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| 00:35.00 | Arcaik | Hey, since libc6 got updated on Debian Sid it seems to have broken DNSSEC, but I donât know how I can confirm that. Since the update ssh is unable to validate DNSSEC for SSHFP, downgrading SSH doesnât solve the issue and since libc6 got updated at the same time, Iâm pretty sure itâs related. |
| 00:35.22 | themill | There's a NEWS item about that update that is relevant |
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| 00:35.48 | themill | (you might like to install apt-listchanges if you're running sid) |
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| 00:41.29 | dacencora | By the way, despite the toxicity from earlier, it is possible to have nvidia-drm loaded with modesetting |
| 00:41.58 | sney | not unless they added that recently |
| 00:41.59 | Arcaik | themill, thank you |
| 00:42.07 | dacencora | You need to enable it in grub kernel arguments, as well as add a .conf file to /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 00:42.31 | dacencora | I don't know what the desire is to deny it, because I have done it for years |
| 00:42.33 | sney | is it actually modesetting or are you setting grub to a higher resolution? |
| 00:43.00 | dacencora | It is using the Intel iGPU to draw NVIDIA |
| 00:43.42 | dacencora | It's by far the most perfomant way to use an Optimus laptop as far as graphics go, and is the only way to have a tear-free experience |
| 00:44.25 | sney | ah, optimus-specific. I've thus far avoided owning any of those. |
| 00:44.59 | dacencora | sney: but you spoke with such authority on the subject, that's what I don't understand |
| 00:45.13 | dacencora | It is possible, and does work |
| 00:45.22 | dacencora | So why act like it is not a thing? |
| 00:46.04 | sney | the nvidia binary blob doesn't have the fbdev component required for the kms behavior that we see with gpus that use free drivers. there are still ways to have a high resolution text console before X loads, but they are mostly workarounds |
| 00:46.19 | sney | optimus is a whole different animal and yes it makes sense that since the intel gpu is in the pipeline, you'd be able to use that |
| 00:46.42 | sney | I wasn't here for whatever previous discussion you were referring to, so I can't speak to that |
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| 00:47.02 | dacencora | Yeah it was a whole lot of nastiness and presumption |
| 00:47.19 | dacencora | But yes, I understand the issues with proprietary nvidia and framebuffer drivers |
| 00:47.25 | dacencora | *devices |
| 00:48.03 | dacencora | But in the case of my personal Optimus laptop, none of the Intel GPU fixes for screen tearing work at all, and using nvidia-drm modesetting is the only way to get it to work |
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| 00:50.07 | sney | well, email the debian wiki people to get an account, and add it to the optimus page, it may help someone in the future. |
| 00:50.56 | sney | many laptops have variant optimus configurations with different multiplexing setups that may or may not support what you did but it's probably still worth documenting |
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| 00:52.16 | dacencora | sney: well I may do that |
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| 03:04.43 | bigfluff | I'm running Buster/Gnome on my laptop, everything works great. When I run under Xfce, I find that I have a blank screen upon resume from sleep -- it seems like the screen is not getting powered on. |
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| 06:40.21 | judd | Package: librecad on amd64 -- jessie: 2.0.4-1; jessie-security: 2.0.4-1+deb8u1; stretch: 2.1.2-1+deb9u1; bullseye: 2.1.3-1.2; buster: 2.1.3-1.2; sid: 2.1.3-1.2 |
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| 10:01.20 | benjam2000 | How get rid of the "invalid signature" warnings with an "apt-get update" on debian squeeze? Are there valid keys available or is there a possiblity to deactivate the key validation? |
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| 10:09.50 | genr8_ | the keys have expired |
| 10:10.15 | avu | !jessie |
| 10:10.15 | dpkg | Jessie is the codename for the current <oldoldstable> release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25. Security support ended 2018-05-17, repos removed from mirrors around 2019-03-24, except for <jessie-lts>. Jessie is the cowgirl in Toy Story 2. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie and ask me about <install jessie> <jessie release notes> <wheezy->jessie>. Last point release was <8.11>. |
| 10:10.30 | genr8_ | Squeeze was 6 |
| 10:10.43 | avu | oh, squeeze even |
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| 10:11.01 | avu | why did my mind jump to jessie? :) |
| 10:11.18 | genr8_ | cause that would make sense |
| 10:11.35 | genr8_ | running squeeze in 2020 does not make sense |
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| 10:15.08 | genr8_ | benjam2000, try using "archive.debian.org" in the sources |
| 10:15.48 | avu | wouldn't that be the only option anyway? normal mirrors surely don't carry it at all anymore |
| 10:16.04 | genr8_ | yea, idk what he picked so |
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| 10:17.27 | genr8_ | i guess theres a way to disable the validation too but the whole using "Debian 6.0 (Squeeze), released 6 February 2011" thing and still trying to use apt-get doesnt seem right to me |
| 10:18.01 | avu | yeah, a system which hasn't received security updates in 6 years probably shouldn't be talking to the Internet :) |
| 10:18.51 | nkuttler | ugh, burn that system with fire and rebuild it |
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| 10:21.21 | Miles8of9 | update repos and dist-upgrade everything :D |
| 10:22.35 | avu | new install might be faster and easier than upgrading 6->7->8->9->10 :) |
| 10:22.44 | Miles8of9 | right |
| 10:23.08 | Miles8of9 | he can't do 6->10 |
| 10:23.29 | avu | yes, upgrades are only ever supported for n->(n+1) |
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| 10:24.17 | genr8_ | i just want to say that 9 to 10 went very well |
| 10:25.35 | genr8_ | in case youve held off |
| 10:27.29 | genr8_ | does anyone have any "Format and reinstall" debian helper scripts ? |
| 10:27.55 | genr8_ | like "save my stuff, remember my packages" kinda things |
| 10:28.09 | benjam2000 | genr8_, its an isolated system. Im already using archive.debian.org. Where to find the correct keys? |
| 10:28.49 | avu | if it can talk to archive.debian.org, it's hardly isolated :) |
| 10:29.03 | klys | genr8_, dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt; and then there's another command to say "install that stuff." |
| 10:29.16 | genr8_ | i would advise just downloading the .debs yourself and then bringing them to the "isolated system" |
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| 10:30.16 | sklv1 | Hi, I have a GPU that has had a corrupt firmware flashed by windows update, and as a result is only booting in VGA graphics mode. I have attached the GPU to a debian 10 VM. |
| 10:30.26 | benjam2000 | genr8_, Is there a possiblity to be able to install packages via "apt-get install" ? |
| 10:30.58 | sklv1 | If i install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu, it says that it will flash the firmware on next boot. However, it does not appear to work. |
| 10:31.13 | genr8_ | yes, but its not advised and im not ok with helping you do it :P |
| 10:31.20 | sklv1 | Is there a way to manually flash the firmware "right now" without rebooting? |
| 10:31.57 | sklv1 | To clarify the debian VM has a QXL display attached, as well as the PCIe card passed through. |
| 10:33.10 | benjam2000 | Where i can find the current keys for the squeezy repo? |
| 10:34.05 | genr8_ | squeezy's you until you figure this out, its expired. https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html |
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| 10:34.45 | klys | benjam2000, https://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debian-archive-keyring/ possibly |
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| 10:38.47 | genr8_ | sudo apt-get -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false update" |
| 10:40.20 | genr8_ | sudo apt-key list |
| 10:41.00 | benjam2000 | genr8_, im still get a error (also installed the new debian-archive-keyring_2017.5~deb8u1_all.deb): NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA NO_PUBKEY 64481591B98321F9 |
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| 10:43.33 | benjam2000 | apt-key list output: https://pastebin.com/yHE0PV07 |
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| 10:44.31 | genr8_ | well you definitely overwrote the old one now. and the new one is not helping. |
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| 10:45.40 | benjam2000 | How to repair that? |
| 10:46.24 | genr8_ | they're long expired, no point. |
| 10:48.34 | benjam2000 | I dont understand why there is no possiblity to just install packages with "apt-get install". Theres no config option....? |
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| 10:49.40 | genr8_ | once the keys are expired, apt-get cannot be trusted. you should consider that option dead. if you need an isolated system, disconnect it from the internet, and install .deb packages yourself with dpkg |
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| 10:51.46 | genr8_ | and by installing the new keyring youve essentially broken it further |
| 10:51.58 | genr8_ | now, not only is the key expired, its flat out gone |
| 10:55.25 | benjam2000 | And why thats not repairable? |
| 10:55.52 | genr8_ | use dpkg to put the old keyring back. and use dpkg to install the packages you want instead of apt-get. |
| 10:58.39 | genr8_ | i tried to tell you one command to use to bypass the key expiration date, but you had already broken it by that point. if you want to bypass anything further, you're gonna have to google yourself |
| 10:59.28 | genr8_ | i dont want to continue |
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| 11:40.02 | lxsameer | hey folks, i need to have a private apt repo with a customize authentication, does apt supports custom authentications ? |
| 11:41.01 | ksk | apt does support auth-basic, if that is what you ask. You can put repos with "user:pass@host" notification into sources.list, if I remember correctly. |
| 11:41.01 | apt | ksk: I think you lost me on that one |
| 11:42.00 | ksk | see "man apt_auth.conf" |
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| 11:56.23 | lxsameer | ksk: yeah i know about basic auth suppor, I meant other authentication solutions |
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| 12:05.18 | harski | lxsameer: I'm curious: which backends are you thinking about specifically? LDAP? |
| 12:05.35 | Haohmaru | real men use IRC |
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| 12:13.48 | ratrace | real women too! |
| 12:13.58 | Haohmaru | pics or it didn't happen |
| 12:15.20 | genr8_ | i heard there are debian-women but im not sure |
| 12:15.38 | nikow2 | Is there a way to tell my debian to always install -doc packages? So far i have cronscript job which checks all installed packages and looks if there is package-doc, if yes then it's installing it. |
| 12:16.02 | nikow2 | I personally know 2 debian female power users |
| 12:16.43 | genr8_ | you must be lucky |
| 12:18.07 | nikow2 | Dunno - i just work with people every day. |
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| 12:18.37 | nikow2 | I was suprised when i saw nearly completly blind administrator. |
| 12:18.53 | nikow2 | But he was able to do his job and he had ton of knowladge. |
| 12:20.22 | genr8_ | i dont see anything about -docs. your idea will probably have to stay as is |
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| 12:28.32 | lxsameer | harski:something similar to oauth |
| 12:29.06 | lxsameer | harski: may be the main question is whether apt supports pam authentication or not |
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| 12:57.04 | ksk | lxsameer: "apt-cache search apt | grep -i ldap" indicates: No! |
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| 13:05.54 | diogenes_ | Hello guys, does anyone have any idea what library am i missing for the bash promp to look like in this pic (on the left is how it should look and on the right is how it looks for me): https://i.imgur.com/u6UQjMD.png |
| 13:06.12 | diogenes_ | PS. on a different distro it works. |
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| 13:33.54 | ratrace | diogenes_: I'd start with noto fonts packages |
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| 13:35.48 | diogenes_ | ratrace, all noto fonts are installed. |
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| 13:44.36 | ratrace | diogenes_: oh wait, yeah, that's not noto, that's "powerline" font methinks |
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| 13:47.53 | diogenes_ | ratrace, you're the man, installed powerline and now all is well, thanks a lot! |
| 13:48.52 | ratrace | diogenes_: you're welcome |
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| 13:51.49 | k\t | hello |
| 13:52.31 | k\t | dangersously, i've changed stretch to buster in my sources.list file. everything is okay besides a few packages being too stubborn to upgrade |
| 13:52.56 | k\t | apt says it wants to install <VERSION_NEWER> but <VERSION_OLDER> is to be installed |
| 13:52.57 | apt | that's too long, k\t |
| 13:52.58 | greycat | sometimes a package doesn't *exist* in the next release... which package? |
| 13:53.02 | k\t | any suggestions? |
| 13:53.02 | nvz | !bat |
| 13:53.04 | dpkg | [Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use https://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 13:53.16 | k\t | THANKS |
| 13:53.19 | greycat | how on earth do you expect people to give suggestions if you do not name the package? |
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| 13:54.15 | k\t | i was hoping that i could do everything in a straight shot using apt-get upgrade <SPECIAL_OPTIONS_HERE> |
| 13:54.23 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 13:54.27 | k\t | thanks |
| 13:54.29 | k\t | thanks |
| 13:54.37 | nvz | well what you SHOULD have done is read the buster release notes upgrades section |
| 13:54.53 | nvz | but its prob a lil late for that now |
| 13:55.26 | k\t | Which is what I did and read several blogs about potential hazards of doing so |
| 13:55.52 | ratrace | of course you made good backups first... |
| 13:56.13 | k\t | But I was eager to haver "Newer" packages based on some of the newer "Software" I use. |
| 13:56.28 | nvz | idk I'm with greycat, I'm in no mood (still feelin a lil sick) to listen to anymore of this until you provide some actual information |
| 13:56.58 | k\t | ratrace: no, I did not, I believe that I'm leet enough to restore my system if it fails |
| 13:57.06 | nvz | like the output of apt-policy and the command(s) you ran and the output |
| 13:57.33 | k\t | thanks guys, you're support has been enough. thank you! |
| 13:58.40 | ratrace | k\t: ooops? :) neway, yeah, apt policy, and perhaps pastebin your sources.list too. |
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| 13:59.25 | k\t | one sec. |
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| 14:03.10 | k\t | apt-cache polich: https://0x0.st/ivZe.txt || apt/sources.list: https://0x0.st/ivZ2.list |
| 14:03.27 | k\t | policy* not polich |
| 14:03.40 | nvz | oh yeah, you read the release notes alright.. |
| 14:03.44 | nvz | </sarcasm> |
| 14:03.51 | k\t | I told you |
| 14:04.06 | ratrace | For starters, that's not even proper Debian it seems |
| 14:04.17 | k\t | they say do not just change values of repositories in sources.list |
| 14:04.19 | ratrace | !based on |
| 14:04.20 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 14:04.34 | k\t | that makes sense |
| 14:04.38 | k\t | thanks for your time guys |
| 14:04.47 | greycat | Should I just kick him? |
| 14:04.59 | k\t | ouch |
| 14:05.05 | nvz | wth is helium and lithium? |
| 14:05.20 | k\t | http://bunsenlabs.org |
| 14:05.21 | ratrace | Bunsenlabs distro thingy. Debian based. |
| 14:05.28 | nvz | and the upgrades section specifically says to remove backports and any backports packages you used |
| 14:05.32 | k\t | just distributions on forks of debian |
| 14:05.34 | nvz | shrugs |
| 14:05.43 | k\t | meh |
| 14:05.49 | nvz | things we can't/don't/won't support here |
| 14:06.02 | k\t | understood |
| 14:08.02 | nvz | reads up on how the maker of "crunchbang" stopped saying users would benefit from just using Debian and then some idiot continued their work to add nothing but problems |
| 14:08.23 | nvz | puts a comma between stopped and saying :P |
| 14:10.14 | k\t | thanks for the support guys! |
| 14:11.02 | nvz | nothing more annoying that idiots who spin off Debian to add absolutely nothing but alternate OOBEs and idk wth kind of OOBE is alienating the entire community that did all the work of creating and supporting the software |
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| 14:12.48 | ratrace | except their users who come to #debian asking for help because their #distro broke everything :) |
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| 14:14.11 | nvz | I sympathize.. and agree that for awhile there the D-I did offer less options for install than it had.. but if you'd come here and ASKED how to get openbox out-of-the-box.. we could've done that for you |
| 14:14.22 | nvz | which seems to be all this distro offers |
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| 14:15.21 | nvz | it used to be that individual package selection was in the installer.. maybe calamires will address this idk. |
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| 14:15.49 | greycat | (Answer: install Debian, and do NOT select any desktop environments. After booting, "apt install xorg openbox xterm" and you're in pretty good shape.) |
| 14:16.02 | nvz | yeah really |
| 14:16.26 | nvz | what makes this so horrible is that its based on a spinoff whose creator stopped making because they said users would benefit from just using Debian |
| 14:16.27 | annadane | makes a distro based on bunsenlabs |
| 14:16.51 | nvz | and they pick it up and offer nothing worth the effort but near as I can tell a different Out Of Box Experience |
| 14:17.02 | nvz | so lets lose all support and take it as it comes.. |
| 14:17.10 | ratrace | ie, a whole distro that can easily be a friggin installation task. |
| 14:17.30 | nvz | yeah its maddening |
| 14:17.31 | ratrace | tasksel task, I mean |
| 14:17.50 | \\Mr_C\\ | does anyone have an old asus P8H61-M LE/CSM v1.05 motherboard, i just need a copy of the bios.rom file. |
| 14:18.24 | nvz | \\Mr_C\\: ask the manufacturer? |
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| 14:19.01 | ratrace | Suppose I had that mobo... where do I find that file? |
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| 14:19.44 | \\Mr_C\\ | extracted with software and saved as a file |
| 14:19.57 | ratrace | what software? |
| 14:20.01 | \\Mr_C\\ | sigh |
| 14:20.06 | ratrace | I'm genuinely asking. |
| 14:20.29 | \\Mr_C\\ | the dos flash tool will save it |
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| 14:21.16 | ratrace | oh I thought something in Debian does it.... |
| 14:21.29 | \\Mr_C\\ | i think there is |
| 14:21.46 | \\Mr_C\\ | the board needs to be booted |
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| 14:23.25 | ratrace | checked here? https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LE/HelpDesk_Download/ |
| 14:23.38 | \\Mr_C\\ | oh my god, been there |
| 14:23.45 | ratrace | I have H81M-R btw |
| 14:24.00 | \\Mr_C\\ | i just need a working bootable board saved bios |
| 14:24.12 | \\Mr_C\\ | the asus website bios's do not work for some reason |
| 14:25.15 | \\Mr_C\\ | asus P8H61-M LE/CSM v1.05 motherboard |
| 14:25.30 | nvz | you tried them ALL? https://i.imgur.com/MOBvyoN.png |
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| 14:25.48 | \\Mr_C\\ | yes |
| 14:26.06 | \\Mr_C\\ | i even ordered a chip from ebay, it will be here today |
| 14:26.15 | \\Mr_C\\ | we will see if it works |
| 14:26.18 | nvz | you do realize you're totally abusing the topic of this channel right? this is more a thing for ##hardware or something |
| 14:26.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | yea, isnt that great? |
| 14:26.48 | \\Mr_C\\ | lots of people here |
| 14:26.59 | \\Mr_C\\ | more of a chance someone might have the board |
| 14:27.03 | nvz | same kinda logic terrorists use |
| 14:27.15 | \\Mr_C\\ | i just dont want to trash the board |
| 14:27.20 | nvz | well, there are a lot of people here.. |
| 14:27.24 | \\Mr_C\\ | it has potetential |
| 14:27.42 | \\Mr_C\\ | it has a core 5 chip on it |
| 14:27.46 | nvz | checks \Mr_C\ for explosives |
| 14:28.00 | \\Mr_C\\ | debian would run great on it |
| 14:29.18 | nvz | turns on the UV lights to kill pathogens |
| 14:29.26 | \\Mr_C\\ | yawn |
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| 15:00.32 | Haohmaru | his mere nickname triggers the terrorist detector already ;P~ |
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| 15:09.29 | ws2k3 | i would like to change the uid of a linux user. can i just change the /etc/passwd into the new id? or what is the correct way to do this? |
| 15:10.01 | Fox | usermod |
| 15:10.31 | Fox | usermod -u 7777 foo |
| 15:10.50 | annadane | would that break a whole bunch of stuff? |
| 15:11.04 | Fox | it should not, but it could |
| 15:11.39 | Fox | files into user's homedir will have the change automatically, but not files outside the homedir |
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| 15:12.11 | Fox | but it would be worst if editing /etc/passwd :) |
| 15:12.14 | ratrace | in general, packages reserve UIDs below 1000, so don't go there with manual numbers; otherwise yeah, make sure files are chown'd properly |
| 15:12.56 | greycat | you'll have to restart every process the user is running, as well |
| 15:13.04 | ratrace | definitely re-login (if that's for the running user), due to changes in /run |
| 15:13.25 | greycat | Probably best to reboot if it's a user that has ever had a desktop session. |
| 15:14.48 | ws2k3 | Fox: ratrace greycat thanks |
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| 18:48.12 | k\t | thanks, it's working |
| 18:50.20 | k\t | it's working now https://0x0.st/ivqt.png |
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| 19:01.00 | k\t | is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] |
| 19:01.55 | sney | k\t: please disable your auto-away. |
| 19:01.57 | sney | !away |
| 19:01.57 | dpkg | Do not use public away/back messages in #debian. If we want to know where you are, we'll /whois you. In BitchX, /set auto_away off; in XChat, Preferences > Chatting > General > uncheck Announce Away Messages; ask in #yourircclient if you have questions. If you continue to use public aways/backs you will be devoiced. http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
| 19:02.04 | k\t | i have |
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| 20:06.32 | kittonian | Hi all. Does anyone have experience with Ubiquity EdgeRouters? I figured I would ask here since it runs on a Debian backend. |
| 20:07.24 | sney | #debian doesn't support derivatives, ask UBNT's support or maybe ##networking |
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| 20:28.40 | tga | hello. ext4 or btrfs for app/docker and user data volumes? |
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| 20:29.08 | annadane | without knowing much of either probably ext4 because btrfs doesn't have the best reputation |
| 20:29.30 | tga | I know it wasn't great a while ago, but I'm not up to date with recent developments |
| 20:29.42 | annadane | yeah, me either, i shouldn't assume |
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| 20:30.55 | greycat | I rarely hear much about btrfs these days. Usually people are pimping zfs instead. |
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| 20:33.59 | tga | I keep hearing about it on Synology boxes |
| 20:34.18 | annadane | try asking the docker people? *shrug* |
| 20:34.19 | tga | I'm making a small VPS to host some web apps, no zfs here |
| 20:34.44 | annadane | though, i need to stop delegating stuff off to other irc channels |
| 20:35.19 | tga | this is kinda os-specific, I wouldn't expect docker to have fs preferences |
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| 20:47.17 | ksk | just use any xfs/ext4 if you do not have special needs or unable to know the differences ;) |
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| 21:32.57 | sc_ | new one for me, unable to ssh to a server do to "audit", which I assume is auditd, or apparmor? |
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| 21:45.24 | mason | updates a box that started life as Lenny. |
| 21:47.56 | TheAvatar | If I do: " ssh remote@dbserver.local mysql -N -e 'show databases' ", I get the error ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'databases'. I tried various kinds of ", ', \", \' - what am I missing here? I am not quite sure what ssh sends through, but not what I want :) |
| 21:48.25 | greycat | ssh eats your quotes. You need to add another layer of quotes. |
| 21:48.40 | greycat | ssh remote@dbserver.local "mysql -N -e 'show databases'" |
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| 21:49.46 | mutante | TheAvatar: try with -C "mysql ..." |
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| 21:51.06 | TheAvatar | greycat/mutante, it acts the same with -C or with " " around the entire command (with our without -C) |
| 21:51.47 | greycat | Is this the entire question? You're not hiding another layer ("it's actually code geneated by jenkins and run in a docker instance ...")? |
| 21:52.02 | greycat | You're typing this command at a Debian terminal? |
| 21:52.21 | TheAvatar | The strange thing is, if I try -C "mysql -N -e 'show databases'" (single, then double in the end), it replies with ERROR 1049 (42000): Unknown database 'databases'' <--- two single quotes in the end |
| 21:52.39 | TheAvatar | greycat, right now, it is the entire question, yes. I need it elsewhere, but testing directly at debian console right now |
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| 21:53.36 | greycat | http://paste.wooledge.org/3161 |
| 21:53.40 | greycat | that's all I can give you |
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| 21:54.45 | TheAvatar | what is bin/args? :) interesting tool |
| 21:55.05 | greycat | http://paste.wooledge.org/3162 |
| 21:55.39 | TheAvatar | but the single quotes disappear, so guess both on your pastebin is actually wrong |
| 21:56.07 | TheAvatar | so it does -e 'show' <databases>, which is a mysql syntax, having the db in the end |
| 21:56.27 | greycat | Without the second layer of quotes, it's as if you had run mysql -N -e 'show' databases |
| 21:56.35 | greycat | so it thinks 'databases" is the name of a database |
| 21:57.26 | TheAvatar | yes, exactly - which is valid syntax, but not the syntax I am trying to send :) |
| 21:57.52 | ws2k3 | how can i see list bind mounts in linux? when i do mount --bind org dest and then mount|grep dest i see this:/dev/xvda1 on /root/dest type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) it shows the device. but not the subfolder |
| 21:58.02 | TheAvatar | 5 args: <mysql> <-N> <-e> <'show> <databases'> |
| 21:58.10 | TheAvatar | that is what I get with -C " ' ' " |
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| 21:58.52 | brieweb | what happened to openjdk 8 in Buster? |
| 21:58.56 | greycat | my ssh(1) says -C requests compression, so I think that's irrelevant here |
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| 21:59.21 | greycat | Are you using Debian on both ends? Standard OpenSSH client and server? |
| 22:00.12 | TheAvatar | Debian9 standard openssh on both ends |
| 22:00.30 | TheAvatar | openssh-client|server packages |
| 22:00.45 | greycat | No other funny business, like a forced-command key that does its own parsing of the incoming command? |
| 22:01.50 | TheAvatar | oooh |
| 22:03.11 | TheAvatar | I have this file that ssh executes, to validate the input - some internet script. It "outputs" $SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND |
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| 22:03.27 | TheAvatar | that is what causes it |
| 22:03.57 | somiaj | brieweb: I don't think openjdk 8 was ever in buster |
| 22:04.30 | somiaj | brieweb: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openjdk-8 -- being an older java version, debian no longer supports it in buster. |
| 22:04.32 | TheAvatar | greycat. Thanks - I think I need to get rid of that old stuff on the "receiving end" |
| 22:04.50 | greycat | Or fix it so that it handles shell syntax correctly, which might be *hard* as hell. |
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| 22:08.22 | ws2k3 | do scsi disks have smart? |
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| 22:09.56 | TheAvatar | I try see if I can work something out. Atleat you found the cause, thanks |
| 22:12.01 | mason | ws2k3: yes |
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| 22:12.26 | ws2k3 | mason: hdparm -i and hdparm -I show me HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error |
| 22:13.19 | mason | Hm, I just use smartctl generally. |
| 22:14.08 | ws2k3 | mason: how can i show the smart status of a disk? -x? |
| 22:14.41 | mason | smartctl -a /dev/whatever |
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| 22:18.56 | ws2k3 | mason: https://pastebin.com/qVYjZ9ZK i was wondering if you could advise me a bit on how to read this. |
| 22:18.58 | brieweb | somiaj, it just seems that some things were deprecated in Java 11 that were in Java 8. |
| 22:19.12 | ws2k3 | mason: i just wanne take a look to all drives to check in what health they are |
| 22:19.16 | mason | ws2k3: Could you use bpaste.net or some other service that doesn't require javascript please? |
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| 22:19.30 | mason | !pastebin |
| 22:19.30 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:19.50 | ws2k3 | mason: https://pastebin.com/raw/qVYjZ9ZK |
| 22:19.58 | ws2k3 | or do you wish i repaste |
| 22:20.00 | jmcnaught | pastebin displays the paste with javascript disabled for me for what it's worth. |
| 22:20.22 | mason | Hm, maybe that changed. Looking. |
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| 22:21.21 | somiaj | brieweb: yea, in that case you many need to install java 8 locally, use java-package, or the package in stretch can also be installed in sid (And I think it has been updated with security patches) |
| 22:21.32 | somiaj | brieweb: arg, the stretch package can be installed in buster. |
| 22:21.36 | mason | ws2k3: Interesting. That's not giving you a ton of counters, but it's up to each manufacturer to implement them. |
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| 22:23.07 | mason | ws2k3: So, that drive is a bit old and has seen a bunch of errors, but corrected all of them before giving data back. |
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| 22:23.44 | mason | ws2k3: For me, I run ZFS on everything, so I'd keep using that as part of a mirror or similar until it starts throwing errors. But that's me. |
| 22:24.18 | mason | ws2k3: It's old enough that I wouldn't want to run it as a single drive. |
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| 22:24.47 | ws2k3 | mason: i run zfs on a few boxes aswel but thats another topic. this machine is pretty old has an uptime of 860 days and has seen over 200 tb |
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| 22:25.09 | mason | ws2k3: Sure. |
| 22:25.10 | ws2k3 | mason: so i was like lets check the smart status of all disk. just to check there are liek 24 disks in the box |
| 22:25.48 | mason | ws2k3: So, something to consider is actually monitoring the values and firing alerts if you ever see, for instance, smart health status *not* ok, or uncorrected errors, or similar. |
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| 22:30.22 | ws2k3 | thx mason! |
| 22:30.26 | sc_ | anyone seen "audit" messages in kern.log about sshd? type=1326 syscall=230, prevents me from sshing into my box? |
| 22:30.50 | sc_ | just started happening, only recent upgrades were libc that may pertain to this? |
| 22:31.10 | brieweb | somiaj, can I just put the stretch apt source in my repository and install the java 8 using apt update and apt install? |
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| 23:04.08 | somiaj | brieweb: I usually don't recommend that, but it can be done. |
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| 23:10.20 | brieweb | somiaj, what way would you recommend? |
| 23:13.42 | somiaj | brieweb: in this case that is probably a decent method, I always just download the .deb's I need manually, as I don't like suggesting people mix sources. |
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| 23:31.27 | Scou_moune | Hi all ok so i want add a script that run with cron, and i don't want use crontab -e, i prefer file. So i have check for how do that with debian 10 |
| 23:31.57 | Scou_moune | and i have see this 2 solution: #CRON_FILE="/var/spool/cron/root"& CRON_FILE="/etc/cron.d/$PROG" |
| 23:32.36 | Scou_moune | But nothing work i like the solution with cron.d because that same like other config file |
| 23:33.02 | Scou_moune | like interfaces for example and if-pre-up.d |
| 23:33.23 | Scou_moune | So what you think how can i do that for that work ? |
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| 23:33.57 | mutante | Scou_moune: i guess the problem is more the format inside the file than the part that you are writing it manually |
| 23:35.21 | Scou_moune | ok but i follow the log syslog where cron talk, and i see nothing, or just "syntax error" when i have cron.d because i have forget the "user" |
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| 23:35.57 | Scou_moune | my line is very simple that it: "3 * * * * root ${PROGPATH}" |
| 23:36.11 | Scou_moune | where programe path is the fullpath of my script |
| 23:36.21 | mutante | Scou_moune: this is about the (few) differences between manually editing it or using crontab -e .. they are not many https://serverfault.com/questions/347318/is-it-bad-to-edit-cron-file-manually |
| 23:36.24 | Scou_moune | i have try to add SHELL & PATH too |
| 23:36.30 | Scou_moune | ok i go read thank |
| 23:36.39 | mutante | Scou_moune: maybe paste the content of one of those files |
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| 23:37.14 | mutante | Scou_moune: why do you not want to use crontab -e? just don't like the editor it uses by default? you can change that |
| 23:37.21 | Scou_moune | i don't want use crontab -e because i put that in script for futur backup that do auto a rule for cron |
| 23:37.39 | mutante | ok |
| 23:38.24 | Scou_moune | i can show you what i have tested but that no properly write because i don't have find the solution |
| 23:38.30 | mutante | Scou_moune: look at another existing file under /etc/cron.d and compare it |
| 23:38.41 | Scou_moune | yea i have compare anacron |
| 23:39.04 | Scou_moune | with the SHELL & PATH |
| 23:39.37 | mutante | anacron is not cron |
| 23:39.43 | Scou_moune | i juste post the part of my code but that just for see what i have tested that not final |
| 23:40.05 | Scou_moune | yea mutante but in cron.d a file anacron existe |
| 23:40.46 | brieweb | somiaj, ok, thanks |
| 23:41.01 | Scou_moune | https://dpaste.org/MwzH |
| 23:41.24 | Scou_moune | Like i say that in testing, so that not properly write, i go read you're doc |
| 23:41.30 | brieweb | somiaj, it sounds like there is the java-package as well? |
| 23:41.38 | somiaj | ,i java-package |
| 23:41.40 | judd | Package java-package (contrib/misc, optional) in buster/amd64: Utility for creating Java Debian packages. Version: 0.62; Size: 22.2k; Installed: 72k |
| 23:41.55 | somiaj | brieweb: you can use it to create a .deb from the upstream package from oracle. |
| 23:42.00 | somiaj | well upstream tar.gz |
| 23:42.12 | brieweb | I was thinking of the java from adopt openjdk |
| 23:42.19 | mutante | Scou_moune: ok, but what about the actual cron file that this writes? |
| 23:42.54 | somiaj | brieweb: java-package just provides a way to create a .deb for a local install vs just installing the .bin (or .tar.gz) -- has the same issues in the end as you have to manually update it, but at least your package is managed with dpkg. |
| 23:43.27 | Scou_moune | mutante: yes that it, i want use the solution with cron.d, so forget the line with # that for the other solution |
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| 23:43.51 | Scou_moune | mutante: i test with shell add |
| 23:44.13 | mutante | Scou_moune: i can't help if you don't answer the questions, sorry |
| 23:44.29 | somiaj | brieweb: but in this particular case, I don't see any issue with using the stretch package. |
| 23:44.47 | Scou_moune | mutante: sorry mutante can you ask again, my english is bad |
| 23:45.06 | Scou_moune | "ok, but what about the actual cron file that this writes?" |
| 23:45.06 | mutante | Scou_moune: paste the actual file you have in cron.d please |
| 23:45.09 | somiaj | brieweb: and then submit a bug report to whatever java software you are using so they update it to be compadable with newer java. |
| 23:45.22 | Scou_moune | yea ok |
| 23:46.30 | Scou_moune | mutante: https://dpaste.org/nSSh |
| 23:47.00 | Scou_moune | mutante: for the test i have set in 3min, after i set in 1hour so 0 * * * * |
| 23:47.24 | mutante | Scou_moune: hm, ok, and what is the error you saw in the log file? |
| 23:48.11 | Scou_moune | mutante: i say nothing ahah, but if i delete the user root i see "error wrong syntax" |
| 23:48.18 | Scou_moune | i see* |
| 23:48.41 | mutante | Scou_moune: so maybe it .. just works? seeing nothing often means all is ok in Linux |
| 23:48.52 | mutante | what makes you think it doesn't run your command |
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| 23:49.43 | Scou_moune | mutante: no i think not because i have control and no back have been created, and habitualy that say in log like "backup22 running" |
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| 23:51.39 | mutante | Scou_moune: try the "Raise the cron debug level" part in https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22743548/cronjob-not-running |
| 23:52.09 | mutante | Scou_moune: so... what it says under "Still not working? Yikes!" in the top answer |
| 23:53.00 | Scou_moune | mutante: ok i go read, but even is that work i do add a line for see in log |
| 23:53.03 | mutante | Scou_moune: also note that a cron for root has a user field but all others do not have a user field |
| 23:56.28 | Scou_moune | mutante: yea first i go activated the log cron for see nothing in by /etc/rsyslog.conf |
| 23:58.14 | mutante | Scou_moune: /etc/rsyslog.conf is a config file, not location of log files. check /var/log/syslog |
| 23:59.05 | Scou_moune | mutante: yea i know but i don't have the /var/log/cron.log so i delete the # for see only a log for cron |
