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| 00:04.28 | Waxhead | (main problem is - I am NOT visually impaired (not that old) - both debian.org and micronews.debin.org use gigantic fonts by default. - the old site was better structured, cleaner and looked more professional. |
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| 00:29.16 | Poster | I think the style you describe is becoming largely adopted across many sites, just punching in a few other large OS/distribution players seems to yield similar styles |
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| 00:31.32 | Poster | it's important to remember that a signifncant percentage of web browsing is happening on mobile devices now with relatively small displays. Making fonts and images larger can make those interfaces much easier to use |
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| 00:55.14 | Waxhead | Poster: But Debian is NOT for cellphones (primarily). Too many "professionals" make websites more like a techdemo , but the new main page does not have any useful content. Do I really have to set a zoom level on my browser just because I need to conform to those using cellphones? Gimme a break. |
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| 00:58.15 | sney | Waxhead: to answer your question, no, there is not a way to go back to the old design. if you have some constructive critiques, feel free to email debian-www@lists.debian.org. we don't really deal with the website here. |
| 00:59.00 | Waxhead | sney: Okeydok - thanks a bunch. I'll try to do that instead! Cheers! |
| 00:59.07 | sney | np |
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| 01:02.22 | foxide | finds the new layout far more efficient. |
| 01:02.43 | foxide | One click to the netinst download, one click to the security advisories. |
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| 01:03.16 | sney | doesn't have a problem with it, but wishes they would put the netinst download on a landing page with links to verification/other installer images |
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| 01:04.35 | Waxhead | will keep quiet and try to stay on topic :) |
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| 01:44.39 | jennie | hello, i installed dvd1 with debian buster, i have kde and i am stuck at login with deb user, i cant switch it to root why? |
| 01:45.10 | jennie | how to swithc to root, i tried arrow keys, i tried clicking arrows but it wont let me switch to root user, its stuck at deb user i created |
| 01:45.24 | sney | don't log into kde as root. |
| 01:45.48 | sney | most X applications don't support it, even if you manage to get in, your desktop will be broken |
| 01:46.09 | sney | instead, log in as your normal user. then if you need a root shell you can use sudo or su from konsole |
| 01:46.14 | robobox | feels too old |
| 01:46.37 | jennie | okay sney |
| 01:46.59 | robobox | there's a ~2005 era slashdot rant I found and use when relevent |
| 01:50.20 | sney | robobox: a side effect of linux being "easy" for the past decade is that a lot of people are lacking fundamentals, that they didn't need to learn as a natural part of the process of setting up a working system. so a "rant" from 2005 is probably completely off the mark by now |
| 01:51.01 | sney | never mind some of the "*plonk*" fodder that older helpers in this channel still fall back on |
| 01:51.17 | n4dir | when i started using linux, which is the same as using computers and as using debian, it was already very easy. That should have been 2007 |
| 01:51.24 | n4dir | sney: ^^ |
| 01:51.29 | robobox | i've been using X as root for 25 yewars |
| 01:51.34 | robobox | and linux |
| 01:51.55 | robobox | guess i'm too old (50 years) :( |
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| 01:52.38 | sney | I started using linux in 2000, a few months after reading a book that advised me to pick between redhat and debian. (I basically flipped a coin.) |
| 01:52.40 | n4dir | sney: ah, i recall, it was etch, but short after that the next release came out |
| 01:52.48 | sney | n4dir: I forgot a ~ before decade, I meant to be approximate |
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| 01:54.05 | n4dir | sney: yeah, it is just i remember well, as i was told how horribly difficult it is. It wasn't, i was reliefed, and hence remember. Just a "story" |
| 01:54.07 | sney | anyway, there are a lot of people who are perfectly fine at general gui operation, and booting installers and sneakernet-ing files around, but don't know anything about privilege separation or other low level unix stuff because they haven't had to learn it until now. |
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| 02:09.44 | n4dir | guilty. i guess |
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| 02:13.41 | ryouma | to me linux (e.g. new subsystems, initrd, etc.) and computers (smr drives) are getting more complex and it is quite annoying |
| 02:14.15 | ryouma | but to a just-run-me-a-windows-like-desktop user perhaps it is getting less copmlex |
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| 02:19.47 | ectospasm | I was introduced to Slackware on January 13, 1997, the day after HAL-9000 went online. |
| 02:21.02 | ectospasm | I have been using Linux ever since. Didn't set up Linux on my daily driver until about 2001 or so. |
| 02:21.33 | ectospasm | I started using Debian ca 2008, after a brief stint with Ubuntu as my daily driver. |
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| 03:02.45 | lf94 | Hey, is there a way to modify a control file and re-run it? |
| 03:03.11 | lf94 | Right now I'm running Debian testing, and one of the dependencies the control file requires, libre2-8, doesn't exist, but libre2-9 does |
| 03:03.29 | lf94 | https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium-debian/issues/191 |
| 03:03.37 | sney | lf94: as you can see from the topic, testing support is in #debian-next on OFTC (note, right now you are on freenode) |
| 03:03.50 | lf94 | Whoops! Sorry, my window is quite small |
| 03:03.53 | lf94 | I'll go |
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| 07:46.43 | powerhouse | I got Debian running as a VM. I am using Gnome but I don't see how I can open a terminal or a web browser. I see in settings - search - terminal but I click it any nothing happens. Any ideas? |
| 07:52.46 | nkuttler | powerhouse: gnome has menu, doesn't it? |
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| 08:08.35 | powerhouse | nkuttler, oh there we go, I had to press Activities |
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| 08:13.47 | idlestranger | tbh I tried gnome with buster and immediately hated it. I haven't liked any version of gnome after gnome 2. Currently happy with cinnamon as a DE, though if you're still exploring DE's, lxqt's pretty good as well imho. xfce has the same issues it had 6 years ago(no surprise there) and my impression of kde plasma can be summed up as 'misguided'. Now i'm sure both gnome and kde can be tweaked to your |
| 08:13.53 | idlestranger | liking, and most of xfce's issues can be worked around. just my personal opinions. |
| 08:14.42 | powerhouse | idlestranger, grattitude |
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| 08:42.57 | powerhouse | How do I get out of fullscreen mode on a vm so I can get back to my main os? |
| 08:43.35 | idlestranger | which vm software are you using? |
| 08:44.00 | powerhouse | No software, I just ran my script and loaded the OS |
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| 08:44.30 | idlestranger | hypervisor then? |
| 08:44.56 | powerhouse | sorry not sure. |
| 08:45.16 | powerhouse | im using visualization if that helps. |
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| 08:45.34 | idlestranger | if hypervisor it should be ctrl+alt+pause, if vmware player it should be ctrl+alt+enter |
| 08:45.49 | yogoyo | hello, when i install buster on my laptop i setup wifi. i skip the gui install, because i wanna do some things before that. but when i boot the new system i have no connection to the network |
| 08:46.00 | yogoyo | how can i restore it? |
| 08:46.33 | powerhouse | idlestranger, got it thanks! |
| 08:50.16 | yogoyo | !nm-cli |
| 08:50.28 | yogoyo | !nmcli |
| 08:50.29 | dpkg | nmcli is a command line interface for controlling <NetworkManager>, introduced at version 0.8.1. See nmcli(1) or http://manpages.debian.org/man/1/nmcli for use cases. |
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| 11:41.11 | yibotg | Hi,I used xterm and st,and found that the same font in Xterm is displayed wider when the antialias is true ,and if I close the antialias,the font is displayed worse. But the font in st is OK. I want to know how to compact the font.Thanks |
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| 12:01.24 | towser | hello, I'm trying to use obs with snappy but for some reason the text is missing but all the buttons load up and a few errors I can't read because there is no text |
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| 12:03.48 | noln | Testing users, install apt-listbugs and don't upgrade python today, https://bugs.debian.org/980906 |
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| 12:04.29 | davorin | good afternoon (o; |
| 12:05.10 | davorin | ah this nouveau blacklisting is a nightmare every time i install debian on a system with nvidia gpu... |
| 12:05.23 | davorin | never works with adding an entry under modprobe.conf.d |
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| 12:55.20 | davorin | seems nvidia installer doesn't install any blacklists |
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| 13:01.23 | unixbsd | Which Filesystem does have a badsect/badsector ? Ext2,3,4, what else? |
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| 13:02.53 | Vatum | is apparmor enabled by default in debian 10 buster? do i need to pass any parameter to the kernel boot line? |
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| 13:06.23 | foxide | Vatum: I believe it is enabled by default. |
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| 13:11.07 | Vatum | foxide, is there a way to check with certainty? |
| 13:11.47 | foxide | Vatum: aa-status as root or via sudo. |
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| 13:13.39 | Vatum | foxide, says apparmor module is loaded |
| 13:13.50 | Vatum | and 2 profiles are loaded, with them 2 being nvidia in enforce mode |
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| 13:14.05 | foxide | Then its enabled. |
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| 13:19.31 | towser | missing libary libGL.so.1 when trying to launch steam. how do i fix this? |
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| 13:24.01 | noln | unixbsd, pretty much all, except btrfs |
| 13:25.28 | noln | unixbsd, but writing to a bad sector will remap it to a "spare" sector from a spare area at the physical disk level (below the FS) so filesystem-level bad-sector marking is not needed until the drive runs out of spare sectors |
| 13:26.14 | foxide | And at that point, you're better served by replacing the disk. |
| 13:27.31 | noln | well, sometimes it's easier to keep daily backups, which you should do anyway |
| 13:27.51 | noln | or do a btrfs raid1 |
| 13:27.59 | foxide | raid isn't backups |
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| 13:29.27 | noln | or keep .git on a separate disk |
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| 13:33.35 | yibotg | exit |
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| 13:40.04 | Lope | is there any reason I can't run a buster container on a 3.4 kernel? |
| 13:40.34 | azeem | did you try? |
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| 13:41.18 | Lope | azeem, I had trouble in the past, where I couldn't run anything newer than wheezy or whatever on a 3.0 kernel due to libc6 requiring a 3.1 kernel IIRC |
| 13:41.41 | Lope | But I've not encountered any trouble with a 3.4 kernel, but haven't tried anything newer than Jessie on a 3.4 kernel either. |
| 13:41.58 | Lope | Sorry, haven't tried anything newer than Stretch on a 3.4 kernel. |
| 13:42.04 | Lope | I'll give it a try :) |
| 13:44.59 | Lope | okay, yolo, upgrading the stretch to buster :) |
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| 14:14.49 | Lope | It worked :) |
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| 14:36.46 | Vatum | i wanted ejabberd but the stable package is old, so i checked buster-backports which is current. my friend though insists that this will break our system because its from backports, and we got the one .deb packge from ejabberd official site |
| 14:37.19 | Vatum | i thought backports are compiled against libraries existing in stable right? so can it introduce instability? |
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| 14:40.07 | dvs | Vatum: backports was designed to work with stable so it won't break stable. |
| 14:40.46 | Vatum | dvs, also should i do apt-get install -t buster-backports ejabberd |
| 14:40.56 | Vatum | or apt-get install ejabberd/buster-backports ? |
| 14:41.22 | Vatum | from what i have read the latter get dependencies from stable, the former with -t gets dependencies from backports |
| 14:41.43 | Vatum | (i originally saw an article about that talking about unstable, and grabbing packages from there and the differences between the two commands) |
| 14:41.45 | dvs | the former |
| 14:43.11 | Vatum | dvs, alright also, i want to pin the package. i dont want it updated every time i do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:43.39 | Vatum | reading about pins, it is about other repos like testing or unstable. can it be done with backports? |
| 14:44.12 | dvs | Vatum: it can be done with any repo |
| 14:44.33 | dvs | Vatum: but why don't you want that package to upgrade? |
| 14:45.11 | Vatum | dvs, they sometimes have syntax changes from version to version, and we want to first test the new version on a seperate machine before upgrading our main machine |
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| 14:45.34 | dvs | ok |
| 14:45.39 | Vatum | and not only config syntax changes, various other things might change |
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| 14:55.07 | Vatum | dvp, so i go to apt preferances and drop priority of buster-backports right? |
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| 14:57.21 | dvs | Vatum: the priority of buster-backports is already below stable by default. |
| 14:57.46 | dvs | Vatum: apt-cache policy ejabberd |
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| 15:10.10 | Vatum | dvs, then how does apt-get dist-upgraade, automatically get new updates from backports? |
| 15:10.18 | Vatum | from packages installed from backports? |
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| 15:13.23 | dvs | Vatum: backported packages will get upgraded normally. apt knows if a package came from backports and will not override it with a stable package. |
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| 15:18.32 | Vatum | dvs, what if i want to pin the backported package to a version? as i said |
| 15:19.39 | dvs | You can do that. But you can just mark the package as hold through apt though. |
| 15:22.51 | abrotman | you probably shouldn't do that, it would impact your ability to get security updates |
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| 15:40.11 | daysun | user _0dev_ spamming discord link about "hacking. |
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| 15:44.41 | alex11 | is there any way to send text from a file instantly to your clipboard? |
| 15:45.36 | derpadmin | xclip? |
| 15:45.40 | derpadmin | I think... |
| 15:45.41 | plushtrap | hi |
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| 15:55.28 | jim | hi |
| 15:55.48 | daysun | alex11: xclip < file but that goes into your "x clipboard" which means that you paste with your mouse middle button |
| 15:56.12 | jim | cat aFile | xclip I guess |
| 15:56.24 | jim | or that |
| 15:57.01 | daysun | cats and pipes jim |
| 15:58.17 | jim | rolls the dumptruck a few inches from daysun... then dumps thousands of cats on his head! |
| 15:59.40 | alex11 | now, now |
| 15:59.42 | alex11 | settle down |
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| 16:06.42 | henko | what is the canonical way to set up interface priorities? I want my default interface to be the wired one when it's plugged in instead of wifi. also when removing the patch cable I want it to automatically use the other interface. |
| 16:07.43 | henko | I've seen many ways to accomplish that. some make a bridge which aggregates both interfaces. some use ipmetric, some use nmcli and some directly change /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:48.31 | __marco | could you help me to repair a failed upgrade? I am not able to boot anymore so I started from an usb stick and I would like to chroot and run apt from there but there is an issue with glibc: |
| 16:48.53 | __marco | libc.so.6 version not found (required by libselinux.so.1) |
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| 16:50.52 | __marco | I can not even launch ls |
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| 16:54.11 | sney | __marco: libc6 is pretty fundamental. are you seeing that message before or after chroot? |
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| 16:54.35 | __marco | sney: after I chroot |
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| 16:55.26 | __marco | command is chroot /mnt where I mounted in /mnt the primary partition of my HD |
| 16:55.47 | __marco | it contains /bin, /usr, /var, etc. except /home |
| 16:55.47 | sney | ok, log out of the chroot, and go to /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu on the target disk, and see what 'ls -l libc.so.6' says |
| 16:56.02 | sney | that's fine, you don't need /home for this stuff. |
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| 16:57.24 | __marco | sney: symlink to libc-2.28.so |
| 16:57.50 | __marco | libc-2.28.so is there |
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| 16:58.16 | sney | ok, that's what it should be. did you fsck this volume before mounting it? if not, unmount it and do that. |
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| 16:58.39 | __marco | I did run e2fsck and no errors |
| 16:58.48 | sney | did you with -f? |
| 16:59.13 | __marco | no I didn't |
| 16:59.41 | sney | just to make sure it actually checks |
| 16:59.55 | __marco | sney: a precision that I just notice. exact error is GLIBC_2.30 not found, but I have libc 2.28 |
| 17:00.07 | __marco | libc was one of the candidates for upgrade |
| 17:00.28 | __marco | I wonder if some packages upgraded and libc didn't |
| 17:00.40 | __marco | in any case I run e2fsck again |
| 17:01.19 | sney | libc6 2.30 isn't in any current debian branch, what are you upgrading to? |
| 17:01.36 | __marco | stable -> testing |
| 17:01.44 | sney | testing has 2.31. |
| 17:01.47 | Vatum | i want the apparmor profile from this package: https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/ejabberd/filelist |
| 17:02.00 | Vatum | do i just need /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.ejabberdctl or anything else? |
| 17:02.03 | __marco | sney: I don't know what to say |
| 17:02.20 | __marco | sney: so, e2fsck -f did pass |
| 17:02.23 | __marco | no errors |
| 17:03.29 | sney | __marco: alright, is libc-2.31.so present in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu? |
| 17:05.00 | __marco | I would say no |
| 17:05.42 | sney | you would say, or you can see that it's not there? |
| 17:05.45 | foxide | Vatum: You should have that profile by installing the package. |
| 17:05.48 | __marco | not sure how to see the library version either. I can judge only by the filename (libc-2.28.so) |
| 17:06.21 | __marco | libc-2.28.so: this is the only file that matches libc-* |
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| 17:06.37 | sney | ok. |
| 17:07.00 | Vatum | foxide, i am using the upstream package from ejabberd, i want to see the profile, so i can adapt it. |
| 17:07.06 | Vatum | do i need only the file i mentioned? |
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| 17:08.29 | sney | __marco: if this doesn't work, it's good that you have access to your disk, because backup and reinstall is the next step. download the libc6 2.31-9 deb from https://packages.debian.org/ (or get it from /var/cache/apt/archives if it's already downloaded), unpack it manually, and extract the contents to your disk |
| 17:08.57 | __marco | sney: ok, I try |
| 17:09.03 | __marco | sney: thanks |
| 17:09.06 | sney | np |
| 17:10.30 | sney | if you don't already know, 'ar' is the tool to extract the 2 tarballs from a deb package. ar x foo.deb, and then the contents are in the data tarball |
| 17:11.14 | __marco | I tried dpkg but it also refuses to run with the same message. I try to extract manually |
| 17:14.20 | __marco | sney: it worked! at least ls works now |
| 17:14.33 | __marco | I try to recover the installation |
| 17:14.35 | sney | great! |
| 17:14.36 | __marco | thanks |
| 17:15.52 | Vatum | foxide, ? |
| 17:21.54 | unixbsd | I am using thunderbird, and I would need to have a similar email format like ms outlook. Where to download the genuine calibri fonts or very cloned for thunderbird fonts (i.e. into ~/.fonts/ <-- ttf)?` |
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| 17:31.51 | foxide | I think Carlito and Caladea are the clones. |
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| 17:45.51 | Zereges | Hello, I encountered a problem with installing samba on Debian, and it seems there is some issue with the package (discussed with people at #samba), can someone point me to right direction? I described the problem on serverfault |
| 17:45.52 | Zereges | https://serverfault.com/questions/1050990/samba-installation-fails-missing-directories?noredirect=1#comment1368755_1050990 |
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| 17:52.15 | sney | Zereges: it looks like something is blowing up on postinst, does your server have any apparmor customizations, weird mount options for /var, anything that you changed system-wide after installing? |
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| 17:53.34 | Zereges | sney I don't remember tampering with anything like that, I installed it several years ago |
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| 17:54.19 | abrotman | did someone manually remove config files? |
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| 17:54.55 | Zereges | File /etc/samba/smb.conf is there if that is the question |
| 17:55.54 | __marco | sney: it seems I cannot recover the installation. I try to backup the partition (mainly /opt and /etc) and reinstall Debian |
| 17:56.23 | abrotman | Zereges: does /etc/apparmor.d/samba/ exist? |
| 17:56.37 | sney | __marco: alright. if you want to go straight to testing, the alpha3 from debian.org/devel/debian-installer is pretty reliable. |
| 17:56.53 | Zereges | abrotman yes drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 24 15:08 /etc/apparmor.d/samba/ |
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| 18:00.20 | sney | Zereges: can you reinstall samba-common and samba-common-bin? it looks like they (rather than the samba package itself) are where samba's /var stuff is populated, and may be related here |
| 18:02.58 | Zereges | sney well, that did the trick, seems to be working. Samba installation finished and smbd is running |
| 18:04.18 | Zereges | Thank you |
| 18:04.22 | sney | np |
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| 18:13.41 | __marco | one last question. Do you know how to retrieve the list of installed packages from the filesystem, i.e. not using dpkg -l or similar? |
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| 18:18.15 | elwisp | is there a way to ignore gateway check when doing the network setup in the installer? |
| 18:18.33 | elwisp | Makes it impossible to install when the gateway is in anothe rsubnet |
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| 18:49.56 | Lope | ratrace, sometimes I've done an install where I couldn't use the USB keyboard to enter luks password etc. And I had to add this to make it work: GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="usb usb_keyboard" |
| 18:50.06 | Lope | But then the need to do that, seemed to go away. |
| 18:50.21 | Lope | Do you think it's a good thing to have as a precaution? |
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| 19:35.55 | GenTooMan | I have a USB drive that "didn't mount" I know it's USB ID any suggestion as to find out what it's status is or why it didn't mount? |
| 19:36.26 | sney | watch dmesg output when you plug it in. |
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| 19:48.19 | dob1 | with only linux (debian) pc what are the options for a centralized user management system? I would like to crete the user on the main pc and have the home/whatever for this user on another pc |
| 19:51.41 | ialokin | dob1: you could use ldap for authentication |
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| 19:54.41 | dob1 | ialokin, it seems a bit complicated or am I wrong? |
| 19:56.46 | powerhouse | I am running a debian vm via virtualization from Centos&. I can see my ihpone in Centos7 via "lsusb" but I do not see my Ihpone8 in debia via "lsusb". How can I achieve the desired result? |
| 19:57.08 | dob1 | powerhouse, it's virtualbox? |
| 19:57.21 | sney | powerhouse: you will have to passthrough the usb device from the host hypervisor |
| 19:57.37 | powerhouse | dob1, Virt Viewer. |
| 19:57.55 | powerhouse | sney, okay. Any direction how I can achieve that. This is new for me. |
| 19:58.29 | sney | powerhouse: look up 'qemu usb passthrough' online, there are a lot of docs |
| 19:58.41 | powerhouse | sney, thank you Kindsir |
| 19:58.44 | sney | np. |
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| 20:04.16 | sney | dob1: there's always nis/nfs for the old-school UNIX way of sharing logins and home directories etc. I've never used it but it's probably simpler than ldap+kerberos approaches, and should be secure enough for a couple machines on a local network |
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| 20:13.20 | dob1 | sney, why nfs ? I used it but I just exported directories |
| 20:13.57 | zutat | powerhouse: is it possible to transfer data between an iphone and a linux computer? |
| 20:15.39 | shtrb | yes |
| 20:19.57 | zutat | shtrb: answering me? |
| 20:20.25 | shtrb | yes |
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| 20:20.48 | zutat | shtrb: cool. any pointers? |
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| 20:21.00 | shtrb | yes |
| 20:21.23 | shtrb | 0x8e9c10ff |
| 20:23.52 | GenTooMan | it would be nice to be able to get the physical case serial # to match the USB serial # with western digital drives (sigh). |
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| 20:24.52 | sney | dob1: they integrate together natively, iirc |
| 20:25.58 | shtrb | zutat, you could start with https://wiki.debian.org/iPhone which is little bit outdated and look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IOS too |
| 20:26.35 | zutat | shtrb: thank you |
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| 20:27.13 | dob1 | but ldap on debian means openldap right? |
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| 20:28.03 | shtrb | one of the easiest solution would be slapd (which is openldap) |
| 20:28.51 | jmcnaught | 389-ds is also in Debian. |
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| 20:29.21 | jmcnaught | oh and apacheds, but openldap is probably the most popular. |
| 20:30.11 | sney | and yes, ldap is complicated. but if you learn it once you can put it on your resume. |
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| 20:32.16 | dob1 | any suggestion where to start ? I was looking at tutorial at debian but maybe something else? |
| 20:32.52 | shtrb | there was an amazing tuts at debian-administration RIP |
| 20:33.01 | dob1 | was?? |
| 20:33.31 | shtrb | site is gone , only web archive exist |
| 20:33.52 | dob1 | what was the domain? debian-administration.org? |
| 20:34.10 | shtrb | yes |
| 20:35.15 | dob1 | I take a look, thanks |
| 20:35.59 | shtrb | !ldap |
| 20:35.59 | dpkg | Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) is a client/server protocol for accessing a directory service. Ask me about <openldap>. http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Ldap #ldap on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:36.09 | shtrb | dob1, ^ |
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| 20:51.19 | powerhouse | zutat, I am figuring that out now. I believe so since we can jailbreak the phones. In my Fedora my Iphone was picked up in Bluetooth. Testing now. |
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| 21:31.27 | rander2 | hello all |
| 21:32.08 | dvs | oi |
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| 21:38.21 | dff | anyone here have an asus xg-c100c nic? |
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| 21:39.49 | sney | !anyone |
| 21:39.49 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 21:40.06 | sney | #debian volunteers are good at troubleshooting, even with hardware we don't physically own. |
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| 21:45.36 | dff | i dont have a problem, im considering buying one :) |
| 21:46.25 | dff | ive spent a good hour checking search engine results |
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| 21:49.04 | dff | so my question would be, how well does the drivers or kernal module work for the xg-c100c in debian? |
| 21:50.39 | dff | Driver Package Version 5.0.2.2 to be specific |
| 21:50.48 | rander2 | https://paste.debian.net/1182621/ |
| 21:50.58 | rander2 | how may I solve it ? |
| 21:51.29 | sney | dff: well, google says the actual chip is a marvell aqc-107, which is supported by the 'atlantic' module, which is present in linux 4.19, so you should not need to download any driver from asus. |
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| 21:52.34 | dff | google also finds a fair amount of users with problems with that module and the asus driver |
| 21:52.51 | dff | ill give it go though |
| 21:52.53 | dff | thanks |
| 21:53.02 | sney | I would not recommend that you buy a nic that requires a non-free driver download |
| 21:53.09 | ratrace | rander2: ask #kali |
| 21:54.03 | rander2 | ratrace, it's on invite, and I haven't invite |
| 21:54.17 | sney | the kali channel is #kali-linux |
| 21:54.32 | ratrace | rander2: tough luck |
| 21:54.39 | rander2 | on #kali-linux nobody answer me sorry |
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| 21:55.27 | sney | rander2: yes, because kali is not a desktop OS for newbies, they are not interested in helping you learn linux fundamentals. and #debian is not for derivative distros. |
| 21:55.47 | dff | sney: this nic qualifies then right? https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/networking/device_drivers/ethernet/aquantia/atlantic.html |
| 21:55.49 | sney | you have discovered the thing that all kali newbies eventually discover. |
| 21:56.09 | sney | dff: yes, that's the mainline driver I mentioned |
| 21:56.25 | dff | good stuff |
| 21:56.29 | dff | thanks again |
| 21:56.35 | rander2 | sney, they are interested to advanced questions, not to help the foundamentals |
| 21:57.00 | sney | rander2: yes, that's what I said. |
| 21:57.17 | rander2 | ok, understood thx |
| 21:57.32 | sney | !they don't know |
| 21:57.33 | dpkg | We're sorry your distro's channel isn't being helpful, but that doesn't make it appropriate to use #debian for non-Debian questions. Please go back to your channel and wait patiently for better help, or install Debian and party with us. |
| 21:57.42 | ratrace | rander2: install debian and you won't have issues with libc breakage |
| 21:57.57 | ratrace | that's the answer to "how may I solve it" |
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| 22:30.49 | sponix | anyone having good luck with the nvidia 460.32 from backports and a GTX 900 series card ? |
| 22:33.45 | jhutchins | rander2: Just an irc support tip: Pastebins are good, but you should also post a summary of your problem so people will know if it's worth their time to look./ |
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| 22:53.50 | unixbsd | stella atari: stella -video software space-invaders.a26 does not work. it shows up that an error with framebuffer occurs. Is it possible that this runs on X11 window? |
| 22:54.56 | sney | sponix: I'm sure we don't need to tell you about asking "anyone" questions; 460.32 is fine with the gtx 1070 in this system and the 9xx series are listed as supported, what's your real problem? |
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| 22:57.41 | sponix | sney: well, I now have my GPU down a slot and it seemed to be a solution. BUT, it isn't -- every week or two I still get a GUI freeze with everything underneath still running |
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| 22:58.02 | sponix | sney: still hoping to find a solution |
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| 23:00.49 | rander2 | it's possible use 2 gpu card thogeder |
| 23:01.10 | sponix | rander2: yes. at least to a degree |
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| 23:03.06 | rander2 | in what sense up to a degree ? |
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| 23:19.46 | idlestranger | @sney what cpu are you using? |
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| 23:22.53 | sney | idlestranger: an old amd fx, why? |
| 23:23.18 | idlestranger | some older ryzen models, like the 1700x specifically have c6 state issues that can result in intermittent gui freezing. disabling c6 or c_state handling alltogether (if individual state control is lacking in bios) will fix the freezing issue. |
| 23:23.22 | lloydxmas | anyone have any experience with color calibration? using an nvidia gpu with a dell monitor. understanding that this may not be the correct place to ask, but hey, i'm running debian :) |
| 23:23.33 | idlestranger | i don't recall it being an issue with the old fx line though |
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| 23:25.14 | sney | idlestranger: ah, you're looking for sponix, that's who has a freezing issue |
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| 23:25.37 | idlestranger | ahh my bad, only skimmed |
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