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| 01:01.12 | inquis | is it possible to enable the frontal white light of iBook G4 on Debian in sleep mode, as happens on MacOS X ? |
| 01:02.51 | demon | um, I don't think the iBook G4 will sleep yet in Linux |
| 01:03.22 | demon | because ATI hasn't provided ben herrenschmidt the info to support sleep/wake with the display controller used in that model |
| 01:04.18 | inquis | of course I know, but I'd like to know if it is possible to enable the light in other ways... actually by default is switch when the hard disk is loading data |
| 01:05.39 | demon | I don't think there's a way to control it from userspace, no... I know it can be done from kernel space (that's how benh's hack to flash the suspend light on disk access works)... |
| 01:08.17 | inquis | ok, thanks for information. do you think someday it could be controlled in userspace either in kernel space by a lkm? |
| 01:12.08 | fluor- | talking about kernels, is anyone running an encrypted fs around here? |
| 01:12.48 | fluor- | each time I look around the crypto fs issue, I really get confused, because of all those differents crypto implementations: cryptoloop, loop-aes, kerneli... |
| 01:12.59 | demon | well, it wouldn't be hard... you could probably do it by digging around in the pmac ide driver, finding the code that turns the LED on and off, adding the code to make a /proc file that you can echo "0" or "1" to to flip it off and on... it wouldn't be too big a deal, rally |
| 01:13.27 | demon | er, really |
| 01:13.42 | inquis | I will try in some days |
| 01:17.41 | denken | ok wtf... mol-modules-2.4.22-powerpc in testing has no actual .o files in it :P |
| 01:17.51 | denken | just a changelog and some empty directories... |
| 01:18.11 | demon | heh. nice. |
| 01:18.34 | denken | i was wondering why i couldnt insmod sheep and so forth... |
| 01:21.08 | PowerBook3400 | can x run with just a meg video ram? |
| 01:21.53 | demon | yeah... what's the display size? if it's 800x600, you'll probably be confined to 15 or 16 bit color |
| 01:22.13 | PowerBook3400 | 16 |
| 01:22.17 | demon | often older apple gear only worked right in 15-bit color depth, 16 bit would just blow up |
| 01:22.31 | PowerBook3400 | the prob is... all i get is a black screen |
| 01:23.00 | PowerBook3400 | i even tried at at 8 bit |
| 01:23.04 | demon | because since macos couldn't deal with non-uniform bitfield sizes, they didn't set up the hardware to deal with those modes, because they figured "what else is anyone really gonna run on this?" |
| 01:23.06 | PowerBook3400 | still just black screen |
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| 01:23.33 | demon | can you ssh into it from another machine, and watch what it's doing that way? |
| 01:24.08 | PowerBook3400 | during install i dissabled the ssh server |
| 01:24.50 | demon | you're installing woody, right? |
| 01:24.57 | PowerBook3400 | yeah |
| 01:24.59 | PowerBook3400 | it's installed |
| 01:25.07 | PowerBook3400 | just x that's messed up i think |
| 01:26.24 | PowerBook3400 | think i should try 15 bit? |
| 01:26.51 | demon | hm... according to a site I just found, you have to use fbdev if you're using XFree <= 4.2.x |
| 01:27.03 | demon | you can use the chips driver only with XFree 4.3.x |
| 01:27.14 | demon | if you upgrade to unstable, you could do that |
| 01:27.34 | demon | http://www.rockhopper.dk/linux/powerbook3400/powerbook3400.html#chap11 |
| 01:27.50 | PowerBook3400 | i thought woody came with 4.3.... |
| 01:27.57 | PowerBook3400 | i did the internet install |
| 01:28.16 | demon | nope, 4.3.0.1 just recently made its way into sid |
| 01:28.41 | PowerBook3400 | so if i try a different driver it should work? |
| 01:29.21 | demon | try using the fbdev driver instead |
| 01:29.26 | demon | it'll be slower, but it'll work |
| 01:29.32 | PowerBook3400 | k |
| 01:30.36 | PowerBook3400 | any idea how much slower? |
| 01:31.00 | demon | dunno, never used a 3400... |
| 01:31.15 | demon | and I dunno how accelerated the XFree chips&tech driver is |
| 01:31.46 | PowerBook3400 | so basically i should upgrade to 4.3? |
| 01:31.54 | PowerBook3400 | when i get everything working |
| 01:32.43 | demon | well, to use the 4.3 packages, unless someone has backport packages from sid (probably will be listed on www.apt-get.org if there are), you would have to move to sid |
| 01:35.09 | PowerBook3400 | OMG I LOVE YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH |
| 01:36.19 | PowerBook3400 | poor KDE |
| 01:37.38 | demon | yeah, KDE will probably struggle muchly |
| 01:38.12 | PowerBook3400 | it's colors are all warped |
| 01:38.25 | PowerBook3400 | and it's only version 2.2.2 |
| 01:38.33 | demon | using 8-bit color? |
| 01:38.40 | PowerBook3400 | but i only need to to download and configure Enlightenment |
| 01:38.44 | PowerBook3400 | no |
| 01:38.49 | PowerBook3400 | i told it to use 16 |
| 01:39.31 | demon | if the colors look all fucko, it's probably because of what I mentioned before about 15 vs. 16 bit depth on apple systems |
| 01:39.51 | PowerBook3400 | ahh |
| 01:40.13 | demon | apple never bothered supported 16-bit depth in most of their hardware, because their os couldn't handle the sizes of the bitfields for red, green and blue not being of equal size |
| 01:40.41 | demon | therefore they decided "why implement it in hardware? not like anyone's going to run anything else on it..." |
| 01:40.51 | PowerBook3400 | lol |
| 01:40.54 | demon | little did they know then |
| 01:42.10 | fluor- | a hint of which crypto fs implementation to run, anyone? |
| 01:42.14 | fluor- | s/of/on |
| 01:43.26 | PowerBook3400 | i'm gonna try the 15 bit then |
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| 01:45.43 | PowerBook3400 | is there a commant stop completely stop x? |
| 01:46.10 | PowerBook3400 | hehe.. n/m i just do init 1 |
| 01:48.03 | demon | um... init 1? |
| 01:48.12 | demon | you should be able to just choose "logout" from the kde menu |
| 01:48.20 | demon | or just press ctrl-alt-bksp |
| 01:48.26 | PowerBook3400 | yeah but it keeps me in x |
| 01:48.56 | PowerBook3400 | yeah |
| 01:49.01 | PowerBook3400 | 15 bit runs much better |
| 01:49.15 | demon | heh. sho' nuff. |
| 01:49.18 | PowerBook3400 | i do.. it automatically restarts x :-P |
| 01:49.37 | PowerBook3400 | i'm just glad it's running |
| 01:49.44 | demon | oh... you must be using gdm, or xdm or something like that? |
| 01:49.51 | PowerBook3400 | i don't even care that the sound server doesn't work |
| 01:49.52 | PowerBook3400 | lol |
| 01:50.07 | demon | heh... um, 'modprobe dmasound_pmac' ? |
| 01:50.21 | demon | (as root, of course) |
| 01:50.37 | PowerBook3400 | nah... i just got some sound server error on start up each time |
| 01:51.14 | demon | maybe the user you're logging in as isn't a member of the 'audio' group? |
| 01:51.25 | demon | (might be 'sound' group in woody, I forget) |
| 01:52.05 | PowerBook3400 | i'm logging in as root |
| 01:54.54 | PowerBook3400 | Error While initalizing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) |
| 01:55.24 | demon | you need to load the sound driver then |
| 01:55.30 | demon | 'modprobe dmasound_pmac' |
| 01:55.43 | PowerBook3400 | ??? |
| 01:55.56 | demon | well, if you want sound to work anyway |
| 01:56.26 | PowerBook3400 | i'm a newbie.. so many of the things i'm told mean nothing to me |
| 01:57.55 | demon | just run that command at a prompt as root |
| 01:58.05 | demon | and it'll load the sound driver |
| 01:58.09 | PowerBook3400 | ah |
| 01:58.12 | PowerBook3400 | thanx |
| 01:59.03 | PowerBook3400 | Can't locate module |
| 01:59.18 | demon | um... |
| 01:59.26 | demon | try 'modprobe dmasound_awacs' |
| 01:59.45 | PowerBook3400 | same thing |
| 02:00.00 | PowerBook3400 | that's ok |
| 02:00.01 | demon | huh... what kernel are you using? |
| 02:00.11 | PowerBook3400 | whatever came with woody |
| 02:00.43 | PowerBook3400 | is there a command to find the kernel version? |
| 02:04.07 | demon | uname -r |
| 02:04.12 | demon | that'll show you the version |
| 02:06.38 | PowerBook3400 | aww crap |
| 02:06.51 | PowerBook3400 | 2.2.20 |
| 02:07.00 | PowerBook3400 | wait |
| 02:07.10 | PowerBook3400 | is that controlled by bootx? |
| 02:07.59 | demon | well, bootx loads kernels from the MacOS side, so you'd have to have the kernel on your HFS/HFS+ partition |
| 02:09.05 | PowerBook3400 | well there are 2 kernels on my Mac... there was vmlinux and vmlinux 2.4, and it's been loading from vmlinux |
| 02:09.47 | demon | look in /lib/modules, and see what you have modules for |
| 02:10.09 | PowerBook3400 | i got a bigger problem... i wanted 2.4 |
| 02:13.16 | PowerBook3400 | how do i plug in a different kernel |
| 02:14.20 | PowerBook3400 | i'll be happy with 2.4 but if you think 2.6 would go in and not be too much of a hassel |
| 02:24.34 | bddebian | PowerBook3400: You using BootX? |
| 02:24.48 | PowerBook3400 | yeah |
| 02:25.24 | bddebian | The easiest way is to just rename your files in the kernels folder in MockOS. |
| 02:25.56 | PowerBook3400 | ??? |
| 02:26.47 | bddebian | What files did you move into your Kernels folder in MockOS? |
| 02:27.31 | PowerBook3400 | ummmm |
| 02:27.37 | PowerBook3400 | i don't remember off hand |