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| 00:01.35 | dho | hello, I am looking for a good p2p app |
| 00:01.39 | dho | any sugestions? |
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| 00:10.21 | dho | anyone home? |
| 00:10.43 | sloopy | nope |
| 00:10.51 | dho | ah ok :| |
| 00:11.03 | dho | would you have a p2p app recomendation by chance |
| 00:11.08 | dho | im not gunna dl music so you know |
| 00:11.25 | sloopy | i dunno... dont use them... |
| 00:11.31 | dho | ah ok |
| 00:11.55 | dho | im getting limewire now, but in all other places i have used it, it was utter crap |
| 00:11.55 | sloopy | i only use p2p for getting warez, which i dont need often..,. |
| 00:12.35 | sloopy | what are you looking for anywho? |
| 00:13.00 | dho | just one to have around in case i want some porn :\ |
| 00:13.21 | sloopy | ahhh i dont need pr0n... |
| 00:14.19 | dho | damn lw is slow |
| 00:14.32 | dho | i entered in limewire 5 mins ago |
| 00:14.39 | dho | text is still scrolling in the shell |
| 00:14.47 | dho | hasnt opened an x window yet |
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| 00:55.36 | lex | an yone here using evo in sid? |
| 00:55.44 | lex | Does it crash as much for you as for me? |
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| 01:21.02 | dho | sorry lex im on unstable |
| 01:23.05 | dho | i am trying to mount a fs on my ipod and have no idea hwere to look |
| 01:23.23 | dho | any ideas |
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| 17:38.51 | *** topic/#debianppc is Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test || Install Debian on new (2003) PowerMacs with XFS: http://penguinppc.org/~eb/files/XFS-debian-README.txt || yabon/dri-trunk-sid/ || rsync -avz source.mvista.com::linuxppc-2.5-benh /<your_dir> or rsync.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de::linuxppc-2.5-benh - currently 2.6.2-rc1-ben1 |
| 17:42.09 | ilmari | Bor_Ed: i'm connecting it to an old-fashioned serial terminal (IBM InfoWindowII 3153), not another computer. shouldn't I then use a straight serial cable, no a null-modem cable? |
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| 17:50.29 | Bor_Ed | true |
| 18:03.58 | ilmari | looks like I need the serial splitter cable |
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| 18:17.41 | netman2 | hi |
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| 18:21.59 | superbenk | hello |
| 18:22.02 | superbenk | I'm trying to install Debian on a PowerMac 7500... it refuses the rescue floppy... how do I get started? |
| 18:24.02 | Bor_Ed | write new floppies untiil it reads the floppy (macs are _picky_ about floppies) |
| 18:24.12 | superbenk | ok |
| 18:25.08 | superbenk | I'm creating the disks in linux... is there anything I should do to "prepare" them before using dd to transfer the image? |
| 18:25.30 | Bor_Ed | naa |
| 18:25.46 | Bor_Ed | I had to use about 12 floppies before I got rescue to read |
| 18:25.55 | superbenk | damn! |
| 18:25.55 | Bor_Ed | wrote on linux/x86 |
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| 18:35.18 | superbenk | this is crazy... I'm on disk 5 |
| 18:35.39 | simonrvn | why is because those floppies aren't being read from a driver interface, but very low level, like hardware, so they have to be near perfect |
| 18:35.47 | simonrvn | :/ |
| 18:36.07 | superbenk | you mean the media itself? |
| 18:36.24 | simonrvn | usually it's driver -> OF -> floppy, but now it's OF -> flopy |
| 18:36.29 | simonrvn | +p |
| 18:37.01 | superbenk | OF? |
| 18:37.04 | simonrvn | uh, flip OF and driver in my first thing :) |
| 18:37.33 | superbenk | OpenFirmware? |
| 18:37.37 | simonrvn | openfirmware. is the same as a BIOS in an x86. like openboot (same specs, more are less as openboot) |
| 18:38.07 | superbenk | does my PowerMac 7500 have that? is it accessible by me? |
| 18:38.11 | simonrvn | yes |
| 18:38.19 | superbenk | how? |
| 18:38.42 | superbenk | also, why can't these disks even be read from within macos (8.1)? |
| 18:38.44 | simonrvn | from linux, you use nvsetenv to set up the machine so it stop at openfirmware |
| 18:38.55 | simonrvn | the linux floppies? |
| 18:38.59 | superbenk | yes |
| 18:39.15 | simonrvn | cuz they don't have a pc or mac formatting |
| 18:39.25 | simonrvn | fat23 or hfs IOW |
| 18:39.25 | superbenk | aha... duh:) |
| 18:39.27 | simonrvn | 32 |
| 18:39.51 | superbenk | I'm about ready to throw this mac out the window... it was free, but it's a real PITA! |
| 18:39.51 | simonrvn | well, mock os reads fat16 too |
| 18:40.11 | simonrvn | nah, that's minor shit, the floppy issue |
| 18:40.23 | simonrvn | probably the worst you'll see |
| 18:40.44 | superbenk | well, I was really excited to try MacOS, but I don't have media and what's on here is missing a bunch of stuff so nothing works |
| 18:41.09 | simonrvn | i'd suggest adding this bs=512 conv=sync to your dd command |
| 18:41.29 | superbenk | ah... I'm using bs=1024 (as suggested on the debian docs) |
| 18:41.35 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 18:41.42 | superbenk | should I try 512? |
| 18:41.44 | simonrvn | that's ok too |
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| 18:44.30 | superbenk | simonrvn: you run debian on a powermac (oldworld?) |
| 18:44.37 | simonrvn | yes |
| 18:44.48 | superbenk | what's your opinion? and which one? |
| 18:44.58 | superbenk | ARG!!! |
| 18:45.01 | simonrvn | 7500 for a while, then that got turned into macos client, and this is an 8500 |
| 18:45.17 | superbenk | 7500 with the 601/100 CPU? |
| 18:45.33 | simonrvn | at first yes, then i upgraded it to a 604e/185 |
| 18:45.53 | simonrvn | nice cpu for its time, certainly |
| 18:46.04 | superbenk | this is a 601/100 with 104MB RAM & 2MB VRAM |
| 18:46.10 | simonrvn | still is - slow as fuck compared to a g3, but still decent |
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| 18:46.13 | jpablo | hi |
| 18:46.33 | superbenk | I had to take the L2 cache out cause it seems to be messed up, but runs fine without it |
| 18:46.35 | jpablo | is the debian xfree supposed to work on a ibook g3 with a radeon 7500 ? |
| 18:46.46 | simonrvn | that's alright. the more ram you give that ppc cpu, the more it'll be happy. ppcs tend to run slower the less ram they have |
| 18:46.48 | superbenk | I've seen G4's for the 7500 (800Mhz) |
| 18:46.53 | simonrvn | yup |
| 18:47.06 | simonrvn | jpablo: that's what i hear |
| 18:47.06 | superbenk | would be fun if I had $350 to spend |
| 18:47.28 | simonrvn | i have a g3/266, but i need a ZIF card for it (still) |
| 18:47.28 | jpablo | simonrvn: i having problems, just a black screen after startx, that nevers goes away. |
| 18:47.42 | simonrvn | what kernel? |
| 18:47.54 | jpablo | simonrvn: last from benh rsync. |
| 18:48.07 | simonrvn | which one? 2.6, or 2.4? |
| 18:48.10 | jpablo | 2.4 |
| 18:48.25 | simonrvn | try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again |
| 18:49.04 | simonrvn | superbenk: re-download of the images is quite often a working solution too |
| 18:49.06 | jpablo | simonrvn: well i configured it with that, then i copied a dude's config that is supposed to work with my laptop. |
| 18:49.16 | superbenk | simonrvn: ok... will try that too |
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| 18:50.07 | simonrvn | jpablo: cp that to a backup, and re-do it |
| 18:50.14 | superbenk | simonrvn: I'm getting the powermac disks... I assume this is correct and I don't want the prep ones right? |
| 18:50.21 | simonrvn | yup |
| 18:50.43 | superbenk | simonrvn: can I run MOL on this 7500 you think? |
| 18:50.55 | simonrvn | if you have macos still there, you can try burning them in macos, using disk copy 6.3.3 |
| 18:50.58 | simonrvn | superbenk: for sure |
| 18:51.22 | superbenk | I can't install disk copy... MacOS is very crippled |
| 18:51.30 | simonrvn | nods |
| 18:51.46 | superbenk | I'm trying desparately to get some media |
| 18:52.06 | superbenk | simonrvn: btw, if I get an ISO of macos and burn it from within linux, will it boot on the 7500? |
| 18:53.56 | simonrvn | it should |
| 18:54.53 | simonrvn | use mkisofs and it should work. it's built to handle hybrid isos |
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| 18:58.25 | superbenk | I think I've been doing something stupid |
| 18:58.39 | superbenk | just read that the "rescue.bin cannot be booted on oldworld macs" |
| 18:58.52 | superbenk | I needed the boot-floppy-hfs.img apparently(?) |
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| 19:02.42 | superbenk | simonrvn: 7500 faster than a SS20? |
| 19:03.10 | Bor_Ed | you need the boot-floppy too |
| 19:03.14 | superbenk | woot!! I'm booting!!! |
| 19:03.37 | Bor_Ed | hmm, doesn't IIci have PMMU ?? |
| 19:03.41 | superbenk | Bor_Ed: I was trying to boot from the rescue.bin disk... that doesn't work |
| 19:03.45 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 19:05.24 | superbenk | I want a job |
| 19:09.09 | simonrvn | boothfs.img, then root.bin |
| 19:09.47 | simonrvn | superbenk: i have no cluie. never seen an SS20, only an SS10, and nothing beyond openboot and its PROM password stuff |
| 19:10.34 | superbenk | simonrvn: heh, my mistake... you hang in #ldap, not #solaris :) |
| 19:10.50 | simonrvn | :) |
| 19:11.51 | simonrvn | BBIALW |
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| 19:14.31 | superbenk | sloopy: :) |
| 19:14.44 | superbenk | another familiar.... er... nick |
| 19:15.11 | sloopy | greetings superbenk |
| 19:15.47 | superbenk | sloopy: got fed up with the crippled MacOS... going the way of Debian :) |
| 19:16.48 | sloopy | ahhh... yeah debian is one of only two distros i would run on ppc |
| 19:17.01 | superbenk | sloopy: other is YLD? |
| 19:17.21 | sloopy | superbenk: no, the other is YDL ;'P |
| 19:17.27 | chris`work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.34 | superbenk | what about suse, gentoo, mdk, rh, etc? |
| 19:17.40 | sloopy | superbenk: but we dont mention that here ;') |
| 19:18.00 | superbenk | my mistake (on both mentioning and mis-spelling) |
| 19:18.19 | sloopy | i would NEVER use RH... it is too 'ickey' ;'D |
| 19:18.53 | superbenk | agreed, but it *does* work, no? |
| 19:19.37 | sloopy | it is a joke.... YDL is based on RH... in some places it actually will say you are running RH |
| 19:19.46 | superbenk | aha |
| 19:20.13 | superbenk | well, debian is my friend (sometimes) :) |
| 19:20.53 | sloopy | yeah, it was my friend for many years... |
| 19:21.52 | superbenk | I was a bit dissappointed NetBSD or FreeBSD won't install on my decrepit mac |
| 19:22.00 | superbenk | well, without an upgraded CPU that is |
| 19:22.22 | superbenk | I've never used a *BSD and was anxious to try now that I had a spare machine |
| 19:22.24 | sloopy | 7500 w/601-100Mhz correct? |
| 19:22.29 | superbenk | correct |
| 19:22.49 | superbenk | *BSD requires 604 |
| 19:22.59 | sloopy | linux is 'better' :') |
| 19:23.06 | superbenk | hehe |
| 19:23.16 | superbenk | well, at least I know linux |
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| 19:33.50 | superbenk | I can't get any kind of network connection... the link is up and I can receive a configuration from DHCP, but I can't ping IP's or domains |
| 19:34.05 | superbenk | what am I missing? |
| 19:35.10 | superbenk | I'm currently in a shell in the Debian install just prior to installing the base system (it can't get the base system from FTP) |
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| 19:35.34 | sloopy | check your routing table... |
| 19:35.45 | superbenk | routing table looks fine |
| 19:35.54 | superbenk | I can't ping the mac from another machine either |
| 19:36.16 | sloopy | how is it hooked up to the network? |
| 19:36.27 | superbenk | cat-5 to a 10/100 switch |
| 19:36.37 | vividan | has anyone been able to get pmud working with the stock 2.6 kernel? |
| 19:36.43 | superbenk | like I said, it got DHCP info and configured that just fine |
| 19:37.00 | sloopy | hmmm... |
| 19:37.42 | vividan | whats the problem? |
| 19:37.42 | sloopy | hmmm can it ping itself? |
| 19:38.01 | superbenk | sloopy: yes |
| 19:38.11 | superbenk | either 127.0.0.1 or it's own IP |
| 19:38.14 | superbenk | both work |
| 19:38.46 | sloopy | hmmm odd... only thing left is something is wrong with the routing table... |
| 19:39.13 | superbenk | route prints a perfect routing table |
| 19:39.28 | sloopy | perfect? :') |
| 19:39.41 | superbenk | well, just as perfect as any other machine I have :) |
| 19:42.02 | sloopy | hmmm... drop back 20 and punt? |
| 19:42.25 | superbenk | lol |
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| 19:55.04 | Bor_Ed | got block ## expected block XX ? |
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| 20:00.08 | sloopy | Bor_Ed: i went to make a boot floppy to install A/UX and i dont have a floppy that actually works :'/ |
| 20:01.07 | sloopy | cool... my ftp speed is going up! :') |
| 20:02.21 | sloopy | finally its not running so slow... now it is at 378.88KB/sec, was at 372.64KB/sec |
| 20:03.01 | Bor_Ed | sloopy, get boot floppy from http://www.kearney.net/~mhoffman/basiliskII/system753_tutorial/linux/ (for basilisk) |
| 20:03.03 | sloopy | damn it slowed down... now at 376.62 |
| 20:03.10 | Bor_Ed | real deal still needs work |
| 20:03.27 | sloopy | Bor_Ed: its not the image... it is the actuall disks i have... |
| 20:03.34 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 20:03.42 | Bor_Ed | you can't boot the floppy ? |
| 20:04.02 | Bor_Ed | (did same at me on IIci) |
| 20:04.12 | sloopy | no i cant write the floppy... the disk gets errors... |
| 20:04.23 | Bor_Ed | dd another |
| 20:04.36 | Bor_Ed | btw, the installer runs from cd inside mockos 7.x |
| 20:04.49 | sloopy | i am doing it in mac os... and i tried 5 disks... |
| 20:04.53 | Bor_Ed | (got no pmmu error on basilisk) |
| 20:05.07 | sloopy | really? then i dont need the floppy... |
| 20:05.30 | sloopy | i have a IIci here just wanting A/UX :') |
| 20:05.57 | Bor_Ed | well the install cd image starts on mockos at least on emu :P |
| 20:06.16 | Bor_Ed | go figure :P |
| 20:06.49 | Bor_Ed | I need to setup atalkd to be able to do the install for my IIci (no cd drive in that) |
| 20:07.02 | sloopy | well then put one on it... |
| 20:07.27 | Bor_Ed | only scsi cd that's here is inside this 7200... and it's about dead |
| 20:07.48 | sloopy | hmmm i have a stack of them.... 2x but work fine... |
| 20:07.48 | Bor_Ed | but I can (with luck) get atalkd and loopback the aux install iso :P |
| 20:09.38 | sloopy | now yer using 'linux' logic... be careful cause you need to use 'apple' logic... which is in some regards related to 'macroshaft' logic.... |
| 20:10.00 | Bor_Ed | just picked from install do |
| 20:10.02 | Bor_Ed | doc |
| 20:10.18 | Bor_Ed | buggr requires apple tcp/opentransport disabled |
| 20:25.09 | demon | well, you can do appletalk on the linux side |
| 20:25.44 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 20:25.53 | Bor_Ed | used to have it up to get games to buggr IIci |
| 20:26.10 | Bor_Ed | and now would need to get up to get stuff to lc475 |
| 20:29.52 | sloopy | tonight will be fun... installing linux on a x86 box... |
| 20:30.03 | superbenk | heh |
| 20:30.08 | Bor_Ed | hmm |
| 20:30.21 | Bor_Ed | that's no fun... x86 is dead easy to get running :I |
| 20:31.07 | superbenk | it will give your hair a chance to grow back ;) |
| 20:31.21 | Bor_Ed | aww, right |
| 20:32.55 | Bor_Ed | umm, I have '030+'882 set up and still get 'no pmmu' ... wtf ? |
| 20:35.40 | Bor_Ed | route, mask or resolv ? |
| 20:36.58 | superbenk | yes |
| 20:37.29 | superbenk | I can get DHCP info, but I can't connect to anything either LAN or Internet via IP or domains |
| 20:39.50 | superbenk | oh ya, and I can't ping the mac from another machine and I do have a link |
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| 21:20.36 | superbenk | how do I eject a floppy on a base debian install? |
| 21:21.12 | Bor_Ed | it'll puke it on boot |
| 21:21.27 | superbenk | Bor_Ed: no way to eject before a reboot? |
| 21:21.38 | Bor_Ed | eject command isn't included on base |
| 21:21.47 | superbenk | nope |
| 21:21.54 | superbenk | so I'm screwed? :) |
| 21:21.56 | Bor_Ed | you can try to 'fish' the floppy out with paperclip tho |
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| 21:22.03 | superbenk | ok |
| 21:22.07 | Bor_Ed | (the small hole under floppy drive) |
| 21:22.22 | mick_laptop | superbenk: in that mac, use a paperclip |
| 21:22.40 | mick_laptop | that is the _only_ way - with a 7500 |
| 21:22.41 | superbenk | mick_laptop: I didn't get your email correct... can you send it to me in query? |
| 21:22.56 | superbenk | mick_laptop: the eject command won't work on a 7500? |
| 21:23.02 | mick_laptop | i never sent an e-mail |
| 21:23.15 | mick_laptop | there is an "eject button?" |
| 21:23.27 | mick_laptop | there is only a small hole near the floppy |
| 21:23.35 | mick_laptop | the other button is for the cdrom |
| 21:23.44 | arcady | and behind that hole, on the actual drive is an eject button |
| 21:23.54 | arcady | you just can't normally get to it |
| 21:23.57 | superbenk | mick_laptop: no, you wanted me to email you something |
| 21:24.14 | mick_laptop | you need to take it appart and that is a bitch if you've never done it |
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| 21:24.40 | mick_laptop | your name, ppc model, and your e-mail |
| 21:24.46 | Joersch | hi all |
| 21:25.04 | mick_laptop | i'll keep you up to date on http://ppcconfdb.sf.net when we get a 7500 |
| 21:25.21 | mick_laptop | like i said, still working on a database of all PPCs first |
| 21:25.31 | superbenk | no no, there is no eject "button", I asked if their is an eject *command* to eject the floppy |
| 21:26.02 | mick_laptop | since everymac.com didn't want to give us a copy of their database, we gotta get the info from Apple's info website |
| 21:26.05 | sloopy | mick_laptop: why you making a database of all ppc? |
| 21:26.08 | mick_laptop | by _hand_ |
| 21:27.14 | mick_laptop | sloopy: it is a database of all PPC configurations |
| 21:27.30 | mick_laptop | its still relitively young |
| 21:27.43 | mick_laptop | i'll hype it when the schema is completed ;) |
| 21:27.59 | sloopy | why are you making it? |
| 21:28.26 | mick_laptop | have you setup an old world ppc? |
| 21:28.51 | sloopy | lol... 'once or twice'... |
| 21:28.53 | mick_laptop | it is easy to do this with PPCs (not so with x86) |
| 21:29.16 | mick_laptop | setting up an old world ppc sucks (to say the least) |
| 21:29.27 | sloopy | it does? how so? |
| 21:29.33 | Bor_Ed | umm |
| 21:29.38 | Bor_Ed | haven't noticed such :o |
| 21:29.57 | mick_laptop | this is a repository of configurations |
| 21:30.09 | Bor_Ed | gentoo configurations ... |
| 21:30.23 | mick_laptop | not tgrue |
| 21:30.35 | Bor_Ed | that 'distro' name gets at least me to vomit |
| 21:30.40 | mick_laptop | jeedo is a gentoo user, so he wanted that |
| 21:30.52 | mick_laptop | don't worry about that |
| 21:31.00 | Bor_Ed | I won't |
| 21:31.17 | mick_laptop | it is still young and like i said, i'll let everyone know when its ready |
| 21:31.19 | mick_laptop | ;) |
| 21:31.28 | mick_laptop | its still pre-alpha |
| 21:31.31 | sloopy | configurations of? x? |
| 21:31.43 | mick_laptop | it was a mergure of 2 projects actually |
| 21:31.54 | mick_laptop | bootloader, X, etc.... |
| 21:32.11 | mick_laptop | some ppcs are hard to see what it is |
| 21:32.28 | mick_laptop | for instance, my old iMac could have been one of 5 different iMacs |
| 21:32.29 | superbenk | I have net! |
| 21:32.43 | Bor_Ed | umm, this says on kernel that this is 7300... tho mobo says 7200 |
| 21:32.45 | mick_laptop | it will be easier to tell, when this is up |
| 21:33.13 | sloopy | Bor_Ed: they are pretty much the same... |
| 21:33.17 | Bor_Ed | I recall that sourdough or simonrvn has already similar |
| 21:33.27 | sloopy | mick_laptop: i did something similar in '01 |
| 21:33.40 | mick_laptop | also, it is beiong integrated into the gentoo install, hardware info will be sent over (via a web service) to add to the database when new Macs hit the market |
| 21:33.41 | sloopy | but mine would run on the machine and tell you... |
| 21:33.57 | mick_laptop | exactly |
| 21:34.25 | mick_laptop | i'm working on the PHP/MySQL/XML side while Jeedo is working on the part that is similar to what you said |
| 21:35.05 | mick_laptop | anyhow, i gotta get back to the programming |
| 21:35.35 | mick_laptop | i'll let ya all know when the schema is up and ready, and people can contribute their configurations |
| 21:35.48 | mick_laptop | later all |
| 21:36.06 | superbenk | is there a way to get better than 640x480 with a PC monitor? |
| 21:36.24 | Bor_Ed | I run 800x600 here on 7200 fbdev |
| 21:36.39 | Bor_Ed | (peecee monitor with adapter) |
| 21:36.48 | superbenk | special adapter? |
| 21:36.56 | Bor_Ed | 4 eur cheapo |
| 21:37.04 | superbenk | switches on it? |
| 21:37.09 | Bor_Ed | nooo :) |
| 21:37.16 | superbenk | cool... mine neither |
| 21:37.33 | Bor_Ed | just setup generic vga at 800x600 for monitor |
| 21:37.38 | LarstiQ | luther: ok, we're at the party now, got a kernel ready? :) |
| 21:37.38 | superbenk | ok |
| 21:42.05 | luther | LarstiQ: can you catch a DCC ? |
| 21:42.13 | LarstiQ | I think so |
| 21:43.20 | luther | LarstiQ: you need mol too ? |
| 21:43.34 | LarstiQ | Nah, just linux for now :) |
| 21:44.57 | luther | Cool, since i didn't build MOL modules yet. My peg2 is mostly used trough ssh as build box, since it shares monitor with my x86 box i use for mail and irc and stuff. |
| 21:45.40 | Bor_Ed | not running MOS on peggy ?-p |
| 21:46.02 | luther | Bor_Ed: i have it on peg1, which my wife now has on her desk. |
| 21:46.09 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 21:46.18 | Bor_Ed | ok |
| 21:46.25 | luther | Bor_Ed: but my peg2 is a linux kernel/d-i/whatever build box. |
| 21:46.40 | Bor_Ed | I see |
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| 21:46.55 | luther | And i am not entirely sure MOL would like my old scsi CDROM at installation time. |
| 21:47.11 | LarstiQ | luther: thanks for the kernel |
| 21:47.18 | LarstiQ | now we'll have to burn a new image or so |
| 21:47.24 | luther | No problem. |
| 21:47.48 | luther | I also have some drm modules for use with Michel's dri-trunk X, but DRI seems hosed anyway. |
| 21:47.58 | luther | LarstiQ: what graphic card do you have in the box ? |
| 21:48.06 | LarstiQ | luther: radeon 9200 |
| 21:48.09 | luther | LarstiQ: and what is the name of the owner of the Peg2. |
| 21:48.34 | LarstiQ | luther: Alwin |
| 21:48.44 | luther | LarstiQ: try the dri-trunk-sid X server maybe, but use the radeon driver (not the ati wrapper, since it doesn't know about Radeon 9200). |
| 21:48.49 | luther | LarstiQ: ok, cool. |
| 21:51.06 | luther | LarstiQ: actually, if you could try both the experimental X and the dri-trunk-sid one, i would like to know if for you there is also a rather slow launch time with the experimental version (like 20s for 8-10s on the dri-trunk one). |
| 21:51.12 | luther | LarstiQ: you have the G3 model ? |
| 21:53.39 | LarstiQ | luther: yes |
| 21:54.59 | luther | what harddisk do you have ? And could you send me the result of running hdparm -tT on it ? |
| 22:00.51 | luther | LarstiQ: hdparm disk result, with two almost same seagate drivers, varry greatly between peg1 and peg2. I would like to know which part of that is due to G4/1Ghz over G3/600MHz, and which part is due to superior northbridge infrastructure. |
| 22:01.08 | luther | LarstiQ: BTW, the kernel i sent you still has the >256Mo of ram bug. |
| 22:05.52 | LarstiQ | we have 256 mb |
| 22:06.26 | luther | Ok, i have to leave now, please tell me how it went, or maybe email me a report of your experience ? |
| 22:08.02 | LarstiQ | luther: aye |