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| 00:31.18 | impermanence | forgive the ignorance and also please ignore the specific name: I'm just curious about the syntax: is something like this allowed: apt-get install terraform-0.12@some_company |
| 00:31.37 | impermanence | in other words is thing@other_thing allowed and if so what does this mean? |
| 00:31.49 | impermanence | it's referencing something at some repo? |
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| 00:33.08 | sney | not with an @ but you can use a /, like with a system that had backports enabled you could do 'apt install linux-image-amd64/buster-backports' to get a newer kernel than the one in stable |
| 00:33.40 | impermanence | sney: basically I'm looking for the analog to this: apk add thing@other_thing |
| 00:33.49 | impermanence | I just don't know what that means in terms of debian. |
| 00:34.24 | sney | anything that you tell apt to install has to already be configured in /etc/apt/sources.list though. there isn't a global database of sources or anything. |
| 00:34.53 | sney | the term is repository, or repo. |
| 00:35.30 | impermanence | sney: I'm aware yes. I'll ask in alpine I guess. |
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| 00:40.14 | impermanence | hm. guess alpine is having some irc issues or something. :-( |
| 00:46.23 | Urk | jmcnaught: This is the result of my permissions check https://paste.debian.net/1189142/ |
| 00:46.45 | Urk | Am I correct that a lack of write capability for both / and user is the problem? |
| 00:47.33 | Urk | As you may recall, Libreoffice is read only, and will not let me save to disk. Earlier it prompted me to edit it before altering a document, but when complete it won't let me save to disk. |
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| 00:50.32 | jmcnaught | Urk: use "groups" command to see which groups you are in. Use "ls -l /path/to/file" to see the permissions on a file. |
| 00:51.14 | Urk | Is what I did with namei -m /media/to/path ok? |
| 00:53.02 | jmcnaught | Urk: sure, it helps show if you have permission to navigate the path to the file. But you should also check the permissions on the file itself. |
| 00:53.59 | Urk | ok |
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| 03:15.50 | tcurdt | sometimes I hate shell scripting. why is it still printing stop? https://gist.github.com/tcurdt/1e7c8c86d7600e2f45a769e091c0559c |
| 03:17.01 | genr8 | this is nonsensical pseudocode |
| 03:17.31 | dvs | line 9 is commented out? |
| 03:17.32 | qman__ | why wouldn't it? you're running a function that runs echo stop |
| 03:17.46 | tcurdt | set -e |
| 03:18.27 | tcurdt | dvs: I tried both. false and exit |
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| 03:22.47 | tcurdt | for those actually wondering - this is about bash error handling |
| 03:23.50 | qman__ | I played with it a little, it works as you expect without the || |
| 03:23.54 | qman__ | add the || and it ignores it |
| 03:24.29 | genr8 | set -e outside of the function, not inside |
| 03:24.42 | qman__ | it does the same in either case |
| 03:25.14 | tcurdt | qman__: doesn't print "done" for me |
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| 03:27.11 | qman__ | https://dpaste.org/TS8J# |
| 03:28.05 | tcurdt | qman__: that's not the same |
| 03:28.37 | qman__ | however, get rid of the ||, and it works https://dpaste.org/wtij |
| 03:29.33 | genr8 | what is this || : supposed to do |
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| 03:30.15 | qman__ | the : does nothing as it's undefined |
| 03:30.28 | tcurdt | qman__: still missing the echo on the last line |
| 03:30.41 | tcurdt | genr8: that's the "better" version of || true |
| 03:31.28 | qman__ | oh, didn't know it was an alias of true - I know you can define a function named : so I didn't know it was anything otherwise |
| 03:32.50 | qman__ | the last echo is not relevant, my script shows the behavior |
| 03:33.29 | qman__ | so, my assumption of how it works here, is that for the purpose of set -e, || is evaluated first |
| 03:33.36 | tcurdt | qman__: it very much is ... because the last echo should always print |
| 03:33.41 | qman__ | so false || true doesn't trigger it |
| 03:34.05 | tcurdt | the idea is bascially similar of a try/catch |
| 03:34.14 | tcurdt | the function should be able to error out |
| 03:34.21 | tcurdt | but the overall script should not |
| 03:34.25 | qman__ | that's not what set -e does - use trap instead |
| 03:35.13 | tcurdt | "set -e" defines what should happen on non-zero exit codes |
| 03:35.41 | qman__ | yes, it breaks if it evaluates a failed command; that's not a try catch block |
| 03:35.56 | qman__ | like I said, false || true isn't a failed command, so it doesn't trigger it |
| 03:39.41 | genr8 | makes sense now |
| 03:40.49 | qman__ | you can change that behavior with set -o pipefail |
| 03:42.09 | qman__ | but I would think that essentially makes || useless |
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| 03:48.48 | tcurdt_ | worth a read https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22009364/is-there-a-try-catch-command-in-bash |
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| 03:52.34 | dgriffi | is anyone here using Pine with local ~/Maildir? |
| 03:52.43 | dgriffi | or Alpine? |
| 03:52.50 | dvs | !anyone |
| 03:52.51 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 03:53.25 | dgriffi | I got it to show me the inbox, but not any of the folders. |
| 03:55.23 | dgriffi | okay.. restating... |
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| 03:56.18 | dgriffi | How can I make Alpine (with the maildir patch) show me the mail folders in ~/Maildir as it does if they're stored in MBOX format in ~/mail? |
| 03:56.42 | dgriffi | I can get it to show me INBOX stored there, but nothing more. |
| 03:56.51 | qing | s there something like nautilus-extension-xterm ? |
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| 04:02.32 | abff | What does that do? |
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| 04:18.51 | Urk | jmcnaught: I just ran groups user since user on my system, and this is what I got https://paste.debian.net/1189155/ |
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| 04:19.33 | Urk | Am I correct that I am already a part of the group I am trying to access? |
| 04:22.48 | Urk | Is there a utility in the repos to search for locked files? I found one to search for open files, but that is it https://dnaeon.github.io/locked-files-linux/ |
| 04:25.56 | jmcnaught | Urk: I do not know the owner:group of the file you are trying to access, lsblk does not help in this case. |
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| 04:27.40 | Urk | Am I correct that the media file is in /user because /user is part of the file name? |
| 04:29.15 | jmcnaught | Urk: /user/ is part of the path to the mounted filesystem because it was probably automounted by udisks2 or similar which mounts things under /media/username/ |
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| 04:32.48 | Urk | I just ran groups while logged in as user, and user came up so user is part of the user group. |
| 04:33.17 | jmcnaught | Urk: the file you are trying to open, does it belong to user:user? |
| 04:33.21 | Urk | I am wondering if this is a lock file problem, and not a problem with not being part of a group? |
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| 04:35.19 | Urk | I am not sure. I am logged in as user, and tried to open and save a file in Libreoffice. |
| 04:36.11 | Urk | Libreoffice is coming up as read only. However, initially there was an optional edit button displayed on the first page, and by the time I was done editing the edit option was gone. |
| 04:36.40 | Urk | Don't recall having this problem with Libreoffice before the hard drive enclosure was moved to the other system for a couple of days. |
| 04:36.45 | jmcnaught | Urk: so you have read permission on the file but not write permission. Can you run "ls -l filename" on the file? |
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| 04:40.18 | Urk | jmcnaught: This is the results of ls-l Assuming my understanding is correct, the file appears to have permissions since all files in the pdq group have rwx. https://paste.debian.net/1189156/ |
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| 04:43.58 | jmcnaught | Urk: that does not show any libreoffice files. I am asking for the output of "ls -l /media/user/56e844af-585d-477e-887b-a1931858c6b6/pdq/LIBREOFFICEFILE but I do not know the name of the file you trying to open. |
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| 04:47.16 | Urk | jmcnaught: I'm wondering if the path to libreoffice is correct. I can't get it to show up. |
| 04:48.22 | jmcnaught | Urk: show the command you used and the output in a paste please |
| 04:51.13 | Urk | https://paste.debian.net/1189157/ |
| 04:52.07 | jmcnaught | Urk: is /media/user/56e844af-585d-477e-887b-a1931858c6b6/pdq/libreoffice the file you are trying to open? The file's name is "libreoffice", really? |
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| 04:53.40 | Urk | jmcnaught: Not sure, but skeptical I have the right path. I would think something like this would be more likely in the /usr/bin |
| 04:54.13 | jmcnaught | Urk: you are obviously confused. What is the name of the file you are trying to open? |
| 04:55.04 | Urk | libreoffice is the file I am trying to open, and apparently it is the right file name because it opened the program at the command line. |
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| 04:55.47 | jmcnaught | Urk: I thought the problem you were having was libreoffice was opening a file in read-only mode, would not let you edit or save the document. What is *that* file's name? |
| 04:58.05 | Urk | libreoffice is the file that I am having trouble with. What I did, I took a copy of a contract for a different guest, and tried to save it to a folder for the guest that needs a contract, and with the hopes of editing it. It is still coming up as read only, though there is a popup at bootup authorizing edit, selecting it doesn't give me "save" privileges. |
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| 04:59.16 | jmcnaught | Urk: the problem is not libreoffice, the problem is lacking permissions on the document file you are trying to save. |
| 04:59.39 | Urk | jmcnaught> I just noticed that because another instance of the program doesn't have the problem. |
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| 05:01.12 | Urk | This is the file name with the problem 03-12-2021_Residentia-Lease-Agreement.odt (read-only) - LibreOffice Writer |
| 05:02.02 | jmcnaught | And that file is in the /media/user/56e844af-585d-477e-887b-a1931858c6b6/pdq/ directory? |
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| 05:04.06 | Urk | jmcnaught: Here is an interesting situation. Even though another instance/date of the program has write privileges, any attempt at saving with the files name 03-12-2021,etc ends up with Error saving the document 05-25-2020_Residential-Lease-Agreement: |
| 05:04.06 | Urk | Object not accessible. |
| 05:04.06 | Urk | The object cannot be accessed |
| 05:04.06 | Urk | due to insufficient user rights. |
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| 05:04.23 | spinningCat | is there a way totally remove this error ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable |
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| 05:05.25 | Urk | jmcnaught: It would have to be in the /media/user/56e844af-585d-477e-887b-a1931858c6b6/pdq/ since all of the files are in /pdq |
| 05:05.42 | Urk | However, at login I logged in under /user |
| 05:05.59 | themill | spinningCat: you might want some context there... I'm guessing that you're running apt with a broken PATH |
| 05:06.58 | jmcnaught | Urk: the name of the directory does not matter. I think you need to read about and understand Linux/UNIX users, groups, and permissions. It is pretty clear that the filesystem mounted at /media/user/⦠used to be /home on another computer, and the directories and their files are owned by different users. |
| 05:06.59 | spinningCat | dpkg -i package i did themill |
| 05:06.59 | dpkg | package package i did themill is already installed |
| 05:07.22 | spinningCat | so i try to install package |
| 05:07.31 | themill | spinningCat: so that would mean you're running dpkg with a broken PATH |
| 05:07.51 | spinningCat | i am in the path that has the package |
| 05:08.06 | themill | PATH is an environment variable |
| 05:08.49 | spinningCat | i mean i download google-chrome package and i go to download/ and execute dpkg package |
| 05:08.52 | themill | returns to wild guessing in the absence of actual data |
| 05:08.54 | themill | !buster su |
| 05:08.55 | dpkg | In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for details. |
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| 05:09.46 | themill | (also, "apt install ./foo.deb" is better than "dpkg -i foo.deb") |
| 05:09.52 | Urk | jmcnaught: Here is the message I get https://paste.debian.net/1189161/ |
| 05:10.30 | spinningCat | themill, that fixed the error export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin i am not sure it is valid approach |
| 05:11.06 | Urk | jmcnaught: The data I am trying to access has been on the same hard drive enclosure that was used on both laptop so I am not sure how this could have happened. |
| 05:11.09 | themill | spinningCat: the better approach is what dpkg sid. |
| 05:11.24 | themill | or just use sudo |
| 05:11.32 | Urk | In both cases, I accessed the files by going into the area "other locations". |
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| 05:13.35 | spinningCat | okay su -l |
| 05:13.37 | spinningCat | thanks |
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| 05:25.46 | Urk | Here is a more accurate path, but still indicates no permissions. https://paste.debian.net/1189165/ |
| 05:26.50 | themill | you need to read that output first, I think |
| 05:29.36 | abff | Urk do you see how its trying to read multiple files? ls thinks you asked for two files because one of your directories has a space in it, and spaces are how command line utilities seperate arguments |
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| 05:31.46 | abff | whenever a file or a directory has a space in it's name you should do one of the following: put a backslash \ before the space 'ls -l /your/file/is\ in/here.odt', or encapsulate the path/file in quotes ' or " |
| 05:32.06 | abff | now bash differentiates the two quotes and I forget how |
| 05:32.16 | abff | so I usually opt to use the backslash |
| 05:33.27 | Urk | abff: I fixed the space problem, but still get the same error https://paste.debian.net/1189167/ |
| 05:34.01 | jmcnaught | Urk: are you using tab completion to help type in the file name? |
| 05:34.24 | Urk | jmcnaught": yes |
| 05:35.27 | Urk | And I have been using home, and end to edit the commands in front of the file name. |
| 05:36.41 | themill | that is clearly not true. One of them has a space "David Borders" and the other has a dash "David-Borders" |
| 05:36.57 | jmcnaught | Urk: did you rename the directory that had a space in it, or did you just replace the space with a dash in the command you used? |
| 05:37.08 | themill | *snap* |
| 05:37.53 | Urk | jmcnaught: I placed a hyphen in the name so that the file was renamed. |
| 05:38.24 | Urk | directory was renamed. |
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| 05:41.16 | Urk | There doesn't seem to be a problem with the other folders so I have no idea how this happened. I have been working with the hard drive enclosure with no problem prior to now. |
| 05:43.37 | Urk | I think something is wrong with the folder. The files works fine if it is removed from the folder. |
| 05:44.37 | Urk | I can't rename the file, nor move it to trash. |
| 05:45.34 | Urk | I can't see the permissions of the file as well. |
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| 05:47.52 | themill | I suspect because that's not the file |
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| 05:49.24 | Urk | themill: Any idea what is wrong with this folder? Or how to fix it? I ran sudo name -i, and get command not found. |
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| 05:50.11 | Urk | jmcnaught: now that I understand your question better, I placed hyphens in the name, and didn't rename the directory. The directory can not be renamed because of permissions problem. |
| 05:52.35 | themill | perhaps you meant "namei" not "name -i"; if you're running these commands with a file path that you've just made up by putting a - in there (without actually renaming the directory), then they're not going to work |
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| 05:55.25 | Urk | themill: Thanks The list came up, but no permission information with any of the directories. |
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| 05:56.06 | themill | Urk: did you want it to? |
| 05:56.38 | themill | (you might want to ask it to do so in that case) |
| 05:57.04 | Urk | themill: yes, but I get an error "no such file or directory" for the David Borders directory. I have no idea why this error is showing up. https://paste.debian.net/1189171/ |
| 05:57.36 | themill | Urk: would that be because it's not "David-Borders" it is "David Borders"? |
| 05:58.46 | Urk | https://paste.debian.net/1189172/ |
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| 06:00.26 | Urk | themill: If I remove the hyphen then only the last name is recognized. And I did try it to see what happened, and get the same error either way. |
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| 06:01.53 | themill | you can't just pretend that the directory name has a hyphen instead of a space like htat |
| 06:02.39 | Urk | themill: There should be a way to implement the command recursively so that I can get inside the directories. |
| 06:03.16 | themill | "the command"? |
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| 06:05.21 | themill | bruteforce would be « find /media/user/56e844af-585d-477e-887b-a1931858c6b6/pdq/Documents/Crescent-City-Property/Tenants/2021/ -name 03-12-2021_Residentia-Lease-Agreement.odt -exec namei -m {} + » |
| 06:06.40 | Urk | I don't think the path is right because III is missing from the end of David Borders. However, I still get command not found when running diagnostics. |
| 06:08.03 | Urk | I got in, and there is a lack of write permission. The path was not right because the folder is actually David Borders III and I was only searching for David Borders. |
| 06:08.12 | themill | *sigh* |
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| 06:08.35 | themill | you were asked several times if the path was correct and if you had been using tab completion |
| 06:09.14 | Urk | themil: maybe I am not as smart as I am supposed to be . . . haha |
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| 06:11.42 | Urk | themill: still read only access. |
| 06:13.24 | Urk | themill: At this point I have no idea what is wrong. Users and groups have read and write permissions, but it hasn't changed anything. |
| 06:13.42 | themill | pastebin or it didn't happen |
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| 06:17.11 | Urk | themill: I get a new error now, and it says the folder is locked. I'm wondering if there was more than one problem with this folder? I will research on how to get rid of the lock file tomorrow, and just worry about finishing the agreement tonight. |
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| 08:01.16 | NetTerminalGene | guys, pulseaudio uses about 5% CPU after launching firefox (i set firefox to load lots of site at launch) after restarting pulseaudio service, it turns back to normal (doesn't consume CPU) |
| 08:01.35 | NetTerminalGene | what should i do? |
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| 08:16.11 | ratrace | NetTerminalGene: nothing? Why do you think this is abnormal or something to deal with? |
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| 08:23.26 | NetTerminalGene | ratrace: it wasn't like that before. and is it normal to pulseaudio consume cpu after launching firefox? |
| 08:23.44 | NetTerminalGene | and after restarting service stop consuming? |
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| 08:24.03 | NetTerminalGene | there is a problem obviously |
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| 08:27.04 | ratrace | NetTerminalGene: based on information you gave, I'd say it's not hard to imagine loading "lots of sites at launch" would do something with PA that caused it to look like it's consuming 5% of CPU |
| 08:27.54 | ratrace | and when you say it wasn't like that "before"... before what? |
| 08:30.44 | NetTerminalGene | ratrace: guess what |
| 08:31.02 | ratrace | what |
| 08:31.26 | NetTerminalGene | what do i mean with "before"? guess what |
| 08:31.58 | ratrace | rolls a dice |
| 08:32.07 | NetTerminalGene | what is the first thing you think? |
| 08:32.59 | ratrace | I'm thinking if you need help with something, spell it out, otherwise I got better things to do. |
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| 08:34.25 | NetTerminalGene | ratrace: go and do better things, please |
| 08:34.40 | ratrace | also, you could strace pulseaudio by pid and see what it's doing. I don't know PA internals, but running that as an example now, I can see it spends most of its time ppoll()'ing for events. slower when there's nothing playing audio, and faster when something (firefox) is |
| 08:34.59 | ratrace | NetTerminalGene: yup, will do. thanks for playing. |
| 08:35.11 | NetTerminalGene | playing? |
| 08:35.39 | NetTerminalGene | you're not helpful |
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| 08:36.53 | ratrace | lol *I* am not helpful? and not you, playing guessing games instead of stating clearly what your problem is? right. |
| 08:37.07 | ratrace | play it again, Sam. |
| 08:39.01 | NetTerminalGene | you just make things difficult. not helpful |
| 08:39.55 | ratrace | play some more guessing games. |
| 08:42.12 | NetTerminalGene | before means, there was a point where pulseaudio wasn't consuming CPU after launch. |
| 08:42.47 | NetTerminalGene | and after that point it started consuming |
| 08:43.08 | NetTerminalGene | if i knew what it was, i would figure out why, right? |
| 08:44.00 | mesaboogie | you could delete pulse's config files in your $USER dir. |
| 08:44.07 | mesaboogie | then restart pulse |
| 08:44.42 | mesaboogie | ~/.config/pulse/ |
| 08:44.54 | NetTerminalGene | mesaboogie: ~/.config/pulse? |
| 08:45.12 | mesaboogie | I've had that "cure" pulse many times. |
| 08:45.22 | mesaboogie | deleting that directory , then restart pulse. |
| 08:45.50 | NetTerminalGene | mesaboogie: ok. i will try. i hope it won't ruin my system |
| 08:46.00 | mesaboogie | you could "mv" it if you are paranoid. I've never had ill effects from that action. |
| 08:46.18 | NetTerminalGene | will do |
| 08:46.26 | mesaboogie | no it will not ruin your system. just don't do it as root and type the wrong dir/ |
| 08:46.43 | mesaboogie | delete it as your current $USER |
| 08:46.48 | NetTerminalGene | ok |
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| 10:36.53 | ratrace | try a systemd .timer instead |
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| 10:38.27 | GNU\colossus | and use an editor with syntax highlighting |
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| 11:24.18 | ratrace | Question too vague. |
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| 11:50.54 | aypea[0] | so I just upgraded to bullseye and I have a weird issue with named. as soon as it starts systemd tells it to shut down. can anyone help me with where to look? I'm running out of ideas and we searches are being less than fruitful |
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| 11:54.48 | ratrace | aypea[0]: I'd start with the system logs. journalctl to see if systemd is complaining about things, and you can configure bind for explicit logging |
| 11:57.31 | aypea[0] | ratrace: heh. only thing it says is 'systemd[1]: named.service: Succeeded.' after it happily killed it. before that not a peep of an error from either it or bind. |
| 11:57.53 | aypea[0] | infact systemd is issuing an rndc stop as part of the start. it's being very polite about it |
| 11:58.42 | ratrace | surely there's something about it in the logs. doesn't make sense systemd would actively call rndc to stop it |
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| 11:59.13 | aypea[0] | bind doesn't even last a second. start, load and stop all happen within the one second. |
| 11:59.32 | ratrace | aypea[0]: please pastebin the relevant entries in the journal. see if there's any logging for journalctl -u bind9.service |
| 11:59.45 | ratrace | and finally, you can configure bind with an explicit log of its own, if the above doesn't produce anything relevant |
| 12:00.10 | ratrace | aypea[0]: also please look up this: journalctl _TRANSPORT=audit | grep bind |
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| 12:00.48 | Franciman | Hi, why does buster no longer ship visualboyadvance-gtk package? |
| 12:01.12 | aypea[0] | looking at the other stuff but I did 'journalctl _TRANSPORT=audit | grep named' and res=success throughout. |
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| 12:06.19 | aypea[0] | ratrace: ok. fixed. you actually helped but I can't point to a specific thing you did. just all of it made me think of one more thing. :) it appears that I had customised ExecStart via an /etc/systemd override and whilst it worked well under buster, under bullseye it broke as per description. |
| 12:06.25 | aypea[0] | so... thanks :) |
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| 12:08.02 | ratrace | aypea[0]: well you enver posted any description or log entry, but ... okay, you're welcome I suppose :) |
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| 12:08.40 | aypea[0] | ratrace: I was in the process of doing that when I thought to check the override and that fixed it :) |
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| 12:11.49 | aypea[0] | I think it may have been seeing that it couldn't load the DNSSEC for the root zone (.) that I saw from journalctl -u bind9.service (but didn't see in syslog land cos I'm blind). |
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| 12:41.56 | themill | Franciman: it was never in the buster release; it was removed because it doesn't work with any recent Gtk versions |
| 12:42.10 | Franciman | oh, sad |
| 12:42.16 | Franciman | it is a bit hard to use vba without the gui |
| 12:42.25 | Franciman | I can not understand where I can read docs for the confi |
| 12:42.26 | Franciman | config |
| 12:42.44 | Franciman | I would like to use vba with my joystick |
| 12:44.07 | themill | visualboyadvance still has a GUI? |
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| 12:44.42 | themill | Doesn't it have the SDL interface? |
| 12:46.57 | Franciman | yep |
| 12:47.00 | Franciman | but it is just the game |
| 12:47.02 | Franciman | how do I configure it? |
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| 12:47.47 | themill | no idea, I've never used it |
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| 13:02.05 | abff | Franciman I've been using mednafen, it's similar with no gui but the documentation is plentiful and configuring key presses and controllers is easy |
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| 13:37.14 | isapgswell | how to disable direct rendering? intel |
| 13:40.33 | Franciman | thanks abff |
| 13:41.43 | abff | Franciman: if you want more gui interface, I recommend retroarch, it 's a whole emulation ecosystem with a gui and it's own package manager (specifically for emulators) |
| 13:44.46 | abff | the downside to retro arch is that it has -so many- features it's probably outside of a single system's needs, which is why I like mednafen I can easily just create a shortcut keyboard command to boot up whatever game I'm playing right now |
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| 14:26.17 | festerdam | Hi, all. |
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| 14:31.50 | festerdam | I have a thinkpad E540, whose touchpad sometimes gets jittery and seems to be detecting touches when there are none. Also happens on Windows. It often gets solved by cleaning the pad with alcohol. I think it could be sebum building up on the surface. Is there a way to change the touchpad's tolerance to input? |
| 14:32.07 | Franciman | abff, I know it, thanks, yeh I wanted to stay lite enough :P |
| 14:32.14 | Franciman | I just wanted to play some megaman games ahahah |
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| 14:59.26 | rpifan | so im trying to install a package from a ppa since there is no other way of doing so |
| 14:59.28 | rpifan | i add the ppa rep |
| 14:59.30 | rpifan | and it accpets it |
| 14:59.40 | rpifan | but when i go for apt install it says the package cannot be found |
| 14:59.44 | rpifan | and i dont get what hte issue could be |
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| 15:02.54 | x10 | ran apt-get update? |
| 15:03.22 | rpifan | yea |
| 15:04.08 | abrotman | rpifan: does it match your architecture? |
| 15:04.56 | rpifan | https://launchpad.net/~ernstp/+archive/ubuntu/mesarc |
| 15:05.01 | rpifan | and i have amd64 |
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| 15:05.53 | abrotman | rpifan: did you try apt-cache search <pkgname> ? |
| 15:06.52 | rpifan | shows up as empty |
| 15:07.49 | rpifan | when i do apt update it seems to not show the ppa in the list of sources |
| 15:07.55 | rpifan | it's as if its not reading it at all |
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| 15:08.21 | rpifan | despite the fact that it clearly adds it |
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| 15:12.14 | rpifan | in the sources.list it says deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ernstp/mesarc/ubuntu hirsute main |
| 15:12.16 | rpifan | is that correct |
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| 15:16.39 | Budd | Is there a way to create a network configuration for a wildcard interface? Use case: When I plug a USB adapter in (any adapter, any port), I want to configure it for my mesh network. |
| 15:17.01 | betuxy | Hey guys, after disabling the serverside encryption on my nextcloud, apache doesnt start anymore and gives me this error: /usr/sbin/apachectl: 99: ulimit: error setting limit (Operation not permitted), i already set the ulimit (8192) in limits.conf according to a website but that didnt help. DO you have any ideas? |
| 15:17.27 | betuxy | ulimit -n gives 819, the whole thing is running in an systemd-nspawn container |
| 15:17.58 | ratrace | Budd: wildcard no, but you can configure allow-hotplug NIC |
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| 15:18.18 | rpifan | i found the issue |
| 15:18.20 | rpifan | its the wrong release |
| 15:18.26 | Deknos | is anyone of you able to install python3-pylibacl? |
| 15:18.33 | ratrace | Budd: eg I have that for a wifi usb stick. I plug it in, it sets up as configured. |
| 15:18.35 | Deknos | when i want to import it in ipython it's not there |
| 15:18.42 | Deknos | s/install/use/; |
| 15:18.45 | Deknos | it's installable |
| 15:18.59 | ratrace | rpifan: what are you trying to do? install a custom mesa from a ppa? |
| 15:19.13 | rpifan | no the corectrl program |
| 15:19.15 | rpifan | but i found the issue |
| 15:19.18 | rpifan | look at the releasae |
| 15:19.29 | rpifan | for hirsuite there is only the mesage package |
| 15:19.39 | rpifan | but if you move it down to groovy the package is there |
| 15:20.11 | ratrace | rpifan: I'm very curious to know if you can actually install and run what you want from there. |
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| 15:22.28 | ratrace | Deknos: there's just a single .so in the python "package" .. is that expected? |
| 15:25.00 | Budd | ratrace: Sure, the hotplug part works fine, but it seems the current/future naming scheme is by bus location, so if the interface shows up in a new place, it won't be recognized (and my needs are simple; same statuc ipv6 address on all interfaces) |
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| 15:25.55 | rpifan | ii got it to work |
| 15:25.57 | Deknos | ratrace, i am also astonished. but "import posix1e" works, which is the module according to a github issue...." |
| 15:25.58 | Deknos | funny. |
| 15:25.59 | rpifan | but it was a huge pain in the ass |
| 15:26.00 | Budd | I suppose I can just generate a big bunch of prospective interface configs, but that lacks elegance. |
| 15:26.00 | rpifan | sad |
| 15:27.04 | Budd | Of course now that I read the docs, it looks like maybe USB devices will be MAC-named for just this reason. |
| 15:27.29 | ratrace | Budd: if you use systemd-networkd, you can refer to it via its MAC address, and set a custom name |
| 15:27.42 | ratrace | I'm not sure how to do that with interfaces(5) |
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| 15:28.01 | Ark74 | hello guys! |
| 15:28.02 | Budd | I haven't learned about ssytemd-networkd; I'll read up. |
| 15:28.04 | ratrace | Deknos: then what's the problem? |
| 15:29.08 | ratrace | Budd: also... could be possible to bind the interaface by MAC via udev, now that I think about it, so you can keep using it with interfaces(5) |
| 15:29.58 | ratrace | Budd: something like a custom rule like this: SUBSYSTEMD=="net", ATTR{address}==" mac address here", NAME="wifi0_or_whatever" |
| 15:30.09 | ratrace | %s/SUBSYSTEMD/SUBSYSTEM/ |
| 15:30.28 | Ark74 | Anyone with experience on control/rules files, I'm trying to custom build sugar-artwork with sbuild, but for some reason even when it's set as dependencies python 3, it will try to use python 2 and failing |
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| 15:32.34 | Budd | ratrace: thanks; I'm trying to set up something that would work for any MAC. A quick read of systemd-networkd looks like it has a [Match] section that might do everything I need. |
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| 15:33.38 | ratrace | Budd: yea but you can't have a wildcard match |
| 15:33.56 | ratrace | don't you have an onboard eth NIC that would be messed up that way? |
| 15:34.54 | Budd | ratrace: I'm setting up machines that just slap a /128 IPv6 address on every interface and run babeld for routing. |
| 15:35.24 | Budd | So any onboard NIC uses the same settings. |
| 15:35.29 | ratrace | wh... why /128. standard is /64 subnet |
| 15:36.02 | ratrace | or you mean... on single machine? |
| 15:37.32 | Budd | Each physical machine has a unique /128 that it uses for all its interfaces. Often includes an IBSS link, which doesn't behave like a regular subnet (some nodes can't see each other). |
| 15:38.54 | ratrace | wait... what do you mean uses a /128 for all its interfaces? you're assigning the same IPv6 to all the NICs on the machine? |
| 15:39.01 | Deknos | ratrace, i just found out about it, after wanting to use it. |
| 15:39.03 | Budd | Works great for installing a data logger/camera outside - it doesn't have to be in range of any particular machine; as long as it's in range of any other machine. |
| 15:39.47 | Budd | ratrace: yes. As far as I know, it's kosher, and certainly works fine (on about 10 systems for a few years). |
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| 15:40.26 | Budd | (using the same /128 for each interface, that is) |
| 15:40.27 | ratrace | that's far from "kosher" |
| 15:41.11 | ratrace | standard IPv6 allocation is /64. and typically you'd have individual addresses from that /64 for each NIC on the machine |
| 15:41.26 | Budd | Sure. |
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| 15:48.21 | leibniz | this is a debian issue |
| 15:50.04 | Budd | I agree it would be unusual (and probably broken) to use the same /64 address on two interfaces, but when each node is a router in a mesh there's no clean cluster I can treat as a /64 subnet. |
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| 15:54.04 | ratrace | Budd: I have no idea how that would even work on linux, having multiple NICs with teh same IP |
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| 15:56.27 | Budd | I realize this is getting off-topic, but I didn't have to do anything odd; static /128 addresses for each interface (no static gateway), run babeld, and Bob's my uncle. |
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| 17:08.15 | Ooze | Hi. Can I install a non-free package from the debian repo w/o adding non-free to my sourcelist? |
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| 17:11.21 | rudi_s | Ooze: No. You have to add it at least temporarily. |
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| 17:11.51 | rudi_s | (Of course you could download the .deb manually, verify its checksum and install it. But that has the same effect as manually adding non-free to your sources.) |
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| 17:13.17 | oerheks | without adding, you will not get updates |
| 17:13.51 | n4dir | the clear advantage of having the non-free repo enabled is that for the given package you will get updates. And i see no harm in having it enabled, as long you install a non-free package anyway |
| 17:14.16 | n4dir | ups, oerheks already said it |
| 17:14.31 | Ooze | Okay, thanks guys |
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| 17:23.11 | tete_ | hi, is debian 11 now in hard freeze? |
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| 18:59.07 | bifunc2 | Hi. Debian has reproducible builds (at least for 99.9% of everything). No other distro has it! So how can anyone serious about OSS recommend any other distro to me? Without reproducible builds, "open source" is meaningless because nobody knows the binaries are coming from the source code they're supposed to be coming from! |
| 18:59.18 | bifunc2 | Do I have this figured out right? |
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| 19:00.06 | bifunc2 | They keep talking about all sorts of distros, Arch and whatnot, but it's all only "open source" in name only. If you only get final binaries, what's the point? |
| 19:01.56 | sney | that's the idea, though it's still a relatively new concept, and afaict debian isn't at "99.9% of everything" either as it's still a work in progress: https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds |
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| 19:02.59 | bifunc2 | hardly any "open source" fanboy talks about this issue and in practice they just download compiled images. why are they so trusting? this has been going on for decades now. truly strange isn't it? |
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| 19:06.48 | dg1727 | I'm running a Debian-derived OS and I seem to be affected by https://github.com/gwsw/less/issues/108 which is suggested to be an issue in Debian tty driver |
| 19:07.10 | dg1727 | Is there possibly a recent regression in the kernel relating to this? |
| 19:07.22 | sney | !based on debian |
| 19:07.22 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 19:08.05 | EdePopede | bifunc2: someone was mentioning iLinux somewhere recently, had a look at their website and forum. looks more like a windows on linux kernel, at least he sounds as he wouldn't care. |
| 19:08.06 | sney | debian's kernel images are as close to upstream as possible, so if there's a driver issue in debian, it's almost definitely present in the kernel.org source as well |
| 19:08.08 | petn-randall | bifunc2: Gentoo is a thing. While reproducible builds are cool, and I fully support it, "open source" still has meaning even without it. I mean, we've been doing it like that for the last 30+ years. |
| 19:09.18 | petn-randall | dg1727: File a bug with your OS, and if it also affects Debian, they'll probably help fixing it on Debian, too. |
| 19:09.21 | bifunc2 | petn-randall what i think is strange is everyone thinks "like that" is just fine and they've been thinking that for decades |
| 19:09.33 | dg1727 | sney: The person who raised that GitHub issue claimed to be running Debian Buster. I can try other support avenues. |
| 19:09.49 | bifunc2 | in practice, is it easier to detect unwanted stuff in a binary than i imagine? |
| 19:09.54 | bifunc2 | that could explain it maybe |
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| 19:10.22 | bifunc2 | but that makes no sense because than you might as well use macos or windows |
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| 19:10.54 | petn-randall | bifunc2: Because doing reproducible builds is *hard*, and it's only become more relevant with cloud build servers. And yes, you can disassemble binaries and analyze their behaviour. |
| 19:11.10 | tete_ | is debian 11 in hard freeze? just wondering, i dont like big changes and would like to switch my desktop to debian 11 |
| 19:11.13 | Mister00X | bifunc2: how would you ensure that even with reproducible builds that noone tempered the hardware? |
| 19:11.16 | petn-randall | bifunc2: I mean, you can also detect any other kinds of malware without the source. |
| 19:11.50 | petn-randall | tete_: https://release.debian.org/bullseye/freeze_policy.html |
| 19:12.02 | petn-randall | It's in hard freeze since yesterday. |
| 19:12.15 | tete_ | ok thanks, so no big changes to expect anymore, right? |
| 19:12.52 | petn-randall | tete_: nope. But RC bugs might take longer to fix for now, since any fix has to be manually reviewed. |
| 19:13.00 | tete_ | thanks |
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| 19:19.02 | bifunc2 | petn-randall hmm ok.. |
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| 20:11.06 | impermanence | I don't understand priority alternatives |
| 20:11.26 | impermanence | is it the highest or lowest that has the highest priority? |
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| 20:11.55 | impermanence | and also does it *matter* which numbers I use? I mean can I use 1,2,3 or 12,20,30 or 700,800,900 or...? |
| 20:12.27 | ratrace | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.31 | ratrace | whoops |
| 20:12.55 | impermanence | like why do people even use 10? Why not just 1,2,3,4,5 lol. |
| 20:13.59 | tomreyn | impermanence: are you referring to apt repository priorities? |
| 20:14.23 | tomreyn | or the (software) alternatives system? |
| 20:14.35 | tomreyn | or something else entirely? |
| 20:15.20 | impermanence | update-alternatives |
| 20:15.32 | impermanence | so yes the software alternatives |
| 20:15.48 | impermanence | it just seems arbitrary in a sense and I suppose it basically is... |
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| 20:18.29 | tomreyn | "Each alternative has a priority associated with it. When a link group is in automatic mode, the alternatives pointed to by members of the group will be those which have the highest priority." |
| 20:18.50 | tomreyn | yes, it's abitraryily chosen values, it just matters hwich one is higher and which one is lower. |
| 20:19.12 | impermanence | thx |
| 20:19.25 | tomreyn | the quote above is from the update-alternatives(1) manual |
| 20:19.29 | tomreyn | !man |
| 20:19.29 | dpkg | man is, like, a little guy that knows everything about Linux... just do "man commandname" and he will teach you all about commandname. You can search for the appropriate man page with "apropos term". Enable <tab completion> in your shell to fill in the man page names. Man pages are available online too, ask me about <dmp>. See also <docs> <grounding>. |
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| 20:21.52 | impermanence | tomreyn: I know. I'm just a bit hyper. |
| 20:22.15 | impermanence | but yeah reading would be good for me. anyway back to work. |
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| 20:54.29 | petn-randall | impermanence: 1,2,3,4,5 would not be optimal, because if you want to add your own in between, you'd have to change all the other around. Other than that, it's just highest number wins. |
| 20:54.59 | impermanence | huh. |
| 20:56.19 | petn-randall | That's why back in the day, when you programmed on the C64 in BASIC, you numbered every line in increments of 10, to allow some room for bugfixes ;) |
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| 21:00.20 | impermanence | ha |
| 21:00.29 | impermanence | got damn thas a lotta bugs |
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| 21:00.48 | impermanence | respect to the OGs though |
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| 21:09.09 | tcurdt | how do I find the systemd service that started a certain process? |
| 21:10.31 | jmcnaught | tcurdt: "systemctl status PID" |
| 21:10.35 | petn-randall | tcurdt: `systemctl status <PID>` will show you the status of ... yeah |
| 21:10.43 | tcurdt | thx! |
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| 21:11.02 | petn-randall | jmcnaught: I want a rematch! Best of three! ;) |
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| 21:20.29 | tcurdt | I need to restart dhclient (during automation with ansible) as I change the config ... there is no dhclient service, instead there are services for the invididual interfaces that differ on the various machines |
| 21:20.33 | tcurdt | it seems the most standardize way would be to restart the networking service |
| 21:21.01 | tcurdt | is there a better a way? |
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| 21:21.41 | tcurdt | restarting networking during a remote session feels a bit risky |
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| 21:24.02 | jmcnaught | tcurdt: are you using auto or allow-hotplug for your interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 21:26.44 | tcurdt | "auto eth0" |
| 21:28.00 | jmcnaught | tcurdt: I have found that interfaces marked auto get a dhclient that is started/owned by networking.service, but interfaces marked allow-hotplug get a dhclient process that is owned by ifup@eth0.service (or whatever interfaces name) |
| 21:28.27 | jmcnaught | but maybe I'm wrong about that distinction |
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| 21:31.21 | petn-randall | tcurdt: You can run `ifdown <if> && ifup <if>` to bring up the interface with the new config. But if that's your link you're connecting with, that's of course risky. |
| 21:32.05 | petn-randall | tcurdt: One safer way is to just reboot instead, or use something like network-manager that is more robust/flexible in that regard. |
| 21:32.21 | tcurdt | it seems like with the auto interfaces dhclient is still coming from ifup@eth0.service for me |
| 21:32.38 | tcurdt | I think I found a decent workaround |
| 21:32.54 | tcurdt | I just write out the resolv.conf as well |
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| 21:33.11 | tcurdt | on a restart/reboot it will be overwritten all should be ok |
| 21:33.23 | tcurdt | for my case it should be ok |
| 21:33.46 | petn-randall | dhclient will overwrite /etc/resolv.conf when the dhcp lease updates. |
| 21:34.05 | petn-randall | *will also |
| 21:34.05 | tcurdt | but still feels a little awkward I cannot just easily restart it myself |
| 21:34.10 | tcurdt | petn-randall: that's the idea |
| 21:34.25 | tcurdt | I basically just write a temp version of it myself |
| 21:35.13 | tcurdt | then after a reboot all should be the way I want it |
| 21:35.55 | tcurdt | (or after a restart of networking for that matter) |
| 21:36.57 | petn-randall | I vaguely remember there was a factoid about restarting the network... :/ |
| 21:37.57 | tcurdt | if you happen to remember - please let me know :) |
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| 21:39.09 | jmcnaught | !restart networking |
| 21:39.09 | dpkg | From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, the use of the networking init script to reload networking configuration («/etc/init.d/networking restart») is discouraged. Instead, perform the actions you really want. Re-apply changes from /etc/network/interfaces: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0. Remove all iptables rules: iptables -F. See also <mdblows>. |
| 21:39.36 | petn-randall | IIRC the only way to restart the network with ifupdown is bringing the interface down and up again. But IIRC it's easier to do with network-manager. |
| 21:40.16 | petn-randall | jmcnaught: That's the one! I've been poking dpkg for the last few minutes, it slipped my mind ... |
| 21:40.40 | petn-randall | jmcnaught: 2:0! Best of five? ;) |
| 21:43.00 | jmcnaught | petn-randall: that factoid hasn't been edited since 2014, so maybe things are different now. From what I understood it's better to "ifdown eth0"; edit /e/n/i; then "ifup eth0" if you need to make changes, because ifup and ifdown act on the contents of /e/n/i which does not necessarily reflect the current state of the interface. |
| 21:43.20 | jmcnaught | petn-randall: restarting networking probably works most of the time though |
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| 21:45.22 | petn-randall | jmcnaught: That was my thought, too. But IIRC newer ifupdown saves state now, so edit /e/n/i, ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 should work now. Would even be interesting to test. |
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| 21:47.21 | tcurdt | dealing with interfaces themself like this isn't really particular universal though ... fine for interactive - but feels like more hassle for automation |
| 21:47.34 | tcurdt | I guess I just stick with work around |
| 21:47.48 | tcurdt | *my |
| 21:49.30 | petn-randall | tcurdt: I use the ansible nmcli module for that, and just ignore ifupdown for the most part. |
| 21:50.07 | tcurdt | searches for nmcli |
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| 21:50.48 | tcurdt | I see |
| 21:51.45 | jmcnaught | petn-randall: I just tested by booting a VM with enp1s0 in /e/n/i configured for DHCP. I edited /e/n/i to set enp1s0 to static, did "ifdown enp1s0 && ifup enp1s0" and it does reconfigured the interface, but it leaves dhclient running. |
| 21:52.26 | tcurdt | petn-randall: well, the networking is slightly different for installing on a cloud image vs e.g. vagrant ... hence I would ideally leave the interfaces alone altogether |
| 21:53.42 | tcurdt | it doesn't even restart/reload it? |
| 21:53.45 | tcurdt | jmcnaught: |
| 21:53.59 | tcurdt | --^ |
| 21:54.45 | jmcnaught | tcurdt: I have seen this happen to people in #debian where they changed /e/n/i from dhcp to static, but have not rebooted yet, and they had a left-over dhclient process hanging out periodically reconfiguring the interface |
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| 22:01.35 | DeaDSouL | Hello, how can I edit the efi grub menu entries? Iâm on debian 10 |
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| 22:04.36 | petn-randall | jmcnaught: Is that on Debian 10? |
| 22:04.52 | petn-randall | DeaDSouL: It depends a bit what you want to do. |
| 22:05.43 | jmcnaught | petn-randall: yes |
| 22:06.15 | petn-randall | jmcnaught: Ah, good to know. |
| 22:06.31 | DeaDSouL | petn-randall: I need to add this parameter ârootflags=subvol=rootfsâ |
| 22:06.59 | petn-randall | DeaDSouL: That I'd put into /etc/default/grub, and then run `update-grub` for it to apply. |
| 22:07.27 | DeaDSouL | Thanks petn-randall |
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| 22:33.27 | wuffi600 | hello all! |
| 22:34.15 | ax562 | hi |
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| 22:39.29 | HelloShi1ty | Hello. How do I figure out which web server do I have installed? |
| 22:39.39 | HelloShi1ty | I'm running Debian Buster, btw |
| 22:40.06 | petn-randall | HelloShi1ty: If you didn't install any, you don't have one. |
| 22:40.34 | HelloShi1ty | I didn't install one but I have one |
| 22:40.40 | HelloShi1ty | Or better |
| 22:40.47 | HelloShi1ty | I didn't install one that I know of |
| 22:41.17 | oerheks | localhost:631 |
| 22:41.21 | HelloShi1ty | I might have installed one but by following instructions on installing dependencies needed by some apps |
| 22:41.47 | HelloShi1ty | oerheks: is that to me? |
| 22:42.03 | Unit193 | oerheks: That's cups, not exactly the same thing. |
| 22:42.10 | HelloShi1ty | yep |
| 22:42.14 | HelloShi1ty | That's cups interface |
| 22:42.21 | Unit193 | HelloShi1ty: Usually the landing page gives it away, but dpkg -l | grep -i httpd might say. :P |
| 22:42.33 | oerheks | Unit193, true, not exact a webserver, but the only service page i know of, standard |
| 22:42.48 | tomreyn | https://wiki.debian.org/DefaultWebBrowser discusses default browsers based on desktop environment |
| 22:43.06 | tomreyn | oh web server, not web browser, ignore me |
| 22:43.12 | petn-randall | :) |
| 22:43.15 | HelloShi1ty | Unit193: that dpkg didn't return nothing either |
| 22:43.36 | petn-randall | HelloShi1ty: Ok, what makes you come to the conclusion that you have one? |
| 22:44.11 | HelloShi1ty | but I have a service hosted in my laptop that I can access via a web site, so this web site must be being served by some web server |
| 22:44.23 | HelloShi1ty | and I didn't installed apache nor nginx |
| 22:44.33 | petn-randall | HelloShi1ty: Ok, what service? |
| 22:44.44 | sney | 'ss -lp |grep http', if it's a regular webserver listening on 80/443 |
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| 22:45.10 | Unit193 | That's what I was going with, but don't remember the ss switches as well as netstat. |
| 22:45.38 | HelloShi1ty | that return nothing either |
| 22:45.50 | sney | I can always remember l for listen and p for process. there might be a way to filter without grep |
| 22:45.51 | HelloShi1ty | but this service is listening in a port other than 80 |
| 22:45.58 | petn-randall | Unit193: LOL, I was just looking up the man page of ss, because netstat isn't installed on most Debian installations nowadays. :D |
| 22:46.09 | sney | ok, then ss -lp |grep whateverportnumber |
| 22:46.21 | petn-randall | `netstat -npl` from my heart, but I had to look up `ss -lp`. |
| 22:46.56 | wuffi600 | HelloShi1ty: do it as root then you can see also the process/services names. |
| 22:46.58 | HelloShi1ty | netstat -tnlp | grep 80 this returns nothing either |
| 22:47.17 | sney | why would you grep for 80 when you just told us it's not listening on 80? are you even reading the things you type |
| 22:47.25 | oerheks | how do you tell; this service is listening in a port other than 80 |
| 22:47.45 | HelloShi1ty | but if I change the '80' for th port it is listining in |
| 22:47.48 | HelloShi1ty | I get some output |
| 22:47.57 | HelloShi1ty | but it doesn't tell me nothing about a web server, I guess |
| 22:48.13 | HelloShi1ty | is 'node' a web server? |
| 22:48.13 | sney | it will tell you the name of the process that is listening on that port |
| 22:48.18 | sney | it sure can be. |
| 22:49.22 | HelloShi1ty | Can this 'node' be related to node.js ? |
| 22:49.47 | sney | yes |
| 22:50.03 | HelloShi1ty | and is this node.js a web server? |
| 22:50.16 | sney | nodejs has a http module that can act as a webserver, yes. |
| 22:50.41 | HelloShi1ty | hum, so it must be that |
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| 23:04.20 | HelloShi1ty | thanks sney wuffi600 Unit193 tomreyn petn-randall oerheks |
| 23:04.38 | petn-randall | HelloShi1ty: you're welcome |
| 23:07.28 | sney | np |
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| 23:45.48 | GigaFlow | need to set 2 ip addresses on teh same interface. Using enp0:0 doesn't work for me, networking service can't run (while 'ip a' shows both addresses assigned). |
| 23:50.13 | CommunistWolf | in /etc/network/interfaces: post-up /sbin/ip addr add <address> dev enp0 |
| 23:50.24 | CommunistWolf | it's dirty but it works fine |
| 23:52.48 | GigaFlow | ok, will try |
| 23:53.19 | GigaFlow | I think it because som on up scripts are crushing with error |
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