| 00:00.05 | simonrvn | dunno |
| 00:00.06 | Dabian | oh .. nvidea wont work at all? |
| 00:00.17 | Dabian | like ..w ell, vesa and thats it :P |
| 00:00.53 | simonrvn | not in linux (the nvidia) |
| 00:01.08 | Dabian | I have nvidea now .. but it taints my kernel. |
| 00:01.15 | Dabian | Works like a charm though. |
| 00:02.01 | Dabian | I do dislike binary modules .. but I like 3d-animations .. so tainting the kernel was a tradeoff. |
| 00:02.08 | simonrvn | heh |
| 00:09.28 | Dabian | Ok .. I placed a comment on the "abstimmung" page .. maybe someone will answer my call. :) |
| 00:10.02 | Dabian | simonrvn: IIRC, most people in here try to get old macs, and don't use 3d-graphics and stuff much, right? |
| 00:10.21 | simonrvn | depends |
| 00:11.21 | Dabian | I talked to one in here once, that did some 3d-stuff .. but he had a pc for it, and used the mac for other stuff. :/ |
| 00:17.57 | Dabian | Then again, I've not lingered much in here. |
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| 00:34.49 | simonrvn | fucking stupid ntp clients with dates like from 1992 to 2013.... |
| 00:35.19 | demon | ntp clients? uh... broken? |
| 00:36.11 | demon | I can't imagine that being caused by something other than a little-endian system running a client that doesn't understand the concept of MSB |
| 00:37.40 | simonrvn | very borken. trying to sync to today. it'll take til heat death of the universe to sync... |
| 00:38.42 | demon | lovely |
| 00:43.58 | simonrvn | there. that should cut down on the udp traffic |
| 00:45.41 | simonrvn | 47 7 532 REJECT # that shouldn't happen. should be something like once per 2 hours for a v3 client, and once per 1024 sec for a v4 client, once they're synced |
| 00:46.14 | simonrvn | 47 18 1368 |
| 00:46.20 | simonrvn | like WTF |
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| 00:58.03 | randyg | sigh :( |
| 00:58.56 | randyg | haven't seen one of our cats since yesterday morning |
| 00:59.34 | simonrvn | ouch. they used to going outside? |
| 00:59.47 | randyg | they spend about 50% of the time outside |
| 00:59.58 | randyg | but normally they always come back at night... |
| 01:00.52 | simonrvn | keep an ear out for scratching at the door |
| 01:01.14 | randyg | we searched our property (one acre), including all the buildings... |
| 01:01.20 | randyg | and under all the buildings |
| 01:01.26 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 01:02.08 | randyg | he rarely leaves the property |
| 01:02.12 | randyg | not good :( |
| 01:02.43 | simonrvn | i hope he comes back. could've stumbled on a female in heat too. |
| 01:02.49 | randyg | he's fixed |
| 01:03.04 | simonrvn | oh |
| 01:04.41 | simonrvn | call out with your mind to him to come back. picture him in your mind, then call him to come back, then forget about having done that |
| 01:04.58 | randyg | not sure that works. |
| 01:05.47 | randyg | we tried opening a can of tuna outside... normally that makes him come running from anwhere within the state... nothing. :( |
| 01:06.25 | randyg | I'll print up some fliers tonight |
| 01:06.29 | simonrvn | ok |
| 01:07.22 | randyg | he was in pretty good health (except for being overweight), so we don't think he left to die... |
| 01:07.41 | simonrvn | ok |
| 01:07.52 | randyg | but, it's very unlike him to vanish. :( |
| 01:09.02 | simonrvn | :/ |
| 01:15.57 | simonrvn | i hope he comes back soon |
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| 02:30.17 | dodgyville | Hello |
| 02:30.27 | simonrvn | hi |
| 02:32.29 | dodgyville | I installed sarge on an ibook, but sound does not work (/dev/dsp not found). Is this mostly likely an incorrectly configured driver or the wrong driver all together? |
| 02:33.05 | simonrvn | kernel version? did you follow /msg ravenbird audio? using OSS or ALSA? |
| 02:37.04 | dodgyville | simonrvn: sarge 2.6.8ppc. This is using OSS, but ALSA doesn't seem to work either. I'm just doing the raven stuff now (thanks) |
| 02:42.43 | dodgyville | I just lspci and I got to a reference to an "Unknown Header Type 7f". This is on an ibook. The sound card and modem don't seem to be listed. |
| 02:43.15 | simonrvn | there's a script to update the pciid file |
| 02:43.29 | simonrvn | (which lives in /usr/share/misc) |
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| 02:46.31 | dodgyville | Should my ppc have OSS and/or ALSA installed, or should it have dmasound? |
| 02:47.47 | simonrvn | dmasound is oss. alsa drivers are recognised by their snd-/snd_ prefix |
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| 02:52.42 | jakollasch | where do i find the driver for an OldWorld's onboard audio (awacs) ? |
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| 02:54.26 | demon | modprobe dmasound_pmac, or modprobe snd_powermac |
| 02:54.43 | demon | depending on whether you want the OSS or ALSA driver |
| 02:55.58 | dodgyville | I'm running a test song in xmms, the equaliser is jumping about but there is no sound. The volume control on the gnome taskbar won't leave zero, and aumix quits with an "error opening mixer". There is no /dev/mixer... |
| 02:57.09 | chrisa | Gnome's volume control is likely missing a gstreamer component (it doesn't explicitly dep on it) |
| 02:58.00 | dodgyville | chrisa: But the lack of /dev/mixer? |
| 02:58.15 | demon | did you load the ALSA driver? |
| 02:58.23 | demon | if so, try 'modprobe snd_pcm_oss' |
| 02:58.37 | demon | that'll enable OSS compatibility |
| 02:58.40 | jakollasch | demon: thanks |
| 03:00.04 | dodgyville | Where is the mixer device using only ALSA? Or is there no problem using OSS compat layer? |
| 03:04.33 | dodgyville | Well, snd_pcm_oss got it working thanks! |
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| 05:29.21 | Overfux0red | I, uh, kinda fucked myself and rendered my single-boot PowerMac Dual G4 non-second-stage bootable. Anyone awake who wants to take pity? |
| 05:29.59 | Overfux0red | (the good news, I have an iBook at the ready, and the hosed machine booted into FireWire target mode; the bad news, I'm not clear on what to do next) |
| 06:09.42 | randyg | grr. microsoft's "how to keep your child safe on the internet" instructions are the type of thing that really piss me off... more like "how to completely and totally invade your child's rights". |
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| 06:12.02 | randyg | I do hope any parent who actually listens to microsoft is clubbed to death as a public service |
| 06:41.15 | grivell | randyg: Children have no rights. |
| 06:41.25 | grivell | Sorry, but if you aren't 18, you have zero rights. |
| 06:42.24 | grivell | Parents do have rights. The right to raise *their* children how they want. Which is why I hate the attacks on video game companies, movie companies, music, etc. |
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| 07:52.13 | randyg | @away |
| 07:52.14 | ravenbird | rumour has it, away is We don't care if you're 'afk', 'having a shower' or 'doing my wife'. If we really want to know, we'll /whois you. so please disable any public messages your client sends when you go /away or come back. If everyone did something annoying, we'd never get any conversation in. |
| 07:59.09 | randyg | simonrvn: talked to the neighbor... one of her cats is missing too. :( |
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| 08:23.00 | ds9 | I just tried the latest beta of gnoppix : it works fine . Nice work. Sole problem : it's slow due to slow CDROM |
| 08:26.11 | pahartik | ds9: live-CD for PowerPC? |
| 08:29.14 | ds9 | yes |
| 08:29.36 | ds9 | http://source.rfc822.org/pub/local/gnoppix/gnoppix/beta/hoary_0.9.3b3-powerpc.iso |
| 08:32.58 | pahartik | ds9: just got to wonder if usual live-CD distribution would be faster on DVD+RW media |
| 08:35.05 | ds9 | pahartik: Apple shipped some slow devices on ibook G3 ... Maybe recent ones offer faster stuff especially for DVD |
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| 09:19.51 | Rionda | hello |
| 09:22.32 | Rionda | is there any major change that would suggest to update from 2.6.6 to 2.6.10 ? |
| 09:32.42 | randyg | Rionda: a bunch of usb fixes |
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| 09:35.21 | Rionda | randyg: k. Btw, are orinoco drivers in the vanilla tree patched so that monitor mode does work ? |
| 09:40.14 | randyg | no clue :) |
| 09:41.35 | Rionda | thx anyway |
| 10:03.27 | simonrvn | randyg: uh oh |
| 10:03.58 | randyg | simonrvn: yep :( |
| 10:04.55 | simonrvn | Rionda: security fixes too. debian source includes the uselib() and do_brk() patches for 2.6.10 |
| 10:08.03 | al_ | mmh |
| 10:08.11 | al_ | i'm looking for a way to put /dev on a ramdisk |
| 10:08.55 | simonrvn | tmpfs. it's resizable and not limited by what hardcoded size you put in .config |
| 10:09.13 | simonrvn | look at the udev init script for pointers |
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| 10:12.52 | al_ | simonrvn, do i need a initrd to do that ? |
| 10:12.58 | simonrvn | no |
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| 10:17.25 | al_ | apt-get is soooooo slow with 23 bogomips |
| 10:23.59 | simonrvn | eek. is this the m68k lappy? |
| 10:24.12 | al_ | no, a 486 |
| 10:24.13 | al_ | [shatzy:~] root# /etc/init.d/udev start |
| 10:24.13 | al_ | udev requires hotplug support, not started. |
| 10:24.13 | al_ | [shatzy:~] root# /etc/init.d/hotplug start |
| 10:24.13 | al_ | Kernel hotplug support not enabled. |
| 10:24.16 | al_ | gmgmmgnmgmngmnm |
| 10:25.12 | simonrvn | no, i meant to just look at the script's internals to see how to get a tmpfs |
| 10:25.14 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 15:40.12 | dj-death | dopes someone have an ibook G4 here ? |
| 15:40.44 | dj-death | -p |
| 15:42.19 | chrisa | ravenbird: ibook g4 |
| 15:42.19 | ravenbird | ibook G4 info: Suspend to ram (aka: sleep) works with the benh patches available at http://gate.crashing.org/~benh/ . The Airport Extreme card does not work, common suggestions are a usb device such as the DWL-122 or MA111. If you're really desperate for an X config try looking at http://linux.nullcode.org/ . |
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| 15:44.42 | dj-death | I would like to record what I'm playing |
| 15:44.54 | dj-death | I set up a .asoundrc |
| 15:44.55 | chrisa | This sounds like a #debian question already |
| 15:45.01 | dj-death | ok |
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| 17:50.17 | jc-denton | what about a ppc g5 howto? |
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| 18:05.47 | dj-death | do you think there will be a ppc64 port of debian ? |
| 18:07.19 | jc-denton | me? |
| 18:07.27 | dj-death | everyone ;) |
| 18:07.35 | jc-denton | do u think sarge will ever be released? |
| 18:07.48 | dj-death | yes, i think it will |
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| 18:07.55 | dj-death | :) |
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| 22:48.31 | abofaisal | Has anyone tried installing DebianPPC on a Mac Mini yet? |
| 22:48.42 | simonrvn | no |
| 22:48.49 | al_ | hey, they won't be sold before tomorrow in the US |
| 22:48.53 | al_ | wait some weeks :) |
| 22:50.21 | abofaisal | they were sold today |
| 22:50.55 | al_ | oh, ok |
| 22:52.30 | simonrvn | grivell got one. he might install it. ask him |
| 22:52.53 | abofaisal | Just curious, is it possible to install Debian on a Firewire drive? |
| 22:53.29 | simonrvn | yes |
| 22:53.45 | simonrvn | debootstrap or otherwise "normal" install |
| 22:53.52 | abofaisal | Easily, or does one need to go through many steps like with YDL? |
| 22:55.30 | abofaisal | I have a powermac and an ibook with OS X.. but I'm thinking of picking up a mac mini and using it as a nice linux server (maybe part time desktop) |
| 22:55.43 | abofaisal | would be easy to just tuck away behind my display and hook a kvm up to |
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| 22:56.18 | simonrvn | certainly less of a PITA to install via debootstrap or otherwise |
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| 23:43.03 | simonrvn | no it isn't |
| 23:43.08 | linux_newbie | oh, ok |
| 23:43.19 | simonrvn | #osx or #opendarwin |
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