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| 00:11.40 | xLobeznox | hi |
| 00:11.45 | xLobeznox | there is not acme for kde? |
| 00:12.23 | simonrvn | @tell xLobeznox about search |
| 00:13.02 | xLobeznox | simonrvn: yo se buscar |
| 00:13.15 | xLobeznox | de hecho creo que lo hagao bastante bien solo vine a pedir ayuda para hacerlo mas rapido |
| 00:13.35 | xLobeznox | @tell xLobeznox about search xD |
| 00:20.27 | simonrvn | i have almost no idea what you said, and please try to keep to english, the most people understand it. |
| 00:23.46 | sloopy | simonrvn: two guys came in this game of xpilot and handed my ass to me on a wooden platter... |
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| 00:31.37 | spacecowboy | hey |
| 00:31.46 | spacecowboy | quick question |
| 00:32.42 | spacecowboy | anyone use mol |
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| 00:32.44 | spacecowboy | here |
| 00:35.11 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: you around? |
| 00:35.22 | chris` | Anyone want to look over what I have on this ibook-g4-debianppc-howto so far? |
| 00:37.02 | sloopy | i use it... |
| 00:37.17 | sloopy | use mol that is... |
| 00:38.43 | simonrvn | w00t really cool bug number |
| 00:38.44 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.44 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.44 | simonrvn | Summary: |
| 00:38.54 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 00:53.59 | chris` | http://www.nullcode.org/ppc/ |
| 00:54.12 | chris` | If anyone wants to give the HowTo a little once-over, that's what I have so far |
| 01:04.26 | spacecowboy | hmm |
| 01:04.32 | spacecowboy | chris` |
| 01:04.37 | spacecowboy | chris`: do you run mol? |
| 01:04.45 | chris` | Nope, never heard of it |
| 01:04.52 | spacecowboy | hmm |
| 01:05.14 | chris` | oh? Does mol let me install OSX inside Linux? |
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| 01:06.25 | spacecowboy | no |
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| 01:06.39 | spacecowboy | it lets you run OSX if it is on the same drive or accesable |
| 01:06.41 | spacecowboy | simonrvn:! |
| 01:06.46 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: please please quick question |
| 01:06.56 | spacecowboy | what commands do i use to A) get mol |
| 01:07.00 | spacecowboy | and B) get the right drivers |
| 01:07.06 | spacecowboy | for 2.6.1-rc1-ben1 |
| 01:07.08 | spacecowboy | :D |
| 01:07.14 | chris` | spacecowboy: So I could run the OSX copy I have on /dev/hda6 from inside debian? |
| 01:08.32 | simonrvn | update your kernel :) |
| 01:08.52 | simonrvn | apt-cache search mol |
| 01:09.39 | chris` | While we're all bombarding simonrvn, mind taking a look at http://www.nullcode.org/ppc/ and telling me what you think so far? |
| 01:13.33 | simonrvn | H == herrenschmidt |
| 01:14.55 | chris` | I wrote that without internet in class, it's on the "look up later" list :) |
| 01:16.12 | spacecowboy | simonrvn ? |
| 01:16.42 | spacecowboy | simon and i go way back |
| 01:16.43 | spacecowboy | ;p |
| 01:16.44 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 01:16.45 | spacecowboy | anyways |
| 01:16.52 | spacecowboy | simon.. to 2.6.1-ben1 |
| 01:16.56 | simonrvn | yes |
| 01:17.56 | sloopy | chris`: get the source for mol and compile it... |
| 01:18.13 | sloopy | spacecowboy: get the source and compile it... |
| 01:18.36 | sloopy | chris`: yes it runs Mac OS (classic or X) in a VT or in an X window... |
| 01:19.01 | spacecowboy | sloopy ... hows about no... so i can have the mods and stuff nice and neat :) |
| 01:19.01 | spacecowboy | sloopy ok you win... where is it? |
| 01:19.02 | spacecowboy | :D |
| 01:19.14 | sloopy | www.maconlinux.org |
| 01:19.47 | sloopy | spacecowboy: also subscribe to the mailing list while your there too ;') |
| 01:20.13 | spacecowboy | ok |
| 01:20.46 | spacecowboy | i should probably update this kernel first |
| 01:20.56 | spacecowboy | simonrvn are there substancial upgrades/updates |
| 01:20.57 | spacecowboy | for me |
| 01:20.59 | spacecowboy | a student |
| 01:21.00 | spacecowboy | of 15 |
| 01:21.07 | spacecowboy | things that really affect me |
| 01:21.09 | simonrvn | yeh, security :) |
| 01:21.10 | sloopy | yeah make sure you have the kernel sources... |
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| 01:23.01 | sindre | Hi, is telnet included with the root.bin/linux.bin? |
| 01:23.10 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: how much security :).... is it worth 10 mins of compiling :) |
| 01:23.42 | simonrvn | yes |
| 01:23.58 | simonrvn | it's certianly worth 3 hours, it's worth 10 minutes. |
| 01:24.04 | simonrvn | @lart spacecowboy |
| 01:24.42 | simonrvn | use that horsepower already... :) |
| 01:24.54 | spacecowboy | en route... |
| 01:25.15 | spacecowboy | me thinks that the version on maconlinux.org isn't new enough.. is that a stupid thought |
| 01:25.19 | simonrvn | i'm running a server on an old 604e 8500, and you won't build a kernel that will be done in ~10 minutes? dude, perspective.. |
| 01:25.39 | simonrvn | @hug spacecowboy |
| 01:26.35 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 01:26.36 | spacecowboy | i'm sorry |
| 01:26.50 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: is that what you say too... go get the source from online? |
| 01:26.55 | spacecowboy | something i am missing |
| 01:27.03 | spacecowboy | i remember back in the gentoo days (ACK) |
| 01:27.07 | spacecowboy | something was messed up |
| 01:27.09 | simonrvn | you can rsync mol too, from mvista.com even :) |
| 01:27.11 | spacecowboy | i needed a newer version |
| 01:27.20 | spacecowboy | beecause of my newer tibook |
| 01:27.23 | spacecowboy | simonrvn REALLY! |
| 01:27.30 | spacecowboy | do give me the address :) |
| 01:28.10 | simonrvn | sec, i have to tab complete it |
| 01:28.20 | chris` | simonrvn: so any other problems you could see? |
| 01:28.55 | simonrvn | rsync --delete -avz source.mvista.com::mol mol |
| 01:29.10 | simonrvn | rsync --delete -avz source.mvista.com::libmol libmol |
| 01:29.15 | spacecowboy | ? |
| 01:30.30 | simonrvn | nope |
| 01:33.26 | spacecowboy | why libmol and mol |
| 01:33.31 | spacecowboy | libs are modules? |
| 01:34.12 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.19 | simonrvn | -- mol Mac-On-Linux Source |
| 01:34.30 | simonrvn | accroding to my zsh tab completion |
| 01:34.48 | simonrvn | (probably stuff from the rsyncd) |
| 01:35.45 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: so i do need both...? |
| 01:35.57 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: where do i put the libmol? |
| 01:36.42 | simonrvn | i'm just giving the info, i've never used those sources. go with mol first i guess, and get libmol if you need it |
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| 01:57.56 | sindre | Hm, how do I set type to Linux Swap with mac-fdisk? |
| 01:58.57 | chris`laptop | sindre: use c to make the partition, name it "swap" |
| 01:59.01 | chris`laptop | That's all you need to do |
| 01:59.13 | sindre | oh, oki |
| 01:59.37 | sindre | Thanks. I tried C and setting type to swap. Didn't work too well :-P |
| 01:59.40 | chris`laptop | The partition types made with C are largely ignored so just make partitions with c |
| 02:02.38 | sindre | Aha, oki. Thanks for the help :-) |
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| 02:07.55 | sindre | Ugg. When "Configure Device DriverModules" starts it says "No modules wew found in /target/lib/modules/2.4.20-ben5, please install kernel modules(...) |
| 02:09.01 | chris`laptop | What type of system? |
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| 02:11.04 | sindre | hm, ibook g4 |
| 02:11.12 | chris`laptop | ah, :) |
| 02:11.16 | chris`laptop | Want to be a test subject? |
| 02:11.24 | sindre | Sure |
| 02:11.42 | chris`laptop | Currently writing this: http://nullcode.org/ppc/ |
| 02:12.10 | sindre | oki |
| 02:13.03 | sindre | Hm. Perhaps I should fetch that xfs-cd? Instead of putting yaboot, yaboot.conf, linux.bin(modified to support ata100 controller) and root.bin on my osx / |
| 02:13.21 | chris`laptop | yeah, don't use that method if you have a current system |
| 02:13.30 | chris`laptop | It's so much easier / nicer to use the netinst cd :) |
| 02:14.31 | sindre | Yeah, probably. But I still don't understand that error-messege I'm getting. It comes when i do X, and it tells me to do X to fix it (infinte loop) |
| 02:15.01 | chris`laptop | Not sure, I didn't want to touch 2.4.x with this system |
| 02:15.42 | chris`laptop | Your kernel is also 3 revisions out of date |
| 02:15.46 | chris`laptop | wait, 4? |
| 02:15.59 | chris`laptop | I haven't been following 2.4 much |
| 02:16.03 | sindre | It's the one following those files I downloaded. |
| 02:16.15 | sindre | Which were linked from brandens site iirc. |
| 02:16.28 | chris`laptop | The branden howto? |
| 02:16.33 | sindre | yeeeh |
| 02:16.48 | chris`laptop | That was written a while back so that might explain why |
| 02:17.34 | sindre | Possibly, but I also read an updated for the g4-ibook, and according to that all I had to do different was replacing that linux.bin with the one linked from his site. |
| 02:18.12 | chris`laptop | I didn't bother with the other fs boot, seemed like a waste of time considering how new the ibooks are, all the ppc cds can basically boot on them |
| 02:18.25 | sindre | Oki |
| 02:18.59 | sindre | I'll try to fetch a ppc-cd. Problem is probably that I'm out of CDs ;P |
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| 02:28.16 | spacecowboy | phew |
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| 03:22.10 | rustybofh | Away: ( seeing futurama ) | Since: ( Fri Jan 16 04:22:11 2004 ) |
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| 03:23.14 | egg | Bor_Ed: I got X to work :D |
| 03:23.25 | chris`laptop | egg: what system type? |
| 03:23.34 | egg | Oldworld Mac |
| 03:23.39 | egg | Only 16MB or RAM |
| 03:24.06 | chris`laptop | ow |
| 03:25.37 | egg | I need to find 60 ns 168-pin Fast Page DIMMs |
| 03:25.44 | egg | I'm in Australia so it isn't easy |
| 03:28.34 | egg | What is the path for the sound on old world macs? |
| 03:28.42 | egg | not /dev/dsp ? |
| 03:30.12 | egg | hmmm... all the colors seem to be funky. wrong display mode perhaps? |
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| 04:38.02 | spacecowboy | howdy |
| 04:39.48 | egg | hi |
| 04:40.07 | spacecowboy | egg do you use alsa? |
| 04:40.23 | egg | i don't think i downloaded the package |
| 04:40.28 | spacecowboy | oh |
| 04:40.39 | spacecowboy | sry |
| 05:12.56 | sloopy | hmmm |
| 05:15.34 | sloopy | egg: which oldworld mac? |
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| 05:18.03 | HAT | eep |
| 05:18.09 | HAT | my ghost is still here |
| 05:21.01 | sloopy | hey egg, which oldworld do you have? |
| 05:21.09 | HAT | 603e |
| 05:21.40 | egg_ | 4400/200 |
| 05:21.47 | sloopy | ahhh |
| 05:21.57 | sloopy | and you got X running on it? congrats... |
| 05:22.22 | egg_ | very slowly though ;) |
| 05:23.03 | sloopy | my quadra 800 probly runs X faster :') |
| 05:23.39 | egg_ | Probably |
| 05:23.57 | egg_ | the ppc only has 16MB of RAM |
| 05:24.28 | sloopy | my Q800 has 136megs... |
| 05:24.42 | egg_ | :E |
| 05:24.56 | egg_ | What type of RAM does it take? |
| 05:25.12 | sloopy | my Q800? 72pin FPM simms... |
| 05:25.34 | egg_ | ah. this thing takes FP 168PIN DIMMs. Have to be 60ns |
| 05:25.41 | egg_ | ;_; |
| 05:25.48 | sloopy | 60? hmmm |
| 05:26.51 | sloopy | well if you put 32megs of ram in it, it will be significantly faster them my Q800 in X |
| 05:27.17 | egg_ | ionly it were that easy just to pop another DIMM in there. |
| 05:27.35 | egg_ | can't find any... might need to comb ebay |
| 05:28.52 | egg_ | oh, btw, in X, all the colors are off (eg, taskbar is bright pink, buttons look odd) what could be causing this? bad video mode? wrong display module? |
| 05:29.07 | sloopy | www.macsales.com ships to the island i do believe... |
| 05:32.12 | egg_ | ah it's EDO not FPM |
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| 06:19.17 | sloopy | egg: you said a flakey color map in X? |
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| 06:36.46 | sloopy | egg: you still have color problems in X |
| 06:36.58 | egg | yep |
| 06:37.01 | sloopy | let me check something... |
| 06:37.10 | sloopy | you said it is a 4400 right? |
| 06:37.14 | egg | Yes |
| 06:37.54 | egg | it might be running in 16 or 256 colours or something |
| 06:38.29 | sloopy | someone sent me an XF86Config for my UMAX C500 which works... and it should be the same on your machine since they both use the valkyrie video... |
| 06:38.37 | sloopy | i am looking to see if i can find it... |
| 06:39.32 | egg | output-device /bandit/ATY,264VT |
| 06:39.53 | sloopy | aty? hmmm that would be ati mach 64... |
| 06:40.00 | egg | Yep |
| 06:40.31 | sloopy | hmmm thought the C500 and the 4400 was the same :'/ |
| 06:40.50 | egg | well, it's a 7220 (the Australian version of the 4400) |
| 06:41.40 | egg | its ok now |
| 06:41.50 | egg | it just didn't like using 16 bit colour :) |
| 06:41.58 | egg | thanks for your help |
| 06:44.28 | sloopy | np... |
| 06:44.42 | sloopy | i cant even tell what kind of video my c500 has... |
| 06:45.14 | sloopy | there was no monitor hooked to it when it booted.. |
| 06:45.27 | sloopy | it says it has a 32x32 display :') |
| 06:46.51 | sloopy | heh... ok i am an idiot... the window i used to ssh into my router was already ssh'ed into it... |
| 06:48.09 | egg | what command do i use to see what my IP address is? |
| 06:48.43 | egg | im still a n00b |
| 06:49.29 | sloopy | ifconfig |
| 06:50.30 | egg | t |
| 06:50.54 | egg | thanks |
| 06:53.24 | sloopy | np |
| 07:00.14 | mmaddin | the modern alternative to ifconfig is /bin/ip from iproute -> "ip addr" |
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| 12:30.45 | Dizzutch | hey guys, is there a way to force more memory usage to the swap drive in stead of the RAM? |
| 12:31.00 | Dizzutch | cuz my RAM is 80% in use and the swap drive 23% |
| 12:31.37 | simonrvn | no, the kernel does that. it'll use all the RAM it can. free RAM is wasted RAM |
| 12:33.15 | Dizzutch | ok |
| 12:33.40 | Dizzutch | cuz i notice that when the RAM goes over about 85% the computer starts getting slower |
| 12:34.04 | simonrvn | check the swap too, might be filling up too |
| 12:34.36 | Dizzutch | ok |
| 12:34.40 | Dizzutch | right now it's at 22% |
| 12:34.59 | Dizzutch | is there a doc on rhe kernel's RAM/Swap usage? |
| 12:35.05 | Dizzutch | i'll look on tldp.org |
| 12:35.27 | Dizzutch | i'll look around, work time,thanks |
| 12:35.33 | simonrvn | yeh, look there and look in the kernel source Documentation/ dir too. might be some docs there too |
| 12:45.32 | dolphy | gimp1.3 depends on libgimp1.3 (= 1.3.24+2.0pre1); however: |
| 12:45.32 | dolphy | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.39 | dolphy | doesn't that sound completely stupid ? |
| 12:46.29 | simonrvn | yes, deps can be very dumb. i just put that on hold. wait til it gets sorted out |
| 12:46.53 | dolphy | simonrvn: howdy ! :) |
| 12:46.59 | simonrvn | heya |
| 12:47.00 | dolphy | simonrvn: wassup ? |
| 12:47.12 | simonrvn | not much, freezing my balls off =) |
| 12:47.21 | dolphy | huhu :) |
| 12:47.35 | dolphy | it's 14 degrees here in barcelona :) |
| 12:48.21 | simonrvn | it was -23 last night, windchill of -40 -> -45 |
| 12:48.42 | simonrvn | (yes °C) |
| 12:53.31 | dolphy | simonrvn: woaow |
| 12:53.39 | dolphy | simonrvn: that hurts :) |
| 12:54.09 | simonrvn | it was warmer on mars yesterday than it was here. -11 on mars |
| 12:54.19 | dolphy | lucky martians :) |
| 12:54.46 | dolphy | simonrvn: are you using 2.6.1-rc1-ben1. ? |
| 12:55.04 | simonrvn | no. upgrade that. it has security issues |
| 12:55.11 | simonrvn | 2.6.1-ben1 |
| 12:55.33 | dolphy | simonrvn: and you are using 2.6 then ? |
| 12:55.55 | simonrvn | /exec -o uname -r |
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| 12:56.20 | GeeSeCillo | hi |
| 12:56.40 | dolphy | simonrvn: i was wondering if i should switch. i currently have 2.4.23-pre5 |
| 12:56.40 | GeeSeCillo | i download a patches: |
| 12:56.41 | GeeSeCillo | http://airsnort.shmoo.com/orinoco-0.11b-patch.diff |
| 12:56.41 | GeeSeCillo | http://www.swieskowski.net/code/wifi/orinoco-0.11b-airport.diff |
| 12:57.01 | GeeSeCillo | and i patch a kernel with patch -s -p0 < orinoco-0.11b-airport.diff |
| 12:57.02 | GeeSeCillo | it's correct |
| 12:57.05 | GeeSeCillo | but ... |
| 12:57.09 | simonrvn | dolphy: upgrade that too. same reason, security issues |
| 12:57.17 | GeeSeCillo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.17 | GeeSeCillo | 2 out of 4 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file orinoco-0.11b/hermes.h.rej |
| 12:57.17 | GeeSeCillo | 6 out of 12 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file orinoco-0.11b/orinoco.c.rej |
| 12:57.22 | GeeSeCillo | failed... ;_( |
| 12:57.24 | GeeSeCillo | some ideas? |
| 12:57.47 | GeeSeCillo | i have a airport card and kernel 2.4 |
| 12:57.52 | simonrvn | you can hand patch it. though make sure the patch is for the same kenel version as you have sources for. |
| 12:57.57 | simonrvn | kernel* |
| 12:58.19 | GeeSeCillo | simonrvn, how to? |
| 12:58.22 | simonrvn | if it isn't, you can still fix it, but it means meticulous work in doing it properly |
| 12:58.29 | GeeSeCillo | how to i do it? |
| 12:58.36 | simonrvn | with a text editor |
| 12:58.54 | GeeSeCillo | simonrvn, i'm not programed ;( |
| 12:59.00 | GeeSeCillo | programer |
| 12:59.18 | simonrvn | niether am i. i've still done it. |
| 12:59.21 | simonrvn | neither* |
| 12:59.35 | GeeSeCillo | mmm |
| 12:59.51 | GeeSeCillo | i don't know edit it ;( |
| 13:00.08 | simonrvn | now's your chance to start learning :) |
| 13:00.24 | GeeSeCillo | hehe |
| 13:01.22 | GeeSeCillo | thanx simonrvn |
| 13:01.40 | simonrvn | good luck :) |
| 13:02.00 | GeeSeCillo | thanx simonrvn ;) |
| 13:02.30 | simonrvn | here's a couple of tips. the .rej files are code bits that got rejected |
| 13:02.53 | GeeSeCillo | ok |
| 13:03.14 | dolphy | simonrvn: and how is it to run 2.6 ? i mean aren't you having big troubles with other softwares and so on ? |
| 13:03.21 | simonrvn | what you need to do is to re-insert that code into the source, and taking care not to insert duplicate code, paying attention to the lines given in the patch (or .rej file) |
| 13:04.04 | simonrvn | i'd suggest you use an editor that will help you figure out the brackets and syntax of the code, like vim or emacs |
| 13:04.58 | simonrvn | dolphy: not really. some yeh, but they still work. just make sure you install module-init-tools before you boot into 2.6.x |
| 13:05.12 | simonrvn | GeeSeCillo: no need to /msg me |
| 13:05.29 | GeeSeCillo | simonrvn do u speak spanish? |
| 13:05.31 | simonrvn | no i don't |
| 13:05.42 | GeeSeCillo | okay |
| 13:05.52 | simonrvn | sorry :/ |
| 13:05.59 | GeeSeCillo | np ;P |
| 13:06.06 | simonrvn | i only understand a few words |
| 13:06.12 | simonrvn | g'morning |
| 13:06.18 | mmaddin | simonrvn: any idea why 2.6.x fails compiling drivers/ide/ppc/pmac.c ("undeclared identifier")? |
| 13:07.06 | simonrvn | ouch, still doing that eh? checked lkml ? |
| 13:07.27 | mmaddin | googled. Not directly on lkml yet |
| 13:07.52 | mmaddin | There's no special prerequisite to just _compile_ 2.6.x, right? |
| 13:08.07 | mmaddin | even tried with gcc-2.95 instead of 3.x |
| 13:08.18 | simonrvn | i used a 3.x.x gcc, but that's just my default gcc |
| 13:08.40 | simonrvn | i don't have ide, so it didn't pop up |
| 13:09.01 | mmaddin | hehe, without IDE it compiles just fine. But that's not quite usabel on a PowerBook ;) |
| 13:09.21 | simonrvn | eh, no ;) |
| 13:11.08 | chris`work | maddin: There are a few PCI IDE deps you need for pmac |
| 13:11.17 | chris`work | At least when I tried |
| 13:11.30 | mmaddin | oh? you know which? |
| 13:11.35 | dolphy | simonrvn: and any benefit ? |
| 13:12.12 | simonrvn | yes, a few. scheduler is 'smarter', for one |
| 13:12.26 | simonrvn | @+listkeys halloween |
| 13:12.29 | ravenbird | Factoid search of 'halloween' by key (2 shown): halloween text ;; halloween. |
| 13:12.37 | simonrvn | @+halloween text |
| 13:12.38 | ravenbird | http://www.linux.org.uk/~davej/docs/post-halloween-2.6.txt-devel |
| 13:12.43 | simonrvn | read that |
| 13:12.53 | dolphy | k thx |
| 13:13.22 | mmaddin | chris`work: Do you have any more details on the ide dependencies? |
| 13:14.56 | chris`work | Can't recall right now, they're in defconfig though |
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| 13:16.36 | kletter-matze | hi |
| 13:16.57 | kletter-matze | the next problem :-) |
| 13:17.07 | kletter-matze | the bootloader |
| 13:17.34 | simonrvn | which one |
| 13:27.26 | kletter-matze | i have 2 hard disks....on the first one mac os x is installed an on the second one debian 3.0 |
| 13:27.39 | kletter-matze | so can I use lilo or grub or so? |
| 13:28.19 | simonrvn | not on ppc |
| 13:28.22 | kletter-matze | mac os x is currently the default one |
| 13:28.29 | kletter-matze | yaboot or BootX? |
| 13:28.30 | simonrvn | yaboot |
| 13:28.41 | kletter-matze | and how can I configure it? |
| 13:28.55 | simonrvn | yabootconfig |
| 13:29.18 | kletter-matze | the file yaboot.config? or is that a program yabootconfig? |
| 13:29.39 | kletter-matze | its like the lilo.conf? |
| 13:29.58 | chris`work | yaboot |
| 13:30.07 | chris`work | *yaboot's config is a lot like lilo's |
| 13:30.11 | simonrvn | yabootconfig is a program |
| 13:30.15 | chris`work | `man yaboot.conf" |
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| 13:30.38 | simonrvn | wee :) |
| 13:30.58 | chris`work | oooo, I get a dual opteron system to play with |
| 13:31.33 | kletter-matze | this programs makes the rest? |
| 13:31.47 | simonrvn | it should get you started |
| 13:31.50 | kletter-matze | do the rest?...sorry for my bad english |
| 13:32.12 | kletter-matze | ok i try it..thx |
| 13:32.30 | simonrvn | then you read the relevant man pages (yaboot, yaboot.conf, bootstrap) and go fro mthere |
| 13:32.37 | simonrvn | from t* |
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| 13:37.24 | |fire| | hya |
| 13:37.36 | simonrvn | hello |
| 13:46.37 | Bor_Ed | make-kpkg takes _some_ time :o |
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| 13:51.07 | strat50s | hi |
| 13:51.22 | simonrvn | yes it does *sigh* |
| 13:51.26 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: ^^ |
| 13:51.37 | Bor_Ed | prolly shoulda drop to console mode ... naa :) |
| 13:52.35 | Bor_Ed | hiya strat50s |
| 13:53.10 | simonrvn | i did when i had like 52-96 mb ram |
| 13:53.21 | strat50s | is it important for Debian XFS to boot onto a new iBook G4 to put the Apple_bootstrap partition before my Mac OS X HFS* partition? |
| 13:53.30 | Bor_Ed | and I have ~3 megs free before starting make :) |
| 13:53.39 | strat50s | I installed it and... well it simply just don't boot |
| 13:54.04 | simonrvn | strat50s: could you say that differently? i didn't understand |
| 13:54.17 | strat50s | let me see... |
| 13:54.20 | Bor_Ed | gee, external 100MB scsi zip drive 50 cents ... I think it'd become handy :) |
| 13:54.25 | strat50s | I'm Spanish so I'll try again.-.. |
| 13:54.33 | simonrvn | take your time |
| 13:54.51 | strat50s | I have a bootstrap partition in the first 800k of my HD ok? |
| 13:55.07 | strat50s | then I've the Linux swap partition about 768 MB |
| 13:55.26 | simonrvn | uh no. first mistake. don't put the swap first |
| 13:55.32 | strat50s | then about 29 GB in a Linux XFS one... |
| 13:55.38 | strat50s | that's what I mean... |
| 13:55.49 | simonrvn | put it after an FS partition |
| 13:55.54 | simonrvn | so say: |
| 13:55.54 | strat50s | first the bootstrap and, after it, HDS* |
| 13:56.03 | strat50s | HFS+ I mean |
| 13:56.09 | strat50s | so... then this order... |
| 13:56.22 | simonrvn | NW bootstrap, then linux, then swap, then linux, then future macosx partition |
| 13:56.27 | strat50s | Bootstrap -> HFS+ -> Swap -> XDS |
| 13:56.30 | strat50s | oh.. |
| 13:56.36 | simonrvn | for example |
| 13:56.37 | strat50s | XFS shit |
| 13:56.51 | strat50s | oh and other thing... |
| 13:57.33 | strat50s | I read that, if I'm gonna share the disk between Debian and Mac OS X I must create two HFS+ partitions |
| 13:57.47 | strat50s | the first one should be deleted and then used to create the NW Bootstrap.. |
| 13:58.00 | strat50s | and the second one... to host Mac OS X |
| 13:58.06 | strat50s | that's really necessary? |
| 13:58.14 | strat50s | I have free space at the start of my hard disk |
| 13:58.25 | simonrvn | safer to yes, one hfs, one hfs+ (the hfs+ for macosx). linux can read hfs+ now, but both are risky |
| 13:58.46 | simonrvn | so if you mount them, mount them r/o |
| 13:58.56 | strat50s | r/o is enough for me |
| 13:59.26 | strat50s | so then I can create with Mac OS X installer... |
| 13:59.34 | strat50s | first HFS and then HFS+ |
| 13:59.41 | strat50s | and, from Debian using mac-fdisk... |
| 14:00.07 | strat50s | delete HFS and... create NW Bootstrap... Linux ... Swap... Linux e.g. |
| 14:00.42 | simonrvn | well, actually, what i'd do is use mac-fdisk to make the partitions, but leave the future hfs partitions free space, so macosx can install itself there |
| 14:01.32 | strat50s | so I can install Mac OS X after installing Debian without problems? |
| 14:01.37 | simonrvn | chris`work has a nice doc about that. also check the mac-fdisk howto at penguinppc.org |
| 14:01.52 | chris`work | strat50s: nullcode.org/ppc/ , look at the partitioning section |
| 14:01.54 | simonrvn | yeh, i would think so :) |
| 14:02.05 | strat50s | I did |
| 14:02.06 | strat50s | :) |
| 14:02.14 | strat50s | but... as I read in that doc... |
| 14:02.33 | strat50s | it seems to be important to reorder the partitions tu put first NW bootstrap and then HFS* |
| 14:02.35 | strat50s | HFS+ |
| 14:02.49 | simonrvn | yes, bootstrap is *always* first |
| 14:02.52 | strat50s | but you simonrvn say it isn't |
| 14:03.00 | strat50s | yeah... bootstrap first |
| 14:03.02 | simonrvn | 13:56:21 simonrvn | NW bootstrap, then linux, then swap, then linux, then future macosx partition |
| 14:03.08 | strat50s | but after it... |
| 14:03.09 | chris`work | simonrvn: first after the partition map |
| 14:03.13 | simonrvn | 13:56:35 simonrvn | for example |
| 14:03.21 | simonrvn | chris`work: of course :) |
| 14:03.46 | strat50s | ok :) |
| 14:03.47 | chris`work | Basically, add the bootstrap first then your linux partitions. Then leave a partition of free space that OSX can install in |
| 14:03.55 | strat50s | I think now i can install this thing... |
| 14:04.09 | simonrvn | install guide has all this too |
| 14:04.13 | simonrvn | @+ig |
| 14:04.13 | ravenbird | i heard install guide is http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ or http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst or if you're totally clueless read http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016&page=1 too |
| 14:04.38 | simonrvn | you're just using the xfs cd instaed of the pure woody cd, that's all |
| 14:04.48 | strat50s | well I just cannot install the stable version 'cause it doesn't recognise both my hard disk and my CD-ROM |
| 14:05.00 | strat50s | the only one who seems to recognise them is the XFS for new PowerMac |
| 14:05.02 | chris`work | strat50s: What type of system? |
| 14:06.57 | chris`work | simonrvn: I noticed last night that the howto I wrote looks a lot like branden's which is funny, I chose the colors off the top of my head in the hex value and I ended up matching the default "silver" he used |
| 14:07.34 | strat50s | my system is a new iBook G4 |
| 14:07.40 | strat50s | 933 Mhz |
| 14:07.46 | simonrvn | chris`work: neat |
| 14:07.46 | chris`work | ah, same as mine then |
| 14:07.58 | chris`work | simonrvn: I think I'll have to change it :) |
| 14:08.22 | strat50s | ok so I'm gonna try to install this thing |
| 14:08.28 | strat50s | thanks a lot everyone who helped me :) |
| 14:08.31 | strat50s | see ya soon |
| 14:08.34 | strat50s | good bye! |
| 14:10.59 | simonrvn | you could.. heh |
| 14:12.01 | chris`work | I should clean it up today, realized I missed some important details in what I had already |
| 14:12.12 | chris`work | Not like I'll learn anything in my asm class |
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| 14:13.25 | kletter-matze | re |
| 14:13.32 | kletter-matze | ok i read the man pages about yaboot.conf |
| 14:13.38 | kletter-matze | i also installed yaboot |
| 14:14.18 | kletter-matze | and I add an entry like macosx=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot to /etc/yaboot.conf |
| 14:14.29 | kletter-matze | and so I get a boot prompt... |
| 14:14.47 | kletter-matze | but if I type X in it...no X start |
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| 14:15.30 | kletter-matze | any idea? |
| 14:16.27 | kletter-matze | uuupppss |
| 14:23.17 | chris`work | Doesn't macosx have to point to a partition? |
| 14:23.39 | chris`work | http://nullcode.org/ppc/yaboot.conf |
| 14:25.22 | kletter-matze | yes of course |
| 14:25.39 | simonrvn | /usr/lib/yaboot/ofbootisn't a macos part. |
| 14:25.42 | kletter-matze | thats why i wwrote uuppps |
| 14:27.27 | kletter-matze | oh no |
| 14:28.01 | kletter-matze | now ive made an entry like this http://nullcode.org/ppc/yaboot.conf |
| 14:28.17 | kletter-matze | and under that i wrote device=ultra1 |
| 14:28.24 | kletter-matze | save -> ybin -v reboot |
| 14:28.39 | kletter-matze | and now he couldn't find an kernel |
| 14:29.05 | kletter-matze | need help |
| 14:29.19 | chris`work | Reboot and hold "Option" |
| 14:29.24 | chris`work | Then choose your drive from the list |
| 14:29.38 | bighawk | did anybody get sleep working yet on the ibook g4? |
| 14:29.52 | chris`work | bighawk: it isn't supported in the kernel yet |
| 14:30.07 | chris`work | It won't be supported until ATI gets specs to BenH |
| 14:30.09 | bighawk | chris`work: that's what i thought, but i've read about people who claimed that they had it working |
| 14:30.19 | kletter-matze | and hold "Option" what do you mean with option?? |
| 14:30.47 | bighawk | chris`work: too bad, can't really use linux then when not on ac-power :/ but i ll have patience |
| 14:31.34 | chris`work | Really? |
| 14:31.39 | chris`work | I have no problem using my battery |
| 14:32.08 | chris`work | kletter-matze: The option key, hold it while you boot |
| 14:32.23 | kletter-matze | and what is the option key? |
| 14:32.32 | kletter-matze | control? |
| 14:32.36 | mmaddin | nope, alt |
| 14:32.40 | kletter-matze | ah ok |
| 14:32.40 | kletter-matze | thx |
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| 14:33.43 | bighawk | chris`work: oh it works |
| 14:34.07 | bighawk | chris`work: but not being able to go to sleep *sucks* for a laptop, and it's unsafe to close the lid when the system is running |
| 14:34.59 | kletter-matze | thats really nice -> the option key... |
| 14:35.18 | chris`work | bighawk: I haven't had a problem with `shutdown -h now` personally :) |
| 14:35.24 | kletter-matze | but my problem is that I destroy the bootloader |
| 14:35.30 | kletter-matze | with a bad entry |
| 14:35.32 | bighawk | chris`work: often you close your lid for just 5 min or something |
| 14:35.37 | bighawk | chris`work: you dont want to shutdown then. |
| 14:36.06 | mmaddin | kletter-matze: boot from installation cd, mount the linux partition, chroot into it and fix what you broke |
| 14:36.36 | mmaddin | fix = probably just call ybin again |
| 14:36.54 | kletter-matze | no other way? |
| 14:37.42 | kletter-matze | I thaught I can make an entry like device=/pci@f4000000/ata-6@d/disk@0 |
| 14:38.31 | sk1p | i think you can boot linux using hd:,path/to/kernel/image in yaboot |
| 14:40.43 | kletter-matze | hmmmm |
| 14:41.02 | kletter-matze | hd:,/vmlinuz No such file or directory |
| 14:41.53 | sk1p | hm. the format must've been a bit different.. |
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| 14:47.37 | kletter-matze | hmmmm |
| 14:48.08 | kletter-matze | i only have a debian xfs cd |
| 14:48.24 | kletter-matze | so I cannot boot a rescue system |
| 14:48.30 | sk1p | try hd:your-linux-partition-number,/vmlinuz |
| 14:48.49 | mmaddin | kletter-matze: why not? the installation cd should give you a shell on vty2 |
| 14:49.19 | mmaddin | s/vty2/tty2/ |
| 14:51.09 | kletter-matze | yes of course |
| 14:52.18 | kletter-matze | but i have no permissions to do this |
| 14:52.33 | GeeSeCillo | someone has a airport card? |
| 14:52.56 | kletter-matze | chroot / /dev/hde4 Permission denied |
| 14:53.12 | sk1p | kletter-matze: only chroot /dev/hde4 |
| 14:53.21 | mmaddin | kletter-matze: mount /dev/hde4 /target, then chroot /target |
| 14:53.28 | sk1p | heh, yea |
| 14:53.29 | sk1p | :> |
| 14:57.50 | kletter-matze | next problem |
| 14:58.05 | kletter-matze | after changing the entry in /etc/yaboot.conf |
| 14:58.14 | kletter-matze | i have to make a ybin -v |
| 14:58.45 | kletter-matze | nothing said :-) |
| 15:00.43 | kletter-matze | thx a lot it works |
| 15:00.49 | mmaddin | :) |
| 15:01.42 | kletter-matze | wish a nice day...bye |
| 15:01.53 | sk1p | bye |
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| 15:48.58 | netbrain | http://groups.google.com/groups?q=netbrain.no&hl=no&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=b324c60f.0401160338.70d191ed%40posting.google.com&rnum=2 <-- anyone ? |
| 15:49.56 | mmaddin | what machine? Powerbook? |
| 15:51.01 | netbrain | ibook yes |
| 15:51.37 | Curalton | link too long.. msgid maybe? |
| 15:53.44 | mmaddin | Message-ID: <b324c60f.0401160338.70d191ed@posting.google.com> |
| 15:54.26 | mmaddin | netbrain: not sure about ibooks, but on the tibook there is a way to reset the internal power manager or something. Perhaps this helps? |
| 15:55.02 | mmaddin | more info on this should be in the manual |
| 15:55.10 | netbrain | any idea on how i can do that? |
| 15:55.21 | mmaddin | The manual that came with the machine? |
| 15:55.30 | netbrain | mmaddin: it's a computer im leasing from my school. so there wasn't a manual with it. |
| 15:55.41 | mmaddin | ah. |
| 15:55.50 | netbrain | does apple realease manualso on inet? |
| 15:55.57 | mmaddin | perhaps there are symbols on the back somewhere, near the connectors? Not sure... |
| 15:58.57 | netbrain | there is nothing resembling a triangle within a circle |
| 15:58.57 | mmaddin | for the key combos that didn't work: did you press the keys early enough in the boot process? after a cold start? |
| 16:01.11 | chris`work | That post is hilarious |
| 16:01.11 | netbrain | i have the modem connector, tpm firewire usb 1 and 2 and monitor thingy and headset. then on the other side there is the cdrom and power connector |
| 16:01.12 | netbrain | chris`work: mine? |
| 16:01.12 | chris`work | netbrain: I like the spelling |
| 16:01.14 | netbrain | hehe.. i wrote it in a jiffy |
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| 16:01.14 | netbrain | i was at school. and the teacher was staring at me when i was writing it. |
| 16:01.32 | netbrain | sorry bout the spellin |
| 16:01.32 | pabl0 | hi!, someone has IBM RS/6000 B50? |
| 16:01.34 | pabl0 | *has a |
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| 16:05.56 | pabl0 | I have a IBM RS/6000 B50, and I'm unable to boot with a zImage that I downloaded, I get: Unable to mount fd0 |
| 16:12.35 | netbrain | chris`work: exactly what will resetting the power manager do? |
| 16:12.42 | netbrain | reset open firmware? |
| 16:16.30 | Bor_Ed | umm, make-kpkg required root priviledges ... 4 hours compile to see that :I |
| 16:19.25 | mmaddin | Bor_Ed: use fakeroot instead of real root privileges |
| 16:19.38 | Bor_Ed | did su -c and continuing |
| 16:19.51 | Bor_Ed | building package now |
| 16:23.54 | Bor_Ed | 3.7M kernel-image-2.6.1-ben1_10.00.Custom_powerpc.deb <<- weeee, off to install and bomb the sys once again :) |
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| 16:35.38 | chris`work | I think this weekend I'll have to try out the kernel patches for MOL |
| 16:35.43 | chris`work | Looks interesting |
| 16:39.22 | netbrain | chris`work: i followed the directives on apple's webpages but nothing is changed. |
| 16:42.45 | pabl0 | uhm.. I'm looking a zImage for a IBM RS6000 B50, I found one, but that zImage only runs with initrd, anyone has that zImage WITHOUT initrd? |
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| 16:47.03 | beginner` | i had a problem at new install debian OS on PowerBook G4, when i create an image file (floppy) as documented on debian web site, but it cant boot from it, any ideas about it? |
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| 17:31.14 | Bor_Ed | suprisingly bombed :I |
| 17:33.39 | Bor_Ed | console framebuffer didn't sync and kernel didn't get up enough to be able to try to fix with ssh :(( |
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| 18:27.21 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.01 | comar | on my g4 without adb ;) I have this : pbbuttonsd ERROR: Can't open ADB device /dev/adb: no such device |
| 18:29.21 | comar | checking /dev/adb: exists, user writable [ ok ] |
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| 19:44.32 | fman | morning all |
| 19:44.39 | fman | any sendmail admins about |
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| 20:15.24 | qleak | any advice on accessing hfs+ partitions? |
| 20:15.37 | Curalton | get a recent benh kernel and just mount it :) |
| 20:16.26 | qleak | i've tried w/ 2.4.22-r4 |
| 20:16.27 | qleak | it seems my mount doesn't support -t hfsplus |
| 20:16.28 | qleak | should i try to update mount? |
| 20:16.50 | Curalton | rather try if modprobe hfsplus works |
| 20:17.07 | qleak | hfsplus shows on lsmod |
| 20:17.23 | Curalton | then it shold work |
| 20:17.37 | Curalton | mount -t hfsplux /dev/hda3 /osx e.g. |
| 20:18.08 | qleak | i'm not using debian.. just no answers on other channels |
| 20:18.19 | qleak | so i'm guessing i need update mount |
| 20:19.12 | Curalton | hmm, iirc this doesn't matter |
| 20:19.17 | Curalton | i just checks /proc/filesystems |
| 20:19.28 | Curalton | yea, do cat /proc/filesystems - hfsplus should be listed there |
| 20:20.02 | qleak | yup hfsplus is listed |
| 20:20.19 | Curalton | what error does mount report? |
| 20:20.30 | Curalton | and what distro btw? mdk, gentoo, yld? |
| 20:20.32 | qleak | the wrong fs type, bad option, bad sb |
| 20:20.39 | qleak | gentoo |
| 20:20.54 | qleak | kinda regretting that choice a little bit |
| 20:21.15 | qleak | i've used debian on my other machines for years |
| 20:21.20 | Curalton | hmm, what does fdisk say? |
| 20:21.27 | Curalton | maybe you just hit the wrong parition |
| 20:21.41 | qleak | well hmm.. this may make a difference |
| 20:21.48 | qleak | it is on a burned dvd |
| 20:22.04 | Curalton | and not an image which you mount via loopfs? |
| 20:22.24 | Curalton | i have no experient with hfsplus on ROMs, *should* be the same though |
| 20:22.44 | qleak | it does mount the goofy info in hfs correctly |
| 20:23.36 | sloopy | qleak: what distro? |
| 20:25.03 | Curalton | gentoo as he said |
| 20:25.28 | sloopy | Curalton: ww... i didnt realize he was in this channel too ;') |
| 20:26.10 | qleak | yeah you kinda threw me off there sloopy |
| 20:26.30 | Curalton | heh :) |
| 20:27.25 | sloopy | yeah i think HFS+ was flakey in .22 i use HFS+ regularly in 2.4.23 and now in 2.4.24 |
| 20:27.45 | Curalton | and now 2.6.1-benh-something :P |
| 20:28.18 | sloopy | no i dont use 2.6.x yet... i have tried 2.6.0 but there are problems with oldworld... |
| 20:29.21 | Curalton | ah, ok. |
| 20:29.30 | Curalton | works like a charm on my ibook2 g3 |
| 20:32.00 | qleak | thanks for your help curalton :-) |
| 20:32.11 | Curalton | :) n/p |
| 20:45.17 | zorton | well time to give the nubus compile another round |
| 20:47.49 | zorton | can anyone point me to a working hfsplus driver for the 2.6 series of kernels? |
| 20:48.13 | Bor_Ed | benh rsync has it |
| 20:50.43 | zorton | I was told by simronrvn not to use the hfsplus driver |
| 20:50.47 | zorton | has that situation changed? |
| 20:51.56 | Bor_Ed | read only should work somewhat well... tho writing makes same as writing to ntfs :) |
| 20:52.13 | Curalton | better than ntfs |
| 20:52.25 | zorton | well i'll just mount read only then |
| 20:52.25 | Curalton | hfsplus iirc is somewhat documented at apple.com |
| 21:01.16 | zorton | now i've just got to get the thing to mount with a uid the same as my normal user |
| 21:14.48 | zorton | anyone know how to get bk to clone a specific directory? |
| 21:17.11 | Bor_Ed | didn't penguinppc.org have some example ? (the kernel bk) |
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| 21:22.21 | zorton | well I rm'd my netfilter sources by mistake |
| 21:22.28 | zorton | was kinda stupid of me :) |
| 21:36.58 | zorton | well what's up with the vlc packages for sid? nobody compiling ppc packages anymore? |
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| 23:07.07 | spacecowboy | howdy all :) |
| 23:07.11 | spacecowboy | simonrvn :) |
| 23:07.15 | spacecowboy | Linux lappy 2.6.1-ben1 #1 Thu Jan 15 21:02:45 EST 2004 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 23:07.17 | spacecowboy | ;p |
| 23:07.35 | zorton | Linux vatican 2.6.1-ben1 #1 Thu Jan 15 12:41:37 AKST 2004 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 23:07.35 | zorton | :) |
| 23:07.48 | zorton | pb titanium |
| 23:08.07 | spacecowboy | same |
| 23:08.09 | spacecowboy | 1ghz |
| 23:08.13 | zorton | ouch |
| 23:08.15 | zorton | only 867 over herre |
| 23:08.22 | spacecowboy | :) its all good in the hood |
| 23:08.27 | zorton | I wonder if I could bump the processor up somehow |
| 23:08.29 | spacecowboy | i wouldn't |
| 23:08.30 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 23:08.36 | spacecowboy | 867 is fast enough |
| 23:08.45 | zorton | hows yoru battery life? |
| 23:08.54 | spacecowboy | ok |
| 23:08.59 | spacecowboy | not really worried about that |
| 23:09.01 | zorton | I get about 3 hours |
| 23:09.05 | spacecowboy | yea |
| 23:09.07 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 23:09.18 | spacecowboy | i run at 667 most of the time anyways |
| 23:09.42 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 23:09.52 | zorton | i'm pretty sure i'm using cpud or whateever it's called |
| 23:10.00 | spacecowboy | zorton do you use aim? |
| 23:10.05 | spacecowboy | aol protocol at least |
| 23:10.06 | zorton | nope |
| 23:10.10 | spacecowboy | hmm |
| 23:10.13 | zorton | irc works just fine for me |
| 23:10.16 | spacecowboy | yea |
| 23:10.20 | spacecowboy | but i am in high school |
| 23:10.20 | spacecowboy | so |
| 23:10.25 | spacecowboy | thats what everyone uses... |
| 23:10.40 | zorton | well grab a client |
| 23:10.49 | zorton | I would imagine there are some great unified clients nowdays |
| 23:10.56 | zorton | unless AOL started to crypt it's protocols |
| 23:11.09 | spacecowboy | i was looking for a console one |
| 23:11.13 | spacecowboy | i don't much like bitlbee anymore |
| 23:11.17 | spacecowboy | maybe i do |
| 23:11.20 | spacecowboy | who knows ;p |
| 23:11.20 | zorton | or better! get onto an ethernet segment and launch ettercap, see what the girl down the way REALLY thinks of you |
| 23:11.41 | spacecowboy | how the hell would i do that! |
| 23:11.46 | spacecowboy | thats awesome |
| 23:11.51 | spacecowboy | i have ettercap |
| 23:11.53 | spacecowboy | i just wish i knew how to use it |
| 23:11.55 | spacecowboy | OH! |
| 23:12.04 | spacecowboy | can i get my little brothers aim stuff? |
| 23:12.26 | zorton | :) |
| 23:12.36 | zorton | well just play around with it |
| 23:12.57 | zorton | ethereal will probaly work if yyyour on a shared topology netowkr, like a hub or something |
| 23:13.11 | zorton | ettercap does ARP spoofing so you can run it on switches and such |
| 23:13.51 | spacecowboy | noyce |
| 23:13.53 | spacecowboy | sounds cool |
| 23:14.03 | spacecowboy | not much time |
| 23:24.22 | anjalein_ | hi...need some help. i compiled my kernel 2.6.1 vanilla on my pb g4 and i got this error but i dont know which point in my .config is the wrong choice: arch/ppc/platforms/built-in.o(.init.text+0xd02): In function `core99_wake_up': |
| 23:25.16 | bighawk | what's in it? |
| 23:25.44 | anjalein_ | what do you mean? |
| 23:25.59 | bighawk | there's supposed to be a line after that with the actual error message |
| 23:26.02 | bighawk | this isn't the error yet. |
| 23:26.09 | anjalein_ | ok..moment |
| 23:26.28 | anjalein_ | this is the whole message |
| 23:26.30 | anjalein_ | arch/ppc/platforms/built-in.o(.init.text+0xd02): In function `core99_wake_up': |
| 23:26.33 | anjalein_ | : undefined reference to `pmac_ide_get_base' |
| 23:26.36 | anjalein_ | arch/ppc/platforms/built-in.o(.init.text+0xd0a): In function `core99_wake_up': |
| 23:26.40 | anjalein_ | : undefined reference to `pmac_ide_get_base' |
| 23:26.41 | anjalein_ | arch/ppc/platforms/built-in.o(.init.text+0xdf6): In function `core99_wake_up': |
| 23:26.44 | bighawk | ah, enable pmac ide |
| 23:26.44 | anjalein_ | : undefined reference to `pmac_ide_init_hwif_ports' |
| 23:26.49 | anjalein_ | arch/ppc/platforms/built-in.o(.init.text+0xe02): In function `core99_wake_up': |
| 23:26.49 | bighawk | dont paste all please! |
| 23:26.50 | anjalein_ | : undefined reference to `pmac_ide_init_hwif_ports' |
| 23:26.53 | anjalein_ | make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 |
| 23:26.55 | anjalein_ | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.1' |
| 23:26.57 | anjalein_ | make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 |
| 23:27.08 | anjalein_ | sorry..i dont know which line do you exacly need to help me |
| 23:27.44 | anjalein_ | where is pmac ide? there are many ide things in menuconfig |
| 23:28.34 | bighawk | somewhere at the bottom |
| 23:29.12 | bighawk | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC < taht stuff |
| 23:33.15 | anjalein_ | its enabled... |
| 23:34.07 | bighawk | dunno then, it should be something there |
| 23:34.11 | bighawk | dont know exactly where |
| 23:34.26 | bighawk | perhaps you should use a standard working config from somewhere, and continue from there on |
| 23:35.13 | chris` | make defconfig |
| 23:42.56 | anjalein_ | i did it ..then i continued from the defconfig kernel and got the error |
| 23:43.41 | anjalein_ | i enabled the wrong thing...or i changed it from kernel inside to module . |
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| 23:47.31 | anjalein_ | i think i found it....i changed ide from kernel inside to module....hmm dont know why i did this... |