| 00:00.04 | simonrvn | does the kernel you're trying to boot need an initrd? if so, edit the conf correctly and run ybin -v |
| 00:00.33 | muchacho | that means it needs initrd ? |
| 00:01.22 | simonrvn | the error message tells me that that kernel is missing support for either the fs your / is on, or the device the disk on on, or both |
| 00:02.08 | chrisa | Lets not forget the voodoo magic and gremlins |
| 00:02.12 | simonrvn | i'm not a mind reader. if you want help, you,re going to have to give more information |
| 00:02.42 | muchacho | hehe sorry simonrvn, excuseme |
| 00:05.49 | simonrvn | what kernel is this? is it the custom one you made? a debian kernel? what version? |
| 00:07.02 | muchacho | 2.6.9 i did myself, debian kernel |
| 00:07.56 | simonrvn | by "debian kernel" i mean you fetched a kernel-image from a debian mirror |
| 00:09.16 | muchacho | o no |
| 00:09.21 | muchacho | www.kernel.org |
| 00:09.38 | muchacho | please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 00:09.39 | muchacho | :S |
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| 00:10.07 | simonrvn | read the man pages will help. i will not do that for you |
| 00:10.43 | muchacho | belive me i'm doing and trying a lot |
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| 00:44.53 | niktaris | anyone home? |
| 00:50.07 | muchacho | yes |
| 00:50.33 | muchacho | simonrvn where's the option for the kernel not have to need initrd ? |
| 00:50.38 | muchacho | in menuconfig |
| 00:51.22 | chrisa | I believe it's in Character Devices |
| 00:51.22 | niktaris | I have a X problem with my peg. X starts at first and then shuts down. Any idea? |
| 00:51.27 | chrisa | Initial Ram disk |
| 00:52.35 | muchacho | um |
| 00:52.44 | muchacho | i cann't see that option |
| 00:53.59 | muchacho | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.21 | chrisa | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD perhaps |
| 00:56.25 | chrisa | I can never remember |
| 00:56.37 | muchacho | where ? |
| 00:59.31 | muchacho | where is it chrisa ? |
| 01:06.02 | simonrvn | muchacho: you'll see it early on, near the top of menuconfig. can't remember where exactly - eith in block devices, or platform options |
| 01:09.44 | niktaris | Any idea what this means : RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available |
| 01:10.09 | muchacho | see the EError |
| 01:10.55 | niktaris | muchacho, strange thing is that there are no EE only WW |
| 01:11.06 | muchacho | uh |
| 01:11.44 | niktaris | my reaction too :) |
| 01:12.47 | niktaris | X starts ( I see the background and the mouse) and then it shuts down. The only diff in the .log file is this |
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| 01:21.04 | flankk | hullo 8) |
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| 01:22.12 | flankk | i was wondering how hardware support for ppc is with the debian port vs. yellow dog. |
| 01:22.52 | flankk | i would much rather use debian, as i believe yellow dog is a redhat port. |
| 01:23.58 | koxbox | hello.. someone online with a 12" powerbook ?? |
| 01:25.01 | koxbox | i hae some problems goinng into tty and then back into x |
| 01:25.05 | flankk | this channel always seems so dead 8( |
| 01:25.44 | koxbox | arrrr |
| 01:31.05 | Curalton | flankk: hw support is the same since they use the same kernel. both wont work with the damn airport extreme card |
| 01:31.33 | flankk | wow, someone is alive. |
| 01:31.48 | koxbox | yes damn airport extreme... i bought a 10m lan cable |
| 01:31.58 | flankk | Curalton, i've got 3 oldworlds i want to breathe some life into. |
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| 01:32.30 | Curalton | oldworld... no idea about them, but a few in here have some |
| 01:32.39 | flankk | Curalton, i've got 8.6, but there's no software for that nowadays, so i could hack the of to get osx working.. or use linux. |
| 01:33.38 | flankk | i really don't like the approach of having to use an existing mac partition, especially when i know other workarounds have been accomplished. |
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| 01:34.30 | simonrvn | flankk: be better off putting linux on those. they'll be faster, and the s/w is more easily gotten |
| 01:34.47 | flankk | simonrvn, hey simon. |
| 01:35.00 | Curalton | my non-oldworld comment would be to try ubuntu for once (given they boot from cd, heh) |
| 01:35.23 | flankk | simonrvn, the only reason i didn't want to was because of possible hardware constraints. |
| 01:35.27 | simonrvn | so does d-i. your point? ;P |
| 01:35.35 | simonrvn | flankk: such as? |
| 01:35.56 | flankk | simonrvn, with linux on ppc.. |
| 01:36.09 | flankk | simonrvn, like atapi drives.. |
| 01:36.38 | simonrvn | i don,t see what difference that would make |
| 01:37.01 | flankk | no no, i agree, it's just last time i tried putting linux on this sh*t i was unsuccessful. |
| 01:37.20 | simonrvn | what machines are we talking about? |
| 01:37.41 | flankk | 6400 and a couple slightly older ones. |
| 01:37.59 | flankk | all the old of and all power macs. |
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| 01:39.26 | Curalton | simonrvn: point being that from what i hear ubuntu is fully gui configurable :) |
| 01:39.30 | flankk | i messed with of quite a bit from a console compy.. even tried booting a kerned directly.. to no avail. i suppose i could try bootX again (the one for oldworld macs) |
| 01:39.48 | simonrvn | http://wiki.kisikew.org/bin/view/Know/MacModels#SixtyFour00 |
| 01:39.50 | flankk | kernel* |
| 01:40.20 | simonrvn | and http://wiki.kisikew.org/bin/view/Know/MacModels#NoOfwFb |
| 01:41.16 | flankk | thx. but i've read up on much of this information. |
| 01:41.17 | simonrvn | Curalton: meh :P |
| 01:41.40 | flankk | and like i've said, i already got of working with a console compy. |
| 01:41.45 | flankk | worked like a charm. |
| 01:41.48 | simonrvn | that's fine |
| 01:43.42 | Curalton | simonrvn: well, its still debian :) |
| 01:44.03 | simonrvn | no it's not |
| 01:45.38 | flankk | simonrvn, well, i'm off to try with the quik bootloader, i'll tell you how it goes 8| |
| 01:46.56 | simonrvn | ok |
| 01:49.10 | Curalton | simonrvn: not? do tell |
| 01:50.15 | simonrvn | ubuntu is based on debian, like knoppix and the other "wannabes" |
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| 01:50.52 | Curalton | well, guess you can strech the "debian" concept a bit |
| 01:51.10 | Curalton | knoppix is debian for me as well |
| 01:52.46 | simonrvn | we don't get that much here, but in #debian, a lot of the time we get people using derivatives, and then when we try to help them fix their box(en), and it still doesn't work, we wonder.... then someone thinks of checking what they're running, and it turns out to be knoppix or ubuntu... |
| 01:53.13 | simonrvn | (not always in that order, but more or less so) |
| 01:54.07 | Curalton | ah. ok, form a support pov thats different indeed :) |
| 01:54.23 | flankk | imo the problem isn't usually that it's a derivative, but rather that the person doesn't know how to solve the problem 8) |
| 01:54.44 | flankk | knoppix is _very_ similar to debian, other than a few compressed images and such. |
| 01:55.23 | flankk | but i do believe there is a correct channel for each distro/derivative. |
| 02:01.37 | simonrvn | yes there is, and the support diffs are handled best in their own chan |
| 02:03.22 | flankk | damn this mac! the cd only mounts half the time 8( and it isn't working at all for the cd i need it to. |
| 02:04.38 | flankk | hmm.. it does have a modem. maybe i can transfer files to it using crappletalk. |
| 02:07.45 | flankk | GAH! it won't mount the floppy either! |
| 02:18.09 | simonrvn | the floppy drive is twitchy. it wants decent floppies, even though they might last only a few times. |
| 02:18.43 | chrisa | Floppies suck, tftp / nfs are the new sauce |
| 02:19.17 | simonrvn | yeh netboot is nice if you have an FCoded NIC to boot from |
| 02:32.05 | randyg | "<simonrvn> randyg: aaw, cute :)" heh, thanks. :) |
| 02:32.52 | simonrvn | randyg: :). |
| 02:37.48 | randyg | I decided a long time ago that most humans are selfish, uncaring, unthinking, unintelligent, greedy, cruel, self-centered, irrational, and just... how can someone hurt other people for his/her own benefit? |
| 02:39.14 | flankk | hmm.. maybe you just need a new support group 8D |
| 02:39.52 | randyg | lol |
| 02:40.03 | randyg | show me evidence to the contrary. :P |
| 02:40.25 | simonrvn | heh. sad, but true. not all human people are like that, but too many seem to be :( |
| 02:40.55 | randyg | and most of the ones who aren't seem to be furries, debian developers, or both. :) |
| 02:41.23 | simonrvn | (or furry sympathisers ;) |
| 02:41.28 | flankk | naw |
| 02:42.40 | flankk | most debian developers are actually very grumpy, and are so l337, they have little time for any 'end-user' issues. 'bleh' they say, as they mockingly use their cd drive as a cup holder. i mean, who doesn't wear plaid. |
| 02:43.31 | randyg | lol |
| 02:44.02 | randyg | once I actually get my raytracer good enough to show other people, I'll need to sign up as a developer... make a package of it. |
| 02:44.29 | flankk | you're making a raytracer? cool. |
| 02:45.09 | randyg | right now it's simple forward-path tracing, triangles are the only shape, basic (and semi broken at the moment) phong shading, and perfect mirror surfaces (mostly) work. |
| 02:45.22 | flankk | 8o! |
| 02:45.32 | randyg | was mostly a test of the math functions... |
| 02:45.41 | randyg | going to completely rewrite it before writing any more code |
| 02:45.42 | flankk | gl? or how? |
| 02:45.52 | randyg | from scratch. |
| 02:45.57 | randyg | gl doesn't do tracing |
| 02:45.58 | flankk | fun stuff. |
| 02:46.11 | flankk | i thought you might be using its math. |
| 02:46.27 | randyg | I even wrote the TGA file library... mostly since I was too lazy to figure out someone else's interface. :) |
| 02:46.50 | flankk | ah, i know how that is. |
| 02:49.34 | randyg | I've mostly gotten the sse math figured out... should make ray-triangle intersection tests 4x faster... plus matrix multiplies, etc. |
| 02:51.13 | randyg | "<simonrvn> (or furry sympathisers ;)" true... I don't think I've met an anti-furry debian developer. |
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| 03:09.47 | jjbenham | is there a way to execute a script or command when suspend to disk resumes? |
| 03:11.00 | simonrvn | probably |
| 03:16.36 | Curalton | jjbenham: check ppbuttonsd |
| 03:17.02 | Curalton | jjbenham: it has /etc/power/*.d symlinks, dunno if that also cover supend to disk |
| 03:18.46 | jjbenham | don't know. I will look at it. |
| 03:19.18 | Curalton | err, s,symlinks,scripts, like the /etc/init.d/ mechanism |
| 03:19.37 | jjbenham | Curalton: I noticed now there is several laptop energy saving programs for Debian ppc . |
| 03:19.48 | jjbenham | Do use a laptop? |
| 03:20.20 | Curalton | using it on my ibook g3, only to-ram atm though |
| 03:21.30 | jjbenham | I use pbbutonsd, hdparm (with pbbuttonsd), and cpudyn. Do use any others. |
| 03:23.01 | Curalton | powernowd instead of cpudyn since i run 2.6 |
| 03:28.28 | jjbenham | how do you read battery % and estimated time at the command line? I use to use cat /proc/apm but I don't have that anymore |
| 03:30.10 | Curalton | wmbatppc has a cmdline batppc |
| 03:30.17 | Curalton | not too well parseable though |
| 03:31.28 | jjbenham | thanks |
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| 04:18.14 | BadM0nkey | is there a good site dealing with the imac 333? |
| 04:18.27 | BadM0nkey | i havent installed linux on many ppc machines |
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| 04:57.36 | flankk | me is back. |
| 04:57.48 | simonrvn | you is back? |
| 04:57.59 | flankk | me sure are. |
| 04:58.04 | BadM0bkey | what the open firmaware command to boot from cd? |
| 04:58.27 | BadM0bkey | ive been crawling all over the docs |
| 04:58.36 | simonrvn | etiher go bye, and hold down the c key, or type boot cd |
| 04:58.46 | BadM0bkey | thanks |
| 04:59.01 | BadM0bkey | i have an imac 333 neworld |
| 04:59.11 | flankk | command-option-shift-backspace forces a cd boot. |
| 04:59.40 | flankk | i definetely _do not_ hug open firmware. |
| 05:00.05 | flankk | every implementation of it is crap. period. |
| 05:00.06 | simonrvn | cmd-opt-sh-bs means "scan for last bootable device on all busses" instead of default "scan for first bootable device" |
| 05:00.17 | flankk | yup. |
| 05:00.21 | simonrvn | except for floppy, which it check first on oldworlds |
| 05:00.34 | BadM0bkey | cool stuff |
| 05:01.04 | BadM0bkey | im sick of installing on x86 |
| 05:01.40 | simonrvn | gimme any machine, i'll install debian on it ;) |
| 05:02.37 | BadM0bkey | heh |
| 05:03.12 | simonrvn | i've installed on 6500s.. they're different... the 5x00s and 6400 are similar i nthat you need a video card to do it right |
| 05:03.39 | flankk | on 6400 you're forced to use a console computer. |
| 05:10.33 | randyg | "<simonrvn> gimme any machine, i'll install debian on it ;)" even mca rs6ks? :) |
| 05:13.34 | flankk | i had trouble installing debian on my toaster oven. |
| 05:13.44 | flankk | i ended up just booting off a cracker. |
| 05:14.45 | randyg | didn't that toaster that burnt the day's weather forecast onto the bread run some version of linux? |
| 05:15.45 | flankk | maybe. |
| 05:16.06 | flankk | a lot of small devices use java though. ugh. |
| 05:18.07 | randyg | bbl, shower |
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| 06:40.44 | sleon|tuX | hi |
| 06:40.47 | sleon|tuX | i have a problem |
| 06:40.54 | sleon|tuX | i installed debian ppc on a oldrowrd machine |
| 06:41.11 | sleon|tuX | at the end of installation i was asked to install the QUICK bootloader |
| 06:41.19 | sleon|tuX | afterreboot i have not BLACK SCREEN |
| 06:41.26 | sleon|tuX | what should i do now? |
| 06:41.38 | sleon|tuX | the mac model is: performa 6800/200 |
| 06:41.49 | sleon|tuX | err 6400/200 |
| 06:42.21 | sleon|tuX | is it already completely broken now? |
| 06:42.28 | sleon|tuX | or is there still a chance to repair it? |
| 06:42.55 | sleon|tuX | i mean what can i do against BLACK screen? |
| 06:43.15 | sleon|tuX | are there any special keys or so? |
| 06:43.21 | sleon|tuX | where is the quick documentation?? |
| 06:43.49 | randyg | I've never used one... can't help. |
| 06:44.00 | randyg | tried percussive maintenance? :) |
| 06:44.13 | sleon|tuX | what is this? |
| 06:44.20 | sleon|tuX | randyg, with heavy gear? |
| 06:44.29 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: http://www.fi.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html#6400 |
| 06:45.14 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, and what does it mean? |
| 06:45.18 | sleon|tuX | i am completely ppc noob |
| 06:45.22 | sleon|tuX | i need some docu |
| 06:45.29 | sleon|tuX | is there some kind of console or so? |
| 06:45.35 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: you need to use serial port console to get started |
| 06:45.52 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, how to do it? |
| 06:45.57 | sleon|tuX | how to connect to this port at all |
| 06:46.02 | sleon|tuX | and why this? |
| 06:46.34 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, can you please describe it with some words? and why are you showing me netbsd page when it is going about linux |
| 06:47.16 | sleon|tuX | hmm |
| 06:47.23 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: OpenFirmware on that model does not co-operate with on-board framebuffer of that model |
| 06:47.25 | sleon|tuX | this mac world appears a little upside down to me |
| 06:47.46 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, ok, what should i do next? |
| 06:47.52 | sleon|tuX | what would you do? |
| 06:48.02 | Curalton | "percussive maintenance", lol |
| 06:48.24 | sleon|tuX | Curalton, i think it is the only way to install a new harddrive |
| 06:48.33 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: i would user serial port to interact with OpenFirmware |
| 06:48.40 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, how to do it |
| 06:48.45 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, please be more descriptive |
| 06:48.56 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, i will take with care every drop of inforamtion |
| 06:49.34 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, and does my mac has openfirmware?? |
| 06:49.59 | sleon|tuX | and what is my goal when i interact with openfirmware when it exists |
| 06:50.46 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, can i use a normal pci vga card? |
| 06:50.53 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: you can try to boot Linux |
| 06:51.13 | Curalton | sleon|tuX: just commenting on randygs "percussive maintenance" - just means "hit it, hard!" very eloquently :) |
| 06:51.52 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: as long as that graphics adapter does have ROM that co-operates with OpenFirmware |
| 06:52.14 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, arghl :=) |
| 06:52.17 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, ok |
| 06:52.24 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, what do i need to connect to the mac? |
| 06:52.44 | sleon|tuX | which programs/kabels should i use? |
| 06:52.58 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: RS-422 serial port cable |
| 06:53.14 | sleon|tuX | and program? |
| 06:54.05 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: "minicom" for example |
| 06:54.12 | sleon|tuX | does it work on linux? |
| 06:54.28 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: yes |
| 06:54.39 | sleon|tuX | there is told that serial console is per default on the modem jack ... |
| 06:54.42 | sleon|tuX | is this correct? |
| 06:55.19 | sleon|tuX | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.48 | sleon|tuX | so i am not able to set up it to use ttyb(parport) |
| 06:56.19 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: or remove modem, i guess |
| 06:56.36 | sleon|tuX | it is onboard, or do you suggest percussive method? |
| 06:56.54 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: but i have to go now |
| 06:57.20 | sleon|tuX | oh no :( |
| 06:57.26 | sleon|tuX | pahartik, when will i see you again ? |
| 06:57.48 | pahartik | sleon|tuX: later |
| 06:58.01 | sleon|tuX | thx pahartik |
| 07:01.01 | sleon|tuX | horror |
| 07:07.23 | sleon|tuX | and why the heck this debian installer installes the loader then it knows that system can be completely knocked out?? |
| 07:07.50 | sleon|tuX | i don't get the trick |
| 07:08.44 | sleon|tuX | no comment ... |
| 07:14.57 | randyg | because there's nothing debian can do about broken firmware. |
| 07:15.58 | sleon|tuX | really? |
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| 07:16.20 | sleon|tuX | it can tell that it is broken and not to try things which could cause stoping of functionality of system |
| 07:17.17 | sleon|tuX | i could use bootdiskcs to boot linux |
| 07:17.23 | randyg | did you miss the "no warranty of any kind, not gauranteed to work, etc" screen? :) |
| 07:17.24 | sleon|tuX | i started installer from them |
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| 07:18.17 | sleon|tuX | randyg, ok, now i know it |
| 07:19.51 | sleon|tuX | does somebody know if 48 mb ram and 200 mhz ppc are anough to be able to run firefox + xserver on the system? |
| 07:19.52 | randyg | linux won't even run at all on the ppc system I wanted to put it on. :) |
| 07:20.10 | randyg | firefox is slow no matter what you run it on |
| 07:20.31 | randyg | firefox is slow on my dual 866mhz with 2gb ram to play with. |
| 07:20.48 | sleon|tuX | really? |
| 07:21.44 | sleon|tuX | it is quick enough on a shit called duron 1ghz |
| 07:21.57 | sleon|tuX | with some crappy sis chipset |
| 07:22.06 | sleon|tuX | and 256 mb ram and windows xp |
| 07:22.15 | randyg | slow as hell on my duron 750... |
| 07:22.24 | randyg | maybe not as hell, but still slow |
| 07:22.43 | sleon|tuX | randyg, compared to which browser? |
| 07:23.30 | randyg | opera, dillo,... |
| 07:23.46 | sleon|tuX | dillo can not handle css |
| 07:23.50 | sleon|tuX | opera costs money |
| 07:24.41 | randyg | and mozilla is too slow. :) |
| 07:25.04 | sleon|tuX | :) |
| 07:25.05 | randyg | I still run netscape 4.7 on one of my boxes... it's faster on a p2-350 than mozilla is on the dual box |
| 07:25.17 | sleon|tuX | randyg, i told firefox is fast (i meant compared to mozilla) |
| 07:25.49 | sleon|tuX | randyg, can it handle javascript/php/css? |
| 07:26.04 | randyg | php is server-side, and thus no browser handles it. |
| 07:26.11 | sleon|tuX | right |
| 07:26.18 | sleon|tuX | ok then css and javascipt |
| 07:26.30 | randyg | netscape 4.7 claims to, but doesn't do a very good job. :) |
| 07:26.39 | randyg | it is, however, far, far, far faster than mozilla |
| 07:26.40 | sleon|tuX | thx for info :) |
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| 07:30.18 | sleon|tuX | i will comment on the progress i made folks |
| 07:31.05 | sleon|tuX | but linux needs real open hardware to avoid such crap |
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| 10:02.56 | omac | Ok...I tried Ubuntu ppc on an ibook g4. First off I, split the existing partition in two. Then I readjusted the size of macosx to 15GB and the other to 22GB with the max swap of 512.8MB. |
| 10:03.19 | omac | This laptop has 512MB of ram along with another 100MB in rom? |
| 10:05.25 | omac | All this to say, that was the toughest part. The first partition was hd:1 was still hfs+. The second partition at this point hd:2 was changed to ufs but soon to ext3. |
| 10:07.37 | muchacho | why i cann't start my new kernel ?? |
| 10:07.57 | muchacho | it says not found fs |
| 10:07.59 | muchacho | :(( |
| 10:08.07 | omac | After booting up ubuntu, I got into the disk partitioning tool and deleted the ufs partition and then let ubunto automagically partition the 25GB for ext3 and swap. After that I installed ubuntu with no hitches. |
| 10:08.47 | omac | muchacho...how many partitions on your hard drive? how many hard drives do you have? what kind of machine is it? |
| 10:10.27 | muchacho | 1 |
| 10:10.29 | muchacho | is an ibook |
| 10:10.35 | muchacho | like 7 partitions |
| 10:10.43 | muchacho | some 4 macosX |
| 10:10.44 | omac | Since my linux partition is hd:2, I do a reboot followed by the funky command + option + o + f ...this is where I put "boot hd:2, yaboot". |
| 10:11.16 | muchacho | i cann't start it |
| 10:11.27 | omac | Please be specific, what does your df -h say? what does your mount say? |
| 10:11.32 | muchacho | i change the info but i cann't |
| 10:12.04 | muchacho | ./dev/hda6 |
| 10:12.10 | muchacho | tmpfs |
| 10:12.17 | muchacho | ./dev/hda5 |
| 10:12.23 | muchacho | ./dev/hda7 |
| 10:12.45 | omac | which partition is you linux partition that you want to boot into? |
| 10:12.57 | muchacho | hda6 |
| 10:13.04 | muchacho | i have kernel sources on home |
| 10:13.10 | muchacho | it is important ? |
| 10:13.28 | muchacho | i copy new vmlinux form hda5 and copy to /boot |
| 10:13.35 | muchacho | and make ln -s |
| 10:14.18 | omac | Now from inside of mac os x when use look at the system information in the apple menu about this mac...more detail, you should be able to save all the information as profile.txt. |
| 10:14.45 | muchacho | information about what ? |
| 10:15.14 | omac | Somewhere in your hard disk information you will find it gives BSDname for each device. i.e. disk0s1s2 and disk1s2s2 blah blah. |
| 10:15.38 | muchacho | why a kernel run and another no ? |
| 10:16.15 | muchacho | i never have make run a compiled kernel by my own :( |
| 10:17.53 | omac | what did you put for the question mark in the following "boot hd:?, yaboot" |
| 10:18.14 | omac | Are you using gentoo or debian? |
| 10:18.34 | muchacho | debian |
| 10:18.57 | muchacho | i not indicate nothing in yaboot.conf |
| 10:19.04 | omac | Why didn't you use the provided kernel from debian repository? |
| 10:19.17 | muchacho | it's in the same partition as old kernel |
| 10:19.20 | omac | Is it a g4 you're using in your ibook? |
| 10:19.31 | muchacho | i downloaded from kernel.org |
| 10:19.32 | muchacho | yes |
| 10:20.10 | muchacho | a g4 |
| 10:21.02 | omac | This evening the ubuntu install went perfect. Next weekend I'll try the debian, gentoo and mandrake ones. My friend also has a g4 and she let me play on it all night. |
| 10:23.27 | omac | that said, I was surprised to see I couldn't get the binaries for xine, dvdrip and audacity to install without hitting dependency errors with ubuntu. That's why I am planning to try debian, gentoo and mandrake and see how they turn out. Ubuntu got straight onto the net with no hitches. |
| 10:25.44 | omac | BTW yaboot.conf was not modified by me. This file was automagically modified by ubuntu. The only trick was to remember the funky keystroke and boot command. |
| 10:26.27 | omac | BTW I haven't pushed the ati 8500 radeon card yet. It's still at ofonly |
| 10:27.17 | muchacho | :) |
| 10:27.23 | omac | That said the X stuff with gnome came up with no hitches first shot. Mozilla came up with no problems. aptitude works well. |
| 10:27.50 | muchacho | it's horrible too much time tring run new kernel 4 start my usb wifi device |
| 10:27.54 | muchacho | but i cann't :( |
| 10:28.55 | omac | You have a usb wifi device....what do you mean? You have an external wifi hard drive or simply your internet connection is a wifi adsl modem? |
| 10:29.37 | muchacho | yes |
| 10:29.42 | muchacho | i have an externel drive |
| 10:29.57 | muchacho | an external 11b device |
| 10:30.12 | muchacho | but i cann't because i have no new kernel support it |
| 10:30.26 | muchacho | :( |
| 10:33.01 | omac | Are you booting off this external usb device? If so I can imagine you pushing your kernel boot up :) You'd have a better chance to have your boot stuff on the internal hard drive in order to successfully start up wifi then followed by mounting your wifi usb device . |
| 10:36.26 | omac | the other thing I found odd was I didn't see bittorrent as a .deb at ubuntu's repository. |
| 10:36.52 | omac | The other one which I would have found useful is bittornado which wasn't there either. |
| 10:36.57 | muchacho | no no no |
| 10:37.11 | muchacho | that is a wireless device |