| 00:00.09 | grivell | sk1p: I only have 2 speakers, so not sure if the driver supports it. |
| 00:00.26 | grivell | I would say that ALSA does, so good chance. |
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| 00:08.58 | xmb | could anyone explain why a du -hs ~/* (or du in general i guess) is lightening fast on a mac, seeming to only read 1/10th of whatever a x86 machine does for the same |
| 00:10.03 | grivell | ? |
| 00:12.12 | xmb | got a 400er imac and a 400er P2, both with big home dirs |
| 00:12.26 | sfire||mouse | xmb: both running linux? |
| 00:12.27 | xmb | du -hs * on the imac takes <1s, on the P2 it takes as usual... 'some time' |
| 00:12.30 | xmb | yes |
| 00:13.08 | sk1p | same dma settings, same file system? |
| 00:13.32 | xmb | both ext3, not same data, dma and readahead all set |
| 00:14.19 | grivell | If anyone is interested in the Mini: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5746435828 |
| 00:14.45 | grivell | The blog I was following for Linux install has decided it is not for him. |
| 00:14.58 | xmb | 2.4GB on the imac, 20k files, 3.1GB on the P2, 49k files |
| 00:15.31 | grivell | That explains it xmb |
| 00:15.34 | xmb | nope |
| 00:15.39 | grivell | More files. |
| 00:15.59 | xmb | still doesnt, i've seen this way ago when i didnt have some big pic dirs on my P2 HD |
| 00:16.00 | grivell | And maybe one is 7200 rpm drive, or is UDMA, etc. |
| 00:16.17 | xmb | both are 7.2k rpm |
| 00:16.36 | xmb | and both udma, not more than ATA/33 |
| 00:16.36 | grivell | And a P2 400 is slower than G# 400 :) |
| 00:17.04 | grivell | Only recently (I believe P4-M?) has Intel made chips faster per clock. |
| 00:17.26 | xmb | i wasnt too excited about the speed of my 1.8GHz centrino |
| 00:17.35 | xmb | damn a sempron 2500+ felt somewhat faster |
| 00:17.50 | dj-death | centrinos sux ? |
| 00:18.00 | xmb | naw its nice |
| 00:18.14 | xmb | in my eyes best, along with transmeta |
| 00:18.34 | xmb | nice power saving techniques... a funky experience.. |
| 00:19.00 | xmb | having <2.6.8 kernels without new-centrino cpufreq support linux downclocked it to 47MHz without load |
| 00:19.19 | xmb | on kernels with support, manual dynamic clocking was working, but the speed never gone less than 700MHz |
| 00:19.20 | grivell | Only reason I went iBook was the Dell i5150 3.06 GHz has overheating problems. I must say, my iBook 1.2 GHz is quite nice. |
| 00:19.42 | xmb | grivell, any concerns about its crappy display? |
| 00:20.14 | grivell | Crappy display? 1024x768 or whatever? Not much. |
| 00:20.14 | xmb | had a hp/compaq nw8000 lappy, with 128MB ati firegl T2 |
| 00:20.19 | xmb | it reflects so much |
| 00:20.23 | xmb | (ibook displays) |
| 00:20.38 | xmb | my hp was running nice, it could run hours without any fan enabled |
| 00:20.39 | grivell | Haven't noticed. |
| 00:20.59 | xmb | has run 30 mins with heavy compiling without fans, till i noticed they didnt run |
| 00:21.15 | grivell | nice |
| 00:21.51 | xmb | yah, P-M in any case over P*-M |
| 00:22.13 | grivell | That's the one I was thinking of :) |
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| 01:04.51 | randyg | desolderer fixed... vacuum's still a little weak, but a heck of a lot better than it was before. |
| 01:05.34 | randyg | xmb: du / is instant here... the second time. :) |
| 01:06.16 | xmb | randyg, just did same, i hear how the HD of the P2 rackers, and slow output |
| 01:06.25 | xmb | instant, insane-fast output on the imac |
| 01:06.45 | xmb | (i did $HOME before, now /... 95% sure that the files arent cached) |
| 01:06.55 | randyg | dunno |
| 01:08.07 | randyg | 24 seconds here, and it searched 100gb or so of NFS mounts by accident. :) |
| 01:10.49 | randyg | 10 seconds to do 53gb, and a heck of a lot of files |
| 01:11.36 | xmb | good stuff.. now all the files are cached tho |
| 01:11.40 | randyg | yep |
| 01:12.05 | randyg | now it takes 3 seconds. :) |
| 01:15.40 | randyg | hrmm, not sure there's any easy way to un-cache it... |
| 01:16.23 | randyg | do you have tiger or some other log analysis / intrusion detection program on the mac? |
| 01:23.22 | randyg | I know some of those do a find / at routine intervals, so the filesystem would be cached even if you hadn't done a du /... |
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| 01:55.32 | Sam-I-Am | m00 |
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| 02:16.26 | simonrvn | hi |
| 02:16.33 | Sam-I-Am | moo |
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| 02:32.10 | sfire||mouse | hmm, I should set up some sort of ID |
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| 02:45.06 | Lee__ | I've encountered an unknown error: |
| 02:45.22 | Lee__ | I booted and installed Sarge from the netinst iso and everything went fine |
| 02:45.48 | randyg | sfire||mouse: ID? |
| 02:45.59 | Lee__ | after the first reboot I spent an hour or two configuring my system, shutdown and put that box aside for a while. |
| 02:46.13 | sfire||mouse | IDS, Intrusion Dection |
| 02:46.15 | Lee__ | Now two weeks later I'm getting an OpenFirmware error |
| 02:46.19 | sfire||mouse | *sp* |
| 02:47.20 | Lee__ | yaboot begins to load the kernel but OF catches something and is stuck at this screen which asks me to type either "mac-boot" or "shut-down" but my keystrokes aren't recognized. |
| 02:48.37 | Lee__ | I'd hate to go through the trouble of reinstalling everything just to fix yaboot. Any ideas? |
| 02:50.14 | simonrvn | reset the pram, then boot boot from the sarge or whatever install cd, chroot to your installation, then run ybin again |
| 02:51.39 | Lee__ | excellent, thanks. |
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| 03:16.30 | Sam-I-Am | eh |
| 03:17.11 | randyg | Sam-I-Am: one of our cats didn't come in at night 4 days ago... we searched the entire property and under the buildings, then put up lost cat signs... |
| 03:17.18 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 03:17.22 | Sam-I-Am | i hate cats.. so.. heh |
| 03:17.28 | Sam-I-Am | allergic |
| 03:18.19 | randyg | he didn't deserve whatever happened to him... was a nice cat. :( |
| 03:21.23 | randyg | always would come running to greet you when you got home... slept squashing him... always slept on my monitor with his feet dangling off... probably the only cat I've ever met who actually cared that you existed... |
| 03:21.45 | Sam-I-Am | hah |
| 03:22.41 | randyg | he was only 10, and was in good health, so it's unlikely he left to die... something/someone probably killed him. |
| 03:23.25 | Sam-I-Am | aww |
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| 03:29.38 | myXtie | humm 2 cats are missing from neighborhood and I think people next door ate them ( I hate to say it but there are people doing such horrible stuff ) |
| 03:30.04 | myXtie | I hope that is not what happened to your cat |
| 03:31.25 | randyg | myXtie: our neighbor's cat went missing the day after... |
| 03:31.34 | randyg | chances are around here it's a mountain lion |
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| 03:37.33 | sfire||mouse | heh |
| 03:38.43 | randyg | bablyon 5 is... just... blah1 |
| 03:38.48 | randyg | s/1/! |
| 03:39.43 | sfire||mouse | :( |
| 03:41.01 | randyg | bah |
| 03:51.33 | Sam-I-Am | feh |
| 04:23.54 | simonrvn | randyg: where are you? |
| 04:25.21 | randyg | coastal northern california |
| 04:25.49 | simonrvn | oh yeh, that's right. i forgot |
| 04:25.52 | simonrvn | sorry |
| 04:26.41 | randyg | why? |
| 04:27.32 | Sam-I-Am | mmmm |
| 04:43.05 | Sam-I-Am | i live on 123 anystreet |
| 04:43.09 | randyg | lol |
| 04:46.53 | randyg | hrmm. I just noticed I've been making a heck of a lot of wikipedia typo fixes tonight... usually I only fix about one a week, but this is about my 20th edit in the last hour. |
| 04:47.26 | Sam-I-Am | eh |
| 04:49.28 | randyg | either the articles I'm reading have a lot more typos than average, or I'm just spotting a lot more. |
| 04:51.04 | Sam-I-Am | you're not drunk enough yet |
| 04:51.25 | randyg | heh |
| 04:51.29 | randyg | I don't dink |
| 04:51.30 | randyg | drink |
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| 05:13.43 | Sam-I-Am | zzz |
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| 05:33.47 | init33 | Hello all! |
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| 06:38.27 | xbaez | someone live |
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| 10:13.11 | simonrvn | gimme one fucking good reason i should NOT file the request for adoption for quik. fucking BS politics. stupid fucking bullshit. |
| 10:14.58 | Bor_Ed | you got dev status yet ? |
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| 10:23.08 | simonrvn | no, and i'm not going to, ever. |
| 10:24.46 | Bor_Ed | ahh, that bad ? |
| 10:28.55 | aba | simonrvn: why that? |
| 10:29.00 | simonrvn | it's a fucking popularity contest. why should i fucking bother. have people ever heard of a meritocracy? FFS |
| 10:29.37 | liiwi | simonrvn: I have no idea what ticked you off, but blowing steam like that is rather pointless. |
| 10:29.51 | aba | Uh. |
| 10:43.57 | aba | Hm. After looking at his current mails, I think that his remark that he won't get DD status is quite true. _Now_. If his way to discuss doesn't change. |
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| 11:35.22 | liiwi | http://www.compusat.fi/Sites/lautasantennit/virittimet/dreambox-eng.htm |
| 11:35.30 | liiwi | hmm, a ppc box is a ppc box |
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| 11:40.09 | Garp | Hi |
| 11:40.43 | Garp | Question: What should I do when the ppc package is not at the ix86 level ? Eg, I want to instal gaim, it says: "gaim: Depends: gaim-data (= 1:1.1.2-1) but it is not installable" |
| 11:43.38 | dj-death | Garp: wait ;) |
| 11:43.53 | dj-death | depencies are broken |
| 11:44.12 | dj-death | this happend sometimes in debian unstable |
| 11:44.20 | Garp | dj-death: can I install the previous version ? |
| 11:44.32 | Garp | something like aptitude install gaim-1.1.2-1 |
| 11:44.43 | Garp | 'I dont need the 1.1.2.2 precisely... |
| 11:44.57 | Garp | I tried several syntax, but couldnt |
| 11:45.03 | dj-death | well you can install the package manually |
| 11:45.11 | Garp | OK, |
| 11:45.18 | dj-death | dpkg -i |
| 11:45.19 | Garp | I'll do that |
| 11:50.36 | Garp | seems to work, tks :-) |
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| 12:04.41 | Garp | bok bebye |
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| 14:47.36 | xmb_ | is there a way to disable SA[K] done via sysrq again? did it on X, now it quite runs, but is unusable.. 3/5 of the screen black with splitted lines and pixes, representing the unreadable virtual consoles |
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| 15:06.31 | Fluten | is installing debian on a g3 much different from the x86 platform? |
| 15:07.00 | pahartik | Fluten: no |
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| 15:38.58 | callipygous | anybody able to help me in the OF to get a cd to boot? |
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| 16:33.58 | Chestah | hello |
| 16:34.16 | Chestah | i have a PowerMac6100, PC compatible |
| 16:34.34 | Chestah | i want to run linux on it. |
| 16:34.40 | Chestah | which CD of Debian Sarge PPC do i need? |
| 16:34.45 | Chestah | *CD's |
| 16:34.54 | Bor_Ed | none |
| 16:36.05 | Chestah | ? |
| 16:36.18 | Bor_Ed | http://nubus-pmac.sf.net has the info you need |
| 16:39.01 | Chestah | ok |
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| 16:59.50 | Piru | oh. ppl are getting freescale ODW boxes it seems. http://www.ping.de/sites/tarbos/ODW_DualHead.jpg <- damn, that dual tft setup is hot. I want :) |
| 17:00.19 | Bor_Ed | freescale odw ? some dev board ? |
| 17:00.31 | Piru | prebuilt peg2 g4's |
| 17:00.40 | Bor_Ed | ohh... |
| 17:00.46 | Bor_Ed | starting at 2k eur ? |
| 17:01.05 | Piru | they're free |
| 17:01.17 | Bor_Ed | whaa ? |
| 17:01.20 | Piru | well, if your time is free |
| 17:01.34 | dj-death | is it ppc ? |
| 17:01.35 | Piru | there's some contract on working on some stuff. I dunno, I don't have one |
| 17:01.37 | Bor_Ed | care to explain ? |
| 17:01.46 | dj-death | why kind of video card ? |
| 17:01.52 | dj-death | s/why/what/ |
| 17:02.27 | Piru | details are here: http://www.pegasosppc.com/odw.php |
| 17:02.52 | dj-death | thx |
| 17:02.56 | Bor_Ed | I bet it's as cheap as mai teron mini... $3900/piece :/& |
| 17:03.58 | Piru | anyway, obviously this was a limited offer for the devs |
| 17:04.01 | Bor_Ed | ahh, wasaware ripoff sells 'em too... they had board only at ~700 eur |
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| 17:04.10 | Piru | they're not handing them out to anyone :) |
| 17:04.41 | Piru | obviously freescale is expecting some interesting stuff back from the devs who got it |
| 17:04.46 | Bor_Ed | 635 eur for board currently from wasaware |
| 17:07.23 | Bor_Ed | Piru, check wasaware.fi ... 845 eur for 'wave' labeled peggyII |
| 17:08.12 | Piru | ah yes |
| 17:08.32 | Bor_Ed | and 570 for minimac... buggr, hard choice which one to get for linux :D |
| 17:09.02 | Piru | :P |
| 17:09.32 | Piru | minimac is quite cool, if you don't need to expand in any way |
| 17:09.33 | Bor_Ed | I just hope there would be more ppc standard board makers than mai and genesi... |
| 17:09.51 | Bor_Ed | usb has about all expansion gizmos nowadays |
| 17:10.00 | Bor_Ed | randyg, 570 eur is ~700 usd ... |
| 17:11.08 | randyg | Bor_Ed: sounds about right |
| 17:11.23 | randyg | and as I said, those prices are outrageous. :P |
| 17:11.44 | Bor_Ed | yup... it'd get couple of heat radiator amd64 setups on similar stack of money |
| 17:12.20 | randyg | you must not have a wood stove... if you did, you'd love anything that was an excuse to send more electricity to your bedroom. :P |
| 17:12.53 | Bor_Ed | we have central heating, unfortunately. So I have to use ppc gear to save at least on electricity bill |
| 17:13.20 | randyg | heh |
| 17:14.15 | randyg | I have a woodstove with about a cubic meter of space... I cut wood to 2.5' long... and I still have to add more every hour. |
| 17:14.47 | Bor_Ed | we don't have even fireplace... apartment building you know :I |
| 17:14.54 | randyg | ah |
| 17:14.55 | Piru | damn, that mixing of units is confusing :-) |
| 17:15.13 | jaska | yeahh |
| 17:15.18 | sfire||mouse | randyg: sucks |
| 17:15.20 | Bor_Ed | pretty usual :) |
| 17:15.33 | sfire||mouse | however, I wish I had a fireplace to use with my gf :) |
| 17:15.36 | randyg | Piru: what can I say... I'm in the US. we use stupid units here. I'm still not fully switched to metric mentally. :) |
| 17:15.40 | jaska | randyg must work for nasa, mixing up units like that :) |
| 17:16.27 | sfire||mouse | haha |
| 17:16.53 | randyg | the stove is about 3' wide, 2.5' deep, 2' high... ok, only half a cubic meter. |
| 17:17.08 | randyg | (that's the inside measurements... the outside is of course larger) |
| 17:18.59 | randyg | I've been slowly switching to si units... which is remarkably hard when you go through your entire life without ever seeing anything other than imperial units. |
| 17:19.18 | randyg | they don't even sell metric screws at the local hardware store |
| 17:20.19 | DelTree | :) |
| 17:21.21 | randyg | I needed a metric nut once, and found out no one within 50 miles carried one. ended up making an american one fit with a big wrench. |
| 17:21.35 | Piru | heh |
| 17:22.00 | Piru | bruteforce hack :) |
| 17:22.25 | randyg | yep :) |
| 17:40.12 | randyg | heh. you know I'm depressed, when I start writing completely useless wikipedia articles to avoid thinking about things. :( |
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| 18:00.11 | randyg | mrrf! "Poland has intervened again to stop the Council of Agriculture and Fisheries from rubber-stamping the EU |
| 18:00.13 | randyg | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.16 | randyg | good poland! |
| 18:00.44 | Bor_Ed | they're only one stealing enough M$ code to try to prevent the directive to go live |
| 18:00.50 | randyg | lol |
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| 18:05.57 | WiFiTux | wow, so the G5 PowerBooks are really going out... |
| 18:06.09 | Bor_Ed | hmm, looks like M$ gave up this time on the patent directive :o |
| 18:06.26 | randyg | WiFiTux: perhaps you should buy us one? :P |
| 18:06.37 | Bor_Ed | umm, the antitrust one... my bad |
| 18:06.44 | WiFiTux | randyg, no, I was unable to get mine cause they didn't get my CC |
| 18:07.20 | WiFiTux | :| |
| 18:09.53 | randyg | except it takes two gallons to commute to work and back, and I only have enough pennies for one gallon. grr. |
| 18:10.12 | sfire||mouse | WiFiTux: g5 pb??? |
| 18:10.51 | WiFiTux | sfire||mouse, yes. |
| 18:10.53 | Bor_Ed | here gas costs ~1.10 eur/liter... and my tank takes ~3.5 liters/fill :/ also need to get 2-stroke premium oil to separate tank to keep the thingy going |
| 18:11.16 | randyg | Bor_Ed: 2-stroke... what do you drive? |
| 18:11.20 | sfire||mouse | randyg: bleh, would you of stayed there for 4 episodes of b5? |
| 18:11.23 | randyg | motorbike? |
| 18:11.27 | Bor_Ed | 49cc scooter :D |
| 18:11.41 | jaska | heh |
| 18:11.44 | WiFiTux | randyg, Bor_Ed 's... http://www.kotinet.com/leilahk/kelkka/91.jpg |
| 18:11.57 | randyg | sfire||mouse: dunno. :P |
| 18:11.59 | WiFiTux | That's his Scooter |
| 18:12.01 | jaska | mine takes 63 liters of diesel, which costs ~0.85e/l |
| 18:12.09 | al_ | powerbook g5 ? where ?.. |
| 18:12.15 | randyg | Bor_Ed: costs me US $40 a tank for my little subaru... |
| 18:12.22 | WiFiTux | al_, yes, we laughed a lot about it, but yes... |
| 18:12.31 | al_ | hey, url ! :) |
| 18:12.32 | Bor_Ed | randyg, takes ~4 eur to fill the little tgb |
| 18:12.51 | WiFiTux | http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2168 |
| 18:13.25 | WiFiTux | G5+Tiger |
| 18:13.37 | Bor_Ed | WiFiTux, not quite my ride but close... I have a bit more jesustape on my one |
| 18:13.45 | sfire||mouse | hmm, I want tiger :) |
| 18:13.45 | WiFiTux | Bor_Ed, :) |
| 18:13.55 | WiFiTux | sfire||mouse, I want a free ppc |
| 18:14.07 | randyg | sfire||mouse: dunno, I'd rather have a tiger. :) |
| 18:14.19 | sfire||mouse | :P |
| 18:14.37 | WiFiTux | randyg, no, the tiger will be scared with the mouse. |
| 18:14.46 | WiFiTux | hhaha |
| 18:15.04 | randyg | ? |
| 18:16.13 | WiFiTux | :| ok my jokes suck |
| 18:17.26 | randyg | try visualizing a 6' tall grey wolf with a bushy tail snuggling a lion instead. :P |
| 18:18.58 | WiFiTux | eeww |
| 18:20.23 | randyg | eeww what? |
| 18:20.24 | randyg | lol |
| 18:25.15 | Bor_Ed | sheesh, xchat for M$ is nowadays $$$ app :o |
| 18:25.28 | al_ | yeah |
| 18:25.32 | al_ | there are free compilations |
| 18:26.03 | al_ | http://www.silverex.org/news/ |
| 18:26.06 | Bor_Ed | well, don't have any winders capable boxen so I ain't really concerned... though I wonder how they manage to get $$$ out of GPL'd app that's available for free |
| 18:26.10 | randyg | WiFiTux: well? :P |
| 18:26.24 | randyg | Bor_Ed: people sell copies of GIMP for $20 on ebay |
| 18:26.39 | Bor_Ed | sheesh :D |
| 18:26.39 | WiFiTux | randyg, well what? |
| 18:26.50 | Bor_Ed | and that's available still from wingimp.org for free ? |
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| 18:27.04 | randyg | WiFiTux: why "ewww" to my thinking a tiger would be fun to snuggle? :) |
| 18:27.05 | WiFiTux | Bor_Ed, yes. |
| 18:27.18 | WiFiTux | randyg, what was snuggle? |
| 18:27.38 | Bor_Ed | geebus, I start to sell mozilla-firefox/thunderbird cd for winders too, looks like there's loads of morons to screw :) |
| 18:27.40 | WiFiTux | sounds like poo stabing |
| 18:27.45 | randyg | snuggling is wrapping your arms around someone and squishing them tight |
| 18:28.06 | WiFiTux | randyg, yeah, sounds poo stabing to me still. |
| 18:28.20 | WiFiTux | staving ?!? |
| 18:29.01 | randyg | wtf is "poo stabbing"? |
| 18:29.09 | randyg | stabing |
| 18:29.24 | randyg | Bor_Ed: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30020&item=3869491517&rd=1 <== only $15 now... |
| 18:29.43 | WiFiTux | randyg, poo staber? Shit staber? gay... |
| 18:29.48 | Bor_Ed | lessee |
| 18:29.59 | Bor_Ed | ebay showing its 'speed' again |
| 18:30.31 | randyg | "L3 PhotoStyler Graphic & Image Manipulation Program (GIMP)" notice removal of the word GNU... |
| 18:30.55 | randyg | WiFiTux: seeing as I'm straight, that's not a very good analysis. |
| 18:31.04 | Bor_Ed | still loading the site... ebay is hard spot on this isp (as any site outside their web space) |
| 18:32.08 | Bor_Ed | got the topic now... |
| 18:34.10 | WiFiTux | randyg, haha :| |
| 18:36.32 | randyg | WiFiTux: contrary to what you seem to think, most furries are not gay. |
| 18:37.16 | WiFiTux | randyg, haha, ok, well I was just thinking about it... anyway. Having a small lion or tiger would be nice |
| 18:37.23 | WiFiTux | even if they end up eating you |
| 18:38.43 | randyg | heh |
| 18:39.16 | WiFiTux | how do you call the ears,nose doctor? Ornitorrincus?" |
| 18:39.49 | randyg | I prefer anthropomorphic animals myself.... sadly, this universe seems to lack them. :( |
| 18:40.31 | WiFiTux | ? |
| 18:41.19 | randyg | you don't actually know what furry is, do you? :) |
| 18:41.27 | pahartik | randyg: it is legal to buy or sell sources and binaries of GIMP, Mozilla, Linux... |
| 18:41.53 | randyg | pahartik: of course it is. doesn't mean people doing so aren't gullable, though. :) |
| 18:42.17 | randyg | if I were to spend $15 for gimp, I'd send it to the GNU people, not to some bozo on ebay making free cash. |
| 18:42.53 | pahartik | randyg: and it is legal for me to think of myself as rat... |
| 18:43.02 | Bor_Ed | site is still loading... is the $15 'buy now' price ? |
| 18:43.15 | randyg | Bor_Ed: $10 to buy it and $5 to ship it |
| 18:43.23 | Bor_Ed | I see |
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| 18:43.45 | randyg | for a CD containing gimp and a few FDL documents |
| 18:43.50 | Bor_Ed | I give up, ebay still blows monkey from this side of the ocean |
| 18:44.26 | randyg | WiFiTux: furries, like myself, and people with an interest in anthropomorphic animals. |
| 18:45.06 | pahartik | randyg: i could pay 15 EUR for GNU Emacs... to author/developer |
| 18:45.13 | randyg | brb, phone |
| 18:46.11 | WiFiTux | ok, out of hia |
| 18:48.35 | pahartik | randyg: supposedly you have not seen most of this universe from short distance |
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| 22:22.48 | Bor_Ed | http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/24/1945223&from=rss everyone has probably checked the video already but still... |
| 22:24.38 | eddyp | not me |
| 22:34.43 | mirak | wht is it ? |
| 22:35.57 | Bor_Ed | first apple announcement it seems, haven't downloaded it myself yet since this pipe can hold only 1 download at time |
| 22:36.22 | mirak | I am not fan enough to bother ^^ |
| 22:51.22 | sfire||mouse | finnaly got a good torrent for it |
| 22:52.05 | mirak | I remember having when I was very young |
| 22:52.10 | mirak | a Panda |
| 22:52.24 | mirak | it was a apple II comaptible |
| 22:52.28 | mirak | compatible |
| 22:52.42 | mirak | with 64ko of ram, omething like that |
| 22:53.02 | mirak | I was playing Load Runner on it |
| 22:53.08 | jaska | lode runner :D |
| 22:53.30 | mirak | and also Connan |
| 22:53.39 | mirak | and a karate game |
| 22:53.44 | Bor_Ed | best game imo on old apples was that cat&mouse thingy |
| 22:53.46 | mirak | it was fun |
| 22:57.35 | mirak | I don't this ame |
| 22:58.48 | xbaez | hello ! |
| 23:00.30 | xbaez | someone knows how can yaboot show a menu for choose the kernel that can boot |
| 23:02.04 | simonrvn | xbaez: hit <tab> a couple of times. yaboot isn't lilo |
| 23:04.50 | xbaez | simonrvn, ok thanks !, |
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| 23:15.30 | simonrvn | xbaez: for things like that, you're going to read the man pages, and do some research on your own |
| 23:19.57 | xbaez | yes, today i'm going to read the man page of yaboot i have some doubts ... |
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| 23:38.17 | Bor_Ed | ls |
| 23:38.25 | Bor_Ed | grmbl... |
| 23:39.36 | Bor_Ed | hey, new realplayer (10.0.2) runs on ppc too, the installer is on helix site though (if someone wants to watch nasatv with brand new player) |
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| 23:43.37 | myXtie | yeah but it is not gpl and comparing helix ( gpl comparable) to any other I will choose xine, xmms etc. |
| 23:44.23 | dj-death | yeah ;) |
| 23:44.28 | dj-death | clearly |
| 23:44.30 | myXtie | with Helix I can look at a jpeg but it will not play an ogg ( some libs must be linked wrong ) |
| 23:44.34 | dj-death | helix player just sux |
| 23:44.39 | Bor_Ed | I prefer mplayer really for most of the stuff bmp doesn't play, and for the rest, real |
| 23:44.47 | dj-death | you have to dl a plugin to play ogg |
| 23:45.36 | myXtie | bmp is good but press the double size button and see what it says |
| 23:45.50 | Bor_Ed | the real 10.x ppc is weirdly enough hosted on helix site, and suprisingly it outperforms the real8 install I had |
| 23:46.14 | dj-death | bmp has some annoying bugs on my ibook |
| 23:46.54 | Bor_Ed | bmp has 1 bug here I've noticed, after loosing the attention and getting it back, it only shows up main window |
| 23:47.38 | dj-death | hmmm |
| 23:47.49 | dj-death | each time bmp read a mp3/ogg |
| 23:47.49 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: URL? |
| 23:48.08 | dj-death | he decrease the mixer of 20% |
| 23:48.22 | dj-death | after 2 mp3 you cant hear anything |
| 23:48.25 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, a sec or 10... this broadband is acting up again |
| 23:48.28 | dj-death | so I still use xmms |
| 23:48.48 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: TYT |
| 23:48.59 | Bor_Ed | https://helixcommunity.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=154 scroll down a bit |
| 23:49.04 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 23:49.09 | Bor_Ed | np |
| 23:49.18 | Piru | omg. ppc support |
| 23:49.25 | myXtie | Bor_Ed does the realplayer install want root password or anything it should not ? Does it require helix ? |
| 23:49.33 | simonrvn | amazing... |
| 23:49.39 | Bor_Ed | nope, nope |
| 23:49.57 | Bor_Ed | I installed system wide with sudo though |
| 23:50.14 | simonrvn | wtf realplay-0.4.0.186-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-powerpc.bin haha |
| 23:50.17 | Bor_Ed | Piru, I was stunned for a good while too |
| 23:50.30 | Piru | hmm so just run .bin.. |
| 23:50.59 | Bor_Ed | yup, at least nasatv works just fine, and so did audio only thingies |
| 23:52.10 | Piru | hmm. it's a real bin, and not script. ooh |
| 23:53.03 | simonrvn | which one did you you fetch? |
| 23:53.36 | Piru | well, wouldn't the latest make sense? |
| 23:53.41 | Piru | 1.0.2 |
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| 23:54.05 | Bor_Ed | .bin is install thingy wrapped to shell script |
| 23:54.41 | simonrvn | Piru: yes, of course. seems i already had it |
| 23:55.12 | Piru | 1.0.2 and 10.0.2 heh |
| 23:55.20 | Piru | wonder if that's a coindidence |
| 23:55.25 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.29 | Bor_Ed | is the file to catch |
| 23:55.58 | Piru | really. it is a bin |
| 23:56.01 | Piru | not a script |
| 23:56.01 | Bor_Ed | helix just pukes on ~every format |
| 23:56.21 | Bor_Ed | Piru, I stand corrected, ppc32 elf |
| 23:57.26 | Piru | I've seen other things use some funky script tho.. like jre |
| 23:57.40 | Piru | hm hm. is this installer sane? |
| 23:57.58 | Bor_Ed | worked as sudo... prolly works as user too |
| 23:58.00 | simonrvn | those are just like the old shar archives. shell acript wrapping some binary thing |
| 23:58.01 | Piru | does it use proper location or does it put stuff to wrong places? :) |
| 23:58.11 | simonrvn | proper, ~/ |
| 23:58.30 | Bor_Ed | I had to point it to /usr/local/RealPlayer here, suggested ~ land |
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