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| 04:51.52 | bchoward | anyone had trouble with a 2.6.10 kernel needed binutils higher than what come with debian? |
| 04:52.28 | bchoward | I'm compiling my kernel, and the make-kpkg script dies complaining I need newer binutils, although ld -v would suggest that what I have is ok |
| 04:52.34 | simonrvn | don't build 2.6 on woody |
| 04:53.01 | chrisa | Unless you get relevant backports at least |
| 04:53.12 | simonrvn | that ^^^ is why. 2nd reason being it doesn't have module-init-tools |
| 04:53.27 | simonrvn | chrisa: hehehe, PPC backports... |
| 04:53.32 | bchoward | I know abotu the modutils, so I just disabled modules |
| 04:53.47 | simonrvn | no, module-init-tools |
| 04:53.55 | simonrvn | different set of s/w |
| 04:54.02 | bchoward | how/what/where would I get these backports you speak of |
| 04:54.06 | chrisa | simonrvn: Good point |
| 04:54.25 | bchoward | simonrvn: I know - I've done the whole mod-init-tools dance - I mistyped because my mind is fried from the never-ending iq test :) |
| 04:54.35 | simonrvn | be better off fetching sarge's binutils and building that on a woody box |
| 04:54.48 | bchoward | simonrvn: how woudl I do that |
| 04:55.06 | simonrvn | @info binutils sarge |
| 04:55.13 | bchoward | simonrvn: I'm not overly familiar with the debian package system beyond the basic apt-get stuff |
| 04:55.49 | ravenbird | binutils: (The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities), section devel, is standard. Version: 2.15-5 (testing), Packaged size: 2277 kB, Installed size: 6552 kB |
| 04:56.11 | bchoward | simonrvn: but how would I go about getting and isntalling that package |
| 04:56.24 | bchoward | apt-get install binutils tells me I'm up to date |
| 04:57.00 | simonrvn | fetch the appropriate .dsc, .orig.tar.gz and .diff for that ^^version from your local mirror's pool/main/b/binutils/ dir |
| 04:57.38 | bchoward | so there's no easy way to do this with apt-get or dpkg... |
| 04:57.50 | simonrvn | install build-essential and apt-get build-dep binutils |
| 04:57.53 | bchoward | would it be easier to just remove the package and build it from source myself |
| 04:58.06 | simonrvn | dude, it's a less than 5 minutes download on dsl/cable... |
| 04:58.21 | simonrvn | that is *not* hard |
| 04:58.51 | simonrvn | oh, add fakeroot to that list. |
| 04:58.52 | bchoward | I'm not complaing about the download |
| 04:59.10 | bchoward | I just don't don't know a .dsc from my ass |
| 04:59.26 | simonrvn | isn't hard to do either. www.debian.org/devel/ and look for new maintainer's guide |
| 04:59.29 | bchoward | and I don't want to mess up the whole debian thing by just going and buiding my own |
| 04:59.34 | bchoward | k |
| 04:59.48 | simonrvn | um, you're the one wanting a 2.6 kernel, deal with it |
| 05:00.15 | bchoward | :) |
| 05:00.18 | bchoward | good point |
| 05:00.31 | bchoward | that's the best irc topic I've ever seen |
| 05:00.36 | bchoward | its so true |
| 05:00.54 | simonrvn | you can always upgrade to sarge, and be done with it. you might as well fetch module-init-tools, since you need it for the kernel build anyway if you're to have modules |
| 05:01.02 | simonrvn | ...if you stick to woody |
| 05:01.20 | bchoward | and I would upgrade to sarge by...... |
| 05:01.23 | bchoward | (sorry - last dumb question) |
| 05:01.31 | simonrvn | ravenbird: woody->sarge |
| 05:01.32 | ravenbird | woody->sarge is probably edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" or "stable" to "sarge", or "testing". testing *is* sarge currently.. Then "apt-get update" and "apt-get dselect-upgrade". |
| 05:01.42 | bchoward | ok |
| 05:02.00 | bchoward | I actually tried that, but I was changing stable to unstable instead of testing, and it was barfing all over the place |
| 05:02.25 | simonrvn | no kidding. that's sid ;) |
| 05:02.47 | bchoward | I'm not down with sid sarge and woody clearly |
| 05:03.14 | simonrvn | woody == stable, sarge == testing, sid == unstable. sid will always be unstable. |
| 05:03.26 | simonrvn | (no, i didn't type that fast) |
| 05:03.32 | bchoward | I was going to say |
| 05:04.22 | bchoward | I think I'll give that a shot |
| 05:04.31 | bchoward | and if it doesn't work, I'll just suck it up and go back to my 2.4 kernel |
| 05:04.46 | bchoward | thanks for all your help |
| 05:04.55 | simonrvn | yup |
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| 05:06.56 | bchoward | goodnight |
| 06:47.22 | vovka | re |
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| 07:09.49 | vovka | svenl: morning |
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| 08:43.02 | svenl | hi vovka |
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| 09:55.01 | Joersch | hi all |
| 09:55.53 | Joersch | short question, maybe simonrvn can answer, doesnt it work booting a kernel with bootX? and how can i set the root device? |
| 10:00.37 | pahartik | Joersch: it does work |
| 10:01.59 | Joersch | pahartik, and how, the problem is... i set root=/dev/hda6, but the kernel stops with "VFS cant find suitable root device at block(0,0)" |
| 10:06.24 | pahartik | Joersch: maybe you forgot to tell BootX where "initrd image" is located? |
| 10:07.06 | Joersch | pahartik, maybe, but which should i choose, because it should boot from disk? |
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| 12:03.36 | one_2_one | hi ppl |
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| 13:22.09 | simonrvn | bootx doesn't do initrds |
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| 15:38.43 | dadexter | anyone here use debian-m68k, or strictly ppc? |
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| 15:39.59 | simonrvn | see channel name. may want linux-m68k or such. /msg chanserv list regex pattern |
| 15:40.21 | dadexter | now what didn't you tell me that in #debian? :P |
| 15:41.55 | dadexter | I can't do a good channel list request, I don't know anything about regex |
| 15:42.46 | simonrvn | easy one is a glob: *channel* |
| 15:42.58 | dadexter | that's it? |
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| 15:43.05 | simonrvn | actually, i think it only works with globbing ;) |
| 15:45.28 | grivell | dadexter: Whats your irc client? |
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| 15:46.53 | dadexter | xchat |
| 15:48.03 | grivell | You have Channe list in xchat |
| 15:51.20 | simonrvn | ^l or something |
| 15:55.55 | dadexter | ya I know |
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| 22:06.42 | Piru | damn. kernel panic |
| 22:37.52 | Q-FUNK | hmm |
| 22:38.13 | Q-FUNK | lots of alsa-pmac commits in kernel 2.6 cvs |
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| 22:43.06 | al_ | hi |
| 22:43.20 | al_ | do you know which apple laptops had a trackball ? |
| 22:45.00 | al_ | ok, found a website. |
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| 23:38.26 | chrisa | So after a few hours of poking / prodding, I've determined that ibook g4s are not meant to be taken apart |
| 23:38.37 | LarstiQ | hehe |
| 23:38.53 | chrisa | I cannot get the hard disk out and no one else on google seems to have either |
| 23:39.07 | LarstiQ | tried site:jp? |
| 23:41.16 | chrisa | wow, this time searching I found a french site with pictures on how to disassemble it |
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