| 00:02.37 | ratrace | sney: bone-baboon: note that the link is for v4.14 . params (may) have changed since. |
| 00:03.34 | ratrace | see this: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.19/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html or this: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html |
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| 00:13.27 | johnfg | I may have been a bit hasty in saying that my problem with getting syncthing to start automatically with systemd was solved. |
| 00:13.36 | johnfg | It's weird. After a reboot, got the same message from journalctl -u syncthing@johnfg.service that the service wouldn't start. I brought up syncthing-gtk, and it started the daemon. I quit syncthing-gtk, stopped the daemon, then systemctl started the service fine! |
| 00:14.17 | johnfg | If you had a chance to look at the .service file that I posted, is there any change in it that you'd suggest? |
| 00:16.32 | johnfg | Here it is again, if you get a chance to take a look at it. https://paste.debian.net/1193789/ |
| 00:16.54 | jmcnaught | johnfg: what is in the logs? "journalctl -b -u syncthing@johnfg" |
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| 00:18.23 | johnfg | jmcnaught: I'll repost that too. https://paste.debian.net/1193790/ |
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| 00:18.43 | johnfg | You can see here how it didn't work, then I did what I said. Then it worked. |
| 00:18.52 | johnfg | Oh, I didn't use -b for this. |
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| 00:20.06 | ectospasm | -b without a parameter means current boot |
| 00:20.10 | ectospasm | It's equivalent to -b 0 |
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| 00:20.27 | ectospasm | `journalctl -b 0 -u <service>` |
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| 00:23.17 | jmcnaught | johnfg: is there any reason that johnfg's $HOME would be inaccessible during boot? |
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| 00:25.55 | johnfg | jmcnaught: Not really, although it is its own partition: /dev/vg1/home, and root is: /dev/vg1/root; var is: /dev/vg0/lvol3 |
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| 00:27.05 | johnfg | https://paste.debian.net/1193790/ with -b, although it's the same, I think. |
| 00:27.45 | johnfg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:28.01 | johnfg | Does any of that look like a problem? |
| 00:29.03 | jmcnaught | johnfg: is johnfg the literal username or are you doing search/replace? |
| 00:34.02 | johnfg | jmcnaught: That's literally the username in that .service file. The way you're supposed to do it, if I understand correctly. |
| 00:34.15 | johnfg | How do you read it? |
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| 00:35.47 | wintersky | ok, preferred way to make a windows boot stick? |
| 00:39.01 | somiaj | wintersky: ask in ##windows |
| 00:39.16 | wintersky | i need a tool for debian |
| 00:39.30 | shallowoods | wintersky: use gnome-disks? |
| 00:40.28 | wintersky | what should i do in it? |
| 00:42.59 | shallowoods | wintersky: mount the usb, format as NTFS with MBR box checked. mount your windows disk or iso and copy everything to the forated USB. then boot it |
| 00:43.43 | cws | I am 99% sure that that will not be bootable. |
| 00:45.38 | wintersky | shallowoods: thank you |
| 00:47.33 | shallowoods | cws: as long as you set it as MBR / DOS, you can do it in gparted if you prefer. and have normal comercial disk or image and copy everything it should be fine |
| 00:47.46 | wintersky | shallowoods: there is no mbr checkbox in gnome-disks |
| 00:48.20 | cws | If you set it as MBR, the system is expecting to find bootcode, and just copying files onto an NTFS volume does not create bootcode. |
| 00:48.34 | cws | And it certainly won't be bootable via UEFI. |
| 00:49.59 | shallowoods | cws: oh now you make me wanna try the advice i found in the very first search result ;-) |
| 00:50.42 | cws | wintersky: https://github.com/WoeUSB/WoeUSB-ng |
| 00:50.53 | cws | wintersky: That will properly build a bootable USB device from a Windows ISO. |
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| 00:51.18 | shallowoods | wintersky: listen to cws. their kung-foo is stronger |
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| 01:00.28 | shallowoods | neat there's actually a bootmgr.bin and bootmgr.efi in the iso |
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| 01:04.23 | wintersky | shallowoods, cws yeah woeusb is present in pip3, using it right now,m we'll see hwether the system nboots |
| 01:04.51 | cws | woeusb-ng != woeusb. woeusb-ng is far more up to date and works far better. |
| 01:05.05 | cws | Unless woeusb is also in pip, in which case, cool. |
| 01:05.05 | wintersky | yeah, woeusb-ng, that's what i got |
| 01:05.14 | cws | Oh, hey, didn't know that was there. Rock on. |
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| 01:16.26 | wintersky | eh my boot disks don't boot on legacy mode for no reason |
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| 01:20.51 | somiaj | wintersky: again this is better asked in ##windows |
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| 02:09.20 | johnfg | I was away teaching a class. Any thoughts on that .service file? |
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| 04:04.56 | inode33 | It seems my nvidia problem was an X problem. I just have to specify the device and the driver and suddenly it works in my VM that also has a QXL device |
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| 04:54.34 | bejelentkezni | Hi. I'm trying to install Debian on a mid-2011 macbook air to extend its useful life. Now I don't have an ethernet dongle and macbooks don't have ethernet ports, so the installation must be done over wifi. the wifi situation is being a real pain, the chip is a |
| 04:54.34 | bejelentkezni | bcm43224 the drivers for which are blobs that must be run at userspace. not a huge deal, just means that I can only use wifi from a live desktop environment, no cheeky firmware package sideloading allowed. problem is I really like using the advanced installer since it makes a few small things like remembering to add the main user to the wheel group and setting up an ssh server and whatnot a cinch. Is there any way to run |
| 04:54.34 | bejelentkezni | the advanced installer (graphical or text mode) from any of the live nonfree ISOs? I can't find anything in the manual or Google or from just checking several ISOs for the past hour or so. Ultimately just using the default installer and doing the rest manually would probably have saved me time by now but now I just gotta know. Can the advanced installer be run from the live userspace? |
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| 06:32.42 | avernos | how can i prevent my wireless interface to be used automatically? i´ve tried setting up static conf in interfaces but its still triggered by something else |
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| 06:35.34 | x10d | avernos: stop using NetworkManager |
| 06:36.03 | avernos | x10d, im not, headless. dont have NM |
| 06:36.47 | avernos | i have hostapd, but wpa supplicant or something else i cannot find in logs, kills hostapd and use the interface to connect to a AP |
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| 06:44.49 | somiaj | wpasupplicant in roam moade will do that, you don't have anything in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 07:07.04 | TheBigK02 | why would u not have wireless adapter on at all times... network-manager does a decent job with metrics so when ur wired in... u use wired ... and u are not... u switch to wireless... i actually enjoy that |
| 07:07.30 | TheBigK02 | i mean. yeah in terms of tracking its probably bad... but then u just turn of wireless in the network-manager and ur fine. |
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| 11:00.22 | badsektor | i had a riot-im.list in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ i think i must have installed element-desktop, anyway apt update gave me an error because of outdated key for riot.im, i don't use element-desktop anyway so i apt removed it |
| 11:00.39 | badsektor | but the file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ remained. i removed it manually. is that alright? |
| 11:01.06 | tarzeau_ | badsektor: perfect! |
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| 11:59.20 | MaxFrames | hi |
| 11:59.29 | mutlaq | hello! |
| 12:00.56 | MaxFrames | I have a debian buster virtual machine that hasn't been updated in a while. this machine's critical (particularly, it runs an openvpn server that is critical). should I "apt-get upgrade" or should I "apt-get dist-upgrade"? |
| 12:01.32 | MaxFrames | it is important to patch it as there are multiple security patches available, but at the same time I need to not break openvpn and in general not break stuff |
| 12:01.34 | apollo13 | can't be that critical if it is just one machine |
| 12:01.44 | MaxFrames | critical to me at least... |
| 12:01.45 | apollo13 | then you should work on a failover concept |
| 12:02.12 | apollo13 | well you need to reboot at least⦠and if that breaks be prepared to fix it |
| 12:02.27 | apollo13 | chances are if it hasn't been rebooted for a while that funny stuff happens :D |
| 12:02.48 | jelly-home | MaxFrames, update, full-upgrade / dist-upgrade, reboot, hope for the best |
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| 12:02.59 | MaxFrames | I use it to remote from home and access the office lan; I will patch the machine while I'm at the office anyway |
| 12:03.18 | apollo13 | well when you are at the office there isn't much to worry then |
| 12:03.29 | apollo13 | in the worst case you'll have to reinstall it |
| 12:03.33 | apollo13 | but probably not coming to that |
| 12:03.36 | jelly-home | in general things aren't supposed to break with security and point release patches, but sometimes there are regressions |
| 12:03.43 | MaxFrames | not even that, because I have weekly Veeam backups |
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| 12:03.51 | apollo13 | well then⦠|
| 12:04.04 | MaxFrames | question: full-upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
| 12:04.17 | apollo13 | I wouldn't know what the diff is |
| 12:04.23 | jelly-home | if it's a VM and you have remote console access (that doesn't go over that same openvpn :-) then you're safe to patch it remotely |
| 12:04.49 | jelly-home | !full-upgrade |
| 12:04.49 | dpkg | full-upgrade is the new name for "dist-upgrade" in aptitude from Lenny onwards. Remember that "dist-upgrade" is not about moving from one release to another but installing new packages (ask me about <dist-upgrade>); read man apt-get carefully. Some security fixes will require a "full-upgrade" not just a "safe-upgrade" to apply. Ask me about <why not dist upgrade> <dist-upgrade> <safe-upgrade> <apt-listchanges> |
| 12:05.27 | jelly-home | and if it's a VM you can probably take a snapsnot and revert to that if everything breaks |
| 12:05.29 | MaxFrames | ok |
| 12:05.55 | jelly-home | at work, we always take snapshots before patching |
| 12:06.37 | MaxFrames | other question: I usually used apt-get; should I use aptitude instead? and can I use one when I've used the other one in the past? or do I need to stick to what I used before? |
| 12:06.58 | MaxFrames | I *think* I've patched this machine in the past using apt-get |
| 12:07.14 | apollo13 | jelly-home: wise choice, though I am working on simply replacing machines instead of updating. |
| 12:07.42 | MaxFrames | the reason it's so behind with patches is that I thought I had set upp unattended-upgrades, but apparently I didn't (I just checked and it seems to be unconfigured) |
| 12:08.00 | apollo13 | personally I think unattented-upgrades are very dangerous |
| 12:08.26 | MaxFrames | or at least I have nothing in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades |
| 12:08.38 | jelly-home | MaxFrames, it doesn't really matter whether you use apt, apt-get or aptitude for patching up, the differences in behaviour are subtle |
| 12:09.03 | MaxFrames | so I can't bork stuff if I use a mix of the two over time? |
| 12:09.18 | jelly-home | if unsure, use apt for interactive stuff, or whatever you're most comfrotable with |
| 12:09.29 | MaxFrames | apt-get then |
| 12:09.30 | jelly-home | correct, no borkage |
| 12:09.54 | jelly-home | but apt has a PROGRESS BAR :-D |
| 12:10.07 | MaxFrames | wow :D |
| 12:10.51 | MaxFrames | being a windowshead, I always need some reacquanting when I need to touch the few debian stuff I have |
| 12:10.52 | mspe | jelly-home: apt-get too |
| 12:11.07 | jelly-home | not by default |
| 12:11.07 | MaxFrames | I tend to forget how I did things :X |
| 12:12.40 | MaxFrames | this tiny system has become kind of big stuff when me and my colleagues were forced to remote working for part of the week due to covid. good thing I'd set it up already for my convenience |
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| 12:14.02 | MaxFrames | and it does have some fault tolerance as it's hosted on a failover cluster |
| 12:14.22 | MaxFrames | but if I bork it, I've borked it :D |
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| 12:15.26 | MaxFrames | well thanks folks, next time I'm at the office I'll patch the thing |
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| 13:01.17 | johnfg | If anyone has had the change to look at my paste of syncthing@johnfg.service, and see why it may not be starting at boot, but will afterwards, please let me know. |
| 13:01.31 | johnfg | I'll be glad to repost. |
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| 13:03.37 | johnfg | This is the paste of the initial failures, then the successful start: http://paste.debian.net/1193791/ |
| 13:05.18 | johnfg | And here is the .service file: http://paste.debian.net/1193846/ |
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| 13:08.58 | jelly | johnfg, looks like was just dying too fast for systemd to figure out what's wrong with it... until it decided to work |
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| 13:10.38 | johnfg | jelly: Yes. When it was started directly and running as a daemon, then stopped, the systemd script was able to start it up. |
| 13:11.05 | johnfg | jelly: Is there something to change in the script that you see? |
| 13:11.49 | jelly | johnfg, no, not really. Was the user created recently? |
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| 13:12.31 | johnfg | Nope. |
| 13:13.15 | johnfg | Is there something or someway to make syncthing@johnfg.service start later in the boot process? |
| 13:13.32 | jelly | should that User=%i perhaps be User=%u ? |
| 13:14.10 | johnfg | jelly: No idea. The script was done either by debian or by syncthing as part of the pkg. |
| 13:14.35 | johnfg | What would that change accomplish? |
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| 13:14.40 | jelly | I'll assume the packager knew what they were doing |
| 13:15.07 | jelly | johnfg, I'm just reading man systemd.unit and trying to figure out what %i is supposed to do |
| 13:15.14 | johnfg | jelly: Right. I did email them and ask to upgrade. the deb version is way behind. |
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| 13:17.00 | johnfg | It's in my openvpn@client.service as well I see, i.e., the %i. |
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| 13:25.19 | TheBigK02 | johnfg: u could try to delay the start by adding an AFTER to the systemd.service ... but u shouldnt edit the service file itself. i did that by doing an adjustment for icinga for example: |
| 13:25.48 | TheBigK02 | https://paste.debian.net/1193849/ |
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| 13:27.34 | TheBigK02 | johnfg: does that syncthing have its own logfile? that might be helpful otherwise |
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| 13:30.39 | hansol | heho guys |
| 13:30.43 | hansol | i dont have command mkfs ? |
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| 13:33.04 | TheBigK02 | hansol: which filesystem do u want to create? |
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| 13:33.16 | hansol | TheBigK02 let's say ext4 |
| 13:33.22 | TheBigK02 | but /sbin/mkfs is part of util-linux package |
| 13:33.46 | TheBigK02 | for mkfs.ext4 u need e2fsprogs |
| 13:33.52 | jelly | !buster su |
| 13:33.52 | dpkg | In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for details. |
| 13:34.04 | hansol | i have this: mkfs command not found |
| 13:34.06 | jelly | hansol, how are you becoming root |
| 13:34.25 | TheBigK02 | is /sbin in ur $PATH variable? just echo it |
| 13:34.39 | TheBigK02 | the different PATHS are seperated with : |
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| 13:36.46 | hansol | im trying to insert this command: sudo mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda/fd0 |
| 13:37.00 | hansol | i have fd0 not a directory |
| 13:37.18 | jelly | hansol, which debian release is this? |
| 13:37.22 | TheBigK02 | u mean /dev/fd0 then? |
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| 13:37.43 | jelly | hansol, show the output of: ls -ld /sbin/mkfs |
| 13:38.08 | hansol | TheBigK02 u correct |
| 13:38.18 | hansol | how to specidied a size for partition ? |
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| 13:38.37 | TheBigK02 | u use tools like cfdisk fdisk or something similar |
| 13:38.43 | jelly | you don't want to waste space on a floppy on partitions |
| 13:38.57 | johnfg | TheBigK02: I'll check about the logging. If you didn't put the AFTER in the .service file, where would you put it? |
| 13:39.01 | jelly | use the whole device |
| 13:39.38 | TheBigK02 | johnfg: its in the Unit section |
| 13:40.58 | hansol | sudo mkfs -t ext2 -s 1024 /dev/fd0 |
| 13:41.47 | hansol | Device size is reported to 0 |
| 13:42.04 | hansol | Invalid partition specified |
| 13:42.34 | TheBigK02 | hansol: what kind of hardware ur rocking that u still use a floppy drive :D |
| 13:42.51 | hansol | nnoonon |
| 13:42.56 | hansol | u mean i dont need mkfs ? |
| 13:43.08 | hansol | just fdsik ? |
| 13:43.24 | TheBigK02 | nah, for a floppy jelly is right. just do the mkfs on the device |
| 13:43.30 | TheBigK02 | a partition table is a waste of space |
| 13:43.52 | hansol | what mean mkfs on the device ? |
| 13:44.06 | TheBigK02 | mkfs.ext2 /dev/fd0 |
| 13:45.07 | hansol | ok i insert that command |
| 13:45.29 | hansol | but i have: Device size i 0 , Invalid partiton specified |
| 13:45.41 | hansol | or wasnt releated by fdisk |
| 13:45.46 | TheBigK02 | does the drive light up atleast? |
| 13:46.06 | hansol | you may need to reboot to re-load your partiton |
| 13:46.28 | hansol | i need to rboot ? |
| 13:46.39 | TheBigK02 | u could do partprobe ... but i would assume thats not the issue. what kind of debian ur running on which type of hardware |
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| 13:47.06 | hansol | TheBigK02 ITs on VM |
| 13:47.10 | hansol | the last version of debian |
| 13:47.26 | TheBigK02 | what do u actually want to do in that VM |
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| 13:47.41 | hansol | no, im trying to learn about that command |
| 13:48.03 | TheBigK02 | since everything is a file in linux. u can create a filesystem inside a file |
| 13:48.30 | hansol | you mean i create one file and give mkfs.ext2 /path/to/file ? |
| 13:48.36 | TheBigK02 | first u need an empty file. u can do by dd if=/dev/zero bs=100M count=10 of=test.img |
| 13:48.47 | TheBigK02 | that creates a 1 gig file in or current directory |
| 13:48.55 | TheBigK02 | on that file u can do a mkfs.ext2 test.img |
| 13:49.11 | TheBigK02 | then u can mount that file to a temp directory... |
| 13:49.19 | hansol | ok let me try :> |
| 13:49.35 | hansol | so file will be in /dev/zero/test.img ? |
| 13:49.40 | TheBigK02 | no |
| 13:49.56 | TheBigK02 | the output is the current directory test.img |
| 13:51.00 | TheBigK02 | /dev/zero is the source... and of is the destionation or output... |
| 13:51.18 | hansol | so i can create the file, inside /home directory ? |
| 13:51.26 | TheBigK02 | ofc |
| 13:51.39 | TheBigK02 | wherever ur heart desires and u have write permissions :) |
| 13:51.57 | hansol | what about the command dd ? |
| 13:52.05 | hansol | what it does |
| 13:52.23 | TheBigK02 | it writes zeros in an output file |
| 13:52.37 | TheBigK02 | /dev/zero is device that just outputs zeros |
| 13:53.50 | hansol | wiuth sudo or without ? |
| 13:53.57 | hansol | ah without it works also |
| 13:54.31 | TheBigK02 | in that case it does, yes :) |
| 13:54.54 | TheBigK02 | its also more secure... since u cant break ur disk... and u can easily do with the wrong output ;) |
| 13:55.01 | hansol | after mkfs -t ext2 test.img it told me that all is done |
| 13:55.11 | TheBigK02 | now u can mount it |
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| 13:55.27 | hansol | mount test.img /dev/zero ? |
| 13:55.32 | TheBigK02 | no |
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| 13:55.47 | TheBigK02 | sudo mount -o loop test.img /mnt |
| 13:56.31 | TheBigK02 | u can df -h to see if its correctly mounted. u should see a littel less than 1 gig of space there |
| 13:56.41 | TheBigK02 | for /mnt |
| 13:57.19 | hansol | its mounted |
| 13:57.24 | hansol | now its in /mnt directory ? |
| 13:57.56 | hansol | its not parttiion ? its just a file with filesystem ext2 right ? |
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| 13:58.08 | TheBigK02 | yes |
| 13:58.32 | TheBigK02 | u can also write a partiton table to a file... for practicing prupose ... not a bad next test task :) |
| 13:59.03 | TheBigK02 | but mounting partitons of that file u need to actually point mount where the filesystem is |
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| 13:59.55 | TheBigK02 | for disks linux does the job for u.. u might be able to add a second virtual disk to ur VM to have a more real experience... |
| 14:00.25 | Ede|Popede | file(1) gives a good hint where it starts |
| 14:00.46 | TheBigK02 | Ede|Popede: he means man 1 file |
| 14:01.03 | TheBigK02 | the man pages are a really good resource if u dont know what something does |
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| 14:01.25 | Ede|Popede | actually i was just avoiding `` notation ;) |
| 14:01.55 | TheBigK02 | Ede|Popede: sorry. :) |
| 14:02.35 | Ede|Popede | the sticks i collected over the years have turned out to have a nice range of layouts, though they all were formatted with a single FAT (exFAT i guess) |
| 14:02.37 | hansol | TheBigK02 if count is 50 that would be a 5 gb right ? |
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| 14:03.08 | TheBigK02 | absolutel |
| 14:03.09 | TheBigK02 | absolutely |
| 14:03.32 | TheBigK02 | u can also adjust the bs (blocksize) ... but be careful to have enough RAM available ;) |
| 14:03.52 | TheBigK02 | 1G would be a blocksize auf 1 gb... but man dd gives u same information ;) |
| 14:04.20 | hansol | sudo mount -o loop test.img /mnt -- what means /mnt ? |
| 14:04.28 | hansol | direcetory at last? |
| 14:05.05 | ksk | hansol: take a look at the "SNYOPSIS" part of "man mount" to get an answer to that. |
| 14:05.07 | hansol | i mean i can enter in /mnt, that means im inside the file ? |
| 14:05.15 | TheBigK02 | yes |
| 14:05.44 | ksk | hansol: it goes: "mount [-fnrsvw] [-t fstype] [-o options] device dir" (with some added formatting in man) |
| 14:06.38 | ksk | I was inclined to expand on that, but eh, the manpage really does tell you anything you need to know.. |
| 14:06.52 | TheBigK02 | :D |
| 14:07.00 | hansol | in teory yes |
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| 14:12.14 | hansol | what about sudo fsck /home/dir/test.img ? |
| 14:12.23 | hansol | or sorry, sudo fsck /mnt |
| 14:13.18 | ksk | pardon? Did you try "man fsck" for starters? |
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| 14:14.02 | ksk | hansol: its perfectly fine to be a Debian/Linux newbie, but then rather state questions in a non-techinal manner, like "I want to do XY, I tried Z, but instead of foo I got bar" |
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| 14:14.28 | ksk | !smart questions |
| 14:14.28 | dpkg | Asking the right question can be hard, and effective communication is easier if you give us extra information. https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html has some suggestions. The key points are: tell us what you actually did and what you were trying to achieve, provide the full command and full output in a <pastebin>. |
| 14:14.36 | superschnell | !errata |
| 14:14.36 | dpkg | Last minute notes regarding Debian 10 ("Buster") are listed at http://www.debian.org/releases/buster/errata . Known problems in the installer are listed at http://www.debian.org/releases/buster/debian-installer/#errata |
| 14:15.49 | hansol | why i have command not found when typing a command fdsik ? |
| 14:16.08 | ksk | !buster su |
| 14:16.08 | dpkg | In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for details. |
| 14:16.33 | hansol | im inserting it with root |
| 14:16.58 | superschnell | hansol: surely you mean fdisk |
| 14:16.58 | ksk | You did not read what the bot said. Its about how you "got root". |
| 14:17.16 | ksk | nah, fsck is a thing. |
| 14:18.16 | superschnell | Might someone be willing to briefly explain to me what an "errata server" is? In what way does it differ from.. say.. a repository? |
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| 14:18.45 | hansol | ksk use fsck not fdisk ? |
| 14:18.47 | ksk | superschnell: its something that shows open (security) issues for every package there is. |
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| 14:19.08 | ksk | or, maybe only for packages installed on your server, depending on setup etc |
| 14:20.40 | ksk | superschnell: nothing to do with Debian in specific. More like "I want to know what version of foo I run (in company), and if there are any (outstanding, known) security bugs " |
| 14:20.54 | superschnell | ah ok |
| 14:21.07 | ksk | hansol: You are not responding at all to any of my questions. I cannot help you this way. |
| 14:21.12 | ksk | What are you trying to do? |
| 14:21.18 | superschnell | hansol: /usr/sbin/fdisk |
| 14:21.27 | superschnell | Just guessing |
| 14:21.35 | superschnell | And please listen to ksk |
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| 14:24.33 | hansol | ok i enter to fdisk /home/dir/test.img |
| 14:24.42 | hansol | the typet g and w |
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| 14:37.33 | johnfg | TheBigK02: What would you put then for the AFTER in the Unit section? |
| 14:39.39 | johnfg | TheBigK02: You saw that Unit does have already, After=network.target? |
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| 15:44.52 | tosted | hi.. about handing wireless in debian...i have unstabel connection with irc servers and streaming.. i would to know how to make a clean connection without networkmanager in a wpa securated WIFILAN? |
| 15:45.16 | cws | tosted: What's wrong with using nm? |
| 15:48.23 | sney | it is unlikely that n-m is the problem, it's just where you're seeing symptoms. |
| 15:48.35 | sney | wifi instability is much more likely to be rf or driver issues. |
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| 15:53.00 | tosted | would solve my connections errors? |
| 15:53.36 | sney | remove network-manager and install connman instead, |
| 15:53.41 | sney | but I doubt it will make a difference |
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| 15:58.32 | johnfg | It's in my openvpn@client.service as well I see, i.e., the %i./quit |
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| 16:13.59 | |\n | hi guys, having apt-build successfully finish with packages for native amd64, i would like to also build the i386 but i literally can't figure out how - any hints (approximate directions)? |
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| 16:16.04 | |\n | it's just the frustration comes from an apparently incorrect expectation of mine, that simply putting it as "deb [arch=amd64,i386 trusted=yes] file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main" makes `apt-build install something:i386` vial, magically heh |
| 16:16.12 | |\n | what am i doing wrong? |
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| 16:17.36 | |\n | what i face instead is already built variant for amd64 of the package (expected, native) but zero clues on how force it building i386 variant of it |
| 16:18.43 | |\n | additionally i still do see "N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i386/Packages' as repository 'file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i386'" which indicates that i get it wrong |
| 16:19.42 | imMute | |\n: does /var/cache/apt-build/repository/apt-build/Release have "Architectures: i386" in it? sounds like it doesn't. |
| 16:20.17 | imMute | I think the [arch=amd64,i386] in the sources list only tells apt to use that repo for those 2 archs and ignore any other archs it might have |
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| 16:21.55 | |\n | imMute, no |
| 16:21.59 | |\n | only amd64 |
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| 16:22.20 | imMute | that's why. the repo is saying it doesn't have any i386 packages, so apt doesn't look any further |
| 16:23.17 | |\n | apt-build operates with source packages on one hand and makes a cozy local repo on the other, what should we take care of in order to make it have the i386 |
| 16:23.53 | imMute | I'm not familiar with apt-build unfortunately. |
| 16:24.10 | |\n | imMute, well in any case many thanks man |
| 16:24.38 | imMute | the manpage starts with "apt-build - Fetch sources and build packages optimized for your architecture." so just based on that I'm gonna guess it can only build native packages. |
| 16:26.19 | |\n | yeah i have the same feeling honestly but i must figure out if this is a common interpretation |
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| 16:29.40 | tosted | again down |
| 16:29.43 | tosted | down againa |
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| 16:42.25 | tosted | hard way howto link to connect debian 10 through wifi? |
| 16:44.45 | |\n | tosted, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant ? theres alsi wicd ncurses and nmcli and whatnot or this is related to hostapd? |
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| 16:58.07 | Franciman | Hi |
| 16:58.13 | Franciman | I installed npm from the repos |
| 16:58.15 | Franciman | and nodejs |
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| 16:58.25 | Franciman | but npm says that nodejs is too old |
| 16:58.30 | Franciman | is it expected? |
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| 17:03.21 | crimsonhawk009 | What is the results of npm -v and node -v |
| 17:03.57 | Franciman | node -v --> v10.24.0 |
| 17:04.04 | Franciman | npm -v --> 5.8.0 |
| 17:04.22 | Franciman | If i run npm --help, I get |
| 17:04.24 | Franciman | pm WARN npm npm does not support Node.js v10.24.0 |
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| 17:04.49 | Franciman | wait the complete warning is |
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| 17:05.05 | Franciman | https://bpa.st/QP7A |
| 17:07.16 | sney | Franciman: that seems like a warning you could ignore, since 10 is higher than 9. try using it and see what happens. |
| 17:07.29 | Franciman | neat |
| 17:07.31 | Franciman | thanks |
| 17:07.56 | sney | otherwise, it looks like there's a newer npm in buster-backports that may not have that message |
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| 17:09.22 | tosted | irc debian log? |
| 17:09.28 | sney | !irclogs |
| 17:09.28 | dpkg | i guess irclog is #debian on <freenode> is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/ , #debian on <OFTC> is logged at http://irclogs.thegrebs.com/debian/ |
| 17:10.02 | sney | tosted: if your wifi is dropping with different connection software, it's not a software problem. |
| 17:10.12 | sney | tosted: you likely have an issue with the signal, or the driver. |
| 17:10.29 | tosted | didnt change yet! |
| 17:10.34 | tosted | nm is on |
| 17:10.57 | tosted | i was rebooting everything |
| 17:11.10 | sney | then try connman, or ifupdown. but I still think it will make no difference. |
| 17:12.07 | tosted | ok.. |
| 17:12.10 | tosted | tks |
| 17:13.21 | crimsonhawk009 | Franciman: If you do not mind using other repos I have been using nodesource's for years without a problem. https://github.com/nodesource/distributions#deb |
| 17:14.23 | Franciman | thank crimsonhawk009 |
| 17:15.09 | crimsonhawk009 | Other bonus is then you can run active LTS |
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| 17:52.57 | kale | how can i find out which device this is: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1 |
| 17:53.13 | kale | i suspect it is my graphics card, but i am unsure |
| 17:57.52 | imMute | kale: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/device will be a symlink to the parent device |
| 17:57.59 | jelly | kale, see if there's a device symlink in that directory, and where it points to |
| 17:58.05 | jelly | ninja'd! |
| 17:58.32 | kale | no device link |
| 17:58.44 | jelly | what IS there then |
| 17:59.17 | jelly | pastebin ls -la /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/ |
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| 18:00.23 | kale | bunch of files ... :-) https://pastebin.com/QML0ddsH |
| 18:01.16 | jelly | kale, cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/type says what |
| 18:01.19 | greycat | Hmm, "totalt"? |
| 18:01.29 | kale | x86_pkg_temp |
| 18:01.45 | jelly | that sounds like the cpu package |
| 18:01.53 | kale | greycat: its in danish, sorry |
| 18:01.55 | jelly | grep . /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone*/type for more descriptions |
| 18:02.04 | greycat | that's fine, just hadn't seen that before |
| 18:02.14 | hansol | why mount -o loop text.img /pool/ is working but mount -o poll text.img /pool/ is not ? |
| 18:02.39 | kale | jelly: so basically the high temperature ig get on that sensor is my CPU going hot |
| 18:03.19 | kale | the other sensor is have is /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/type with content "acpitz" |
| 18:03.44 | jelly | my experience with hot cpus is you don't want to keep it running at 80-90C for months |
| 18:04.34 | jelly | apparently they can become magically unstable then |
| 18:04.58 | kale | its at 66 degrees, at leaset the sensor is, but running sensors from lm-sensors gives me 59 for the hottest core |
| 18:06.35 | kale | can i do something to speed up the fan? is the some fan controlling software? |
| 18:07.00 | kale | heh, fancontrol |
| 18:07.12 | jelly | I also learned to open the case and vacuum it every 3 months or so |
| 18:07.28 | jelly | after that the second cpu did not get unstable |
| 18:07.56 | kale | i use my air compressor for that :-) actually on my other system i have a big heat sync, and i found that it had been running for years without the fan turning, with no problems at all |
| 18:08.25 | jelly | but if someone wants to buy an i3-540 with a single core (it works fine if just one is used :-) |
| 18:08.28 | greycat | (heat sink) |
| 18:08.51 | kale | greycat: heh sorry, need to check my spelling |
| 18:09.30 | kale | guess i need to replace the stock fan and heatsink |
| 18:09.53 | jelly | funny, a coworker asked about a "DNS sync hole" today |
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| 18:16.05 | kale | hmm... i'll check the BIOS setting, perhaps i can speed up the fan there |
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| 18:44.12 | hansol | losetup /dev/pool1 mountedimg i have this: No such file or directory |
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| 19:16.11 | Hash | Why do I use ubuntu? |
| 19:16.21 | Hash | Can someone please smack me across the head... *sigh* |
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| 19:18.57 | Druid | !insult Hash |
| 19:18.58 | dpkg | Hash is nothing but an unintelligent mass of spongy dog vomit |
| 19:19.09 | Druid | !insult Hash |
| 19:19.10 | dpkg | Hash is nothing but a villainous bucket of churlish gunk |
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| 19:20.07 | Druid | im on ubuntu though... |
| 19:20.13 | Druid | !insult Druid |
| 19:20.14 | dpkg | Druid is nothing but a salty half-mouthful of inferior dog balls |
| 19:20.25 | jelly | !botabuse |
| 19:20.25 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
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| 19:21.06 | Druid | !!111!oneone |
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| 19:25.26 | Hash | :( |
| 19:25.37 | Hash | jelly: come on help me |
| 19:25.57 | Hash | Goin on 20 years now, man. We've been at it together in this channel for 20 freakig years. |
| 19:26.05 | Hash | How time flies, eh? |
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| 19:27.45 | Hash | I thought analog mic woulud be easier to use than USB mic. Turns out, USB mic works 100% flawlessly 100% of the time but the analog mic that plugs into sound card who comes with this own phantom power supply for the studio mic... no sound |
| 19:28.12 | sney | usb interfaces are inconsistent in quality |
| 19:28.17 | Hash | I'm going to go do drugs now and forget about computers for a while. |
| 19:28.20 | Hash | :( |
| 19:28.35 | Druid | looks at nick |
| 19:28.37 | Hash | I mean that's what I figured |
| 19:28.38 | sney | my focusrite one is pretty good, but it was also about $150 |
| 19:28.54 | Hash | USB issues, analog should just be clean and nice, works on any machine. |
| 19:29.08 | Hash | Linux just won't pickup audio from it. Just static. |
| 19:29.16 | Hash | Driving me mental. Can't ask herec uz it's ubuntu |
| 19:29.18 | Hash | So nevermind |
| 19:29.43 | Hash | I'm ust... just next time I think about using anything but debian, smack the bejeesus out of me |
| 19:29.45 | Hash | Thanks. |
| 19:30.00 | sney | analog mic is just a few magnets and an XLR connector, much more likely to be the interface, yeah |
| 19:30.35 | Hash | I mean it works sometimes. And mostly it doesn't. Yesterday I recorded sound. Today it picks up only static. No idea why. Anywya. |
| 19:30.41 | Hash | It's not a debian issue. |
| 19:30.55 | Hash | It's a Hash using a shit OS like Ubuntu issue. |
| 19:31.01 | Hash | I'm an idiot. I hate myself. |
| 19:31.12 | sney | rip |
| 19:31.27 | Hash | Thanks for letting me vent! |
| 19:31.31 | Hash | Peace out debianites. |
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| 19:33.53 | Hash | Druid: I play driud in diablo 2 :D |
| 19:34.06 | sney | !ot |
| 19:34.06 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 19:34.09 | Hash | Druid: also ##psychedelics and ##stoned |
| 19:34.16 | Hash | If you want. |
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| 23:02.23 | darsie | for ssb dpkg says about 'deb-src sid' to add "deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free". I get an error: https://paste.debian.net/1193916/ . Is this due to a network issue of my setup? |
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| 23:04.24 | darsie | Err:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid InRelease 403 Forbidden [IP: 10.0.6.1 3128] |
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| 23:05.50 | darsie | That's my sources.list: https://paste.debian.net/1193918/ |
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| 23:07.12 | sney | darsie: that 10.0.6.1 ip is incorrect for deb.debian.org. you might have some dns weirdness or something, try instead with the ftp.at.debian.org mirror you use for the rest |
| 23:07.44 | darsie | ok |
| 23:08.34 | darsie | seems to work :). thx |
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| 23:08.49 | sney | np |
| 23:09.44 | Na_Klar | Why is it, that I can "shred --help > foo.txt" but when I "shred -v ./bar.dat > foo.txt" the output is not written to foo.txt but to the cli? Or otherwise said: Why can't I pipe the output from some cli tools? |
| 23:10.15 | sney | Na_Klar: some output is on STDERR instead of STDOUT. you can fix by appending 2>&1 at the end of the command. |
| 23:10.33 | Na_Klar | lemme try .. |
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| 23:12.47 | Na_Klar | sney, that worked fine. I just wonder why my ruby program claims to catch stdout and stderr with so-called popen2, but it obviously does not catch stderr, since your hint worked ..but that's a ruby issue ofc |
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| 23:28.38 | darsie | I'm gettingan error trying to make a simple sid backport of deluged: https://paste.debian.net/1193919/ builddeps:deluge : Depends: debhelper-compat (= 13) E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 23:29.12 | sney | darsie: install debhelper from buster-backports |
| 23:29.25 | darsie | ok |
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| 23:33.16 | darsie | sney: Install dwz from buster-backports, too? debhelper : Depends: dwz (>= 0.12.20190711) but 0.12-3 is to be installed |
| 23:33.38 | sney | that's what it says |
| 23:33.50 | darsie | kinda :) |
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| 23:56.07 | darsie | sney: I backported deluged, but it depends on newer deluge-common and python3-libtorrent, so I tried backporting them, too, but python3-libtorrent also depends on libboost-system-dev libboost-python-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost-random-dev libssl-dev pkg-config python3-all-dev python3-all-dbg python3-docutils. This is getting tedious. |
| 23:57.00 | somiaj | welcome to the world of backporting. Is this a production system? |
| 23:57.14 | darsie | no. Just our deluge VM. |
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| 23:58.00 | somiaj | bullseye is frozen, and outside of slow security support (though there are ways to midagate this), could be an option if you can deal with any downsides |
| 23:58.02 | darsie | Is it worth backporting all these packages as well, or would it likely explode? |
| 23:58.46 | somiaj | it totally depends on your use case, python3 isn't core in buster, but I woudln't backport it, and instead use a pythone virtual enviroment. |
| 23:58.53 | somiaj | Is deluge something you could install from pip? |
| 23:59.06 | darsie | idk. I'll try. |
| 23:59.10 | somiaj | wai |
| 23:59.11 | somiaj | t |
| 23:59.12 | darsie | k |
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| 23:59.59 | somiaj | Complining a newer python is fairly straight forawrd (I complied 3.8.9 recentally, but you could easily complie 3.9), compile this locally (don't install globaly), then you could make a virtual enviroment that uses this newer python and install anything you need with pip there |