| 00:18.57 | uzi | hey, any of you guys play with kgbd on a ppc with a 2.4.x kernel? |
| 00:19.09 | uzi | s/kgbd/kgdb/ |
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| 00:23.30 | GOTH | is the tibook's modems supported by debian |
| 00:24.11 | simonrvn | it's a winmodem effectively. good fucking luck |
| 00:24.30 | GOTH | r u for real? |
| 00:25.05 | GOTH | gawd damn u would think they wouldnt use windoze so much |
| 00:25.18 | GOTH | but does the wireless card work? |
| 00:25.30 | simonrvn | no, in this case it's not an *actual* winmodem |
| 00:25.39 | GOTH | ok |
| 00:25.42 | simonrvn | i said "effectively" |
| 00:25.51 | simonrvn | as in, they are software modems |
| 00:26.02 | GOTH | ok |
| 00:26.13 | GOTH | i c i never got that winmodem shit |
| 00:26.23 | simonrvn | and about as hard to set up as a winmodem |
| 00:26.24 | arcady | not all are I think |
| 00:26.31 | GOTH | but the wifi would work under debian |
| 00:26.42 | arcady | my ibook modem is a plain serial modem |
| 00:26.51 | simonrvn | airport yes, airport extreme no |
| 00:27.00 | arcady | you might have some luck with older tibooks |
| 00:27.01 | simonrvn | arcady: well those aren't fucked :) |
| 00:27.02 | GOTH | ~sigh |
| 00:27.04 | apt | *sigh* |
| 00:27.45 | GOTH | lol |
| 00:27.59 | simonrvn | @sigh |
| 00:28.00 | ravenbird | methinks sigh is we are living hard times pal |
| 00:29.25 | uzi | or any kernel debugger with a ppc for that matter... |
| 00:29.48 | arcady | uzi not really |
| 00:30.06 | arcady | I tried doing something with xmon once or twice |
| 00:30.56 | GOTH | ok well if i put debian on a tibook how hard would it be to get the drivers? |
| 00:31.05 | arcady | drivers for what? |
| 00:31.25 | GOTH | cuz i tried it a long time ago with mdk on a pc and couldnt get it to work |
| 00:31.27 | GOTH | the modem |
| 00:31.37 | GOTH | airport extreme |
| 00:31.50 | arcady | airport extreme: no driver exists for linux |
| 00:32.01 | arcady | no open source driver will exist for the forseeable future |
| 00:32.12 | arcady | barring such events as the collapse of the US |
| 00:32.20 | uzi | arcady: arcady xmon -- is that a jtag debugger like a bdi or something? |
| 00:32.38 | arcady | xmon is what you get when you do Cmd-Power |
| 00:32.51 | GOTH | so if i got a new tibook and put debian on it i couldnt get online? |
| 00:32.53 | arcady | and sucks about as much as the MacOS equivalent |
| 00:33.06 | arcady | GOTH there's always ethernet |
| 00:33.20 | GOTH | but i want wifi |
| 00:33.26 | arcady | buy a wifi card |
| 00:33.32 | arcady | there are many that linux supports |
| 00:33.34 | uzi | arcady: ahh |
| 00:33.40 | arcady | there are also many that linux does not support |
| 00:33.40 | GOTH | ooooo ok |
| 00:33.46 | arcady | notably hte rtl8180 chipset |
| 00:33.48 | GOTH | lol |
| 00:34.03 | arcady | watch out because nobody tells you what's actually inside the card |