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| 00:07.16 | spacecowboy | phew |
| 00:07.17 | spacecowboy | ok |
| 00:07.18 | spacecowboy | hey all |
| 00:07.20 | spacecowboy | finally back |
| 00:07.35 | spacecowboy | simonrvn hey |
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| 00:28.57 | skel | brb |
| 00:29.17 | spacecowboy | hmm |
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| 00:56.34 | benh | hi folks |
| 00:56.40 | benh | anybody tried evolution 1.5 yet ? and gnome 2.6 ? |
| 00:58.20 | core | not myself |
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| 01:06.36 | skel | benh!!! |
| 01:07.03 | skel | hah! I was just saying to myself.. I need to email that dude so he can enlighten me |
| 01:07.11 | skel | =P |
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| 01:08.18 | skel | benh: but seriously, I've been scouring groups and mailing lists to try to alieve my problem with external monitor support with the r128 M3 on the ibook2 |
| 01:08.44 | benh | heh |
| 01:08.51 | benh | well, it's a bit nasty |
| 01:09.00 | benh | it can be made to work though, there are patches floating around |
| 01:09.07 | skel | if I boot with video=aty128fb,lcd:1,crt:1 console works |
| 01:09.09 | benh | did you try asking on debian-devel ? |
| 01:10.31 | skel | that was one I was reading archives of and it appears others have already asked same question.. to which the reply was something of the sort "I have ibook2 with M3 and it works fine with m3mirror just had to setup two displays in X" and blah |
| 01:11.02 | skel | so was kinda wondering if I should ask again.. the first guy wasn't real clear in his question so probably would be good |
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| 01:11.38 | benh | no |
| 01:11.48 | benh | X doesn't do the 2 display thing on r128/M3 |
| 01:11.53 | benh | only on radeon (M6, M7) |
| 01:12.11 | skel | well the problem exists in console as well so the answer wasn't really even relevant.. |
| 01:12.15 | benh | tried asking owen stampflee ? he wrote some kernel hack to fix some issues with mirroring |
| 01:12.18 | skel | as well as if I startup mol |
| 01:12.39 | skel | benh: no, owen? is it #stampflee on this server? |
| 01:12.46 | skel | oh nm |
| 01:12.50 | skel | read that wrong |
| 01:13.16 | benh | nah, owen |
| 01:13.28 | benh | sorry, my mailer is down right now, I can't get you the details ;) |
| 01:13.35 | benh | but join #mklinux, he should be around |
| 01:13.36 | benh | (owen) |
| 01:13.51 | skel | benh: np, it's a step in any direction which is nice :) |
| 01:14.03 | skel | benh: my feet have been glued to the ground all day |
| 01:14.06 | skel | =P |
| 01:28.09 | jesusfish | are there any debs anywhere for Gnome 2.6? |
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| 01:43.00 | benh | jesusfish: in experimental, but I tried to install and got too many broken packages to even think about doing it |
| 01:48.10 | jesusfish | benh: yeah....I was gonna try it on my x86 machine, but they're broken there too...I got it installed, but Nautilus keot crashing |
| 01:48.35 | jesusfish | benh: I like KDE better anyways, but I like trying things out |
| 01:49.24 | jesusfish | lol |
| 01:49.30 | jesusfish | to each their own |
| 01:49.38 | jesusfish | I've used both |
| 01:49.50 | jesusfish | but always seemed to like KDE better |
| 01:50.16 | benh | well, the problem with KDE is that it's plain ugly ;) |
| 01:50.49 | jesusfish | benh: funny...I think mine looks better than Gnome |
| 01:51.05 | jesusfish | benh: but everyone has their own look |
| 01:51.26 | jesusfish | benh: I think Gnome is really well done....very nice desktop, just not for me |
| 01:51.49 | jesusfish | I'm not one of those KDE rocks, Gnome therefore must suck people |
| 01:52.20 | jesusfish | actually, the way Gnome looks and feels kind of reminds me of OS X |
| 01:52.51 | benh | well, I just don't know much about KDE, but each time I try it, I feel confused, to windows-ish |
| 01:53.03 | benh | gnome is more mac-like in some ways, right |
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| 01:59.18 | simonrvn | benh: tried nautilus in gnome 2.6? you'll really think that then |
| 01:59.55 | chrisa | nautilus starts in a fairly reasonable timeframe in 2.6 now |
| 02:00.04 | benh | simonrvn: I've seen some screenshots |
| 02:00.20 | benh | I'm waiting for things to settle down a bit now. Packages are broken all the time right now in experimental |
| 02:00.41 | benh | bbl |
| 02:00.47 | chrisa | simonrvn: My "shut up about how pretty osx is" screen cap: http://chris.nullcode.org/desktop.png |
| 02:02.21 | simonrvn | k |
| 02:05.19 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 02:05.52 | simonrvn | chrisa: btw, how do you get ob3 to have it *not* opaque move/resize windows? |
| 02:06.23 | chrisa | Probably in the rc somewhere, I prefer opaque movement |
| 02:07.08 | simonrvn | i set it, but it's not "listening" to that |
| 02:07.19 | simonrvn | <resize> |
| 02:07.19 | simonrvn | <drawContents>no</drawContents> |
| 02:07.20 | simonrvn | </resize> |
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| 02:12.19 | simonrvn | i'm probably missing something to activate it properly or something |
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| 02:37.19 | blisnty | hey can anyone help me get airport up and running? |
| 02:37.37 | kimo_sabe | blisnty: ifup eth1 |
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| 02:38.06 | blisnty | eth1 isn't setup yet |
| 02:38.22 | blisnty | says ignoring unknown interface |
| 02:41.01 | blisnty | ok i know what I need to do |
| 02:41.59 | blisnty | diff question, if i'm moving between 2 networks should I just have 2 scripts for each one and run it when I'm there or is there a way for it to auto detect and set the correct ssid and hex key? |
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| 03:16.50 | simonrvn | blisnty: configure it. man interfaces |
| 03:18.10 | blisnty | i got it, thanks |
| 03:18.28 | blisnty | now I keep getting this Tx error... |
| 03:18.57 | blisnty | from what i can get from google, i might need to update my kernel? |
| 03:19.32 | simonrvn | you could. especially if it's a newer machine. even an older machine might need to, for security reasons |
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| 03:21.01 | blisnty | people seem to be raving about Ben Herrenschmidt's kernel, would you recommend getting that? |
| 03:21.52 | chrisa | Get mainline 2.6 |
| 03:22.00 | simonrvn | mainline kernel is fine. wtih 2.4 is was pretty essential, because mainline wouldn't accept ppc changes very quickly if at all; now that's different |
| 03:22.10 | simonrvn | it was* |
| 03:22.58 | blisnty | it was*? |
| 03:24.30 | simonrvn | nm |
| 03:26.09 | skel | typically, do you run patch from /usr/src or /usr/src/linux.2.X.X ? |
| 03:26.44 | simonrvn | from the tree itself |
| 03:27.08 | skel | ok |
| 03:27.18 | skel | just read a howto that said /usr/src |
| 03:27.23 | simonrvn | i do: (b|z)cat ../patch | path -p1 --dry-run, then remove the --dry-run after it applies successfully |
| 03:27.38 | simonrvn | patch* |
| 03:29.48 | skel | simonrvn: running 2.6.5 yet? |
| 03:29.57 | simonrvn | Linux anubis 2.6.5-ppc #1 Sun Apr 4 12:55:16 UTC 2004 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 03:30.04 | skel | how's it working? |
| 03:30.08 | simonrvn | fine |
| 03:30.28 | chrisa | works well |
| 03:30.33 | chrisa | No big difference |
| 03:30.35 | skel | is the macserial stuff still in the config? |
| 03:31.05 | skel | well I just finished dl so I can check now =P |
| 03:33.04 | blisnty | I have an X install issue, says could not open default font 'fixed'...I just installed it and then ran dpkg-reconfigure |
| 03:34.14 | simonrvn | apt-get install xfonts-base ? |
| 03:34.21 | skel | blisnty: if you stole your config from somewhere make sure the paths to the fonts are correct.. |
| 03:34.27 | simonrvn | um, fixed not base |
| 03:34.32 | simonrvn | @fixed fonts |
| 03:34.45 | simonrvn | @listkeys fixed |
| 03:34.48 | ravenbird | Factoid search of 'fixed' by key (4 shown): fixed ;; fixed sid ssh packages ;; fixedfont ;; fixed font. |
| 03:34.57 | simonrvn | @fixed font |
| 03:34.58 | ravenbird | if you have a problem XFree86 it not finding 'fixed' font, see fonts.alias, or /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz, or make sure xfonts-base is installed, or purge and reinstall it, or see fontfix |
| 03:34.58 | chrisa | it's in xbase-fonts |
| 03:35.15 | chrisa | errr |
| 03:35.19 | chrisa | I'm dyslexic :) |
| 03:35.22 | simonrvn | i had it the first time =) |
| 03:35.35 | simonrvn | chrisa: 'sok |
| 03:37.21 | skel | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] |
| 03:37.27 | skel | ? |
| 03:37.49 | chrisa | abort! |
| 03:38.04 | blisnty | xbase-fonts? is that in a package of a diff name? |
| 03:38.09 | simonrvn | what are you applying and to what? |
| 03:38.29 | blisnty | oh, would it be xfonts-base |
| 03:38.31 | blisnty | apt-get |
| 03:38.51 | skel | simonrvn: http://www.gulp.linux.it/Members/Arcimboldo/ibook/aty128fb-m3fixes-2_5benh_diff |
| 03:38.56 | skel | simonrvn: to 2.6.5 |
| 03:39.20 | skel | simonrvn: its to fix the external monitor problems with r128 m3 |
| 03:39.46 | simonrvn | ok. see what it changes, and if the changes are already applied then don't do it :) |
| 03:40.05 | skel | i *just* downloaded 2.6.5 so maybe its already been merged in there? |
| 03:40.12 | skel | didn't see it in the change log though |
| 03:40.14 | simonrvn | quite possible |
| 03:40.18 | kimo_sabe | skel: so it's doesn't flicked and wiggle? |
| 03:40.28 | skel | kimo_sabe: exactly |
| 03:40.36 | simonrvn | like i said, look at the patch, and compare |
| 03:40.41 | kimo_sabe | skel: awesome |
| 03:40.56 | skel | kimo_sabe: lets hope |
| 03:40.58 | skel | =P |
| 03:41.40 | skel | heh 8 out of 9 hunks failed =P |
| 03:41.45 | skel | I'll take that as a no.. |
| 03:41.52 | simonrvn | looks like it was already there |
| 03:42.06 | blisnty | ACK! I got X started but now I can switch terminals... |
| 03:42.08 | skel | but since I did a --dry-run it didn't actually apply it right? |
| 03:42.13 | simonrvn | yup |
| 03:42.17 | skel | simonrvn: ok cool |
| 03:45.04 | blisnty | wait, scratch that, I have X open but can't change terminals al la alt-f1 |
| 03:45.16 | simonrvn | ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 03:46.01 | blisnty | lol |
| 03:46.03 | blisnty | duh |
| 03:46.04 | blisnty | i knew that |
| 03:46.11 | blisnty | thanks |
| 03:46.38 | blisnty | why does one need to add teh ctrl? |
| 03:47.24 | simonrvn | cuz it's x |
| 03:48.04 | blisnty | heh, cool thanks for all the help guys, I finally have it all working...at least for now |
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