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| 19:25.00 | mortehu | But all I can configure is the ESSID, and it doesn't find the access point being 0.3 m from it. |
| 19:26.54 | marco_g | Right, I have exactly the same problem it seems. |
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| 19:27.25 | marco_g | mortehu: If you find out what the problem was can you please tell me? I will do the same. |
| 19:27.39 | mortehu | marco_g: Okay. |
| 19:28.11 | marco_g | Thanks. :) |
| 19:34.06 | marco_g | mortehu: What kind of ppc box do you have? |
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| 19:34.50 | bddebian | re |
| 19:35.02 | marco_g | wb bddebian |
| 19:35.37 | bddebian | OK damnit. Booting my 2.4.22 kernel causes a kernel panic in mesh. mesh: double DMA started! ?? WTF?? |
| 19:35.50 | bighawk | join the club |
| 19:35.58 | bighawk | my 2.6.0 caused a kernel panic on bootup too |
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| 19:36.55 | bddebian | Well 2.6 is understandable but 2.4.22?? :-) |
| 19:37.00 | bddebian | Hey simonrvn: |
| 19:37.03 | bddebian | OK damnit. Booting my 2.4.22 kernel causes a kernel panic in mesh. mesh: double DMA started! ?? WTF?? |
| 19:37.31 | simonrvn | hullo. damn fucking thing froze on me. only difference was that elevator=deadline thing |
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| 19:37.59 | simonrvn | random error i guess |
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| 19:38.58 | bddebian | I boot a second time and get in but the keyboard is fuxxored... Fucking macs.. :-( |
| 19:39.21 | simonrvn | ? |
| 19:40.18 | bddebian | Bootx is booting my new 2.4.22 kernel even though I am using the 2.2.20 linux.bin?? :-( |
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| 19:40.51 | marco_g | bddebian: Keyboard fucked? How? |
| 19:41.01 | marco_g | bddebian: Wrong mapping? |
| 19:41.04 | bddebian | Yep |
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| 19:43.14 | marco_g | bddebian: I had the same problem with some kernel a while ago. You need to add a kernel argument. |
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| 19:43.33 | bddebian | marco_g: Yeah, which one? :-) |
| 19:43.40 | bddebian | The adb_keycodes thing? |
| 19:43.44 | simonrvn | yes |
| 19:43.51 | bddebian | And WTF is mesh anyway?> |
| 19:43.52 | marco_g | bddebian: keyboard_sends_linux_keycodes=1 |
| 19:43.53 | Flighty | hi all |
| 19:44.02 | simonrvn | http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes |
| 19:44.05 | bddebian | Hello Flighty |
| 19:44.06 | marco_g | Hi Flighty |
| 19:44.12 | simonrvn | hullo |
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| 19:45.45 | Flighty | got a g4 from my friend today. i had to put the hdd on ide1 cause the ide0 holder is still at my friend. when i turn the g4 on, he can`t find a hdd (blinking ? and apple face) - how can i open the cdrom at this point? F12 doesn`t work |
| 19:46.15 | simonrvn | try holding down the mouse button uintil it ejects |
| 19:46.47 | simonrvn | otherwise it should eject if it doesn't see it as bootable |
| 19:47.05 | simonrvn | if you know it'S a bootable cd, then push the bugger back in |
| 19:47.18 | simonrvn | (gently of course) |
| 19:48.37 | Flighty | thanks that worked. |
| 19:49.02 | Flighty | let`s see, if he don`t accept the hdd - or if he just didn`t found anything to boot on it |
| 19:49.09 | simonrvn | yup |
| 19:49.24 | simonrvn | you might need to hold down the option key to boot linux |
| 19:51.58 | bddebian | So I DON'T want to use MAC_ADB keycodes right?? |
| 19:52.08 | simonrvn | yes |
| 19:52.12 | simonrvn | i.e., right |
| 19:52.33 | bddebian | And again, wtf is mesh? Is that IDE/SCSI stuff? |
| 19:52.44 | simonrvn | scsi |
| 19:53.00 | bddebian | It's SCSI ide emulation or whatever right?? |
| 19:53.01 | simonrvn | the internal scsi bus on some boxen |
| 19:53.04 | simonrvn | no |
| 19:53.13 | bddebian | Ah. Do I need it? |
| 19:53.22 | Flighty | uhm - the ppc netinstall i got has no cfdisk ;/ |
| 19:53.25 | simonrvn | yes, if your bus uses that chipset |
| 19:53.32 | simonrvn | Flighty: mac-fdisk |
| 19:53.55 | bddebian | simonrvn: Then how do I fix the kernel panic?? |
| 19:54.20 | simonrvn | what did you do now? besides you should upgrade or patch that |
| 19:54.39 | Flighty | first block *uhm* |
| 19:54.47 | bddebian | simonrvn: me? |
| 19:54.48 | simonrvn | 1p |
| 19:54.55 | simonrvn | or 2p, or whatever |
| 19:55.10 | simonrvn | bddebian: yes |
| 19:55.42 | bddebian | OK damnit. Booting my 2.4.22 kernel causes a kernel panic in mesh. mesh: double DMA started! ?? WTF?? |
| 19:56.17 | simonrvn | something is really fucked. i've never seen that before. what did you do to it? |
| 19:56.32 | bddebian | I compiled a damn 2.4.22 kernel. :-) |
| 19:57.04 | simonrvn | these work: |
| 19:57.04 | simonrvn | CONFIG_SCSI_MESH=y |
| 19:57.05 | simonrvn | CONFIG_SCSI_MESH_SYNC_RATE=10 |
| 19:57.05 | simonrvn | CONFIG_SCSI_MESH_RESET_DELAY_MS=4000 |
| 19:57.06 | simonrvn | CONFIG_SCSI_MAC53C94=y |
| 19:57.14 | simonrvn | 10 is max |
| 19:57.31 | simonrvn | 2.4.23-xfs |
| 19:57.45 | simonrvn | i've always set it like that |
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| 19:58.13 | Dizzutch[work] | hey guys, have any of you had depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.6.0/kernel/... errors when trying to install a .deb file from 2.6.0 made with make-kpkg? |
| 19:58.55 | simonrvn | usually a make-kpkg clean and a re-build works to fix it |
| 19:59.30 | Flighty | uhm mac-fdisk is ugly ;/ |
| 19:59.40 | simonrvn | who cares. it works |
| 19:59.48 | Dizzutch[work] | this is the first time i try to compile, rebuild with the same command? |
| 19:59.54 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 19:59.58 | Dizzutch[work] | make-kpkg kernel-image |
| 20:00.00 | simonrvn | so: |
| 20:00.30 | simonrvn | e.g.: fakeroot make-kpkg clean && fakeroot make-kpkg --foo --bar binary-arch |
| 20:00.40 | Flighty | simonrvn: maybe, when i have found a tutorial. the ? help isn`t helpful for me |
| 20:00.51 | simonrvn | what are you trying to do? |
| 20:01.04 | simonrvn | @wayttd Flighty |
| 20:01.06 | ravenbird | What Are You Trying To Do, Flighty? |
| 20:01.10 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:01.35 | Flighty | this needed mac boot thing (want to partition again?) - a swap partition and the rest linux |
| 20:01.48 | simonrvn | to make a swap partition: |
| 20:02.05 | simonrvn | c, then partition number, then size, then name: swap |
| 20:02.14 | simonrvn | so e.g.: |
| 20:02.26 | Flighty | first block is always invalid ;/ |
| 20:02.33 | simonrvn | you have /dev/sda2, and you want a swap on sda3: |
| 20:02.36 | simonrvn | c |
| 20:02.41 | simonrvn | 3p |
| 20:02.48 | simonrvn | 512M |
| 20:02.52 | simonrvn | swap |
| 20:03.30 | Flighty | first i should kill the whole hdd - how to delete everything? d seems to be only for partitions - the map is not deleteable? |
| 20:03.44 | simonrvn | Flighty: i to reinit it |
| 20:04.07 | Flighty | ok - and what map thing he wants? |
| 20:04.16 | simonrvn | ? |
| 20:04.43 | simonrvn | i've only used mac-fdisk on scsi drives |
| 20:04.47 | simonrvn | sorry :) |
| 20:04.58 | simonrvn | actually no, one ide drive |
| 20:05.07 | simonrvn | an imac |
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| 20:06.08 | simonrvn | Flighty: ok you need to do this first: i, then b, then do c, etc. |
| 20:06.31 | Flighty | when doing an reinit - he says: "size of device is 160*** blocks: |
| 20:06.40 | Flighty | then he waits for an input |
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| 20:07.06 | Flighty | what is he waiting for? a size? |
| 20:09.08 | marco_g | mortehu: Which kernel do you use? |
| 20:09.21 | simonrvn | hit enter |
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| 20:09.37 | marco_g | mortehu: I am using linux 2.6, I get a "Unsupported kernel" error. |
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| 20:10.24 | gilligan_ | 2.6 on ppc is still a bit of an issue from what I can tell from my efforts here hehe |
| 20:10.38 | simonrvn | yes it is |
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| 20:11.01 | simonrvn | it's very much an in-progress. it's .0 of course it is |
| 20:11.07 | gilligan_ | i get segfaults when trying to modprobe ide-cd .. |
| 20:11.36 | simonrvn | http://www.linux.org.uk/~davej/docs/post-halloween-2.6.txt-devel |
| 20:11.39 | simonrvn | read that |
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| 20:11.57 | simonrvn | @halloween text is <reply>http://www.linux.org.uk/~davej/docs/post-halloween-2.6.txt-devel |
| 20:11.58 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
| 20:12.16 | simonrvn | @2.6 RTFM is see also halloween text |
| 20:12.16 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
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| 20:12.23 | simonrvn | @2.6 RTFM |
| 20:12.23 | ravenbird | from memory, 2.6 rtfm is see also halloween text |
| 20:12.37 | simonrvn | @no 2.6 RTFM is see halloween text |
| 20:12.37 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
| 20:12.39 | simonrvn | @2.6 RTFM |
| 20:12.39 | ravenbird | i guess 2.6 rtfm is see halloween text |
| 20:13.03 | Flighty | simonrvn: first block @ b should be p1? that one is invalid |
| 20:13.19 | simonrvn | 1p is your partition map |
| 20:13.28 | Flighty | simonrvn: uhm |
| 20:13.31 | simonrvn | do p, you'll see that |
| 20:14.18 | simonrvn | Command (? for help): p |
| 20:14.18 | simonrvn | /dev/sdc |
| 20:14.18 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.21 | simonrvn | /dev/sdc1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1 ( 31.5k) Partition map |
| 20:14.24 | simonrvn | /dev/sdc2 Apple_Bootstrap bootstrap 1600 @ 64 (800.0k) NewWorld bootblock |
| 20:14.54 | Flighty | he says it doesn`t fit |
| 20:15.06 | simonrvn | what did you do? |
| 20:15.09 | gilligan_ | and for some reason I dont get vga console to run..weird |
| 20:15.54 | simonrvn | IIRC, it's VGA or FB console. but that just may be x86.. |
| 20:15.54 | Flighty | simonrvn: pressed b and have choosed 2p (free space) |
| 20:16.00 | simonrvn | Flighty: can you paste me what you've done so far? |
| 20:18.46 | Flighty | simonrvn: copy and paste is not working - but i found a good howto at google - i first try that one |
| 20:21.18 | simonrvn | www.penguinppc.org |
| 20:21.32 | simonrvn | look for the mac-fdisk tuturial |
| 20:21.38 | simonrvn | s/u/o/ |
| 20:22.07 | Dizzutch[work] | simonrvn, I'm stil getting the Unresolved Symbol errors, i tried two rebuilds. |
| 20:22.32 | simonrvn | what's the thing that's puking? |
| 20:22.36 | Dizzutch[work] | it's only in options i compiled as modules |
| 20:22.38 | Dizzutch[work] | a whole lot |
| 20:22.44 | Dizzutch[work] | just about everything i compiled as modules |
| 20:22.54 | simonrvn | what's your source? |
| 20:23.13 | simonrvn | you included module support? |
| 20:23.57 | Flighty | why is the type 82 invalid? i thought type 82 is swap.... |
| 20:24.05 | Dizzutch[work] | it's the 2.6.0-benh |
| 20:24.22 | Dizzutch[work] | should ininstall module-init-tools package? |
| 20:24.40 | simonrvn | Flighty: what are you doing? answer my question? |
| 20:24.51 | simonrvn | s/^?// |
| 20:25.12 | Dizzutch[work] | simonrvn, that did it, i installed module-init-tools and they dissapeared |
| 20:25.20 | simonrvn | ah, that |
| 20:25.36 | Flighty | simonrvn: i got the mac boot thing, a native linux partition and try to create a swap partition with C |
| 20:25.47 | simonrvn | no c. name it swap |
| 20:25.54 | Flighty | when i say it`s type 82 he tells me type 82 is invalid |
| 20:25.58 | simonrvn | duh |
| 20:25.59 | Flighty | ah ok thanks |
| 20:26.28 | simonrvn | forget all you knew with cfdisk. mac-fdisk is the tool for ppc mac |
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| 20:27.13 | dho | hello |
| 20:27.20 | simonrvn | olleh |
| 20:28.49 | dho | do you know how to set up an apple wireless keyboard in debian? |
| 20:29.01 | simonrvn | me? no |
| 20:29.05 | dho | i believe i installed all the modules that were necasary |
| 20:29.08 | dho | oh alright |
| 20:29.39 | simonrvn | google doesn't have a tutorial or something? |
| 20:29.55 | dho | il go take a closer look |
| 20:30.21 | marco_g | dho: Which keyboard? |
| 20:31.16 | dho | apple wireless kb |
| 20:31.19 | dho | (bluetooth) |
| 20:31.54 | marco_g | oh, bluetooth :) |
| 20:32.55 | Flighty | simonrvn: i finaly got it ;) thanks a lot |
| 20:33.18 | Flighty | will the rest of the installation be "normal"? like normal debian? |
| 20:37.31 | dho | simonrvn: how do i set up kde? |
| 20:38.24 | simonrvn | use a frontend like aptitude or dselect. it'll resolve the deps better |
| 20:39.34 | simonrvn | Flighty: should be. except it being a G4 ;). did you make a bootstrap partition? |
| 20:39.41 | Flighty | simonrvn: after rebooting it hangs @ "starting second stage bootstrap" |
| 20:40.03 | dho | can anyone help me set up kde? |
| 20:40.07 | Flighty | simonrvn: yes - used C and named it Apple_Bootstrap |
| 20:40.12 | simonrvn | no |
| 20:40.19 | simonrvn | wrong. use the b command |
| 20:40.21 | Flighty | the debian installer accepted it... |
| 20:40.43 | Flighty | uhm - ok once more ;) |
| 20:40.50 | simonrvn | read the help more carefully ok ? :) |
| 20:41.09 | simonrvn | let me find that mac-fdisk tut for ya |
| 20:42.05 | simonrvn | http://penguinppc.org/projects/yaboot/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml |
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| 20:42.47 | simonrvn | and read it carefully |
| 20:47.04 | Flighty | the only thing he`s still doing right now is printing out "starting second stage bootstrap" |
| 20:47.21 | Flighty | can`T open the cdrom with the mouse anymore.... strange |
| 20:49.10 | simonrvn | do command-option-p-r. and read the install guide |
| 20:49.17 | simonrvn | @+ig |
| 20:49.18 | ravenbird | rumour has it, install guide is http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ or http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst or if you're totally clueless read http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016&page=1 too |
| 20:49.52 | Flighty | command-option-p-r? |
| 20:50.04 | Flighty | ok gonna read the netinstall thingie |
| 20:50.39 | Flighty | er that`s a normal howto... i`m really not new to debian ;) |
| 20:51.47 | simonrvn | yes, but you should read the powerpc one |
| 20:52.11 | Flighty | simonrvn: half an hour ago the cdrom opend when hold the mouse button pressed |
| 20:52.32 | simonrvn | command is the apple key, option is the alt key |
| 20:52.47 | Flighty | thanks |
| 20:53.00 | simonrvn | hold those 2 down then hold p and r, right after you reset it, and hear the boing |
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| 21:00.43 | simonrvn | Flighty: BTW, that machine is a newworld machine, so you know |
| 21:01.18 | Flighty | got it and used ur mac-fdisk manual |
| 21:01.30 | simonrvn | cool |
| 21:01.34 | Flighty | let`s hope he`ll boot this time |
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| 21:06.53 | Dizzutch[work] | guys, is there a way to rebuild modversions.h |
| 21:08.28 | simonrvn | yup. hm, try moving it away, maybe it'll get re-created. if it does, then you can delete the old one |
| 21:09.34 | Dizzutch[work] | alright |
| 21:09.45 | Dizzutch[work] | cuz nvidia installer was giving me some errors under 2.6.9 |
| 21:09.49 | Dizzutch[work] | 9=0 |
| 21:12.59 | Dizzutch[work] | should modversions.h be copied out of the kernel-source tree? |
| 21:13.21 | Dizzutch[work] | cuz i can only find it in /usr/src/linux/includes/config and /usr/src/kernel-headers/.../ |
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| 21:14.22 | Dizzutch[work] | ERROR: The kernel header file |
| 21:14.22 | Dizzutch[work] | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.22 | Dizzutch[work] | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.22 | Dizzutch[work] | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.22 | Dizzutch[work] | ERROR: Installation has failed. Please see the file |
| 21:14.24 | Dizzutch[work] | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.26 | Dizzutch[work] | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.29 | Dizzutch[work] | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.31 | Dizzutch[work] | there's the error |
| 21:14.32 | Dizzutch[work] | (sorry for the flood) |
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| 21:17.25 | benoit | hi there |
| 21:19.44 | benoit | i'm searching some information on how to compile 2.6.0 kernel on ppc |
| 21:19.53 | benoit | where are the benh patches ? |
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| 21:21.15 | mmaddin | benoit: the /topic tells you about the rsync source for 2.6.0-benh |
| 21:21.25 | mmaddin | dunno about separate patches |
| 21:21.43 | benoit | i've never used rsync yet. |
| 21:22.07 | benoit | i'm gonna try. but it talks about 2.5. |
| 21:22.37 | Flighty | uhm how is the shortcut to choose the partition to boot from? |
| 21:22.49 | Flighty | simonrvn: doesn`t boot again. |
| 21:23.50 | mmaddin | benoit: yes, the path says 2.5, but it really is 2.6.0 |
| 21:23.59 | benoit | ok. |
| 21:24.10 | benoit | so, that will retrive a 2.6.0 tree ? entirely ? |
| 21:24.32 | mmaddin | on the first run: yes. and only the changes on a second run. |
| 21:25.26 | benoit | ok. |
| 21:25.47 | benoit | i'm running it over a 56k link. will it work ? |
| 21:25.56 | mmaddin | will take some time ;) |
| 21:26.02 | benoit | ok... |
| 21:28.09 | benoit | it's downloading ... |
| 21:28.26 | benoit | is someone using an ibook g4 here ? |
| 21:28.47 | benoit | i use linux on it for more than 24H hours continuously |
| 21:29.07 | benoit | and the hard drive stops working properly (dma errors, ide reset, ...) |
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| 21:35.05 | benoit | ok. anyway. |
| 21:35.07 | benoit | i'm gonna reboot |
| 21:36.37 | simonrvn | Flighty: when you installed, you did 'make system bootable' ? |
| 21:36.47 | Flighty | yepp |
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| 21:40.05 | simonrvn | boot to cd again |
| 21:40.19 | Flighty | ok, and then? |
| 21:40.52 | simonrvn | go to vt2, then chroot to /target once it's mounted |
| 21:41.29 | simonrvn | then mount /proc, and run ybin |
| 21:45.20 | Flighty | ok, i did |
| 21:45.27 | Flighty | no errors or something |
| 21:45.31 | simonrvn | ok |
| 21:45.51 | simonrvn | what's boot-device showing up as? nvsetenv boot-device |
| 21:47.28 | Flighty | boot-device=hd:2,\\:tbxi |
| 21:47.58 | simonrvn | is that the right drive - the 2 - ? |
| 21:48.16 | Flighty | yepp |
| 21:48.30 | Flighty | hda2 is the Apple_Bootstrap |
| 21:48.36 | simonrvn | ok |
| 21:48.47 | simonrvn | try booting now |
| 21:49.08 | Flighty | mkofboot -v <= what about that? |
| 21:49.17 | Flighty | a friend told me |
| 21:49.43 | simonrvn | yeh try that |
| 21:49.48 | Flighty | any flags? |
| 21:49.49 | simonrvn | sec i think i have it |
| 21:50.17 | simonrvn | Update/install bootloader onto a bootstrap partition. |
| 21:50.39 | simonrvn | that's only if it'S the first time i think. not sure though. lemme check the man page |
| 21:50.58 | simonrvn | mkofboot - format bootstrap partition and install the yaboot boot loader |
| 21:51.06 | simonrvn | mkofboot does exactly the same thing as ybin(8) except that it erases and creates a new |
| 21:51.09 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.12 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.15 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.51 | simonrvn | --filesystem The default is |
| 21:51.51 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.01 | Flighty | hm "finding OpenFirmware device path to /dev/hda2 |
| 21:53.31 | Flighty | "create hfs filesystem on /dev/hda2? (n/Y): |
| 21:53.34 | Flighty | err |
| 21:53.40 | Flighty | (y/N) |
| 21:53.44 | Flighty | he suggest no |
| 21:53.46 | simonrvn | default is yes. and do so |
| 21:53.55 | simonrvn | on a mac you need it |
| 21:53.55 | Flighty | sorry typo |
| 21:54.03 | Flighty | ok so i`l say yes |
| 21:57.32 | Flighty | "starting second stage bootstrap" |
| 21:57.46 | simonrvn | still barfs? |
| 21:57.53 | Flighty | there he hangs again - blinking with ? / apple face |
| 21:57.56 | simonrvn | oh wait |
| 21:58.32 | simonrvn | doh. what kind of g4 is that? a recent one? |
| 21:58.37 | Flighty | btw. there is no mac os installed - only linux on it |
| 21:58.46 | Flighty | recent uhm 1 year old about |
| 21:59.03 | Flighty | one of the "awesome loud" series ;) |
| 22:06.40 | simonrvn | oh ok. you need a recent yaboot on those. "windtunnel" needs 1.3.10+ |
| 22:07.24 | simonrvn | or 1.3.9+ can't remember which. woody's is too old. so you'll need to get a newer one onto that install, and run ybin again |
| 22:07.42 | simonrvn | that'll work. i should have asked before.. sorry |
| 22:07.52 | simonrvn | (i usually do ask before) |
| 22:10.05 | Flighty | i normally rtfm and don`t ask ;) |
| 22:10.11 | Flighty | thanks a lot |
| 22:10.30 | Flighty | so if i can get the cdrom open again..... |
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| 22:11.36 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 22:11.42 | Flighty | keeping mousebutton pressed doesn`t work again - i did the reset and it won`t work |
| 22:12.06 | Flighty | i will never buy a computer wich hasn`t keys on it`s cdrom drive - since today |
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| 22:15.49 | simonrvn | there's a hole you can insert a paperclip into.. |
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| 22:16.51 | Flighty | ahh ;) |
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| 22:19.54 | farruinn | I can't access http://127.0.0.1:631/admin |
| 22:20.11 | farruinn | there's no firewall or anything, why do I get an error, "connection refused" |
| 22:21.18 | jockel | farruinn: what does netstat -lpn say |
| 22:21.41 | jockel | netstat -lpn | grep 631 |
| 22:23.53 | farruinn | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 22:24.19 | jockel | farruinn: looks good |
| 22:24.36 | jockel | now do a "telnet localhost 631" |
| 22:25.18 | farruinn | hm, that is taking quite some time |
| 22:26.49 | farruinn | should it take this long, it's still "trying 127.0.0.1" |
| 22:26.53 | jockel | strange |
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| 22:27.59 | jockel | perhaps /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny ? |
| 22:28.08 | farruinn | samething with just telnet localhost |
| 22:28.10 | farruinn | ok, i'll check |
| 22:30.02 | Flighty | simonrvn: err a g4 can use a normal woody mirror? why is that? i just used deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib to install ssh - and it worked.... |
| 22:34.53 | simonrvn | Flighty: yes |
| 22:35.09 | simonrvn | why wouldn't it? |
| 22:35.20 | Flighty | but the deb`s are x86 bin`s? |
| 22:35.30 | Flighty | they are already compiled... |
| 22:36.13 | simonrvn | uh, no... not only. fo take a looksie sometimes on one of the mirrors |
| 22:36.21 | simonrvn | s/fo/go/ |
| 22:36.33 | marco_g | mortehu: I have the idea that a firmware update is required to get the airport card to work in GNU/Linux. |
| 22:36.33 | simonrvn | s/sometimes/sometime/ |
| 22:36.51 | marco_g | mortehu: Unfortunately I can't test that because I don't have macosx |
| 22:36.55 | simonrvn | x86-centric geek world.. *sigh* |
| 22:36.56 | Flighty | so i could switch to sid, and my "old version" problem is gone? |
| 22:37.13 | simonrvn | yeh. but you gotta get it going first =) |
| 22:37.28 | Flighty | no big deal ;D |
| 22:37.28 | simonrvn | testing should have a newer one too |
| 22:37.53 | Flighty | i made chroot, and could switch now.. |
| 22:37.58 | simonrvn | oh ok |
| 22:38.17 | Flighty | but one thing really scares me |
| 22:38.28 | simonrvn | what? |
| 22:38.51 | Flighty | cpuinfo tells me, there is only one computer with 800 mhz - and it`s unknown |
| 22:39.37 | simonrvn | can you paste here? |
| 22:39.53 | Flighty | have a look: http://nopaste.php-q.net/30055 |
| 22:40.01 | simonrvn | k |
| 22:40.53 | simonrvn | probably your kernel. no biggie |
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| 22:41.53 | simonrvn | newer machines should go for newer s/w anyway, so stuff like that don't show up |
| 22:42.40 | farruinn | I think I know what's wrong now - rpc services aren't enabled for some reason |
| 22:42.47 | simonrvn | brb |
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| 22:43.27 | farruinn | I rememberd getting a message at boot saying that the portmapper (I think that's what it was) was disabled |
| 22:44.30 | Flighty | uhm |
| 22:44.42 | Flighty | simonrvn: sid don`t wants to upgrade the mac stuff |
| 22:44.58 | simonrvn | what do you mean? |
| 22:45.00 | Flighty | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 22:45.00 | Flighty | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.00 | Flighty | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.00 | Flighty | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.19 | Flighty | <simonrvn> oh ok. you need a recent yaboot on those. "windtunnel" needs 1.3.10+ |
| 22:45.21 | simonrvn | and? |
| 22:45.34 | Flighty | so apt don`t want to update it? |
| 22:45.41 | Flighty | or is it in a meta package? |
| 22:45.43 | simonrvn | this is sid? |
| 22:45.57 | simonrvn | oh just apt-get it then :) |
| 22:46.01 | Flighty | gonna be sid, if i say y ;) |
| 22:46.17 | simonrvn | heh |
| 22:46.28 | simonrvn | well do that first, then get yaboot |
| 22:46.34 | Flighty | kk |
| 22:47.15 | simonrvn | and watch the install msgs for yaboot, it will *not* update the bootstrap part. |
| 22:47.24 | simonrvn | you need to do it manually |
| 22:47.43 | Flighty | i tought: hey, let`s take the mac with me into vacation - install debian quickly, enlarge my vpenis, compile a lot with distcc - great.... but - quickly missed ;) |
| 22:48.47 | simonrvn | heheh |
| 22:49.16 | simonrvn | you're almost done pretty much |
| 22:49.42 | Flighty | simonrvn: i never upgraded to sid within an installation |
| 22:49.53 | simonrvn | i have =) |
| 22:50.01 | Flighty | i hope this will not cause problems |
| 22:50.04 | simonrvn | no |
| 22:50.14 | simonrvn | sid has been bahaving recently |
| 22:50.17 | simonrvn | be* |
| 22:51.49 | simonrvn | you should see the 'G5's ;) |
| 22:52.11 | simonrvn | ok, a coffee, then i gotta go pretty soon |
| 22:52.25 | Flighty | i could have take one with me too, but like this one, only without hdd`s - ans i don`t got sata hdd`s |
| 22:53.45 | Flighty | Setting up yaboot (1.3.11-1) ... |
| 22:53.45 | Flighty | The bootblock is not automatically updated by installation of this package; |
| 22:53.45 | Flighty | run 'ybin' to update it. |
| 22:53.56 | Flighty | you were right ;) |
| 22:55.36 | simonrvn | i have it installed ;) |
| 22:56.04 | simonrvn | (don't need it, but it's installed anyway, it's got some useful binaries in the package) |
| 22:56.55 | Flighty | (none):~# ybin |
| 22:56.55 | Flighty | ofpath: WARNING: Your kernel is too old for proper support, device may be innaccurate. |
| 22:57.26 | simonrvn | ah yeh. upgrade kernel too |
| 22:57.32 | Flighty | building a kernel is same like in x86? |
| 22:57.43 | simonrvn | kinda. i'd just use make-kpkg |
| 22:57.46 | Flighty | i mean, most things... |
| 22:57.47 | Flighty | ya |
| 22:58.08 | Flighty | how about the hardware? |
| 22:58.08 | Flighty | lspci don`t help much |
| 22:58.42 | Flighty | http://nopaste.php-q.net/30055 |
| 22:58.45 | simonrvn | sec |
| 23:00.32 | simonrvn | yeh that's the kernel |
| 23:02.57 | Stereo | I'm going to code a new program called apt-stab. Give it a package name and it will automatically mark the maintainer as stupid. When enough people mark the maintainer as stupid, there's a warning when you install one of the maintainer's packages and a strong warning when you install a package people complain about. I'll achieve instant fame and glory. |
| 23:03.15 | simonrvn | hehehehe |
| 23:03.20 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 23:04.03 | Stereo | who the fudge does that guy think he is to forcce me to go through the fudging configure script and web page every time he adds a new function to the package? |
| 23:04.29 | Jeedo | Stereo: gallery? |
| 23:04.35 | Flighty | <simonrvn> yeh that's the kernel <= ? |
| 23:04.39 | Stereo | yeah Jeedo |
| 23:04.54 | Jeedo | hehe, yeah, that is annoying |
| 23:04.55 | Flighty | i meant the lspci - unkown device .... |
| 23:04.57 | Stereo | as the name says, it's an image gallery |
| 23:05.38 | Jeedo | they're kinda strange, i reported a bug to them and they wouldnt remove it because some users had grown used to it |
| 23:05.58 | simonrvn | Flighty: update the kernel. lspci will show good stuff |
| 23:06.02 | Jeedo | btw. "fuck" is a cute word, use it;= |
| 23:06.50 | simonrvn | btw i've tried to use gallery; i promptly --purged it after 10 minutes |
| 23:06.59 | Stereo | the guy added a couple of functions like voting. I don't give a crap, nobody's going to vote on my cat's pictures. But I have to spend 15 minutes going through the bloody thing to get it to work again |
| 23:07.10 | Jeedo | hehe |
| 23:07.27 | Jeedo | Stereo: actually you only have to enter like 3 options if you've configured it before |
| 23:07.30 | Jeedo | password |
| 23:07.46 | Jeedo | then you just press "okey" trough the whole thing |
| 23:08.58 | Stereo | I'm used to use fudge, autocompletes everywhere, never gets me censored. I'll try to use fuck if fudge is considered rude here :) |
| 23:09.10 | Flighty | simonrvn: when i want to configure a kernel i should know which hardware is included ;) |
| 23:09.28 | bddebian | rebooting 2.4.22 kernel. If it fails, I blame simonrvn |
| 23:09.35 | simonrvn | yeh yeh |
| 23:09.43 | bddebian | FUCK |
| 23:09.45 | simonrvn | Flighty: goodpoint =) |
| 23:09.49 | Stereo | if you're not sure, compile it as a module |
| 23:09.54 | bddebian | Kernel panic: mesh: double DMA start ! |
| 23:10.04 | simonrvn | i'd google for a .config for windtunnel g4 |
| 23:10.24 | Stereo | Jeedo: it's still obnoxious |
| 23:10.30 | simonrvn | bddebian: what machine is this? |
| 23:10.48 | Jeedo | Stereo: indeed |
| 23:11.17 | bddebian | simonrvn: Powerbook G3 "Wallstreet" |
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| 23:11.26 | simonrvn | oh yeh |
| 23:11.42 | Flighty | simonrvn: "windtunnel"? |
| 23:11.47 | Flighty | ;) |
| 23:11.52 | simonrvn | yes ;) |
| 23:12.20 | simonrvn | bddebian: dunno dude. i'm at a loss for answers |
| 23:12.23 | bddebian | Well google has dick on that error.. :-( |
| 23:12.48 | simonrvn | first time i've seen it |
| 23:12.58 | simonrvn | i'd ask of the hackers in #mklinux |
| 23:13.03 | simonrvn | one of the* |
| 23:14.11 | marco_g | bddebian: What are you trying to do all the time? |
| 23:14.26 | simonrvn | @wayttd bddebian |
| 23:14.28 | bddebian | marco_g: Just build a fucking 2.4 kernel.. |
| 23:14.31 | ravenbird | What Are You Trying To Do, bddebian? |
| 23:15.10 | bddebian | @kick marco_g in the nuts! |
| 23:15.12 | simonrvn | i think i'll reboot to 2.6 before i leave |
| 23:15.15 | marco_g | bddebian: Why won't you try 2.4.23? |
| 23:15.23 | bddebian | I didn't see the source for it?? |
| 23:15.24 | marco_g | bddebian: HEY!? |
| 23:15.39 | simonrvn | bddebian: dude, chill |
| 23:15.40 | bddebian | :-0 |
| 23:15.40 | marco_g | bddebian: www.kernel.org? :) |
| 23:15.56 | bddebian | simonrvn: I am playing. I love marco_g! :-) |
| 23:15.59 | simonrvn | rsync benh 2.4 devel or stable |
| 23:16.05 | marco_g | simonrvn: He hates me, that's ok. :) |
| 23:16.13 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 23:16.23 | marco_g | I like linux 2.6, it works great on my pb. |
| 23:16.37 | simonrvn | i need to finish my rsync first |
| 23:16.39 | bddebian | marco_g: That's not true. You know you are my hero or I wouldn't have sent you the Pismo!! :-) |
| 23:16.45 | marco_g | bddebian: *G* ;) |
| 23:17.02 | simonrvn | oh he's the guy you gave the pismo? cool |
| 23:17.16 | bighawk | linux 2.6 still crashes immediately here :/ |
| 23:17.17 | marco_g | bddebian: I should do some useful hacking on it before you regret you did. :( |
| 23:17.24 | bddebian | He |
| 23:17.27 | bddebian | simonrvn: Yes. |
| 23:17.36 | marco_g | bddebian: Like porting PUPA. |
| 23:17.42 | marco_g | Oh, I forgot, you hate PUPA :P |
| 23:18.32 | marco_g | Does someone have a quick solution for me to upgrade the airport firmware without having macos? |
| 23:18.36 | marco_g | Like a bootcd? |
| 23:18.49 | marco_g | Or is it not allowed to ask such things? :) |
| 23:19.06 | simonrvn | if you have a licence, np |
| 23:19.16 | simonrvn | not from me though |
| 23:19.39 | simonrvn | though it'S generally frowned upon |
| 23:19.45 | Flighty | simonrvn: powermacG4 != windtunnel g4? |
| 23:20.02 | simonrvn | WT G4 = pamc G4 |
| 23:20.05 | simonrvn | mac* |
| 23:20.10 | arcady | there's been many powermacs G4 |
| 23:20.15 | simonrvn | yup |
| 23:20.24 | Flighty | uhm |
| 23:20.34 | Flighty | pamac? |
| 23:20.39 | simonrvn | pmac |
| 23:20.51 | marco_g | simonrvn: That's the problem, I won't buy osx for one firmware update they shoudl've done at apple in the first place. ;) |
| 23:21.20 | simonrvn | maybe you can do it from OF? |
| 23:21.37 | marco_g | Do you think so? |
| 23:21.44 | marco_g | How would that work? |
| 23:21.56 | Flighty | anyone in here got a "pmac" or windtunnel - or just an dual g4? ;) |
| 23:22.45 | bighawk | simonrvn? |
| 23:23.02 | bighawk | simonrvn: when your 2.6.0 panic'd, was it with 'grow_buffers' in fs/buffer.c ? |
| 23:23.27 | Flighty | (X) 6xx/7xx/74xx/8260 <=? |
| 23:23.29 | bighawk | it indeed crashes on hfs |
| 23:25.48 | bddebian | marco_g: Yeah, get PUPA going!! :-) And I don't hate PUPA!!! |
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| 23:27.39 | marco_g | bddebian: You always tell me yaboot is better. |
| 23:27.40 | marco_g | :P |
| 23:28.05 | marco_g | bddebian: I'll try to do that in my vacation. |
| 23:28.13 | bddebian | marco_g: I didn't say that. Just that the idea behind yaboot2 seemed cleaner.. :-) |
| 23:29.08 | marco_g | *G* |
| 23:29.32 | marco_g | bddebian: Believe me when I say PUPA is clean. :) |
| 23:31.02 | bddebian | marco_g: I know PUPA is clean but with prom-libc there wouldn't be a need for pupa_ crap. :-0 |
| 23:33.26 | marco_g | heh |
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| 23:52.27 | marco_g | bye |
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