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| 00:18.17 | Is_907 | i've just started to attempt to install Debian on my PowerBook G4 (12")... every time i tell OpenFirmware to "boot hd:0,yaboot" it tells me "LOAD-SIZE is too small" ?? |
| 00:18.54 | denken | why dont you just boot off the cd? |
| 00:19.03 | Is_907 | i can't... at least, i don't know how |
| 00:19.14 | denken | hold down the 'c' key during boot |
| 00:19.19 | Is_907 | ... |
| 00:19.22 | Is_907 | it's that simple? haha |
| 00:19.24 | Is_907 | thanks ;) |
| 00:19.33 | denken | its a mac! of course its that simple :P |
| 00:20.04 | Is_907 | (= |
| 00:20.56 | denken | i take it you have read brandens install guide? |
| 00:21.18 | Is_907 | no... i was just reading the one on the cd |
| 00:21.27 | denken | sec |
| 00:21.30 | Is_907 | and uh... holding c during boot didn't work (though it did when i reinstalled OSX) |
| 00:21.51 | Is_907 | (this is one instance where i *love* access to the BIOS on my PCs (= ) |
| 00:22.40 | denken | http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |
| 00:22.45 | Is_907 | thanks |
| 00:22.49 | denken | if c doesnt work, you probably dont have a bootable cd |
| 00:22.54 | denken | or, your not doing it right |
| 00:23.00 | Is_907 | it's probably the latter |
| 00:23.09 | Is_907 | i got the plain 3.0r2 powerpc disc |
| 00:23.13 | denken | i like to power off with the cd in the drive, then power on and as *soon* as you hear the startup chime, hold c |
| 00:23.25 | Is_907 | though it's possible i burned it as not-bootable, i guess |
| 00:23.27 | denken | yea, that should be bootable |
| 00:23.29 | Is_907 | yeah, that's how i do it |
| 00:23.38 | denken | yes, you may have burned incorrectly |
| 00:24.02 | denken | the previous openfirmware way - what partition did you load the boot files onto? |
| 00:24.09 | denken | i.e. yaboot, root.bin, etc. |
| 00:24.23 | Is_907 | the only partition i have |
| 00:24.39 | denken | your replacing mac os x? your going to boot debian only? |
| 00:25.00 | denken | and what i meant was, what partition *number* :) |
| 00:25.02 | Is_907 | yeah... i'm one of those people who switches OS about every week ;) |
| 00:25.06 | Is_907 | 1 |
| 00:25.10 | Is_907 | i guess |
| 00:25.17 | denken | no its not 1 |
| 00:25.19 | Is_907 | i did 0 |
| 00:25.23 | Is_907 | and got the size error |
| 00:25.35 | Is_907 | (sorry, i'm not thinking, i meant 0) |
| 00:25.41 | denken | its actually something like 3 or 4 believe it or not |
| 00:25.47 | Is_907 | O_o |
| 00:25.48 | denken | read brandens page |
| 00:26.03 | Is_907 | why couldn't it be hd0,0 ? =P *huggles old GRUB* |
| 00:26.35 | denken | oh also, the 3.0r2 disk wont be able to see the drive on the powerbook g4 12" :) |
| 00:26.41 | denken | you need a newer installer disk |
| 00:26.59 | Is_907 | ahh |
| 00:27.09 | Is_907 | that would explain my trouble ;) |
| 00:27.16 | Is_907 | where does one find a newer installer disc? |
| 00:27.22 | denken | i have a 12" myself... just starting to remember what i did to get debian instlaled |
| 00:27.27 | Is_907 | hehe |
| 00:27.28 | denken | i dual boot mac os x and debian on it |
| 00:27.37 | Is_907 | ah |
| 00:27.53 | denken | brandens page covers most of that too, or it will get you 90% of the way there anyway |
| 00:28.00 | Is_907 | i'd do that... but i really see no use in it since i consider a reboot a *ton* of hassle |
| 00:28.07 | Is_907 | right, i'm reading that page now |
| 00:28.34 | denken | ah but get this, you can boot into debian, then run mac os x inside MOL from its own partition :) |
| 00:28.43 | Is_907 | heh |
| 00:28.54 | denken | you know how MOL works? |
| 00:29.01 | Is_907 | not really |
| 00:29.12 | Is_907 | only "emulation" stuff i've done is VPC and wine |
| 00:29.14 | denken | its the same as VMware or Virtual PC |
| 00:29.16 | Is_907 | ah |
| 00:29.24 | denken | but it runs Mac OS inside Linux |
| 00:29.33 | Is_907 | that'd be fun... but somewhat pointless ;) |
| 00:29.49 | denken | if you have an airport extreme card, its the only way youll be able to use it |
| 00:30.03 | denken | pointless depends on your situation i would think |
| 00:30.04 | Is_907 | i don't have on at the moment |
| 00:30.08 | Is_907 | *one |
| 00:30.09 | denken | its certainly not pointless for me |
| 00:30.12 | Is_907 | right |
| 00:30.29 | Is_907 | i've heard some stuff about the newer airport cards in *nix environments... not sure about it, though |
| 00:30.48 | denken | trust me, they dont work in linux natively |
| 00:33.07 | Is_907 | crud... i think an ant just crawled under the keyboard of my pbook |
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| 00:33.45 | denken | i promise i wont tell a bug/computer joke right now... |
| 00:33.52 | Is_907 | go for it (= |
| 00:35.41 | Is_907 | ahh, i take it branden's install guide is for a net-based installation and not from a disc, then |
| 00:36.18 | denken | there is no real difference |
| 00:38.03 | Is_907 | how so? |
| 00:38.17 | Is_907 | you mean, in that both methods require (in my case) a hdd-boot ? |
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| 00:39.20 | denken | no, in that the only differnece is that packages are pulled form the 'net instead of a CD |
| 00:39.26 | Is_907 | right |
| 00:39.32 | denken | getting the system booted into the installer is another matter entirely |
| 00:39.41 | Is_907 | i have, in fact, never done a cd-based installation of debian on my PCs... heh |
| 00:41.03 | denken | gotta run. i have to deliver this music i mixed to a dance recital down the road |
| 00:41.10 | Is_907 | oh, you were saying something about the installer not seeing my disk drive... er... i downloaded the files mentioned in brandens guide and it won't let me partition O_o |
| 00:41.13 | Is_907 | ah ok, thanks for the help |
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