
| 19:46.57 | sney | I wouldn't count on a "rc1" python build to not have some random regression in it, so maybe wait for the next one to roll in before worrying about bug reports for an ephemeral package |
| 19:47.08 | annadane | yeah that too |
| 19:47.30 | BCMM | sney: i mean, presumably the whole point of a release candidate is that people report the problems before it gets made in to the final release, right? |
| 19:47.49 | binaryhermit | that said, RC builds are thought to maybe be release quality, I believe |
| 19:47.49 | BCMM | annadane: yeah, i was thinking that whatever i do it's gonna somehow end up assigned to the other one, so i should just pick one |
| 19:47.55 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 19:47.55 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. See also https://wiki.debian.org/IRC and https://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc |
| 19:48.08 | binaryhermit | obviously, emphasis on maybe in "maybe be release quality" |
| 19:48.41 | binaryhermit | IIRC there was a ubuntu like almost 15 years ago that had horrible kernel breakage in the RC |
| 19:48.42 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 19:48.49 | binaryhermit | so that's not always true |
| 19:48.53 | BCMM | greycat: yeah, i know about debian-next, but i've had no reply in three hours. i'm not asking for a fix, though - i'm asking for more general advice about how to file Debian bugs. |
| 19:48.57 | binaryhermit | feisty I think? |
| 19:49.08 | sney | TBH it may be best to ask in #python with a pastebin of the error and see if they have any feedback about whose problem it is |
| 19:49.20 | BCMM | oh, that might be a point |
| 19:50.58 | BCMM | i'll try #python, thanks |
| 19:52.20 | *** join/#debian leorat (~leorat@unaffiliated/leorat) |
| 19:53.47 | *** join/#debian aeWessan (~aeWessan@2a01:4b00:9609:2300:1c72:e772:f9b1:380b) |
| 19:53.53 | BCMM | actually, pretty sure it's technically a beets bug. i mean, "makes the package in question unusable" is a Serious reason, and there isn't really one for making dependant packages unusable |
| 19:54.03 | dob1 | I have this source.list for debian stretch https://dpaste.org/UUrq, I want to upgrade to buster, can I just replace stretch with buster, right? |
| 19:54.25 | sney | dob1: and disable backports/3rd party repos, yes |
| 19:54.35 | sney | dpkg: stretch->buster |
| 19:54.35 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/JFKc . TL;DR: In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "stretch" to "buster", remove lines like stretch-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade |
| 19:54.38 | dob1 | sney, why disable backports? |
| 19:54.46 | *** join/#debian k4nz (~Thunderbi@125.120.162.153) |
| 19:55.00 | dob1 | I would change it to stretch-backports |
| 19:55.07 | dob1 | *buster-backports |
| 19:55.14 | *** join/#debian cstls (~guy@cpe-198-255-243-231.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 19:55.24 | sney | you can re-enable them after the upgrade is finishes, but having anything other than the main mirrors enabled during an upgrade can cause weird dependency issues. |
| 19:55.42 | dob1 | ok, so virtualbox too |
| 19:55.44 | dob1 | thanks |
| 19:55.48 | sney | np |
| 20:01.19 | *** join/#debian platvoeten (~platvoete@178-85-122-247.dynamic.upc.nl) |
| 20:01.56 | *** join/#debian pacbard (~pacbard@150.136.6.216) |
| 20:02.19 | dob1 | ah but I don't have to use dist-upgrade anymore? I have to use upgrade and then full-upgrade? |
| 20:02.47 | greycat | it's "apt full-upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade", but I think they also share each other's arguments for compatibility |
| 20:03.24 | dob1 | and apt-get upgrade? |
| 20:03.42 | greycat | dpkg apt vs. apt-get |
| 20:03.42 | dpkg | apt is promoted over apt-get for interactive use. It uses fancy colors and has output format differences. It removes the .deb files that it downloads during an install or upgrade. It installs new packages during upgrades. apt-get has a stable command-line interface and is promoted for scripting. |
| 20:03.52 | *** join/#debian krytarik (krytarik@xebian/developer/krytarik) |
| 20:04.05 | *** join/#debian eternal_updates (~eternal_u@unaffiliated/eternal-updates/x-8681717) |
| 20:04.19 | dob1 | so I will go for the fancy colors :) |
| 20:04.36 | greycat | hope your terminals use a dark background |
| 20:04.54 | dob1 | I am doing it via putty |
| 20:04.56 | miskatonic | I use white background |
| 20:05.20 | greycat | my terminals have a white background too, which is one of the primary reasons I don't use apt |
| 20:09.16 | *** join/#debian b1ack0p (~m@unaffiliated/blackop) |
| 20:09.58 | miskatonic | blackop done with installing debian? |
| 20:12.42 | *** join/#debian satanist (~satanist@unaffiliated/satanist) |
| 20:13.10 | *** join/#debian shibboleth (~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth) |
| 20:13.45 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 20:15.55 | *** join/#debian leorat (~leorat@unaffiliated/leorat) |
| 20:16.00 | *** join/#debian satanist (~satanist@unaffiliated/satanist) |
| 20:16.38 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin (Psil0Cybin@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/psil0cybin) |
| 20:16.59 | Psil0Cybin | hey guys i know this is not a debian issue per say, but i am trying to install pfsesne on a minipc burning the iso file with dd, but it doesnt boot while Debian iso does boot |
| 20:17.08 | Psil0Cybin | what am i doing wrong? how can i check if an iso file is corrupted? |
| 20:17.14 | Psil0Cybin | as it wont boot on my mini pc or my laptop. |
| 20:18.18 | *** join/#debian plutes (~plutes@unaffiliated/plutes) |
| 20:18.38 | sney | you would need to make sure the pfsense iso is a hybrid image, as not all of them are. they may have a different file for usb. also run 'sync' before removing the usb stick. |
| 20:19.16 | sney | any further questions should go to #pfsense |
| 20:21.03 | *** join/#debian pacbard (~pacbard@150.136.6.216) |
| 20:26.33 | *** join/#debian Cavedude (~Cavedude@unaffiliated/cavedude) |
| 20:28.00 | *** join/#debian timur_davletshin (~timur_dav@unaffiliated/timur-davletshin/x-6536285) |
| 20:29.04 | *** join/#debian njka- (~njka-@unaffiliated/njka) |
| 20:35.13 | *** join/#debian kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugaeelhrwqwputxh) |
| 20:35.37 | *** join/#debian zv (~zv@unaffiliated/zv) |
| 20:35.52 | zv | I've got 3 dozen Windows exes I'm running under WINE, each of which performs expensive work at startup before reading a filename (from argv) and exiting. I'd like to start a pool of them as workers who read a "psuedofile" that blocks until I write bytes to that psuedofile, thus completing a new request without the length startup time. |
| 20:35.53 | zv | I've tried using FIFOs but every one of them doesn't treat it as a file and therefore can't read from it. Is there anything I can do to create a "real" file that will block it's readers, which I can write to from another process that is *not* a FIFO? |
| 20:38.22 | *** join/#debian tradar (~tradar@gateway/tor-sasl/tradar) |
| 20:38.29 | greycat | Just out of curiosity, what happens when this windows program opens the FIFO? How does it fail? |
| 20:39.36 | *** join/#debian loptr (~loptr@lfbn-str-1-94-84.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:40.38 | zv | It depends, some have a general complaint they can't find the file, some can't open it, some segfault, some complain "NtReadFile cannot complete" |
| 20:42.32 | zv | others still will "work", but it's clear they've just read 0 bytes. |
| 20:43.28 | greycat | Well, you already know the correct answer, I assume. (Replace the Windows programs with native Linux programs.) |
| 20:44.13 | zv | unfortunately the vendors want cash just to recompile the applications to read files from stdin or a socket |
| 20:44.25 | *** join/#debian Delf (Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 20:44.51 | *** join/#debian ceska (~Cieska@95.145.197.4) |
| 20:45.02 | Delf | My chromium has become extremely slow since last update. Clues? |
| 20:45.04 | zv | i'm trying to give the public a fair comparison in how they work and they're acting like i'm the butt |
| 20:46.54 | *** join/#debian mzajc (~marko@unaffiliated/mzajc) |
| 20:48.06 | *** join/#debian aidanpr (~aidanpr@205-185-113-93.las.blamefran.net) |
| 20:48.44 | zv | I was thinking someone would know some magic with mknod, FUSE or even WINE itself that could do this |
| 20:48.55 | *** join/#debian berlise2 (~Thunderbi@cpc139076-jarr15-2-0-cust117.16-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 20:50.27 | zv | Delf: take a look at perf, e.g `perf record -g -- google-chrome`, play around with it for awhile and then do `perf report` |
| 20:50.36 | *** join/#debian berlise1 (~Thunderbi@cpc139076-jarr15-2-0-cust117.16-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 20:52.30 | zv | that will give you an idea at the low level. It could also be an issue with an extension, which you can check out within the 'chrome://extensions/' tab, inspecting each one |
| 20:53.23 | zv | "inspecting" meaning, looking at the "background page" link which will pop open the "Inspector" / Devtools |
| 20:56.02 | *** join/#debian tonyoy (~tonyoy@2a01:e0a:507:82b0:6e62:5d0a:a360:530f) |
| 20:58.32 | *** join/#debian emilsp (~emilsp@freenode/staff/emilsp) |
| 20:59.10 | *** join/#debian otyugh (~otyugh@2a01cb08854e06008917a21f7d23e898.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:59.43 | otyugh | from bash, is there a way to script "detect if my debian version is obsolete" ? |
| 21:00.08 | EdePopede | "obsolete"? |
| 21:00.23 | EdePopede | if there's a new stable? |
| 21:01.01 | sney | parse /etc/debian_version and compare it to the value of 'stable' on a mirror? |
| 21:01.05 | otyugh | you now - sid, testing, stable, oldstable, oldoldstable, and the obsoletes non-maintened stuff |
| 21:01.06 | EdePopede | out of the blue, you could compare the repo links to your release to the stable ones |
| 21:01.14 | Delf | zv: Thank you but this pref tool is way too advance for me. I don't understand what I'm looking at. |
| 21:01.26 | otyugh | *know |
| 21:02.08 | *** join/#debian martian67 (~martian67@about/linux/regular/martian67) |
| 21:02.34 | sney | Delf: try with a new profile or in safe mode, I don't remember the command line argument offhand but it should be easy to find online |
| 21:03.43 | *** join/#debian Logg (~Logg@76.72.182.181) |
| 21:04.30 | *** join/#debian pacbard (~pacbard@150.136.6.216) |
| 21:04.48 | zv | Delf: sney has a good point, you could try `google-chrome --user-data-dir=/tmp/chrome-test` and see if it's any better |
| 21:06.01 | sney | chromium, not google-chrome, but same otherwise |
| 21:07.48 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 21:09.32 | Delf | It's still extremely slow, no difference |
| 21:10.00 | Delf | Friend of mine also experiencing the same after they updated |
| 21:10.06 | greycat | otyugh: no, we don't "know" (or "now"). You'd need to maintain a central web-based or other resource that the script can read to find out what the "current version" is. Then just compare that to the contents of /etc/debian_version. |
| 21:10.09 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@unaffiliated/mtn) |
| 21:10.51 | greycat | Right now, that file should say "10.4". If it says anything else, you can just write an error message. |
| 21:10.59 | otyugh | greycat: yup, won't be too hard to do a hack. |
| 21:11.15 | sney | this smells like a nagios check |
| 21:11.18 | otyugh | just wanted to make sure there wasn't already a solution |
| 21:11.38 | *** join/#debian housecat (~dax@ubuntu/member/dax) |
| 21:11.54 | greycat | a "solution" to a problem that only exists in your mind |
| 21:12.03 | *** join/#debian paradizelost8 (~paradizel@24-220-219-101-dynamic.midco.net) |
| 21:12.29 | sney | Delf: could be a bug, check the BTS. also check the changelog for "feature" updates that might be conflicting with something on your system, e.g. hardware acceleration behavior or whatever |
| 21:12.30 | greycat | If the *actual* goal is "I want all my machines to stay up to date", install unattended-upgrades, and follow the DSA mailing list so you know when you reboot 'em all. |
| 21:12.34 | otyugh | (it's to automatically prompt user that don't know anything about versions "your computer need an upgrade, go to an install party") |
| 21:12.46 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 21:12.51 | greycat | What are you, their mommy? |
| 21:13.14 | otyugh | Did you ever met beginners ? ^^' |
| 21:13.20 | otyugh | like really. |
| 21:13.55 | otyugh | There is a bunch of >60 years old that can't even drag a mouse yet |
| 21:13.57 | *** join/#debian null1337 (~WhoAmI@c-76-120-12-221.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 21:15.48 | sney | otyugh: don't mind greycat, he's professionally grumpy. you may want to check nagios exchange, someone else may have already invented this wheel, and nagios checks are just shell scripts that you could repurpose for what you're doing pretty easily |
| 21:16.34 | otyugh | sney: well one line of curl + check /etc/debian_release do the trick. |
| 21:18.32 | sney | until you run into some edge case that your script doesn't know how to handle, anyway. but I guess that's half the fun. |
| 21:21.46 | *** join/#debian bkraptor (~bkraptor@unaffiliated/bkraptor) |
| 21:23.30 | EdePopede | otyugh: they really should have played the games that came with windows, their only purpose was teaching users new things ;) |
| 21:25.18 | sney | eh, I've supported senior citizen users before and the best option often *is* to make the computer hold their hand |
| 21:25.20 | EdePopede | btw i had a oneliner doing the same job for youtube-dl, they have a static "latest" link with a redirect to the actual url with the version in the link. |
| 21:27.41 | *** join/#debian nebunez (~user@2600:1700:3260:ccf0::29) |
| 21:28.40 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 21:31.09 | *** join/#debian debsan_ (~debsan@unaffiliated/debsan) |
| 21:38.14 | Delf | sney: BTS? |
| 21:38.21 | sney | !bts |
| 21:38.21 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 21:39.52 | *** join/#debian mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) |
| 21:40.55 | *** join/#debian Johann (~cisswit@ns3352991.ip-37-187-17.eu) |
| 21:41.00 | *** join/#debian tijara (~tijara@dynamic-adsl-78-14-51-194.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 21:41.35 | *** join/#debian NightTrain (coffee@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/b) |
| 21:41.39 | Delf | Ahh! Changelog, you mean this one? https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/chromium/chromium_83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1_changelog |
| 21:42.37 | sney | yes, as well as anything from google in case the debian changelog just says "new upstream release" |
| 21:42.52 | Delf | I cannot access the debians changelog for chromium |
| 21:43.15 | sney | you can 'apt changelog chromium' from your system |
| 21:45.16 | *** join/#debian leorat (~leorat@unaffiliated/leorat) |
| 21:46.43 | Delf | I can see the changelog now, it seems to be mostly security related stuff which I understand nothing of |
| 21:52.23 | *** join/#debian n_1-c_k (~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70) |
| 21:54.01 | Delf | Thank you sney |
| 21:54.09 | sney | np |
| 21:59.35 | *** join/#debian b1ack0p (~m@unaffiliated/blackop) |
| 22:06.17 | *** join/#debian voidSurfr (~todd_dsm@ip68-225-227-86.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 22:06.29 | *** join/#debian this_paradis (~this_para@orava.sosdk.sk) |
| 22:06.37 | *** join/#debian nullheroes (~danielvu@168.235.66.22) |
| 22:07.54 | *** join/#debian AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@unaffiliated/aqual1te) |
| 22:09.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1138] by debhelper |
| 22:12.57 | *** join/#debian WatchDog (~WatchDog@gateway/tor-sasl/datta) |
| 22:27.48 | *** join/#debian this_paradis (~this_para@orava.sosdk.sk) |
| 22:29.38 | *** join/#debian Lord_of_Life_ (~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362) |
| 22:30.25 | *** join/#debian mnencia (~mnencia@debian/developer/mnencia) |
| 22:34.02 | *** join/#debian th0r (~th0r@233.sub-174-254-196.myvzw.com) |
| 22:34.16 | *** join/#debian Nothing4You (N4Y@nothing4you.w.tf-w.tf) |
| 22:39.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1126] by debhelper |
| 22:44.43 | *** join/#debian zv (~zv@unaffiliated/zv) |
| 22:45.11 | *** join/#debian David-- (~none@pdpc/supporter/active/david--/x-2357539) |
| 22:46.52 | David-- | Hi, I want to download Debian, but i'm not sure which version I need from the download page? amd64 arm64 armel armhf i386 mips mips64el mipsel ppc64el s390x? |
| 22:47.04 | annadane | what's your processor? |
| 22:47.12 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:47.21 | sney | if you have a modern desktop/laptop, it's almost definitely amd64. |
| 22:47.37 | dvs | uses his Itanium |
| 22:47.49 | David-- | it's a server, i'll check now... 1 sec |
| 22:48.44 | sney | amd64 is aka x86_64. if the server would otherwise run windows, that's the one. |
| 22:48.56 | *** join/#debian tmroland (~tmroland@host-78-148-95-187.as13285.net) |
| 22:49.25 | *** join/#debian wymillerlinux (~wymillerl@097-084-004-094.res.spectrum.com) |
| 22:50.21 | David-- | There's 2 processors, Xeon|E5-2667-V2|3.30Ghz|8.00GTs|25M|8C|SR19W |
| 22:50.28 | sney | yep. |
| 22:50.31 | sney | !firmware image |
| 22:50.31 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 22:50.55 | sney | it's common for dell/lenovo servers to use the bnx2 network adapter from broadcom, which requires firmware, so this is the installer you should use ^ |
| 22:51.03 | *** join/#debian factor (~factor@47-217-123-141.mskgcmta02.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 22:51.22 | David-- | is it the edu or non-edu i need? |
| 22:51.30 | David-- | yeah it's a Dell R720xd |
| 22:52.01 | David-- | i'm installing a Virtual Machine with this OS |
| 22:52.18 | sney | non edu, just the netinst |
| 22:52.34 | David-- | thanks for your help sney :) |
| 22:52.36 | sney | np |
| 22:52.50 | David-- | :) |
| 22:54.20 | *** join/#debian mitrokov (~mitrokov@5.149.156.77) |
| 22:54.33 | annadane | broadcom is distributable now? |
| 22:54.46 | sney | non-wifi is |
| 22:55.24 | David-- | sney: Sorry can I just confirm, is this version 9 and 64bit? |
| 22:55.34 | sney | David--: it's version 10 and 64bit. |
| 22:55.47 | David-- | okay cheers again pal |
| 22:55.54 | sney | np |
| 22:56.22 | *** join/#debian sedlav (~sedlav@unaffiliated/strive/x-8457361) |
| 23:00.16 | *** join/#debian Hackerpcs (~user@unaffiliated/hackerpcs) |
| 23:02.11 | *** join/#debian Salatwurzel (~user@2a02:810d:8fbf:c258:8db2:d3e2:775:c71) |
| 23:02.20 | *** join/#debian pacbard (~pacbard@150.136.6.216) |
| 23:04.22 | *** join/#debian Hunterkll (~hunterkll@2001:470:8b06:400:215:5dff:fefb:c04) |
| 23:05.10 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 23:19.16 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@c-73-24-115-100.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:23.35 | *** join/#debian mikkel (~mike@208.110.100.103) |
| 23:26.40 | *** join/#debian Colti (Miramar-FL@2a00:c1e0:0:2:0:1:208:ab5e) |
| 23:27.12 | *** join/#debian BalooRJ (baloorj@unaffiliated/baloorj) |
| 23:30.01 | *** join/#debian Garb0 (~Garb0@unaffiliated/garb0) |
| 23:30.32 | *** join/#debian Garb0 (~Garb0@unaffiliated/garb0) |
| 23:30.38 | *** join/#debian th0r (~th0r@233.sub-174-254-196.myvzw.com) |
| 23:31.49 | *** join/#debian adapter (~adapter@2601:600:c500:2d0:591:7842:a06b:a715) |
| 23:32.16 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 23:37.02 | *** join/#debian pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@unaffiliated/pingfloyd) |
| 23:37.11 | *** join/#debian troulouliou_dev (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-dev/x-4757952) |
| 23:45.44 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 23:45.57 | *** join/#debian njka- (~njka-@unaffiliated/njka) |
| 23:47.53 | *** join/#debian Mazhive (~Mazhive@143.0.33.209) |
| 23:48.38 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@89.32.122.5) |
| 23:49.45 | *** join/#debian foul_owl_ (~foul_owl@108.62.57.54) |
| 23:50.45 | *** join/#debian krabador (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) |
| 23:51.29 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@ppp-88-217-90-16.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 23:55.46 | *** join/#debian krabador (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) |
| 23:55.56 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@185.253.99.99) |
| 23:59.37 | *** join/#debian plutes (~plutes@unaffiliated/plutes) |