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| 00:01.38 | mason | efloid: That doesn't sound like a terminal error. What's closer to the end of the strace? |
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| 00:02.05 | efloid | mason: near the very end there is "write(2, "need to run as root or suid", 27need to run as root or suid) = 27" |
| 00:02.39 | efloid | fwiw i also tried running the app with --no-sandbox but still doesn't run |
| 00:03.30 | mason | efloid: That sounds closer to it. Is it possible that whatever's in the snap wants to run as root |
| 00:03.33 | mason | ? |
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| 00:03.55 | efloid | mason: well it's skype. would be strange if so. |
| 00:04.12 | mason | efloid: what's the command you're running? |
| 00:04.16 | mason | The invocation? |
| 00:05.03 | efloid | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.43 | efloid | the .desktop entry uses 'env BAMF_DESKTOP_FILE_HINT=/var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/skype_skypeforlinux.desktop /snap/bin/skype %U' |
| 00:07.40 | mason | efloid: Hrm. Dunno. I'd consider maybe installing their package directly rather than using the snap. Instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/skype#Debian_10_.22Buster.22 |
| 00:08.11 | efloid | mason: thank you |
| 00:08.30 | mason | It's hard to think you need to be root. Maybe however it's running lacks access to audio/video devices without being root or some other configuration. |
| 00:09.13 | mason | Also, if you were to pastebin the whole strace, that'd tell us a lot more, assuming you can sanitize it for public consumption. |
| 00:09.42 | efloid | fwiw when i try to run snap via cli also see this in syslog: "traps: skypeforlinux[19381] trap int3 ip:55b65d1b870f sp:7fff2c661790 error:0 in skypeforlinux[55b65b297000+542e000]" |
| 00:09.54 | efloid | its a kernel log message |
| 00:10.10 | efloid | mason: ok will paste it. gimme sec |
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| 00:10.19 | mason | efloid: Make sure there's nothing compromising in it. |
| 00:10.26 | mason | efloid: In particular check the invocation at the top. |
| 00:11.24 | mason | efloid: That error shows up here: https://github.com/flathub/com.skype.Client/issues/70 |
| 00:11.32 | mason | different technology, likely the same issue though |
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| 00:12.41 | mason | efloid: I'd pursue that and try the bare package from Skype before posting the strace. |
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| 00:13.17 | efloid | mason: other than user and host name anything else to sanitize? |
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| 00:15.09 | mason | efloid: Last time I asked for someone to post one, it had some account data that shouldn't have been leaked. |
| 00:15.27 | mason | So, whatever you see that's dodgy, elide! |
| 00:18.17 | ozfalcon | I am starting to learn to use sbuild. But not sure if it's the tool I need. Can I use sbuild to compile an app that's not in the repos? |
| 00:19.00 | efloid | mason: http://vpaste.net/Pbm7T |
| 00:19.06 | sney | yes as long as it has a debian/ structure to tell the package builder what to do |
| 00:19.36 | sney | I suspect most 3rd party packages that are distributed somehow are built using sbuild |
| 00:19.44 | mason | efloid: kk, "exit 1" is good because it knows it's breaking - will read |
| 00:19.47 | sney | not to mention ubuntu stuff, etc |
| 00:20.39 | ozfalcon | sney, I don't think it does. Should I use something else then? |
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| 00:20.56 | mason | efloid: Can you post the same for a no-sandbox invocation as well? |
| 00:21.10 | mason | efloid: If this one wants to chroot, that's why it wants root. |
| 00:21.54 | sney | ozfalcon: if the source tree you're working with doesn't have the needed components to build a debian package, you can use its existing build system to build binaries for /opt or /usr/local. there are also howtos for creating the debian/ files so you can make a package |
| 00:22.11 | sney | !tell ozfalcon about stow |
| 00:22.16 | sney | !tell ozfalcon about nmg |
| 00:22.16 | mason | Don't forget GNU Stow. |
| 00:22.19 | mason | nice |
| 00:23.11 | mason | !tell mason about nmg |
| 00:23.23 | sney | !msg the bot |
| 00:23.23 | dpkg | Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . Also ask me about <judd>, which is another bot and window into the Ultimate Debian Database. |
| 00:23.49 | mason | But, I did it for your benefit! |
| 00:26.02 | mason | efloid: Anyway, it's intentionally checking whether it's root or not down at the end there, and erroring out intentionally when it finds that it's not. Whether it needs to be root or not isn't as relevant as the fact that it's insisting. The no-sandbox option might do something different, although of course with the risk that it's not running sandboxed. But if you got this from upstream, it's going to be as |
| 00:26.08 | mason | trustworthy as the bare package. |
| 00:26.16 | ozfalcon | you can use its existing build system to build binaries for /opt or /usr/local. Does that mean the existing makefile can be used? |
| 00:26.55 | mason | ozfalcon: Most packaged software provices scaffolding around the upstream-supplied build system, so anything can be used if you have the right glue in place. |
| 00:26.59 | mason | provides* |
| 00:27.39 | sney | yes, the makefile or whatever the software uses |
| 00:27.47 | sney | there are a lot of systems out there so I was being general |
| 00:28.13 | sney | debian packaging also uses the existing build system, but adds some other stuff as well |
| 00:29.18 | mason | efloid: Heading out, but recommendations: 1) run the bare package, 2) strace a no-sandbox version, 3) use Jitsi instead, as it's free software and you can set up your own server. |
| 00:32.31 | ozfalcon | sney, The package is also available in the repos (Though I want to compile my own with some patches). Should I just copy the "scaffolding" from the repo source or is that not wise? |
| 00:32.55 | sney | there are chapters in the nmg that cover this, basically |
| 00:32.55 | efloid | mason: thank you again |
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| 00:33.36 | sney | dpkg's uupdate and package recompile factoids have some useful info as well. e.g. /msg dpkg uupdate |
| 00:34.37 | ozfalcon | ok, I'll read those guides to get a better understanding. |
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| 01:13.00 | ozfalcon | sney, That's interesting. One of the two packages I wish to compile is debianized (has debian scaffolding), But it's not in any of the repos. sbuild seems to build it fine so thats a start. |
| 01:13.40 | sney | sometimes package upstreams include that to make it easier for distros |
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| 01:37.49 | backupluis | Hi, I'm trying to setup a headless server for sharing movies and some files vÃa upnp, and I want to setup some aditional things like video/audio capture to stream, use the sound card to play mp3 and some other things, I have a similar setup in a tiny router using OpenWrt compiled by myself and everything goes well but now I need more power, so I take an old Core duo board and installed debian (only server), php, apache, samba, alsa and |
| 01:37.49 | backupluis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.01 | backupluis | My problem is when I try to install some tools to work with audio/video or even audio capture, all of them try to install or needs a lot of libraries, X11-utils for example, some other want to install nvidia-novoud drivers, I dont even have a nvidia card on the server, for example: ffmpeg, pulseaudio, mpeg123 and some other programs needs about 300Mb in libraries including nvidia, mesa, x11 drivers and libraries. |
| 01:38.13 | backupluis | Is there any way to install the programs that I need without install, for example, an nvidia-noveau driver? |
| 01:38.50 | sney | debian splits packages into a lot of smaller components and sometimes this confuses people. |
| 01:39.27 | sney | your computer is not installing a gui or extra unneeded drivers. It's installing some small shared components that *multiple* programs and libraries use to talk to each other. |
| 01:39.28 | nvz | backupluis: install the tightvnc server or make an equivs package |
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| 01:40.00 | sney | Unless you see a huge fat list of packages in apt's list to install, you don't need to worry about a 'libx11-common' etc package. |
| 01:40.16 | sney | If you *do* see a huge fat list of packages, try with --no-install-recommends. |
| 01:40.37 | nvz | ,provides tightvncserver |
| 01:40.38 | judd | Package tightvncserver in buster/amd64 provides: vnc-server, xserver. |
| 01:40.54 | nvz | this is much lighter than say xorg, and satisfies the dependency for things |
| 01:41.13 | nvz | as you can see.. it provides "xserver" |
| 01:41.54 | backupluis | Ok, but what about the NVIDIA-NOVEAU driver? Why? in fact the board have an embedded intel graphics? |
| 01:42.13 | nvz | idk you have to be more specific about what you're trying to install |
| 01:42.15 | backupluis | NVZ I dont want xserver |
| 01:42.26 | nvz | you do if you want to install xclients |
| 01:42.35 | backupluis | ffmpeg, mpg123, pulseaudio |
| 01:43.10 | nvz | ,why pulseaudio nvidia-noveau |
| 01:43.16 | judd | No dependency chain found between packages pulseaudio and nvidia-noveau in buster/amd64. |
| 01:43.35 | nvz | ,why ffmpeg nvidia-noveau |
| 01:43.39 | judd | No dependency chain found between packages ffmpeg and nvidia-noveau in buster/amd64. |
| 01:43.56 | nvz | ,why mpg123 nvidia-noveau |
| 01:43.59 | judd | No dependency chain found between packages mpg123 and nvidia-noveau in buster/amd64. |
| 01:44.20 | nvz | you're doing something other than what you're saying |
| 01:45.22 | nvz | aptitude why can do the same thing judd just did |
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| 01:45.33 | nvz | can find dependency chains between packages |
| 01:45.55 | nvz | equivs can be used to create a shim for dependencies you KNOW you already satisfied or don't need |
| 01:46.19 | nvz | alternative dependencies can be specified during install |
| 01:46.42 | nvz | foo can depend on bar|baz and if you don't specify bar or baz, it'll choose for you |
| 01:47.04 | backupluis | pulseaudio for example: mesa-va-drivers mesa-vdpau-drivers vdpau-driver-all x11-common |
| 01:47.08 | nvz | smplayer for example will pull in mpv for most people, but I use mplayer, so it wont for me |
| 01:47.18 | backupluis | nvidia-noveao is in recomended |
| 01:47.24 | backupluis | *suggested |
| 01:47.29 | nvz | then use apt-get instead of apt |
| 01:47.38 | backupluis | fontconfig? for pulseaudio? |
| 01:47.44 | nvz | apt by defualt pulls in those extras |
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| 01:49.20 | nvz | ,depends pulseaudio |
| 01:49.21 | judd | Package pulseaudio in buster/amd64 -- depends: libasound2 (>= 1.1.0), libc6 (>= 2.27), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.9.14), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libltdl7 (>= 2.4.6), liborc-0.4-0 (>= 1:0.4.25), libpulse0 (= 12.2-4+deb10u1), libsm6, libsndfile1 (>= 1.0.20), libsoxr0 (>= 0.1.0), libspeexdsp1 (>= 1.2~beta3.2-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libsystemd0, libtdb1 (>= |
| 01:49.22 | judd | 1.2.7+git20101214), libudev1 (>= 183), libwebrtc-audio-processing1, libx11-6, libx11-xcb1, libxcb1, libxtst6, adduser, lsb-base (>= 3.2-13), libasound2-plugins, pulseaudio-utils. |
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| 01:50.26 | nvz | looks like pulseaudio is built against libx11 stuff.. you could always compile it with different options I suppose |
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| 01:51.33 | nvz | you can also just use something else.. doesn't sound like you want debian to me |
| 01:51.39 | backupluis | can you check this pastebin? https://pastebin.com/4ELc1wzg |
| 01:51.54 | nvz | please don't use that site in the future |
| 01:52.14 | backupluis | I want debian because Im using on three machies atm and I very happy leaving windows behind |
| 01:54.04 | nvz | you obviously seem to want something more embedded |
| 01:54.15 | nvz | and less binary depenendcy based |
| 01:54.30 | nvz | our pulseaudio is compiled against X11, systemd, etc.. |
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| 01:54.51 | nvz | you can either use that, rebuild it yourself with different options, or use something else |
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| 01:55.37 | backupluis | Im moving to debian to leave the compile thing of Openwrt, I love to compile and trash, but I want to use my time for other things, got some webcams and a nas with openwrt and this wireless speakers with movies sharing that I want to move to debian. |
| 01:56.13 | nvz | then either use what we got, or get better hardware if thats the issue |
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| 01:56.59 | nvz | I've got a ton of machines that are under US$100 and can handle installing 51mb of packages to use pulseaudio |
| 01:57.27 | fury_ | I have an old box with debian 7 on it. I need access to this box, and I do not know any passwords. I need to boot it to rescue mode or whatever. I add "init=/bin/bash" to the 'linux' line in GRUB, and it boots to a prompt. the keyboard does not work. I do not even know where to start. |
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| 01:58.21 | fury_ | legacy USB is enabled in the bios, I tried adding a few things to the kernel load line in grub that I found on stackoverflow/serverfault, none worked or had any effect. I've tried multiple keyboards - this is a known working one. |
| 01:58.52 | backupluis | NVZ it's not the hardware the problem, my question is why command line tools needs x11 or video drivers to be installed |
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| 01:59.21 | nvz | pulseaudio isnt a command line tool is a huge source package that builds all kinds of stuff |
| 01:59.31 | nvz | and ours is built against X11 and systemd, and others |
| 01:59.56 | nvz | and in a binary dependency based distro thats how shit works.. you have to pull in the dependencies for what it was built against |
| 02:01.46 | nvz | we use pulseaudio in several desktop environments |
| 02:01.54 | fury_ | I don't even know what it is called that I am booting into. freebsd calls it single user mode |
| 02:02.05 | nvz | fury_: you're booting into bash |
| 02:02.15 | fury_ | the shell is bash, yes. |
| 02:02.22 | nvz | no, its the init system |
| 02:02.35 | nvz | you are telling the kernel to bypass init, pam, etc.. |
| 02:02.38 | nvz | and just boot bash |
| 02:02.42 | fury_ | ok, init system. |
| 02:02.55 | backupluis | Yes, I understand it, Will compile openwrt for this new system, Thank you!!! |
| 02:02.58 | nvz | if you'd said "single" instead of "init=" you'd have gotten a password |
| 02:03.42 | fury_ | so I can just use 'single' if I need to reset the root password because I don't know it? |
| 02:04.04 | nvz | fury_: no, from rescue or single user, you still have to know a password to login |
| 02:04.20 | nvz | using init= is bypassing all that and just running the shell directly |
| 02:04.31 | fury_ | I need to reset the password. the keyboard doesn't work if I use init=. the keyboard works when booting normally. |
| 02:04.39 | nvz | I can |
| 02:04.45 | nvz | I can't imagine why |
| 02:04.57 | nvz | have you tried toggling the numlock light? |
| 02:05.05 | fury_ | me either. it's an intel NUC. legacy USB is enabled in the bios. |
| 02:05.13 | fury_ | there is no numpad on this particular keyboard. |
| 02:05.33 | nvz | doesn't matter.. the point I'm getting at is how do you know the keyboard isn't working |
| 02:05.38 | fury_ | nor indicator lights for caps lock |
| 02:05.49 | nvz | have you tried toggling the keyboard leds.. have you tried a sysrq? |
| 02:05.59 | fury_ | I don't know what that is |
| 02:06.04 | fury_ | I'm a bsd guy primarily |
| 02:06.12 | nvz | !sysrq |
| 02:06.12 | dpkg | sysrq is, like, Alt-PrintScreen-[Key]. For a clean reboot with a semi-locked machine, try [Key] with s-u-b, s for sync, u for remount readonly and b for reBoot. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key and http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt . See also <sysrqd>. |
| 02:06.22 | fury_ | no key works, not even CTRL+ALT+DEL |
| 02:06.33 | nvz | ctrl+alt+del isn't suppose to do anything |
| 02:06.34 | nvz | never was |
| 02:07.09 | fury_ | in this version of linux, and any other I've ever used, or indeed just about any system, it does something, and in the case of this system, it reboots it |
| 02:07.28 | fury_ | but, fair enough, it's not special like it is on other systems perhaps |
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| 02:07.58 | fury_ | the keyboard works in GRUB btw |
| 02:08.22 | nvz | yes well I am not convinced the keyboard is the issue |
| 02:08.32 | fury_ | I am definitely convinced the keyboard itself is not the issue |
| 02:09.27 | nvz | fury_: do you have some kind of alternative bootable media with linux on it ? |
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| 02:09.50 | nvz | just do a chroot rescue from something that works |
| 02:10.00 | fury_ | with another keyboard with num/caps lock lights, the lights do not toggle |
| 02:10.35 | fury_ | ALT+PRNTSCRN+B does nothing |
| 02:10.41 | nvz | yes well if the numlock wont toggle, and sysrq does nothing, then its not the keyboard in any way.. its the kernel |
| 02:10.47 | nvz | you're hung |
| 02:11.06 | fury_ | it's at a bash prompt with a blinking cursor |
| 02:11.54 | nvz | are you using anything fancy like nvme, lvm, luks, raid? |
| 02:12.02 | fury_ | not at all |
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| 02:12.06 | nvz | something that isn't being brought up because you bypassed init |
| 02:12.13 | fury_ | rather, perhaps |
| 02:12.16 | fury_ | not that I'm aware of |
| 02:12.19 | fury_ | it's an intel NUC |
| 02:12.33 | nvz | has nothing to do with what disk/partition options you chose |
| 02:12.40 | nvz | if you used encrypition or not |
| 02:13.08 | nvz | at any rate, a chroot rescue would be a simple workaround |
| 02:13.26 | nvz | just boot any other media.. make a debian netinstall thumbdrive or something if need be |
| 02:13.32 | fury_ | I don't know what this used tbh. it controls an A/V control system. I've only just brought it home |
| 02:14.38 | nvz | or even better yet just reinstall it |
| 02:14.45 | fury_ | absolutely no can do |
| 02:14.56 | fury_ | I need to figure out what's on it, and how it's configured |
| 02:15.11 | nvz | then boot another media and mount the rootfs, and chroot in |
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| 02:17.04 | nvz | you goal here is more forensic in nature.. you dont do forensics on a live system |
| 02:17.22 | nvz | you ideally image the entire disk offline.. and work on that from a totally different system |
| 02:17.51 | fury_ | my goal is, very simply, to reset the root password. this should be extremely easy. |
| 02:18.04 | nvz | no, it SHOULDN'T :P |
| 02:18.07 | nvz | otherwise why would we even bother |
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| 02:18.23 | nvz | in fact, you shouldn't even be able to edit the kernel command line for this reason |
| 02:18.34 | nvz | and the disk should be encrypted |
| 02:18.34 | fury_ | yet here we are. |
| 02:18.46 | fury_ | no, it shouldn't |
| 02:19.00 | nvz | yes, and for whatever reason its not working, and you don't know whats on the system.. so boot something you DO know whats on it |
| 02:19.17 | nvz | grab a thumbdrive or something, put some kinda bootable linux on it.. where you can get a shell.. |
| 02:19.24 | nvz | mount, chroot |
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| 02:20.56 | nvz | or open the damn thing up, put the drive inside your machine or into a SATA->USB kinda deal.. |
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| 03:12.32 | luke-jr | Why is gcc-aarch64-linux-gnu unavailable for ARM? |
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| 03:21.21 | nkuttler | luke-jr: it's a dependency for the cross-compiler, so not needed on arm? |
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| 03:22.42 | luke-jr | nkuttler: how can I cross-compile from arm to aarch64 then? |
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| 03:23.14 | themill | Also the full n² combinations of cross compilers aren't in Debian, generally only the ones that allow you to compile things on more powerful architectures are |
| 03:23.48 | luke-jr | my board has an armhf userspace, but an aarch64 kernel.. so for DKMS I need an aarch64 cross-compiler :/ |
| 03:24.05 | themill | fun |
| 03:24.29 | themill | Is an actual cross-compiler required for that and not just a compile flag? |
| 03:24.44 | luke-jr | well, a normal arm compiler can't target aarch64 AFAIK |
| 03:24.45 | themill | (I've not looked carefully at aarch64) |
| 03:25.00 | luke-jr | (also aarch64 is unrelated to 32-bit ARM, besides being supported by the same SoCs) |
| 03:25.11 | themill | yeah |
| 03:26.30 | themill | ,i qemu-system-arm |
| 03:26.32 | judd | Package qemu-system-arm (otherosfs, optional) in buster/amd64: QEMU full system emulation binaries (arm). Version: 1:3.1+dfsg-8+deb10u7; Size: 6409.1k; Installed: 29013k; Homepage: http://www.qemu.org/ |
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| 03:26.46 | themill | You can always build inside a chroot with native tools and that ^^ |
| 03:26.59 | luke-jr | hmm |
| 03:27.02 | themill | (build on either amd64 or armhf host) |
| 03:27.17 | luke-jr | I mean, I suppose I should be able to just make an aarch64 chroot and skip emulation |
| 03:27.27 | themill | indeed |
| 03:27.31 | luke-jr | is there an easy way to debootstrap an aarch64 chroot on Debian? <.< |
| 03:27.58 | themill | sure, debootstrap has an --arch parameter |
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| 03:32.49 | luke-jr | thanks, this feels relatively painless so far |
| 03:33.06 | luke-jr | I guess I'll need to keep a close eye on it to be sure kernel updates get DKMS re-run, but oh well |
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| 04:34.16 | rrn | Hi, I am attempting to test a software RAID-1 setup consisting of /dev/md0 (/, backed by /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1) and /dev/md1 (swap, backed by /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2). |
| 04:35.39 | rrn | I began by checking /proc/mdstat and the outputs of mdadm --detail /dev/md0 and mdadm --detail /dev/md1; everything was ok (two active devices, clean) |
| 04:37.37 | rrn | next I rebooted, went into BIOS, and disabled SATA port A, and proceeded with rebooting into the OS; it booted successfully; I did the same checks, and as expected, it was one active device, degraded, clean |
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| 04:38.36 | akp55 | hello folks. i am trying to setup a bridge with debian buster using systemd-networkd. the bridge itself comes up, but for some reason its not actually being configured.... |
| 04:38.58 | akp55 | could someone point me in the right direction? |
| 04:39.09 | rrn | next I rebooted, went into BIOS, and enabled SATA port A; I rebooted and successfully booted into the OS; I did the same checks, but unfortunately there is an issue |
| 04:39.46 | rrn | so /dev/md1 (the swap) is two active devices, clean (i.e., it got restored) |
| 04:40.37 | rrn | but /dev/md0 (the entire filesystem) is one active device, clean, degraded (i.e., it did not get restored when the SATA port A HDD became available again) |
| 04:43.03 | rrn | I actually did do some testing before this testing, consisting of disabling and then reenabling SATA port B---upon reenabling, both md devices got restored without my doing anything |
| 04:44.30 | rrn | but that was port B (now I am testing port A), and I ran grub-install onto both HDDs since then |
| 04:46.29 | rrn | I am guessing that most likely the md subsystem got confused by the port A HDD going back online as the same name as the port B HDD when I only had one HDD enabled, /dev/sda |
| 04:47.29 | rrn | i.e., everything was working normally (say SATA port A was taken as /dev/sda, and SATA port B was taken as /dev/sdb) |
| 04:47.51 | rrn | then I disabled SATA port A, so SATA port B was probably taken as /dev/sda |
| 04:48.27 | rrn | then I reenabled, so say SATA port A was taken as /dev/sda, and SATA port B was taken as /dev/sdb |
| 04:49.00 | rrn | so this might've happened, and might've confuse the md subsystem, I am guessing |
| 04:49.08 | rrn | Any ideas? |
| 04:49.46 | rrn | n.b. that the swap was restored for some reason... |
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| 04:56.45 | jmcnaught | akp55: I had a bridge set up like this https://termbin.com/cetd but I went back to ifupdown after a while. |
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| 05:01.54 | rrn | in a lower section of the mdadm --detail output, the first entry is indicated as "removed", and the second entry is "/dev/sdb1" |
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| 05:07.35 | akp55 | jmcnaught: i have something similar - https://termbin.com/6695 the first part is the netdev file, the other one setups the bridge, the final one is support to configure the bridge |
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| 05:09.48 | akp55 | and it shows the bridge as unmanaged for some reason - https://termbin.com/th2b, it showing routable because i started the dhclient against the bridge |
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| 05:28.07 | akp55 | jmcnaught: did you have any issues with your config? why did you go back to ifupdown? |
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| 05:35.22 | jmcnaught | akp55: I don't remember having any issues with my config until I started using a kernel from backports and ran into https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=931636 |
| 05:35.23 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/931636 in systemd (closed, fixed-upstream, patch, upstream): «doesnt bring up virtio interface link with kernel 5.2»; severity: normal; opened: 2019-07-08; last modified: 2019-09-18. |
| 05:36.07 | akp55 | hmm i'm using a 4.x kern |
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| 05:40.17 | jmcnaught | that bug was resolved but I just didn't bother switching back |
| 05:45.00 | akp55 | right on. |
| 05:45.12 | akp55 | this is kinda frustrating |
| 05:46.14 | rrn | hmm so I did --re-add to successfully manually restore the array, and then proceeded to testing the disabling of SATA port B |
| 05:46.44 | rrn | interestingly, when I reenable port B, md restores the array automatically! |
| 05:48.32 | rrn | in summary... when port A HDD becomes available again, md does not restore, and one has to manually --re-add; when port B HDD becomes available again, md automatically restores |
| 05:48.55 | rrn | So it must be the naming (sda and sdb), what else... |
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| 06:21.22 | jmcnaught | akp55: does systemd-networkd's journal have any errors or warnings? |
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| 06:33.54 | discovered | I have debian and windows 10(Not use that much) as dual boot in 512 GB ssd. For some reason i want to reinstall windows in another SSD, free up the the current partition but keep the dual boot without erasing my Debian. Never installed windows after linux as dualboot? |
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| 06:36.05 | discovered | How should i do this? |
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| 06:42.19 | arahael | discovered: Frankly, if you can get away with it, I wouldn't dualboot at all. Seriously consider a VM. |
| 06:47.02 | discovered | arahael, I really want to avoid this dual boot thing!I use windows in vmware. But some education/other company still want me to use windows for a short period of time. And that time i need to use full resource. |
| 06:48.48 | discovered | The difficulty i am having, i need to give some space to that partition. And debian has only / partition. Resizing the root partition may get worst. I dunno |
| 06:48.49 | discovered | heh |
| 06:49.13 | arahael | discovered: You could give the VM more storage? |
| 06:51.18 | discovered | Yes, Main vm used directly the SSD if i am in Debian. |
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| 06:56.52 | discovered | arahael, Some proctored tool does not work in Linux system. To be safe, I am told to use windows while i am prorctored |
| 06:57.18 | arahael | Not sure what 'proctored' means, but sure, yeah... Run that tool in the windows VM? |
| 06:57.19 | maxtim | how can I check if a directory is empty from a sub directory? if [ -d /path/to/parent/dir ] yada yada... |
| 06:57.52 | arahael | maxtim: If you're in that directory's subdirectory, you can usually assume that it's not empty. :) |
| 06:58.18 | maxtim | talkin bout sub dirs, arahael |
| 06:58.27 | arahael | maxtim: As am I. |
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| 06:59.01 | maxtim | ugh reluctant lol |
| 06:59.53 | arahael | maxtim: Instead of /path/to/parent/dir, you can probably just use: .. |
| 07:00.30 | maxtim | in my parent dir i have 0-9, a-z... it's music |
| 07:01.10 | maxtim | looking for empties to either delete or re-download |
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| 07:03.10 | maxtim | tangent, what's the most serious thing debian servers are known to service? |
| 07:08.06 | nevivurn | maxtim: as in, what kind of high-profile stuff runs on debian servers? |
| 07:08.24 | maxtim | nevivurn, sure... |
| 07:09.04 | maxtim | well, actually no |
| 07:11.27 | maxtim | i think imma have to retract my question. |
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| 08:01.02 | rrn | I just installed Debian x86_64, but when it starts up to the console (I did not install a GUI), the text is dim (yes, the system does respond, but all the text is very dim)... |
| 08:01.34 | rrn | BIOS, GRUB, and the OS bootup msgs were all of proper appearance |
| 08:03.16 | rrn | (this is not a laptop, but rather a constant brightness, contrast, etc. setting monitor connected to the VGA output of a server) |
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| 08:19.56 | abff | rrn I think that you can use xrandr to change brightness of the screen that isn't related to a backlight like you'd find on a laptop |
| 08:20.33 | arahael | Doesn't xrandr require x11? |
| 08:20.41 | abff | oh right its just tty |
| 08:20.44 | abff | my bad |
| 08:20.54 | abff | idk then |
| 08:24.01 | rrn | abff: thanks, I'll check it out sometime---right now it's suboptimal but ultimately usable---I mainly was concerned about it being a symptom of something important |
| 08:24.36 | rrn | abff: oh, never mind |
| 08:24.54 | rrn | yes, no X, this is a server |
| 08:25.18 | abff | I'm sure there's some brightness related thing but how ttys work is over my head |
| 08:25.40 | ratrace | without X there's no brightness settings. check hardware options |
| 08:27.21 | rrn | ratrace, I went through every single BIOS option in the past, before even the MemTest86+ stage |
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| 08:29.28 | arahael | THere's a particular stage where the console font is reloaded and the screen is configured - that's probably where that's done. |
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| 08:31.05 | rrn | ratrace, the BIOS is amazingly-minimal...I wasn't even able to verify that the RAM is in fact ECC and fully-buffered |
| 08:31.45 | rrn | arahael, I see, I'll look into it sometime |
| 08:32.38 | ratrace | checked monitor's buttons? there's an autoconfigure somethng something that should be used for VGA ports |
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| 08:44.38 | discovered | Ah.... Never had issue for OS upgrade before. I am trying dist-upgrade to testing and i am getting, The following packages have unmet dependencies:libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed |
| 08:46.28 | discovered | Tried to fix by install, 'apt-get install gcc-8-base mutter' gnome-session-bin : Breaks: gdm3 (< 3.33.90) but 3.30.2-3 is to be installed |
| 08:47.34 | akp55 | jmcnaught: i just figured out how to get debug messages from systemd-networkd, i'll take a look in a few hours. need to sleep =P |
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| 09:04.16 | flayer | akp55, everybody does after putting in the required hours to get debug messages from systemd |
| 09:05.01 | flayer | let me know when you finish your six month project to actually understand them |
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| 09:24.33 | LeMike | Hello there. I already asked in #ubuntu (having Xubunut) but I need some urgent help because the system is getting hotter and hotter. "sensors" shows that the fan is running at -1 RPM which I think means "it is off". |
| 09:24.47 | ratrace | yeah ask in #ubuntu |
| 09:24.49 | LeMike | I ran "pwmconfig" already but it did not create a config file |
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| 09:24.57 | ratrace | !based on debian |
| 09:24.57 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 09:25.29 | ratrace | especially when it comes to hardware (mis)behaving, ubuntu does crazy stuff for hardware enablement, so #debian is definitely never the right place to ask |
| 09:25.49 | LeMike | Well okay. What I am looking for is some cli tool to make the fan run at full speed again. But I keep waiting in Ubuntu then |
| 09:25.59 | LeMike | If it dies it dies |
| 09:26.11 | ratrace | that tool could be, might be, who knows, see the factoid above..... specific to ubuntu. |
| 09:27.09 | ratrace | it won't die, it might thermal throttle, unless your CPU is from the 20th century |
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| 11:06.59 | dym | Hey guys! Does anyone know a good wysiwyg html editor for debian 10? |
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| 11:24.37 | EdePopede | dym: the only editor of that kind i can remember to have used is bluefish. searching for "alternative to $program" should come up with some of sites comparing some or listing possible alternatives |
| 11:25.27 | EdePopede | ah, and here we go: atom, [neo]vi[m], geany... |
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| 11:34.51 | EdePopede | also just found this site https://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?HTMLEditorFamily |
| 11:35.55 | antto | ,v openarena |
| 11:35.56 | judd | Package: openarena on amd64 -- jessie: 0.8.8-9; stretch: 0.8.8-17; buster: 0.8.8+dfsg-2; bullseye: 0.8.8+dfsg-4; sid: 0.8.8+dfsg-4 |
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| 11:55.51 | mad_monk | I am trying to do a remote preseed installation and I wish to configure hostname and domain name through boot parameter. However, i am using ?= for domain name so that it will prompt during the installation process. |
| 11:56.08 | mad_monk | "/install.amd/vmlinuz auto=true priority=high netcfg/get_hostname?=mydebian netcfg/get_domain?=mydomain.local preseed/url=http://192.168.234.1/preseed.cnf vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz --- quiet" |
| 11:56.20 | mad_monk | The domain name prompt appears only when my priority is set to high. However, if the priority is set to high, the following two dialog box also appears: |
| 11:56.25 | mad_monk | (1) To scan the next DVD? |
| 11:56.29 | mad_monk | (2) To setup network mirror or not? |
| 11:56.42 | mad_monk | I tried adding the following two lines to the preseed file, however, it still prompts during the installation. No other questions are asked other than these two. |
| 11:56.51 | mad_monk | d-i cdrom-checker/nextcd boolean false |
| 11:56.55 | mad_monk | d-i apt-setup/no_mirror boolean true |
| 11:57.02 | mad_monk | My question: |
| 11:57.06 | mad_monk | (a) how to disable the above two prompts when using priority high? |
| 11:57.10 | mad_monk | (b) Does the line position matters in preseed configuration file. |
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| 12:50.44 | UncleCid | Common reasons meta key would randomly stop opening app launcher? :x |
| 12:51.01 | abrotman | remapped? Does it do anything now? |
| 12:51.11 | UncleCid | Not that I'm aware of |
| 12:51.56 | UncleCid | in the keyboard shortcuts tab in the application launcher settings won't let me set it to meta by itself |
| 12:53.00 | UncleCid | Hmm, I got it |
| 12:53.14 | UncleCid | alt+f1 apparently |
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| 12:55.49 | UncleCid | Another thing I need to address is.. I'm constantly having to reconfigure my display settings, and among all of that, the individual task managers I have per monitor aside from one end up not displaying anything, but they're there |
| 12:55.58 | UncleCid | I have to reconfigure them each boot |
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| 13:11.19 | dym | EdePopede: Thanks, but the point is to have a "parser"/browser within the tool, without having to modify the code, save, upload and then check in the browser. |
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| 13:14.29 | dym | EdePopede: ill just use a local webserver. |
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| 13:19.51 | EdePopede | dym: i think at least webdev dedicated tools should be able to do this with a keystroke. |
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| 13:21.02 | abff | UncleCid: what window manager / desktop environment are yo uusing? what do you mean by "task manager" |
| 13:21.08 | EdePopede | long ago i used phase5² on windows (only "free for private and school usage" and dead now, so no more than a reference) and iirc it used IE's embedding abilities to display the webpage in a tab |
| 13:21.46 | UncleCidd | plasma, and task manager being a widget |
| 13:22.00 | UncleCidd | to the start menu bar jawn |
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| 13:24.42 | abff | UncleCidd: ah sorry I don't know anything about kde stuff |
| 13:24.49 | UncleCidd | It's as if they lose which monitor they belong to |
| 13:24.58 | UncleCidd | No worries, thanks for being on the ready |
| 13:25.08 | abff | I only know xfce x) |
| 13:25.22 | UncleCidd | I just know what people have told me so far :) |
| 13:26.20 | UncleCidd | ah, appears the whole bar is frozen now lol |
| 13:26.31 | abff | sad |
| 13:26.39 | UncleCidd | water you going to do |
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| 13:27.45 | oxek | is tracker.debian.org down? |
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| 13:45.52 | oxek | does reportbug use encryption for communication with the debian bts? |
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| 13:48.53 | tarrie | hey, please could someone point me to a channel to ask a q about packaging a deb? thx |
| 13:54.30 | ratrace | oxek: it's email based |
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| 13:59.11 | SerajewelKS | what's the recommended way of handling an encrypted multi-volume btrfs root? with dm-raid + luks it's simpler as we just mirror the encrypted volume which means only one passphrase is required at boot. with multi-volume encrypted btrfs, i'm not sure how to avoid haviing to enter a passphrase per device. |
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| 14:00.08 | yanmaani | SerajewelKS: Can't you do encrypted LVM? |
| 14:00.50 | SerajewelKS | yanmaani: i'm not sure how that solves the problem. btrfs-on-LVM also eliminates the benefits of using btrfs raid in the first place. |
| 14:02.05 | yanmaani | Can't LVM present each hard drive as a logical volume? |
| 14:02.09 | SerajewelKS | it would be ideal if i could tell the ramdisk environment to try the same passphrase on all devices. if i have 3 devices for examaple, it will prompt for a passphrase three times. if the passphrase is the same, it would be nice if it tried the first one i entered to see if it works on the other disks. |
| 14:02.10 | yanmaani | And then you can do RAID on those |
| 14:02.29 | SerajewelKS | yanmaani: i would still have to decrypt each LVM PV individually. it presents the same problem. |
| 14:02.53 | SerajewelKS | you typically don't have this problem with md-raid because you mirror the encrypted volume, so there is only one volume to unlock |
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| 14:03.52 | marianna | Hi! I'm using debian testing and I want to install openjdk-7-jdk which is in oldoldstable... |
| 14:04.02 | another | !next |
| 14:04.02 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 14:04.06 | another | meh |
| 14:05.41 | marianna | do i need to install debian jessie in something like a virtualbox?? |
| 14:05.49 | SerajewelKS | i found some info here on using the same passphrase for multiple devices: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/392286/24533 |
| 14:06.01 | SerajewelKS | marianna: you could also use a chroot or docker |
| 14:06.02 | another | yanmaani: https://cryptsetup-team.pages.debian.net/cryptsetup/README.keyctl.html |
| 14:06.19 | UncleCid | "But I didn't even pay..." |
| 14:06.27 | oxek | ratrace: email based, using tls for smtp or without encryption? |
| 14:06.36 | marianna | ok SerajewelKS I'll google it |
| 14:06.37 | abff | UncleCid: success? |
| 14:06.44 | marianna | thanks! |
| 14:07.05 | SerajewelKS | another: i was the one asking about that :) |
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| 14:07.23 | another | sry. in a hurry |
| 14:08.14 | UncleCid | abff, it's a step in the correct direction. I will continue to fiddle and see what I can do |
| 14:09.38 | abff | UncleCid: just remember there's always other desktop environments, if you ever feel like you're being limited by your gui look for greener pastures. However the troubleshooting experience you get will be helpful no matter why you have to solve the problem ;) |
| 14:09.40 | SerajewelKS | another: but thanks for the additional link, i will look into configuring this |
| 14:11.04 | IvI4x | how is network configuration done in buster? Are you still supposed to use /etc/network/interfaces? Does IP configure the file for me? |
| 14:12.04 | abff | marianna: there is also LXCs which may or may not be better than docker. Lots of options :) |
| 14:12.54 | another | IvI4x: interfaces, systemd-networkd, $network-manager, ... |
| 14:13.01 | another | choose one |
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| 14:13.44 | ratrace | oxek: depends on your email client settings |
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| 14:14.31 | JyZyXEL | another: ifupdown2 also |
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| 14:15.08 | JyZyXEL | or wicd |
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| 14:17.22 | IvI4x | ok, give me somewhere to start please. If I wanted to use the IP program, would I first configure my devices in /etc/network/devices, and then manage it using ip, or would I do everything in ip |
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| 14:22.44 | marianna | thanks abff! I'm giving a try to chroot but thanks! |
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| 14:29.23 | SerajewelKS | IvI4x: are you using a graphical desktop environment? |
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| 14:30.45 | IvI4x | no, I'm trying to learn how to configure this stuff in cli |
| 14:31.15 | oxek | ratrace: I'm using the integrated client in reportbug |
| 14:31.20 | oxek | and I get this error: SMTP send failure: [Errno 101] Network is unreachable. Do you want to retry (or else save the report and exit)? |
| 14:31.33 | SerajewelKS | IvI4x: then on a default debian system, ifupdown (/etc/network/interfaces) is the installed mechanism |
| 14:31.37 | IvI4x | ex having multiple interfaces, connecting to an other computer directly over ethernet, or running a raspberry pi over only usb-c |
| 14:31.45 | SerajewelKS | IvI4x: you can switch to others if you want, like systemd-networkd |
| 14:31.50 | IvI4x | isn't ifconf deprecated? |
| 14:32.07 | SerajewelKS | IvI4x: what is ifconf? |
| 14:32.19 | ratrace | oxek: and otherwise the network and internet are available? |
| 14:34.23 | ratrace | oxek: also look at /etc/reportbug.conf, smtptls is not enabled by default |
| 14:34.33 | oxek | ratrace: yes, all networking is working |
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| 14:34.47 | oxek | I suspect it's not using tls, hence it is getting messed with by my ISP |
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| 14:36.30 | ratrace | oxek: very much possible, a lot of ISPs block port 25 |
| 14:36.53 | oxek | exactly |
| 14:37.05 | ratrace | oxek: not sure enabling tls would help, if it's trying explicit starttls, it'll still use port 25. better use a smarthost/smtphost |
| 14:37.19 | ratrace | you can use your actual email account's provider and credentials for that |
| 14:38.19 | IvI4x | SerajewelKS: I meant ifconfig thinking ifconfig ifup and ifdown were all the same program which I now read they aren't. Still I think all of them would be replaced by ip? |
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| 14:41.39 | oxek | I don't use an email account anymore that uses smtp. It's all webmail. |
| 14:42.33 | ratrace | oxek: your webmail is just an interface that requires a smtp somewhere |
| 14:42.55 | oxek | ratrace: true, but I don't have access to that. It's tutanota |
| 14:43.16 | ratrace | oxek: then save the report as a file, copy & paste into your webmail thingy |
| 14:43.32 | oxek | oh, that's possible? |
| 14:43.40 | oxek | I thought all bugreports had to be sent using bugreport |
| 14:43.59 | ratrace | iirc the report is a full email object, complete with headers |
| 14:44.28 | oxek | not sure I can modify the headers in the webinterface though |
| 14:45.15 | ratrace | oxek: you pretty much just need the body, recipient and subject line |
| 14:45.29 | ratrace | I don't think there's any x-headers to operate bts like that |
| 14:48.19 | oxek | if anyone's feeling generous, this is the reportbug generated bug https://termbin.com/osu1 |
| 14:49.06 | IvI4x | looks like there are a couple of things I don't understand yet with the interactions between ip, ifup, and the interfaces file. Atleast I've got a good place to start reading now |
| 14:49.12 | IvI4x | thanks :) |
| 14:49.41 | oxek | I think I'm done fighting with reportbug for the day, it should not be this hard to report a bug |
| 14:52.01 | ratrace | kudos to devs that made a dangerous distinction nonobvious and based on letter case. that's sarcasm :) |
| 14:52.46 | oxek | yeah |
| 14:52.49 | ratrace | but I don't think it's dangerous at all.... -F just specifies archive format |
| 14:53.07 | oxek | but if you do -f, you can overwrite files |
| 14:53.54 | ratrace | hrm, yea |
| 14:54.14 | oxek | it's a small thing, perhaps I should not have said 'dangerous', but it is an error in documentation that should be fixed |
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| 14:58.27 | ratrace | oxek: oh sure, I agree. |
| 14:58.54 | ratrace | you'll likely be told to report upstream tho |
| 14:59.09 | oxek | I don't think upstream really exists anymore, no updates since 2012 |
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| 14:59.27 | oxek | ,info atool |
| 14:59.28 | judd | Package atool (utils, optional) in buster/amd64: tool for managing file archives of various types. Version: 0.39.0-9; Size: 41.4k; Installed: 139k; Homepage: https://www.nongnu.org/atool/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/atool |
| 14:59.29 | ratrace | "The latest version of atool is 0.39.0, which was released on 2012-04-02" lol |
| 14:59.43 | ratrace | GoodLuckWithThat(tm) :) |
| 15:00.24 | oxek | I've wanted to report bugs to debian before, but always put it off because I did not know how to use reportbug. This weekend I finally have time to learn reportbug, and this looked like a good first issue to test. |
| 15:00.40 | ratrace | oxek: you can simply send that email to submit@bugs.debian.org if you didn't already. the content of it is important as reportbug adds all that package metadata, otherwise it's really just an email submission |
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| 15:08.07 | mason | I know this falls into the category of "survey" but I need to set up an APT caching proxy, and apt-cacher-ng is what I'm seeing. Anything else I should evaluate before I dive in? |
| 15:08.22 | oxek | ok, sent manually, will see if it lands at the bugtracker |
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| 15:10.27 | oxek | when does the bugreport appear on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=atool |
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| 15:13.51 | ratrace | oxek: after a while, the web pages are cached |
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| 15:14.42 | mason | Alright, apt-cacher-ng it is! |
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| 15:34.20 | raidghost | Hi! Is there a way to get a debian 10 installation (set up by 2 ssd drives in raid 1(mdraid) to work propperly in another computer? |
| 15:35.08 | raidghost | I recently bought a supermicro 4U server with 24 drive bays. |
| 15:35.55 | raidghost | And would like to use my full working debian 10 installation from my old server, to just replace in the new server. But it seems like the software raid is ment ONLY for the mainboard where i set it up the first time, Am i right? |
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| 15:41.56 | ratrace | raidghost: nope, if that's mdadm, then it doesn't matter what hardware is under it |
| 15:42.03 | oxek | ratrace: you mean hardware raid? |
| 15:42.19 | oxek | sorry, that was for raidghost |
| 15:42.28 | ratrace | if it's not mdadm but fakeraid or some other bios nonsense, then it might |
| 15:42.50 | ratrace | if it's full HW raid, then you need 100% same controller AND often same MODEL and version of the controller |
| 15:43.20 | jhutchins | Let me guess, no backup, because RAID! |
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| 15:45.44 | mason | raidghost: Have you tried it? What happened? On a reasonably new system you'll need to make sure to supply updated information via efibootmgr so it knows what to boot. |
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| 15:46.43 | mason | raidghost: Also, note that your SuperMicro might have a RAID controller that won't deal with straight disks. I bought one recently and had to replace the HBA with something that'd do IT mode. |
| 15:46.57 | raidghost | mason: ive just put the drive into the supermicro server. And all it gives is a blinking marker |
| 15:47.07 | raidghost | mason: the ssd is connected direct to mainboard |
| 15:47.22 | raidghost | since my raid card is dealing with the 18 8TB drive |
| 15:47.44 | mason | raidghost: Could still be something funny onboard, but if you're convinced it's not, then is it a UEFI install? |
| 15:48.01 | mason | raidghost: The computer doesn't know about MD-RAID until after the kernel's loaded. |
| 15:48.10 | raidghost | I guess its a Uefi install. Since thats what the mainboard had |
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| 15:49.09 | mason | raidghost: In that case, SuperMicro's fairly dodgy about giving you an EFI shell. You might boot rescue media and craft boot entries. |
| 15:50.17 | raidghost | mason: any chance you could guide me into a good site that tells how thats done in a propper way? |
| 15:51.13 | mason | raidghost: Sure. But as a quickie: efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -L debian -l '\EFI\debian\shimx64.efi' |
| 15:51.32 | mason | raidghost: This assumes your ESP is the first partition. If it's not, toss in a -p foo where foo is what partition it is. |
| 15:51.35 | raidghost | So i can do a install on another ssd, And then when system is running |
| 15:51.46 | raidghost | i can do that on that two ssd drives with the debian 10 ? |
| 15:52.00 | mason | raidghost: Eh? We're talking about boot variables, nothing on-disk. |
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| 15:52.28 | mason | raidghost: Boot rescue media and you should be able to get the boot variables loaded up and verify that the disks look right. |
| 15:52.57 | mason | raidghost: Good reference: https://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/installation.html |
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| 15:54.15 | mason | raidghost: Here, download the Debian live image (standard) and boot it, then gdisk -l /dev/sda, make sure it's got a smallish ESP at the front as partition 1. Mount it if you like and verify that the bits described on that site (or my sample command) are there. |
| 15:55.51 | Casper26 | anyone seen were just opening nividia-settings causes firefox to go transparent? |
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| 16:00.41 | raidghost | mason: Thanks for advice, i will give it a try, when back from work :) |
| 16:01.14 | mason | raidghost: Ping me if I'm still here and anything funny shows up. |
| 16:01.33 | mason | Working for another seven hours myself, as this weekend came up in mine in the rotation. |
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| 16:02.35 | mason | s/in mine/as mine/ |
| 16:03.40 | raidghost | mason: will do ;) |
| 16:03.58 | raidghost | take care. GBNS (God Bless None Stress) |
| 16:04.13 | mason | you too |
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| 16:09.32 | ruied_ | Hello. I have an error running ann app (aeon-gui) that depends on libpng12. I have downloaded the libpng and tried to install with dpkg -i libpng12-0_1.2.50-2+deb8u3_amd64.deb and it reports a missing dependency multiarch-support I have added architecture i386 but still can't install package. any idea? |
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| 16:16.31 | DanteD | I updated to bullseye (testing) and xfce no longer auto mounts usb devices, although they are shown in dmesg, any ideas? |
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| 16:22.46 | mason | DanteD: Make sure udisks2 is installed and active. |
| 16:22.52 | mason | It's awful but it does that. |
| 16:23.51 | flayer | i feel sick |
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| 16:24.30 | mason | flayer: Get checked out at a walk-in or something. Can't be too careful nowadays. |
| 16:25.34 | DanteD | mason: thx will try |
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| 16:27.58 | Arrow900 | I switched to bullseye, now TTY and plymouth resolution is wrong... How can I set it manually ? AMD GPU RX580 and 2560x1440 monitor... |
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| 16:29.29 | DanteD | I added my user to 'disk', enabled udisks2 service and installed gvfs, rebooted, works now |
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| 16:29.56 | DanteD | Although I still wonder why I have to be root to be allowed to write to usb discs |
| 16:30.29 | JyZyXEL | Arrow900: maybe you could use the video= cmdline parameter |
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| 16:33.22 | Arrow900 | okay JyZyXEL: I try that now |
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| 16:38.06 | Arrow900 | JyZyXEL: did not wotk, I tried adding it on /etc/default/grub and running update-grub. Tried both video=2560x1440-32 on GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX aswell as GRUB_GFXMODE |
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| 16:39.19 | DanteD | Arrow900: note you need to update grub & reboot for it to have effect |
| 16:39.28 | JyZyXEL | might also need to specify the output name? |
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| 16:40.19 | JyZyXEL | i use video=HDMI-A-3:2560x1440 for example |
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| 16:42.41 | Arrow900 | how can I see my output name ? |
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| 16:44.16 | Arrow900 | oh xrandr |
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| 16:50.56 | Arrow900 | no success :/ |
| 16:51.56 | DanteD | Arrow900: does setting correct mode work with xrandr ? |
| 16:55.26 | Arrow900 | under GNOME yes |
| 16:55.46 | Arrow900 | on tty no |
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| 16:58.39 | DanteD | weird. you could try to just make X auto set the correct resolution on start if you don't use tty much |
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| 17:00.36 | Arrow900 | Yeah its not issue in X, even tty is fine I dont mind text being huge on it. Main issue is plymouth being so low res its blurry and I need to unlock my hard drive on it every reboot |
| 17:00.43 | akp55 | hey would someone mind taking a look at this systemd-networkd config and see if anything is wrong? https://termbin.com/yt8r |
| 17:02.36 | akp55 | this is the output from the journal -> http://termbin.com/bu5jz i don't really get my its not managing the device or assigning an address to the interface |
| 17:06.36 | akp55 | oh, is it an ordering thing? |
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| 18:45.58 | marianna | SerajewelKS, chroot did the job, thanks :-) |
| 18:46.34 | bostongeek36 | good old chroot |
| 18:47.08 | marianna | haha |
| 18:49.22 | bostongeek36 | one of the many bonuses of linux |
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| 19:26.47 | akp55 | hey would someone mind taking a look at this systemd-networkd config and see if anything is wrong? https://termbin.com/yt8r. this is the output from the journal -> http://termbin.com/bu5jz i don't really get my its not managing the device or assigning an address to the interface |
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| 19:40.38 | LiquidAcid | hi there, i'm was searching for buster armhf root filesystem images, but as i understand you're supposed to use debootstrap for this -- can anyone confirm? |
| 19:42.30 | sney | there are some semi-official images maintained by debian developers (I know of some for the rpi, there may be others) but generally debian is intended to be installed |
| 19:42.44 | sney | debootstrap is one way to do that. depending on your hardware there may be an installer that works |
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| 19:43.49 | diogenes_ | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/armhf/iso-dvd/ |
| 19:43.51 | LiquidAcid | sney, thanks, i want to avoid the installer path since i already have a working distro on that system, i just wanna deploy the rootfs and switch the bootloader to boot debian instead of the current distor (which is gentoo) |
| 19:44.20 | LiquidAcid | diogenes_, sadly that's not a rootfs |
| 19:44.33 | diogenes_ | ahh |
| 19:45.23 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. Is there some program out there that will go through all the other programs and let me know which hidden directories I don't need to keep anymore? |
| 19:46.16 | sney | LiquidAcid: maybe these would be useful do you. https://raspi.debian.net/ otherwise, debootstrap is pretty straightforward |
| 19:46.27 | sney | s/do/for/ |
| 19:46.33 | jmcnaught | Lady_Aleena: there's BleachBit |
| 19:46.58 | LiquidAcid | sney, yeah, i already used debootstrap once or twice already, was just wondering since i know that ALARM has a generic armv7 rootfs available |
| 19:47.15 | LiquidAcid | so, it's debootstrap -- wish me luck :D |
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| 19:48.05 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: This is a very bad idea. |
| 19:48.25 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, care to elaborate? |
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| 19:49.18 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: Packages in distributions expect their distribution's kernels, with the distribution default options. The core OS also includes libraries and utilities that vary among distributions. |
| 19:50.03 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: This is why force-installing packages meant for other distributions will b0rk your system, sometimes right away, some times sneaking up on you. |
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| 19:50.38 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, give me an example |
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| 19:52.03 | jhutchins | RedHat and Mandrake had packages that could easily be installed on each other's system. Mandrake packages were optimised for Pentiums, RedHat's weren't. It was very tempting to hot rod your reliable RedHat system by installing Mandrake packages. Inevitably, this led to an un-bootable, un-fixable system. |
| 19:52.25 | LiquidAcid | well, we're not talking about redhat and mandrake here |
| 19:52.58 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: I've also seen people here who have done somethiing similar, mixing packages from a Debian Derived distro. Ended up the same way, clean install. |
| 19:53.18 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, where did i say anything about mixing something? |
| 19:53.28 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: No, we're not talking RedHat and Mandrake, we're talking distro-based Linux in general. |
| 19:53.49 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: Are you not planning to install a Debian core for a Gentoo userspace? |
| 19:54.15 | jhutchins | !frankendebian |
| 19:54.15 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall> |
| 19:54.20 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, no, again, where did i say this? |
| 19:54.46 | LiquidAcid | i want to migrate from gentoo to debian on this system |
| 19:54.53 | Lady_Aleena | jmcnaught, thank you. I just wish all these programs would put their configs in .config these days. |
| 19:54.59 | jhutchins | That's how I interpreted your post above 14:46 < sney> s/do/for/ |
| 19:55.11 | jhutchins | That's how I interpreted your post above, about preserving the Gentoo userspace. |
| 19:55.16 | LiquidAcid | or rather from gentoo userspace to debian userspace, i going to leave both the bootloader (u-boot) and the kernel (which is custom anyway) intact |
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| 19:55.27 | Maws | Probably a longshot, but anyone got any tips on what I could try to "rescue" a disk, I have a disk that AFAIK started to acting up with some errors in regards to "superblock", and a few times I was able to resurect it with e2fsck, but iirc the last time I tried it wanted to write several places, and I agreed and after that I was never able to access it again (though I have been able to recover some data with photorec) - I'm not 100% sure what |
| 19:55.27 | Maws | the disk was formated to, but I think it got a ext2 or ext3 FS, but in parted etc partition table comes up as a dos disk......)is there anything one can do to be sure about the filesystem, and also maybe restore the superblock ? |
| 19:55.33 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: If you want to migrate to Debian, do a Debian install. |
| 19:55.55 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, how would i do this? |
| 19:56.24 | jhutchins | Maws: Backups. |
| 19:56.29 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: B14:54 < LiquidAcid> i want to migrate from gentoo to debian on this system |
| 19:56.42 | LiquidAcid | i searched, but i don't think there is a armhf installer package, which i can run from an armhf system and which deploys an armhf system |
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| 19:56.56 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: Sorry. Back up the data you want to keep, run the installer, over-write Gentoo. |
| 19:57.10 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: Or run the installer and create a dual boot, then migrate the data. |
| 19:57.24 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: You really want to have a backup in case of "oops". |
| 19:57.27 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, care to point me where this installer can be found? |
| 19:57.31 | Maws | jhutchins: yea :) |
| 19:57.36 | jhutchins | !ig |
| 19:57.37 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian 10 "Buster" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual . See also <errata> and <buster release notes>. |
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| 19:58.53 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, there is no installer there, only bootable CD/DVD/BD images |
| 19:59.22 | LiquidAcid | like i said, i don't want to go the boot-from-another-media path |
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| 19:59.55 | LiquidAcid | if there's like a debian-installer.sh which i can call from gentoo userspace, then i'm all ears |
| 19:59.58 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: If you read that, you'll understand how the system works, and you'll understand that booting to another media is how you get there. |
| 20:00.00 | Lady_Aleena | Does anyone know what the rc stands for in file names like .bashrc? |
| 20:00.08 | jmcnaught | LiquidAcid: was your plan to boot into gentoo, run deboostrap on another partition or drive, then change the boot loader to boot the Debian partition? |
| 20:00.24 | LiquidAcid | jmcnaught, that's the plan |
| 20:00.31 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: There is not. If there were, parts of the OS in RAM would have their disk-based components overwritten, and the system would crash. |
| 20:00.46 | ryouma | resource |
| 20:00.52 | ryouma | LiquidAcid: |
| 20:00.56 | ryouma | Lady_Aleena: |
| 20:01.18 | Lady_Aleena | ryouma, |
| 20:01.30 | oxek | is /dev/full always full of binary zeros on all systems that provide /dev/full ? |
| 20:01.31 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, i don't want to boot from an install medium, that's not an acceptable solution, period. |
| 20:01.39 | jhutchins | Possibly 'resource configuration'. |
| 20:01.49 | oxek | meaning is /dev/full equivalent to /dev/zero for reading? |
| 20:02.06 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, thanks... |
| 20:02.17 | yanmaani | Can't you debootstrap into a chroot, then atomically remount / as /asd and /path/to/chroot as /, then reboot? |
| 20:02.26 | jmcnaught | LiquidAcid: as long as you're running debootstrap on a different drive or partition I don't see a problem. Definitely have backups of course. |
| 20:02.42 | yanmaani | Or debootstrap into partition X (assuming separate /home), then change /etc/fstab to mount X as /, then reboot? |
| 20:03.08 | ryouma | actually there is quite a lot on rc files. i would no longer trust the resource or resource control or configuration idea as i was told. " The ârcâ suffix goes back to Unix's grandparent, CTSS. It had a command-script feature called "runcom". Early Unixes used ârcâ for the name of the operating system's boot script, as a tribute to CTSS runcom." --- e.g. |
| 20:03.11 | jmcnaught | https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/armhf/apds03.en.html |
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| 20:03.19 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: You should still read the IG, because there are clearly aspects of this you don't understand. It covers debootstrap. |
| 20:03.35 | LiquidAcid | jmcnaught, thanks, no important files on the device |
| 20:03.52 | jmcnaught | LiquidAcid: that link above is how to debootstrap from another distro |
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| 20:06.36 | jhutchins | LiquidAcid: So your fear is that the installer will fail and leave you with an unbootable system? |
| 20:07.28 | LiquidAcid | jhutchins, no |
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| 20:38.17 | hassoon | when i run wine whatever.exe as root, the sound does work in wine, but when running with a normal non-root user , the sound in wine does not work at all |
| 20:38.20 | hassoon | how can i fix this |
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| 20:55.48 | Thedarkb | When apt says "Setting up <package>..." what's it actually doing? |
| 20:55.58 | Thedarkb | Is it running postinst? |
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| 21:13.16 | LiquidAcid | jmcnaught, well, that was really smooth sailing (even works with debootstrap --foreign) |
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| 21:18.26 | buu | What's the simplest way to install package nut onto testing? |
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| 21:19.19 | buu | augh |
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| 21:22.52 | dashs | I'm try to disable wi-fi on a Dell with mt7601u -- it is called by mac80211 and cfg80211 |
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| 21:23.36 | dashs | blacklist all 3? |
| 21:24.40 | LiquidAcid | dashs, why not use rfkill? |
| 21:25.03 | tomreyn | if you're trying to prevent any wifi communication now and in the future, yes, but blacklisting just the immediate driver should suffice. |
| 21:25.40 | tomreyn | you may also be able to disable this on the 'bios', if it supports this. |
| 21:27.15 | LiquidAcid | or just use rfkill block on the device |
| 21:27.29 | ryouma | are there any good merging procedures for debian packages? suppose you are running stable smoothly, then your computer crashes. you use a backup of boot and root for about 6 months. during that time, packages change, and you change /etc. then later you get the version just before your crash. what do you do to merge? |
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| 21:28.15 | dashs | LiquidAcid: I'llcheck that |
| 21:29.00 | ryouma | 3 versions: 1) ancestor (your old backup) 2) your running copy derived from 1 3) your most recent backup before crash derived from 1. you want to merge package lists and /etc configurations. |
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| 21:32.08 | tomreyn | ryouma: what do you mean by "crash"? also, the procedure you describe, of mixing different patch levels of debian package contents, seems like a bad strategy to me. |
| 21:32.31 | tomreyn | i'm not certain that i'm getting your explanation correctly, though |
| 21:33.03 | LiquidAcid | ryouma, i don't understand why you use two backup states, what's the point? |
| 21:33.05 | tomreyn | finally, what you call 'backups' seem to be snapshots rather, based on your description |
| 21:33.19 | LiquidAcid | just use the most recent backup state for your recovery |
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| 21:40.14 | rgr | wheres the best place to add something like "shutdown -h 00:00" in startup so its set every day? |
| 21:41.29 | ryouma | when i say backup here, i mean a complete running debian system, snapshotted off of running system, and with fstab etc. fixed so that it is bootable to be identical to the system at the time the backup was made. for health reasons i do not have access to (3), but when i do have access to it, i will want to merge package and /etc changes (with manual intervention to just get what is meaningful). the NET EFFECT, mod |
| 21:41.29 | ryouma | ulo manual intervention (i.e. i will select the changes i deem useful), is that packages and /etc configurations (/etc files are modified via debconf and also manually) are merged as follows: the delta from (1) above to (3) above gets "applied" to (2). despite the apparent complexity of this description in the light of "just use most recent backup" i imagine that problems similar to this are common in practice. |
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| 21:42.10 | ryouma | LiquidAcid: tomreyn |
| 21:44.58 | LiquidAcid | ryouma, i still don't see why you need two backup states for recovery |
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| 21:45.55 | LiquidAcid | if your current system state is lost, you recover from the last backup state you have, case closed |
| 21:46.04 | LiquidAcid | i don't see what kind of merging you're supposed to do here |
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| 21:46.33 | rgr | last succesful backup state - not all are ;) |
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| 21:49.07 | ryouma | it's kind of hard to respond to "case closed" |
| 21:49.20 | ryouma | when i have described a non-case-closed situation |
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| 21:50.59 | LiquidAcid | ryouma, it's just that your situation does not make any sense to me |
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| 21:52.43 | ryouma | if nobody has any answers, i'm guessing there is nothing out there for debian and most people ignore such problems rather than seek package and config merging of this type |
| 21:53.20 | LiquidAcid | ryouma, gentoo has etc-update, if that's what you're looking for |
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| 22:02.44 | dka | Hi |
| 22:02.49 | dka | I need help |
| 22:03.06 | dvs | !ask |
| 22:03.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 22:03.18 | dka | I broke my Debian os. I did apt autoremove because it was advised and it have removed the Linux kernel 5.2 while I use 5.7 |
| 22:03.41 | dka | For some reason now I syst start in emergency mode and.i don't have internet |
| 22:06.31 | dka | Can i undo a apt get remove ? |
| 22:08.34 | dka | Is there some revert solution to apt autoremove |
| 22:08.58 | dka | I have failed to find module autofs24 in dmesg |
| 22:09.02 | dka | Anyone? |
| 22:09.12 | LiquidAcid | dka, so which kernel is it using now? |
| 22:09.37 | dka | 5.7.0 |
| 22:09.41 | dka | Bpo 2 |
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| 22:10.51 | dka | LiquidAcid any clue ? |
| 22:11.47 | LiquidAcid | dka, and you said that autoremove removed 5.2? |
| 22:11.54 | dka | Yes |
| 22:11.59 | LiquidAcid | dka, so were you still using 5.2 at that point? |
| 22:12.08 | dka | No I was not |
| 22:12.11 | dka | I was using 5.7 |
| 22:12.17 | dka | Maybe it is not related |
| 22:12.29 | dka | But this command I tried to cancel it while it was removing the kernel |
| 22:12.45 | LiquidAcid | i don't see how removing a kernel that you weren't even using can cause the system dropping to recovery now |
| 22:13.00 | LiquidAcid | <dka> But this command I tried to cancel it while it was removing the kernel <- ? |
| 22:13.22 | LiquidAcid | i don't understand this part |
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| 22:14.32 | dka | I canceled the command to autoremove Linux header kernel 5.2 |
| 22:14.55 | dka | So I am worried that it breaj the os because it was working and stopped in. The middle |
| 22:16.08 | LiquidAcid | dka, ok, so you interrupted an apt action |
| 22:16.10 | dka | It says at boot |
| 22:16.20 | dka | Failed to start Load Kernel modules |
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| 22:16.23 | dka | Failed |
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| 22:16.38 | dka | And failed to mount/boot/efi |
| 22:16.53 | dka | Yes I interrupted the apt action |
| 22:16.56 | LiquidAcid | well, usually the initramfs is regenerated when kernels change |
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| 22:17.14 | LiquidAcid | you probably interrupted during that, and now you don't have any working initrd |
| 22:17.28 | LiquidAcid | no initrd, no non-builtin drivers, no network |
| 22:17.55 | dvs | dka, are you using wireless to connect to internet? |
| 22:18.41 | dka | I have both |
| 22:18.42 | LiquidAcid | not sure if it works from recovery, but you could try running update-initramfs -u all |
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| 22:19.17 | dvs | dka and both don't work? |
| 22:19.23 | dka | All is not a valid argument |
| 22:19.35 | dka | Yes no network even if networking service is enabled |
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| 22:20.25 | LiquidAcid | update-initramfs -k all -u |
| 22:20.56 | LiquidAcid | or update-initramfs -u -k all |
| 22:21.01 | LiquidAcid | i always mess up the syntax :( |
| 22:21.24 | dka | I tried to do with just -u and restarted but now I can only boot in busy box |
| 22:21.51 | dka | With initramfs |
| 22:21.56 | dka | What did I do ? |
| 22:23.07 | LiquidAcid | but you have network again? |
| 22:23.13 | dka | Nothing |
| 22:23.15 | dka | Its worst |
| 22:23.35 | dka | I cant even acces my hard-drive now |
| 22:23.45 | dvs | update-initramfs without the -k option only updates the latest version |
| 22:23.45 | dka | How do I quit initramfs |
| 22:23.50 | dka | I need to back-up |
| 22:24.08 | dka | I show you a pick when I boot now |
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| 22:26.16 | dka | https://i.ibb.co/8YkdB7s/20200823-002416.jpg |
| 22:26.22 | dka | How do I quit that please |
| 22:27.39 | LiquidAcid | dka, so what does cat /proc/cmdline say? |
| 22:28.12 | dka | I am not in the bash |
| 22:28.39 | LiquidAcid | busybox also has cat |
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| 22:31.40 | dvs | looks like it can't find the drive with the kernel on it. Did you reformat that drive? |
| 22:31.51 | dvs | er partition |
| 22:32.59 | LiquidAcid | dvs, he obviously didn't, or does debian use a separate boot partition by default nowdays? |
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| 22:33.58 | dvs | some people do. I don't |
| 22:35.13 | dka | https://ibb.co/1ZStsC1 |
| 22:35.25 | dka | It says that when I run proc cmdline |
| 22:36.27 | dka | I have a Debian bookable key on me |
| 22:36.46 | wrksx | what about the message saying UUID not found? |
| 22:37.06 | wrksx | I've just checked the pic |
| 22:37.27 | LiquidAcid | dka, can you also do: ls -lh /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 22:38.10 | dka | Gimme all the command at once I am on my only device left my smartphone.. |
| 22:38.46 | dka | I cant format |
| 22:38.52 | dka | Omg |
| 22:39.00 | dka | Save me |
| 22:39.04 | LiquidAcid | sry, i won't know the next cmd in advance |
| 22:39.29 | wrksx | dka: it looks like it can't find the UUUID provided in /proc/cmdline |
| 22:39.48 | LiquidAcid | woo, captain obvious has appeared |
| 22:40.00 | wrksx | can you find the UUID in the ls command outpus |
| 22:40.05 | wrksx | *output |
| 22:40.10 | dka | https://ibb.co/DDQ0d4w |
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| 22:40.20 | dka | When i try to boot on Debian USB key |
| 22:40.32 | dka | Is my computer dead ? |
| 22:41.20 | dka | Sorry if I am slow. The laptop takes time on each reboot + I use the smartphone |
| 22:41.25 | LiquidAcid | dka, nothing is dead here |
| 22:41.25 | dka | Just doing your cmd captures |
| 22:42.17 | dka | There is no /dev/disk |
| 22:42.40 | dka | How can I get access to the kernel |
| 22:42.46 | dka | And hard drive |
| 22:42.49 | dka | And formst |
| 22:43.06 | dka | I do not have another computer but my USB key |
| 22:43.15 | dka | Tomorrow is sunday |
| 22:43.19 | dka | Oh God. Save me |
| 22:43.24 | LiquidAcid | anyway, your thumbdrive is probably dead, better don't use it |
| 22:43.49 | dka | Thumbdrive? |
| 22:43.57 | wrksx | maybe the blkid command is available? |
| 22:43.58 | LiquidAcid | the usb key |
| 22:43.59 | dka | What do you mean by thumdrive |
| 22:44.05 | dka | The usb key is not plugged |
| 22:44.20 | dka | It says I need the kernel |
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| 22:44.26 | LiquidAcid | invalid magic number usually indicates a corrupted file (iirc it's a message from the bootloader) |
| 22:44.32 | dka | And how can i do without it? |
| 22:44.40 | dka | I don't have USB on my s9 |
| 22:45.21 | wrksx | I'd try to fix the UUID in /proc/cmdline |
| 22:45.23 | LiquidAcid | well, you should use a different/new usb key anyway |
| 22:45.34 | dka | I dont have one its Saturday evening |
| 22:45.45 | dka | I have another one but there is no debian on it |
| 22:45.57 | dka | I cant transfer from.my phone to my laptop anyway |
| 22:46.11 | LiquidAcid | well, i'm just saying that using a corrupted usb key to recover your system is probably going to break more than it's going to fix |
| 22:46.16 | dka | I am a bit fucked am I? |
| 22:46.34 | dka | I have what I have. In the middle of nowhere |
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| 22:47.02 | dka | I can wait Monday and buy a new laptop to fix this one |
| 22:47.35 | LiquidAcid | dka, that's a bit... radical |
| 22:48.03 | wrksx | a working bootable stick with a live system could probably help too |
| 22:48.14 | wrksx | and cheaper |
| 22:48.54 | dka | I am in prague |
| 22:49.02 | dka | Not sur where can I get those. First time gère |
| 22:49.34 | dka | I know I must have my work weekly meeting on Wednesday and work to finish. So I need a way fast to boot this think or get a new one |
| 22:49.39 | dka | I didnt expected that today. |
| 22:50.00 | LiquidAcid | dka, you could probably try to provide the rootfs directly |
| 22:50.05 | dka | Lenovo center is near door and the laptop is under warranty but not sure if they can warranty on Linux or fix it soon |
| 22:50.15 | dka | How do i do that ? |
| 22:50.25 | LiquidAcid | can you access the bootloader? i assume it's grub2 |
| 22:50.34 | dka | I can |
| 22:50.38 | dka | How ? |
| 22:50.44 | LiquidAcid | grub should let you edit the boot commandline |
| 22:50.47 | dka | When it boot I have 3 choices |
| 22:50.59 | dka | Ok but is it gonna break more ? |
| 22:51.07 | LiquidAcid | i think if you select an entry and press e it goes into edit mode |
| 22:51.18 | dka | That's the only way ? Teach me |
| 22:51.23 | LiquidAcid | edits are volatile, i don't think you even save them to disk |
| 22:51.50 | wrksx | but managing to boot once would be a big step in the fixing path |
| 22:52.01 | dka | Lol |
| 22:52.04 | dka | I was able to boot |
| 22:52.12 | wrksx | but you're not anymore |
| 22:52.16 | wrksx | are you? |
| 22:53.09 | dka | I start irc just a sec |
| 22:53.50 | dka | I can't start irc |
| 22:53.55 | dka | So I used an older kernel 5.6 |
| 22:54.01 | dka | But I am not able to pass the login |
| 22:54.25 | LiquidAcid | sorry, you lost me there |
| 22:54.26 | dka | I can still access internet |
| 22:54.31 | dka | Well in grub |
| 22:54.37 | dka | I had an older kernel the 5.6 |
| 22:54.42 | dka | I choose to start the os with it |
| 22:55.02 | LiquidAcid | ok |
| 22:55.04 | dka | Now I can almost run. I just can't login to my desktop but it work with the consoke |
| 22:55.11 | dka | How can i delete 5.7 kernel |
| 22:55.13 | dka | And reinstall |
| 22:55.22 | dka | And perhaps I should make a new key and just formay |
| 22:55.38 | LiquidAcid | you should leave that usb key alone |
| 22:56.33 | LiquidAcid | and make sure that your initramfs are up-to-date |
| 22:56.51 | dka | How ? |
| 22:57.08 | LiquidAcid | update-initramfs -u -k all |
| 22:57.16 | LiquidAcid | and better do update-grub as well |
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| 22:59.15 | dka | I did thwt |
| 22:59.28 | dka | But still in busy box initramfs on kernel 5.7 |
| 22:59.40 | dka | I reboot in 5.6 thats the only place where I can use apt and perhaps fix it |
| 22:59.45 | dka | Thats how I broke it |
| 23:00.22 | LiquidAcid | maybe check if update-initramfs even regenerates the initrd for that kernel? |
| 23:00.32 | dka | I cant run it on 5.7 |
| 23:01.40 | LiquidAcid | and why? |
| 23:02.11 | another | try: apt reinstall linux-image-amd64 |
| 23:02.15 | dvs | "there's a hole in the bucket..." |
| 23:02.32 | dka | Because I start in busybox |
| 23:03.04 | LiquidAcid | dka, that's not what i was asking |
| 23:03.28 | LiquidAcid | you should check which initramfs are regenerated, the tool tells you |
| 23:04.19 | tomreyn | linux-image-5.7.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 would be the package to purge + install / reinstall should that really be needed |
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| 23:07.52 | dka | I am trying that now |
| 23:08.40 | dka | Reinstallimg the kernel did it |
| 23:09.04 | dka | Now I am on kernel 5.7 in the console |
| 23:09.13 | dka | But I can't login to cinnamon desktop |
| 23:09.25 | dka | When i do it just pass the login and show a login agaib |
| 23:09.28 | dka | Even with root |
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| 23:12.21 | n4dir | what i do in such cases is a) create a different user and test if he has the same problem b) stop the display-manager from autostart during boot via systemctl and install a window-manager to start that one with startx |
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| 23:12.31 | n4dir | same test for both users |
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| 23:13.29 | n4dir | then some files to check come to mind: ~/.xsession-errors or such and /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:14.00 | dka | Me? |
| 23:14.07 | n4dir | one could also install a window-manager and choose that from the display-manager. |
| 23:14.11 | n4dir | yes, dka |
| 23:14.56 | n4dir | i didn't follow closely, i just said what i usually do to troubleshoot in such cases. |
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| 23:16.03 | dka | I think it is good. I hqd to reinstall cinnamon |
| 23:16.12 | dka | What a stress |
| 23:16.14 | n4dir | and it works now? |
| 23:16.20 | dka | Thanks you are my family |
| 23:16.26 | n4dir | ah, great then |
| 23:16.45 | dvs | where's my allowance??? ;-P |
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| 23:22.35 | nifker | Why cant I select btrfs in gparted? |
| 23:22.56 | another | did you install btrfs-progs? |
| 23:26.12 | nifker | ah ok |
| 23:26.19 | nifker | thank you |
| 23:31.11 | nifker | Im trying to add a disk to fstab like this: "UUID=ac08836f-f9b5-4218-b06a-7a976fe708a7 /data btrfs errors=remount-ro 0 3" |
| 23:31.35 | nifker | but I get this "mount: /data: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error." when I exec mount -a |
| 23:31.48 | nifker | but mount /dev/sda1 /data works fine |
| 23:33.51 | another | blkid /dev/sda1 |
| 23:34.02 | another | does the uuid match? |
| 23:35.45 | another | btw: you might want to specify how to handle atime |
| 23:36.09 | dka | I lost my sound |
| 23:36.13 | dka | it seems pulseaudio is not running |
| 23:36.25 | dka | when I run it from command line, I have wrong speaker devices and no microphone |
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| 23:36.55 | dka | I can connect to a bluetooth speaker and play the sound there, but I must keep the terminal open after typing `pulseaudio`, how can I do ? |
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| 23:45.45 | nifker | another: do I need UUID or UUID_SUB? |
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| 23:47.34 | nifker | ok UUID it seems |
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| 23:58.16 | nifker | oh it was bc of errors=remount-ro - what does it do? |
| 23:58.30 | sney | that remounts the volume as read-only if there are errors. |
| 23:58.45 | sney | it's a safety measure basically |
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