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| 00:36.46 | malenfant | hello. Attempting to use IBM's JDK (latest version) on a G4, but running java or javac on anything gives me an illegal instruction, which spews out a java core dump |
| 00:37.07 | malenfant | has anyone seen anything like this? (using newer iBook) |
| 00:40.47 | malenfant | bah... nevermind, found ml post that recommended 'export JITC_PROCESSOR_TYPE=6' |
| 00:40.54 | malenfant | this fixed the problem :-) |
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| 03:00.53 | emp | what do i need to install so the linux sound mixing works? |
| 03:02.55 | Rn | 'alsa-tools' ? |
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| 03:04.48 | emp | ahh ok, I see alsa-utils, i'll try that.. thanks |
| 03:13.52 | scotth | I have a quick hardware question, has anyone ever heard of any mac(particularly ibook g4) losing its harddrive completely... as in open firmware can't find it to boot and live cd's say that the machine doesn't have a harddrive but then a few hours later I boot it up with the apple hardware diagnostic cd the harddrive reappears and everything is fine... anyone ever heard of that happening? |
| 03:15.10 | chrisa | Welcome to Apple hardware |
| 03:15.35 | scotth | so thats normal? |
| 03:15.35 | chrisa | Careful, if you bring it in to have it fixed it may come back to you more broken than before |
| 03:15.56 | chrisa | and they'll probably blame any obvious production defects on you |
| 03:16.02 | scotth | wow... just wow... thats so special |
| 03:16.08 | chrisa | oh, and I'm bitter and jaded. You should talk to simonrvn |
| 03:16.11 | chrisa | He's still happy |
| 03:16.56 | scotth | well I was happy untill that happened... but it has made me a backup nazi... so I guess thats a good thing |
| 03:17.45 | scotth | btw, that funroll-loops.org stuff is halarious |
| 03:19.27 | simonrvn | chrisa: *you're* bitter and jaded? heh |
| 03:19.47 | chrisa | simonrvn: shush you! |
| 03:20.36 | simonrvn | try me |
| 03:20.40 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 03:20.48 | scotth | ooo ooo!!! FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!! |
| 03:20.53 | *** mode/#debianppc [+o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 03:20.57 | simonrvn | you'll lose |
| 03:21.00 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 03:21.03 | *** mode/#debianppc [-o simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 03:21.18 | emp | how do i enable the headphone channel, vs just using master (in alsa?) |
| 03:21.55 | simonrvn | alsamixer; btw, that's just headphone detect, not volume |
| 03:23.29 | emp | when i'm in alsamixer, and have Headphone selected.. it doesn't let me change anything and under Item it has "Headphone Detection [Off]" |
| 03:24.09 | scotth | are the headphones plugged in? |
| 03:24.27 | simonrvn | you in audio group? the file perms in /dev/snd ok? are the headphones in? |
| 03:24.45 | simonrvn | ok == root:audio, 0660 |
| 03:24.49 | emp | oh, it was "mutted" for the [Off] but it still doesn't let me change it.. |
| 03:25.09 | simonrvn | there's a toggle, hit F1 |
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| 03:25.19 | simonrvn | (for the help i think) |
| 03:26.14 | simonrvn | ah yeh, go to the headphones, hit 'm' |
| 03:26.26 | simonrvn | it'll toggle them to on |
| 03:27.25 | emp | yeah, /dev/snd looks fine |
| 03:27.38 | chrisa | The day is mine! |
| 03:27.39 | simonrvn | hey! :P |
| 03:27.45 | simonrvn | hehehe |
| 03:28.07 | simonrvn | @jab chrisa |
| 03:28.31 | scotth | that was underhanded and dirty... I like it |
| 03:28.36 | simonrvn | @jab $1 is <action>jabs $1 in the eye with a toothpick |
| 03:28.36 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 03:29.10 | simonrvn | @no jab $1 is <action>jabs $1 in the eye with a (toothpick|feather|air hose|water sprinkler) |
| 03:29.11 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 03:29.24 | simonrvn | yet another useless factoid! |
| 03:29.29 | chrisa | uh oh, he's arming the bot |
| 03:29.40 | simonrvn | @jab chrisa |
| 03:29.50 | simonrvn | hrm |
| 03:30.06 | simonrvn | @no jab $1 is <action>jabs $1 in the eye with (a toothpick|a feather|an air hose|a water sprinkler) |
| 03:30.06 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
| 03:30.17 | chrisa | @jab simonrvn |
| 03:30.35 | scotth | those are some formidable weapons |
| 03:30.58 | chrisa | We only aim for the eyes |
| 03:31.02 | simonrvn | @no jab $1 is <action>jabs $1 in the eye with (a toothpick|a feather|an air hose|a water sprinkler|a power word "nuke") |
| 03:31.02 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 03:31.36 | simonrvn | "somebody stop me!" |
| 03:32.03 | simonrvn | @jab chrisa |
| 03:32.08 | chrisa | ow |
| 03:32.26 | chrisa | I'm sure that's against both 2nd and 3rd ED rules |
| 03:32.43 | simonrvn | yeh, i'll remove it |
| 03:32.56 | simonrvn | @no jab $1 is <action>jabs $1 in the eye with (a toothpick|a feather|an air hose|a water sprinkler) |
| 03:32.57 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 03:33.26 | scotth | ED rules? |
| 03:33.51 | simonrvn | laws of robotics |
| 03:34.06 | scotth | no clue |
| 03:34.19 | simonrvn | isaac asimov? |
| 03:34.30 | simonrvn | AI? |
| 03:34.40 | scotth | oh ok |
| 03:34.45 | simonrvn | the robot series.. |
| 03:34.59 | scotth | yeah... still no clue what ED stands for but I know what your talking about |
| 03:35.06 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 03:37.14 | GregorR | So ... anybody ever had an issue with the Debian installer on an olde PPC (using the kernel from http://nubus-ppc.sf.net/ ) freezing during mkfs.ext2 ? |
| 03:37.24 | simonrvn | no |
| 03:37.42 | scotth | what kinda olde ppc? |
| 03:38.00 | GregorR | A PowerBook Duo 2300c prototype |
| 03:38.37 | scotth | no clue |
| 03:38.48 | scotth | send in a bug report? |
| 03:39.03 | GregorR | It's on 5/6 too X-D |
| 03:43.49 | emp | is there a java deb for sarge or do i need to get it from the IBM tarball? |
| 03:44.42 | scotth | black down has ppc debs |
| 03:45.59 | scotth | deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian/ unstable main non-free |
| 03:46.10 | scotth | that should work, but be aware the site is very slow |
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| 03:51.37 | emp | is that just java 1.3 ? should i be worried about getting 1.4 ? |
| 03:53.00 | scotth | I have 1.3 installed... but I don't do much java |
| 03:55.49 | Sam-I-Am | sup folks |
| 03:56.31 | simonrvn | my hair |
| 03:56.57 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 03:58.38 | Sam-I-Am | been a long day |
| 03:58.52 | simonrvn | slow saturdays... |
| 04:00.06 | Sam-I-Am | i was @work all day |
| 04:03.08 | simonrvn | icky |
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| 04:03.45 | Sam-I-Am | yeah |
| 04:03.58 | Sam-I-Am | ups became an ips so it needed to get replaced |
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| 04:09.43 | mick_laptop | emp: did you ever submit the config for your powermac 9600 (http://ppcconfdb.sourceforge.net) |
| 04:09.50 | mick_laptop | we talked 2 days ago |
| 04:10.55 | emp | mick_laptop, wow was it 2 days? eep... what do i need to run makedb? |
| 04:11.07 | mick_laptop | yup |
| 04:11.32 | mick_laptop | from my logs... [10/8/04 10:21 PM] <emp> powermac 9600 :) |
| 04:11.35 | simonrvn | Sam-I-Am: heh, 'IPS'. too bad though |
| 04:11.39 | mick_laptop | :) |
| 04:11.56 | Sam-I-Am | yeah |
| 04:12.10 | emp | ahh well that was only 1 day ago ;) Yeah I lost the url.. my log wasn't big enough... |
| 04:12.11 | Sam-I-Am | had to power everything off, replace it, and bring everything back up again |
| 04:12.45 | emp | I did find out what the problem was.. and i'm not sure, but you would probibly want to make a note of it... is the PCI card has to be in the PCI host(?) 0 |
| 04:12.46 | simonrvn | easy shit, though annoying having to get behind the desk (j/k) |
| 04:13.03 | emp | the vgahw module (i think) is hardcoded... |
| 04:13.47 | mick_laptop | emp: now == Oct 10 12:13 am |
| 04:13.51 | mick_laptop | :) |
| 04:14.45 | mick_laptop | emp: http://ppcconfdb.sourceforge.net/programs/make-db/make-db |
| 04:14.51 | emp | I still have a couple hours ;) |
| 04:15.04 | mick_laptop | heh |
| 04:17.23 | emp | is there a place i can put a note (about the PCI slots) or will you add that? |
| 04:17.51 | mick_laptop | after you run the script, it goes on about what to do |
| 04:17.58 | mick_laptop | for "extra notes" |
| 04:18.22 | mick_laptop | if you think something is missing in the script, let me know or send me a diff |
| 04:18.39 | mick_laptop | i accept patches :) |
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| 04:25.04 | emp | can you send attachments with mail from the command line? |
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| 04:36.24 | mick_laptop | emp: what do you mean? |
| 04:36.33 | mick_laptop | sorry for the late responce |
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| 04:44.16 | emp | mick_laptop, oh, nevermind.. i was just trying to send from the command line :) |
| 04:45.27 | mick_laptop | oh, submit a bug (if you could) |
| 04:45.33 | mick_laptop | i should add that |
| 04:46.52 | mick_laptop | thanks, i got the file |
| 04:47.48 | emp | cool! :) |
| 04:49.55 | emp | when i get done with my 9600... i have lots of oldworld machines... 61/71/8100.. 72/73/75/76/86/96... but they are very much the same... oh but i have a PB 2400c I should pull out and update... that uses a chips driver.. |
| 04:52.50 | emp | what and where do i need to add info for java to find it's needed files... /etc/profile doesn't seem to cut it |
| 04:53.44 | mick_laptop | submit anything (enhancements/bugs) to the bugtracker |
| 04:55.05 | mick_laptop | you can add extra info to the README file for now |
| 04:55.32 | mick_laptop | emp: that would be awsome if you could add any of those oldworld macs |
| 04:55.38 | emp | yep, I added a little in the readme |
| 04:55.45 | mick_laptop | cool |
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