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| 00:48.38 | Piru | aba, well, assuming hd:0 is the first partition of the primary hdd, you should use /pci/ide/disk@0,0:0 .. it's @channel,disk:partition .. channel: 0 primary, 1 secondary disk: 0 master, 1 slave partition: the partition number |
| 00:52.49 | aba | Piru: the same error happens ... |
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| 00:53.25 | Piru | ls /pci/ide shows what? |
| 00:53.56 | aba | Piru: disk@0,0 |
| 00:54.08 | Piru | ok ls /pci/ide/disk@0,0 |
| 00:54.17 | aba | nothing. |
| 00:54.21 | Piru | hmmm |
| 00:54.41 | Piru | that should dump detected partitions |
| 00:54.47 | Piru | using rdb? |
| 00:54.56 | Piru | (parted that is) |
| 00:55.23 | aba | uh? I guess yes, that's default. But I can't swear :) |
| 00:55.31 | Piru | it's the default in d-i indeed |
| 00:55.33 | Piru | hmm weird |
| 00:55.49 | Piru | it should at least dump the partitions that are there.. |
| 00:56.11 | aba | could it be that the hard disk is too large? |
| 00:56.27 | Piru | not really |
| 00:57.17 | Piru | hm hm. I remember something about MBR messing things up |
| 00:57.40 | Piru | perhaps you could try zapping the MBR of the disk, just in case |
| 00:57.41 | aba | Any way how to fix that after booting into d-i? |
| 00:58.17 | Piru | hmm I think dd should do it, writing over the first block or so, let me check.. |
| 00:58.30 | aba | well, dd will delete everything ... |
| 00:59.09 | Piru | well, you need to tell it to zap just single block :) |
| 00:59.29 | Piru | actually less would do |
| 01:01.00 | Piru | you can try first reading the single block with dd.. when you get that working, use if=/dev/zero and of=/dev/dadisk |
| 01:01.59 | Piru | practicing with reading is safer that is :) |
| 01:04.46 | Piru | hm hm. late, need to sleep now. lets try again tomorrow if it still gives headaches |
| 01:06.45 | aba | same for me. Sleep well, and thanks for your help. |
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| 02:51.01 | sebas_ | hi all, I have a little problem to say the least, when I boot my machine I get a question mark and a little folder... |
| 02:53.27 | sebas_ | I have booted with a debian install cd, but does not recognize the hard drive... |
| 02:54.14 | simonrvn | which cd? sarge? woody? use the sarge one if you have a newish machine. old machines can't boot linux cd anyway |
| 03:05.26 | sebas_ | an old debian 2.2 cd, on a laptop titanium |
| 03:06.21 | sebas_ | but now, it is booting! I do not understand this. |
| 03:06.58 | sebas_ | I did a reset of the openfirmware, booted in osx |
| 03:08.49 | sebas_ | reboot with the alt key, chose the linux partition. |
| 03:09.26 | sebas_ | sound like an hardware problem... time for a backup at this stage. |
| 03:10.08 | sebas_ | ciao |
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| 05:06.52 | Johnny123 | hey, i'm trying to load debian on an oldworld mac and after the loading boot-floppy-hfs the screen turns black and it freezes up.. any ideas? |
| 05:07.11 | sobersabre | change socks... |
| 05:07.29 | sobersabre | close all the windows in the kitchen |
| 05:07.47 | sobersabre | exit the room, and enter again... |
| 05:08.04 | Johnny123 | thanks.. |
| 05:08.09 | Johnny123 | any other advice? |
| 05:09.14 | Johnny123 | i'd think that you'd be a bit more enthusiastic about helping someone liberate themselves from the system.. :-\ |
| 05:09.50 | sobersabre | how old is the old world mac... ? |
| 05:10.00 | sobersabre | which debian are you loading... ? |
| 05:10.11 | sobersabre | what is your favourite colour ? |
| 05:10.43 | Johnny123 | about 9-10 years old |
| 05:11.11 | Johnny123 | debian 3.0 off the 1.4 mb floppy install files off debian.net |
| 05:11.52 | Johnny123 | it starts to load the first install file, boot-floppy-hfs.img and load for about 45 secs |
| 05:12.18 | Johnny123 | then pauses, starts up again, and after about 5 more the screen turns black and the install process stops |
| 05:12.32 | Johnny123 | i guess when it should be prompting me to put in the second floppy? |
| 05:13.36 | sobersabre | yep.. but: can you install a mac os ? |
| 05:14.25 | Johnny123 | yeah, but would it be worth the cash just to end up loading debian on there? |
| 05:15.24 | Johnny123 | a guy meantioned loading/installing it off the hd in #debian, i guess i could try that, but i'd prefer to get it working off floppies |
| 05:15.43 | sobersabre | what's the difference for you ? |
| 05:16.33 | Johnny123 | well, i guess its just the time invested in getting it to work |
| 05:17.05 | sobersabre | isn't the disk much faster ? |
| 05:17.38 | Johnny123 | yeah, but id ultimately prefer to format and have a fresh copy of debian on there without the mac os |
| 05:18.27 | Johnny123 | could i partician and dual boot it with the mac os, then delete the mac one? |
| 05:19.16 | sobersabre | how much space do oyu have ? |
| 05:19.33 | Johnny123 | 1.1 gigs |
| 05:19.43 | Johnny123 | the current mac os takes up 550mb |
| 05:20.01 | Johnny123 | enough space for barebones debian, right? |
| 05:20.16 | Johnny123 | should be more than enough |
| 05:20.30 | sobersabre | yep... i don't like bonies |
| 05:21.09 | Johnny123 | well, i'd install more later if space really was a problem |
| 05:21.30 | Johnny123 | but that sounds perfectly feasible, right? |
| 05:21.37 | sobersabre | aye |
| 05:21.48 | Johnny123 | cool, thanks for the help |
| 05:22.15 | sobersabre | i remember buying 40MB harddisk and feeling the infinity in my hands |
| 05:22.23 | sobersabre | :) |
| 05:22.33 | Johnny123 | lol |
| 05:22.51 | sobersabre | but that was a pc. |
| 05:23.11 | sobersabre | i used a mac only sev. times in my life, before the os10 |
| 05:23.49 | Johnny123 | yeah |
| 05:23.57 | sobersabre | and since os10 i keep having these wet dreams "i'll save up and buy a powerbook" ... until i see the prices :) |
| 05:24.11 | Johnny123 | yeah lol |
| 05:24.51 | Johnny123 | same here until i got a series of windows boxes.. |
| 05:24.59 | sobersabre | well, now the plan is: after i build up my studio (monitors, console, mic, amp, audio/midi interface) then i buy a powerbook. |
| 05:25.43 | Johnny123 | thats quite a few prerequisites |
| 05:26.06 | sobersabre | yep... so in the end the price of powerbook seems not so painfull :))))) |
| 05:26.13 | Johnny123 | lol |
| 05:26.23 | sobersabre | pricing overkill |
| 05:26.57 | sobersabre | i am in a trilema: |
| 05:27.10 | sobersabre | either i should go and catch a bus for my 1st work |
| 05:27.19 | sobersabre | or to go and catch a train for my 2nd work |
| 05:27.26 | sobersabre | or just to stay home... |
| 05:27.47 | sobersabre | and keep my work on a project in a 3rd place... |
| 05:27.54 | sobersabre | what do you think ? |
| 05:28.02 | Johnny123 | hmm.. |
| 05:28.18 | sobersabre | and i haven't slept tonight.. it's 7:30 |
| 05:28.29 | Johnny123 | well, it sounds like you should call in sick for both jobs and go on a vacation |
| 05:28.44 | sobersabre | and what about the 3rd one ? |
| 05:28.46 | Johnny123 | thats way too much for a sane person to do |
| 05:29.02 | Johnny123 | lol |
| 05:29.58 | sobersabre | it's a transition period: i notified my old work. but i need to stay as the contract states. and at my new work.. they too need me... that's why they hire people, for work.... |
| 05:30.24 | Johnny123 | how long until you're released from your first work? |
| 05:30.26 | sobersabre | i mean i've quit the old work... but i am still an employee. |
| 05:30.38 | sobersabre | 1 more week. |
| 05:30.38 | randyg | sobersabre: perhaps some sabre rattling will get you out of your old work? |
| 05:30.47 | sobersabre | hehe |
| 05:30.47 | Johnny123 | lol |
| 05:31.01 | sobersabre | and i am sober... |
| 05:32.05 | sobersabre | i think i should go to country and grow geese or something. |
| 05:32.32 | Johnny123 | your bosses would approve |
| 05:33.40 | sobersabre | no... they wouldn't. but i don't care :) |
| 05:34.16 | Johnny123 | well, isn't that the point? |
| 05:34.47 | Johnny123 | you'd be much more productive without all of the stress of living in a city, or anywhere close to it |
| 05:34.47 | sobersabre | no. the point is i am tired, so don't trust my verbs. |
| 05:35.03 | sobersabre | nor my verses ; |
| 05:35.14 | Johnny123 | that works too |
| 05:52.01 | randyg | ugh... ebay's javascript has to be some of the ugliest I've ever seen. |
| 05:52.01 | randyg | I sent tech support an email about a bug in their javascript... they responded with a form letter saying the problem is IE's cache. worthless... |
| 05:52.03 | randyg | the real problem is they have "\r\n" hard-coded in everywhere, yet firefox only uses a \n, killing all their regexps. |
| 05:54.30 | randyg | probably works fine on non-real OSes... |
| 05:59.26 | randyg | so now I'm going a step-by-step parsing of their javascript, with written explanations of everything. I'll still get a form letter back, of course, but then I'll have a quite valid reason to tell them to get stuffed. :P |
| 06:00.11 | chrisa | At least you're used to the feeling you get when no one is listening |
| 06:01.53 | randyg | lol |
| 06:03.51 | randyg | it's both incompetently coded, and incompetently supported... you think a company with as much cash as ebay could afford to a) write the code properly the first time, and b) have tech support who know the difference between a problem cause by IE's cache and a coding bug. especially when the FIRST SENTANCE of the email was telling them to forward it to the guy responsible for coding it. |
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| 06:37.40 | vovka | hi |
| 06:37.46 | vovka | svenl |
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| 06:55.29 | randyg | hrmm, a minimac does look nice. :) |
| 06:55.36 | randyg | *waits for someone to buy him one* |
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| 12:59.49 | elnovato | may i run debian on that http://www.apple.com/ mini mac? |
| 13:01.27 | al_ | nobody has tried yet. |
| 13:01.55 | al_ | but i think you will be able to |
| 13:02.56 | elnovato | i need a pc wich is able to play video and browse internet, sort of video cable, but cheaper compact, is there any docs or workaround? |
| 13:08.34 | grivell | elnovato: I will try :) when it comes |
| 13:09.27 | Piru | sort of video cable, but cheaper compact? hmm? |
| 13:09.28 | grivell | Tell you what, when I get it I'll publish a step-by-step on installing Debian Sarge :-) |
| 13:09.49 | elnovato | great ;) |
| 13:09.53 | elnovato | that will rock |
| 13:10.03 | grivell | It looks like it has my iBooks specs. It's G4 1.25 ghz, radeon 9200 ;) |
| 13:10.07 | azazel | someone knows how to convert a dmg to an iso ? |
| 13:11.12 | grivell | azazel: Why? |
| 13:11.15 | elnovato | grivell: whats the performance of an mac, versus intel ? |
| 13:11.52 | Piru | eh? versus WHAT? |
| 13:12.11 | Piru | 'intel' is slightly vague don't you agree? |
| 13:12.16 | azazel | grivell: to be able to burn it without macos |
| 13:12.59 | elnovato | soo an mac 1.25 is better than a pentium 4 ? |
| 13:13.10 | Piru | what speed pentium 4? |
| 13:13.40 | Piru | what what cpu is that mac 1.25 ? |
| 13:13.55 | elnovato | 3 ghz says intel |
| 13:14.01 | grivell | elnovato: Don't know, never tested. I'd say its faster then P4 per clock cycle. (g4's) |
| 13:14.06 | Piru | if you mean to compare 7447 1.25 against p4 3ghz.. p4 wins easily |
| 13:14.15 | Piru | except that it runs a lot hotter => noisier |
| 13:14.18 | grivell | Piru: It's a G4 |
| 13:14.56 | pahartik | Piru: CPU is probably PowerPC 7447 |
| 13:15.03 | Piru | it is 7447A for sure |
| 13:15.07 | Piru | in that mini mac at least |
| 13:15.14 | Piru | no way normal 7447 run that cool :) |
| 13:15.44 | grivell | Well, I have a Dell i5150 3.06 ghz P4. And my iBook G4 1.25 ghz is not that much slower (by eye). But I'm sure in standard games it would be. |
| 13:16.19 | Piru | well, both are runnig the same os and distro? |
| 13:16.22 | Piru | running |
| 13:16.34 | grivell | Piru: Both run Debian. |
| 13:17.03 | Piru | also, other components make much of the speed, too.. like gfxcard |
| 13:17.09 | grivell | In fact, all I did when I got the iBook was to install my apps, and copy my $HOME. |
| 13:17.20 | simonrvn | sheer processing power per instruction i bet the g4 kicks the p4's butt |
| 13:17.27 | Piru | but in plain generic number crunching P4 eats G4's alive... but in some specific tasks G4 altivec is really cool |
| 13:17.29 | grivell | Radeon 9200 / 32 mb on iBook vs Radeon 9000/64mb on dell |
| 13:17.56 | Piru | (I was taking the higher clock in count there) |
| 13:18.01 | xLobeznox | radeon 9200 have aceleration with dri? |
| 13:18.07 | grivell | xLobeznox: yes |
| 13:18.13 | grivell | 9200 and under |
| 13:18.43 | simonrvn | Piru: only because a p4 is a brute force number cruncher. |
| 13:18.49 | Piru | pile of those mini macs would make perfect RC5-72 cluster btw :-) |
| 13:19.05 | xLobeznox | 7500 have a very bad aceleration |
| 13:19.06 | simonrvn | a p4 has a long pipe, you have to keep it fed, hence the high GHz |
| 13:19.07 | xLobeznox | very slow |
| 13:19.14 | Piru | simonrvn, true |
| 13:19.31 | simonrvn | a g4 or g5 has a short pipe. not hard keeping that fed |
| 13:19.52 | Piru | and 7447a is really sweet in power consumption and heat dissipation |
| 13:20.01 | simonrvn | a misstep in instructions is not going to kill the latter |
| 13:20.12 | Piru | you can easily run that with passive cooling I believe |
| 13:20.13 | simonrvn | it will a p4. |
| 13:20.32 | simonrvn | a g4 your can. g5 you need active afaik |
| 13:20.52 | Piru | I spoke about 7447A |
| 13:20.54 | Piru | which is G4 |
| 13:21.00 | simonrvn | yes, i know |
| 13:21.17 | simonrvn | i misread :) |
| 13:21.22 | Piru | g5 is different matter, though 970fx is cooler than 970 I believe |
| 13:21.45 | simonrvn | wouldn't know |
| 13:21.46 | Piru | still needs active cooling probably |
| 13:21.57 | Piru | you could always underclock a bit :-) |
| 13:22.33 | simonrvn | dunno much about the 970* except that it's 64 bit (as $deity intended ppc to be ;) and needs cooling =) |
| 13:23.17 | Piru | g5 altivec sucks eggs though |
| 13:23.41 | simonrvn | as to those mini-macs, i'm sure people will be getting a few or several to do just that: clustering |
| 13:23.43 | Piru | but I guess the higher clock makes it all good in the end |
| 13:24.21 | Piru | lets say.. 4 x minimac.. that'd do 4 x 15-17 mkeys rc5-72 (iirc) |
| 13:24.25 | simonrvn | oh it does? how come? (altivec). btw, big MHz only impresses script kiddies ;) |
| 13:24.26 | Piru | :) |
| 13:24.31 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 13:25.05 | Piru | 970 has some older version of the altivec (or did it have less units or sth).. 7447 ++ has the best altivec so far |
| 13:25.33 | Piru | anyway, 7447++ altivec is much faster per clock than 970 |
| 13:25.38 | simonrvn | i see. later versions might get a better altivec set then, i suppose |
| 13:25.47 | Piru | could be |
| 13:25.50 | simonrvn | 2.6.10-grsec |
| 13:25.54 | Piru | ah damn, must run, bbl |
| 13:25.56 | simonrvn | finally |
| 13:25.59 | simonrvn | ok, see ya |
| 13:36.20 | sloopy | simonrvn: greetings... hows life? |
| 13:36.41 | simonrvn | hiya, doing ok. how's you? |
| 13:41.22 | sloopy | went to the doc, told me i have diabetes... started getting it under control and now i am not so tired all the time... |
| 13:41.39 | sloopy | so... it is going about usual... i.e. shit happens ;') |
| 13:42.12 | simonrvn | oh, type 1 or 2 ? |
| 13:42.28 | sloopy | 2 |
| 13:43.32 | simonrvn | well, good thing you know, and have it under control. |
| 13:43.35 | simonrvn | :) |
| 13:43.54 | azazel | someone knows how to find a page with all the mac cheat keystrokes like apple-c, etc? |
| 13:44.15 | Bor_Ed | try to search for apple eastern egg |
| 13:44.22 | simonrvn | google. resexcellence.com maybe. ask a mac head ;) |
| 13:44.29 | simonrvn | easter |
| 13:44.48 | Bor_Ed | aww right, thanks |
| 13:45.15 | sloopy | which keystroke you looking for? i have most of them somewhere around here... |
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| 13:45.36 | sloopy | simonrvn: yeah it is still a little high (140-170 fasting) but working on it... |
| 13:45.52 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: you're right, mozilla is faster than firefox. but it lacks some stuff that firefox has |
| 13:45.58 | sloopy | simonrvn: i have been showing signs sice '99 so it isnt a real big suprise... |
| 13:46.31 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, haven't noticed anything missing :o |
| 13:46.34 | simonrvn | sloopy: cool. it'll take a while maybe, but it's more of an adjustment to it than naything |
| 13:46.45 | simonrvn | sloopy: *nods* |
| 13:47.28 | sloopy | i was ~200-230 fasting, and 270-310 normally so it is much better now... |
| 13:48.30 | simonrvn | yikes |
| 13:48.42 | sloopy | yeah :'/ |
| 13:49.11 | sloopy | explains why i was tired all the time (and not online for the last month or so... |
| 13:53.23 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 13:54.11 | simonrvn | azazel: http://www.macosx.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3070.html |
| 13:55.17 | simonrvn | ha, mock os x has a single user mode |
| 13:55.28 | jaska | hmm, 200-230 what? |
| 13:56.19 | sloopy | jaska: my glucose level... (normal is ~100 +/- 40 ) |
| 13:56.24 | jaska | ahh |
| 13:56.44 | sloopy | simonrvn: yeah it is just like any other 'unix' |
| 13:56.51 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 13:57.37 | simonrvn | and a lot of the "mock os x" hotkeys are in previous versions... the page i pasted i see a lot of the old hotkeys there |
| 13:57.39 | sloopy | jaska: this is the main thing about diabetes... body has problems regulating the sugar in your blood... |
| 13:58.13 | sloopy | is there a hotkey to make 10.3 install faster on my B&W? ;') |
| 13:58.46 | azazel | simonrvn: thanks |
| 13:59.06 | simonrvn | sloopy: i very much doubt it ;) |
| 14:00.04 | sloopy | well 300mhz and 256Meg ram, dont make any version of osx exactly scream ;') |
| 14:00.57 | simonrvn | heh, no |
| 14:01.25 | simonrvn | good reason to run linux ;) |
| 14:02.34 | simonrvn | sloopy: well, i'm glad you're doing better, nice to see you again. we missed you here |
| 14:02.46 | sloopy | my b&w does run linux, this is mrs sloopys B&W |
| 14:02.56 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 14:03.14 | sloopy | she has this idea that she 'needs' ms orifice... |
| 14:03.23 | simonrvn | i thought of installing os x on SO's box, but it's a 604e/185 |
| 14:03.36 | simonrvn | with 192 MB RAM |
| 14:04.31 | sloopy | well if you do SO will become SO (significant other, seen otherplaces) |
| 14:05.50 | simonrvn | heh |
| 14:09.49 | jaska | sloopy, oh i know, my grandmother had diabetes (mothers side), my cousin has (mothers side), and one uncle has (fathers side) |
| 14:13.17 | simonrvn | some of my family has it too |
| 14:17.15 | sloopy | my mother has it too... |
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| 14:20.07 | sloopy | jaska: yeah not a particularly wanted 'guest' :'/ |
| 14:20.12 | jaska | :| |
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| 15:02.14 | xLobeznox | someone here have q2 installed? |
| 15:04.54 | simonrvn | q2? |
| 15:07.59 | Bor_Ed | yup, not the data files yet though, my cd is MIA |
| 15:08.22 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, id softwares quake 2 |
| 15:08.30 | simonrvn | oh, bleh |
| 15:08.32 | xLobeznox | quake2 |
| 15:15.40 | Piru | ii quake2 0.3-1 improved version of id Software's Quake II e |
| 15:17.12 | Bor_Ed | suprise, moz hung again when trying to download from idsoftware |
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| 15:56.20 | Q-FUNK | moz sucks. |
| 15:56.49 | Q-FUNK | I really wished that Opera would recode their thing to use GTK. |
| 15:57.08 | al_ | I really wished that Opera was free. |
| 15:57.49 | Q-FUNK | even as non-free. I just hate the fact that it's QT-based. |
| 16:00.56 | azazel | qt sucks:) |
| 16:08.25 | Q-FUNK | QT is not bad, but KDE is. |
| 16:08.54 | Q-FUNK | Qt is in fact an amazingly good toolkit. |
| 16:09.31 | Q-FUNK | GTK is barely catching up with a lot of things that QT has had for a long time. |
| 16:12.14 | jaska | bah, stupid desktop environments. |
| 16:14.33 | azazel | it could be, but using both qt2 and gtk2 apps in my work, i found the latter to be more polished an precise in respose to boh mouse and keyboard events |
| 16:15.09 | Q-FUNK | jaska: oh.. you'r eon ion? :D |
| 16:15.10 | azazel | jaska: i use wmaker as my environment |
| 16:15.17 | Q-FUNK | jaska: can you test soemthing for me? |
| 16:16.09 | Q-FUNK | jaska: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=185256 |
| 16:16.27 | jaska | hmm |
| 16:17.10 | jaska | hold on. |
| 16:18.31 | jaska | doesnt seem to affect me in any way |
| 16:18.46 | jaska | ii ion2 20040729-1 Keyboard-friendly window manager with tiled windows (v2) |
| 16:18.50 | jaska | using that |
| 16:19.37 | Q-FUNK | jaska: can you please tell that to 185256@bugs.debian.org |
| 16:20.15 | jaska | hmm, just mail to that addr? |
| 16:20.38 | Q-FUNK | jaska: please include the result of 'dpkg -l ion* numlockx | grep ii' |
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| 16:21.44 | Q-FUNK | jaska: just a short report to confirm that numlockx does not create those symptoms for you, adding the dpkg -l result from above to confirm what you are currently using. |
| 16:21.51 | Q-FUNK | yes, to that e-mail. |
| 16:22.51 | Q-FUNK | or you can use "reportbug numlock" to do it, using the 'x' option to add details to an existing bug. |
| 16:23.06 | jaska | sent, short as in ~1 line :) |
| 16:23.20 | jaska | with dpkg -l ion\* numlockx | grep ^ii output included |
| 16:24.19 | Q-FUNK | basically, since I haven't heard from the original bug submitter, I have to get confirmation form another ion user that the current numlockx works for them. |
| 16:24.36 | jaska | im guessing its an old pwm/ion bug |
| 16:24.48 | jaska | i remember having oddities with numlock being on/off and keybindings |
| 16:24.51 | Q-FUNK | it could be |
| 16:24.52 | jaska | with pwm |
| 16:25.14 | Q-FUNK | ah. damn. I wished you had said that in your mail to the above bug. :/ |
| 16:25.22 | jaska | duh :| |
| 16:27.07 | jaska | hmm, seems to have quite a bit of latency |
| 16:27.20 | jaska | im trying to refresh that page :) |
| 16:27.24 | Q-FUNK | heh |
| 16:27.34 | jaska | also saw it leave our mailq |
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| 16:34.44 | jaska | ooh, appeared now |
| 16:39.38 | Q-FUNK | :) |
| 16:40.45 | Q-FUNK | could you please send another e-mail, saying somethign like "I forgot to mention that I used to have problems with an old version of Ion, like the original bug reporter said, but I haven't had any problem for a long time." |
| 16:41.03 | Q-FUNK | just to be safe. |
| 16:41.05 | jaska | actually it was pwm that i had troubles with :) |
| 16:41.26 | Q-FUNK | is that the default wm that goes with ion? |
| 16:41.36 | jaska | nah, its the predecessor of ion by the same author |
| 16:41.54 | Q-FUNK | ok. |
| 16:42.03 | jaska | want the mail anyway? |
| 16:42.06 | Q-FUNK | then s/ion/pwm in the above line :) |
| 16:42.44 | Q-FUNK | if you read the guy's original bug report, he talks about both ion and pwm. |
| 16:43.15 | Q-FUNK | if you think that the real bugger is some old version of pwm or ion, it already clarifies the bug a lot. |
| 16:43.46 | jaska | yes i think so. |
| 16:43.51 | jaska | im not 100% tho |
| 16:44.47 | al_ | well, ion is "shipped" with pwm. |
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| 16:45.08 | al_ | for the WFloatWS workspaces |
| 16:45.33 | jaska | ok, sent more |
| 16:45.36 | jaska | :P |
| 16:46.04 | jaska | but now mv jaska ~ |
| 16:50.01 | Q-FUNK | jaska: thanks :) |
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| 17:09.17 | jaska | btw, im pretty sure if you eye ion changelogs youll see it |
| 17:09.18 | jaska | or pwm |
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| 19:04.12 | eddyp | re all |
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| 21:39.29 | eddyp | any idea why mplayer doesn't want to use esd and has crappy video? |
| 21:51.59 | mirak | eddyp: use vlc |
| 21:52.37 | eddyp | mirak: a little bit crappy |
| 21:52.58 | mirak | eddyp: vlc ? |
| 21:53.10 | eddyp | mirak: yeap |
| 21:53.26 | eddyp | mirak: in fact, vlc is ok, wmv is crap |
| 21:53.49 | mirak | you want to watch the tsunamy video ? |
| 21:53.51 | mirak | :) |
| 21:54.02 | mirak | wmv is crap yes |
| 21:54.13 | mirak | it's not different on mplayer or vlc or kaffeine |
| 21:54.18 | mirak | crap is crap |
| 21:59.20 | eddyp | stoopid people use the proprietary format without knowing |
| 21:59.49 | eddyp | mirak: I saw mplayer behaves better than vlc in many cases |
| 22:00.10 | mirak | new news |
| 22:00.37 | mirak | in europe microsoft will be obliged to sell a Windows XP version without windows media player |
| 22:00.52 | mirak | so, without any codec at all |
| 22:01.21 | mirak | I don't know if they can provide media player as a downloadable upgrade |
| 22:01.59 | mirak | this means that a freshly installed linux will give you more tools and codecs to play medias |
| 22:05.23 | eddyp | mirak: vlc doesn't play well avi... well avi is a kind of pizza format |
| 22:05.23 | eddyp | mirak: xine plays it ... |
| 22:06.05 | mirak | eddyp: I never had a problem with vlc |
| 22:06.22 | mirak | it's the most powerfull also |
| 22:06.32 | mirak | with a small machine it's the best |
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