| 00:08.38 | bip | ok i can go to bed happy now i have a workin ppc debian install :-) |
| 00:09.05 | pahartik | bip: something to be proud of |
| 00:09.21 | bip | yeah |
| 00:09.30 | bip | i got it done in a day |
| 00:10.07 | bip | not bad for somebody that wasted about 2 years before gttin aworkin linux ppc install just 3 years ago ;-) |
| 00:12.31 | pahartik | bip: i got my first PowerPC when my brother switched to new PowerPC workstation... almost two years ago |
| 00:14.40 | pahartik | bip: though i had installed Debian on it already |
| 00:19.09 | jaska | bahaha |
| 00:19.16 | jaska | yaboot got entered into freshmeat |
| 00:19.25 | jaska | Environment] MacOS X |
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| 02:05.46 | simonrvn | jaska: wtf. os x? |
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| 09:49.15 | iOops | can I boot from sarge CD 1 on my hard disk whitch root parition (hda5) was on reiserfs ? |
| 09:50.57 | simonrvn | if it's newworld and the kenel has reiserfs support i don't see why not. i question your use of reiserfs, but to each their own i guess |
| 09:55.03 | iOops | humm which option must i specifie to enable reiserfs by yabnoo ? |
| 09:56.07 | RQ | none |
| 09:56.14 | RQ | i guess |
| 09:56.54 | iOops | ok well I can't boot on my liunx, i can reinstall it ? |
| 09:58.15 | simonrvn | i'm not sure if yaboot supports reiserfs or not. it supports most of the common ones AFAIK. |
| 09:58.23 | RQ | you can always reinstall your linux, even if you CAN boot it |
| 09:58.25 | simonrvn | ext2, ext3, xfs, etc. |
| 09:58.27 | RQ | it's up to you |
| 09:58.33 | iOops | ok |
| 09:58.48 | RQ | since when is xfs more common than reiserfs? :} |
| 09:59.38 | simonrvn | ffs, fucking idiots insisting on connecting to a closed port... |
| 10:00.03 | Bor_Ed | not using 'admin' or 'test' on ssh ? :) |
| 10:00.05 | simonrvn | sometimes i wish there was a remote LART you could do |
| 10:00.14 | simonrvn | no, port 37 |
| 10:00.34 | jc-denton | hi all |
| 10:00.36 | Bor_Ed | 37... that should have some service too, right ? |
| 10:00.38 | simonrvn | hi |
| 10:00.53 | jc-denton | is it possible that suspend or something turns 'xset r' off? |
| 10:00.55 | simonrvn | it's time service. usually run from (x)inetd |
| 10:01.11 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 10:01.17 | iOops | the boot device is the partition whitch have 800k ? |
| 10:01.17 | simonrvn | it's *not* ntp |
| 10:01.37 | RQ | what's the point in attacking it? |
| 10:01.49 | simonrvn | RQ: no attack, just annoying |
| 10:02.04 | RQ | hmm |
| 10:02.27 | simonrvn | iOops: the boot device is whichever you boot from |
| 10:02.56 | iOops | what is the bootstrap partition ? |
| 10:03.06 | simonrvn | device refers to the device, not the partition, though on newworld it does include the partition (speaking from an OF PoV) |
| 10:03.29 | simonrvn | bootstrap is where ybin writes its stuff |
| 10:04.09 | simonrvn | and where yaboot reads it from. man yaboot, man bootstrap |
| 10:04.33 | iOops | humm, if in partition manager boot label was write on the bootstrap is correct ? |
| 10:04.59 | simonrvn | eh? |
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| 10:05.51 | simonrvn | i don't think it matters what cfdisk thinks what's bootable or not on macs |
| 10:06.02 | simonrvn | or maybe i'm just braindead |
| 10:06.13 | iOops | simonrvn: continue in french in #-fr please :) |
| 10:06.21 | simonrvn | ok |
| 10:06.21 | RQ | ;]] |
| 10:06.51 | RQ | simonrvn: failing your IQ test, eh? :D |
| 10:07.05 | simonrvn | iq tests are crap |
| 10:07.21 | simonrvn | i sat that as someone who's scored 125 on some |
| 10:07.24 | simonrvn | say* |
| 10:07.49 | RQ | hehe |
| 10:07.58 | RQ | i mean THIS test ;) |
| 10:08.05 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 10:08.30 | RQ | i got 140+, afair... |
| 10:10.23 | simonrvn | i scored crap on the math. i' not good at math |
| 10:10.33 | RQ | hehe |
| 10:10.44 | RQ | maybe you just don't need it.. |
| 10:11.02 | simonrvn | that's prove to be the case most of the time |
| 10:11.05 | simonrvn | proven |
| 10:11.28 | simonrvn | if i was better at math i'd score higher |
| 10:12.05 | RQ | yeah |
| 10:12.18 | RQ | if i was better at C++, i'd have been a programmer :| |
| 10:13.16 | simonrvn | c++ can be learned, being good at something takes practice, and/or natural ability |
| 10:14.05 | simonrvn | my talents lie elsewhere anyway, and i know that. so it doesn't bug me to score low on iq tests |
| 10:14.16 | simonrvn | not much anyway ;) |
| 10:18.44 | RQ | :) |
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| 12:17.22 | Q-FUNK | re |
| 12:25.14 | bip | i have just installed debain on my iBook |
| 12:25.27 | bip | what is the latest kerbel worth gettig ? |
| 12:25.39 | bip | is 2.6.8 a safe bet ? |
| 12:25.51 | bip | or shall i get something older ? |
| 12:26.10 | pahartik | bip: build your own kernel, since you are familiar with Linux |
| 12:26.29 | pahartik | bip: ...and Debian |
| 12:27.49 | pahartik | bip: "apt-get install kernel-package kernel-source-2.6.8" |
| 12:31.30 | pahartik | bip: that kernel version should work, but if it some device drivers you need do not (for some reason), try older Linux 2.6 or Linux 2.4.27 |
| 12:33.01 | pahartik | bip: ...but if some device... |
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| 12:34.28 | bond- | 2.6.8 is broken |
| 12:34.36 | bond- | 2.6.8.1 is the current ? |
| 12:34.38 | bip__ | yeah |
| 12:34.52 | bip__ | i had that feeling ... |
| 12:35.06 | al_ | apt-get install kernel-image-powerpc |
| 12:35.12 | al_ | precompiled kernel |
| 12:35.18 | bip__ | is 2.6.8.1 available with apt-get ? |
| 12:35.24 | pahartik | bond-: but Debian 2.6.8 Linux kernel source package supposedly contains the NFS fix |
| 12:35.37 | pahartik | bond-: or so i have been told |
| 12:35.45 | bip__ | or shal get a 2.6.7 image abd wait ? |
| 12:36.00 | bip__ | s/abd/and |
| 12:37.23 | bond- | pahartik: its stupid to still not call it 2.6.8.1 since thats the versionnumber its released under. |
| 12:37.31 | bond- | Nameing it otherwise just confuses people |
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| 12:46.21 | two-face | hi |
| 12:50.47 | pahartik | bip: Linux 2.6.8(.1) is quite ok, it should work for most persons |
| 12:51.30 | bip__ | well i m apt-gettin 2.6.7 to be safe |
| 12:51.52 | pahartik | bip: i run it on one PowerPC workstation, but two others cannot run it yet |
| 12:52.18 | bip__ | 2.6.7 ? |
| 12:52.31 | two-face | anyone owns a g5 here? |
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| 12:54.42 | pahartik | bip: 2.6.6 is the latest that co-operated with Voodoo 3 on one PowerPC workstation, Advansys SCSI driver has been broken since 2.6.6 or so... DVB drivers have only worked on Linux 2.4... that is all personal experience |
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| 12:55.45 | bip | got a kernel panic ... |
| 12:56.09 | bip | sounds like i m gonna learn some yaboot configd today ;-) |
| 12:56.53 | two-face | how about downloading the kernel image package? |
| 12:57.22 | two-face | i guess this is the case |
| 12:57.24 | bip | i did |
| 12:57.36 | bip | but the new kernel panicked |
| 12:58.08 | bip | ishall i try 2.6.5 maybe ? ;-) |
| 12:58.26 | two-face | no 2.6.8 is fine |
| 12:58.34 | two-face | did you configure the initrd? |
| 12:58.44 | bip | well i got kernel panic with 2.6.7 |
| 12:58.45 | two-face | in yaboot.conf ? |
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| 12:59.08 | two-face | image=/boot/vmlinux-2.6.8-powerpc |
| 12:59.08 | two-face | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.08 | two-face | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.08 | two-face | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.08 | two-face | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.09 | two-face | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.14 | bip | well i thought apt would have taken care of that |
| 12:59.29 | bip | lemme check that file |
| 13:01.14 | nusse | hit them for changing the bootloader in 4g ipod |
| 13:01.48 | two-face | hm? |
| 13:02.44 | two-face | i don't know if they do sell machines at a lower price during these events |
| 13:03.44 | bip | apt-get symlinked the new kernel image ... |
| 13:03.59 | bip | so kernel 2.6.7 doesnt boot on my machine |
| 13:04.33 | bip | what kernel image might be the latest safest bet for my machine pahartik ? |
| 13:04.43 | VP | Hi! I'm very new to linux, and I want to install Debian on G4 (ATI Rage 128). I want to migrate from YDL, but for some time I want to have both OS'es. How do I need to configure dual boot? |
| 13:05.12 | bip | if u want em both yes VP |
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| 13:06.05 | two-face | bip: i have 2.6.8 on my ibook |
| 13:06.50 | bip | white or clamshell iBook two-face ? |
| 13:06.58 | VP | Yes want for some time. |
| 13:07.16 | bip | from kernel.org or from debian mirrors two-face ? |
| 13:07.39 | two-face | bip: white |
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| 13:07.46 | two-face | bip: debian |
| 13:07.55 | bip | ok thanx |
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| 13:08.02 | bip | i m apt-gettin it |
| 13:08.13 | bip | wish me luck two-face ;-) |
| 13:08.16 | two-face | bip: you just have to configure yaboot like i showed you |
| 13:08.29 | two-face | bip: almost out-of-the-box |
| 13:08.55 | bip | nah apt-get will add the symink i have checked two-face ;-) |
| 13:09.03 | bip | symlink |
| 13:09.11 | bip | sorry my spelling sucks ;-) |
| 13:09.58 | two-face | bip: apt-get adds nothing, it is the package |
| 13:10.20 | bip | well it ask at the end of apt-getting ... |
| 13:10.40 | bip | believe me even if this is my first ppc debian install ... |
| 13:11.01 | bip | i have been running it for a while on other archs ;-) |
| 13:11.09 | two-face | what is the pb with the symlink? |
| 13:11.16 | bip | no prob at all |
| 13:11.33 | bip | it just symlink the latest kernel to vmlinuz |
| 13:11.45 | bip | no need to manually edit yaboot.conf |
| 13:11.54 | two-face | ok |
| 13:12.20 | two-face | but you need to rerun ybin |
| 13:12.31 | bip | maybe |
| 13:13.06 | two-face | surely |
| 13:13.09 | bip | well i have go aprob now |
| 13:13.21 | bip | i have to boot image |
| 13:13.29 | bip | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.40 | bip | one symlinked to 2.6.8 |
| 13:13.46 | bip | which doesnt boot |
| 13:14.06 | bip | and one symlinked to 2.6.7 which doesn boot too ... |
| 13:14.19 | bip | sound like i need to boot from a cd ... |
| 13:14.30 | bip | and try to fix it somehow ;-) |
| 13:14.41 | two-face | what if you run ybin? |
| 13:15.14 | bip | from a machine that doesnt boot two-face ? |
| 13:16.12 | two-face | but the installed boots, doesn't it? |
| 13:16.17 | two-face | installer |
| 13:17.06 | bip | the installer does |
| 13:17.15 | bip | i have just booted from it ... |
| 13:17.28 | bip | i m just checkin if it offer a rescue option |
| 13:17.29 | pahartik | bip: try the latest kernel by default... if that does not work, one before that... |
| 13:17.45 | bip | they don t work boot pahartik |
| 13:18.00 | bip | and now i have a machine that doesnt boot pahartik :-( |
| 13:18.08 | bip | s/boot/both |
| 13:18.48 | bip | does sarge installer have a resue mode pahartik ? |
| 13:18.55 | bip | rescue |
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| 13:19.32 | pahartik | bip: i never used "yaboot" but... nothing supposedly happened to your functional kernel... just boot that one? |
| 13:20.01 | bip | well it got erased from yaboot.conf pahartik |
| 13:20.17 | bip | apparently at boot time i only have 2 choilces: |
| 13:20.21 | pahartik | bip: and sure you can use shell on Sarge installer, it is at virtual console 2 |
| 13:20.23 | bip | Linux and old |
| 13:20.46 | bip | Linux is symlinked to 2.6.8 |
| 13:20.56 | bip | and old to 2.6.7 |
| 13:21.08 | bip | and both don t boot :-( |
| 13:22.23 | pahartik | bip: to boot kernel... something like "/boot/vmlinux-2.6.8.1 root=/dev/<your-root-device>" |
| 13:23.04 | bip | ok |
| 13:23.06 | two-face | I've heard there were no drivers for airport extreme on powerbooks |
| 13:23.09 | bip | i ll try |
| 13:23.38 | bip | can i pass that as boot ime option pahartik ? |
| 13:27.08 | pahartik | bip: right syntax should be described here: http://penguinppc.org/projects/yaboot/doc/yaboot-howto.shtml/ch9.en.shtml#s9.3 |
| 13:27.40 | pahartik | bip: just found it, never tried to look for "yaboot" documentation before... |
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| 13:48.35 | bighawk | heey, does the sleep function work yet on the ibook g4 with linux-2.6? (the radeon wakeup issue) |
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