| 00:00.00 | mns | yup .. thats good page to start from .. :-) |
| 00:00.16 | necro2607 | :) |
| 00:01.10 | mns | all right i am off to play with apache and serving mpegs .. |
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| 00:08.06 | necro2607 | now downloading the Woody PPC images, wheee |
| 00:08.19 | necro2607 | it'll be so nice to have a CD drive to install with |
| 00:08.34 | necro2607 | I've installed linux on so many PCs that didn't have a CD drive (and I don't have any extra CD drives either) |
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| 00:09.22 | Virtudude | anyone using the madwifi drivers on ppc? |
| 00:14.03 | demon | hehe |
| 00:14.09 | demon | there's always netbooting... |
| 00:14.44 | demon | but you have to have tftpd and either bootpd or (for newworlds other than the g3 blue&white) a specially hacked dhcpd... |
| 00:15.29 | necro2607 | ahh yeah |
| 00:16.48 | demon | since apple decided that they needed their own dhcp protocol variant to make sure it was hard for anyone else to netboot _their_ machines... |
| 00:27.29 | necro2607 | haha |
| 00:27.37 | necro2607 | yeah Apple seems to have done that pretty often.. |
| 00:28.03 | necro2607 | there was something else recently that really annoyed me that they did, when there was a perfectly usable standard already existant.. I forget what it is now |
| 00:29.38 | demon | well, it's typical apple... not all that different from microsoft tactics |
| 00:31.13 | necro2607 | yeah, MS is probably worse |
| 00:31.15 | necro2607 | ohh yeah that stupid AAC format! |
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| 00:31.41 | demon | um, AAC isn't apple proprietary |
| 00:31.52 | demon | AAC is the official MPEG-4 audio format |
| 00:31.54 | necro2607 | ok, nevermind then |
| 00:32.01 | demon | and developed by dolby labs |
| 00:32.05 | necro2607 | wow, then this guy I know should suffer, or something |
| 00:32.32 | necro2607 | he was all talking about "Apple's AAC files" |
| 00:33.04 | demon | aac is an actual accepted standard |
| 00:33.11 | RQ | wonder if there are any debs for quicktime server |
| 00:33.24 | demon | unlike MS's media formats and codecs where they just get to make shit up as they go along |
| 00:33.26 | necro2607 | ahh, cool |
| 00:33.30 | necro2607 | yeah no doubt eh |
| 00:34.08 | demon | while apple has pulled some dumb shit, that's hardly something worth stringing them up for |
| 00:34.36 | necro2607 | indeed |
| 00:35.28 | RQ | demon, are you an apple maniac, or what? |
| 00:35.58 | necro2607 | heheh |
| 00:36.32 | demon | nope |
| 00:36.45 | demon | I think they make some good hardware, but I don't like their OSes at all :) |
| 00:36.46 | RQ | apple isn't as bad as ms |
| 00:36.55 | RQ | but still it's quite bad |
| 00:36.59 | demon | RQ: only because they're not as big as MS |
| 00:37.06 | RQ | exactly |
| 00:37.10 | demon | if they were, they'd be at least as bad |
| 00:37.12 | demon | maybe worse |
| 00:37.24 | RQ | if they were, things would prolly be worse than they are now |
| 00:37.30 | RQ | lol |
| 00:37.34 | necro2607 | heheh |
| 00:38.38 | necro2607 | i used to be totally anti-windows |
| 00:39.15 | necro2607 | i use a 1.6ghz Athlon system with WinXP as my main computer.. so i'm pretty used to it.. but last night using this new 6200CD I got for $9.99, it makes me remember why I liked my Mac so much more than any Windows comp |
| 00:39.38 | RQ | macos sucks |
| 00:39.45 | RQ | unless it's macosX |
| 00:40.09 | necro2607 | yeah, OS X rules.. i'd be using a G5 if I could |
| 00:40.12 | demon | heh. it's ok |
| 00:40.22 | RQ | at least its graphix subsystem |
| 00:40.27 | demon | RQ: doubt they can |
| 00:40.45 | RQ | sure they can't release it all |
| 00:40.47 | demon | probably a whole lot of licensed code from the SysV codebase |
| 00:40.58 | RQ | but they could partially, imo |
| 00:41.13 | RQ | the graphix is what interests me most |
| 00:41.16 | necro2607 | yeah there's definitely some licensed stuff in there, that was apple's first foray into the unix world |
| 00:41.24 | necro2607 | what was cool about the graphics system? |
| 00:41.25 | RQ | open kernels are better already |
| 00:41.41 | RQ | necro2607, do u think it was plain X? |
| 00:41.42 | RQ | ;] |
| 00:42.01 | RQ | i'd rather say they ported a part of macos to unix |
| 00:42.09 | RQ | inclunding this part |
| 00:42.50 | demon | it's probably some of the same technology that went into MAE |
| 00:43.01 | demon | now THAT i'd love to see open sourced |
| 00:43.11 | demon | (never happen, but...) |
| 00:43.21 | RQ | :)) |
| 00:44.06 | RQ | next reason to hate apple is that they didn't provide BeOS creators with their specs |
| 00:44.33 | RQ | what is the main reason BeOS won't work on any apple laptop |
| 00:45.07 | RQ | BeOS/PPC is even more dead than BeOS/x86 :/ |
| 00:45.37 | demon | it wouldn't even work on the oldworld laptops? |
| 00:45.42 | necro2607 | oh, yeah it definitely wasn't plian X :D |
| 00:45.51 | necro2607 | ohh yeah i forgot about that |
| 00:46.07 | demon | I figured it was just because of the changeover to newworld |
| 00:46.09 | RQ | nop |
| 00:46.10 | necro2607 | demon what's MAE? |
| 00:46.21 | demon | necro: the macintosh application environment |
| 00:46.30 | demon | it was for solaris and HP-UX |
| 00:46.31 | RQ | for unix |
| 00:46.34 | necro2607 | oh, sweet... |
| 00:46.58 | demon | it let you run MacOS applications in a window on unix machines, with file and clipboard crossover and other niceties |
| 00:47.11 | necro2607 | ownage |
| 00:47.55 | necro2607 | it's pretty funny, whoever owned this 6200CD before me left most of their stuff on there |
| 00:48.03 | necro2607 | including some received/sent faxes haha |
| 00:48.45 | RQ | :) |
| 00:48.52 | RQ | lol |
| 00:49.28 | RQ | when i got this pbook, there was a bunch of photos on its harddrivbe |
| 00:49.37 | necro2607 | heheh |
| 00:49.41 | RQ | some of these were very beautiful.... |
| 00:49.54 | RQ | and fuck me... i reformatted a drive :/ |
| 00:50.05 | necro2607 | oh yeah i also bought a 1.2gb HD from value village (where i got the 6200CD) and it had all the user's files on it including tons of digital camera photos, bookmarks, etc. etc. |
| 00:50.16 | necro2607 | damn, yeahi always check out used drives before formatting them heheh |
| 00:50.25 | RQ | :)) |
| 00:50.39 | RQ | sometimes there's very cool stuff on them... :/ |
| 00:50.57 | necro2607 | hehe yeah.. i now have the address and phone number of the guy and his name and wife's name, and kid's name |
| 00:51.03 | necro2607 | plus the login/pass to their old dialup ISP hahah |
| 00:51.42 | RQ | lol |
| 00:51.57 | necro2607 | also the guy used Hotline and Carracho which is kinda cool, most people don't know about those apps |
| 00:53.04 | RQ | lol |
| 00:53.08 | RQ | :)) |
| 00:53.14 | RQ | k. |
| 00:53.26 | RQ | i've gotta go2sleep.org |
| 00:53.33 | necro2607 | haha |
| 00:53.48 | necro2607 | www.sleep.net/tired.php?hours=9 |
| 00:53.57 | RQ | something like a get up is planned in tree hours and a half |
| 00:54.17 | RQ | nite... |
| 00:54.22 | necro2607 | ah cya later |
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| 01:14.22 | necro2607 | aw jeez |
| 01:14.29 | necro2607 | now i gotta go over to my cousin's and reformat their freakin computer |
| 01:14.33 | necro2607 | sooo agonizing |
| 01:21.11 | necro2607 | hmm, getting debian to boot on my 6200CD looks like it should actually be pretty damn easy |
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