| 00:00.24 | PyR3X | another: use systemd |
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| 00:00.58 | another | any documentation on that? |
| 00:01.31 | somiaj | another: don't quite folow, what do you mean by initializes the enviorment? YOu mean your shell? |
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| 00:05.41 | another | basically run a login shell, eg. source .profile, .bashrc |
| 00:06.11 | somiaj | you shouldn't have to do this at boot, but when you activate a shell/login. |
| 00:06.45 | somiaj | how do you login? Depending on how you run a shell ~/.bashrc, or ~/.profile (or ~/.bash_profile) should be parsed already. |
| 00:08.10 | another | via ssh |
| 00:08.36 | somiaj | ssh should be using a login shell and parsing ~/.profile or ~/.bashprofile |
| 00:09.02 | another | the important point was *on boot* |
| 00:09.50 | somiaj | I personally have my ~/.profile source ~/.bashrc (But I don't use a shell other than bash) |
| 00:10.17 | somiaj | on boot doesn't mean much here, shells are setup when they run (not at boot) |
| 00:13.05 | somiaj | why do you think you need this at boot? A service not having its enviorment variables setup correctly? |
| 00:14.02 | another | because i want to start a tmux server as user on boot |
| 00:14.49 | another | which needs the env already sourced and set up |
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| 00:19.50 | somiaj | tmux isn't a server. Anyways, what you need this at boot for? minecraft? There are ways to get the unit to setup the enivorment run tmux at boo as a system unit file. |
| 00:25.26 | gry | minetest works ok |
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| 00:25.34 | gry | it is very similar to minecraft |
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| 00:27.28 | another | 1) tmux does have a server component 2) this has nothing to do with minecraft |
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| 00:32.15 | somiaj | anyways, you need to configure the systemd unit file and any enviorment variables you need when launching tmux can be configured there. |
| 00:33.52 | somiaj | I saw some suggestions in google on how to write said unit file. |
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| 00:43.07 | another | thank you for your input |
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| 06:03.55 | independent | https://pastebin.com/Vb0iSHE3 |
| 06:04.34 | sney | !kali-magic |
| 06:04.35 | dpkg | Kali Linux is just an operating system. It does not magically turn you into a hacker. It is also offtopic in #debian. Please fulfill your fantasies in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net. See also <based on debian> and <they don't know>. |
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| 06:09.34 | nvz | dpkg, what is they don't know? |
| 06:09.34 | dpkg | We're sorry your distro's channel isn't being helpful, but that doesn't make it appropriate to use #debian for non-Debian questions. Please go back to your channel and wait patiently for better help, or install Debian and party with us. |
| 06:09.55 | nvz | hmm.. and here I thought it was a song by Jon B on Cool Relax :P |
| 06:10.18 | nvz | wanders off to youtube to play Jon B |
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| 09:26.01 | jelly | Nokaji, leaving just one channel leaves the others unchanged, though; that's why I asked |
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| 09:31.51 | Deknos | hey, is there some unix tool which prints out certain ipv4/6 network prefixes? like something like giveme -4 -localnetwork -cidrformat? it's not a big task building that myself, but i somehow suspect someone already did that |
| 09:35.55 | b1ack0p | hi there |
| 09:36.08 | b1ack0p | is there a non free firmware for old ati radeon x1400 gpus? |
| 09:38.20 | jelly | Deknos, ipcalc ? |
| 09:39.02 | jelly | unsure what the tool would do specifically, from your description |
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| 09:42.25 | Deknos | that one sounds quite right. i will investigate it |
| 09:43.09 | Deknos | hum, i calculates effective adresses, but only for ipv4 |
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| 09:48.08 | Deknos | but since for example network prefixes for certain netclasses for ipv6 seemed to change at the beginning of ipv6 it would be nice having a tool which outputs that |
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| 09:54.00 | unborn | black0 |
| 09:54.28 | unborn | b1ack0p: no.. sorry. |
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| 09:54.39 | b1ack0p | wat |
| 09:54.46 | b1ack0p | no what? |
| 09:55.08 | unborn | b1ack0p: old ati radeon x1400 gpus.... |
| 09:56.08 | b1ack0p | so? |
| 09:56.20 | yann-kaelig | Hi. I'm configuring a bridge interface and I would like to know if there is something similar to USERCTL option from redhat ( users are/are not allowed to control this device. ) or if I can do something similar on Debian ? |
| 09:56.23 | b1ack0p | i installed ati-amd firmware and issue is gone |
| 09:56.45 | jelly | !win b1ack0p |
| 09:56.45 | dpkg | Congratulations, b1ack0p! You have won the US presidency! |
| 09:56.46 | unborn | b1ack0p: then why question posted here then? |
| 09:57.11 | b1ack0p | :p |
| 09:57.13 | jelly | it's the best users who solve their own issue |
| 09:57.21 | b1ack0p | am i now the new Trump? lol |
| 09:57.23 | unborn | b1ack0p: troll |
| 09:57.34 | b1ack0p | unborn: i am not troll |
| 09:57.45 | b1ack0p | i got the answer in ##linux |
| 09:57.48 | b1ack0p | before here |
| 09:57.59 | b1ack0p | so i asked in both place |
| 09:58.04 | jelly | unborn, no reason to get antagonistic |
| 09:58.19 | b1ack0p | i mean they suggested it maybe debian non free thingy |
| 09:58.23 | b1ack0p | i asked here |
| 09:58.29 | jelly | it's all fine |
| 09:58.30 | b1ack0p | then i googled and found the firmware package then installed |
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| 09:58.58 | unborn | jelly its been solved back in a days.. gentoo times :) however its not within debian nor ubuntu.. light years away.. perhaps you right I was antagonistic a bit too much.. sorry b1ack0p .. so your issue is solved right? |
| 09:59.18 | b1ack0p | it is ok |
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| 09:59.28 | unborn | back to my dark corner |
| 09:59.32 | b1ack0p | yea warning in dmesg is gone after firmware install and reboot |
| 10:01.49 | unborn | great! |
| 10:03.50 | b1ack0p | :p |
| 10:04.13 | b1ack0p | jelly then i will make america great again :p |
| 10:05.17 | jelly | they need someone to do that |
| 10:05.27 | b1ack0p | they already have someone lol |
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| 10:05.46 | jelly | doing a very, very bad job |
| 10:06.26 | unborn | 100yrs ago they should done it.. maga is gone and usa is gone.. here we talk about debian.. usa is somewhere in different galaxy.. |
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| 10:06.39 | unborn | no politics, just code |
| 10:07.04 | unborn | pls |
| 10:08.30 | b1ack0p | sudo apt purge trump :p |
| 10:08.34 | b1ack0p | fine? lol |
| 10:08.48 | b1ack0p | well anyway other candidates are not also different than him :p |
| 10:08.51 | unborn | i use su :D |
| 10:09.38 | unborn | of course they are not - as I mentioned usa is gone. anyway back to topic. |
| 10:09.41 | b1ack0p | ok then you can remove him as su - :p |
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| 10:14.46 | unborn | jelly I have bash which monitors my ip, when ip is changed - I would like to replace it within server via ssh - as root I can do this, then reboot my bind - do I need to use dns keys or I can just apply my bash ? obviously I am looking for proper solution and dns sec keys seems to be messy crap... whats your opinion? at least I am here making those pointless comments to jon doe kid - I should ask you...please if you have time - advice. massive thanks. |
| 10:16.48 | unborn | - also I know its out of topic.. but by any chance.. |
| 10:21.32 | unborn | jelly: its so obvious, sorry to even mention you. - it worked as designed while I do manage my dns on my own. - problem solved. sorry to bother you. have great day. |
| 10:21.58 | unborn | meh its working as in plan :) |
| 10:23.41 | unborn | I have wrote my dyndns based on isp...... what a thingy |
| 10:24.33 | unborn | - and I was put on mute, no one reads me :D - well that's great |
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| 10:31.53 | jelly | you solved it already, but nsupdate is a thing |
| 10:33.00 | unborn | thanks.. yeah nsupdate is messy 'a thing' but it works for some people. |
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| 10:34.23 | unborn | you can unmute me jelly - as usually I will beehive properly and stay quiet in corner :) - thank you. have good day. |
| 10:36.15 | jelly | you're not muted |
| 10:36.52 | jelly | (you never were, not in months I thinks) |
| 10:37.50 | ratrace | jelly: who are you talking to? |
| 10:38.19 | unborn | jelly normally they do when I ask question. I ain't speak here for about 9 months just sometime when it was so obvious someone had to said politely that he is doing wrong.. |
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| 10:40.17 | unborn | jelly really? :) nice try... well some things never change in this channel.. its okay, the quieter I've become about debian the more a hear and learn, even ratrace cannot read me, never mind.. I - was trying to be help-full? |
| 10:40.45 | jelly | !slap ratrace |
| 10:40.46 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across ratrace's face |
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| 10:49.05 | ratrace | Owie! |
| 10:49.19 | ratrace | unborn: I was just kidding. |
| 10:50.00 | flayer | this is weird |
| 10:50.17 | n4dir | tell me about it ... |
| 10:50.33 | unborn | ratrace: you seen my messages here? all a long ? I was really not muted? *usually I was twat here really bad one in past* |
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| 10:51.49 | unborn | i really though I was muted... strange, however you are op.. means you possibly can read unread etc.. |
| 10:52.23 | unborn | flayer: it is even for me. never mind back to topic guys |
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| 10:54.37 | unborn | jelly, if that's true, my sincerely deeply apologies and still valid thingy, the quieter I've become the better me! |
| 10:55.09 | unborn | clear |
| 10:55.12 | unborn | meh |
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| 10:55.36 | ratrace | if you were muted you wouldn't be able to post to the channel at all. there's no shadow ban on freenode afaik. |
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| 11:47.47 | linearain | hi, could someone help me boot after replacing the motherboard? Getting "Gave up waiting for root file system device..." "ALERT UUID=... does not exist." |
| 11:49.31 | ratrace | linearain: what kind of rootfs was it? filesystem? lvm? mdadm? fakeraid? hardware raid? |
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| 11:53.20 | linearain | ratrace, it was ext4 filesystem on debian buster |
| 11:54.09 | linearain | also before replacing the mobo i did "swapoff -a", maybe that messed up the UUIDs? |
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| 12:04.25 | ratrace | linearain: doubtful. I've never heard of filesystem changing UUID when motherboard changes, unless that UUID was not of filesystem itself but a hardware/fakeraid device or something. It's possible network interface name changes, nvme devices change, but not filesystem. |
| 12:05.20 | linearain | ratrace, it also says: |
| 12:05.21 | linearain | - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) |
| 12:05.21 | linearain | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.21 | linearain | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:06.38 | linearain | where do i set rootdelay when i am at graphical grub? when i press 'e' to edit theres a ton of lines |
| 12:07.12 | ratrace | linearain: on the vmlinuz line. was/is this an EFI system? |
| 12:07.22 | jhutchins | linearain: Does the BIOS on the new motherboard actually see the drive at the correct address? |
| 12:07.24 | linearain | yes, both motherboards are older |
| 12:07.47 | linearain | the motherboard does show the name of the drive, what do you mean by address? |
| 12:08.20 | linearain | wait i will try to find the address |
| 12:08.26 | jelly | linearain, boot a linux livecd, pastebin lsblk output, tell us where the root fs is (supposed to be) |
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| 12:09.51 | linearain | ok |
| 12:11.11 | linearain | jhutchins, i cant find an address in the bios just the drive name |
| 12:11.43 | jelly | if the drivers are significantly different, initrd might have to be recreated |
| 12:13.08 | jhutchins | linearain: Yeah, it's not an address, it's like drive1, drive2, and we want to be sure it's 1, and that it's selected as first in the boot order. |
| 12:13.31 | linearain | jhutchins, i got only 1 drive in the system |
| 12:13.46 | jhutchins | jelly: I really wouldn't expect any differences in SATA drivers. |
| 12:14.33 | linearain | new mobo is SiS chipset, previous was Intel |
| 12:14.44 | ratrace | efi trusted boot not passing required params to the kernel? |
| 12:15.10 | ratrace | %s/trusted/secure/ |
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| 12:34.26 | shtrb | Is there a problem with deb.debian.org today ? I'm getting some crazy slow update speed today from it. |
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| 12:35.12 | ratrace | isn't that just DNS redirector? |
| 12:35.22 | shtrb | I had checked on two different machines (each on it's own network connection) and both getting only ~70kbps downspeed |
| 12:35.35 | shtrb | ratrace, I thought it was a CDN service |
| 12:36.40 | ratrace | getting 10MBps here |
| 12:37.47 | shtrb | That is what I normally expect :-( |
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| 12:38.01 | shtrb | got a special service today :-( |
| 12:38.18 | oiaohm | shtrb: luck of the draw. |
| 12:38.34 | oiaohm | Not all debian mirrors are the best performing. |
| 12:38.49 | shtrb | today specifically ? or on general ? |
| 12:39.30 | linearain | jelly, i booted into livecd, lsblk doesnt seem to find my root fs :/ |
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| 12:47.50 | linearain | after booting a live image, fdisk does not show my drive where my os is installed |
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| 12:48.27 | ratrace | linearain: try reseating the sata cables, or try another sata port, there's likely more than one |
| 12:49.03 | ratrace | also please pastebin journalctl -b -k -p err |
| 12:49.05 | ratrace | !paste |
| 12:49.05 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://filebin.net or https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>. |
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| 12:49.54 | linearain | im trying a different sata port. But i cant see how it could be a problem since i do get to grub |
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| 12:50.33 | ratrace | linearain: also please paste blkid run as root |
| 12:50.39 | linearain | ok |
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| 12:58.23 | linearain | ratrace, https://paste.debian.net/1163609 |
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| 12:58.53 | linearain | lsblk shoows loop0 and sda which is the usb stick with live image |
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| 13:02.23 | linearain | oh sorry you said blkid |
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| 13:08.33 | linearain | blkid https://paste.debian.net/1163612 |
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| 13:12.04 | ratrace | linearain: well that's really weird. check BIOS that there's no some funny setting about the drives. thta's what, an ssd? hdd? also please paste journalctl -b -k | grep " sd " |
| 13:12.15 | linearain | ssd |
| 13:12.55 | linearain | so what could cause the grub to load but the root fileystem not being found? i will do that 1 minute |
| 13:13.44 | ratrace | bootloader is executed directly bios. it's possible faulty bios could do that, but then initramfs and kernel can't get correct data from bios |
| 13:13.50 | ratrace | directly *from bios |
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| 13:14.42 | linearain | i used to boot from hdd on this same mobo just fine, even once installed very same debian like the one on the ssd |
| 13:14.52 | ratrace | "Gave up waiting for root filesystem device" is kernel/initramfs issue, way after grub's done its work |
| 13:15.27 | linearain | ratrace, so does that mean my ssd is not damaged at least? |
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| 13:15.38 | ratrace | linearain: no idea |
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| 13:17.07 | ratrace | since bootloader code is started, I'd assume the ssd is functional enough to allow /boot be found and kernel+initramfs loaded. by that logic, even if ssd is faulty, it should at least register as a blokc device, or maybe not if it's a cascade of issues. |
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| 13:20.11 | linearain | https://paste.debian.net/1163613 |
| 13:21.51 | ratrace | linearain: well whatever the cause, the kernel isn't registering your ssd at all, assuming sda is not it. so to be 100% sure, that's a sata ssd, not nvme? |
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| 14:54.26 | GrayGhost | i deleted and reinstall the partition EFi to make it larger and now debian will not boot to Gnome |
| 14:54.59 | GrayGhost | because it errors with a message cat find uuid of the old EFI partition |
| 14:55.13 | GrayGhost | cat = Can't |
| 14:55.49 | GrayGhost | is that old uuid save in fstab ? |
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| 15:00.35 | tomreyn | GrayGhost: the old uuid is probably present in fstab, as well as in the initrd, and has changed when you resized the efi system partition. |
| 15:00.52 | tomreyn | (i mean replaced rather than resized.) |
| 15:01.40 | GrayGhost | tomreyn: so I need to change it in both places ? |
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| 15:01.49 | tomreyn | yes |
| 15:02.01 | tomreyn | first of all, find out which partition contains your efi system partition (it may well be /dev/sda1). |
| 15:02.45 | GrayGhost | I have the new uuid ... so I will just change it in the two places |
| 15:02.59 | tomreyn | the run blkid against it, and copy this UUID to the respective line in fstab, replacing the old one. then run update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -u |
| 15:03.34 | tomreyn | okay you can skip blkid if you have the new uuid already |
| 15:04.18 | GrayGhost | whare is initrd file located ? |
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| 15:06.52 | tomreyn | GrayGhost: it is generated by the command i provided, then stored in /boot/ |
| 15:07.31 | jhutchins | GrayGhost: It is not directly editable. |
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| 15:09.19 | GrayGhost | tomreyn: do I need to be running the debian os to run the update command , or can I do it from a different linux os |
| 15:09.48 | GrayGhost | I can boot to mint now ... I cant get to debian |
| 15:11.03 | tomreyn | GrayGhost: you should either run it from the system if it still boots and mounts file systems (what you said so far sounded like it does), or use a similar linux system, then chroot mount into the existing installation and run it then. |
| 15:11.19 | tomreyn | the latter is a more difficult. |
| 15:11.57 | GrayGhost | the debian will boot to a repair promppt |
| 15:12.03 | jhutchins | The general process to do the chroot is here: |
| 15:12.09 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 15:12.10 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 15:12.39 | jhutchins | Obviously, you're not reinstalling grub, but that will get you a chroot you can work with. |
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| 15:13.42 | GrayGhost | thanks for the help |
| 15:14.01 | tomreyn | i'd do it from the recovery menu / root prompt it boots to now |
| 15:14.28 | tomreyn | it's a lot easier and less can go wrong |
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| 15:16.03 | GrayGhost | so at the recovery prompt : update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -u |
| 15:16.43 | GrayGhost | inserting my uname ? |
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| 15:22.31 | os_ | GrayGohst, it will automatically subsituted by your linux version |
| 15:22.44 | os_ | he went away |
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| 15:25.53 | jelly | linearain, that's weird, is the current montherboard perhaps a very new model or a very old model (10+ years?) |
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| 15:26.33 | jelly | linearain, care to pastebin the output of "lspci -nn" to see what kind of ATA controller you might have |
| 15:28.02 | GrayGhost | it booted to debian with just the change to fstab ... so I should run the update command ? |
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| 15:32.16 | GrayGhost | mhc@debian:~$ update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -u |
| 15:32.16 | GrayGhost | bash: update-initramfs: command not found |
| 15:32.17 | GrayGhost | mhc@debian:~$ |
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| 15:40.03 | tomreyn | oops, missed |
| 15:40.19 | linearain | jelly, the old motherboard is intel d865perl, 32-bit only cpu with hyperthreaing so the kernel is SMP, the new one is intel d201gly2 with SiS chipset |
| 15:40.37 | linearain | old one is 2003~, newer one is 2007~ |
| 15:41.01 | linearain | d201gly2 has a single core 64-bit capable cpu but the os is obviously 32-bit |
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| 15:42.31 | linearain | from what i googled these things i mentioned, going from 32-bit to 64-bit and from smp to no smp caused similar disk discovery issues |
| 15:43.23 | linearain | im sure os reinstall would fix all this but im not willing to reinstall it right now |
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| 15:57.14 | cybrNaut | i can't unzip this file from Roku: https://github.com/rokudev/samples/blob/master/ux%20components/lists%20and%20grids/Simple_Grid_with_Details_and_Video.zip |
| 15:57.35 | GrayGhost | I got debian to boot finaly ... but it is very long boot time |
| 15:57.39 | cybrNaut | is there an alternate zip tool that uses a different lib than the standard zip tool? |
| 15:59.58 | shtrb | cybrNaut, 7z ? |
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| 16:03.00 | cybrNaut | shtrb: thanks for the tip.. i'll try that next, but it appears my problem is that the link is actually html |
| 16:03.41 | shtrb | cybrNaut, that could also damage zip files :D |
| 16:05.14 | cybrNaut | yup.. it was a misleading link.. I trusted the extension and used wget. After visiting the "zip" webpage the real zip was therein. |
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| 16:23.22 | oxek | welcome to modern internet, where URLs are meaningless |
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| 16:24.08 | GrayGhost | how do I diagnose a long boot time ? |
| 16:24.46 | oxek | systemd-analyze; systemd-analyze blame |
| 16:29.06 | GrayGhost | https://pastebin.com/TCZABdTn |
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| 16:31.54 | oxek | under 1 min? Don't worry about it. |
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| 16:33.40 | GrayGhost | this is from systemd-analyze: Startup finished in 6.170s (firmware) + 3.800s (loader) + 34.855s (kernel) + 3min 743ms (userspace) = 3min 45.569s |
| 16:34.20 | GrayGhost | allmost 4 min |
| 16:34.54 | lupulo | GrayGhost you could prepare a coffee while booting |
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| 16:35.17 | GrayGhost | lol .. I did that .. it did not help any |
| 16:36.39 | GrayGhost | breakfast blend with a little cream :) |
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| 16:41.38 | somiaj | GrayGhost: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 16:47.29 | yann-kaelig | Hi. I have installed the quota package, configured /etc/default/quota but when I execute rpcinfo -p I do not see rquotad. Any ide what I missed ? |
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| 16:47.49 | GrayGhost | buster 10 gnome |
| 16:47.54 | Vizva | the cp command to write usb does not longer worlk? |
| 16:49.36 | somiaj | GrayGhost: Just courious, saw someone in testing having issues with plymouth, which I noticed was taking a long time. |
| 16:49.54 | somiaj | Vizva: it should, what was the exact command you ran, are you coppying an image to the device, or a file onto the file system? |
| 16:51.03 | Vizva | cp file.iso /dev/sdd ; sync |
| 16:51.31 | somiaj | what is this file.iso? that will write that file to the device directly, but not all .iso's can be written that way. |
| 16:51.34 | Vizva | a windows iso but the output was ufs |
| 16:51.45 | GrayGhost | https://termbin.com/xu4n |
| 16:51.58 | Vizva | i did before and it work , some months ago |
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| 16:52.17 | somiaj | window's .iso might not be directly, but you may have to ask in ##windows about how to best get an .iso onto a usb |
| 16:53.00 | somiaj | Vizva: anyways, that is writting the .iso directly to the usb, if the driver is useful afterwards totally depends on the .iso image used, and windows.iso are out of the scope of debian |
| 16:53.09 | GrayGhost | it was booting up in about 20 sec. ... now 4 min |
| 16:53.48 | somiaj | GrayGhost: well the first thing you linked didn't show anything to crazy, plymouth seemed to take a bit of time (though I guess I don't need some fancy boot screen so I see it as extra) |
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| 16:55.50 | somiaj | GrayGhost: and this is the time to get to the graphical login screen, or are you including the time to log into gnome from the display manager in this? |
| 16:55.54 | yann-kaelig | really weird, journactl -u quotarpc.service output the service succeeded but systemctl status quotarpc show Active: inactive (dead) |
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| 16:57.14 | GrayGhost | somiaj, that is just to the login screen |
| 16:57.43 | somiaj | GrayGhost: well maybe try this, change from graphical.target to multi-user.target and see if you have the same issue |
| 16:57.44 | GrayGhost | from there it is very quick |
| 16:58.30 | GrayGhost | somiaj, how would i do that ? |
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| 17:03.41 | lupulo | GrayGhost your graphical login is xdm? |
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| 17:05.22 | Vizva | thx |
| 17:05.56 | GrayGhost | Gnome |
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| 17:09.52 | lupulo | GrayGhost i ask about display manager |
| 17:09.57 | somiaj | GrayGhost: there are two basic ways, one is you can hit e during boot time and add the option 'systemd.unit=multi-user.target' to boot using that once |
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| 17:10.20 | somiaj | GrayGhost: the other is run 'systemctl set-default multi-user.target' |
| 17:10.30 | somiaj | lupulo: most likely they are running gdm3 if using gnome. |
| 17:11.14 | somiaj | GrayGhost: this will disable boot into a graphical system, and if this is fast, the issue is loading gdm |
| 17:13.42 | lupulo | GrayGhost https://wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment#Display_Managers |
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| 17:16.35 | gribouille | hi again |
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| 17:17.07 | gribouille | I did a SMART test with smartctl -d ata -t long /dev/sdb ; how can I get the result? |
| 17:17.15 | dw1 | smartctl -a /dev/sdb |
| 17:17.24 | dw1 | where would i place this systemd .service file to enable it? https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-systemd-maintainers/2014-October/004088.html |
| 17:17.42 | dw1 | i want to unmount my encrypted home dir on logout |
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| 17:18.21 | somiaj | dw1: local unit files go in /etc/systemd/system/ |
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| 17:20.49 | gribouille | how can I interpret the SMART test résults? |
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| 17:21.06 | dw1 | #1 is the last test result |
| 17:21.28 | gribouille | I have # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 52800 |
| 17:21.41 | dw1 | good |
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| 17:22.05 | gribouille | dw1, does it mean that the drive is sound? |
| 17:22.22 | dw1 | yeah |
| 17:23.26 | dw1 | and youre at 6 yeras operation time |
| 17:23.35 | dw1 | so i would keep backups.. :P |
| 17:24.12 | dw1 | just in case |
| 17:24.33 | gribouille | dw1, done |
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| 17:26.18 | gribouille | dw1, when I run smartctl -x /dev/sdb, I get the following mesage in /var/log/kern.log: ata6.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen ... |
| 17:28.42 | dw1 | actually i dont know how to interpret the results |
| 17:29.10 | dw1 | that Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds section might be the current status |
| 17:29.19 | dw1 | and on my 7 year old drive... theyre all pretty bad |
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| 17:29.53 | dw1 | i just ran a test earlier today |
| 17:29.56 | gribouille | dw1, what results? the SMART results or the kernel mesage? |
| 17:30.11 | dw1 | for the first time in a long time |
| 17:30.37 | dw1 | all mine say Pre-fail, Old-age etc |
| 17:30.42 | dw1 | not optimal prob :p |
| 17:31.16 | dw1 | also it runs like crap |
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| 17:32.01 | gribouille | dw1, does it say "Completed without error" too? |
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| 17:32.06 | dw1 | yes |
| 17:32.29 | gribouille | does it says that your drive is good or not? |
| 17:32.49 | dw1 | pre-fail isnt encouraging |
| 17:33.17 | dw1 | https://serverfault.com/a/745656 |
| 17:33.52 | dw1 | guess i should replace it :/ |
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| 17:35.09 | dw1 | though my reallocated is actually 0 |
| 17:35.22 | gribouille | I have Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 2 |
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| 17:36.09 | dw1 | that guy claims "Anything other than a zero raw value is a potential problem" |
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| 17:37.26 | dw1 | should prob find a better explanation of each of those results |
| 17:37.26 | gribouille | is possible to test several disks at the same time? |
| 17:37.39 | dw1 | i woudl think so since the tests are run by the disks themselves |
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| 17:43.17 | gribouille | In a test result, I have 23 for LifeTime(hours) |
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| 17:46.46 | bolt | reallocated sectors used to be an issue |
| 17:46.53 | bolt | now some disks seem to do it even when they're healthy |
| 17:48.42 | bolt | That said, it's something that worries me, so i grab disks like the "ironwolf pro" series that don't do that shit. They still use "Raw_Read_Error_Rate" as a random number generator, however, which also annoys me. Manual reading of SMART values is going out the window. |
| 17:48.57 | bolt | In general, if short and long tests succeed, your drives are likely fine. |
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| 17:57.24 | NetTerminalGene | ,v linux |
| 17:57.25 | judd | No package named 'linux' was found in amd64. |
| 17:58.15 | sponix | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 17:58.16 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u7; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u11; stretch-backports: 4.19+105+deb10u4~bpo9+1; buster: 4.19+105+deb10u5; buster-backports: 5.7.10-1~bpo10+1; bullseye: 5.8.7-1; sid: 5.8.7-1; experimental: 5.9~rc4-1~exp1 |
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| 22:57.02 | randombit | has anyone any suggestion why might be happening that every time i click on a menu or such (with system sounds - so with click sound) the speakers make this loud """blob""" sound... i got this when the system boots, yet it started to happening even during normal usage... anyone? |
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| 23:01.20 | abrotman | Do other sounds work properly? Perhaps a missing sound file? |
| 23:03.25 | aaro | randombit: try disabling sound power save |
| 23:03.46 | randombit | sound works, and even that "event" sound works. only the speaker makes this irritating ""blob"" sound-thing... it happens during boot, and even with menu-clicking. |
| 23:04.07 | randombit | sound power save? i dont know that one |
| 23:05.19 | aaro | randombit: do you have this file /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save ? |
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| 23:06.20 | randombit | yes! wow |
| 23:06.35 | randombit | what does it do? |
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| 23:07.29 | aaro | randombit: type this command as root (or sudo) -> echo 0 > /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save |
| 23:07.53 | aaro | and see if the clicks dissapear |
| 23:08.38 | randombit | or i just edit the file :) gotta check |
| 23:10.15 | aaro | you just need that file to contain "0" to disable power saving |
| 23:15.14 | randombit | well i had it, and it was 1 |
| 23:15.17 | randombit | so now 0 |
| 23:15.23 | randombit | and it worked! |
| 23:15.26 | randombit | thankyou |
| 23:15.47 | randombit | whats the point of this "sound"powersave stuff |
| 23:15.58 | randombit | ? |
| 23:16.24 | aaro | randombit: it will revert after reboot. look at this to make it permanent https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/565886/how-to-disable-the-power-saving-for-snd-hda-codec-realtek |
| 23:21.12 | randombit | ah okey. thankyou |
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| 23:35.53 | somiaj | randombit: laptops and battery life means, so power save modes are in most hardware these days. |
| 23:36.00 | somiaj | at least that is put into laptops |
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| 23:46.47 | randombit | well im on pc... so it doesnt affect me. i was really annoyed because it was not happening before. idk when it changed, but while i was "ok" with the startup ""blobbing"" when the menu-clicking started to do it... idk why i didnt ask earlier :D |
| 23:48.29 | randombit | especially because i use subwoofer too.. and with that it _is_ _really_ annoying. |
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