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| 00:20.01 | bighawk | wow, got 2.6.0 working now |
| 00:20.05 | bighawk | and the unstable lcd lines are gone |
| 00:21.25 | Curalton | hmm, here my console font goes fuzzy once i shutdown X |
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| 00:39.55 | TheBonsai | aye |
| 00:42.13 | TheBonsai | anyone got compiling problems (benh tree, also 2.5/2.6 from kernel.org) in arch/ppc/syslib? |
| 00:43.24 | TheBonsai | {xmb}: oh, hi ;) |
| 00:43.29 | {xmb} | hehe, morning |
| 00:43.35 | Curalton | lol |
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| 00:43.42 | Curalton | all #bash ppl end here :) |
| 00:43.54 | TheBonsai | lol |
| 00:44.03 | Curalton | TheBonsai: my 2.6 just compiled fine here on my ibook |
| 00:44.28 | TheBonsai | Curalton: trying to cross-compile for a 4xx processor |
| 00:44.42 | Curalton | *eek* |
| 00:44.58 | TheBonsai | means exactly what? |
| 00:44.59 | TheBonsai | ;) |
| 00:46.08 | Curalton | means i don't want to have anything to do with it - crosscompiling, that is |
| 00:46.56 | TheBonsai | hehe |
| 00:47.10 | TheBonsai | i already got grey hair enough ;) |
| 00:47.19 | jholt | I cross compiled 2.6.0 for PPC on i386 |
| 00:47.39 | jholt | and it boots just fine |
| 00:48.20 | TheBonsai | weird |
| 00:48.27 | TheBonsai | which binutils/gcc-core? |
| 00:48.30 | Curalton | TheBonsai: lol, well standart procedure take out the .config option that is closest to the foo.o file |
| 00:49.10 | jholt | TheBonsai the latest version from ftp.gnu.org |
| 00:49.29 | bddebian | Anyone know anything about a kernel panic with mesh on a PowerBook G3? |
| 00:49.40 | TheBonsai | Curalton: might be bad in arch-dependent syslib ;) |
| 00:49.45 | jholt | gcc 3.3.2 and binutils 2.14.90 |
| 00:50.42 | TheBonsai | jholt: it's an assembler error message. and i have no clue where (assembler reports from stdin stream) |
| 00:51.13 | Curalton | TheBonsai: oh, ic. thought i was some stupid driver as usual :) |
| 00:52.05 | jholt | bddebian, mesh is only about 95% stable still |
| 00:52.16 | bddebian | This is on 2.4.22.. |
| 00:52.44 | TheBonsai | Curalton: bah, who needs syslib ;) |
| 00:54.22 | JimButton | is it possible or easy to setup that the module sbp2 always gets removed when firewire disconnects, get reloaded upon connection and in addition rescan-scsi-bus is run, too? |
| 00:54.31 | JimButton | does anybody has some sort of setup like that? |
| 00:54.48 | TheBonsai | there's some hotplug manager on sourceforge |
| 00:54.58 | JimButton | i have hotplug here, the debian package |
| 00:55.15 | JimButton | probably i should just read all the docs... |
| 00:55.32 | TheBonsai | well, with the right config, it should do |
| 00:55.32 | JimButton | it seems a bit silly to always unload and reload the module |
| 00:55.38 | JimButton | but apparently it gets stuck sometimes |
| 00:55.38 | Curalton | find /lib/modules/2.6.0-benh1-ibook -iname '*syslib*' doesn't find anything here... |
| 00:55.48 | JimButton | like when i disconnect the cd writer and connect the ipod |
| 00:55.59 | JimButton | then rescan-scsi-bus does not detect the ipod |
| 00:56.10 | TheBonsai | Curalton: it's not a module, it's base of the kernel |
| 00:56.43 | TheBonsai | Curalton: so i can't remove it. a kernel w/o kernel is .. erm... boring? |
| 00:57.36 | TheBonsai | JimButton: it's not my ressort, sorry |
| 00:57.53 | JimButton | TheBonsai: don't mind, thanks anyway |
| 00:58.02 | TheBonsai | JimButton: in difference to USB, firewire needs a bus reset sometimes on device change |
| 00:58.20 | Curalton | TheBonsai: *g* |
| 00:58.24 | JimButton | yes, but i thought rescan-scsi-bus does that |
| 00:58.30 | JimButton | well, anyway |
| 00:58.34 | JimButton | it works reasonably well |
| 00:58.45 | JimButton | only problem is all the typing involved :) |
| 00:59.48 | TheBonsai | heh |
| 01:00.57 | bddebian | jholt: So how do I fix it? |
| 01:01.06 | JimButton | anyway, a more urgent thing is to fix the duplicate detection of gnupod-tools |
| 01:01.12 | JimButton | it is broken beyond belief |
| 01:03.24 | jholt | bddebian, mesh is just unstable most of the time it works fines |
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| 01:03.33 | spacecowboy | howdy all :) |
| 01:03.35 | spacecowboy | @kernel |
| 01:04.18 | jholt | but sometimes it just flakes out just have to live with periodic reboots |
| 01:06.06 | bddebian | jholt: It causes kernel panic for me every time.. :-( |
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| 01:14.03 | TheBonsai | ppc4xx_setup.c: In function `ppc4xx_calibrate_decr': |
| 01:14.03 | TheBonsai | ppc4xx_setup.c:247: structure has no member named `bi_tbfreq' |
| 01:14.03 | TheBonsai | make[1]: *** [ppc4xx_setup.o] Fehler 1 |
| 01:14.03 | TheBonsai | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bonsai/ppc_ns_110/x-devel/sources/linux-2.4.23/arch/ppc/kernel' |
| 01:14.03 | TheBonsai | make: *** [_dir_arch/ppc/kernel] Fehler 2 |
| 01:14.03 | TheBonsai | [bonsai@mainserver linux-2.4.23]$ |
| 01:14.09 | TheBonsai | i get mad |
| 01:14.11 | TheBonsai | giving up for today |
| 01:14.51 | TheBonsai | 17 hours, and still no step ahead |
| 01:16.55 | TheBonsai | hm |
| 01:17.03 | TheBonsai | does benh include 2.4.x? |
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| 01:21.41 | rustybofh | hi folks |
| 01:24.04 | simonrvn | TheBonsai: yes it does |
| 01:24.18 | simonrvn | (speaking reomtely) |
| 01:24.44 | TheBonsai | simonrvn: just got the list from rsync command (didn't think of that, sorry) |
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| 01:26.08 | simonrvn | zsh rocks for that, 2xtab, and you get the list ;) |
| 01:26.32 | Dizzutch | is the GMAC Ethernet card built into 2.6.0? |
| 01:26.40 | TheBonsai | heh |
| 01:26.40 | Dizzutch | cuz i only see a BMAC module |
| 01:26.49 | simonrvn | only if you build it in |
| 01:27.02 | simonrvn | @2.6 rtfm |
| 01:27.02 | ravenbird | 2.6 rtfm is probably see halloween text |
| 01:27.08 | Dizzutch | well yeah, but i don't see the option |
| 01:27.13 | simonrvn | @halloween text |
| 01:27.14 | ravenbird | http://www.linux.org.uk/~davej/docs/post-halloween-2.6.txt-devel |
| 01:27.31 | Dizzutch | i thought this channel was the manual..:) |
| 01:27.32 | Dizzutch | j/k |
| 01:27.41 | simonrvn | haha |
| 01:27.45 | simonrvn | :) |
| 01:28.01 | Flighty | simonrvn: my system is running |
| 01:28.15 | simonrvn | yay |
| 01:28.17 | Flighty | simonrvn: i just used another iso *rolleyes* |
| 01:28.35 | simonrvn | ok. one in the topic perchance? |
| 01:28.42 | Flighty | yepp |
| 01:29.00 | Flighty | wanted to test xfs anyway ;) |
| 01:29.03 | simonrvn | ah, good |
| 01:29.08 | simonrvn | heh |
| 01:29.20 | Dizzutch | has any of you successfully used CONFIG_LOGO? |
| 01:29.31 | simonrvn | 2.6, or 2.4? |
| 01:29.40 | Dizzutch | 2.6 |
| 01:29.48 | TheBonsai | yes, on an athlon |
| 01:29.51 | simonrvn | haven't bothered |
| 01:30.01 | Dizzutch | i can't find anything about it on google |
| 01:30.55 | bighawk | config_logo seems to fuck up some times for me |
| 01:30.57 | bighawk | i removed it |
| 01:31.00 | Flighty | uhm - is there a folding@home client for running with linux, on a ppc? |
| 01:31.10 | bighawk | sometimes, when i'm in console, the upper few lines which are used for the logo stay unusable |
| 01:31.55 | Dizzutch | i don't see a logo at all |
| 01:32.49 | rustybofh | anybody has working bootsplash? |
| 01:32.52 | rustybofh | with powerbook? |
| 01:33.04 | Dizzutch | i'm trying it on a iBook G3 |
| 01:33.08 | Dizzutch | no success as of now |
| 01:33.19 | rustybofh | me too Dizzutch |
| 01:33.24 | Dizzutch | i'm going to try it on my ix86 at work tomorrow. |
| 01:33.26 | rustybofh | i canīt get it work |
| 01:33.31 | rustybofh | Dizzutch |
| 01:33.33 | Dizzutch | are there docs for it anywhere? |
| 01:33.50 | rustybofh | i could get working in a Dell Inspiron 8200 properly |
| 01:33.58 | rustybofh | but in this Alu 17" |
| 01:34.00 | rustybofh | i couldnīt |
| 01:34.40 | rustybofh | i saw anything about it in gentoo-ppc forums |
| 01:34.46 | Dizzutch | hmmm |
| 01:34.50 | Dizzutch | i have a dell |
| 01:34.53 | Dizzutch | not sure about the number |
| 01:34.59 | rustybofh | sorry if my english isntīt very good |
| 01:35.01 | rustybofh | :-) |
| 01:35.01 | Dizzutch | something like the 8200 |
| 01:35.08 | Dizzutch | not a problem rustybofh |
| 01:35.35 | rustybofh | Dizzutch in this laptop you donīt have any problem to get it working |
| 01:35.45 | rustybofh | bootsplash.org |
| 01:36.06 | Dizzutch | with 2.6.0? |
| 01:36.11 | rustybofh | do you want an url to a good article about configuration? |
| 01:36.35 | rustybofh | es |
| 01:36.36 | rustybofh | yes |
| 01:36.39 | rustybofh | with 2.6 too |
| 01:36.43 | Dizzutch | sweet |
| 01:36.46 | Dizzutch | i'll check it out |
| 01:36.48 | rustybofh | are there a patch on the net |
| 01:36.56 | Dizzutch | sure, i'll take the URL i'll bookmark it |
| 01:37.02 | rustybofh | wait a minute |
| 01:38.56 | rustybofh | i couldnīt find the english version |
| 01:39.06 | rustybofh | wait a minute again |
| 01:39.07 | rustybofh | :-) |
| 01:39.27 | rustybofh | http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1812 |
| 01:39.28 | rustybofh | yeahh |
| 01:39.31 | rustybofh | i got it! |
| 01:42.23 | Dizzutch | thanks |
| 01:42.26 | Dizzutch | i'll check it out |
| 01:42.50 | rustybofh | ok |
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| 01:47.21 | TheBonsai | *sigh* |
| 01:47.30 | TheBonsai | now trying with another gcc-core |
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| 01:48.24 | Trahald` | hey has anyone here set up ppp on lombard? |
| 01:52.43 | bighawk | heh |
| 01:52.53 | bighawk | gcc in debian unstable gives an internal compiler error on compiling mplayer |
| 01:53.15 | TheBonsai | i have a workaround for that |
| 01:53.18 | TheBonsai | use xine |
| 01:53.19 | TheBonsai | ;) |
| 01:53.53 | simonrvn | pppconfig :) |
| 01:55.38 | Trahald` | simonrvn: I mean the modem, I need to make it /dev/ttySO, which does not exist, and I cant seem to find the modules or patches for the kernel |
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| 02:02.26 | bighawk | nah, i fixed it |
| 02:02.32 | bighawk | i installed gcc-3.2, and compiled the file with that |
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| 02:49.09 | bddebppc | What packages to I need to do a make xconfig? |
| 02:53.09 | rustybofh | see Documentation/Changes |
| 02:58.32 | bddebppc | Well I thought it was tk that I was missing but I am getting an error about no DISPLAY?? |
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| 04:01.02 | bddebian | Well kiss my ass, 2.4.22 boots OK all of the sudden..?? |
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| 04:30.03 | comar | something make my HD very busy... how could I know what is it ? |
| 04:30.16 | comar | I found nothing in the logs |
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| 05:31.29 | nsomniQ | hi all |
| 05:31.31 | nsomniQ | anyone alive? |
| 05:32.51 | bddebian | heello nsomniQ |
| 05:33.32 | nsomniQ | bddebian: u ever used the ppcbug firmware? |
| 05:33.59 | bddebian | since I have never heard of it, I am guessing not. :-) |
| 05:34.20 | nsomniQ | doh... |
| 05:34.45 | nsomniQ | got an old motorola mtx motherboard that I can't figure out how to netboot(got docs, think I have the command right, but no blinkenlightzen) |
| 05:35.21 | bddebian | It's not OpenFirmware? |
| 05:35.27 | nsomniQ | nope. |
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| 05:42.51 | bddebian | what's the best way to see if my Orinocco WLAN card is even being seen? |
| 05:47.20 | nsomniQ | lspci? |
| 05:47.35 | nsomniQ | is it a pcmcia bridge card, or full-fledged pci? |
| 05:47.39 | bddebian | I tried that.. :-( |
| 05:47.45 | bddebian | pcmcia |
| 05:47.50 | nsomniQ | in a laptop? |
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| 05:48.07 | bddebppc | Yes, Powerbook G3 |
| 05:48.20 | nsomniQ | mm.. u've modprobe'd the right module? |
| 05:48.44 | bddebppc | Not sure what the right module is.. :-) |
| 05:48.50 | nsomniQ | ahh.. heh heh... |
| 05:49.09 | nsomniQ | I'd say you should see mention of the device when you modprobe the right module, assuming it will detect the device without needing special module options. |
| 05:49.18 | bddebppc | That's kinda why I was hoping to see it was recognized to make sure I have the right chipset module. :-) |
| 05:50.23 | nsomniQ | it probably won't be recognized until you insert the right module, which is a nice chicken/egg problem huh? |
| 05:50.34 | nsomniQ | i know my regular ethernet cards work like that. |
| 05:50.50 | kimo_sabe | pcmcia != PCI |
| 05:50.53 | kimo_sabe | cardctl ident |
| 05:50.53 | nsomniQ | u could always compile a kernel with every wlan driver included? |
| 05:51.01 | nsomniQ | ahh... someone wiser than I speaks :) |
| 05:51.27 | kimo_sabe | PCMCIA drivers have to be bound from userspace, with card services |
| 05:51.38 | bddebppc | kimo_sabe: Thanks. Hmm, no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices.. :-( |
| 05:53.05 | bddebppc | I noticed something booting up about modprode not being able to find i8235..?? :-( |
| 05:54.02 | nsomniQ | that may be your pcmcia bridge chipset? |
| 05:54.09 | nsomniQ | err. pcmcia chipset? |
| 05:54.39 | bddebppc | I suppose. These things are supposed to have TI chipsets.. :-) |
| 05:55.14 | nsomniQ | u probably shouldn't listen to what I say :) |
| 05:55.56 | bddebppc | Hmm, pcmcia is loaded but not the driver services module..?? |
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| 06:12.43 | nsomniQ | feh, think I figured out my problem? |
| 06:12.53 | bddebppc | What was it? |
| 06:13.06 | nsomniQ | tcpdump shows server trying to send tftp data to tftp port of client, when client requested on port 65001-ish |
| 06:13.19 | nsomniQ | that's what this means, right? |
| 06:13.22 | nsomniQ | 00:13:01.127466 gw.65001 > 192.168.1.10.tftp: 24 RRQ "bootfull.bin" |
| 06:13.22 | nsomniQ | 00:13:01.127502 192.168.1.10 > gw: icmp: 192.168.1.10 udp port tftp unreachable [tos 0xc0] |
| 06:13.32 | nsomniQ | where gw is client, 192.168.1.10 is server |
| 06:14.22 | bddebppc | I would read that as the udp port for tftp is not available on the server. 65001 is the source port, tftp is the destination port. |
| 06:14.40 | nsomniQ | hmm. |
| 06:15.02 | bddebppc | But I'm kind of stupid so take that with a grain of salt. :-) |
| 06:15.33 | nsomniQ | well, if I run tftp client on the server machine, connected back to itself, I can connect/retrieve the file. |
| 06:16.10 | bddebppc | Then it may be a hosts issue. Is it a Linux box? Are you using iptables or host.deny files? |
| 06:16.19 | nsomniQ | dont think so... will double check. |
| 06:30.38 | bddebppc | Any luck? |
| 06:30.53 | nsomniQ | oh yeah, forgot to tell you; |
| 06:31.03 | nsomniQ | it worked great after I killed abunch of iptables reject entries :) |
| 06:31.20 | nsomniQ | box booted up all the way to an ncurses intro screen. |
| 06:31.31 | nsomniQ | detected my hard drive, things look very good so far :) |
| 06:37.02 | nsomniQ | bbdebppc thanks for the iptables and hosts suggestions |
| 06:41.49 | bddebppc | NP, glad to be of SOME use. :-) |
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| 07:25.58 | bddebppc | sourdough!! |
| 07:27.21 | sourdough | hi |
| 07:29.53 | RQ | heya |
| 07:30.41 | bddebppc | Hey, I just built a 2.4.23 kernel for this wallstreet and am trying to get my Orinocco card recognized. But if I do a cardctl ident it says no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices?? WTF? :-) |
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| 07:41.45 | RQ | hmz |
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| 08:51.08 | gilligan_ | hi |
| 08:51.26 | gilligan_ | simonrvn, do you have a life besides #debianppc ? :)) funny to see that you are always around hehe |
| 08:55.29 | gilligan_ | hm.doh |
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| 09:25.27 | myXtie | in the kernel there are 3 choices for macs, one is "ADB" with 3 button emu, busmouse (under char devices), & PS/2 mouse (under input device) |
| 09:25.46 | myXtie | the last two do not have 3 button emu |
| 09:29.26 | myXtie | a simple solution would be a usb mouse with 3 button emu (placed in mac device drivers) |
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| 09:38.31 | sourdough | myXtie device is always /dev/input/mice |
| 09:38.53 | sourdough | myXtie protocol is always IMPS/2 (for X) or ps2 / autops2 for gpm |
| 09:39.08 | drbyte | any way of getting a real media player on linuxppc? |
| 09:39.23 | sourdough | drbyte Real used to provide binaries |
| 09:39.26 | sourdough | but they sucked |
| 09:39.32 | sourdough | and are of course difficult ot find |
| 09:39.48 | drbyte | oh. ok. guess it doesn't exist anymore |
| 09:39.53 | drbyte | thanks sourdough |
| 09:40.44 | gilligan_ | talking about mice.. is there some way to disable the mouse trackpad when an external mouse is plugged in ? I often accidently touch it while typing.. |
| 09:40.46 | myXtie | soughdough I was speaking of kernel config and selections |
| 09:44.15 | nusse | output of file: "DiskToolsPPC.img: Macintosh HFS data (bootable) created: Sun Jan 11 15:52:54 1998, last modified: Sun Jan 11 17:12:28 1998, block size: 512, number of blocks: 2874..." but when i write that image with dd on a floppy, my mac wont boot it, why? |
| 09:46.02 | sourdough | drbyte you might try runing the x86 ones with qemu |
| 09:46.07 | sourdough | but its not likely to work well |
| 09:46.38 | sourdough | gilligan_ yes, tell X to use a specific mouse instead of `all' mice |
| 09:46.46 | myXtie | soughdough I see you choose adb support in config (from cd image) but removing it no 3 button emu |
| 09:46.48 | drbyte | sourdough: ah. ok. thanks |
| 09:46.50 | sourdough | gilligan_ /dev/input/mouse0 is the first connected mouse |
| 09:46.53 | sourdough | mouse1 second etc |
| 09:47.21 | sourdough | myXtie you need adb support in all macs |
| 09:47.33 | sourdough | even macs which don't have an adb port still have adb hidden away |
| 09:47.48 | myXtie | I have 2.6 running without it |
| 09:48.20 | sourdough | good for you |
| 09:48.34 | myXtie | on cube not next to me but no 3 button emu |
| 09:50.07 | sourdough | well it sounds like that requires adb support |
| 09:50.16 | sourdough | why i don't know |
| 09:50.26 | myXtie | If I choose adb the device thinks im on a really old adb type |
| 09:50.46 | myXtie | and then no mouse or keyboard |
| 09:51.19 | sourdough | in 2.6? |
| 09:51.24 | sourdough | i know nothing of 2.6 configurations |
| 09:51.25 | myXtie | yes |
| 09:51.52 | sourdough | in 2.4 you need to enable the input layer, and adb support |
| 09:51.59 | sourdough | but not the `old adb keyboard' driver |
| 09:52.03 | sourdough | or ADBKEYCODES |
| 09:52.21 | sourdough | sounds like 2.6 is just broken in this regard |
| 09:54.17 | myXtie | well remember too your cd works but the keyboard lights (number, cap lock) don't so 2.4 is not perfect with adb |
| 09:55.20 | gilligan_ | sourdough, ah,thanks |
| 09:57.47 | myXtie | thanks too sourdough just frustrated with adb, need it for 601 ppc mac but not G-4 |
| 09:58.43 | myXtie | my G-4 ( I know others need it ) |
| 10:02.00 | sourdough | myXtie on what hardware? |
| 10:02.13 | myXtie | cube |
| 10:02.19 | sourdough | hmm |
| 10:02.23 | sourdough | odd |
| 10:02.33 | myXtie | heh |
| 10:02.35 | sourdough | i would guess its a generic kernel porblem |
| 10:02.44 | sourdough | i don't think there is anything wrong with the config im using |
| 10:02.56 | sourdough | other then being discustingly bloated (necesarily..) |
| 10:03.13 | sourdough | in any event i expect users to replace my kernel shortly after install anyway |
| 10:03.25 | sourdough | installer kernels shouldn't ever be used longterm IMO |
| 10:04.58 | myXtie | I put 2.6 from sgi's cvs ( manual install ) but now doing make-kpkg on another partition to install 2.6 from kernel.org main |
| 10:05.00 | sourdough | myXtie ive heard about all sorts of wierd buglets on cube hardware |
| 10:05.19 | sourdough | i don't really know why that is.. it shouldn't be THAT different from anything else |
| 10:05.30 | myXtie | the sgi cvs went smooth |
| 10:05.46 | sourdough | i think they are pretty well merged with mainline |
| 10:05.56 | sourdough | probably missing afew recent fixes |
| 10:06.46 | myXtie | they use bk and it has been current on 2.4 but 2.6 is lagging a little |
| 10:06.56 | sourdough | tehy don't use bk |
| 10:06.59 | sourdough | they use ptools |
| 10:07.22 | sourdough | the ptools changesets are exported to bk for linus/marcelo consumption |
| 10:07.29 | sourdough | as well as exported to cvs for everyone else |
| 10:07.36 | myXtie | I see something about bk in the cvs I checkout |
| 10:07.47 | sourdough | its an export |
| 10:07.51 | myXtie | ok |
| 10:07.57 | sourdough | they use an internal SGI thing its called ptools |
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| 10:08.22 | sourdough | they need to since they keep the irix codebase maintained with that too, and the two are still synced between each other |
| 10:09.59 | sourdough | ptools is changeset based so exporting to bk is easy i bet |
| 10:10.21 | sourdough | anyway, later |
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| 12:59.47 | TheBonsai | gcc-core 3.3.2 doesn't compile with: |
| 12:59.53 | TheBonsai | config/rs6000/linux.h:99: error: storage size of `uc_mcontext' isn't known |
| 12:59.59 | TheBonsai | anything i forgot perhaps? |
| 13:03.33 | bighawk_ | include sys/ucontext.h |
| 13:04.29 | TheBonsai | in ....../linux.h? |
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| 13:08.53 | TheBonsai | what exactly do you mean? kernel headers? |
| 13:10.47 | TheBonsai | i got some internet documents with this hint, thx |
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| 13:22.43 | chlunde | I got the same problem when trying to build gcc for cross compilation. |
| 13:23.13 | TheBonsai | seems gcc-core needs the glibc headers |
| 13:23.21 | TheBonsai | i hope only the headers |
| 13:23.33 | TheBonsai | i'll try to build the headers standalone |
| 13:23.42 | LarstiQ | it does |
| 13:23.53 | LarstiQ | TheBonsai: what are you trying to do? |
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| 13:27.20 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: xcompiling a kernel for a 4xx ppc netstation (ibm) |
| 13:28.18 | TheBonsai | but it seems gcc-core needs glibc (headers?) |
| 13:28.25 | TheBonsai | and i need gcc-core to build glibc |
| 13:28.26 | TheBonsai | :) |
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| 13:37.26 | Fermat | hi |
| 13:42.07 | arcady | hello |
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| 13:50.30 | LarstiQ | TheBonsai: well, setting up a toolchain takes several steps, I use crosstool a lot for a a cross compilation toolchain, but the basics are the same. www.kegel.com/crosstool/ |
| 13:51.58 | bighawk_ | heh, crosscompiling, it's often so much work to setup properly that it's easier to get the actual hardware |
| 13:54.15 | bighawk_ | crosscompiling for standalone executables is doable though, but when you have to setup an entire environment to link to, whoah |
| 13:59.43 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: just got crosstool, now running |
| 14:01.20 | LarstiQ | bighawk_: welcome to my job ;) |
| 14:01.39 | LarstiQ | compiling natively on a 100 mhz arm is a pain |
| 14:04.02 | bighawk_ | larstiq: heh, so what's your job? |
| 14:04.35 | bighawk_ | anyway, you dont have to compile natively on 100mhz arm, you could get a faster arm box to compile on :) |
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| 14:07.19 | LarstiQ | give me a faster arm box! :) |
| 14:09.36 | bighawk_ | but what's your job? |
| 14:09.56 | bighawk_ | i believe sourceforge's compilefarm has a faster armbox for you |
| 14:11.46 | LarstiQ | bighawk_: Not sure about a title, but I end up doing a lot of toolchain tryage, different kernels, bla |
| 14:13.04 | bighawk_ | where do you work then? |
| 14:14.08 | LarstiQ | vidicode datacommunicatie bv |
| 14:14.17 | bighawk_ | uh, never heard of :) |
| 14:14.33 | LarstiQ | small (niche) company in zoetermeer :) |
| 14:14.55 | bighawk | and yes, software engineering is fun, but not jobwise |
| 14:15.13 | bighawk | because you ll almost certainly work on not so interesting projects then :), but working on your own projects is fun. |
| 14:15.20 | LarstiQ | oh, it's fun on helix |
| 14:15.26 | bighawk | helix? |
| 14:15.31 | LarstiQ | www.helixcommunity.org |
| 14:15.43 | bighawk | oh, that's the open source realplayer thing right? |
| 14:15.56 | LarstiQ | hah, sort of :) |
| 14:16.05 | bighawk | cool, you're involved in that? |
| 14:16.39 | LarstiQ | it's an audio/video framework, and real player is being built using that |
| 14:16.50 | LarstiQ | it's basically their old codebase renamed, cleaned up, etc |
| 14:17.04 | LarstiQ | bighawk: well, I wouldn't call it really involved :) |
| 14:17.12 | bighawk | what do you do then? |
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| 14:17.34 | LarstiQ | written/writing an audio codec/fileformat plugin with it |
| 14:17.44 | LarstiQ | and doing some porting |
| 14:17.56 | bighawk | the question is, did real donate the sourcecode of their real video codecs to it? |
| 14:18.18 | bighawk | or just the generic framework without their proprietary codecs |
| 14:18.39 | LarstiQ | varying levels, but the real codecs aren't open source |
| 14:18.40 | LarstiQ | smil is |
| 14:18.53 | LarstiQ | and mpeg, aac, ogg, etc |
| 14:19.07 | bighawk | yes, but can smil decode realvideo? |
| 14:19.14 | LarstiQ | nope |
| 14:19.41 | bighawk | ah, so it's still not possible to decode realvideo with true open source codecs yet :/ |
| 14:19.48 | LarstiQ | bighawk: you can get access to that source code via a license if you so wish, otherwise it's using binaries via the framework |
| 14:20.00 | bighawk | ah, too bad |
| 14:20.15 | LarstiQ | it's not realmedia I'm really interested in |
| 14:20.30 | bighawk | well, me neither, but sometimes you're stuck with the files |
| 14:20.39 | bighawk | thank god mplayer can work with the realplayer shared libraries now :) |
| 14:21.21 | bighawk | and mplayer is arguebly a better rv player than realplay, as you can apply all the standard mplayer filters to it |
| 14:22.05 | bighawk | but, doesnt sun microsystems intent to make helixplayer the default multimedia player on their desktops? (aren't they involved with helix too?) |
| 14:25.57 | LarstiQ | ericcsson and motorola are also involved, no idea about sun |
| 14:26.05 | LarstiQ | there is a solaris team working tho |
| 14:26.27 | bighawk | ok |
| 14:26.33 | LarstiQ | bighawk: helix is a framework, so mplayer can use that to make use of everything it offers if it wants |
| 14:26.58 | LarstiQ | there are within the helix project several top level clients (tlcs) already, so :) |
| 14:27.35 | bighawk | ah |
| 14:28.05 | bighawk | what audio plugin did you write then? |
| 14:28.13 | LarstiQ | bighawk: one area that has a lot of activity is symbian |
| 14:28.50 | LarstiQ | bighawk: I have the stubs ready for wmv, now I need to do the actual wmv functionality |
| 14:29.23 | LarstiQ | it's basically COM |
| 14:30.22 | LarstiQ | https://common.helixcommunity.org/nonav/2003/HCS_SDK_r5/helixsdk.htm |
| 14:31.21 | bighawk | you're planning to write full wmv decoders? |
| 14:31.27 | LarstiQ | bighawk: the three main projects using helix dna (framework), are a player, server and producer, which are open source |
| 14:32.02 | LarstiQ | bighawk: I plan to use libavcodec, and if needed extend the support |
| 14:32.33 | LarstiQ | bighawk: Microsoft wouldn't give use source code, but said 'wherever you find code is fine with us, as long as you take out a license per sold product when you release' |
| 14:32.49 | LarstiQ | reverse engineering, here we come |
| 14:33.24 | LarstiQ | or well, there was stuff for wince on arm, thanks but no thanks |
| 14:35.20 | bighawk | heh |
| 14:37.51 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: seems it builds. it gets in areas where i didn't get with manually doing |
| 14:37.59 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: thx 4 hint |
| 14:39.22 | LarstiQ | you're welcome. |
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| 15:27.47 | benoit | thanks (for the topic) |
| 15:27.51 | benoit | and bye :-) |
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| 16:29.05 | TheBonsai | hm. 2.6 doesn't compile. trying 2.4 |
| 16:38.56 | TheBonsai | ppc4xx_setup.c: In function `ppc4xx_calibrate_decr': |
| 16:38.56 | TheBonsai | ppc4xx_setup.c:247: error: structure has no member named `bi_tbfreq' |
| 16:38.56 | TheBonsai | make[1]: *** [ppc4xx_setup.o] Fehler 1 |
| 16:38.58 | TheBonsai | damn |
| 16:39.01 | TheBonsai | *giving up* |
| 16:42.07 | Dizzutch[work] | TheBonsai, are those erros from 2.6? |
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| 17:22.53 | bddebppc | Do I have to recompile my kernel to get the yenta module? |
| 17:23.09 | bighawk | yenta? |
| 17:23.20 | bddebppc | PCMCIA |
| 17:24.09 | bddebppc | *sniff, sniff* weak!! ;-P |
| 17:24.19 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 17:24.48 | bddebppc | actually it's tryin to use the i82365 module but modprobe can't find it and supposedly yenta is better..?? |
| 17:25.22 | simonrvn | try depmod -a. then try to modprobe it again |
| 17:26.32 | bddebppc | Still "Can't locate module i82365".. :-( What does depmod do? (n00b :-( ) |
| 17:27.30 | arcady | depmod calculates which module needs to have which other ones loaded before them |
| 17:27.44 | bddebppc | Ah |
| 17:28.14 | arcady | and writes out a file that modprobe uses to find the modules |
| 17:28.53 | bddebppc | OK, another n00b question. Can I just compile a module somehow? |
| 17:29.20 | simonrvn | ow! |
| 17:34.04 | jholt | I tried mklinux on a 6100/66 |
| 17:34.20 | jholt | that was brutal |
| 17:40.18 | Tartarus | bah |
| 17:40.27 | Tartarus | I remember when that was blazing fast |
| 17:40.36 | Tartarus | and we didn't even have a serial driver back then |
| 17:40.49 | jholt | I also ran NetBSD on my quadra 700 |
| 17:40.54 | arcady | I don't think the 6100 was ever fast |
| 17:41.21 | jholt | well my quadra with a 68040/25 felt faster |
| 17:41.31 | arcady | as I said |
| 17:42.26 | Tartarus | felt faster than my centris 610 :) |
| 17:42.46 | malik_ | hi everybody, a xmodmap-expert 'round by chance ? |
| 17:43.24 | arcady | I have my own xmodmap set up, I don't think that qualifies me as an "expert" though |
| 17:44.20 | bighawk | 970 is the g5 |
| 17:44.38 | bighawk | not the power4 |
| 17:45.05 | malik_ | arcady: trying to make all Meta_switch bindings (altgr) bind to Mod1 ... |
| 17:45.53 | jholt | bighawk I thought the G5 and the Power4 were the same chip |
| 17:46.07 | bighawk | no |
| 17:46.17 | bighawk | powerpc970 is a whole new chip |
| 17:46.33 | bighawk | it's a "low-end" 64bit powerpc chip by ibm |
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| 17:47.14 | jholt | low-end? |
| 17:47.18 | arcady | I think it has maybe a bit of similarity to the power4 |
| 17:47.35 | arcady | but certainly not the same |
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| 17:48.54 | jholt | ahh |
| 17:49.23 | arcady | it's much less powerful, for one thing |
| 17:49.41 | bighawk | yes it's low-end |
| 17:49.42 | jholt | I thought IBM just gave apple its top end chip |
| 17:49.45 | bighawk | from ibms point of view |
| 17:50.05 | arcady | you wouldn't want a power4 in your desktop, most likely |
| 17:50.10 | arcady | takes too much power |
| 17:50.15 | arcady | and too expensive |
| 17:50.16 | bighawk | nah, it's ok for that |
| 17:50.19 | bighawk | but i'ts too expensive |
| 17:50.29 | bighawk | ibm power4+ based workstations start at $8500 or so |
| 17:51.19 | jholt | bighawk, is that for single proccessor systems? |
| 17:51.35 | bighawk | yes |
| 17:55.05 | jholt | just looking over ibm's site hrmm ships with AIX |
| 17:55.39 | bighawk | yep |
| 17:55.46 | bighawk | aix is pretty nice |
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| 17:55.58 | bighawk | well, from version 5 |
| 17:58.03 | jholt | IBM is shipping PPC's to MS for XBox2 aswell |
| 17:59.41 | jholt | so I guess we will see Xbox2 running Linux/PPC running MOL running OSX |
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| 18:13.00 | nsomniQ | supy sup sup all |
| 18:13.11 | bddebppc | Heya nsomniQ, how goes it! |
| 18:13.16 | nsomniQ | anybody here good with/used any prep boxes? |
| 18:13.22 | nsomniQ | hi bddebppc :) |
| 18:13.53 | nsomniQ | ok... the deb installer didn't want to give me lists of packages to install, and I forget/too lazy to figure out dselect, so I'm in the middle of the default minimalist debian install :) |
| 18:14.02 | bddebppc | Pretty sad day when #hurd is more helpful than #debianppc.. ;-P |
| 18:14.08 | nsomniQ | curious about how the boot partition of the drive works/gets updated :) |
| 18:14.16 | nsomniQ | yeh bummer |
| 18:14.29 | bddebppc | nsomniQ: What loader are you using? |
| 18:14.32 | nsomniQ | (prep boxes have a 2mb partition that the firmware reads/boots off of) |
| 18:14.51 | nsomniQ | its a motorola mtx motherboard, dual 300mhz 604e's, 3 pci slots |
| 18:15.09 | nsomniQ | cpu's are passively cooled with a medium sized heatsink :) |
| 18:15.11 | bddebppc | Can it use yaboot? |
| 18:15.35 | {xmb} | i should overclock this imac here, hmm |
| 18:15.40 | nsomniQ | I'll go investigate. |
| 18:15.43 | nsomniQ | yaboot website? |
| 18:16.05 | comar | nsomniQ: see the topic ;) |
| 18:16.15 | bddebppc | nsomniQ: http://penguinppc.org/projects/yaboot |
| 18:16.22 | nsomniQ | oh heh. |
| 18:16.32 | nsomniQ | nope... it's not an OF based machine |
| 18:16.37 | nsomniQ | ppcbug firmware |
| 18:16.56 | nsomniQ | unless they use the same boot partition, then I could maybe fudge it. |
| 18:17.47 | nsomniQ | it looks like it is worth further investigation :) |
| 18:19.34 | bddebppc | Hmm, there is a package called BUGboot |
| 18:20.05 | bddebppc | http://members.home.net/mmporter/linux/ |
| 18:20.23 | nsomniQ | cool. |
| 18:20.34 | nsomniQ | cept that page appears borked/missing. |
| 18:20.40 | bddebppc | Doh |
| 18:21.11 | nsomniQ | hey, wonder if matt porter still works for motorola/mcg. |
| 18:21.17 | nsomniQ | I could look him up internally :) |
| 18:21.29 | bddebppc | Heh |
| 18:21.43 | nsomniQ | helo moto |
| 18:23.42 | jholt | if I could replace the moto G3 with a IBM model I would |
| 18:24.14 | nsomniQ | jholt: no argument from me :) |
| 18:24.35 | nsomniQ | I like my job, but I'm not blind to some of Motorola's shortcomings |
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| 18:26.42 | jholt | i wonder motorola was surprised by apple's switch |
| 18:29.22 | bighawk | probably not |
| 18:29.36 | bighawk | but they certainly didnt like it |
| 18:29.46 | arcady | I think they really had it coming for while now |
| 18:30.03 | nsomniQ | well, I think its public that the semi-conductor stuff is branched off now? |
| 18:30.35 | nsomniQ | popi == protect our proprietary info |
| 18:31.38 | jholt | are the IBM PPC's and the Moto PPC interchangible? |
| 18:31.51 | nsomniQ | biggest thing is probably pin compatability |
| 18:32.03 | nsomniQ | I would guess(but I don't work in semi-conductors) |
| 18:33.01 | nsomniQ | doh.. I just figured out why dselect/et al is borked, security still isn't up after the breakin? |
| 18:33.17 | nsomniQ | err, security.deb.org.. is it down/still down? |
| 18:34.14 | nsomniQ | feh, fileutils and locales borked up my install(they both install same file) |
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| 18:42.23 | nsomniQ | hey, anybody here poked around with the install scripts? |
| 18:54.55 | nsomniQ | garrrrr..... no docs about prep boot partition |
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| 19:59.43 | dho | hello |
| 20:00.04 | dho | i am having trouble get mol to display in xwindows |
| 20:00.08 | dho | geting* |
| 20:00.44 | simonrvn | jholt: next time ask instead of /ver me |
| 20:01.06 | simonrvn | run molvconfig |
| 20:01.33 | dho | did |
| 20:01.48 | dho | it takes up the whole screen when i do startmol --osx |
| 20:01.53 | simonrvn | did you set it up so it can? |
| 20:02.04 | simonrvn | i think the deafult is console |
| 20:02.12 | simonrvn | default* |
| 20:02.39 | dho | so go i say dont check current mode? |
| 20:02.49 | simonrvn | what? |
| 20:02.51 | TheBonsai | Dizzutch[break]: sorry, was afk |
| 20:04.01 | dho | hmmm |
| 20:04.17 | simonrvn | i didn't understand what you meant there |
| 20:04.51 | dho | alright i got it to work in an xwindow |
| 20:04.53 | dho | il explain |
| 20:05.06 | dho | i told it not to probe the current mode |
| 20:05.10 | simonrvn | ok |
| 20:05.18 | dho | and only set it to a different mode |
| 20:05.28 | dho | only one other worked on this lcd |
| 20:05.45 | dho | how do i get it to boot from a cd? |
| 20:05.47 | simonrvn | well lcds have a fixed rs anyway, don't they? |
| 20:05.51 | simonrvn | res* |
| 20:05.54 | dho | cuz i have nevr been able to do that |
| 20:05.58 | dho | yep |
| 20:06.03 | dho | physical pixels |
| 20:06.32 | simonrvn | ok. but wouldn't that limit the res. you can run at? |
| 20:07.08 | dho | yep |
| 20:07.19 | dho | but i could run it at any res under my current |
| 20:07.25 | dho | it would just take up les space |
| 20:07.43 | dho | osx emulates it when i set it to 8X6 |
| 20:07.49 | dho | even on my lcd |
| 20:07.51 | dho | its wierd |
| 20:08.01 | dho | hmm |
| 20:08.07 | dho | mol has never done this defore |
| 20:08.10 | dho | i cant type |
| 20:08.15 | dho | but i can click around |
| 20:08.32 | dho | ah whatever il kill it |
| 20:09.07 | simonrvn | mol's res. stuff is pretty weird anyway. |
| 20:10.12 | dho | wtf my keyboard still doesnt work with mol |
| 20:10.37 | simonrvn | try another kbd setting |
| 20:10.47 | dho | where do i set that? |
| 20:10.58 | simonrvn | molrc.macos(x) IIRC |
| 20:11.15 | dho | thats interesting |
| 20:11.18 | dho | it just started working |
| 20:11.37 | simonrvn | heh. good :) |
| 20:12.33 | dho | i am trying to get it to boot to my panther cd yet it keeps reverting to my hd installation |
| 20:13.16 | simonrvn | unset the HDD -boot thing, and set that -boot to the cd entry |
| 20:13.25 | simonrvn | e.g. |
| 20:13.32 | dho | huh |
| 20:13.56 | simonrvn | blkdev: /dev/sdd4 -rw -boot |
| 20:14.10 | simonrvn | blkdev: /dev/sdc0 -boot |
| 20:14.21 | simonrvn | and commnet the -boot on the HDD partition |
| 20:14.25 | simonrvn | comment* |
| 20:14.33 | simonrvn | like: |
| 20:14.38 | simonrvn | blkdev: /dev/sdd4 -rw # -boot |
| 20:14.52 | simonrvn | it'll force it to boot from the cd |
| 20:15.09 | dho | i think i get what you are saying |
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| 20:15.42 | dho | wait |
| 20:15.51 | dho | so which one do i add to molrc.osx? |
| 20:16.47 | simonrvn | ok. i'll assume that your hdd partition that has oxs is /dev/hda3 (probably isn't but let's suppose), and the cd is at /dev/cdrom |
| 20:16.52 | simonrvn | osx* |
| 20:17.05 | dho | hold on |
| 20:17.14 | simonrvn | so, blkdev: /dev/hda3 -rw |
| 20:17.23 | simonrvn | blkdev: /dev/cdrom -boot |
| 20:17.27 | dho | maybe the issue is i dunno where my cd is cuz... |
| 20:17.36 | dho | mac-fdisk says cdrom is at /dev/hdb |
| 20:18.15 | simonrvn | yes, but that will depend on how the cd is set up, as you're not supposed to directly access hd* for the cd drive |
| 20:18.43 | simonrvn | (it'S just easier to refer to it as cdrom or scd0 or whatever anyway) |
| 20:19.04 | dho | ok |
| 20:19.12 | simonrvn | so you'll have a symlink to cdrom from hdb for instance |
| 20:19.29 | dho | that included |
| 20:19.52 | simonrvn | cd /dev; ln -s hdb cdrom |
| 20:20.25 | dho | sweet |
| 20:20.27 | dho | its going |
| 20:20.36 | simonrvn | booting from cd now? |
| 20:20.40 | dho | si senor |
| 20:20.43 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:20.46 | dho | thanks |
| 20:20.55 | simonrvn | np |
| 20:21.09 | dho | now lets see if i can copy my music off my hfsplus and then repartition through mol |
| 20:21.23 | dho | should be simple |
| 20:21.57 | simonrvn | you can, kinda. it's a little tricky.. though it's simply giving mol access to various disks, and making sure they're not mounted in linux |
| 20:22.22 | dho | ok |
| 20:22.28 | dho | how do i give mol acces? |
| 20:22.41 | simonrvn | i have to rebuild netatalk (mac os classic clients running os 9) |
| 20:22.53 | simonrvn | just add blkdev: statements |
| 20:23.01 | dho | and itl mount em? |
| 20:23.06 | simonrvn | yup |
| 20:23.09 | dho | nice |
| 20:23.18 | dho | gotta get my stuff off of them first |
| 20:23.39 | dho | mount -t hfsplus /dev/hda12 /mnt/macosx |
| 20:23.47 | dho | is that ok? |
| 20:23.54 | dho | make a directory /mnt/macosx already |
| 20:23.56 | simonrvn | should work |
| 20:23.59 | dho | ok |
| 20:24.19 | bighawk | hfsplus is still messed up |
| 20:24.24 | dho | ? |
| 20:24.31 | bighawk | my 700mb files show up as 88mb |
| 20:24.39 | bighawk | with the hfsplus driver |
| 20:24.41 | simonrvn | what you using? |
| 20:24.43 | dho | mounted alright |
| 20:24.53 | bighawk | dho: mounts right here too |
| 20:24.57 | bighawk | simonrvn: ardis driver |
| 20:25.02 | bighawk | dho: do a du -sh /mnt/osx |
| 20:25.04 | simonrvn | could be that dumbass file size limit you're hitting |
| 20:25.09 | bighawk | dho: tell me if it looks realistically |
| 20:25.13 | bighawk | simonrvn: hmm? |
| 20:25.38 | simonrvn | yeh, there's a filesystem limit, and i think there's a file size limit, that's being worked on |
| 20:25.49 | simonrvn | (both are, but anyway) |
| 20:25.51 | bighawk | really? where can i read about that |
| 20:26.06 | bighawk | my osx filesystem has 18GB of data |
| 20:26.15 | bighawk | and du -sh /mnt/osx on linux-2.6 shows 2.8GB |
| 20:26.16 | simonrvn | try to make and hfs(+) sparse file in linux ;) |
| 20:26.20 | dho | heh my semester is over, i no longer need to wryy aboutbacking up my work |
| 20:26.22 | simonrvn | that's over 1 GB |
| 20:26.36 | simonrvn | s/and/an/ |
| 20:27.03 | bighawk | maybe it's a bug in du |
| 20:27.11 | simonrvn | no |
| 20:27.15 | bighawk | i should check filesizes with ls -l |
| 20:27.25 | bighawk | maybe it does show up correctly there |
| 20:27.27 | simonrvn | hformat can't make anyting bigger than 1 GB |
| 20:27.34 | bighawk | hformat? |
| 20:27.41 | bighawk | these filesystems were created by osx |
| 20:27.45 | simonrvn | make an hfs fs in linux |
| 20:27.50 | simonrvn | that's different |
| 20:28.03 | bighawk | if i mount my hfs+ osx filessytem, that's when i get those problems |
| 20:28.14 | bighawk | dho: did you do a du -sh /mnt/osx ? |
| 20:28.16 | LarstiQ | under linux |
| 20:28.21 | dho | no |
| 20:28.22 | {xmb} | ls -lR | awk '/^-/ { i += $5 } END { print i / 1024 / 1024 }' |
| 20:28.23 | dho | whats that? |
| 20:28.26 | simonrvn | LarstiQ: yeh :) |
| 20:28.29 | {xmb} | as to check via ls instead of du |
| 20:28.36 | bighawk | dho: can you do that? it shows the amount of data in use |
| 20:28.46 | bighawk | dho: as in use on disk |
| 20:29.06 | dho | ok |
| 20:29.26 | bighawk | tell me if the figure looks realistically with what shows up in osx |
| 20:29.29 | dho | getting a $hitload of errors |
| 20:29.39 | bighawk | try |
| 20:29.46 | bighawk | du -sh /mnt/osx 2>/dev/null |
| 20:29.46 | dho | ist still going man |
| 20:30.21 | dho | well thats going |
| 20:30.39 | dho | how do i copy stuff off the mac partition?cp isnt doing it for me |
| 20:30.56 | bighawk | what's cp showing? |
| 20:31.00 | dho | cp /mnt/macos/Users/d/music /home/d/ isnt working |
| 20:31.08 | bighawk | cp -R |
| 20:31.14 | bighawk | you have to do a recursive copy |
| 20:31.32 | dho | ok |
| 20:32.03 | dho | cool |
| 20:32.10 | dho | its copying all my itms stuff |
| 20:32.32 | dho | by the way anyone know how to get audio working in mol with panther? |
| 20:32.53 | dho | says /mnt/macosx is 1.8 |
| 20:33.01 | dho | should be much closer to 18 then 1.8 |
| 20:33.08 | bighawk | hehe |
| 20:33.09 | bighawk | 18gb? |
| 20:33.11 | bighawk | instead of 1.8gb? |
| 20:33.16 | dho | yep |
| 20:33.18 | bighawk | then you have the same as me |
| 20:33.40 | bighawk | it shows up completely fucked up here too |
| 20:34.06 | dho | hmmm |
| 20:34.39 | bighawk | tell me if your home copied over intact :) |
| 20:36.06 | dho | looks like it |
| 20:36.10 | dho | wooopsies |
| 20:36.10 | {xmb} | oh, deb kernels doesnt have the string module by default? |
| 20:36.17 | {xmb} | iptables string* |
| 20:36.23 | dho | heh |
| 20:36.28 | bighawk | dho: can you do: du -sh /home/d/ |
| 20:36.37 | bighawk | dho: and compare it with: du -sh /mnt/macos/Users/d/music |
| 20:36.50 | dho | 419 m |
| 20:36.56 | bighawk | both 419mb? |
| 20:37.01 | dho | from memory my collection was about that size |
| 20:37.08 | bighawk | compare it on both |
| 20:37.13 | dho | ok |
| 20:37.17 | bighawk | does it show up as 419mb on /mnt/macos too? |
| 20:37.23 | dho | gotta remount |
| 20:38.07 | dho | lol 51M on the hfs |
| 20:38.13 | bighawk | ok |
| 20:38.21 | bighawk | so disk usage statistics are fucked |
| 20:38.22 | dho | i got more music :\ |
| 20:38.24 | bighawk | with the hfs+ driver |
| 20:38.31 | bighawk | but actual copying/reading is fine |
| 20:38.33 | dho | as ong as it works |
| 20:38.34 | bighawk | can you dos omething else for me? |
| 20:38.38 | dho | sure |
| 20:38.47 | bighawk | ls -l /mnt/macos/Users/d/music |
| 20:38.48 | dho | not rm -rf / right? |
| 20:39.06 | bighawk | can you check if the file sizes it shows there are equal when you do the same on your copied dir in linux? |
| 20:39.11 | {xmb} | check the awk thing i pasted above to get the size via ls -l instead of du -h |
| 20:39.19 | bighawk | ah |
| 20:39.22 | bighawk | do what xmb said :) |
| 20:40.12 | dho | little les then 10x as large on the linux partion |
| 20:40.14 | dho | once again |
| 20:40.19 | bighawk | weird |
| 20:40.23 | bighawk | wait |
| 20:40.26 | dho | gunna unmount now |
| 20:40.27 | dho | wait? |
| 20:40.28 | bighawk | wait |
| 20:40.30 | bighawk | yes, please |
| 20:40.31 | dho | ok |
| 20:40.41 | bighawk | can you check the largest music file in your linux directory? |
| 20:40.48 | bighawk | and paste: ls -l on that file here |
| 20:40.55 | bighawk | and then the same for that file on osx |
| 20:41.04 | dho | hmm the way itms organizes itl take a while but ok |
| 20:41.08 | bighawk | well |
| 20:41.10 | bighawk | not the largest then |
| 20:41.12 | bighawk | just a big one |
| 20:41.20 | bighawk | not one of 20kb :P |
| 20:41.23 | bighawk | one of several megabytes |
| 20:41.26 | {xmb} | -S sorts by size |
| 20:42.00 | jc-denton | merry xmas |
| 20:42.03 | jc-denton | meep |
| 20:42.04 | jc-denton | ;) |
| 20:42.05 | {xmb} | moo |
| 20:43.00 | dho | ok got it |
| 20:43.15 | dho | 490 hfs |
| 20:43.26 | dho | 3924 linux |
| 20:43.35 | bighawk | ls -l ? |
| 20:43.41 | dho | that was -s |
| 20:43.51 | {xmb} | -s is the block size |
| 20:43.52 | bighawk | no give me -l output |
| 20:43.54 | dho | ok |
| 20:43.58 | bighawk | i dont need blocksize now |
| 20:44.18 | bighawk | and after that i got one more question :) |
| 20:44.44 | dho | 4010720 4010720 |
| 20:44.46 | dho | identical |
| 20:45.06 | bighawk | and blocksize differs? |
| 20:45.10 | dho | yep |
| 20:45.15 | bighawk | ah, of course |
| 20:45.22 | bighawk | i bet hfs has a completely different blocksize |
| 20:45.27 | bighawk | (not 1028kb blocks) |
| 20:45.33 | bighawk | and du gets completely confused with that |
| 20:45.40 | dho | ok |
| 20:45.46 | bighawk | what's the blocksize of hfs+? |
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| 20:45.58 | dho | for the whole volume? |
| 20:45.58 | bighawk | this makes perfect sense now |
| 20:46.00 | bighawk | dho: thanks :) |
| 20:46.05 | dho | np |
| 20:46.08 | bighawk | yes, your hfs+ blocksize? |
| 20:46.16 | dho | how do i find that again? |
| 20:46.28 | bighawk | heh, honestly i dont know |
| 20:46.38 | bighawk | i'm asking in macosx |
| 20:46.48 | dho | 121826 (cd /mnt/macosx; ls -s) |
| 20:47.18 | dho | ok to to unmount if youdont have any more questions |
| 20:48.16 | dho | is it ok to repartition with mol? |
| 20:48.25 | dho | as long as i only toach hfs partitions? |
| 20:48.30 | dho | touch* |
| 20:49.00 | bighawk | no idea |
| 20:49.06 | bighawk | sounds unsafe to me |
| 20:49.26 | dho | ah well i dont have anything important on my comp |
| 20:49.29 | dho | and most importantly |
| 20:49.31 | dho | im bored |
| 20:49.33 | dho | :) |
| 20:49.36 | bighawk | ok |
| 20:49.56 | bighawk | 3924 / 490 = 8.008 |
| 20:50.00 | bighawk | 8 times as big as linux |
| 20:50.16 | bighawk | that explains my my 700mb files showed up as 88mb files :) |
| 20:50.29 | bighawk | 8 * 88 = 704mb |
| 20:50.37 | bighawk | makes *perfect* sense now |
| 20:51.02 | bighawk | so maybe the hfsplus driver isn't that fucked at all :) |
| 20:52.06 | dho | heh |
| 20:52.17 | dho | anylast words before i repatition? |
| 20:52.18 | dho | heh |
| 20:52.31 | dho | dont mess up |
| 20:52.53 | dho | ok quiting mol |
| 20:52.59 | dho | gunna check my work in mac-fdisk |
| 20:53.30 | dho | hmm |
| 20:53.35 | dho | it didnt seem to effect it |
| 20:53.52 | dho | well il boot to the cd directly partition and then go back into mol to do the rest |
| 20:53.55 | dho | cya in 5 mins |
| 20:54.10 | bighawk | bye |
| 20:54.17 | bighawk | i hope you ll survive it |
| 20:56.42 | TheBonsai | can anyone give me a hand on crosscompiling the kernel for a ppc 4xx? i'm not good in C and there seem to be some patches needed |
| 20:57.54 | bighawk | i believe larstiq was the expert on that :) |
| 20:58.06 | LarstiQ | hmm? |
| 20:58.48 | TheBonsai | heh |
| 20:58.51 | TheBonsai | morning :) |
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| 20:59.10 | TheBonsai | i get several errors within ppc4xx_*.c on make |
| 20:59.15 | simonrvn | only in some parts of the world :) |
| 20:59.24 | LarstiQ | I'm afraid I don't have specific 4xx knowledge, but let's give it a try :) |
| 20:59.33 | LarstiQ | TheBonsai: what errors? |
| 20:59.49 | TheBonsai | simonrvn: $LC_GREETING_FORMULAR |
| 21:00.04 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: wait a minute, configuring and making |
| 21:00.09 | LarstiQ | aye |
| 21:01.34 | TheBonsai | some of these: |
| 21:01.36 | TheBonsai | arch/ppc/syslib/ppc4xx_pic.c: In function `ppc4xx_pic_init': |
| 21:01.36 | TheBonsai | arch/ppc/syslib/ppc4xx_pic.c:428: error: `DCRN_UIC0_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 21:01.36 | TheBonsai | arch/ppc/syslib/ppc4xx_pic.c:429: warning: implicit declaration of function `DCRN_UIC_CR' |
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| 21:02.07 | LarstiQ | TheBonsai: okay, does that get defined anywhere else? |
| 21:02.32 | Tartarus | TheBonsai, is this stock 2.6.0 ? |
| 21:03.26 | TheBonsai | Tartarus: it is the linuxppc-2.5 mentioned in topic |
| 21:03.30 | Tartarus | okay |
| 21:03.42 | Tartarus | what 4xx board do you have? |
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| 21:03.58 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: normally it should get defined in some header i thing (or by the config). but i can't track it |
| 21:04.02 | gpciceri | hello all, anyone there pointing me to an HOWTO for X on ibook/G4 with radeon9200 ? |
| 21:04.23 | TheBonsai | Tartarus: it's a netstation. but it doesn't matter, cause it's a cross compile |
| 21:04.34 | gpciceri | (or better one that has done this setup) |
| 21:04.37 | Tartarus | TheBonsai, the board you have does indeed matter :) |
| 21:04.56 | Tartarus | TheBonsai, so what type of 4xx board is a 'netstation' ? |
| 21:05.31 | TheBonsai | Tartarus: well, i know less about this thing. some 4xx oak technology as far google told me |
| 21:05.55 | Tartarus | TheBonsai, okay |
| 21:06.04 | TheBonsai | just tried linuxppc_2_4 and it also fails (with other errors) |
| 21:06.06 | Tartarus | TheBonsai, if you're trying to configure for an 'Oak' board, you're SOL |
| 21:06.16 | Tartarus | that hasn't compiled since the 2.3.x days |
| 21:06.30 | Tartarus | (nor been cared about for quite some time) |
| 21:06.51 | dse | hi, anybody know where to get a kernel to make debian bootable again on an 12" pb after macosx update? |
| 21:07.01 | Tartarus | I'd suggest you look at the code for a 'walnut' to start to see what's missing from the Oak code, if you have the time to try and fix it |
| 21:07.02 | TheBonsai | Tartarus: hum. sounds bad ;) should i try a 2.2.x one? |
| 21:07.17 | Tartarus | TheBonsai, never made it to a real 2.2.x |
| 21:07.35 | Tartarus | TheBonsai, if you do a lot of hard googling you might be able to dig up a snapshot of the TiVo code |
| 21:07.40 | TheBonsai | Tartarus: well, i'll try. i have time ;) thx anyways |
| 21:07.42 | Tartarus | and that did work on an Oak-alike board |
| 21:08.08 | TheBonsai | TiVo code, eh? |
| 21:08.22 | Tartarus | yes |
| 21:08.28 | Tartarus | the original TiVos were ppc403 based |
| 21:08.34 | Tartarus | and they did release their kernel code |
| 21:08.41 | Tartarus | (2.3.something, no less) |
| 21:08.59 | TheBonsai | ah, you mean some DVB's |
| 21:09.44 | Tartarus | yes |
| 21:09.49 | TheBonsai | "TiVo Network Hack How-To Guide" :) |
| 21:10.46 | Tartarus | possibly linked from there |
| 21:10.50 | gpciceri | for example, with ibook G4/radeon 9200 have I to boot the kernel telling it to use openfirmware framebuffer instead of native radeon ? |
| 21:11.12 | Tartarus | gpciceri, video=ofonly |
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| 21:11.40 | LarstiQ | afaik, using the radeon framebuffer is good for X |
| 21:11.44 | dho | heh it worked |
| 21:12.08 | gpciceri | Tartarus, THX, o.k., I know the way. But I need to know if I have to do this. |
| 21:12.22 | Tartarus | oh, dunno |
| 21:12.37 | dho | darn mol is switching to console again |
| 21:12.38 | LarstiQ | gpciceri: with my 7500, I use the radeon fb |
| 21:12.47 | LarstiQ | gpciceri: and that works fine for X, dri, everything |
| 21:12.49 | gpciceri | So, If anyone was able to use native radeon framebuffer (radeon 9200) |
| 21:13.13 | gpciceri | on my ibook, the display is veeeery dark |
| 21:13.22 | gpciceri | using radeon framebuffer |
| 21:14.17 | gpciceri | I'm able to see that it's all o.k. (for example gmd is working), but with heavy difficulties |
| 21:14.31 | gpciceri | and I'm not able to let backlight work. |
| 21:15.06 | LarstiQ | What kind of difficulties? |
| 21:15.25 | gpciceri | If I switch to openfirmware with video=ofonly, I'm not able to write an XFConfig that works |
| 21:15.58 | gpciceri | LarstiQ, with radeon fb, it seems the display is turned off |
| 21:16.11 | LarstiQ | heh, that would be nasty :) |
| 21:16.15 | dho | open firmware only alows text |
| 21:16.16 | gpciceri | but it's really working it's only very, very dark |
| 21:16.18 | dho | :( |
| 21:17.04 | gpciceri | I mean, if you switch on macosx |
| 21:17.11 | gpciceri | and use the light control |
| 21:17.30 | gpciceri | if you lower the light after the minimum |
| 21:17.50 | gpciceri | it seems the display shut off, but if you look well |
| 21:17.56 | LarstiQ | indeed |
| 21:18.01 | TheBonsai | Tartarus: got these things, trying now. thx |
| 21:18.07 | gpciceri | you're still able to see something |
| 21:18.27 | gpciceri | and I'm experiencing a very similar beaviour with radeon fb. |
| 21:19.19 | dho | well crap, i could get mol to go into an xwindow, so i turned off autoswitching to console |
| 21:19.24 | dho | now there is nothing |
| 21:19.38 | gpciceri | and with radeon fb I'm able to have a working XFree setup |
| 21:20.10 | dho | can anyone help me with my problem^? |
| 21:20.11 | gpciceri | (I'm able to weakly see the gdm display and a succesful gnome login) in the darkness :-) |
| 21:20.55 | LarstiQ | dho: What do you want to do? |
| 21:21.16 | gpciceri | but when I boot with video=ofonly, I'm not able to get a working XFConfig |
| 21:21.41 | LarstiQ | gpciceri: can you change the brightness with fblevel? |
| 21:21.45 | dho | LarstiQ i cant seem to get mol to open in a xwindow, it did before i rebooted |
| 21:21.58 | LarstiQ | gpciceri: I'd go with radeonfb and get that to work |
| 21:22.10 | gpciceri | LarstiQ, with radeon9200 ? |
| 21:22.10 | LarstiQ | dho: matchinb bit depths? |
| 21:22.24 | dho | no idea |
| 21:22.31 | LarstiQ | gpciceri: yeah |
| 21:22.46 | dho | how would i find out? |
| 21:23.04 | LarstiQ | dho: xdpyinfo and your mol config |
| 21:23.47 | gpciceri | LarstiQ: I've to better understand: you've booted with radeonfb (and so the dark screen), then you've done ssh from another box and played succesfully with fblevel ? Do you caonfirm this ? |
| 21:23.52 | gpciceri | confirm |
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| 21:24.27 | LarstiQ | gpciceri: I don't have your hardware, with me radeonfb works perfectly. But can you use fblevel to change your brightness? |
| 21:25.18 | gpciceri | LarstiQ, I've asked you about radeon 9200 for this very reason. With mine I've had no success using fblevel to change brightness |
| 21:25.49 | LarstiQ | bummer |
| 21:25.55 | dho | LarstiQ xdpyinfo being what? |
| 21:26.10 | gpciceri | but I'm willing to try again, if there's one that has radeon 9200 working! |
| 21:26.18 | LarstiQ | gpciceri: almost sounds as if the driver needs some work, tried posting to the mailing list? |
| 21:27.14 | LarstiQ | dho: an application from xbase-clients |
| 21:27.48 | gpciceri | I've done a search with no success. |
| 21:28.41 | dho | well it has worked before |
| 21:28.49 | dho | 10 minutes ago |
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| 21:28.55 | dho | rebooted and it started going to onsole |
| 21:31.57 | dho | well if a reboot broke it, annother reboot might fix it :\ |
| 21:32.03 | dho | unlikely but hey |
| 21:32.05 | dho | cyya |
| 21:34.12 | nusse | simonrvn: do have any ideas how to get my powermac to boot linux? |
| 21:35.35 | simonrvn | nusse: do you have access to a mac os boot cd or something? |
| 21:36.05 | nusse | simonrvn: i have 2 mac os cds, but i cant install anything |
| 21:37.06 | simonrvn | how come? you can't partition the drive or something? |
| 21:37.33 | nusse | i can. but i cant install mac os. |
| 21:38.02 | simonrvn | why? |
| 21:38.38 | nusse | it says something about 'not for this machine', perhaps because of the joecard |
| 21:39.03 | simonrvn | oh. do you have the old CPU you can put in temporarily? |
| 21:39.36 | nusse | no |
| 21:40.00 | simonrvn | can you get one from somewhere? borrow it temporarily? |
| 21:40.15 | nusse | not that i know |
| 21:41.13 | simonrvn | do you have another drive that has mac os on it, maybe copy it from someone, once you've partitioned the current drive? |
| 21:42.13 | TheBonsai | what the heck is an assembler clobber list?? :) |
| 21:42.33 | simonrvn | ehhehe i have no idea |
| 21:42.33 | LarstiQ | the list of registers that get clobbered |
| 21:42.43 | simonrvn | ? |
| 21:42.55 | LarstiQ | really! :) |
| 21:43.59 | TheBonsai | /home/bonsai/ppc_ns_110/x-devel/sources/linux/include/asm/unistd.h:413: error: asm-specifier for variable `__sc_4' conflicts with asm clobber list |
| 21:44.00 | TheBonsai | hm |
| 21:44.01 | TheBonsai | :) |
| 21:44.02 | LarstiQ | Certain instructions clobber registers, so you tell the compiler not to use those |
| 21:44.05 | TheBonsai | i'm lost, too |
| 21:44.28 | LarstiQ | TheBonsai: you can't have registers in the clobber list that are also used for input/ouput specifiers |
| 21:44.44 | TheBonsai | yes, logical. and bad. |
| 21:45.35 | simonrvn | yeh. but why would you want to clobber registers in the first place, if you need them? |
| 21:46.00 | LarstiQ | simonrvn: you don't, the cpu does :) |
| 21:46.09 | simonrvn | so why clobber them? |
| 21:46.14 | TheBonsai | simonrvn: me? linus! ;) |
| 21:46.19 | LarstiQ | no no, the cpu clobbers them |
| 21:46.22 | simonrvn | and wtf does clobber mean in this context? |
| 21:46.44 | simonrvn | suqish them little little ants or something? :P |
| 21:46.45 | LarstiQ | simonrvn: scribble over, clobber, destroy, corrupt |
| 21:46.50 | simonrvn | ok |
| 21:47.14 | simonrvn | why does the cpu clobber them? because it doesn't need them anymore? |
| 21:47.37 | LarstiQ | Side effect of the instruction |
| 21:48.00 | simonrvn | which instruction? |
| 21:48.18 | LarstiQ | simonrvn: one could also use the registers by hand, the effect of the clobber list is that the compiler won't use it. |
| 21:48.26 | LarstiQ | simonrvn: let me get you an example |
| 21:48.30 | simonrvn | please do |
| 21:48.50 | LarstiQ | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.3.2/gcc/Extended-Asm.html#Extended%20Asm |
| 21:48.58 | LarstiQ | and search for clobber |
| 21:49.14 | LarstiQ | TheBonsai: 6501? |
| 21:49.16 | simonrvn | aaaah i need to fix sasl, not learn asm :) |
| 21:49.35 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: 75 |
| 21:50.02 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: on a plus/4(it was a 7501, no?) |
| 21:50.09 | simonrvn | waaaay over my head |
| 21:50.30 | LarstiQ | simonrvn: you'll see it a lot in kernel/libc land |
| 21:50.48 | LarstiQ | TheBonsai: no idea :) |
| 21:51.23 | TheBonsai | LarstiQ: yes, i googled, it was a 7501, with many illegal OP's ;-)))) |
| 21:51.32 | LarstiQ | hehe |
| 21:52.05 | TheBonsai | http://www.vintage-computer.com/commodoreplus4.shtml |
| 21:52.31 | LarstiQ | a friend of mine is trying to get the pegasos 2 tomorrow |
| 21:53.55 | TheBonsai | nice |
| 21:54.00 | TheBonsai | C= still alive ;) |
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| 22:07.13 | dho | hello |
| 22:07.21 | dho | how do i get mol to not require me to be root? |
| 22:07.38 | dho | cuz when i su it it cant connect to my xserver |
| 22:07.59 | simonrvn | chmod 4755 /usr/lib/mol/bin/mol i think.. not sure of the file path |
| 22:08.08 | dho | ok thanks |
| 22:08.35 | simonrvn | keep track of that, since that's setuid, now |
| 22:08.53 | simonrvn | (IOW, a security concern) |
| 22:09.35 | dho | not working |
| 22:09.59 | dho | i ran chmod 4755 /usr/bin/startmol |
| 22:10.04 | simonrvn | "...not sure of the file path" |
| 22:10.12 | simonrvn | no not that, that's just a wrapper |
| 22:10.30 | dho | ok how do i change it back? |
| 22:10.47 | simonrvn | 0755 |
| 22:10.58 | simonrvn | and yeh i had the path correct |
| 22:11.04 | simonrvn | chmod 4755 /usr/lib/mol/bin/mol |
| 22:11.24 | dho | ok thanks |
| 22:11.52 | dho | score it boots into xwindows again finaly |
| 22:11.56 | dho | thanks for the help once again |
| 22:13.56 | simonrvn | i think i'll reboot to 2.6 after the packages have installed, damn this slow 2.4 :P |
| 22:14.32 | simonrvn | *everything* runs more quickly |
| 22:14.37 | dho | crap |
| 22:14.45 | simonrvn | what? |
| 22:14.46 | sk1p | simonrvn: hw problems resolved? |
| 22:14.50 | simonrvn | yup |
| 22:14.51 | dho | i partition yet it says i cant boot to the volumes |
| 22:14.57 | simonrvn | no h/w prob, just bad build |
| 22:15.10 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
| 22:15.16 | sk1p | ah ;) |
| 22:15.20 | simonrvn | :) |
| 22:15.55 | simonrvn | reconfig the molrc.osx maybe |
| 22:16.11 | dho | na its a partition issue |
| 22:16.22 | dho | il boot straight to the cd and have iit run while i walk the dog |
| 22:16.24 | dho | cya |
| 22:37.06 | dloer | # ikeyd |
| 22:37.06 | dloer | ikeyd: Button device found at /dev/input/event2 |
| 22:37.13 | dloer | # eject /dev/scd0 |
| 22:37.13 | dloer | eject: Kann nicht auswerfen! Letzter Fehler: Invalid argument |
| 22:37.24 | dloer | eject with the F12 doesn't work either |
| 22:37.31 | dloer | it worked until 3 hours ago |
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| 22:45.49 | simonrvn | 2.6.0-ben1 |
| 22:46.10 | bighawk | that's what i use now |
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