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| 00:53.26 | calkj | Hey if there are some powerbook users around, i'd love to hear how you changed your keyboard mapping to suit your needs (e.g. function keys, the 'apple' key, the power button,...)! |
| 00:54.45 | Freak | darn calkj :) I had that working, then apple borked my installation and now I don't get it back to the state I had before they erased my hard drive :) |
| 00:55.07 | Freak | and I do of course not have a backup :) |
| 00:55.59 | calkj | Freak: so what did you do for your keyboard? |
| 00:56.10 | Freak | if I only knew |
| 00:56.26 | Freak | I had mouse_btn2 mapped to F11 and 3 to F12 |
| 00:56.34 | Freak | I had apple mapped as AltGr |
| 00:56.42 | Freak | that's basically it. |
| 00:57.56 | Freak | calkj: all based on http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schmidtm/apple/powerbook.de.php |
| 00:57.58 | Freak | mostly. |
| 00:58.16 | Freak | oh, it's a g4 12" powerbook, for me. |
| 00:58.28 | Freak | I didn't think of you might be having a titan or g3 pb |
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| 01:01.29 | calkj | Frank: the exact model doesn't matter, this is for a G3 pismo and an old 3400 powerbook, do you remeber how you did the remapping? xkeys? I also would like to have the powerbook-function(fn) key automatically pressed whenever i press a F1-12 key |
| 01:02.19 | Freak | freak, it is. |
| 01:02.39 | calkj | Frank: ? xkeys? |
| 01:02.39 | Freak | calkj: that, I didn't have. |
| 01:02.58 | Freak | but there's a nice howto linked-to on the page I gave you the url for. |
| 01:03.04 | Freak | it's Freak, not Frank |
| 01:03.52 | calkj | Frank/Freak: i see, (frank is a very german name so i got stuck to it) :) |
| 01:04.21 | Freak | yes but my name is Sebastian although I am german. |
| 01:04.25 | Freak | ;P |
| 01:04.35 | Freak | nevermind. |
| 01:07.25 | calkj | Freak/seb: on your webpage i read that u did a yaboot.conf entry to be able to burn cd's. why that? |
| 01:07.40 | Freak | wtf? |
| 01:07.59 | Freak | no that is not _my_ webpage. |
| 01:09.30 | Freak | sorry pal I fear I won't be able to help you at this time of day anymore, gtg. gn8 |
| 01:09.43 | calkj | Freak: ok, anyway, then could u tell me how you create an 'Umlaut' with your keyboard (is it qwertz or qwerty)? |
| 01:10.14 | calkj | Freak: i am also awake for too long! don't worry! |
| 01:10.16 | Freak | umlauts are no problem with a qwertz keyboard. |
| 01:10.28 | Freak | just dpkg-reconfigure console-tools and select the right keymap. |
| 01:10.44 | calkj | ok, i am on a qwerty here (but still german-speaking) |
| 01:10.50 | Freak | ic |
| 01:11.12 | Freak | well then for X there's Xmodmap. but please don't ask me, I don't know how to do it :) |
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| 01:11.34 | Freak | but actually if I were you, I'd just prefer the qwerty and stay with it :) |
| 01:12.36 | Freak | nn. |
| 01:15.45 | calkj | Freak: u know, in my country you have to write Umlauts sometimes! |
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| 01:22.29 | calkj | Freak: ok, thanks for your help! Let's go to bed! |
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| 04:24.34 | Nemesis__ | anyone alive? |
| 04:25.00 | schasi | nope |
| 04:25.27 | Nemesis__ | hehe |
| 04:25.35 | Nemesis__ | im trying to get debian installed on a pm G3... |
| 04:25.39 | Nemesis__ | without much luck |
| 04:25.46 | schasi | pm g3? |
| 04:26.09 | Nemesis__ | powermac |
| 04:26.10 | Nemesis__ | g3 |
| 04:26.11 | Nemesis__ | beige |
| 04:26.21 | schasi | oh |
| 04:26.36 | schasi | Well i have to tell you that i dont have a clue |
| 04:27.15 | schasi | Didnt get Linux on my ibook so far |
| 04:31.47 | Nemesis__ | ive screwed something up |
| 04:31.58 | Nemesis__ | cuz the hard disk is making a terrible noise and i cant even boot the MacOs cdrom |
| 04:35.25 | schasi | Im sorry, i dont know |
| 04:35.36 | schasi | why cant you boot up? Must be possible |
| 04:35.37 | Nemesis__ | hehe |
| 04:45.07 | sloopy | Nemesis__: what does the screen show when you turn the machine on? |
| 04:46.25 | Nemesis__ | sloopy: the whole story (well, cut down). Box was running Mac OS 9.2.2, BootX'ed to the Deb installer, hit the disk partitioner, and created partitions |
| 04:46.38 | Nemesis__ | hit 'w' to write, it wrote the partitions, then the machine locked up |
| 04:46.50 | Nemesis__ | (i left it for 10 mins, and still nothing, hard disk not whirring, etc) |
| 04:47.31 | sloopy | probly a first gen G3 beige... they have a known flakey ide controller... best to get a pci card for it (scsi or ide) |
| 04:47.33 | Nemesis__ | so, i reinstalled Mac OS 9.1... it finished, i hit reboot. now the har disk makes a horrible grinding noise |
| 04:47.48 | Nemesis__ | damnit |
| 04:47.53 | sloopy | may be bad timing and the HD went south... |
| 04:47.53 | Nemesis__ | but i cant even boot into MacOS now |
| 04:48.16 | Nemesis__ | ive got another hard disk with PPC linux on it |
| 04:48.25 | Nemesis__ | (for a differnt machine tho) |
| 04:48.37 | Nemesis__ | can i plug that in and get anywhere? |
| 04:48.41 | sloopy | shouldnt matter... should still work... |
| 04:48.49 | Nemesis__ | k.. |
| 04:48.53 | Nemesis__ | any idea how to boot it tho? |
| 04:49.08 | sloopy | does it have a mac os partition on it? |
| 04:49.12 | Nemesis__ | i got into open firmware and did 'setenv boot-device ata/ata-disk@0:0 |
| 04:49.12 | Nemesis__ | no |
| 04:49.15 | Nemesis__ | er, yes actually |
| 04:49.25 | Nemesis__ | OS 7 or something haha |
| 04:49.56 | sloopy | use bootx... bootx will work on any version of mac os down to 7.5 atleast and maybe 7.1 |
| 04:50.06 | sloopy | what machine is the HD currently in? |
| 04:50.21 | Nemesis__ | i get the impression when i reinstalled OS 9.1 it updated the ide controller or something? |
| 04:50.27 | Nemesis__ | (it said it was..) would that screw it up? |
| 04:50.34 | Nemesis__ | the hd was pulled from a 4400 |
| 04:51.00 | sloopy | no... should be fine... linux derectly accesses the hardware... |
| 04:51.44 | sloopy | ok... the mac os wont work on the G3... (too old) but you should be able to update it with the os 9 cd... try zapping the pram tho... |
| 04:53.25 | Nemesis__ | cant i just set some variables in OF to boot straight to linux? |
| 04:54.34 | Nemesis__ | oooh youre rite its just the har disk died in the ass |
| 04:54.49 | Nemesis__ | ive BootX'ed into the 4400's hard disk |
| 04:57.18 | sloopy | Nemesis__: you can but OF on old world machines is flakey at best... |
| 04:58.20 | Nemesis__ | i have to set some OF parameters to make it use quik anyway dont i? |
| 04:58.23 | Nemesis__ | (ive booted now) |
| 05:00.56 | sloopy | yeah |
| 05:02.32 | Nemesis__ | whats this mean? |
| 05:02.35 | Nemesis__ | "Must Run System Disk to Apply OF Patches First " |
| 05:04.09 | sloopy | brb |
| 05:04.47 | Nemesis__ | k |
| 05:08.29 | sloopy | http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/SystemDisk-tutorial/ |
| 05:09.08 | sloopy | Nemesis__: it applys to linux as well... |
| 05:10.13 | sloopy | !system disk |
| 05:10.21 | sloopy | ravenbird botsnack |
| 05:10.23 | ravenbird | sloopy: :) |
| 05:10.36 | sloopy | %system disk |
| 05:10.44 | sloopy | ravenbird system disk |
| 05:10.46 | ravenbird | sloopy: je le sais pas, pourrait-tu me l'expliquer? |
| 05:11.13 | sloopy | ravenbird: System Disk is http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/SystemDisk-tutorial/ |
| 05:11.14 | ravenbird | okay, sloopy |
| 05:11.21 | sloopy | ravenbird system disk |
| 05:11.22 | ravenbird | extra, extra, read all about it, system disk is http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/SystemDisk-tutorial/ |
| 05:24.35 | Nemesis__ | are u actually able to download the system profiler off the apple ftp site? |
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| 05:36.41 | Nemesis__ | sloopy: you wouldnt still be here would u? |
| 06:00.05 | sloopy | Nemesis__: i am sorta here... |
| 06:00.57 | Nemesis__ | heh, sorry to bother u again |
| 06:01.06 | Nemesis__ | i cant get it to boot straight to linux |
| 06:01.31 | Nemesis__ | ive tried setting boot-device to ata/ata-disk@0:0, 0:1, 1:0, 1:1 |
| 06:02.12 | Nemesis__ | hd:0, hd:1 |
| 06:02.25 | Nemesis__ | ide0/disk@0:0, 0:1, 1:1.. etc |
| 06:02.52 | Nemesis__ | also tried changing the 1s to 7s and 8s (cuz the linux root is on /dev/hda8 |
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