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| 00:05.37 | xbaez | hello |
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| 00:26.03 | dodgyville | Hello |
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| 00:29.33 | dodgyville | x and gnome seem very unstable on my ibook. The system just drops out every few minutes and x-server has to restart. The XF86Config-4 log says fatal server error, caught signal 11. Is this gnome or X do you think? |
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| 00:34.13 | simonrvn | x |
| 00:34.34 | simonrvn | hi sourdough |
| 00:35.13 | dodgyville | simonrvn: Thanks |
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| 00:40.31 | dodgyville | Is the r128 driver reliable? |
| 00:40.58 | simonrvn | haven't heard anything really bad about it |
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| 00:56.18 | xbaez | someone knows if the alsa-base package is broke ? |
| 00:56.51 | dj-death | hmm |
| 00:56.57 | xbaez | when i try to install say me that is broken |
| 00:57.00 | dj-death | not here |
| 00:59.15 | xbaez | hmm ok |
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| 01:11.29 | randyg | dodgyville: X sig11 errors are always X, kernel, or hardware problems... sig11s should never happen. :) |
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| 01:12.22 | dodgyville | randyg: :( ... is there a tool to test the hardware on this ibook? ie memory and/or pci bus? It would be good to know if it was hardware |
| 01:13.06 | randyg | does gcc sig11 when compiling the kernel? :) |
| 01:13.57 | dodgyville | randyg: I'm not compiling the kernel. Not going to happen. |
| 01:14.56 | randyg | every time I've had marginal hardware, gcc crashing during kernel compiles was always the first sign |
| 01:20.37 | xbaez | there is an gdesklet that say the status og battery ? |
| 01:21.47 | chrisa | fuckifiknow |
| 01:22.55 | xbaez | uh? |
| 01:24.31 | chrisa | Ask in #debian |
| 01:25.42 | dodgyville | xbaez: Yes there is. pmud |
| 01:25.52 | dodgyville | xbaez: Ask in #gnome |
| 01:30.04 | xbaez | mmh if i install pmud i have to remove pbbutonsd and i not want remove t |
| 01:31.06 | chrisa | pmud has nothing to do with gdesklets |
| 01:31.14 | chrisa | So either he misunderstood you or you misunderstood him |
| 01:33.23 | simonrvn | gdesklets is a waste of cpu |
| 01:35.18 | xbaez | i just want to know what is the status of my battery |
| 01:36.54 | chrisa | xbaez: There are a few battery applets |
| 01:36.58 | chrisa | Or you can use the cli programs |
| 01:37.15 | chrisa | hell, I had my bash prompt tell me my battery life for a while (that was funny) |
| 01:46.50 | xbaez | chrisa, ok thanks :) |
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| 02:09.43 | randyg | am I the only one here who can't stand gnome? :) |
| 02:10.11 | simonrvn | i'm in openbox 3 most of the time nowadays |
| 02:10.34 | randyg | hrmm, never used it |
| 02:11.11 | xbaez | neither i |
| 02:11.23 | simonrvn | the overall style is like fluxbox and blackbox, but the code is new, and follows the "desktop standards" |
| 02:11.33 | simonrvn | (freedesktop.org) |
| 02:11.57 | randyg | I'm an icewm fan... fast, light, and doesn't have the word "desktop" anywhere in it. :) |
| 02:12.09 | chrisa | xfce myself |
| 02:12.28 | simonrvn | that's the other i use, xfce4 |
| 02:12.34 | chrisa | I used openbox3 since release (hell, I maintain openbox-themes) but it's dead upstream |
| 02:12.44 | simonrvn | seems to be |
| 02:12.49 | chrisa | upstream traded his life for FFXI |
| 02:12.59 | simonrvn | for what? |
| 02:13.02 | randyg | ffxi? |
| 02:13.05 | chrisa | Mikachu has been putting out tiny patches here and there, but that's it |
| 02:13.51 | simonrvn | #define FFXI |
| 02:14.57 | randyg | well? :) |
| 02:15.08 | chrisa | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FFXI |
| 02:15.10 | chrisa | Lazy bastards |
| 02:15.17 | simonrvn | haha |
| 02:15.47 | randyg | bah, game stuff |
| 02:15.49 | simonrvn | final fantasy xi |
| 02:15.55 | simonrvn | bleh |
| 02:16.19 | simonrvn | chrisa: the joke died on the operating table |
| 02:16.38 | chrisa | I never made a joke |
| 02:16.48 | simonrvn | yes you did ;P |
| 02:16.52 | chrisa | The guy literally stopped talking to people to play that game |
| 02:17.00 | simonrvn | holy crap :( |
| 02:17.16 | chrisa | Maybe he quit, dunno. Haven't heard from him in ages |
| 02:17.26 | randyg | (found using wikipedia's random page feature, of course. :) |
| 02:17.49 | randyg | that's almost as sad as the people spending thousands of dollars to purchase in-game objects |
| 02:18.05 | simonrvn | o_O |
| 02:19.01 | randyg | simonrvn: did you see the article about some guy spending $25,000 for an island in some game? |
| 02:19.16 | chrisa | I can't laugh at that guy |
| 02:19.23 | chrisa | He's likely going to make a huge profit |
| 02:19.25 | simonrvn | no. thank $deities i didn't otherwise i would've puked |
| 02:20.02 | chrisa | If you read the purpose of the game, then look at how much he can sell those properties for to other people.... he looks like the smart one |
| 02:20.46 | randyg | chrisa: and what happens when the company goes bust/something else, and his "investment" is filed in the bitbucket? |
| 02:21.22 | chrisa | randyg: What happens when the stock market crashes? In both cases they're bits of paper saying you own something |
| 02:21.52 | randyg | which is why I don't have investments. :) |
| 02:21.56 | simonrvn | both are virtual. both are a waste of money ;) |
| 02:22.27 | randyg | lol |
| 02:23.02 | randyg | I should spend more time on my muck... money will be useless in it. :) |
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| 03:56.10 | mfitch | anyone in here? |
| 03:56.17 | mfitch | and anyone in here using maconlinux? |
| 03:56.24 | randyg | @ask |
| 03:56.36 | randyg | hrmm |
| 03:56.49 | mfitch | do you know why maconlinux says volumes are locked when they aren't |
| 03:56.57 | mfitch | and mine isn't even mounted or anything |
| 03:57.08 | randyg | brb |
| 03:57.14 | mfitch | its not being used at all by the system as far as I can tell |
| 03:57.15 | mfitch | ok |
| 03:57.26 | demon | did you edit the MOL config file? |
| 03:57.32 | mfitch | yep |
| 03:57.37 | mfitch | molrc.macosx |
| 03:57.40 | demon | and are you using the OS X install in a partition? |
| 03:57.52 | mfitch | the os x install? |
| 03:58.11 | demon | yeah, you're using a preexisting installation of it? |
| 03:58.14 | mfitch | yea |
| 03:58.31 | mfitch | why, does MOL want it's own install or something? |
| 03:58.50 | demon | did you edit the config file to mount the disk(s) read-write? by default, I believe it mounts read only |
| 03:59.00 | demon | no, it can use a preexisting install |
| 03:59.06 | mfitch | yea, it was actually already set to -rw |
| 03:59.10 | mfitch | by default |
| 03:59.23 | mfitch | I know in the old configs, it was set to -ro default |
| 03:59.44 | mfitch | but in this one (the configs are seperate by OS), it is already set to -rw |
| 03:59.55 | demon | does it say that it's mounted read-write when you run 'startmol' ? |
| 04:00.18 | mfitch | it says "/dev/hda9 is locked" |
| 04:00.21 | mfitch | or something like that |
| 04:00.32 | mfitch | and its not mounted |
| 04:00.55 | demon | you don't have it mounted in linux, do you? |
| 04:01.25 | demon | hm... |
| 04:02.18 | mfitch | no not mounted in linux |
| 04:03.42 | mfitch | HFS+ /dev/hda9 G4 Drive <read-only> |
| 04:03.49 | mfitch | thats what it says on startmol |
| 04:04.00 | mfitch | and then it goes to that little penguin hugging an apple |
| 04:04.15 | mfitch | and then I press control command space and it goes back |
| 04:04.20 | demon | hm... |
| 04:04.51 | demon | did you try commenting out the blkdev: lines in molrc.osx, and add an explicit one for /dev/hda9, and see if that works better? |
| 04:07.11 | mfitch | hmm |
| 04:07.15 | mfitch | lemme try that |
| 04:08.55 | mfitch | still says locked |
| 04:09.19 | mfitch | also says "failed to open /dev/net/tun" |
| 04:09.49 | demon | hm... dunno why it insists the block dev is locked... seems like something would have to have it open... |
| 04:10.00 | mfitch | yea |
| 04:10.14 | mfitch | maybe some partition is being used |
| 04:10.16 | demon | try 'modprobe tun' to take care of the "failed to open /dev/net/tun" error |
| 04:10.23 | demon | well, it'd have to be that one |
| 04:10.34 | mfitch | do you know how to check to see if a device is in use? |
| 04:10.59 | demon | 'fuser -m /dev/hda9' <- try that |
| 04:12.42 | mfitch | hmmm |
| 04:12.44 | mfitch | nope |
| 04:12.53 | mfitch | what does 'fuser' do? |
| 04:13.11 | demon | did you run that as root? |
| 04:13.17 | mfitch | identify processes? |
| 04:13.21 | mfitch | yea as root |
| 04:13.23 | demon | fuser shows what processes have a device open |
| 04:13.28 | mfitch | all as root |
| 04:13.39 | demon | -m tells it to check to see if it's mounted as a filesystem |
| 04:14.27 | mfitch | do you think my drive permissions are set weird in mac os x? |
| 04:14.42 | demon | that wouldn't have anything to do with it |
| 04:14.53 | mfitch | hmmmm |
| 04:14.56 | demon | because it's just Linux trying to access the block device |
| 04:14.59 | mfitch | this is weird |
| 04:15.18 | mfitch | I saw some other people had the same problem like 5 years ago on the mac-on-linux forums |
| 04:15.28 | mfitch | and the threads never got resolved |
| 04:16.49 | mfitch | there is a yaboot.conf in the /etc/mol folder |
| 04:16.57 | mfitch | I wonder if that has something to do with it |
| 04:17.09 | demon | that's only related to booting a linux kernel in mol |
| 04:19.09 | mfitch | oh |
| 04:19.24 | mfitch | I wonder if my debian kernel will boot |
| 04:19.41 | demon | probably not |
| 04:21.10 | mfitch | yea |
| 04:21.22 | mfitch | I think I'm gonna go visit the #mol channel for a while |
| 04:21.39 | mfitch | and sense I'm typing from ircII, see ya later, and thanks for the help |
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| 05:11.19 | randyg | grrr. firefox died, this time in such a way that my mouse is stuck on a drag action, and my window manager ignores it. |
| 05:12.25 | randyg | killing firefox didn't fix it |
| 05:12.32 | Sam-I-Am | moo! |
| 05:13.27 | randyg | how do you tell X to reset everything to do with the cursor? (other than ctrl-alt-backspace. :) |
| 05:14.06 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:14.12 | Sam-I-Am | i dont think there is one |
| 05:16.54 | randyg | blah |
| 05:17.02 | randyg | right now I have no mouse... |
| 05:18.52 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:19.01 | Sam-I-Am | if you have the correct wm you shouldnt need it :P |
| 05:19.07 | Sam-I-Am | web browsinf is a bit rough |
| 05:19.09 | Sam-I-Am | mmm, wine |
| 05:19.48 | randyg | ol |
| 05:19.50 | randyg | lol |
| 05:20.27 | randyg | I do need it, as I have a dual-system setup with x2x, and I can't send keyboard to the other box without first moving the mouse to the other monitor |
| 05:20.36 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:22.27 | randyg | blah, probably going to have to restart X |
| 05:22.33 | Sam-I-Am | yup |
| 05:22.34 | randyg | once again, firefox fucks up |
| 05:22.38 | Sam-I-Am | weird |
| 05:22.44 | Sam-I-Am | i've had X11 in OSX mess up |
| 05:22.49 | Sam-I-Am | i cant get mouse focus |
| 05:22.58 | Sam-I-Am | but not anywhere else, or due to an app itself |
| 05:26.59 | randyg | I've had this happen with firefox before... |
| 05:27.11 | randyg | I've had firefox break just about anything and everything before |
| 05:27.39 | randyg | it crashed (as it does daily) while I accidentally did a mouse drag |
| 05:27.56 | randyg | now the cursor is stuck as some odd icon and I can't click anything |
| 05:28.44 | Sam-I-Am | i use opera |
| 05:29.08 | Sam-I-Am | works on all the platforms i use... and i can have the same bookmarks/config everywhere |
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| 05:31.57 | randyg | odd. bitchx dies if you restart icewm. nothing else died. you'd think it wouldn't even know... |
| 05:32.03 | randyg | mouse, however, still doesn't work. |
| 05:32.36 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:35.40 | randyg | about 1/4 done closing things |
| 05:37.09 | randyg | hrrmph! forgot I also had thunderbird running. closing thunderbird fixed the mouse. go figure. |
| 05:37.23 | randyg | firefox crashes, and thunderbird dies? :) |
| 05:39.06 | randyg | brb... some things still fucked up. finally got everything closed. |
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| 05:40.05 | randyg | I hate restarting anything. :) |
| 05:42.31 | Sam-I-Am | heh me too |
| 05:43.21 | randyg | uptime's only 27 days here... powered off to put in a usb 2.0 card. couldn't make the card work. blah. |
| 05:43.38 | randyg | other boxes are 44 days... 44 days ago had a power outage, and my ups failed after only 5 minutes. |
| 05:43.53 | randyg | new ups should run the boxes and monitors for 3 hours, or just the boxes for 6 hours. |
| 05:44.47 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:44.53 | Sam-I-Am | i have three 1100VA units |
| 05:45.01 | randyg | I have one 1250VA unit |
| 05:45.12 | Sam-I-Am | i wont plug anything into the wall without one |
| 05:47.02 | randyg | one 1250VA unit, in this room, with everything in here plugged into it. computer in the other room has a 250va unit for the box and a 400va unit for the monitor. other room has a 250va for the computer and a 450va for the monitor. laptop has two li-ion batteries. |
| 05:47.32 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:47.37 | randyg | the two 250va, the 400va, and the 450va only last for 10 minutes or so |
| 05:47.54 | Sam-I-Am | i have one for my server/switch/warliz, one for my tv/stereo, and one for the laptop |
| 05:47.55 | randyg | the 1250va can run everything, including the printers, for over 2 hours. |
| 05:48.05 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:48.16 | randyg | I have everything in the room plugged into the 1250... stereo included. |
| 05:48.34 | randyg | only electronic thing not plugged into it is the laser printer |
| 05:48.51 | randyg | 1250va not being enough to run it... |
| 05:49.23 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:49.27 | randyg | its battery is 24v and 85ah. a fair bit of runtime. :) |
| 05:49.30 | Sam-I-Am | yeah lasers dont jive with ups |
| 05:51.08 | randyg | I have a generator in the garage, but it's in about a thousand parts |
| 05:51.15 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 05:51.18 | randyg | need to buy a pull-start for it |
| 05:51.21 | Sam-I-Am | then its not a generator.. its parts! |
| 05:52.17 | Sam-I-Am | hmm, 10F outside |
| 05:52.40 | randyg | heh |
| 05:53.26 | randyg | it was a generator missing a pull-start and not running when I got it. it's now a generator in a whole bunch of pieces but pretty likely to run when I put them all back together. |
| 05:53.33 | randyg | but still missing a pull-start |
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| 07:40.17 | randyg | hrmm. it appears a significant portion of wikipedia admins are furs. :) |
| 07:48.38 | xbaez | hey someone have the patch to sleep an ibook ? |
| 07:48.44 | randyg | bbl, sleep |
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| 08:03.32 | simonrvn | xbaez: mailin list |
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| 12:14.35 | ElNooboStupido | what kernel is sarge up to now |
| 12:24.45 | aba | 2.4.27 and 2.6.8. As on all archs. |
| 12:25.23 | pahartik | ElNooboStupido: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-source-&searchon=names&subword=1&version=testing&release=main |
| 12:25.53 | ElNooboStupido | 2.6.8 |
| 12:26.05 | ElNooboStupido | what do you mean on all archs |
| 12:27.20 | aba | in sarge, all archs are in sync with the kernel versions. |
| 12:28.23 | pahartik | ElNooboStupido: "all" as in "alpha arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc"... (did i miss any?) |
| 12:28.59 | ElNooboStupido | No I gotcha - kinda stoned - sorry |
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| 12:37.46 | simonrvn | missed 2 |
| 12:37.57 | simonrvn | i think |
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| 13:35.09 | ds9bsd | Hi simonrvn |
| 13:35.45 | ds9bsd | I've tested gnoppix ... It's nice ... xorg configured automatically . |
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| 17:35.52 | randyg | sigh. no response to the lost cat posters. :( |
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| 18:28.57 | Gnick | Having trouble getting X-Windows to run. Successfully installed Debian 3.0 r4 on a Mac 8550 Server. I have a couple of questions about configuration. What type mouse do I indicate that I have? A "bus" mouse? The other area I am having touble with is the video card. What do I use? I have the exact horizontal and vertical refresh values for my monitor, so that's not the problem. Error code is 'no screens found ...'. |
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| 18:48.10 | Petro | Does yaboot need to be the first partition of the master drive or are different configs possible? |
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| 19:09.38 | Petro | Does yaboot need to be the first partition of the master drive or are different configs possible? |
| 19:09.40 | Gnick | Having trouble getting X-Windows to run. Successfully installed Debian 3.0 r4 on a Mac 8550 Server. Anybody have experience getting X-Windows to run on a similar computer? |
| 19:11.27 | simonrvn | Petro: why? |
| 19:11.43 | simonrvn | Gnick: can you explain? not mind readers you know |
| 19:12.18 | Petro | simonrvn: setting up Debian on a G4 mirror-drive, it has hda (full) and hdb (resized it at the end) and I want to make the bootloader on hdb |
| 19:12.42 | simonrvn | so do it |
| 19:12.57 | Petro | And it will work even though it's like hdb4? |
| 19:13.08 | simonrvn | if it doen't work, then it doesn't work. should be reading your conf anyway. just set it up right |
| 19:13.50 | Petro | What the hell is going on? |
| 19:13.50 | sk1p | netsplit. |
| 19:13.50 | simonrvn | netsplit!!! |
| 19:13.53 | simonrvn | *snore* |
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| 19:15.28 | Petro | Gnick: what kind of graphics card does it have? |
| 19:15.38 | Gnick | Sorry, more details. First, I have questions about the XF86config program -- 1) what kind of mouse do I indicate I have? A "bus" mouse? 2) What kind of video card do I indicate I have? Will X-Windows run if I use the generic vga setting? |
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| 19:15.54 | Petro | lspci is your friend |
| 19:17.53 | simonrvn | Gnick: /dev/input/mice, imps2 as protocol |
| 19:18.12 | simonrvn | for the mouse |
| 19:19.44 | Gnick | OK -- all I can find out about the card is the result of the Apple System profiler, which says ... "Card model: AAPL, 343S1154". It has 2 mb RAM, but this I know from nothing :) |
| 19:20.01 | simonrvn | lspci |
| 19:20.17 | simonrvn | ASP does nthing to help you here |
| 19:22.29 | Gnick | OK -- part newbie here, part "knockin' off some rust" (it's been awhile) -- ispci is what -- a utuility that's part of the standard package? that does what? probes for devices? |
| 19:23.15 | sk1p | just run it from a command line on linux, /sbin/lspci as user or just lspci as root |
| 19:23.43 | Petro | that's Lspci btw |
| 19:23.56 | Petro | not ispci |
| 19:24.33 | Petro | boot off of the debian cd and start a shell (lspci is there, right?) |
| 19:25.23 | Petro | simonrvn: is canada as snowed up as the US? |
| 19:25.46 | simonrvn | here no. biting cold however. other parts yes, or more |
| 19:25.50 | Gnick | Super. Will try and see how it goes. I've got the base system installed, plus a decent number of packages, including gnome and KDE; now I just need to tweak some things to get a GUI. |
| 19:26.46 | Petro | Gnick: I'm not too sure you want to use a full-fledged GUI on 2MB ram! |
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| 19:27.38 | Petro | Gnick: try out Fluxbox or something |
| 19:29.20 | Gnick | OK, will see. Am just in early stages of seeing what I can do with this Mac. It won't run Mac OS X, so I thought I'd see if I could get a Linux distro to run on it. |
| 19:33.14 | Petro | Ok |
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| 20:51.15 | dmh | im trying to install the xserver-xfree86 package |
| 20:51.42 | dmh | and it fails and says a subprocess post-installation script returned exit status 5 |
| 20:51.47 | dmh | what does this mean? |
| 20:52.01 | chrisa | Scroll up to see the real error |
| 20:52.08 | dmh | ok |
| 20:52.10 | chrisa | and #debian is more of the place for this |
| 20:52.39 | dmh | sorry |
| 20:53.03 | dmh | it is on ppc |
| 20:54.13 | chrisa | For general stuff like that there's usually a bazillion more people in #debian who can help, that's all |
| 20:54.19 | dmh | ok |
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| 20:55.02 | dmh | well it says discover: bus not found |
| 20:56.40 | simonrvn | does it error out after that? |
| 20:56.43 | dmh | yes |
| 20:57.07 | simonrvn | paste it in #flood |
| 20:57.55 | dmh | i dont know how to use the mouse |
| 20:58.31 | simonrvn | select with mouse button and paste with configured button. if you haven't done so yet do this |
| 20:58.36 | simonrvn | @+3 buttons |
| 20:58.39 | ravenbird | sysctl -w dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation=1, and dev.mac_hid.mouse_buttonY_keycode=XX -- where XX is a number you get from showkey (in console only), the key you want, and Y is 2 or 3. however, you'll lose functionality of the selected keys for any other use, or to make the change permanent, add the entries to /etc/sysctl.conf - man sysctl.conf, and you can enable it immediately by running sysctl -p after you've edited sysctl.conf |
| 20:59.00 | dmh | ok |
| 20:59.16 | dmh | ty |
| 21:02.12 | dmh | i dont have it so that i can use the mouse at all |
| 21:02.50 | dmh | but there are no other messages |
| 21:02.53 | simonrvn | use gpm. apt-get install gpm. answer like: /dev/input/mice, autops2 |
| 21:02.55 | dmh | ok |
| 21:07.20 | dmh | when i do the the sysctl to set up to other two mouse buttons do i need 0x infront of the keycode? |
| 21:08.12 | simonrvn | no. did you do showkey ?. you can just add 87 and 88 for 2 and 3 for F11 and F12 |
| 21:08.18 | simonrvn | s/.// |
| 21:08.20 | dmh | ok |
| 21:09.40 | dmh | now how do i paste to #flood? |
| 21:10.43 | simonrvn | select with button, paste with F11 |
| 21:10.47 | dmh | thats it? |
| 21:10.51 | dmh | debian:/home/david# apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:10.51 | dmh | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 21:10.51 | dmh | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 21:10.51 | dmh | xserver-xfree86 is already the newest version. |
| 21:10.51 | dmh | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 21:10.51 | dmh | 1 not fully installed or removed. |
| 21:10.53 | dmh | Need to get 0B of archives. |
| 21:10.55 | dmh | After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. |
| 21:10.57 | dmh | Setting up xserver-xfree86 (4.1.0-16woody5) ... |
| 21:10.59 | dmh | discover: Bus not found. |
| 21:11.01 | dmh | dpkg: error processing xserver-xfree86 (--configure): |
| 21:11.02 | simonrvn | not here |
| 21:11.03 | dmh | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.05 | dmh | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 21:11.07 | dmh | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.09 | dmh | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 21:11.11 | dmh | sorry |
| 21:11.39 | simonrvn | do dpkg --configure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:11.43 | dmh | ok |
| 21:12.57 | dmh | i pasted it |
| 21:13.05 | dmh | in #flood |
| 21:13.28 | simonrvn | what machine is this anyway? |
| 21:13.36 | dmh | mirror door drive g4 |
| 21:13.50 | simonrvn | oh man, upgrade to sarge, if it isn't a server |
| 21:14.02 | dmh | whats that? |
| 21:14.03 | simonrvn | your video will actually be supported |
| 21:14.11 | dmh | is that unstable? |
| 21:14.16 | simonrvn | testing, what will become stable soon |
| 21:14.18 | dmh | ok |
| 21:14.47 | simonrvn | ravenbird: woody->sarge |
| 21:14.49 | ravenbird | i guess woody->sarge is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" or "stable" to "sarge", or "testing". testing *is* sarge currently.. Then "apt-get update" and "apt-get dselect-upgrade". |
| 21:14.50 | dmh | is that done in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 21:14.55 | simonrvn | :) |
| 21:15.00 | dmh | alright |
| 21:15.30 | dmh | what are the chances something will break when i upgrade everything? |
| 21:15.55 | simonrvn | just keep running the apt-get dselect-upgrade until everything's configured |
| 21:16.26 | simonrvn | seems stupid, but it's the easiest way |
| 21:16.51 | dmh | ok |
| 21:17.49 | dmh | i only have one package source |
| 21:17.52 | dmh | which is ftp.kernel.org |
| 21:17.55 | dmh | is that a big deal? |
| 21:17.59 | simonrvn | no |
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| 21:24.12 | dmh | how did you learn all this? |
| 21:25.11 | simonrvn | reading docs, trial and error, from others |
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| 21:25.59 | dmh | whats a good website to find documentation? |
| 21:26.45 | simonrvn | www.debian.org. the installed man pages, and /usr/share/doc/<packagename> |
| 21:26.54 | dmh | k |
| 21:26.57 | simonrvn | and everyone's favourite, google |
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| 21:30.13 | xbaez | someone know about the problem in permmision in /dev/pmu ? |
| 21:30.19 | xbaez | how can i fix ? |
| 21:31.03 | simonrvn | chmod maybe... like 660 for example... |
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| 21:40.52 | xbaez | mmh i think is a bad idea |
| 21:45.38 | dmh | thanks for the help |
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| 21:51.54 | sfire||mouse | http://www.boingboing.net/2005/01/22/whistlers_delight_ma.html url spam :) |
| 21:52.41 | al_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ |
| 21:52.42 | simonrvn | xbaez: uh, no, chmod 666 is a bad idea |
| 21:52.47 | al_ | wooohooo ubuntu live cd ppc |
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| 22:08.20 | assassin | Are there jigdo files for netinst? |
| 22:09.02 | simonrvn | go see the web site. and no, we don't know. we're not google |
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| 22:12.05 | assassin | simonrvn: You assume I'm a luser and haven't already done so? |
| 22:12.22 | simonrvn | yes :) |
| 22:12.28 | assassin | @lart simonrvn |
| 22:12.31 | assassin | :P |
| 22:12.34 | Q-FUNK | I strongly doubt that there are jigdo files for that one. |
| 22:12.47 | simonrvn | assassin: *grin* |
| 22:13.01 | assassin | Yeah. I didn't find anything |
| 22:14.31 | simonrvn | you could probably emulate it somehow with one of the jigdo thingies. but afaik, there isn't any |
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| 22:28.11 | randyg | dunno, I might enjoy that lart session. :P |
| 22:28.44 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 22:57.20 | al_ | 'night |
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| 23:35.37 | randyg | blargh. went to recap the motherboards, and found my vacuum desoldering station not sucking... pulled it all apart... the filter died, allowing lead particles into the pump, killing it. |
| 23:35.54 | randyg | dismantled and cleaned the pump... now need a new filter. |
| 23:37.38 | randyg | bbl, auto parts store |
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| 23:45.13 | Gnick | Trying to get X-Windows to run on a Mac 8550 Workgroup server. Have successfully installed latest Debian (3.0, rev 4). "startx" quits with error:"Fatal server error: no screens found". Last two lines of /var/log/XFree86.0.log read "[next to last line] (II) VGA: Generic VGA driver (version 4.0) for chipset: generic / [last line] (EE) No devices detected". Advice? |
| 23:46.49 | sk1p | i don't think vga stuff will work on ppc. try to use the fbdev driver |
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| 23:49.34 | Gnick | sk1p, can you give me specifics? Do I need to edit the config file? One of the problems I had in running xf86config is that when it came time to say what video card I had, I don't know what to indicate. |
| 23:51.52 | sk1p | one second |
| 23:53.43 | grivell | Now have MacMini with Debian Sarge installed. Nice. But no sound. |
| 23:54.04 | sk1p | grivell: cool! |
| 23:54.19 | grivell | Might have to get another Extigy for it ;) |
| 23:54.41 | sk1p | Gnick: it asks for the name of the video driver, right? try dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-xserver and specify fbdev as a driver |
| 23:54.52 | sk1p | grivell: is the Extigy well supported? |
| 23:56.42 | grivell | Yeah, I have one connected to this iBook. Sounds great. |
| 23:56.54 | grivell | Alsa -> USB Device |
| 23:58.52 | sk1p | Hm, does it do things like 5.1 too? |
| 23:59.39 | Gnick | sk1P: OK, will try. |