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| 00:03.53 | rk4 | if you were using bash you could ask in #bash |
| 00:07.04 | Enissay | Sadly forced to work in sh |
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| 00:12.13 | H-var | hi, my name is Ablheiyn 'C0d3xFF' Rubenschnautz - I'm new to linux. Just wanted to ask, how everyone's feeling today? |
| 00:14.26 | rk4 | there's over a thousand people in the room, do you really mean everyone |
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| 00:24.25 | hmuller | H-var: nice middle name |
| 00:25.39 | hmuller | H-var: I found this handy when I was new to linux: https://tldp.org/ |
| 00:25.56 | H-var | tldr.org? |
| 00:26.10 | hmuller | that's a p =P |
| 00:26.21 | H-var | too long didn't print |
| 00:26.44 | H-var | wait I need to reboot to make my bluetooth work lol. |
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| 00:32.04 | rk4 | taking bets as to if reboot made bt work |
| 00:32.15 | H-var | I said "ok google, are you are linux person?" |
| 00:32.27 | H-var | and google heard, "are you a little person" haha |
| 00:32.38 | H-var | and replied "I can talk like a person" |
| 00:32.41 | H-var | wut |
| 00:33.03 | H-var | I repeat, "Ok, Google, are you a Linux person??" |
| 00:33.17 | H-var | now it heard it right, and replied, "I try VERY hard to be kind" |
| 00:33.21 | H-var | lol wtf |
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| 00:33.47 | H-var | google knows linux people have anger issues |
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| 00:36.02 | hop | did you say LIE-nux or LEE-nux? |
| 00:36.21 | H-var | who the hell says "LIE-nux"? |
| 00:39.36 | hop | *shrug* |
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| 00:47.07 | marbar | hello. hope everyone here is having a nice day. is this the appropriate place to ask about an integrated webcam (dell laptop) that isn't working? i've tried various things, including bios update and switch to latest (5.8) kernel - still brokey :'( thanks in advance! |
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| 00:53.10 | blackop | is it possible to install Toxic in debian? |
| 00:53.19 | blackop | i tried sudo apt install toxic but gave error |
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| 00:53.37 | blackop | it says E: unable to locate package |
| 00:55.30 | rk4 | blackop: i'd start with man apt-cache so you can diagnose 'unable to locate package' errors |
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| 00:57.42 | oerheks | check their toxic wiki page? |
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| 00:58.13 | jmcnaught | marbar: what program did you try it with? Do you get any error messages? |
| 00:59.54 | marbar | jmcnaught, thank you! |
| 00:59.57 | marbar | i'm testing with cheese |
| 01:00.05 | marbar | should i pastebin the error? |
| 01:00.09 | marbar | it's just a line or so |
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| 01:00.36 | jmcnaught | One or two lines is fine, more than two lines use a pastebin. |
| 01:00.41 | marbar | ok |
| 01:00.55 | marbar | this is the short line: |
| 01:00.56 | marbar | Call to S_FMT failed for YUYV @ 640x480: Input/output error |
| 01:01.32 | marbar | the longer line (it is technically a line) is rather long, so sorry, but here: |
| 01:01.33 | marbar | (cheese:2641): cheese-WARNING **: 17:39:36.158: Device '/dev/video0' failed during initialization: gstv4l2object.c(3767): gst_v4l2_object_set_format_full (): /GstCameraBin:camerabin/GstWrapperCameraBinSrc:camera_source/GstBin:bin28/GstV4l2Src:v4l2src1 |
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| 01:04.19 | marbar | oh also of note: ls /dev | grep video gives me video0 and video1 (i only have one [integrated] webcam) |
| 01:07.49 | jmcnaught | marbar: in Cheese preferences can you change the video resolution? Have you tried another program like webcamoid? |
| 01:10.40 | marbar | thanks jmcnaught i haven't yet, but those are good ideas. i should also note that i'm running a dell xps 13 9323 with a realtek 0bda:5682 webcam thing (which seems to have a lot of problems, judging by forums) - oh and it's broken looking in lsusb |
| 01:10.55 | marbar | i'll pastebin that over to you |
| 01:11.47 | marbar | https://pastebin.com/baiarXYa |
| 01:12.24 | marbar | oh and regarding testing w/ other platforms, i first noticed this doing some browser-based streaming video stuff (chromium) |
| 01:12.31 | marbar | also tested vlc |
| 01:12.54 | marbar | and something else, can't think of the name, as well as some website (turnonyourcam.com or something?) |
| 01:13.14 | marbar | but yeah, doesn't that lsusb look broken? |
| 01:14.56 | marbar | oops i mean xps 13 9343 |
| 01:15.10 | jmcnaught | marbar: yeah that camera looks busted. Does it work sometimes? |
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| 01:15.29 | marbar | after updating the bios (A05->A20) it worked for a couple days |
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| 01:15.51 | marbar | but one session of streaming video (web) work broke it again :'( |
| 01:18.25 | marbar | so do you mean busted in a hardware way? |
| 01:19.00 | marbar | or do you think this is something some kind of firmware upgrade could possibly address, jmcnaught ? |
| 01:20.11 | jmcnaught | marbar: I do not know, but I do not think the issue is a software one. |
| 01:20.56 | marbar | shucks. yes, i read about dell replacing screens for people. |
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| 01:40.55 | rk4 | there's a fair bit to be said for discrete webcams - much better picture quality, and much more smooth hardware compatability [since you obviously shop around for the one that works!] rather than the random crap you get in laptops |
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| 02:01.43 | marbar | good call rk4 - i dug up an ancient ViewQuest Intel Pro Share Webcam, works like a charm (besides being generating an unusably dark stream) |
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| 02:02.18 | rk4 | :D i normally get a 'fu i want my weird new shit to just work' when i make suggestions like that |
| 02:02.18 | marbar | but this might be good enough for some of the testing i need to do :) |
| 02:03.22 | marbar | haha, nah, it was a great suggestion! certainly better to have something somewhat working. |
| 02:05.59 | marbar | but all those errors in the lsusb dump are still making me cry :-\ the hardware itself hasn't changed since yesterday (when it stopped working). but i mean, at that point it was only working for a few days (due to a bios update), before which it wasn't working for several weeks. but before that it worked fine! i hope there's a firmware solution. or, as suggested, i could just find a less ancient external cam. |
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| 02:08.20 | marbar | shucks - although i can get a dark stream by selecting the external in vlc, neither cam works outside of this context (cheese, websites, etc). therefore, i'm still crying :'( |
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| 03:25.01 | svetlana | Hi, what is this doing on my pc? https://dpaste.com/85YZDDGNH.txt i did not ask it to compile a kernel... |
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| 03:28.16 | themill | KBUILD_MODNAME="vboxdrv" |
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| 05:32.16 | unixbsd | I am comparing the performances of freebsd versus debian. Debian download speed of large files is twice slower than the speed of FreeBSD, for the same hardware and cables. RPIÂ3. Where it could come from? better driver of freebsd? |
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| 07:05.18 | unixbsd | would you know how to draw something on the /dev/fb0 using sdl 1.2 ? or sdl 2.? |
| 07:05.35 | unixbsd | (C programming for instance) |
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| 07:09.31 | genr8_ | SDL_FBDEV. Frame buffer device to use in the linux fbcon driver, instead of /dev/fb0. |
| 07:09.58 | genr8_ | looks like it already works, just use SDL |
| 07:12.46 | genr8_ | This looks useful https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/fbdev/attachments/slides/3595/export/events/attachments/fbdev/slides/3595/fosdem_2020_nicolas_caramelli_linux_framebuffer.pdf |
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| 07:13.08 | genr8_ | Very useful in fact |
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| 07:36.31 | unixbsd | the file fb_mmap.c can be compiled on BSD! |
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| 07:47.00 | unixbsd | it would be interesting to start with sdl1.2 to see how to draw rectange on the /dev/fb0 |
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| 08:04.34 | genr8_ | yea it looks like it all starts with an mmap of /dev/fb0 and then the RGB pixel layout is just addresses in that memory map |
| 08:05.26 | genr8_ | of note, I crashed my computer by writing to it while still running X :) |
| 08:06.31 | bionade24 | Hi, my Bios wrote |
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| 08:07.26 | bionade24 | *detects 8Gb of Ram, so does dmidecode. But free only shows 5.8Gi. Why! |
| 08:08.18 | genr8_ | print the Mem: line of "free" |
| 08:08.18 | bionade24 | Is it maybe because of the iGPU? |
| 08:08.28 | genr8_ | likely |
| 08:08.59 | genr8_ | paste* what free says for Mem: |
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| 08:10.19 | bionade24 | total is 5,8 Gib |
| 08:10.44 | genr8_ | k |
| 08:11.16 | genr8_ | configure your bios to share less memory to the iGPU |
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| 08:13.31 | bionade24 | genr8_: but I thought they allocate dynamically? |
| 08:15.45 | genr8_ | a large amount is pre-allocated and blocks the memory for system use |
| 08:16.37 | genr8_ | look for something called "DVMT" |
| 08:17.30 | bionade24 | But on all intel CPUs i have its displayed correctly. Or is one DRam storage damaged? |
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| 08:21.43 | genr8_ | download more ram. |
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| 08:27.10 | genr8_ | it does seem to be different on Ryzen + Vega 8 APUs. |
| 08:27.40 | genr8_ | either the BIOS has a setting for controlling it, or it doesnt. |
| 08:28.31 | bionade24 | Thx, I'm not concerned anymore. |
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| 08:30.29 | genr8_ | might be called "UMA Frame Buffer Size" on AMD |
| 08:31.31 | genr8_ | https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-280 |
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| 08:32.43 | genr8_ | seems to be a common issue of concern |
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| 08:39.16 | unixbsd | Ok, I got already half done to plot of SDL1.2 framebuffer, here the prg01 to get SDL to work. sdl.c https://termbin.com/hrpa (I added in it how to install sdl and to compile). I work on next step. |
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| 08:47.31 | genr8_ | good |
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| 09:19.25 | unixbsd | Mission Completed for SDL Framebuffer, this code sdl-fb0.c gives graphics on the fb0, using sdl1.2. https://termbin.com/4zm6 (tested on buster raspberry pi,rpi3b, buster). Works perfect. |
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