| 00:00.03 | Exasparilla | Curalton: Ok - /etc/adjtime wasn't all zeros, but I just installed adjtimex last night to try to solve this. |
| 00:00.38 | Exasparilla | what should adjtimex -p look like? |
| 00:00.40 | Exasparilla | just to make sure I'm not slowing it down :) |
| 00:01.16 | Exasparilla | I lost 5 minutes in the last 20 |
| 00:01.18 | Curalton | adjtime, i dont need that for anything |
| 00:08.15 | Exasparilla | Curalton: doesn't /etc/adjtime just say how far forward or back to set the *hardware* clock? |
| 00:09.35 | Curalton | yes. and adjtimex is for gradually shifting time if you have to reset it to not confuse programs |
| 00:10.50 | Exasparilla | Curalton: Ok. That's what I thought. |
| 00:11.22 | Curalton | software clock should always be "in tune" |
| 00:11.24 | Exasparilla | Is this a known thing? My computer iBook does this in 2.4.25-ben1, 2.6.7-powerpc and 2.6.8 |
| 00:12.44 | Curalton | not occurred to me |
| 00:12.51 | Exasparilla | Mine's not, though. I've lost another minute here just talking here. |
| 00:13.55 | Exasparilla | Since the clock is interrupt driven, not as many interrupts per second are happening as the kernel thinks there should be? |
| 00:14.24 | Curalton | phew, got me there. might be.... |
| 00:14.25 | pahartik | Exasparilla: and this was the case even before you installed "adjtimex"? |
| 00:14.43 | Exasparilla | pahartik: Yep |
| 00:15.06 | Exasparilla | I tried installing adjtimex to see if I could manually speed it up. It helps, but adjtimex can only speed +-10% |
| 00:15.36 | Exasparilla | it's gone now |
| 00:16.10 | pahartik | Exasparilla: clocks on my PowerPC hosts drift between 0,5 seconds per hour to 0,05 seconds per hour... |
| 00:17.43 | Exasparilla | pahartik: Oh, if only I drifted that little. I drift 10 to 20 minutes an hour, unless there's load. Then it's more. |
| 00:17.43 | pahartik | Exasparilla: "ntpdate" on crontab helps... but maybe you should use "ntp"? |
| 00:18.50 | pahartik | Exasparilla: load is usually at least one, since they run "setiathome" on otherwise unused CPU cycles |
| 00:20.40 | Exasparilla | here's another thing: the debian adjtimexconfig program is supposed to take 70 secs to run, but it runs forever (or at least longer than I can wait) on my machine. |
| 00:34.59 | peterrooney | My tty1 console is dropping <CR> from <CR><LF>, and is often missing the first letter of input when I type in a command (my shell is bash). Up-arrow (command history) sometimes gives me '[A' the first time I press it. The problems seem completely confined to tty1. |
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| 00:37.51 | pahartik | peterrooney: that is serial port feature |
| 00:40.33 | peterrooney | pahartik: Pardon my ignorance, but...huh? Losing input is a feature? |
| 00:41.36 | thebug | peterrooney: not using flow control perhaps? |
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| 00:44.56 | peterrooney | thebug: what's really rattling my noodle is that it's only happening on the one virtual console. I don't know what 'flow control' is outside of imperative programming language terminology. |
| 00:45.14 | thebug | that's -really- strange |
| 00:46.33 | pahartik | peterrooney: damn, i thought about serial port |
| 00:48.29 | peterrooney | looking at man 3 tcflow, i see mention of constant ICRNL which seems related. |
| 00:49.10 | pahartik | peterrooney: you probably have something else running and grabbing characters from "/dev/tty1" |
| 00:49.26 | peterrooney | "translate carriage return to newline on input (unless IGNCR is set)" |
| 00:49.52 | pahartik | peterrooney: happened to me as well, maybe 6 years ago... |
| 00:50.35 | peterrooney | pahartik: could X possibly do that? I've tried waiting a few moments after switching to Ctrl-Alt-F1. |
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| 00:52.01 | pahartik | peterrooney: i think it had something to do with how "pppd" was started... but any application could do that, try "lsof | grep /dev/tty1"? |
| 00:52.27 | peterrooney | I can't think of any odd services I'm running in the background ... lpr, cron, xfs, xfs-tt... |
| 00:52.37 | peterrooney | pahartik: 10-4. will try. |
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| 00:59.16 | peterrooney | pahartik: and of course, in the past 6 hours, it |
| 01:00.04 | peterrooney | pahartik: whoops. and of course, now that i'be been given a helpful suggestion, it's not displaying the behaviour. |
| 01:00.27 | peterrooney | pahartik: Murphy's a rat bastard, i guess. :) |
| 01:01.15 | thebug | ain't that always the truth ... |
| 01:01.43 | paquin | hi, all! Saw that I am banned from debian channel, what can I do to remove the ban? tnx |
| 01:02.11 | thebug | not do what ever it is you did? |
| 01:05.10 | pahartik | peterrooney: if that happens again, remember to use "lsof"? |
| 01:06.19 | peterrooney | paquin: read the topic, and _all_ the webpages listed in it. even the boring ones. then lurk for a few days. |
| 01:07.00 | peterrooney | pahartik: you bet. I had not even thought of the possibility of another process grabbing the input. |
| 01:07.01 | pahartik | peterrooney: if that background application that causes this problem did restart itself, it probably ended up in another terminal... or if it did quit, problem disappeared for now |
| 01:07.04 | paquin | peterrooney: ok! |
| 01:08.08 | peterrooney | paquin: at least you were not k-lined. then you wouldn't even be able to ask us. |
| 01:09.14 | paquin | peterrooney: this is my first connection after a 20 days period of vacation... A nice surprise for me :) |
| 01:09.18 | peterrooney | paquin: Sunday is usually the best day to lurk on #debian. It's better than cable TV. |
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| 01:16.36 | paquin_ | Have a nice sunday... :) |
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| 07:05.42 | saintiss | hi |
| 07:05.56 | saintiss | does anyone know how to get an imac flat panel working with dpms? |
| 07:06.09 | saintiss | xset dpms force off |
| 07:06.15 | saintiss | that just gives me a pink screen |
| 07:06.34 | saintiss | I've got Option "DPMS" in XF86Config-4 though |
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| 09:15.06 | bond- | hmm |
| 09:15.17 | bond- | does anyone know how that unrar thingy works in debian? |
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| 09:19.00 | al_ | bond-, the free one : unrar x archive.rar |
| 09:20.09 | bond- | al: no its not :/ |
| 09:20.29 | Piru | the free unrar doesn't work well I'm afraid |
| 09:20.32 | bond- | its not the rarsoft thingy in debian ppc, its Ben Asselstine |
| 09:20.38 | bond- | and it sucks |
| 09:20.42 | Piru | the one in non-free hasn't let me down so far |
| 09:20.55 | bond- | is there a non-free for debian ppc ? |
| 09:21.14 | Piru | apt-cache search perhaps? |
| 09:21.18 | al_ | yep, it's a 0.0.1 |
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| 09:21.37 | bond- | ah.. i cant get that one to work |
| 09:21.43 | Piru | unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files |
| 09:21.43 | Piru | unrar-nonfree - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) |
| 09:22.31 | bond- | piru: dont have tha one |
| 09:22.55 | saintiss | hi... ok, this might be a tricky question: dpms doesn't seem to work on my flat panel... I just get a pink screen, instead of it turning off with xset dpms force off |
| 09:23.45 | bond- | Piru. solved it. thanks |
| 09:24.13 | Piru | anyway, unrar had serious pbs here, so I use unrar-nonfree |
| 09:24.29 | bond- | yup.. unrar-nonfree is the one i usualy use |
| 09:24.42 | bond- | never had any problems with it :) |
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| 10:46.29 | Garp | hi |
| 10:48.19 | Garp | ibook G4: trying to suspend my system. I patched 2.6.8 (debian) with pmdisk, when I try it start freezing, but stop saying "pmdisk: not supported with high-or discontinuing- mem" . Where should I look ? Thanks. |
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| 11:02.01 | saintiss | dpms doesn't seem to work on my flat panel... I just get a pink screen, instead of it turning off with xset dpms force off |
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