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| 02:23.24 | treehunter | hmmm i can't get my mouse to work on my iMac G3 any ideas |
| 02:27.17 | shadows | spank it. i don't know |
| 02:27.27 | shadows | i'm not very helpful with hardware i don't own |
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| 02:36.41 | trashmatic | treehunter: do you get anything when you cat /dev/mice? |
| 02:37.15 | treehunter | one sec... |
| 02:37.25 | trashmatic | move the mouse around aftr you run the command |
| 02:41.53 | treehunter | no nothing happens the command just sits |
| 02:42.12 | trashmatic | you tried moving the mouse and clicking buttons? |
| 02:42.17 | treehunter | and im doing /dev/input/mice b/c /dev/mice does not exist |
| 02:42.20 | treehunter | yep |
| 02:42.24 | treehunter | doesn't move |
| 02:42.41 | trashmatic | /dev/inup/mice is what i meant, sorry. it sounds like a kernel-level problem then :/ |
| 02:42.57 | trashmatic | does it work in MacOS? |
| 02:43.04 | treehunter | yes |
| 02:43.12 | demon | are you sure the kernel sees the mouse being plugged in? |
| 02:43.19 | treehunter | yes |
| 02:43.31 | demon | did you build your own kernel? |
| 02:43.36 | treehunter | no |
| 02:43.57 | treehunter | one sec....i have one more idea that i didn't try with the new kernel |
| 02:46.14 | jofresi | hi anyone using wi-fi AP with WPA enc. and airport 802.11b ? |
| 02:46.53 | skel | jofresi: yeah |
| 02:47.43 | jofresi | sk1p the 'iwconfig' aproach to bring up the connection is identical to WEP ? |
| 02:48.32 | skel | jofresi: if you use iwconfig ethX key <key-here> that should do it.. |
| 02:48.48 | jofresi | ok ..thanks |
| 02:48.53 | skel | jofresi: you can also do it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:49.24 | jofresi | yha i have it configured to work with wep but i need to connecto to a network with WPA |
| 02:52.08 | jofresi | the new installer is getting superb :) airport out of the box and all... |
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| 03:03.41 | skel | :) |
| 03:09.50 | skel | wait |
| 03:09.52 | skel | wpa? |
| 03:12.30 | skel | i'm sorry my font is really light.. I thought you said WEP |
| 03:12.47 | skel | I have no clue if it works with wpa or even what wpa is.. :( |
| 03:13.49 | jofresi | yes... i was reading at linux-sec.net/Wireless/WPA/ and it seems that is not the same aproach and iwconfig has to have some extra support |
| 03:15.48 | skel | sorry about that, didn't mean to mislead you :( |
| 03:16.21 | jofresi | forget it... i will try it and then see how to deal with it |
| 03:16.39 | skel | jofresi: maybe ask in #security |
| 03:16.39 | jofresi | kernel that supports wireless extensions version 15 or later |
| 03:16.51 | skel | oh this is a 2.4 patch? |
| 03:17.50 | jofresi | have to dive in the /usr/local/src/linux/include/linux/wireless.h ( first 5-10 lines ) |
| 03:19.12 | jofresi | they talk about a patch but it can be allready implemented in the current kernels |
| 03:19.21 | skel | 2.6 as well? |
| 03:20.06 | jofresi | can't say yet... still "jigdoing" a sarge cd :P |
| 03:20.40 | skel | ah :-P |
| 03:20.44 | skel | I just do the netinst |
| 03:57.01 | sloopy | shadows: ping |
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| 07:09.21 | gausus | re |
| 07:09.44 | gausus | does anyone know will the standard pc so-dimm will fit for ibook ? |
| 07:10.19 | skel | eek. no clue =P |
| 07:12.59 | simonrvn | check the specs |
| 07:13.16 | gausus | RAM Type: PC100 SO-DIMM |
| 07:13.20 | gausus | apple history ^^^^^ |
| 07:36.47 | trashmatic | just a heads-up for everyone: the suspend bug i was having with my powerbook was a bug in pbbuttonsd when used with kernel 2.6 and alsa |
| 07:37.36 | trashmatic | if anyone on testing has this hang-on-suspend problem, try grabbing pbbuttonsd 0.6.3a from unstable |
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| 08:11.48 | LarstiQ | any OSX savvy people around? I'm wondering what 'U' means in ps output, I'm guessing something like uninterruptible sleep |
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| 08:40.34 | shadows | sloopy: pong |
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| 08:52.10 | oniryx | trashmatic: hi, which bug? |
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| 09:09.21 | srini | before I go to the trouble of setting up a network boot server does anyone know if a B&W g3 can netboot? |
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| 09:11.14 | pmind | sometimes, when I do /join #debianppc, I see that I'm banned |
| 09:11.18 | pmind | Why? |
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| 09:12.09 | pmind | I've done something in the chat or ... the problem is my client? |
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| 09:34.49 | simonrvn | pmind: because you're joining as root. don't do that |
| 09:35.12 | simonrvn | pmind: you shouldn't IRC as root |
| 09:36.20 | pmind | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.31 | pmind | I'm trying a new client irc |
| 09:36.37 | pmind | irssi |
| 09:36.50 | pmind | thanks |
| 09:37.56 | oniryx | srini: didnt try with a netboot, floppy was fine for me |
| 10:03.37 | srini | oniryx: ENOFLOPPYDRIVE |
| 10:06.42 | oniryx | srini: ok :( |
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| 10:19.29 | srini | getting there with netbooting tho |
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| 10:33.44 | srini | what file should I use to netboot the g3 from anyway? the docs indicate .../prep/images-1.44/boot.bin which sounds wrong |
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| 10:54.56 | spturtle | srini: the kernel and initrd for a cd maybe? |
| 10:59.34 | pmind | c |
| 11:00.45 | srini | linux.bin and root.bin seem to have done it (having munged yaboot.conf) |
| 11:24.03 | godsmacker | Why does kernel 2.6.6 complain about a too old version of binutils (>= 2.12.1) even if I've got 2.15 installed? |
| 11:37.39 | spturtle | gcc version? |
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| 12:27.13 | GnuEtiK | plop |
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| 12:44.41 | pmind | anyone can help with my Xserver error? |
| 12:45.07 | pmind | please, it is very important! |
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| 13:24.07 | sloopy | shadows: ping |
| 13:36.10 | shadows | sloopy, pong |
| 13:45.40 | pmind | anyone knows alsa? Where I can find configuration manual or howto? |
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| 13:48.05 | sloopy | shadows: i went to delaware yesterday... and saw my former employer... unfotunatly he threw out alot of his old stuff including the 6100 with the nubus bracket in it... |
| 13:51.45 | sloopy | including the io cards for the media 100... :'/ |
| 13:59.52 | shadows | :o( |
| 13:59.54 | shadows | damn |
| 14:00.02 | shadows | well thanks for following through though |
| 14:03.38 | shadows | i found someone who sent me a picture of it |
| 14:04.00 | shadows | and it says right on the PCB board, "Apple Nubus Powermac 6100/60 Adapter" |
| 14:20.09 | spturtle | shadows: so this is a different board than e.g. IIsi uses? (don't remember if any 040 has an optional nubus slot) |
| 14:21.43 | Q-FUNK | Q: what is the national flag of a stoned cannuck? A: http://www.iki.fi/q-funk/canabilalippu.gif |
| 14:33.36 | srini | does the B&W G3 use any weird ide things? I've just upgraded to the sstock 2.6.7 kernel and there's a distinct lack of hard drive (but the CD drive is detected) |
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| 14:39.40 | GnuEtiK | re |
| 14:43.59 | sloopy | spturtle: the board he is looking for is specific to the 6100... |
| 14:45.09 | sloopy | shadows: i have another solution for you... wanna buy my router machine? its physical dimensions are the same as the 6100... it is a UMAX C500 mac clone... it has a 603@200Mhz... |
| 14:48.34 | sloopy | shadows: hmmm actually it is narrower then a 6100... |
| 14:50.39 | thebug | srini: CMD646 IDE is what the primart IDE controller on a B&W is |
| 14:53.34 | srini | thebug: should that be supported in the stock debian kernel? |
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| 14:55.12 | thebug | srini: should be |
| 14:57.45 | srini | now I'm very conused. I have /boot/vmlinux-2.6.7-powerpc, a symlink to it in /vmlinux, the correct entry in yaboot.conf with initrd and have run ybin yet the old kernel is being used |
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| 15:20.02 | pmind | the bug: can you help me? |
| 15:21.36 | thebug | I don't own a laptop, so if it's a laptop question no, if it's plain ol' debian related, yes |
| 15:21.51 | thebug | and don't /msg me |
| 15:21.59 | thebug | :) |
| 15:22.20 | pmind | ok,sorry If I have messages you |
| 15:22.40 | Dizzutch | hey all, all of a sudden yesterday, everytime i open an xterm i get this message flooding the terminal: bash /dev/null: Permission denied anyone know anything about that? |
| 15:23.28 | thebug | Dizzutch: is your /dev/null chmod'd 666 ? |
| 15:23.48 | pmind | how can I do to configure a audio card? |
| 15:24.14 | pmind | I think that this problem is not only for laptop |
| 15:24.22 | thebug | no clue, that's a laptop-related question, might be as easy as modprobe dmasound_pmac |
| 15:24.34 | thebug | it's specific to your laptop, innit? |
| 15:25.05 | pmind | y |
| 15:25.29 | pmind | so, I can find someone that have my laptop |
| 15:25.38 | pmind | sorry |
| 15:25.47 | pmind | so, I must find someone that have my laptop |
| 15:25.58 | thebug | no problem, it's just a specific-hardware question about hardware I don't have :) |
| 15:25.59 | Dizzutch | thebug, hmm that was it, weird how could that could be changed like that |
| 15:26.02 | Dizzutch | thebug, thanks |
| 15:26.17 | thebug | Dizzutch: no idea, might want to check for funny security goings-on in your logs |
| 15:26.32 | thebug | that doesn't sound like something that should ever get changed |
| 15:27.08 | pmind | thebug:you know better than me the guys of this channel. you know someone that have an ibook? |
| 15:27.33 | thebug | lots of people do, but I don't know anyone specifically who has one |
| 15:27.43 | Dizzutch | pmind, i got onw, what model? |
| 15:27.48 | thebug | let alone the fact that 'ibook' refers to like 8 computers |
| 15:27.50 | pmind | 1Ghz |
| 15:27.53 | pmind | 12-- |
| 15:28.01 | Dizzutch | year? |
| 15:28.03 | pmind | 12'' lcd |
| 15:28.09 | Dizzutch | ok |
| 15:28.11 | Dizzutch | silver one |
| 15:28.21 | pmind | 2004 |
| 15:28.49 | Dizzutch | ok |
| 15:28.53 | Dizzutch | whatabout it? |
| 15:29.13 | thebug | he basically wants to know which module to load to get sound <what I'm inferring here> |
| 15:29.22 | pmind | I can't configure the sound card and the X server |
| 15:29.34 | Dizzutch | ok |
| 15:29.47 | pmind | I have the 2.6 kernel |
| 15:29.51 | pmind | 2.6.7 |
| 15:29.52 | Dizzutch | what i found with sound on ibooks is to statically compile the ALSA modules with your 2.6 kernel |
| 15:29.59 | Dizzutch | switch to 2.6.6 |
| 15:30.07 | pmind | I have installed alsa |
| 15:30.15 | Dizzutch | 2.6.uneven is considered development |
| 15:30.21 | Dizzutch | from source or in the kernel? |
| 15:30.28 | pmind | source |
| 15:30.51 | Dizzutch | ok alsa now comes in the 2.6 kernel |
| 15:31.01 | Dizzutch | so you can enable it in there, no need to install it from source |
| 15:31.14 | pmind | the first time I have try to compile by myself the kernel |
| 15:31.33 | pmind | and after i have installed the 2.6.7 with aptget |
| 15:31.55 | Dizzutch | ok |
| 15:32.10 | Dizzutch | i've never done that, so i can't help you with that |
| 15:33.15 | thebug | Dizzutch: he can probably get it working if you can give him the name of the module that your laptop uses for the sound <even though yours is built into the kernel> |
| 15:34.29 | Dizzutch | i think they have a different sound card though |
| 15:34.33 | Dizzutch | but i'll check |
| 15:34.47 | pmind | Someone in the channel has tell to me that is better that I take the kernel with apt-get |
| 15:35.58 | Dizzutch | i believe the module is called dmasound |
| 15:36.43 | thebug | dmasound-pmac ? |
| 15:36.56 | pmind | are there a log file that I can watch to you? |
| 15:37.52 | sloopy | dmasound_pmac |
| 15:38.13 | thebug | :) |
| 15:38.55 | Dizzutch | lspci might help |
| 15:40.21 | pmind | maybe hwinfo is better! |
| 15:41.35 | pmind | with hwinfo -> sound:Apple Integrated sound (awacs) |
| 15:42.53 | pmind | in lspci I don't find the sound card, and I don't know if this is normal! |
| 15:47.22 | Dizzutch | pmind, i have the same sound card, so dmasound_pmac should work |
| 15:48.49 | pmind | So, i must rcompile the kernel? |
| 15:48.58 | pmind | recompile |
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| 15:57.00 | pmind | haw can i do to know if the option dmasound_pmac is enable on my ibook? |
| 16:01.21 | pmind | Dizzutch: Have you my same laptop? |
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| 16:14.33 | pmind | Dizzutch....Are already with us? |
| 16:16.17 | Official_Idler | is benh 2.6 rsync still broken? |
| 16:19.43 | Dizzutch | pmind, no i have a 2001 ibook |
| 16:22.31 | pmind | Dizzutch: so I must recompile the kernel? |
| 16:22.47 | pmind | Dizzutch: to enable the option? |
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| 16:50.00 | Dizzutch | pmind that's what i did |
| 16:50.12 | Dizzutch | but are you sure the volumes not muted? |
| 16:50.16 | Dizzutch | install kmix or so |
| 16:50.17 | Dizzutch | and check that |
| 16:50.25 | Dizzutch | unload the module |
| 16:50.28 | Dizzutch | then load it again |
| 16:50.42 | Dizzutch | and check if /var/log/messages or /var/log/kernel.log says anything |
| 16:53.02 | spturtle | Official_Idler: use the regular bk tree (or snapshots) |
| 16:54.27 | spturtle | pmind: use snd-powermac (alsa)! |
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