| 00:00.11 | Floid | Command-Option-P-R at boot? |
| 00:02.14 | Floid | I should really write a timestamping script. |
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| 00:07.34 | ShadowRage | hummm |
| 00:07.45 | ShadowRage | /me is trying to get bootx to boot the other HDDD |
| 00:08.16 | simonrvn | ShadowRage: there's a little text box you can specify the /dev/ |
| 00:08.17 | ShadowRage | ... |
| 00:09.06 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: know how to get a matrox card working on an 8500? |
| 00:09.28 | ShadowRage | mine has both apple and vga ports.. but the vga port displays nothing but little dots scattered about |
| 00:09.37 | ShadowRage | I need to flash it but cant find the bios files to flash it |
| 00:09.44 | simonrvn | gotta be a mac card or a pc card flashed to mac to init at boot |
| 00:09.52 | simonrvn | that flashing is one-way |
| 00:12.14 | ShadowRage | I know |
| 00:18.10 | ShadowRage | Matrox MGA 1064SG |
| 00:18.26 | ShadowRage | I've checked the matrox site |
| 00:18.58 | ShadowRage | either for macos or some other card revision |
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| 00:35.30 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: you still there? |
| 00:36.14 | simonrvn | quite busy ATM |
| 00:36.43 | ShadowRage | /bandit/gc/mesh/sd@0:0 |
| 00:37.03 | ShadowRage | what does the sd@0:0 thing mean? |
| 00:37.13 | ShadowRage | which one specifies the drive |
| 00:37.21 | ShadowRage | which side of the :0 |
| 00:37.25 | ShadowRage | er : |
| 00:37.34 | ShadowRage | I know one means the scsi lun |
| 00:38.05 | ShadowRage | or ID |
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| 00:46.20 | ShadowRage | nm |
| 00:46.21 | ShadowRage | got it |
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| 01:01.09 | simonrvn | the first 0 |
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| 01:19.30 | eddyp | any idea if the iPod shuffle is a pure mass-storage device? |
| 01:20.35 | simonrvn | i don't know |
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| 01:47.43 | Faustus | hi. Has anyone got a propperly working iMac 17" widescreen? |
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| 02:16.09 | core | Faustus from 303? |
| 02:16.41 | Faustus | ?? |
| 02:16.57 | Faustus | I refering to the iLamp 17" |
| 02:18.23 | Faustus | with the lcd wide screen screen |
| 02:18.42 | Faustus | Oh, no I must be a diff Faustus |
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| 11:31.19 | one_2_one | hi ppl |
| 11:32.14 | Oryn | hi |
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| 12:11.05 | Zomb | is there something like ndiswrapper for OS-X drivers? |
| 12:18.36 | Stereo | Zomb: what are you trying to do? |
| 12:19.30 | Zomb | Stereo: calculate the chances for buying a g4-Ibook |
| 12:19.43 | Zomb | AFAICS there are no supported USB wlan adapters either |
| 12:20.00 | Stereo | I thought the airport cart was supported |
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| 12:21.04 | Zomb | not the Extreme in recent models |
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| 16:45.17 | Zee_ | hey, anyone want to help me out in deciding how to partition my hard drive? |
| 16:45.45 | Zee_ | I have a powerbook with an 80GB drive |
| 16:46.05 | Zee_ | I want to install linux on one partition |
| 16:46.18 | Zee_ | os x on one |
| 16:46.54 | Zee_ | and have the rest for media that both partitions can access |
| 16:47.00 | Zee_ | any help? |
| 16:49.37 | Zee_ | hello?, I really need some help here, |
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| 16:50.05 | Zee_ | you are all a bunch of idling fools |
| 16:54.35 | grivell | ? |
| 16:54.40 | Zee_ | yay |
| 16:54.46 | Zee_ | some one is home |
| 16:54.52 | grivell | I'll help |
| 16:55.04 | Zee_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.31 | grivell | Alright. Ever install Linux on it before? |
| 16:56.03 | Zee_ | no |
| 16:56.15 | Zee_ | and I don't want to do that now, |
| 16:56.29 | grivell | ? |
| 16:56.39 | grivell | Then why ask? |
| 16:56.55 | Zee_ | I just want to leave space so I can install linux later |
| 16:57.06 | grivell | ahh. ok. 1 sec |
| 16:57.13 | Zee_ | k |
| 16:57.28 | grivell | http://seb.france.free.fr/linux/ibookG4/iBookG4-howto.html |
| 16:58.17 | grivell | That should tell you how to do it. You do know MacOSX has to be reinstalled if you do this, right? |
| 16:59.05 | Zee_ | yep |
| 16:59.11 | Zee_ | thats what I am in the middle of |
| 17:07.51 | Zee_ | grivell, on the webpage you sent me to, I do not see the answer to my question anywhere. |
| 17:08.05 | grivell | 1 sec |
| 17:08.38 | grivell | http://seb.france.free.fr/linux/ibookG4/iBookG4-howto-2.html#ss2.3 |
| 17:08.44 | Zee_ | all I wan to kknow now, is if debian will be able to wright to the os x partition |
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| 17:09.28 | grivell | http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.shtml |
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| 17:10.13 | grivell | http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html |
| 17:10.44 | grivell | As of this writing, the Linux kernel has read-only support for UFS, but neither read-only nor read/write support for HFS+. There are userspace utilities in the hfsplus Debian package that provide read-only support for HFS+ |
| 17:11.28 | Zee_ | ahhhh |
| 17:11.31 | Zee_ | thank you |
| 17:11.35 | grivell | sorry :( |
| 17:11.50 | Zee_ | that last link is exatly what I needed |
| 17:12.05 | Zee_ | you hard core geeks are harsh. |
| 17:12.23 | grivell | hehe Well it's a bad day ;) |
| 17:12.30 | Zee_ | all this serious linux stuff is way over my head |
| 17:12.33 | grivell | mwilson is worse, I'm just in a bad mood |
| 17:12.43 | Zee_ | I am an os x guy |
| 17:13.03 | grivell | Getting a MacMini for my parents. Not sure when it's shipping though. |
| 17:13.14 | Zee_ | good, good |
| 17:13.26 | Zee_ | I can't wait to see one in person |
| 17:13.34 | Zee_ | they look pritty slick |
| 17:14.07 | grivell | Yeah, cheap enough. And the video card has open source 3D drivers. (radeon 9200), so it was easy choice. |
| 17:15.11 | Zee_ | hehe, yah |
| 17:15.29 | grivell | I took a piece of paper and folded it just to see how big it is. It blew me away. |
| 17:15.50 | Zee_ | there only 2.9 pounds |
| 17:16.10 | Zee_ | thats like half the weight of my power book |
| 17:16.21 | Zee_ | friggen light |
| 17:18.43 | pahartik | grivell: think about CD jewel case... add 2 cm to each side... (6 sides) |
| 17:19.49 | grivell | yeah. I think I drank the kool aid ;) |
| 17:20.06 | pahartik | grivell: that represents the size quite well |
| 17:20.08 | grivell | Truth is, I didn't even need the thing. I just wanted it. arg. |
| 17:21.09 | grivell | I think its getting to the point where I have a problem. I'm spending somewhere like $2k a year on hardware. And I don't even play Doom3, etc. |
| 17:22.21 | grivell | Thats it. I take a stand. I will not buy any new laptops or computers for the next 2 years. 2007. |
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| 17:53.22 | hacim | is this where the ppc64 port hangs out? |
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| 18:15.51 | simonrvn | i suppose... |
| 18:16.42 | hacim | i'm curious why there isn't a ppc64 machine in the buildd farm |
| 18:16.54 | hacim | it seems like it could speed up the porting process significantly |
| 18:17.30 | hacim | i know one of my packages theoretically will configure/build for ppc64 but it has never been tried because there is no ppc64 buildd |
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| 18:26.22 | Piru | huh? |
| 18:28.44 | hacim | Piru: ? |
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| 20:02.01 | luis | Hi, I'm planning to reinstall MacOS X on my powerbook, I heard that would erase yaboot? Can somebody tell me how I should then reinstall yaboot, or point me to some doc about this? |
| 20:03.00 | dj-death | luis: juste boot from your debian cd |
| 20:03.12 | luis | dj-death: I've never had a debian CD ;) |
| 20:03.16 | dj-death | mount your / from the harddrive |
| 20:03.29 | luis | dj-death: should I get some netinst iso? |
| 20:03.29 | dj-death | then you should ;) |
| 20:03.38 | dj-death | yes |
| 20:03.43 | luis | Ok, thanks. |
| 20:03.52 | dj-death | then chroot |
| 20:03.58 | luis | Yeah. |
| 20:04.02 | dj-death | and reinstall yaboot ;) |
| 20:04.06 | luis | Thanks. |
| 20:04.20 | luis | dj-death: that would be just running ybin right? |
| 20:04.50 | dj-death | hmmm |
| 20:05.11 | dj-death | I'm using mkofboot on my ibook |
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| 20:17.27 | xzakox | hi |
| 20:18.42 | xzakox | mmm i have just reinstaled sarge on my ibook (g3, new HD), and sleep mode when lid is closed doesn't works |
| 20:18.54 | xzakox | but it works when the power button is pressed |
| 20:19.15 | xzakox | any idea? i don't remember what i have to configure hehehe |
| 20:19.40 | simonrvn | no idea. applied sleep patch? |
| 20:19.44 | al_ | 1. do you have pmu in your kernel ? 2. do you have a pmud daemon ? (mpud/pbbuttonsd) |
| 20:19.49 | al_ | simonrvn, he said g3 |
| 20:20.08 | simonrvn | al_: i wouldn't know :) |
| 20:22.54 | xzakox | pmu in kernel, yes |
| 20:23.06 | xzakox | and i have pbbuttonsd |
| 20:43.17 | luis | dj-death: the netinst CD image (with Debian base) is 200M big. Isn't there something smaller? |
| 20:43.48 | al_ | businesscard, luis. |
| 20:43.56 | luis | al_: thanks. |
| 20:44.15 | dj-death | luis: probably but I always used debian cds |
| 20:45.04 | luis | dj-death: thanks, well the businesscard image is smaller, although I'm sure it could be even smaller.. like 5MB big.. |
| 20:45.08 | hacim | i'm guessing that this channel is not where the debian ppc64 port work is done |
| 20:47.16 | simonrvn | um, if you had stated that previously, we ould have said otherwise |
| 20:47.22 | simonrvn | would* |
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| 20:47.53 | simonrvn | instead you said "is this where the ppc64 port hangs out?" which is vague and unclear |
| 20:48.42 | hacim | we all make typos it seems |
| 20:48.54 | simonrvn | you might want to check the server list. /msg chanserv list a_search_pattern |
| 20:49.12 | hacim | fortunately I was not overtaken by grief in waiting here to find this out |
| 20:49.29 | simonrvn | heh |
| 20:49.49 | grivell | Debian has a ppc64 port? Even out of the loop? |
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| 20:49.53 | simonrvn | well, i think there is one, look for "pp64" |
| 20:50.11 | simonrvn | not really, but the kernels can support ppc64 |
| 20:50.14 | hacim | but I appreciate your aid in trying to alieve my suffering |
| 20:50.22 | simonrvn | :) |
| 20:50.32 | grivell | Gentoo has one. But then again, they have a C64 one too ;) sick compilers. |
| 20:50.39 | hacim | and apologize for vague and unclear shots in the dark |
| 20:51.20 | hacim | i have determined my answer so I ride forth, on my trusty steed, to further my quest for the channel of which I seek with the aid of your swifty command |
| 20:51.36 | simonrvn | hehehe, awesome |
| 20:51.40 | grivell | hacim: PPC64 is no biggie. Kernel supports it. And its backwards compat. Unless you have more than 4 gigs ram. |
| 20:52.17 | hacim | grivell: yes, well I was noting that there are no automatic buildd in debian for ppc64, but there are some for powerpc |
| 20:52.26 | simonrvn | yeh, on ppc, it's a whole other ball game. user space can esily support it. ppc was designed as a 64 bit chip, with a "sub-section" for 32 |
| 20:53.03 | simonrvn | so it's not so much of a jump as it is for x86... unless i'm talking outta my ass, then ignore me |
| 20:53.04 | hacim | grivell: and as we all know, kernels aren't the only piece of the puzzle, you need software that compiles on it, and some packages that I work on supposedly will compiled on ppc64 so I would like to make that happen |
| 20:53.36 | hacim | simonrvn: so if something compiles for arch powerpc it should work on ppc64? |
| 20:54.08 | simonrvn | with probably minor modifs if any. it just has to be re-built FAT or 64 only |
| 20:54.24 | hacim | hence the purpose of the buildd |
| 20:54.33 | hacim | to find what those minor mods are |
| 20:55.09 | simonrvn | yes, but someone has to donate a ppc64 box to debian ;). or check out the buildd.net folks, i think they're planning for such a thing |
| 20:56.36 | hacim | simonrvn: this is why I am here, i've been all over the buildd.net site and have seen that there is a debian ppc64 effort (alioth project and all) so I figured they must have a machine or two |
| 20:56.45 | hacim | but they are probably private and not part of buildd |
| 20:57.09 | simonrvn | no, it's not official per se |
| 20:57.18 | al_ | maybe the ubuntu project has ppc64 boxes ? |
| 20:57.22 | simonrvn | to debian's loss, IMO |
| 20:57.24 | grivell | But you are missing the point. Nothing will work magically better because its compile for 64 bit. If you don't have more than 4 GB ram, and the app doesn't go above 4 GB usage, than it is no gain. Yet Debian and mirrors will have another huge arch to distrib. |
| 20:57.52 | simonrvn | grivell: no, i don't believe i am missing the point |
| 20:58.01 | hacim | grivell: it isn't about working better, its about working at all |
| 20:58.08 | simonrvn | yes |
| 20:58.41 | simonrvn | hacim: here's what it comes own to: it works, just don't have the user space as FAT or 64-only. |
| 20:58.45 | grivell | hacim: 32 bit PPC apps work on PPC64 with a Kernel that support 64 bit. |
| 20:58.48 | simonrvn | s/own/down/ |
| 20:59.14 | simonrvn | there are other distros that have 64 bit user space |
| 20:59.50 | hacim | i see, so if I can get my app to compile on ppc32 it will work on ppc64 |
| 20:59.58 | grivell | yes |
| 21:00.05 | simonrvn | um, just go for a 2.6 kernel, and you should be ok as to kernel support |
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| 21:01.04 | simonrvn | and in my recent download of the debian patches for 2.6.10, i note several useful patches, including security-related ones, so i'd just go for that |
| 21:02.14 | hacim | i am simply trying to get packages that I maintain to work in the ppc environment |
| 21:02.37 | simonrvn | that's fine |
| 21:03.22 | hacim | anyhow thanks for your explanations |
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| 21:36.14 | ShadowRage | fuck |
| 21:36.17 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: help |
| 21:36.25 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: I cant log in at all |
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| 21:36.40 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: my shells on my ppc won't execute |
| 21:36.58 | simonrvn | hold up, busy ATM |
| 21:37.04 | simonrvn | be right with you |
| 21:37.05 | ShadowRage | because of some shit in the profile and rc files |
| 21:39.51 | simonrvn | log in as another user if it isn't system-wide |
| 21:40.10 | ShadowRage | cant log in as root ia ssh |
| 21:40.30 | simonrvn | "as another user" i didn't say "as root" |
| 21:40.42 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 21:40.48 | ShadowRage | well that's the only other user |
| 21:40.52 | ShadowRage | and yes |
| 21:40.55 | ShadowRage | it's system wide |
| 21:41.05 | simonrvn | oh. then boot from another medium, and fix the files |
| 21:42.05 | ShadowRage | HA |
| 21:42.07 | ShadowRage | got it |
| 21:42.10 | simonrvn | good |
| 21:42.15 | simonrvn | :) |
| 21:42.16 | ShadowRage | I just executed a non-shell |
| 21:42.24 | ShadowRage | editor to edit the bad files |
| 21:42.25 | ShadowRage | ;D |
| 21:42.32 | simonrvn | nice ;) |
| 21:42.40 | ShadowRage | oh |
| 21:42.43 | ShadowRage | this is cute |
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| 21:42.53 | ShadowRage | it's not responding to my kbd input |
| 21:43.11 | simonrvn | exited the editor? |
| 21:44.04 | ShadowRage | /usr/bin/pico: /usr/bin/pico: cannot execute binary file |
| 21:44.09 | ShadowRage | wtf |
| 21:44.14 | ShadowRage | now it's doing that |
| 21:45.04 | simonrvn | ok, connect via another ssh session |
| 21:45.57 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: how? |
| 21:46.05 | ShadowRage | what do you mean? |
| 21:46.09 | simonrvn | from another terminal... |
| 21:46.24 | ShadowRage | I have |
| 21:46.27 | ShadowRage | that's the problem |
| 21:46.30 | ShadowRage | I cant SSH in |
| 21:46.39 | ShadowRage | I cant do anything |
| 21:47.17 | simonrvn | sec |
| 21:48.34 | ShadowRage | got it |
| 21:48.38 | ShadowRage | had to resort to scp |
| 21:48.42 | ShadowRage | turns out there was a loop |
| 21:49.39 | simonrvn | ah |
| 21:51.06 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: alright, new question.. how do I get kernel 2.6 installed? |
| 21:51.14 | ShadowRage | isnt showing up on apt-cache |
| 21:51.20 | simonrvn | sarge, woody? |
| 21:51.38 | ShadowRage | debian 3.0 |
| 21:51.49 | simonrvn | woody. it won't. upgrade to sarge |
| 21:52.01 | ShadowRage | dont have that option... |
| 21:52.10 | ShadowRage | how do I upgrade to sarge? |
| 21:52.35 | simonrvn | ravenbird: woody->sarge |
| 21:52.37 | ravenbird | it has been said that woody->sarge is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" or "stable" to "sarge", or "testing". testing *is* sarge currently.. Then "apt-get update" and "apt-get dselect-upgrade". |
| 21:52.41 | simonrvn | ^^ |
| 21:52.56 | ShadowRage | thanks |
| 21:53.04 | simonrvn | np |
| 21:53.56 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: uhh.. no mentions whatsoever |
| 21:54.25 | simonrvn | should have "woody" or "stable" in /etc/apt/sources.list... |
| 21:54.57 | simonrvn | that's what you change to "sarge" or "testing" |
| 21:55.04 | ShadowRage | has stable |
| 21:55.28 | simonrvn | ok, you have 2 otpions, each will do something different once sarge is stable |
| 21:55.32 | simonrvn | opt* |
| 21:56.07 | simonrvn | if you put "sarge", it'll keep tracking sarge, even when it goes stable. if you put testing, it'll always track whatever testing is |
| 21:56.18 | simonrvn | (which will be etch when sarge releases) |
| 21:57.34 | ShadowRage | ah there we go |
| 21:57.37 | simonrvn | it's proably updating. wait a few minutes |
| 21:57.46 | simonrvn | prob* |
| 21:57.54 | ShadowRage | ever seen uwoody |
| 21:58.03 | ShadowRage | uclibc based debian distro |
| 21:58.06 | ShadowRage | all the packages are tiny |
| 21:58.07 | simonrvn | no |
| 21:58.08 | ShadowRage | x86 only |
| 21:58.25 | ShadowRage | would be sweet if there was a ppc version |
| 21:58.38 | ShadowRage | that would be a win |
| 21:58.42 | ShadowRage | the xfree86 package is only 3 mb |
| 21:58.46 | simonrvn | heh |
| 22:00.40 | ShadowRage | because this is gonna suck |
| 22:00.44 | ShadowRage | 56k and all |
| 22:00.55 | ShadowRage | how long do you think the update will take? |
| 22:01.35 | ShadowRage | I have 5 and a half hours left to use the internet before my sis kicks me off |
| 22:01.57 | ShadowRage | regardless if it fucks anything of mine up |
| 22:02.03 | simonrvn | depends how large the upgrade is |
| 22:02.16 | ShadowRage | she also kicked me off when I needed the internet for an assignment |
| 22:02.21 | simonrvn | apt-get is sessioned. as in, it has resume |
| 22:02.21 | ShadowRage | that's how hooked she is. |
| 22:02.55 | simonrvn | get dsl if you can.. |
| 22:03.43 | ShadowRage | http://www.uclibc.org/dists/ |
| 22:03.50 | ShadowRage | I cant |
| 22:03.55 | ShadowRage | I'm not made of money |
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| 22:04.04 | ShadowRage | and my phone company falt out denies me dsl |
| 22:04.09 | ShadowRage | even though I'm eligible |
| 22:04.16 | ShadowRage | flat* |
| 22:05.05 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: http://www.uclibc.org/dists/ look at the package sizes |
| 22:09.22 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: how do I list the installed pkgs? |
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| 22:09.36 | simonrvn | man dpkg; dpkg -l |
| 22:11.54 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: 332 packages |
| 22:12.12 | ShadowRage | simonrvn: can I send you the list? |
| 22:12.27 | simonrvn | why would i want the list? doesn't tell me anything |
| 22:12.50 | simonrvn | it should have told you how large the download is going to be |
| 22:13.40 | ShadowRage | still downloading the list |
| 22:16.00 | simonrvn | "ii" and *i" tells you what is actually installed.. |
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| 22:17.53 | ShadowRage | what does rc mean? |
| 22:18.27 | one_2_one | realease candidate |
| 22:18.32 | one_2_one | i think |
| 22:18.39 | ShadowRage | k |
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| 22:19.19 | abdci | greetings dudes |
| 22:19.43 | aba | either release candidate, or release critical, depending on the context. |
| 22:20.11 | abdci | hai |
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| 22:21.11 | crypt_ | does anybody know the timings for the 17 powerbook, {XF86} ? |
| 22:21.28 | ShadowRage | I wish ppc was better supported |
| 22:21.29 | abdci | has anyone tried 2.6.x on a wallstreet mac here ??? :) |
| 22:21.38 | ShadowRage | someone needs to make a computer that ahs an x86 and ppc cpu installed |
| 22:21.42 | ShadowRage | has* |
| 22:21.55 | ShadowRage | prob is.. that'd only attract the geek crowd |
| 22:22.00 | ShadowRage | didnt apple do that once? |
| 22:22.22 | ShadowRage | waaay back with the IIe, there was an addon with an 8086 cpu that allowed you to run dos on an apple |
| 22:22.27 | abdci | has anyone tried 2.6.x on a wallstreet mac here ??? :) :) |
| 22:22.51 | ShadowRage | and even the first windows or something like that? |
| 22:23.20 | abdci | the reason I ask is because of the flakyness of bootx |
| 22:24.32 | simonrvn | ShadowRage: rc means config remian. dpkg -l | head -10 will l tell you as much |
| 22:24.42 | simonrvn | remain |
| 22:24.51 | abdci | ok dudes cheers and have a great day :) |
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| 22:29.26 | ShadowRage | http://www.xfce.org/ |
| 22:29.29 | ShadowRage | ! |
| 22:29.32 | ShadowRage | sweet! |
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| 22:30.46 | simonrvn | see the mailing list for ppc .debs |
| 22:31.16 | ShadowRage | screw my ppc mac atm. I'm downloading this for my main machine |
| 22:32.09 | SeaForth | anyone able to help me with a varargs.h to stdarg.h question? |
| 22:32.18 | simonrvn | #c maybe |
| 22:32.18 | dj-death | http://krystale.net/files/screenshot/88886e90f39c423e00a1aa501804485e.png |
| 22:32.26 | dj-death | nice ? no ? ;) |
| 22:33.21 | SeaForth | got this header |
| 22:33.22 | SeaForth | char *form (va_alist) |
| 22:33.22 | SeaForth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.43 | SeaForth | needs to work with the new stdarg |
| 22:34.46 | dj-death | ? |
| 22:35.00 | dj-death | what's the problem with vaargs ? |
| 22:36.05 | simonrvn | SeaForth: dunno... ask in #c. |
| 22:36.17 | simonrvn | proper place for it |
| 22:37.29 | crypt_ | <PROTECTED> |
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