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| 02:49.01 | wasabi | I can't seem to eject the iBook cdrom drive |
| 02:49.01 | wasabi | heh |
| 02:49.01 | wasabi | wasabi@osaka wasabi $ sudo eject |
| 02:49.01 | wasabi | eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argumentwasabi@osaka wasabi $ sudo eject |
| 02:49.01 | wasabi | eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument |
| 02:49.01 | wasabi | Oops |
| 02:49.01 | wasabi | sorry about that, i only copied it once |
| 02:49.01 | wasabi | ... |
| 02:51.29 | Curalton | try eject /dev/cdrom |
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| 03:21.56 | wasabi | eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument |
| 03:21.59 | wasabi | doh |
| 03:22.07 | wasabi | two sudo's for some reason heh |
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| 11:40.43 | fredf | hi! |
| 11:40.46 | fredf | a question |
| 11:41.19 | egg | ask the question. someone may have the answer you know... but they won't unless you ask it! |
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| 11:49.12 | fredferr | everyone know how to write a mac reboot code |
| 11:49.42 | simonrvn | s/every/any/ |
| 11:49.53 | fredferr | huh? |
| 11:50.15 | snaund | fredferr: can you elaborate on `mac' at all? |
| 11:50.36 | simonrvn | everyone means everyone in the channel, and implies all of us know how, whereas anyone means everyone in the channel too, but is more question related |
| 11:50.52 | fredferr | thx |
| 11:51.01 | fredferr | mac = oldworld ppc pci |
| 11:51.07 | fredferr | via-cuda |
| 11:51.32 | egg | I'm having trouble with a Debian install on an oldwold mac. When it's installing the base packages, it gets to a certain point and say it has an error with "dbootstrap", it says there is an error and will retry 5 times |
| 11:51.35 | simonrvn | and what do you mean by 'reboot code'? |
| 11:51.51 | egg | it does this 5 times and goes back to the menu asking to install the base system |
| 11:52.03 | fredferr | egg: one more oldworld user :) |
| 11:52.05 | simonrvn | egg: restart the machine, it'll start up where you left off |
| 11:52.31 | egg | it doesn't |
| 11:52.41 | egg | im not using yaboot or bootx |
| 11:52.59 | egg | i used the boot disks because mac os isn't isntalled |
| 11:53.12 | simonrvn | as long as you get back into the installer, it will continue the installation where it stopped |
| 11:54.31 | fredferr | simonrvn: 'reboot code' = something like 'stw r3,kVIA_BASE+kSR(`bss)' |
| 11:54.56 | jaska | at first it looked like line noise. |
| 11:55.05 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 11:55.10 | egg | hm... well, i'll try that next time it does it |
| 11:55.25 | egg | it's setting up the base packages at the moment |
| 11:55.53 | fredferr | jaska: sorry, not `bss but (r0) |
| 11:56.09 | fredferr | jaska: 2pm |
| 11:56.09 | jaska | yeah, was wondering about the `bss wtf. |
| 11:56.11 | jaska | :D |
| 11:56.18 | jaska | Wed Jan 7 14:08:52 EET 2004 |
| 11:56.29 | fredferr | jaska: stw with r0 means stw to addr 0 |
| 11:56.33 | simonrvn | 2 in the afternoon for you, heh |
| 11:56.49 | fredferr | jaska: i.e. 2am |
| 11:56.54 | fredferr | jaska: I'm out of my mind |
| 11:56.56 | jaska | heh. |
| 11:57.01 | jaska | who isnt? |
| 11:57.12 | fredferr | jaska: writing a stupidity |
| 11:57.14 | fredferr | ... |
| 11:57.16 | jaska | i havent done asm on ppc, r0 is always 0? |
| 11:57.31 | jaska | iirc some other archs have regs that are always 0 |
| 11:57.40 | fredferr | jaska: no |
| 11:57.52 | fredferr | you can write 'mtspr ANY,r0' |
| 11:58.09 | jaska | i guess stw is store word? :D |
| 11:58.17 | fredferr | jaska: store word |
| 11:58.29 | jaska | eieio is the funniest asm isn ive seen |
| 11:58.34 | fredferr | so what about a reboot code? |
| 11:58.46 | fredferr | jaska: yeas, I like eieio too :) |
| 11:59.27 | egg | argh... it didn't produce the error that time |
| 11:59.32 | egg | it installed perfectly |
| 11:59.37 | egg | thanks for the suggestions |
| 12:01.24 | egg | lol now the mac won't power up |
| 12:01.44 | fredferr | egg: which kind of machine do you have? |
| 12:02.00 | egg | Oldworld Mac Performa 5400/160 PowerPC |
| 12:02.10 | fredferr | egg: 603e? |
| 12:02.14 | egg | Yep |
| 12:02.16 | fredferr | wow |
| 12:02.35 | egg | wow? |
| 12:03.05 | fredferr | egg: I am using 58th machine. PowerPC 6400/180 with Crescendo G3/400 |
| 12:03.37 | egg | the little light on the front wont come on |
| 12:03.45 | egg | it had this problem when I first got it |
| 12:03.51 | fredferr | And I don't want to bye the new one! |
| 12:04.35 | fredferr | Back, What bout TWO lines (not the entire CUDA driver) of soft reset code? |
| 12:05.16 | egg | How do i reet the NVRAM and such? |
| 12:05.47 | simonrvn | option-command-p-r |
| 12:06.08 | fredferr | egg: and depress it |
| 12:06.20 | fredferr | egg: as soon as you can |
| 12:06.51 | fredferr | ;) |
| 12:07.22 | egg | ... |
| 12:07.23 | egg | nothing |
| 12:07.33 | fredferr | does it reboot? |
| 12:07.38 | egg | which one being command btw |
| 12:07.49 | egg | (not usually a mac user) |
| 12:07.52 | fredferr | the leafclower |
| 12:08.18 | fredferr | egg: Apple, Command (remember the time it was Open Apple and Solid Apple) |
| 12:08.25 | fredferr | early 80th... |
| 12:08.55 | fredferr | and there was NO Fkeys |
| 12:09.00 | egg | this is odd |
| 12:09.04 | fredferr | sorry, nostalgia... |
| 12:09.05 | egg | maybe the mainboard? |
| 12:09.14 | egg | i used to have a IIe clone |
| 12:09.22 | jaska | hmm |
| 12:09.26 | fredferr | egg: why do you want to reset NVRAM??? |
| 12:09.29 | jaska | i had an apple clone too, rowr. |
| 12:09.33 | jaska | 'microprofessor II' |
| 12:09.35 | fredferr | clones? |
| 12:09.37 | jaska | or something like that |
| 12:09.47 | jaska | apple II clones. |
| 12:09.49 | fredferr | AppleII or MacII? |
| 12:09.55 | jaska | :D |
| 12:09.59 | egg | i forget |
| 12:10.06 | egg | i saw it on applefritter.com tho |
| 12:10.13 | fredferr | oh |
| 12:10.23 | fredferr | now I am teaching how to code Java |
| 12:10.45 | egg | this is odd... it's all powered up... i heard the "durrrrr" sound, the drives spun up but nothing |
| 12:10.57 | egg | the screen wont fore up and the little light isnt on |
| 12:11.07 | fredferr | leafclower-option-O-F |
| 12:11.11 | fredferr | on rebbot |
| 12:11.35 | egg | allat once? |
| 12:11.40 | fredferr | egg: have ever you replaced your alkaline battery? |
| 12:12.03 | fredferr | egg: my time at every powerup is 1954 |
| 12:12.08 | fredferr | :) |
| 12:12.11 | egg | i depressed the little reset switch |
| 12:12.25 | egg | tried all these key combinations and its still dead |
| 12:12.41 | fredferr | egg: I had that problem yesterday |
| 12:12.46 | fredferr | egg: have ever you replaced your alkaline battery? |
| 12:12.54 | egg | the battery is good |
| 12:13.02 | fredferr | why do you think so? |
| 12:13.06 | egg | i've tested it |
| 12:13.28 | fredferr | okay, shut down... |
| 12:13.30 | egg | i'll just take the board out and swa it with the other one i have at home |
| 12:13.35 | fredferr | ...wait 15 mins... |
| 12:13.51 | fredferr | ...and turn it on |
| 12:14.10 | fredferr | where are you print this from, ah? |
| 12:14.23 | egg | Australia |
| 12:14.31 | egg | I gotta go. Thanks for all your help |
| 12:14.43 | fredferr | bye |
| 12:15.17 | fredferr | back, what bout a couple of lines (not a huge CUDA driver) for soft reset code? |
| 12:17.00 | fredferr | okay, forget it |
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| 12:27.03 | fredferr | everybody sleeping... |
| 12:31.33 | fredferr | bye |
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| 12:39.46 | Jeedo | how do i see if X11 is installed on osx.3? |
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| 12:46.47 | simonrvn | Jeedo: try #osx |
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| 13:37.52 | Bor__Ed | hmm, is there a way to limit apt-get download speed ? |
| 13:38.16 | simonrvn | try man apt_preferences *shrug* |
| 13:38.33 | Bor_Ed | man not installed... I need to ssh to another box :I |
| 13:38.53 | Bor_Ed | this doesn't have too much space ya know :) |
| 13:39.02 | simonrvn | :) |
| 13:39.34 | Bor_Ed | there's no simple cmd line switch to enable limiting for a while ? |
| 13:40.18 | simonrvn | i have no idea if it can even do it |
| 13:40.39 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I recall urpmi had the switch ... should be on apt too :o |
| 13:40.46 | simonrvn | maybe using apt-proxy, and getting stuff from the -proxy box |
| 13:41.46 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: next 2.6 build is going to be yours. send me h/w details (lspci, /proc/cpuinfo, etc.) and i'll do it up for ya |
| 13:41.51 | Bor_Ed | preferences seem to affect only to package overrwrite priority/distro ver download thingy |
| 13:41.58 | simonrvn | mailto:simon@nuit.ca |
| 13:42.02 | Bor_Ed | ok |
| 13:42.12 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 13:43.10 | Bor_Ed | lspci not installed ??? |
| 13:43.23 | simonrvn | pciutils IIRC |
| 13:43.37 | Bor_Ed | I shot the lspci too |
| 13:43.44 | Bor_Ed | lsmod :P |
| 13:43.55 | simonrvn | good enough |
| 13:44.09 | simonrvn | or cat /proc/pci |
| 13:44.09 | Bor_Ed | installed the lspci... |
| 13:44.32 | Bor_Ed | could add that too... it's only a text file ... |
| 13:46.21 | simonrvn | ~o / i shot the sherriff /o |
| 13:46.28 | simonrvn | :p |
| 13:47.49 | Bor_Ed | lol |
| 13:53.20 | Bor_Ed | sent ... the normal nfs and atalk included ofcourse... and about all filesystems as modules (need only ext2 as built in) |
| 13:54.05 | simonrvn | ok |
| 13:54.35 | simonrvn | i assume this is you :) : From <ari@fi.homelinux.net> (host=mbox2.netikka.net |
| 13:54.44 | Bor_Ed | good guess :P |
| 13:54.47 | simonrvn | a nice good old 200 :) |
| 13:54.54 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 13:56.05 | anjalein_ | hi...which kernel patch should i take...from benh patch-2.4.22-ben2.gz 31-Aug-2003 02:51 151K |
| 13:56.31 | anjalein_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.45 | anjalein_ | ? |
| 14:01.17 | simonrvn | yay build done |
| 14:01.34 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: apt.conf is only place even close but still no hit :I |
| 14:01.49 | simonrvn | anjalein_: get 2.4.24 if at all possible, and/or benh rsync |
| 14:02.14 | simonrvn | and check this out |
| 14:02.15 | simonrvn | http://linux.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.4/cset@1.1136.92.4?nav=index.html|ChangeSet@-2w |
| 14:02.28 | anjalein_ | simonrvn: is there a patch for 2.4.24? i saw only the patch for 2.4.22 from benh |
| 14:02.29 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: :( |
| 14:02.49 | simonrvn | anjalein_: you looking at kernel.org? that's old stuff, hasn't been updated in a while |
| 14:03.00 | Bor_Ed | off to setup squid and iptables to limit bandwidth, NOT |
| 14:03.43 | simonrvn | you doing QoS on your router at all? maybe you should look into that |
| 14:03.51 | anjalein_ | simonrvn: ups? where i have to look for the right version for ppc? |
| 14:04.11 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: router is this 601/90 so no :) |
| 14:04.53 | simonrvn | uh yeh, i would. QoS isn't a high overhead at all |
| 14:05.06 | Bor_Ed | but a bitch to setup |
| 14:05.13 | simonrvn | anjalein: check out www.ppckernel.org |
| 14:05.31 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: look into wondershaper or shaper (latter in debian) |
| 14:06.04 | anjalein | simonrvn: thanx |
| 14:07.59 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: add the QoS to kernel too ?-) |
| 14:08.08 | simonrvn | sure :) |
| 14:08.29 | Bor_Ed | ok, I _might_ check shaper out ... sounds like another RTFM tho :I |
| 14:09.12 | simonrvn | wondershaper is easy. find out your throughput, set it in the script, then it sets up all the rules for you. |
| 14:09.28 | jaska | i should sue my isp |
| 14:09.34 | jaska | my '512k' dsl is actually 424k |
| 14:09.35 | Bor_Ed | checked the shaper... |
| 14:09.37 | simonrvn | that,s another idea :P |
| 14:09.53 | Bor_Ed | jaska: my 256/256 homepna is < 100/60 :/ |
| 14:09.58 | jaska | heh |
| 14:10.21 | Bor_Ed | and most dsl providers here give the speed as 'max speed for line' |
| 14:10.24 | Bor_Ed | that's nothing to do with real speed |
| 14:10.34 | jaska | hmm |
| 14:10.40 | jaska | a friend has the fastest dsl from netikka |
| 14:10.42 | Bor_Ed | vlp sells 2M/512 and ppl get ~700/300 |
| 14:10.49 | jaska | '8192/1024' |
| 14:10.57 | simonrvn | eew. what a rip-off |
| 14:11.11 | jaska | but its like 7000/800 |
| 14:11.12 | jaska | or so |
| 14:11.27 | Bor_Ed | jaska: check out netikka forum... loads of 'happy' customers |
| 14:11.30 | jaska | heh |
| 14:12.01 | Bor_Ed | especially this piki-netikka is pretty hot issue |
| 14:12.24 | jaska | apartment complex dsl with homepna or so? |
| 14:12.38 | Bor_Ed | more or less |
| 14:12.45 | jaska | those always suck. |
| 14:12.52 | Bor_Ed | www.pikipruukki.com tells more about this thingy |
| 14:13.30 | Bor_Ed | this used to work before vlp started to fuck the customers by limiting to shitty speeds and shaping the ports |
| 14:13.35 | liiwi | Bor_Ed: lartc.org, check out wondershaper |
| 14:13.35 | jaska | heh |
| 14:13.45 | liiwi | very easy to set up |
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| 14:13.59 | jaska | vlp has been pretty much a curse-word where i come from originally for ages |
| 14:14.15 | Bor_Ed | 'maakunta' ?-) |
| 14:14.19 | jaska | (alahärmä, about 70km from vaasa) |
| 14:14.27 | Bor_Ed | hehe, häjy :P |
| 14:14.41 | Bor_Ed | wondershaper is a gui ? |
| 14:14.50 | liiwi | njet |
| 14:14.54 | jaska | /wii liiwi |
| 14:14.56 | jaska | argh |
| 14:15.01 | jaska | stupid irssi :D |
| 14:15.10 | liiwi | morjens, almost-kaima |
| 14:15.17 | jaska | moi.l |
| 14:15.22 | Bor_Ed | I think I'll install the shaper and do some RTFM |
| 14:15.28 | jaska | <- having fever, feeling a bit dizzy |
| 14:15.34 | jaska | so ignore the typos etc. |
| 14:16.15 | liiwi | Bor_Ed: if you are running woody, you need kernel with htb support and updated iproute. |
| 14:16.25 | Bor_Ed | woody ??? wassat ?-) |
| 14:16.35 | Bor_Ed | sid for about 6 months :) |
| 14:16.39 | liiwi | sarge/sid has all you need |
| 14:16.51 | jaska | ive never used stable :D |
| 14:16.58 | Bor_Ed | simon is building me a new kernel |
| 14:17.07 | liiwi | tell him to include qos stuff |
| 14:17.10 | liiwi | as modules |
| 14:18.12 | Bor_Ed | told |
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| 14:24.17 | Bor_Ed | hmm, X uses here 19 megs ... if I install xserver-tinyx-fbdev I get more free ram ? |
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| 14:27.07 | simonrvn | re |
| 14:27.19 | myXtie | ra |
| 14:28.02 | simonrvn | boog |
| 14:28.32 | Bor_Ed | 2.6 up and running ? |
| 14:28.35 | simonrvn | running a patched rc1-ben 2.6 |
| 14:28.50 | simonrvn | 2.6.1-rc1-ben1 |
| 14:28.55 | simonrvn | patched for with the mremap fix |
| 14:29.00 | simonrvn | s/for// |
| 14:29.38 | Bor_Ed | umm, 2.6.1 had the hole too ? |
| 14:29.43 | simonrvn | when i get up, i'll work on configuring and compiling that 2.6. with headers |
| 14:29.52 | simonrvn | yeh, rc1 did. rc2 didn't |
| 14:29.58 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 14:30.16 | simonrvn | so i took the fixed code from rc2, applied to my ben tree, and compiled it ;) |
| 14:30.26 | Bor_Ed | gee |
| 14:30.28 | myXtie | hole in 2.6 only in benh ? |
| 14:30.45 | simonrvn | no 2.6.x and 2.4.x < .24 |
| 14:31.00 | simonrvn | 2.6.1-rc1 i mean |
| 14:31.32 | simonrvn | and benh didn't have time to enter in the fix for the rsync stuff from mvista, so i did it myself |
| 14:31.52 | myXtie | in ip stack or net seems i remember soemthing about it |
| 14:32.00 | simonrvn | mm/mremap.c |
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| 14:32.04 | xLobeznox | hi |
| 14:32.06 | xLobeznox | somebody there? |
| 14:32.10 | simonrvn | no :P |
| 14:32.26 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.54 | anjalein | simonrvn: is this the right tree vom benh? >> Latest build: 2.4.23-pre5-ben0 |
| 14:33.55 | simonrvn | that's already old. get a vanilla 2.4.24 |
| 14:34.14 | xLobeznox | simonrvn: for compile 2.6 what should I write in command line? |
| 14:34.23 | xLobeznox | make && make install is enought? |
| 14:34.43 | simonrvn | make menuconfig && make && sudo make install |
| 14:35.00 | simonrvn | or use make-kpkg |
| 14:35.06 | simonrvn | @tell xLobeznox about kp |
| 14:36.51 | simonrvn | @+kp |
| 14:36.51 | ravenbird | i heard kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' |
| 14:36.53 | simonrvn | revised |
| 14:44.22 | anjalein | simonrvn: i am becoming crazy..i dont know what i have to install..2.4 or 2.6...vanilla..benh...bitkeeper????? |
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| 14:44.44 | simonrvn | forget bk |
| 14:45.11 | testje | hi |
| 14:45.21 | simonrvn | install what you want. but i suggest you install something that has the security fixes in them. which would be vanilla 2.4.24, or 2.6.1-rc2 |
| 14:45.27 | testje | i'v'e got install trouble |
| 14:45.59 | testje | tried already 5 distro's on my PowerMac 7500 but nada will finish install |
| 14:46.30 | simonrvn | i ran debian on a 7500 for months before i got this 8500. and many others have too |
| 14:46.48 | testje | tried YDL 2.3 , PPCLinix , LinuxPPC , MkLinux & Debian |
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| 14:47.05 | simonrvn | forget mklinux, too old for those |
| 14:47.10 | simonrvn | hi petemc |
| 14:47.12 | testje | always install hangs |
| 14:47.35 | testje | well mk gives me an install but i can't get it configured |
| 14:47.45 | petemc | hey simonrvn |
| 14:47.49 | simonrvn | like i said, forget about mklinux |
| 14:48.07 | simonrvn | that's only good for nubus ppc macs |
| 14:48.18 | simonrvn | and you have a pci mac there |
| 14:48.24 | testje | idd |
| 14:48.31 | Bor_Ed | umm, woody has mklinux install kernel for nubus boxen ... |
| 14:48.49 | jaska | has mklinux been updated in years? |
| 14:48.52 | simonrvn | yeh, still doesn,t negate what i said ;) |
| 14:48.52 | testje | what is woody ? |
| 14:49.09 | testje | nope i have latests distro ( dated '99) |
| 14:49.10 | simonrvn | current stable release of debian |
| 14:49.13 | Bor_Ed | woody is debian 3.0r2 |
| 14:50.19 | testje | linuxppc is dated 2000 , i think they became YDL |
| 14:51.04 | myXtie | simonrvn : i know there is a hole ( kernel.org published it in update ) but http://source.mvista.com:14690/linuxppc-2.5-benh/src/mm?nav=index.html|src/. has the old version of mm/mremap.c 1.34 (5 months) |
| 14:51.04 | simonrvn | yes.. which is why i patched it with rc2 vanilla code... |
| 14:51.11 | simonrvn | scroll up |
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| 14:53.01 | myXtie | everything is 8 days or more don't see it |
| 14:54.09 | myXtie | even paul's kernel is not updated |
| 14:54.11 | anjalein | simonrvn: thanx simon...last question..which patch from benh should i apply to the vanilla 2.6-rc2? or could i install vanilla without an patch? |
| 14:54.14 | simonrvn | i downloaded rc2, took the code from there, and patched the benh tree with it.. |
| 14:54.23 | simonrvn | anjalein: what machine? |
| 14:54.34 | anjalein | powerbook g4 15" |
| 14:54.42 | simonrvn | you can use that np |
| 14:55.31 | anjalein | np? |
| 14:55.38 | simonrvn | no problem |
| 14:56.00 | anjalein | vanilla without patch? |
| 14:56.16 | simonrvn | yes |
| 14:56.41 | anjalein | and what are the patches for? |
| 14:57.26 | anjalein | do you know an install how to for powerbook g4 with vanilla 2.6 and xfree for radeon 9600? |
| 14:58.00 | simonrvn | get certain things working better or differently. though since you probably don't have extremeley new video or whatever, you could probably get away with a vanilla, or wait a few more days for the rsync tree to get updated. |
| 14:58.08 | simonrvn | oh my. forget what i said |
| 14:58.35 | anjalein | why? |
| 15:00.15 | anjalein | radeon 9600 should work with radeon 9000 driver |
| 15:00.25 | simonrvn | wait a couple days, and get the rsync |
| 15:00.32 | simonrvn | hmm maybe |
| 15:00.58 | simonrvn | you could try the vanilla. then if it doesn't work, then wait a bit, and get the new stuff |
| 15:01.07 | anjalein | you mean this : rsync -avz rsync.penguinppc.org::linux-2.4-benh /usr/src/benh_kernel ? |
| 15:01.36 | simonrvn | yeh that. or the mvista.com source |
| 15:01.52 | anjalein | which is newer? better? |
| 15:03.18 | simonrvn | rsync -avz source.mvista.com::linuxppc_2_4_devel -- i use that, but it's at 2.4.24-pre2 |
| 15:04.23 | simonrvn | no it doesn't have the fixed code |
| 15:05.20 | simonrvn | anyway, i need to sleep. have fun |
| 15:05.23 | myXtie | what would you use to rsync a kernel.org kernel ? |
| 15:05.40 | simonrvn | you don't. you use ftp or wget ;) |
| 15:05.54 | myXtie | ok sleep well my friend |
| 15:05.58 | simonrvn | you can, but it's easier to use the latter |
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| 15:06.41 | simonrvn | username Snak. weeee :) |
| 15:07.34 | Bor_Ed | aww |
| 15:07.47 | Bor_Ed | there's xchat port on osx already I recall ? |
| 15:08.20 | mighty-joe | Don't want no ports! Want Debian! Any idea of how i can install debian on an iBook without cd-rom drive? |
| 15:08.53 | Bor_Ed | with root.bin and boot-hfs.img ? |
| 15:08.58 | Bor_Ed | (floppies) |
| 15:09.24 | mighty-joe | nope. just an iBook. No external drives available. |
| 15:09.47 | Bor_Ed | umm, bootp/dhcp/tftp server on lan and netbooting ? |
| 15:10.08 | mighty-joe | My first thought too, but how? |
| 15:10.21 | Bor_Ed | check if debian install doc gives hints |
| 15:10.52 | testje | i tought a cdrom drive was standart on all iBooks |
| 15:12.02 | mighty-joe | yup. but mine is... erm... damaged. the cdrom drive. |
| 15:13.30 | testje | well can't you get a new drive |
| 15:14.01 | mighty-joe | i could. but it'd cost a lot! |
| 15:14.21 | Bor_Ed | get noname slim cd drive... www.linitx.com sells such |
| 15:14.28 | testje | but you should |
| 15:15.06 | testje | is it a clawshell or newer iBook |
| 15:15.20 | mighty-joe | clawshell. |
| 15:15.52 | testje | i have one too , a 300 Mhz |
| 15:16.06 | mighty-joe | Mine is a indigo. |
| 15:16.17 | testje | miner is bleuberry |
| 15:16.40 | testje | Steve signed it in Paris Expo 2001 |
| 15:16.44 | testje | :) |
| 15:17.05 | mighty-joe | Whit linux running? ;) |
| 15:17.07 | testje | it says Stephen P. Jobs |
| 15:17.12 | testje | nope |
| 15:17.22 | testje | i run 10.3 on it |
| 15:17.40 | mighty-joe | at the moment i do too. |
| 15:17.48 | testje | i wont take a Linux box to a Apple Expo |
| 15:18.22 | mighty-joe | You might then not be able to find new friends... *g |
| 15:19.05 | testje | well i never saw a mac running linux on the Expo |
| 15:19.51 | testje | maybe in the us it's common , but here in Europe i think the Expo is a lot smaller then let's say SF |
| 15:20.22 | testje | besides if i wont to run both i need a larger drive |
| 15:20.26 | LarstiQ | testje: you're going to an expo? |
| 15:20.46 | testje | i have to wait until september |
| 15:21.04 | LarstiQ | ah, so the next one isn't close to us then :) |
| 15:21.15 | testje | but maybe i go to the Mac dump days in the Netherlands |
| 15:21.30 | testje | its in about 2 mnths |
| 15:21.59 | testje | where are you LarstiQ ? |
| 15:22.00 | LarstiQ | second hand macs et al? |
| 15:22.04 | LarstiQ | testje: .nl, Den Haag |
| 15:22.05 | testje | idd |
| 15:22.17 | LarstiQ | testje: where is it, Utrecht? |
| 15:22.43 | testje | no , it's called Klokhuis |
| 15:23.16 | testje | in could nbe in Utrecht |
| 15:23.26 | testje | believe so |
| 15:25.27 | testje | still i need help installing Linux on a PowerMac 7500 |
| 15:26.34 | testje | i never intended to install debian because of it's size ( 6 or 7 cd's ) but the #linux pointed me to here |
| 15:26.54 | testje | & #yellowdog ain't helpfull |
| 15:27.08 | LarstiQ | ehm, size? |
| 15:27.24 | testje | i only have a 1.2 Gb HD |
| 15:27.27 | LarstiQ | no one ever needs all those cds, unless there is no internet in the vicinity |
| 15:27.38 | LarstiQ | testje: I can manage with 50Mb |
| 15:27.40 | Bor_Ed | I have installed debian on 7200, 1.3G total space with 190 MB netinst cd |
| 15:27.43 | testje | i see |
| 15:28.34 | testje | i have all the iso's here , i need to burn them tough ( it's previous version so i might be better getting latest 1ste ) |
| 15:28.55 | testje | i have installed mklinux at the moment |
| 15:29.07 | testje | but i cant get it online |
| 15:29.22 | Bor_Ed | you just need 2 floppies and networking to be able to do debian woody netinst |
| 15:29.24 | testje | YellowDog 2.3 wont install |
| 15:30.49 | testje | i need to be able to configure a webserver onto it |
| 15:31.14 | testje | & would like KDE or Gnome on to it to play a bit |
| 15:31.32 | testje | ps my Mac only has 32 Mb Ram |
| 15:31.45 | Bor_Ed | no kde or gnome for that for sure |
| 15:32.05 | testje | i ran gnome in mkLinux |
| 15:32.17 | Bor_Ed | version 1.0rc ? |
| 15:32.30 | testje | dunno |
| 15:32.31 | Bor_Ed | gnome 2.x and kde3.x won't run on 32 megs whatever you try |
| 15:32.48 | testje | mklinux should be version 2rc2 |
| 15:33.09 | xLobeznox | testje: with 32 mb you should try fluxbox, wmaker.. |
| 15:33.11 | Bor_Ed | I run xfce4 here on 64 megs ram... wouldn't even think of any more bloated WM |
| 15:33.12 | LarstiQ | Does anyone know anything about varargs and powerpc? |
| 15:33.25 | xLobeznox | and.. XFCE4 will work slowly |
| 15:33.43 | Bor_Ed | this is fastest WM besides twm I've ran :o |
| 15:33.58 | testje | i ran Mac OS X Server 1.0 perfectly on that Mac |
| 15:34.08 | mmaddin | ION might be a lightweight alternative |
| 15:34.19 | testje | but the partition messed up & i haven't got the cd's no more |
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| 15:36.29 | testje | so this fluxbox or wmaker how do i get those installed , are they on the distro |
| 15:36.40 | torsten | hi, little question, where can i get the benh 2.6 kernel ? sources from kernel.org dont work for my iBook :( |
| 15:36.59 | testje | & how do i know what i have to choose to install from the list of parts |
| 15:37.40 | testje | i tought 2.6 for ppc was still release canidate |
| 15:38.03 | testje | i read that on www.ppckernel.org |
| 15:38.10 | Bor_Ed | 2.6.1 is at rc2 for ppc (As well as peecee) but 2.6.0 is final |
| 15:38.59 | torsten | oh, i didnt know that site, i will search it, thanx |
| 15:39.02 | testje | i use 2.2 at the moment |
| 15:41.58 | torsten | i would like to test2.6 :) |
| 15:42.16 | torsten | but benh does only have 2.6.0test11 |
| 15:42.17 | torsten | :( |
| 15:42.46 | Bor_Ed | benh rsync (on topic) is 2.6.1-rc1 |
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| 15:56.06 | torsten | thx :) |
| 15:56.23 | Bor_Ed | ;:) |
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| 16:34.07 | mighty-joe | did someone try to use an iPod with debian-ppc? |
| 16:38.52 | JimButton | mighty-joe: yes |
| 16:39.06 | JimButton | mighty-joe: not only try to, i am actively using it |
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| 16:40.59 | mighty-joe | what do you use? is there some kind of iTunes for linux? |
| 16:44.13 | treke | anyone have pcmcia working on one of the 15 inch aluminum powerbooks? |
| 16:45.29 | JimButton | mighty-joe: i use gnupod-tools |
| 16:45.36 | JimButton | mighty-joe: it is commandline though |
| 16:45.44 | JimButton | mighty-joe: and it sucks, but i have patched it |
| 16:45.53 | JimButton | there is also some gtk program |
| 16:46.19 | treke | rythmbox support might be cool, then you'd basically have itunes |
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| 16:48.29 | egg | argh i installed debianppc, all went fine, the machine rebooted and i still get the floopy icon with the question mark in it :( |
| 16:48.38 | treke | is it just me, or are the ac adapters for powerbooks way too short |
| 17:04.26 | egg | i give up for now |
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| 17:52.10 | lexiyntax | Installed dri-trunk-sid, X now comes up on my iBook G4 but it fiendishly flickers. |
| 17:52.42 | lexiyntax | I've heard rumors of a working modeline, anyone have one? |
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| 18:25.20 | |fire| | hya |
| 18:31.27 | |fire| | bye |
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| 18:55.39 | Bor_Ed | hmm, shaper is a bniatch but trickle ? |
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| 19:07.23 | aidehua | Any tips for an rsync server, or is there a better way? |
| 19:08.15 | Bor_Ed | check the topic |
| 19:08.32 | Bor_Ed | that's the best way currently |
| 19:09.06 | aidehua | Doh! /me blushes |
| 19:09.16 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 19:09.39 | Bor_Ed | (sh)it happens |
| 19:09.45 | aidehua | I confused the ChanServ message with /topic. /me is thick |
| 19:10.07 | Bor_Ed | no harm done |
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| 19:29.22 | Bor_Ed | wee, found out how to limit apt-get ... trickle -d 6 apt-get <whatever> limits to 6KB/s |
| 19:37.40 | Curalton | hey, cool |
| 19:38.02 | Curalton | just like the unix philosophy - one small program to do the job |
| 19:38.13 | Bor_Ed | finally can stream _and_ update system :o |
| 19:39.01 | Bor_Ed | wee :) |
| 19:42.51 | Bor_Ed | trickle is a bit jumpy but does the job... getting 11 megs of apt to test out |
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| 20:04.05 | Bor_Ed | aww, doesn't limit :I |
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| 20:08.33 | chris`work | So I still lack a working ibook |
| 20:08.59 | chris`work | Did wonder about the sleep function on it though, whether it worked properly in linux or not |
| 20:12.14 | Curalton | on on ibook G3 it works perfectly |
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| 21:34.33 | powerbook | my newest creation: |
| 21:34.37 | powerbook | http://pubwww.fhzh.ch/~mgloor/data/Login.app_ppc.png |
| 21:34.38 | powerbook | :-) |
| 21:38.09 | sloopy | nice :') |
| 21:41.03 | espo | ui looks nice :) |
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| 22:09.01 | Sahneschnitter | powerbook: xdm? |
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| 22:09.38 | Hans-Martin | hi folks |
| 22:10.57 | Curalton | Login.app hints a wdm maybe |
| 22:11.34 | powerbook | http://largo.windowmaker.org/Login.app/ |
| 22:11.48 | powerbook | Sahneschnitter: http://largo.windowmaker.org/Login.app/ |
| 22:18.34 | Hans-Martin | looks like the CIS data on my cards can be read just fine several times, but when the cardmgr tries to read it, it's all 0xff :-( |
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| 22:23.29 | Sahneschnitter | powerbook: yes. thx |
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| 23:12.01 | Hans-Martin | re folks |
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