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| 06:15.50 | unixbsd | Hello |
| 06:17.00 | alex11 | hi |
| 06:17.01 | unixbsd | I would like to replace Microsoft Outlook with MS-Exchange Calendar + Inbox with an opesource software. I see that there is just nothing. There is no MS-Exchange in any email software: thunderbird the driver is buggy, ultra buggy, kmail no exchange and claw, just imap |
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| 06:23.19 | nkuttler | unixbsd: if you connect to a ms backend.. just use their frontend as well.. |
| 06:23.42 | unixbsd | what do you mean? I am not following |
| 06:24.01 | unixbsd | which frontend, microsoft outlook? |
| 06:24.04 | unixbsd | I have debian |
| 06:24.07 | unixbsd | over wine? |
| 06:25.25 | nkuttler | i meant on windows, actually. exchange is a moving target, open source clients will always lag behind if anybody even works on them |
| 06:26.00 | unixbsd | so there is no solution. BUY WINDOWS? -no? |
| 06:26.01 | nkuttler | and if you *need* exchange support.. personally i'd ask the person who requires it from me to provide me the licenses etc |
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| 06:26.48 | unixbsd | I need to read my email under linux as well. I cannot buy all the time new licensess for windows and office. it is too much money |
| 06:27.06 | nkuttler | i feel you. but why do you have mail in exchange at all? |
| 06:28.06 | unixbsd | ms exchange or nothing. well no choice as most corporate. many corporate today have just MS. So why we have under linux no alternative to clients? we must offer sthg. look libreoffice for instance. |
| 06:28.45 | nkuttler | open source mustn't do anything. we can be happy and just not use ms server products |
| 06:28.54 | nkuttler | but, anyway, i can't help you :) |
| 06:29.47 | nkuttler | fwiw, i run the windows evalutation version in a vm and have outlook there.. need to reinstall every nine months or so i think |
| 06:29.59 | unixbsd | ah yeah, 90pct of pcs are windows. so it would be cool way to kick MS OFFICE SUITE., to allo company use Linux. would be first thing to do. |
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| 06:30.33 | unixbsd | but you paid licences? |
| 06:30.39 | nkuttler | no |
| 06:30.49 | unixbsd | how do you do that? |
| 06:30.50 | nkuttler | i could have a tax refund anyway, but still don't |
| 06:31.14 | nkuttler | you can download ms windows with an evaluation license, valid three months, and it can be renewed three times i think |
| 06:31.19 | unixbsd | I am interested... I need to go, in few minutes... can we talk later? |
| 06:31.21 | nkuttler | it's free as in beer |
| 06:31.34 | nkuttler | i'm leaving in a few minutes |
| 06:31.53 | unixbsd | I need to write down your username, I will contact you later. I need to go soon. |
| 06:31.59 | unixbsd | thank you very much |
| 06:32.05 | nkuttler | yw |
| 06:34.15 | careta | does anyone know how to remove "banding" from Evolution's mail list view? |
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| 06:35.03 | careta | by "banding" I mean this: https://i.postimg.cc/qMq1DGGS/image.png |
| 06:35.11 | careta | it's makes it much harder to read |
| 06:35.22 | Posterdati | hi |
| 06:35.23 | careta | I know it's related to the theme, but seems to happen with all dark themes |
| 06:35.40 | careta | thunderbird has a style sheet of sorts that allows to modify these things |
| 06:35.46 | careta | does evolution have anything similar? |
| 06:36.32 | Posterdati | please help, is anyone experiencing kde panel graphic disruption/segfaults in 10? Thanks! |
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| 07:04.26 | unixbsd | anyone here capaable to use ms exchange under debian? |
| 07:04.36 | unixbsd | (email + calendar) |
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| 07:05.28 | unixbsd | no no, thunderbird and evolution have a little buggy, outdated plugin, that nothing works on it. |
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| 07:14.01 | Fox | la |
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| 07:20.48 | jelly | unixbsd, OWA is the obvious fallback |
| 07:21.25 | jelly | email can work with imap; contacts and calendar less so |
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| 07:22.26 | Guest61681 | Hi everyone |
| 07:22.58 | foxdie99 | HEy there |
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| 08:54.38 | srged | when quitting GIMP, how do I remove being asked "save or discharge" ? |
| 08:55.15 | ksk | Why would you want that? :o |
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| 08:55.42 | ratrace | srged: looked through Edit -> Preferences if there's a checkbox for that? |
| 08:55.59 | Haohmaru | ksk there can be a legit usecase, but i doubt it'd have such an option |
| 08:56.26 | Haohmaru | i often paint stuff in M$Paint/KolourPaint and don't save it |
| 09:00.51 | Haohmaru | srged just quickly press alt+d when you see it |
| 09:01.14 | Haohmaru | (assuming you wanna discard) |
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| 09:11.32 | ratrace | (Ctrl+D) |
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| 09:11.44 | shtrb | How do I know If my laptop is on no charge mode when connected on AC , and not charging ? (status on my laptop is /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/uevent:3:POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Unknown) |
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| 09:13.10 | Haohmaru | shtrb wouldn't there be some icon on the panel? |
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| 09:15.39 | shtrb | I think that there is a bug in plasma that does not change a thing |
| 09:16.54 | genr8_ | that /sys entry looks like its just not able to read it |
| 09:17.35 | genr8_ | the laptop could be proprietary and need a bug fix that it doesnt have |
| 09:17.50 | shtrb | In old laptops I had either charging or discharging now with new laptop there is the new mode on AC but either charging or not |
| 09:18.02 | shtrb | thanks genr8 |
| 09:19.01 | shtrb | Correction , when I disconnect the power it does say discharging |
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| 12:07.00 | dka | Hello, I want to upgrade my buster debian kernel to 5.8, I did apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade and saw that it downloaded and installed it |
| 12:07.15 | dka | however, when I reboot my laptop, uname -a shows: Linux dka 5.7.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.7.10-1~bpo10+1 (2020-07-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 12:07.18 | dka | so I am still outdated |
| 12:07.30 | dka | I tried to update grub, but I don't see that kernel |
| 12:07.58 | dka | this is the relevant output: http://paste.debian.net/1167422/ |
| 12:09.06 | dka | I am now trying to apt install linux-image-5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, hoping this is the right one |
| 12:09.22 | jelly | dka, there's no linux-image-5.8something in that list |
| 12:09.46 | dka | I only got the headers |
| 12:09.58 | dka | strange that it didn't upgrade the kernel with dist-upgrade, but upgraded the headers |
| 12:10.03 | jelly | dka, if you want to track the kernek from buster-backports, install linux-image-amd64 from buster-backports |
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| 12:10.12 | dka | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (x86_64) |
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| 12:11.06 | jelly | for which dkms module |
| 12:11.33 | jelly | see if there's a backport for that as well, or uninstall if you don't need it any more |
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| 12:17.28 | dka | I am not sure what's the DKMS module |
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| 12:17.42 | dka | What should I uninstall if I don't need it? |
| 12:18.13 | anoncon | dont go picking things off like that |
| 12:18.38 | anoncon | that is a main component DKMS dynamic kernel module support |
| 12:20.03 | dka | sorry? |
| 12:20.09 | dka | I just reboot and : Linux dka 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.8.10-1~bpo10+1 (2020-09-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 12:20.17 | anoncon | if it works i wouldn't mess with it tbh |
| 12:22.14 | anoncon | oh i see youre trying to upgrade kernel im guessing its very manual process vs some other distros |
| 12:24.30 | anoncon | yeah i think its showing the image is not there in that main directory maybe try upgrade from scratch all over |
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| 12:25.26 | dka | chrome is working badly now =/ |
| 12:25.38 | anoncon | ruh roh probably a driver issue |
| 12:26.41 | anoncon | lol i booted the live usb its still on 4.19 |
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| 12:27.11 | anoncon | i did find a video check it |
| 12:27.20 | anoncon | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fYqi-Pxp5w |
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| 12:28.42 | dka | How can I downgrade to 5.7 |
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| 12:28.46 | dka | and reinstall 5.8 properly? |
| 12:29.05 | anoncon | there is typically a kernel select in the grub menu have to reboot |
| 12:29.16 | dka | this is to switch not to uninstall/reinstall |
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| 12:31.50 | dka | I reboot in 5.7 and run sudo apt-get remove linux-image-5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
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| 12:31.56 | dka | how can I reinstall 5.8 properly? |
| 12:32.05 | anoncon | yes check that video |
| 12:32.29 | anoncon | it has to build all the modules for each kernel install |
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| 12:33.14 | dka | linux-image-amd64 is already the newest version (4.19+105+deb10u6). |
| 12:33.26 | dka | ok |
| 12:33.28 | anoncon | yes the base image |
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| 12:34.56 | TuxCrazy | Hi.. |
| 12:35.08 | TuxCrazy | is this package available for debian? https://appcenter.elementary.io/com.github.alainm23.planner/ |
| 12:35.10 | anoncon | hello bro |
| 12:35.30 | TuxCrazy | anoncon, hello, how are you? |
| 12:35.31 | anoncon | check the package manager first |
| 12:35.57 | anoncon | im actually not on debian rn but checking it out |
| 12:36.18 | TuxCrazy | ok |
| 12:36.19 | n4dir | If it is a project mannaging thing, then it seems to be available |
| 12:36.20 | dka | anoncon, the video didn't help, I have not the same output |
| 12:36.45 | anoncon | i think they edited the mirror list or something did you check |
| 12:36.50 | TuxCrazy | can that package be made available on debian? as a deb package? |
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| 12:36.58 | dka | This is the output of sudo apt install linux-image-5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 linux-headers-5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 : http://paste.debian.net/1167428/ |
| 12:37.06 | anoncon | https://packages.debian.org/buster/planner |
| 12:37.11 | dka | They added backports, I do use backports already |
| 12:37.28 | anoncon | ok |
| 12:37.39 | dka | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (x86_64) , and a lot of missing firmware |
| 12:37.39 | TuxCrazy | where is it available? |
| 12:37.54 | dka | I did exactly how he did, but I still got those errors |
| 12:38.02 | anoncon | in synaptic i beleive if you want to do gui |
| 12:38.02 | dka | there's a fix for my soundcard in this 5.8 |
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| 12:38.11 | TuxCrazy | is this the same application that is available on elementary os? |
| 12:38.14 | TuxCrazy | https://packages.debian.org/buster/planner |
| 12:38.25 | anoncon | probably not exactly but its the one that works on debian |
| 12:38.43 | EmptyMessage | it doesn't look to be the same, see the screenshot on the right |
| 12:38.44 | anoncon | the module may need patching of some kind |
| 12:39.13 | EmptyMessage | TuxCrazy: did you figure out the permissions issue? |
| 12:39.15 | anoncon | yeah it has a different look |
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| 12:39.36 | anoncon | i think a big part is the ElementaryOS theming |
| 12:39.37 | n4dir | read something like: "redesign of UI" at the linked webpage |
| 12:39.52 | TuxCrazy | EmptyMessage, I changed it to something else. |
| 12:40.05 | TuxCrazy | changed from 777 to something else. |
| 12:41.06 | dka | I have tried to install acpi-call-dkms=acpi-call-dkms but it fail |
| 12:41.10 | TuxCrazy | anoncon, I think, it is a different application. |
| 12:41.11 | anoncon | yeah check on ACPI in 5.8 there may be a bug |
| 12:41.17 | anoncon | yeah its different |
| 12:41.25 | anoncon | maybe there is a source you can build it |
| 12:41.27 | dka | http://paste.debian.net/1167429/ |
| 12:41.31 | dka | is it too early to upgrade to 5.8? |
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| 12:41.43 | TuxCrazy | but, flatpack for that application that is available on elementary is available. |
| 12:42.10 | anoncon | many people having issue with 5.8 |
| 12:42.20 | TuxCrazy | it would be nice if that package is made available as a deb file. |
| 12:42.31 | Haohmaru | TuxCrazy it's not the same, the one in debian is from gnome, it seems |
| 12:42.34 | TuxCrazy | that should be added to debian repos. |
| 12:42.35 | Haohmaru | different authors |
| 12:42.39 | anoncon | well its probably not a deb app to begin with? |
| 12:42.42 | dka | Downgrading failed also |
| 12:42.53 | TuxCrazy | Haohmaru, yes. It is a different package. |
| 12:42.54 | dka | http://paste.debian.net/1167430/ |
| 12:43.25 | Haohmaru | the webpage of that thing has like "get it from the app center" which is an elementaryOS thing, no info about any other distributions |
| 12:43.28 | TuxCrazy | flatpacks and snaps consume huge space. |
| 12:43.38 | Haohmaru | https://planner-todo.web.app/ |
| 12:43.52 | TuxCrazy | Haohmaru, it is available as a flatpack. |
| 12:44.00 | Haohmaru | no idea what that is |
| 12:44.32 | Haohmaru | is it even opensource? |
| 12:44.43 | anoncon | flatpck may be the answer rn |
| 12:44.56 | TuxCrazy | Haohmaru, https://flatpak.org/ |
| 12:45.10 | TuxCrazy | it is flatpak |
| 12:45.22 | dka | did I destroy my system? |
| 12:45.27 | TuxCrazy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatpak |
| 12:45.36 | anoncon | you might be able to salvage it man |
| 12:45.54 | anoncon | is 4.19 still there reboot into it |
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| 12:49.01 | Haohmaru | okay, it's on gith0b, written in some weird language |
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| 12:56.53 | TuxCrazy | which beginner friendly distro is nearest to Debian? |
| 12:57.03 | Haohmaru | aww noes |
| 12:57.23 | TuxCrazy | Haohmaru, is that a distro? |
| 12:57.28 | Haohmaru | no |
| 12:57.36 | TuxCrazy | ok |
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| 13:00.17 | Haohmaru | aww, so this elementary OS thing has to do with Vala, which is some weird language that spews out C code |
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| 13:01.15 | Haohmaru | TuxCrazy why not just.. debian? |
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| 13:01.39 | TuxCrazy | Haohmaru, ok |
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| 13:16.27 | jelly | dka, "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (x86_64)" # there was more than just that in the output |
| 13:16.54 | Haohmaru | but he swept it under the rug |
| 13:17.29 | jelly | oh, you already figuresd out which dkms-based module was problematic |
| 13:17.49 | jelly | dka, does acpi-call do anything useful for your setup? |
| 13:19.05 | blurkis | Haohmaru: its like running Ubuntu. You get a bad version of debian. Not saying Ubuntu is bad in it self, but its a bad version of debian. The same goes for elementary os. :) Everytime something breaks, you get to keep the parts, |
| 13:19.37 | Haohmaru | wikipedia says it's based on crapbuntu |
| 13:19.49 | Haohmaru | that's enough information already ;P~ |
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| 13:22.46 | jelly | can we do without "crapbuntu" possibly |
| 13:23.12 | psusi | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/ip.... wtf? |
| 13:23.44 | jelly | psusi, dpkg -S /bin/ip |
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| 13:24.19 | psusi | ahh... ugh |
| 13:24.58 | psusi | ahh, right... iproute2... still not used to using this isntead of ifconfig |
| 13:25.08 | Haohmaru | jelly i'll try :/ |
| 13:25.17 | jelly | psusi, it's only been 19 years! |
| 13:25.35 | psusi | what? it's been like 3? |
| 13:26.30 | jelly | ip command appeared with 2.4 kernel and deprecated ifconfig then |
| 13:26.42 | jelly | took a while for Debian to notice |
| 13:27.16 | psusi | jesus |
| 13:28.22 | another | jelly: inital commit for iproute2 was in 2004 |
| 13:29.07 | another | and the tags have 2.6 in them |
| 13:29.48 | psusi | then again I still like to play with the old ext2 defrag program that was abandoned in the late '90s and I think debian finally removed it in 2010 or so |
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| 13:50.12 | Hallcyon | hmmm.... "The repository 'https://ftp.au.debian.org/debian buster Release' does not have a Release file." |
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| 14:01.29 | wuffi600 | waves hello! |
| 14:01.35 | wuffi600 | Hi folks. |
| 14:02.00 | zeroed | waves to wuffi600 |
| 14:04.39 | Haohmaru | and now due to the butterfly effect, a big wave in the ocean is hitting a certain beach |
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| 14:08.40 | dex1983 | hi |
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| 14:30.56 | jelly | another, perhaps pre-git history isn't imported properly? ISTR it being older |
| 14:35.02 | jelly | another, a reference from 2002 https://lwn.net/Articles/749/ |
| 14:36.24 | jelly | dpkg, factinfo iproute |
| 14:36.25 | dpkg | iproute -- last modified at Fri Dec 9 19:42:23 2005 by Supaplex!n=supaplex@shell.aros.net; it has been requested 42 times, last by jelly, 18s ago. |
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| 14:48.00 | dex1983 | how I can create a script which does command after command? with some programs the && does not work for me how I could solve that :-( |
| 14:48.01 | dex1983 | ? |
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| 14:55.42 | astronavt | dex1983, && doesn't work when the previous command exits with a non-0 exit status |
| 14:55.48 | astronavt | which is usually a sign that the command failed |
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| 14:55.59 | astronavt | if you provide your script here maybe someone can help you fix it |
| 14:56.26 | astronavt | can upload to paste.debian.net/ |
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| 14:59.02 | compufreak | I noticed on Debian the bash prompt appears to be set twice with the first one wrapped in characters to prevent it from printing. Why is it done like this? `\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$` |
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| 14:59.17 | greycat | terminal title bar |
| 15:07.21 | jelly | is that default? |
| 15:08.37 | greycat | yeah, check /etc/skel/.bashrc |
| 15:09.34 | jelly | ah, # If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir |
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| 15:22.35 | astronavt | do the debian maintainers write their own X startup files/scripts like /etc/X11/startx, or are these provided by upstream? |
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| 15:23.41 | nkuttler | astronavt: iirc you can usually download the source package and look for diffs in the debian files |
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| 15:23.57 | nkuttler | not sure about huge packages like xorg though |
| 15:24.45 | astronavt | apt-file search Xsession |
| 15:24.57 | astronavt | that one at least is from x11-common |
| 15:24.59 | astronavt | apt-file is really handy |
| 15:26.07 | greycat | the source packages are typically also available on the web in extracted form, too |
| 15:26.11 | jhutchins | astronavt: It's a mix. Distros often customize start-up scripts to fit in their environment. |
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| 15:26.28 | greycat | https://sources.debian.org/src/xorg/ |
| 15:27.15 | astronavt | is that the same as https://salsa.debian.org/xorg-team/xorg greycat ? |
| 15:27.36 | greycat | clicks it and compares |
| 15:27.41 | astronavt | it looks like there is only 1 patch in the link you sent |
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| 15:27.46 | astronavt | so presumably the rest is all from upstream? |
| 15:27.46 | jim | is there something wrong with cdimage.debian.org at the moment? |
| 15:28.00 | greycat | I'm... not seeing a version number on the salsa one, so that must be "unstable only" or something |
| 15:28.45 | astronavt | hm |
| 15:29.03 | greycat | anyway, you can see Xsession in the debian/local/ directory on the source thingy, so it's obviously provided by Debian, not by X.Org |
| 15:29.14 | astronavt | right |
| 15:29.19 | astronavt | interesting |
| 15:30.37 | astronavt | now im really curious to compare x startup files across distros |
| 15:30.52 | astronavt | ive been gradually mapping out all of debian's interlocking config and startup files |
| 15:31.12 | astronavt | because i couldnt find any coherent documentation on it |
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| 15:32.08 | astronavt | so far i have /usr/bin/startx -> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -> /etc/X11/Xsession -> bunch of individual scripts |
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| 15:35.33 | CrystalMath | so let's say i'm backporting a package to buster |
| 15:35.40 | CrystalMath | and it says it wants debhelper-compat = 13 |
| 15:36.01 | CrystalMath | should i try to somehow, idk, backport it to debhelper-compat 12? |
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| 15:38.17 | greycat | astronavt: see also https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession and https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables but you're right, there isn't any format complete documentation |
| 15:38.26 | greycat | formal* |
| 15:38.44 | astronavt | i've read through the former but not the latter, thanks |
| 15:38.59 | astronavt | you think once i've mapped all this out, i should try to post it in the wiki? |
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| 15:39.46 | astronavt | my concern is that things like this are really easy to keep up-to-date with incremental changes, but if someone forgets about it and lets it lapse a year, then updating it becomes a huge chore and it goes obsolete |
| 15:39.57 | astronavt | then someone else like me would have to come along and do it all over again |
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| 15:44.56 | greycat | Actual *changes* to one of the existing paradigms are quite rare, really. The problem is when a new paradigm is thrown onto the heap -- like systemd. |
| 15:45.19 | greycat | Then you've got docs covering the old paradigm, and docs covering the new paradigm, and they contradict each other in places... |
| 15:45.26 | CrystalMath | so what i did |
| 15:45.33 | CrystalMath | was just changed the debhelper-compat to = 12 |
| 15:45.37 | CrystalMath | in debian/control |
| 15:45.38 | CrystalMath | it worked :) |
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| 15:50.09 | jim | hi, got a guy on ##linux who wants to install linux on his arm64 machine with a wireless network interface, so ideally I'm looking for an unofficial image (that is, with firmware) for that machine. problem is, I can't find such an image... so, either one is hiding somewhere, or we get an official 10.6 image, and transfer firmware packages on a usb stick... is there an image I'm not finding, or do I need to go with the latter solution? |
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| 15:51.50 | BlakesSeven | Good morning. I need help. I have a striped set of disks. I recently added SSD cache. Yesterday one of the hard disks could not be detected until I rebooted. The drive looks intact. SMART is not reporting a problem. The partition is still there. However, the LV is not present in /dev/<VG>/ so I can't mount it. lvdisplay shows the status is "NOT available". pvs shows the volume is missing. fdisk shows the volume is present and the partition is |
| 15:51.50 | BlakesSeven | intact. Tried to remove the cache from the lv and received "Check of pool/media/cachepool failed (status: 2). Manual repair required!". And this is where I'm stuck. Any sage suggestions? |
| 15:51.50 | BlakesSeven | My troubleshooting so far is here https://pastebin.com/Kiua54dL |
| 15:57.43 | jim | he says he's tried debian-10.6.0-arm64-xfce-CD-1.iso, but it wouldn't even start grub |
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| 16:04.59 | hmuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.38 | hmuller | it completes the install on my machine, but unfortunately it doesn't boot using that method |
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| 16:09.46 | jim | maybe we need an improved version of grub specifically targeted at the arm64 arch |
| 16:10.05 | jim | thanks for responding |
| 16:11.01 | hmuller | jim: those images don't use grub, so I don't really know how they recover from a bad kernel upgrade |
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| 16:15.28 | hmuller | jim: you might get better input from #debian-boot over at https://www.oftc.net/ |
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| 16:18.07 | jim | ok, I'm on my way there now |
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| 16:20.44 | Hallcyon | Can anyone see anything wrong with my service file: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1167469 |
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| 16:22.24 | AndreasLutro | Hallcyon: helps if you provide whatever errors you're getting, but I don't think you can use $HOME there, try %h |
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| 16:26.44 | hmuller | Hallcyon: just to add onto AndreasLutro's response, the systemd.unit manpage is also a good resource |
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| 16:34.38 | greycat | Hallcyon: is this supposed to be a --user service, or a system-wide service? Whose $HOME is it supposed to be looking at? |
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| 16:42.57 | dex1983 | ok thanks the command before exits normal I think with --help the command works but with other not astronavto |
| 16:43.03 | dex1983 | astronavt |
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| 16:43.45 | astronavt | dex1983 it's hard to say what else could be going wrong without seeing the code |
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| 16:49.23 | blurkis | is it possible to install/run pantheon desktop in debian? without it messing about with other desktops? |
| 16:50.43 | jelly | DEs usually "mess" with other DEs a bit |
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| 16:53.25 | astronavt | the big problem will be that some default applications will change around |
| 16:53.41 | astronavt | as well as other places where two DEs might use the same config file |
| 16:53.53 | jhutchins | !pantheon |
| 16:53.58 | astronavt | ive had like 10 different DEs on the same system before, it works fine |
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| 16:54.30 | astronavt | something specifically like Pantheon might have rough edges outside the elementaryOS world |
| 16:55.37 | blurkis | I sort of remembered from somewhere that pantheon twittled a bit with upstream libraries a bit, but well, no one remembers a coward, |
| 16:56.00 | EdePopede | can i just kill rtkit-daemon just like i do with pulseaudio? |
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| 16:56.15 | dex1983 | ok here is the tool I use https://github.com/mbruel/ngPost |
| 16:56.47 | dex1983 | http://paste.debian.net/1167483/ |
| 16:57.12 | dex1983 | after executing the command the second command will not be executed |
| 16:57.21 | CrystalMath | EdePopede: why even keep that crap installed? :P |
| 16:57.34 | EdePopede | wtf do i know what it is good for |
| 16:57.44 | CrystalMath | pulseaudio is useless |
| 16:57.57 | CrystalMath | and rtkit is just a realtime kit for it |
| 16:57.58 | EdePopede | last time i cared about such things was around the time i calculated X modelines |
| 16:58.09 | CrystalMath | i use realtime stuff without rtkit |
| 16:58.13 | CrystalMath | i have jackd installed |
| 16:58.17 | EdePopede | well i had skype in the past and it needs it |
| 16:58.36 | CrystalMath | skype needs pulse? yuck |
| 16:58.50 | EdePopede | microsoft fucking up another working environment |
| 16:59.09 | astronavt | dex1983, if you do `ngPost --auto /Downloads/ --rm_posted; echo $?` what is the output? |
| 16:59.20 | EdePopede | had to stop using it anyway after they went totally nuts switching to crippled chrome |
| 17:00.40 | karlpinc | I'm trying to authenticate to a remote box running openldap/nslcd. It works just fine -- except from one particular terminal window. When I use that window, and only that window, the remote nslcd reports invalid credentials. What could possibly be different about this particular window? |
| 17:00.43 | EdePopede | and the sound system is keeping on corriding here for months already. i was used to have to kill it sometimes or try a few times to connect the speakers until it finally reacted |
| 17:00.45 | karlpinc | (I' |
| 17:00.54 | jhutchins | CrystalMath: The bad attitued and false information are not appreciated. This is not the place to rant about software you don't appreciate. |
| 17:01.01 | karlpinc | m afraid to close the window. Otherwise I won't be able to reproduce the failure.) |
| 17:02.25 | EdePopede | then it refused to switch back from the "digital" fallback totally, had to delete the config. then it started sounding interrupted in firefox first (not that i'd try to do sth sound in a browser, but twitter, ads and such crap). |
| 17:02.29 | dex1983 | astronavt '0' is the output |
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| 17:03.32 | karlpinc | It reminds me of a problem I've had when using vpnc, where one terminal window would also be unable to authenticate. |
| 17:03.46 | astronavt | then && should work in that case |
| 17:04.00 | dex1983 | yeah I do not understand why it quits :-( |
| 17:04.22 | EdePopede | now i got loged out from X like yesterday and watched some videos later, all fine, only now mpv showed the same behaviour. started PA mixer and the content is constantly flickering while it's trying to connect to the server. of course it's spamming my log like nuts (dozens of lines per SECOND). |
| 17:04.38 | karlpinc | I never tracked that problem down either. But there's seems to be something strange happening on the local (debian) side. |
| 17:04.44 | Ademan | what makes a package "essential" ? is the package marked essential in the repo, the package itself, or by your system? |
| 17:05.13 | greycat | in the repositories |
| 17:05.29 | CrystalMath | jhutchins: idk how you can call a subjective statement "false information", i was just talking to EdePopede |
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| 17:05.34 | jhutchins | greycat: Not a flag in the package. |
| 17:05.40 | astronavt | dex1983, maybe it is running but you are not getting output for some other reason |
| 17:05.51 | astronavt | or dex1983, maybe there are times when it does not return successfully and you get 1 |
| 17:05.55 | astronavt | or something else nonzero |
| 17:05.56 | jhutchins | greycat: ? |
| 17:06.01 | EdePopede | it's 4 sys files in total (user, debug, daemon, sys). and unlike in the past just killing pulse didn't help this time :/ |
| 17:06.01 | greycat | unicorn:~$ apt-cache show base-files | grep -i essential |
| 17:06.02 | greycat | Essential: yes |
| 17:06.05 | dex1983 | ah ok which I do not see? |
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| 17:06.26 | greycat | jhutchins: packages, repositories, whatever you want to call it. The maintainer put it there. |
| 17:06.59 | jhutchins | greycat: Repo metadata seems likely. |
| 17:07.33 | greycat | Is this a question by someone who is trying to *create* a repository? If so, I will just shut up. |
| 17:07.57 | Ademan | nope, a guy debugging a failed dist-upgrade ;-) |
| 17:08.28 | dex1983 | How I could solve that instead of && |
| 17:08.31 | Ademan | frantically trying to fix what he broke before he has to fly (who could have seen this coming?! lmao) |
| 17:08.31 | dex1983 | ? |
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| 17:09.24 | astronavt | dex1983, && isn't the problem here |
| 17:09.44 | astronavt | if you want `ls -l` to run even if `ngPost` fails, then use `;` instead of `&&` |
| 17:10.50 | dex1983 | ah ok so I could solve it :-) |
| 17:10.53 | dex1983 | thans |
| 17:10.54 | dex1983 | thanks |
| 17:11.16 | dex1983 | so with ; it is not important if 0 or not? |
| 17:11.22 | karlpinc | Ademan: Apparently the "archive maintainers". 5.7. Specifying the package section, subsection and priority https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#specifying-the-package-section-subsection-and-priority |
| 17:11.27 | dex1983 | it will run the next command? |
| 17:11.56 | astronavt | dex1983, correct |
| 17:12.00 | dex1983 | ok thanks |
| 17:12.41 | Ademan | karlpinc: thanks! |
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| 17:16.32 | EdePopede | @ pulse: start a video, turn off volume (HARDWARE!), kill the process, del the config dir, replug the speakers, turn on volume, turn off & replug if silence as needed |
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| 17:17.38 | EdePopede | just to have firefox crash the 2nd time in maybe 30 minutes while it does basically nothing, and after restart returning to screen to find out that it just messed up its keys another time for no reason. |
| 17:17.40 | CrystalMath | EdePopede: perhaps run programs that need software you don't like in containers? |
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| 17:17.59 | EdePopede | what containers? |
| 17:18.01 | CrystalMath | that's what i'd do |
| 17:18.14 | EdePopede | with 2GB, sure |
| 17:18.17 | CrystalMath | like, you can create a container like a chroot with debootstrap |
| 17:18.25 | CrystalMath | well it just takes disk space, not RAM |
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| 17:18.55 | EdePopede | i have to wait enough already with firefox provoking swapping after it runs like half an hour |
| 17:19.03 | CrystalMath | i actually did that to give pulseaudio another chance, but it was just crackling again and skipping |
| 17:19.09 | CrystalMath | like it always did |
| 17:19.14 | Ademan-laptop | alright... so here's where my failed dist-upgrade is at: https://paste.debian.net/1167486/ This starts at the first sign of trouble, if it's not useful I can paste the full scrollback |
| 17:19.19 | EdePopede | even had irc discs because of it when the ping pong had a good timing |
| 17:19.48 | EdePopede | isn't PA the opendesktop default sound system anyway? |
| 17:19.49 | CrystalMath | i never let firefox run for more than 30 minutes :P |
| 17:19.50 | Ademan-laptop | not sure if initscripts is a defunct package. oh, and for the record I'm trying to go direct from jessie->bullseye and I realize how dumb that was lol |
| 17:20.02 | CrystalMath | EdePopede: personally i don't pay attention to what people tell me to run |
| 17:20.08 | CrystalMath | so i don't care about "desktop defaults" |
| 17:20.12 | karlpinc | Ademan-laptop: You might look at the release notes. The have various "things have gone wrong" and what to do about them. |
| 17:20.21 | CrystalMath | defaults are what one uses if they have no imagination :P |
| 17:20.25 | CrystalMath | that's my belief at least |
| 17:20.35 | EdePopede | default means that the software will change the same skype did: only support this single system |
| 17:20.47 | CrystalMath | there's apulse :) |
| 17:20.54 | CrystalMath | it's a little wrapper |
| 17:21.10 | karlpinc | Ademan-laptop: That's your first problem. Try to upgrade to just the next release and go from there. |
| 17:21.14 | CrystalMath | i have software that only wants OSS |
| 17:21.22 | CrystalMath | but i have the oss-compat thing |
| 17:21.23 | EdePopede | alsa will be dead in some time for software with regular updates |
| 17:21.34 | CrystalMath | doesn't mean i can't work around it |
| 17:21.44 | CrystalMath | alsa will not be dead as it's pulseaudio's backend |
| 17:21.54 | CrystalMath | pulseaudio uses alsa |
| 17:22.09 | Ademan-laptop | karlpinc: I suppose that's what I get for trying to cut corners |
| 17:22.09 | EdePopede | i don't really feel like hacking the planet |
| 17:22.50 | EdePopede | hell knows how sound works on linux, never found any introduction to it which wouldn't need understanding of kernel stuff |
| 17:23.08 | karlpinc | I just can't figure out why one particular terminal window could have problems authententicating and none of the others. |
| 17:23.39 | greycat | different environment/shell? |
| 17:23.39 | karlpinc | EdePopede: I've solved that problem by never having used sound. :) |
| 17:24.00 | greycat | you were already logged in to a different system in that terminal, and forgot? |
| 17:24.02 | karlpinc | greycat: Nope. Let me diff `env` just to be sure. But I've looked through. |
| 17:24.11 | CrystalMath | karlpinc: i suppose that could be my future, if i manage to switch all my music making and listening stuff to analog |
| 17:24.14 | EdePopede | karlpinc: did this long enough, but tv&video sucks like a bit w/o sound ;) |
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| 17:24.20 | karlpinc | greycat: I've looked at `jobs`. |
| 17:24.23 | CrystalMath | karlpinc: i already use cassettes |
| 17:24.27 | CrystalMath | so it has begun :) |
| 17:25.47 | EdePopede | and now i just lost next to an hour again which corresponds to a whole episode. |
| 17:26.36 | karlpinc | greycat: The only env differences are WINDOWID, PWD, and the failing window has a OLDPWD that the other does not have. I'll see about getting rid of OLDPWD and try again. |
| 17:27.04 | greycat | OLDPWD is just the previous directory you were in |
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| 17:27.53 | karlpinc | Yeah. getting rid of it did nothing. |
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| 17:29.40 | karlpinc | greycat: I can't see what else to check. Could there be some sort of strange tty/pty something... somehow.... |
| 17:30.52 | karlpinc | It's an xfce4 terminal window. They all are. I suppose, somehow, that might matter. |
| 17:31.27 | EdePopede | karlpinc: maybe some kind of cookie/sid or similar? had to reset some of them in the past after re-suming a screen session in a restarted X. for things like firefox/hexchat. |
| 17:31.48 | r3d | I use Debian 10 XFCE on my Desktop PC and I changed my monitor 22" to 27". Under setting i have still 1920px x 1200px and no option to set up 3.840 x 2.160. Howto set up the bigger size? |
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| 17:32.13 | greycat | karlpinc: authentication to what? what error do you get? is it something that could be strace'd? |
| 17:35.59 | karlpinc | greycat: A remote box which is running nslcd to authenticate to openldap. It reports "invalid credentials". |
| 17:36.21 | jelly | Ademan-laptop, skipping releases is absolutely not supported, there are specific hacks for many packages to make them work going from release to release+1, that get removed before release+2 |
| 17:36.22 | karlpinc | greycat: The remote end is not mine. I can't fuss with it. |
| 17:36.51 | greycat | so you're... sshing to a remote non-debian system and running a command there, and that command is what's failing? |
| 17:37.03 | karlpinc | greycat: That does seem to be the only hope. See what the remote end thinks is happening. |
| 17:38.16 | karlpinc | greycat: Thanks for the brain-work. I'll see about debugging if I can ever make it happen again, and have the right tools to work with it. (Or, maybe it will just go away by itself when I get to bullseye. :) |
| 17:38.56 | karlpinc | greycat: I'm not running a command. I'm logging in. |
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| 17:40.38 | karlpinc | greycat: And what's strange is, this has happened to me before. With the authentication happening completely differently on the remote side. (I think then it was radius, I forget.) And the remote OS being completely different. The only thing that fixes it is closing the terminal window and starting fresh with a new one. |
| 17:41.40 | karlpinc | greycat: Unless these are 2 completely different problems with the same solution. :-) |
| 17:42.55 | karlpinc | greycat: What it probably means is the usual, I'm looking at the problem entirely wrong. But that's how it goes sometimes. |
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| 17:48.42 | jelly | r3d, can you pastebin the output of "xrandr"? Does this persist after a reboot? |
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| 17:51.33 | r3d | jelly, https://pastebin.com/MWBLvwjY well, i followed a tutorial some minutes ago and added a new screen resolutions |
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| 18:11.06 | n1c0de | Hello ! I need help to solve a problem about multiple monitors on ThinkPad W530 + Debian Buster + Bumblebee + Nvidia + Graphic card: GK107GLM [Quadro K1000M]. |
| 18:11.06 | n1c0de | I want to add 2 monitors but when i plug VGA, it's not detected, and DisplayPort just doesn't work (no DP listed with lspci). |
| 18:11.06 | n1c0de | Should I reinstall Nvidia driver ? Should I remove or configure Bumblebee ? |
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| 18:16.59 | greycat | just find an IRC bot written in your target language and use that as a starting point |
| 18:17.04 | greycat | ... damn it, ECHAN |
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| 18:18.31 | jelly | n1c0de, pastebin the output of "xrandr" |
| 18:18.49 | Ademan-laptop | it seems recovering from my mistake is a bit more complicated than I'd hoped, so I kept digging myself a hole instead... things actually seem to be going ok, except I don't have an update-rc.d... |
| 18:19.02 | Ademan-laptop | has that been removed recently? |
| 18:19.04 | jelly | remembers he doesn't know anything about optimus/bumblebee setups |
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| 18:20.07 | n1c0de | jelly: https://pastebin.com/G3MXdVAs |
| 18:20.29 | jelly | Ademan-laptop, it's probably a better idea to install a fresh bullseye if that's what you're after, than to care about issues that only happen when skipping releases |
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| 18:21.08 | jelly | n1c0de, so only two outputs are listed |
| 18:21.20 | Ademan-laptop | jelly: agreed, I put myself in a tough spot here though, I just need to hobble through the next couple of days and then I can Do The Right Thing (TM) |
| 18:21.41 | n1c0de | jelly: Right, when i plug the VGA nothing happends |
| 18:21.44 | Ademan-laptop | I mean, at the end of the day, failure is an option here too, just undesirable |
| 18:22.28 | dex1983 | astronavt would it also be possible to pack into a bash script and use it like |
| 18:22.31 | dex1983 | command 1 |
| 18:22.34 | dex1983 | command2 |
| 18:22.41 | dex1983 | in a bash script file? |
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| 18:31.00 | jelly | n1c0de, can you disable nvidia in bios, run only on intel, and see if there's a change? |
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| 18:31.40 | jelly | n1c0de, or ask in ##ibmthinkpad, they probably know how outputs in a W530 are wired |
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| 18:32.04 | n1c0de | jelly: I don't know if i can do that in BIOS |
| 18:32.16 | jelly | !tisa |
| 18:32.20 | jelly | !tias |
| 18:32.20 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 18:33.06 | n1c0de | jelly: I also try ##ibmthinkpad channel |
| 18:33.28 | n1c0de | jelly: I reboot to see and come back ;) |
| 18:34.04 | jelly | runs away |
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| 18:35.12 | n1c0de | jelly: lol wht ? |
| 18:35.15 | n1c0de | why* |
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| 18:41.46 | n1c0de | jelly: ok i'm running on integrated graphic card |
| 18:42.25 | n1c0de | jelly: xrandr |
| 18:42.25 | n1c0de | Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 900, maximum 8192 x 8192 |
| 18:42.25 | n1c0de | XWAYLAND0 connected 1600x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 350mm x 190mm |
| 18:42.25 | n1c0de | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.46 | n1c0de | So VGA is not listed here |
| 18:43.41 | n1c0de | I forgot that i can switch graphic card in BIOS |
| 18:45.18 | unixbsd | nkuttler: hi! |
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| 19:23.01 | codedmart | Does anyone use systemd-nspawn for isolated dev env? I thought about trying it out, but I am stuck at no internet in the container. |
| 19:23.20 | alex11 | i've heard it works well but i haven't tried it myself |
| 19:23.29 | alex11 | i should play with it |
| 19:25.25 | codedmart | If I use `VirtualEthernet=no` in the nspawn file. Then in the container `echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf` it seems to work (ping doesn't), but this seems like I am doing something wrong. |
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| 19:26.07 | greycat | ping requires root or a special capability |
| 19:27.02 | psusi | anyone have any idea why an ncurses app using ansi graphics / cp437 doesn't show up right via ssh/putty, but I can manually type some of the chracters in a terminal and they do? I think it's something wrong with ncurses maybe? |
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| 19:27.13 | codedmart | greycat root can |
| 19:27.19 | codedmart | Sorry |
| 19:27.26 | codedmart | root can't ping either. |
| 19:27.29 | alex11 | oh sorry codedmart i totally misread your question |
| 19:27.36 | alex11 | missed "i'm stuck at no internet" |
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| 19:29.26 | greycat | so a (UDP) DNS lookup worked, but an ICMP ping did not? |
| 19:31.13 | codedmart | I suppose `apt update` works ping says `ping: socket: Operation not permitted` for the user and root. |
| 19:33.09 | greycat | Certainly sounds permission-y. Like you're missing an overriding capability line in the unit config. |
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| 19:35.30 | codedmart | That would make sense. I have no idea what I am doing :). |
| 19:35.54 | karlpinc | psusi: Have you checked $TERM when logged-in both ways and compared? |
| 19:36.31 | jmcnaught | codedmart: are you using systemd-networkd? Networking in systemd-nspawn containers worked out of the box for me when I used them together. |
| 19:36.48 | karlpinc | psusi: And checked the terminal settings of both clients. |
| 19:36.49 | greycat | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=232804 |
| 19:36.55 | greycat | is the first good link I've found |
| 19:37.41 | Ademan | so... I against all odds, good practices, and reason, I seem to have prevailed... would a `dpkg --configure -a` help identify lingering problems and/or fix them? |
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| 19:38.17 | Ademan | for context since it's been a while: I did a dist-upgrade from jessie direct to bullseye, broke many things along the way |
| 19:38.35 | jmcnaught | yikes |
| 19:38.37 | Ademan | used dpkg --force-conflict a handful of times to get through |
| 19:38.54 | Ademan | yeah, this is a giant self-inflicted wound lol |
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| 19:41.57 | codedmart | jmcnaught: No I am using network manager and when I start systemd-networkd it seemed to interfere and killed my internet. |
| 19:42.32 | jmcnaught | codedmart: if you are using wifi then you will want to stay with NetworkManager probably. |
| 19:42.57 | codedmart | Yeah I am on wifi. |
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| 19:51.19 | jmcnaught | codedmart: does networking work if you run "systemd-nspawn -D /path/to/container"? |
| 19:52.40 | codedmart | No same issue. Maybe I will start from a blank slate again. I must have done something wrong. |
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| 19:56.35 | Ademan | about time to fly lol, oh well |
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| 20:06.31 | codedmart | On another note. I could use ethernet, but I can't seem to get my realtek rtl8125b working. |
| 20:07.02 | codedmart | I installed the 5.8 kernel from buster-backports as well as firmware-realtek. |
| 20:07.22 | codedmart | Oh wait |
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| 20:08.24 | codedmart | Yeah I get `modprobe: FATAL: Module r8125 not found in directory /lib/modules/5.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64` when I try to `modprobe r8125`. |
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| 20:11.12 | sney | looks like support for that nic is being patched into the existing r8169 driver |
| 20:11.25 | jmcnaught | codedmart: 'lspci -nnk | grep -A2 -i net' this command should tell you the PCI-ID for the card, and which module is in use. |
| 20:13.12 | codedmart | jmcnaught Hmm... that says r8169. But I don't see anything in network settings in gnome and `ip a` only shows lo, and my wireless wlo1. |
| 20:14.14 | jmcnaught | codedmart: are there any messages about realtek firmware in your dmesg output or journal/logs? |
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| 20:16.30 | codedmart | jmcnaught: Just found this: RTL8125B support is available on linux-next and will be included in 5.9 |
| 20:17.25 | codedmart | Nothing in dmesg about realtek other then audio. But for r8169 I see this: `[ 1.542240] r8169 0000:2a:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0003) |
| 20:17.26 | codedmart | [ 1.542332] r8169 0000:2a:00.0: unknown chip XID 641` |
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| 20:18.05 | jmcnaught | codedmart: looks like you need to wait for 5.9 to hit backports to use your ethernet adapter. |
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| 20:25.38 | codedmart | Oh nice realtek had a driver I downloaded and built. Works now. |
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| 20:27.42 | jmcnaught | Was DKMS involved? |
| 20:29.05 | jmcnaught | Without DKMS you will need to repeat the realtek driver installation whenever a kernel update brings an ABI change. https://wiki.debian.org/KernelDKMS |
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| 21:30.51 | jhutchins | !r8125 |
| 21:31.05 | jhutchins | !realtek |
| 21:31.05 | dpkg | Realtek is a developer of semiconductors. Realtek Ethernet controllers are supported by the 8139too, 8139cp and <r8169> drivers in the mainline Linux kernel. For support of Realtek-based wireless LAN devices, ask me about <rtl819x> (802.11n) or <rtl818x> (802.11b/g). |
| 21:31.46 | jhutchins | Hm, may not be supported yet. |
| 21:32.24 | biberao | hi could anyone give me a hand with my bluetooth dongle? |
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| 21:34.17 | biberao | im getting connected yes connected n |
| 21:34.18 | biberao | o |
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| 21:50.57 | jadax | I have USB Ethernet adapter that I'm using static IP address with. How can I configure it so that this adapter gets the same static IP address after reboots or USB disconnects/reconnects? |
| 21:54.28 | jmcnaught | jadax: what are you using to configure your network? ifupdown (/etc/network/interfaces), NetworkManager, something else? |
| 21:54.40 | jadax | I do have NetworkManager |
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| 21:56.30 | jmcnaught | jadax: you can choose to define a static IP address in NetworkManager for that interface, instead of DHCP. Or if you configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces then NetworkManager will ignore that interface. |
| 21:57.05 | jadax | is networkmanager within Settings -> Network GUI ? |
| 21:58.05 | jmcnaught | jadax: I do not know which desktop environment you are using. If you are using GNOME then you go to Settings and click on Network in the left side panel. |
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| 21:59.34 | jadax | that GUI is bad |
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| 21:59.41 | jadax | it doesn't allow me to enable 2 interfaces at the same time |
| 21:59.52 | jadax | and it moves my configuration from USB interface to PCIe interface |
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| 22:00.00 | jadax | I guess I will use /etc/network/interfaces then |
| 22:00.28 | jadax | would something like that work, https://hastebin.com/asawejikun.css ? |
| 22:01.19 | jmcnaught | jadax: hastebin does not work in my browser for some reason, https://paste.debian.net/ works though |
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| 22:01.52 | jmcnaught | jadax: besides "man interfaces" there is a lot of information here: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration and also the Debian Reference chapter linked in the admonition at the top of that page. |
| 22:01.55 | jadax | https://paste.debian.net/plain/1167521 |
| 22:02.43 | jmcnaught | jadax: is the interface named usb0? |
| 22:02.52 | jadax | yes |
| 22:03.14 | jmcnaught | jadax: is this going into a file in /etc/network/interfaces.d ? |
| 22:03.20 | jmcnaught | or, where is lo? |
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| 22:07.23 | jadax | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.17 | jmcnaught | jadax: a default interfaces file starts off with this at the top: https://paste.debian.net/1167522/ |
| 22:08.34 | jadax | yeah, I'm just appending my part to it |
| 22:09.11 | jmcnaught | jadax: generally it is best to share complete config files to eliminate this kind of confusion, or in case there is another part of the file that is problematic. |
| 22:09.19 | jadax | oh, sorry |
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| 22:09.47 | jmcnaught | No worries, nothing to apologize for |
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| 22:10.58 | jadax | does that look good then ? |
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| 22:11.17 | fernando_ | this |
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| 22:11.51 | jmcnaught | jadax: I do not see a problem with it, did you test it? (with "ifup usb0") |
| 22:12.17 | jadax | it works, jmcnaught ! |
| 22:12.30 | jmcnaught | jadax: nice! |
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| 23:28.25 | ryouma | today i encountered "drwx-----T". what does the T mean? |
| 23:28.48 | ryouma | i am having one of those days where i make major mistakes with filesystem operations. idk if i caused that or rsnapshot did, or the application did, or... |
| 23:29.32 | ryouma | man chmod does not list T, nor does man ls |
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| 23:32.50 | LtL | T == only sticky t == sticky +x bit |
| 23:33.19 | ryouma | thanks |
| 23:34.05 | LtL | np |
| 23:34.10 | ryouma | is it plausible that texmf creates this in an empty config dir? |
| 23:34.27 | ryouma | in a user dir? |
| 23:34.42 | ryouma | specifically .texmf-var/fonts/tfm/unknown/unknown/ |
| 23:37.15 | LtL | i'd say yes |
| 23:37.35 | ryouma | thanks |
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| 23:55.02 | Enissay | Hi all, I am using this variable to extract some IPs the I need to loop on: address=$(nslookup tasks.rabbitmq | grep Address) |
| 23:55.03 | Enissay | Sadly I am expecting 3 lines to be in the array, but instead it says it has 20+: echo "${#address[@]}" |
| 23:55.05 | Enissay | I am using sh |
| 23:56.42 | Enissay | When looping over those values `for value in "${address[@]}"; do echo $value; done`, I get "sh: 73: Bad substitution" |
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