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| 00:46.05 | denken | is backlight control on pbook g4 12"'s known to be working with pbbuttonsd ? |
| 00:46.22 | denken | i am probably doing something wrong but i cant figure out why it wont work... |
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| 01:08.00 | zadigre | anyone has a config file for kernel 2.6.x that can works with a Powermac 7300? |
| 01:09.17 | zadigre | I tried a few time to compile a kernel for my powermac, but I can not get it to boot... |
| 01:13.15 | zadigre | ... 2.4.27 from debian works fine but it does not seem to support sound on my powermac |
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| 01:23.18 | zadigre | I also want to use a preemptible kernel... so I think I have to use 2.6.x for this... |
| 01:23.39 | zadigre | danamania: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 01:26.54 | danamania | I used to compile nubus kernels on my iMac for a 6100 that was too underpowered to do it itself. |
| 01:27.40 | denken | danamania: make sure that the dma_sound module is loaded |
| 01:27.48 | denken | sound should work fine under 2.4 |
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| 01:33.49 | simonrvn | hopefully that bios upgrade will help |
| 01:34.11 | simonrvn | set up the scsi cable slightly differently, too |
| 01:34.35 | denken | mmm scsi voodoo |
| 01:34.49 | simonrvn | :D |
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| 01:55.49 | randyg | I hate scsi voodoo. :P |
| 01:55.56 | simonrvn | easy stuff :) |
| 01:56.21 | denken | bah. i grew up with scsi. |
| 01:56.37 | randyg | I've had way too many randomnesses with scsi, even when properly terminated |
| 01:56.45 | randyg | I grew up with MFM/RLE. :P |
| 01:57.12 | randyg | rll |
| 01:57.25 | denken | danamania: quadras *were* a bit finicky, ill give you that |
| 01:57.56 | simonrvn | danamania: q800 is the wierdest |
| 01:58.19 | danamania | simonrvn: C650 is virtually a Q800, so yeah - I'm with you there :) |
| 01:58.23 | simonrvn | yup. don't use a quadra to learn scsi on ;) |
| 01:58.42 | denken | iifx was a weird beast too |
| 01:58.47 | simonrvn | damn these earphones suck. no sub-woofer |
| 01:58.52 | denken | didnt it take a special terminator? |
| 01:59.09 | simonrvn | active iirc |
| 01:59.39 | denken | if it had any scsi problems at all, you got the sick mac with the chimes of death :) |
| 02:00.04 | danamania | the spesh black terminator. *cue T2 theme* |
| 02:00.13 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 02:12.52 | Tenniru | I'm trying to start X, but the config file is unlocatable/unfindable by the thing. |
| 02:13.07 | simonrvn | ls -l /etc/X11/XF* |
| 02:13.12 | Tenniru | I tried running the config, but the problem is still present. |
| 02:13.17 | randyg | tried running xf86config? |
| 02:13.20 | randyg | ah |
| 02:13.27 | simonrvn | randyg: no. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:13.36 | Tenniru | I did. |
| 02:13.45 | chrisa | Both methods are the devil |
| 02:13.50 | chrisa | The best configuration method is `vim` |
| 02:14.08 | simonrvn | i use the latter for the basic stuff, then edit at will. saves typing |
| 02:14.17 | randyg | simonrvn: that method always looses all my settings. xf86config is smart enough to read the file first. :P |
| 02:14.57 | simonrvn | then there's Xautoconfig from penguinppc.org. does a decent job |
| 02:15.01 | Tenniru | I ran the dpkg thing. |
| 02:15.08 | Tenniru | I can't start X. |
| 02:15.18 | simonrvn | did you ls the dir yet? |
| 02:15.35 | randyg | I usually let dpkg generate the default file, then edit it by hand... no configurator I've seen has 1/10th the options you need to make X work right. |
| 02:15.44 | Tenniru | Yes |
| 02:16.06 | Tenniru | The file is there... |
| 02:16.10 | simonrvn | Tenniru: google for some confs, i'm sure there's at least a few you can try |
| 02:16.15 | Tenniru | But startx won't... start X. |
| 02:16.22 | simonrvn | just make sure it's the same name, etc. |
| 02:16.31 | simonrvn | read the log |
| 02:16.46 | randyg | anything in /var/log/X*? |
| 02:17.07 | Tenniru | Yes |
| 02:17.22 | Tenniru | got it |
| 02:17.25 | simonrvn | /EE |
| 02:17.34 | randyg | and what's the first line that starts with EE's instead of the non-fatal messages? |
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| 02:17.50 | Tenniru | Unable to locate/open config file |
| 02:17.56 | simonrvn | then hit n (this is if you're using less or vim) |
| 02:18.10 | Tenniru | I'm using PICO. |
| 02:18.21 | randyg | do you have an /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? |
| 02:18.26 | Tenniru | Yes. |
| 02:18.36 | randyg | what file does it say it can't open? |
| 02:18.50 | Tenniru | Just "Unable to locate/open config file". |
| 02:18.56 | randyg | hrmm |
| 02:19.05 | Tenniru | Then "Error from xf86HandleConfigFile()". |
| 02:19.10 | randyg | strace it? |
| 02:19.17 | farruinn | This isn't exactly debian related, but does anyone know of any resources for using apple's openfirmware? I was doing a linux install (ubuntu) and it did some stuff with my OF so now OF opens every time I boot. Resetting the PRAM hasn't helped and I've taken the battery out for up to 20 minutes. Any suggestions? |
| 02:19.19 | Tenniru | Fatal server error: no screens found |
| 02:19.22 | Tenniru | Strace? |
| 02:19.32 | simonrvn | sudo strace -o /tmp/trace X |
| 02:19.45 | Tenniru | I'm already root. |
| 02:19.52 | simonrvn | whatever |
| 02:19.52 | randyg | don't run X as root |
| 02:19.59 | farruinn | I'm using an oldworld mac btw |
| 02:20.26 | simonrvn | randyg: startx no or gdm or whatever |
| 02:20.42 | simonrvn | (or an active .xsession file ;) |
| 02:20.51 | randyg | simonrvn: ? |
| 02:20.58 | simonrvn | chrisa: beats me. |
| 02:21.01 | simonrvn | randyg: nm |
| 02:21.33 | Tenniru | (my name) is not in the sudoers fille. This incident will be reported. |
| 02:21.54 | Tenniru | My iBook is and always has been posessed by Stalin. It NEVER, EVER works right for me... |
| 02:22.17 | simonrvn | that's normal. relax |
| 02:22.30 | randyg | lol |
| 02:22.31 | farruinn | Maybe you guys could help - I tried installing a linux distro (ubuntu) on my oldworld mac, but the distro is really designed for newworld macs and yaboot, not oldworld+bootx. So, it messed with my OF and now I can't boot to the existing OS X partition on my harddrive. |
| 02:22.40 | farruinn | damnit, wrong channel, sorry guys |
| 02:23.00 | Tenniru | WARNING YOU TRIED TO DO SOMETHING I WILL NOW REPORT IT TO YOURSELF |
| 02:23.05 | Tenniru | (as myself) NO REPORT |
| 02:23.14 | Tenniru | Crazy. |
| 02:23.19 | denken | farruinn: google for "apple open firmware reference" and youll get a ton of links |
| 02:24.12 | denken | farruinn: depending on the version of OF, you can issue "reset-nvram", "set-defaults" and "reset-all" |
| 02:24.19 | Tenniru | What do I do? |
| 02:24.39 | denken | farruinn: old world mac have some, uh, interesting versions of open firmware though :) |
| 02:24.46 | denken | s/mac/macs |
| 02:25.18 | denken | farruinn: if you just want ot boot your Mac OS, try "mac-boot" |
| 02:28.17 | Tenniru | I'm trying to get this strace thing to work... |
| 02:28.32 | Tenniru | Sudo just has my iBook go "Big Brother" on me. |
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| 02:28.54 | chrisa | Because you haven't added yourself to /etc/sudoers |
| 02:29.15 | Tenniru | How do I do this? |
| 02:30.04 | chrisa | man sudoers |
| 02:31.17 | Tenniru | It succeeds at being really log and I can't find what I need. |
| 02:31.26 | Tenniru | *long |
| 02:31.41 | denken | oh my... |
| 02:32.08 | simonrvn | "They can't believe they're going on a disney world vacation! I Can't either, are they sick?!" |
| 02:32.23 | Tenniru | And if that isn't enough... how do I turn this manual off? |
| 02:32.33 | denken | Tenniru: so what are you saying? you dont have time to do what your trying to do? |
| 02:32.40 | denken | Tenniru: man man |
| 02:32.44 | Tenniru | No... |
| 02:32.51 | simonrvn | man woman |
| 02:32.56 | Tenniru | I just can't find how to add a user to a sudoers list. |
| 02:33.02 | simonrvn | or man man, if you're into that |
| 02:33.05 | Tenniru | This manual is huge. |
| 02:33.20 | denken | Tenniru: looks like we know what youll be doing for while then huh? |
| 02:33.25 | simonrvn | Tenniru: cp the root entry there and add your user. then fix it properly after. visudo |
| 02:33.43 | Tenniru | How do I get out of the manual, though? |
| 02:34.02 | Tenniru | I'm trapped! |
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| 02:34.23 | simonrvn | h for help |
| 02:34.34 | denken | "No manual entry for woman"... |
| 02:34.37 | denken | apt-get install woman? |
| 02:34.53 | simonrvn | @+sex |
| 02:34.54 | ravenbird | it has been said that sex is updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 02:35.41 | Tenniru | Humor. |
| 02:39.41 | Tenniru | Now I can't get OUT of visudo. |
| 02:40.00 | simonrvn | :wq |
| 02:43.37 | chrisa | I've never understood the purpose of visudo |
| 02:46.13 | Tenniru | Edit the sudoers. |
| 02:46.25 | chrisa | Yes, but any text editor can do that |
| 02:46.33 | Tenniru | Yeah. |
| 02:47.02 | denken | visudo will complain if there is a syntax error |
| 02:47.18 | randyg | ravenbird: but that sounds rather boring... where's the strap-ons and other fun toys? :P |
| 02:47.19 | ravenbird | You are moron #1, randyg |
| 02:47.47 | randyg | ravenbird: hmm, if I put ravenbird: in front of something, it gets stupid responses? :P |
| 02:47.48 | ravenbird | You are moron #2, randyg |
| 02:48.16 | Tenniru | Urg. If man sudoers tells me how to let a user do anything as root, I can't see where it does. |
| 02:48.34 | chrisa | Just copy root's line |
| 02:48.36 | chrisa | Edit the username |
| 02:49.41 | Tenniru | Huh? |
| 02:49.47 | Tenniru | Where is the root's line? |
| 02:50.01 | Tenniru | Oh, wait. |
| 02:50.11 | Tenniru | ...Now, how do I insert? |
| 02:50.23 | Tenniru | I hate vi. |
| 02:52.55 | Tenniru | Okay, I just riddled it with syntax errors. When it asks "What now" how do I make it quit but don't save? |
| 02:53.30 | randyg | :q! |
| 02:54.05 | Tenniru | With the exclamation mark? (I know it's unlikely, but vi is so weird I can't risk anything.) |
| 02:54.14 | randyg | with |
| 02:54.48 | Tenniru | Good thing I asked that... |
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| 02:55.03 | Tenniru | Okay. Now how do insert? :insert? |
| 02:55.09 | chrisa | i |
| 02:55.17 | randyg | :q is quit, but if the file is unsaved, it will complain. the ! forces it to quit even with unsaved data. |
| 02:55.22 | chrisa | fuck, just exit the program and use an editor you know |
| 02:55.35 | randyg | I suspect nano will be more to your liking... |
| 02:55.44 | Tenniru | I thought it was visudo-specific. |
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| 02:56.38 | Tenniru | I use nano (pico) all the time. |
| 02:57.05 | Tenniru | It's my favorite text editor for writing stories (something I do a lot). Harder to get distracted, as it is in Appleworks or TextEdit. |
| 02:57.20 | Tenniru | (I use OS X on my PowerMac... it's just too bloated on the iBook) |
| 02:57.52 | chrisa | I use vim/gvim for everything |
| 02:57.58 | chrisa | Papers, coding, configs, etc |
| 02:58.39 | denken | vim rocks |
| 02:58.58 | randyg | I haven't yet found an editor I like... so I use vim or nano depending on what would be easiest for the file. and emacs is too bloated and slow to be good for much of anything. (but simonrvn said no religious debate here, so I won't argue editors. :) |
| 02:59.35 | simonrvn | vim/gvim here. nano-tiny if /usr isn't mounted |
| 02:59.55 | simonrvn | plan on learning ed |
| 03:01.00 | randyg | I'd like a modeless editor with the power of vim, but not the bloat of emacs. |
| 03:05.07 | Tenniru | Finally... backing out of vi. |
| 03:05.25 | Tenniru | How do I leave insert mode and save-quit? |
| 03:06.06 | randyg | <esc>:wq |
| 03:06.23 | randyg | or whatever it is on a mac. :) |
| 03:07.04 | simonrvn | esc:wq |
| 03:07.08 | Tenniru | It's esc. |
| 03:07.25 | Tenniru | What did you think it would be? "Fish"? |
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| 03:07.33 | Tenniru | Apple isn't totally non-sane. |
| 03:07.44 | Tenniru | Or "The button that escapes, or quits a program"? |
| 03:08.47 | randyg | yep. :P |
| 03:09.06 | randyg | any system with a key with an apple on it... |
| 03:09.21 | chrisa | Dunno, apple's icon for 'alt' leads me to believe they're insane |
| 03:09.35 | chrisa | It took me a good month to finally realize that weird slash was alt |
| 03:10.43 | Tenniru | Icon for alt? |
| 03:10.51 | Tenniru | What was the last Mac you've ever used? |
| 03:11.38 | chrisa | Look in any OSX menu |
| 03:11.40 | chrisa | You'll see it |
| 03:12.04 | Tenniru | It seems to rely on command/open-apple. |
| 03:12.06 | Tenniru | And not alt. |
| 03:12.15 | Tenniru | And that's a squiggly thingy. |
| 03:12.27 | danamania | the "Hide Others" option in most apps has it |
| 03:12.29 | Tenniru | Which is both on the menu and the apple button. |
| 03:12.40 | Tenniru | Oh, that. |
| 03:12.52 | Tenniru | It almost never appears, though... |
| 03:13.05 | Tenniru | I thought you meant a slash as in SLASH, not a... thingydooder. |
| 03:13.28 | danamania | dutch apple keyboards have the symbol marked on them |
| 03:13.34 | danamania | (probably some others, too) |
| 03:13.39 | Tenniru | Unfortunately, I'm American. |
| 03:13.42 | simonrvn | mine does |
| 03:14.00 | danamania | <- australian |
| 03:14.24 | randyg | my pc has keys helpfully labled "ctrl" and "alt", rather than using icons. :P |
| 03:14.41 | simonrvn | the words i have are "num lock" "caps lock" and "scroll lock" above the leds |
| 03:14.48 | simonrvn | the only words* |
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| 03:18.05 | Tenniru | Have you seen the new Apple Keyboard? |
| 03:18.09 | Tenniru | It has the words for them now. |
| 03:18.54 | Tenniru | However. the LEDs are inside the keys. |
| 03:24.49 | danamania | either is good - whatever helps people understand. |
| 03:25.02 | simonrvn | man, those poor winbloze users. so freaked out about port 1433 scans |
| 03:25.12 | danamania | Steve -still- puts an Apple logo on the key so it's still half Apple key. |
| 03:25.21 | Tenniru | If only uncooperative GUI configurators can be as comprehensive. |
| 03:26.02 | Tenniru | Well, I'm going to try again tomorrow... if for some reason nothing works, it's back to Ubuntu. |
| 03:26.26 | Tenniru | Except it's the embodiment of evil... |
| 03:26.40 | simonrvn | Tenniru: cp your unbuntu XF86Config-4 to the debian install. done |
| 03:26.47 | Tenniru | But Fedora's installer doesn't work and Mandrake takes up 6 CD-RWs |
| 03:26.48 | simonrvn | ubuntu |
| 03:26.56 | Tenniru | Well, I have to go now. |
| 03:26.59 | Tenniru | Bye... |
| 03:27.08 | randyg | hmm, what's port 1433? |
| 03:27.21 | simonrvn | MSSQL something |
| 03:27.28 | randyg | ah |
| 03:27.43 | randyg | would explain why I don't know the port number. :) |
| 03:27.47 | simonrvn | you know, that worm that caused so much traffic last year that it took out half the . name servers? |
| 03:28.23 | pahartik | simonrvn: on Sun Microsystems' keyboard key equivalent to Command is labeled with this diagonal square symbol... |
| 03:28.26 | randyg | my web server gets about 100 IIS-worm attacks/day... |
| 03:28.46 | simonrvn | randyg: yeh. boooooring. |
| 03:29.28 | randyg | boring, yet annoying, since I have to remember to grep -v them out when looking for anything in my access.log file. :) |
| 03:29.44 | simonrvn | payeh, seen it. goofy, isn't that stop or something? no wait... *glance over* |
| 03:30.26 | simonrvn | ah no, here it's next to alt, and on the other side next to compose |
| 03:30.40 | simonrvn | "alt graph" ? |
| 03:30.52 | danamania | (or is shellcode stuff more complex than that) |
| 03:31.18 | simonrvn | yes |
| 03:31.30 | randyg | linux ppc is more secure in that most buffer overflows are written in x86 assembly... |
| 03:32.06 | danamania | cool. |
| 03:32.07 | randyg | but don't worry... if ppc becomes more popular, there'll be plenty of worms for it too. :P |
| 03:32.07 | simonrvn | pahartik: ^^^ |
| 03:32.13 | simonrvn | eyup |
| 03:33.21 | randyg | simonrvn: rolling someone else's eyes would probably be messy |
| 03:33.26 | pahartik | simonrvn: would be easier if everyone used X11 terminology "Alt" and "Meta" for Option and Command... |
| 03:33.46 | simonrvn | hmm true |
| 03:34.27 | pahartik | simonrvn: but that is not going to happen, with so many Sun/Apple/other keyboards around |
| 03:34.59 | simonrvn | just gonna have to learn all the freaking variations =) |
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| 03:57.18 | randyg | blah... 6x8 tablets sell for too much! my drawing skills are way too pathetic to justify spending $100 on a tablet. :) |
| 03:58.03 | simonrvn | my SO needs one. she does graphics all the time |
| 03:58.32 | randyg | I have a 4x5 and a 9x12... one is too small (can't get the accuracy needed), the other takes up my entire desk. |
| 03:58.45 | randyg | I want a 6x8, but they sell for more than the sum of the other two sizes... |
| 04:01.06 | randyg | "Intuos Graphics Tablet Model GD-0912-R. which connects through USB." sure would be nice if people could actually LOOK AT THE PLUG. all -R tablets are rs232, not usb. |
| 04:04.09 | randyg | there is a surprising amount of stupidity in these auctions... at least half the auctions have some factual error. claiming a GD- tablet is an intuos2 (XD- is intuos 2), claiming mac ADB is usable on PCs, etc, etc... |
| 04:04.51 | pahartik | randyg: typical stupidity |
| 04:05.40 | simonrvn | besides the pure and simple fact ebay and amazon and such sites violate the spirit of the 'net... |
| 04:07.37 | pahartik | simonrvn: using Internet Explorer is ignorance attack against usability |
| 04:07.50 | randyg | ? |
| 04:08.11 | simonrvn | pahartik: totally |
| 04:14.00 | simonrvn | read some of the RFCs writte by jon postel |
| 04:14.27 | pahartik | randyg: topic is moving target |
| 04:14.49 | simonrvn | gotta aim ahead of the target ;) |
| 04:15.46 | randyg | only rfcs I know well are 2136 and 1459... and I don't think he wrote either of them. :) |
| 04:15.56 | simonrvn | nope |
| 04:17.33 | randyg | grr. ebay charged me $15, even though my bank admitted they bounced my seller fees in error. |
| 04:31.03 | randyg | blah! just remembered I need to write some documentation for work tomorrow. |
| 04:31.17 | simonrvn | woops |
| 04:31.48 | randyg | I had to go out and redo a bunch of another installer's jobs... they want written proof in case he complains when he's fired. |
| 04:32.15 | randyg | I did one better; I took my digicam out and made two movie clips of one of the jobs. :) |
| 04:33.25 | randyg | hmm, I have too many printers in here. am I odd for having 5 printers in my bedroom? lol |
| 04:34.45 | simonrvn | i had 2 deskwriters at one point. still have the 16/600 ps somewhere |
| 04:35.42 | pahartik | randyg: if they are decent PostScript printers, it is ok... |
| 04:42.28 | randyg | pahartik: a stylus color 900 for general color printing, a lexmark postscript for b&w laser printing, a stylus photo 750 for small photo printing, a stylus color 1520 for medium-format (14x19") photo quality printing, and a designjet 220 for 25x38" b&w printing. |
| 04:43.43 | randyg | Before I had a much fancier Ricoh postscript laser, but I damaged the drum (don't ask), and can't spare the $100 for one off ebay, nor $450 for one retail. |
| 04:44.47 | pahartik | randyg: ok, i do not have printer... i do not want one either |
| 04:45.24 | randyg | heh. I do a lot of large-format printing. still haven't gotten the designjet 220 to work reliably though. |
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| 04:45.56 | randyg | I once did a run of 100 14x19" photo-quality glossies on the 1520... thank goodness for $1 ebay ink carts. :) |
| 04:45.58 | pahartik | randyg: even if i had a job and had to print something as part of it, i could do it at work... |
| 04:46.38 | randyg | heh. the difference is, I don't have to go to work to print. :) |
| 04:47.23 | randyg | I don't typically use the designjet 220... most stuff I print fits on 14x19" or 17x22" paper, like the 1520 likes. |
| 04:47.42 | randyg | gimp-print rocks, btw. :) |
| 04:48.37 | pahartik | randyg: i only know how to shove PostScript to "lpr" |
| 04:49.05 | randyg | heh |
| 04:50.26 | simonrvn | gimp-print made the deskwriter work almost perfect. i do very little printing. only for stuff like formal letters and stuff. otherwise straight to cups-pdf |
| 04:52.37 | randyg | gimp-print for the 1520 looks infinitely better than even epson's $$$$$ driver. they give you a crap driver for free, and a less-crap driver for around $500... neither of which comes close to matching gimp-print's quality. |
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| 07:19.00 | randyg | offroadgeek: full-scale or r/c? :) |
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| 09:21.04 | pumk | im really close to buying a usb wifi card just so I can use debian :/ |
| 09:21.04 | pumk | that would be so wasteful tho |
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| 14:08.12 | jnc | hey-lo |