| 00:00.13 | *** part/#debianppc one_2_one (~zdf@adslsapo-b4-47-194.telepac.pt) |
| 00:00.27 | Piru | this is clearly mean to be run as root |
| 00:00.30 | Piru | +t |
| 00:00.51 | Bor_Ed | not really, just hogs a lot of ~ space if you run as user :D |
| 00:00.55 | Piru | the nice progressbar is messed up with tar warnings otherwise :) |
| 00:01.19 | simonrvn | yeh :) |
| 00:01.39 | Bor_Ed | Piru, yer only desktop user on the box ? |
| 00:02.03 | simonrvn | i'm the only one with keyboard access here, hence the ~/ install |
| 00:02.52 | Bor_Ed | I have occasional other users at KB so did sudo install, linked to /usr and to browsers too nicely |
| 00:03.02 | Piru | bor_ed, yeah.. but I'll use global install anyway |
| 00:03.11 | simonrvn | they have tarball .debs but all of them are x86... |
| 00:03.18 | simonrvn | tarballed* |
| 00:03.32 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, noticed that too... almost shot a flame that way... |
| 00:04.09 | simonrvn | it's like most other sites with .debs, x86 only... |
| 00:04.10 | Bor_Ed | actually was about to shoot first after I downloaded 'realplayer 10 gold for your browser' from real.com which seemed to be i386 one :/ |
| 00:04.36 | Piru | hoho |
| 00:04.46 | Bor_Ed | if the buggrs spy on useragents, shouldn't they check the arch too ??? |
| 00:06.04 | Piru | arch? is that like amd and intel? |
| 00:06.39 | simonrvn | ffs, i get relocation errors.... |
| 00:07.10 | simonrvn | sec |
| 00:07.42 | Piru | hmph. this install takes aeons |
| 00:07.48 | simonrvn | just colliding with the old helixplayer crap... |
| 00:08.55 | Piru | mh hm |
| 00:09.03 | Piru | prefix for symbolic links.. hm hm |
| 00:09.24 | Bor_Ed | shoot ~/ |
| 00:09.24 | Piru | wonder what kind of links it's doing.. bin links? |
| 00:09.26 | simonrvn | uses gtk2 instead of lesstif |
| 00:09.35 | simonrvn | probably ld |
| 00:10.00 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, it's similar to recent helixplayer but works |
| 00:10.06 | simonrvn | cool |
| 00:10.23 | Piru | ahh default was ok |
| 00:10.42 | Piru | (it created them to /usr/bin as supposed to) |
| 00:11.03 | Bor_Ed | Piru, so you ran su/root installer too ? |
| 00:11.36 | Piru | I did |
| 00:11.50 | Piru | don't like bloat (even in theory :) |
| 00:11.54 | simonrvn | so it installed the binary to /usr/bin? |
| 00:12.05 | Piru | no, just sl |
| 00:12.08 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn, linked the thingy there |
| 00:12.14 | simonrvn | ok |
| 00:12.24 | Piru | so now all lusers have access to it |
| 00:12.37 | Bor_Ed | install here is on /usr/local/RealPlayer/ |
| 00:12.41 | Piru | same |
| 00:12.42 | Bor_Ed | and lusers can run it |
| 00:12.47 | Piru | yep |
| 00:13.06 | Bor_Ed | clean way to wipe the buggr if it behaves badly |
| 00:14.30 | Piru | and nice for upgrades, too |
| 00:14.49 | Piru | less likely to get some weird badass conflicts later |
| 00:14.55 | Bor_Ed | yup, I just did rm -rf for old ver |
| 00:15.06 | Bor_Ed | (rp8) |
| 00:15.19 | simonrvn | ooh nice |
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| 00:15.46 | Bor_Ed | what now ? :) |
| 00:16.19 | simonrvn | point it at something ;p |
| 00:17.03 | Bor_Ed | I've got download running but I'll try... |
| 00:17.12 | Bor_Ed | http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram |
| 00:17.41 | simonrvn | ooh |
| 00:18.21 | Bor_Ed | playing the stream just fine... and ? |
| 00:18.22 | simonrvn | easy on the cpu too |
| 00:18.29 | simonrvn | yup |
| 00:18.36 | Bor_Ed | easier than 8.x was |
| 00:18.41 | myXtie | Bor_Ed what is diff between https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/795/hxplay-1.0.2.610-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-powerpc.bin and https://helixcommunity.org/download.php/805/realplay-10.0.2.608-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-powerpc.bin ? I fail to understand the version jump. |
| 00:18.47 | simonrvn | yes, definitely |
| 00:18.59 | Bor_Ed | hxplay doesn't have the codecs realplay has |
| 00:19.08 | simonrvn | myXtie: different binaries |
| 00:19.21 | Bor_Ed | that too :D |
| 00:20.08 | myXtie | oh duh sorry I asked stupid question sorry I need to eat something ...sorry again |
| 00:20.11 | Bor_Ed | anyway, after using the realplay 10 ppc for a day on several sites, I can pretty much recommend any 8.x user to upgrade to it, it just works(tm) |
| 00:21.15 | simonrvn | looks like he's getting ready for a spacewalk |
| 00:21.46 | Bor_Ed | I did drop the stream already, have some other stuff to take enough bandwidth |
| 00:22.00 | Bor_Ed | I shot the url just to proof that the buggr works |
| 00:22.12 | simonrvn | thanks :) |
| 00:22.57 | Bor_Ed | hey, I just try to give the info I have, just like everyone else here :) |
| 00:23.57 | myXtie | well the only use I have for realplayer codex is BBC programming and I have written them about using open source codex |
| 00:25.06 | myXtie | but we all know they dropped the likes of ogg sometime ago stating that they had enough to manage without more streams to add |
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| 00:25.47 | Bor_Ed | mplayer plays most of the formats so just install that and mplayerplug-in |
| 00:26.06 | myXtie | what you think ? Stallman would approve simonrvn ? |
| 00:26.33 | simonrvn | i know stallman would bitch |
| 00:27.24 | myXtie | Bor_Ed I have mplayer on openbsd and on my 601 powerpc but it needs something ( some work ) |
| 00:27.40 | myXtie | 601 runs woody |
| 00:27.55 | Veep | I tried to install debian's 2.6.8 package and it crashes during boot (cramfs errors, first). This is on an imac with 32M of memory, I installed woody first, then updated everything but the kernel to testing. Then tried the kernel 2.6.8-9 upgrade. Is there some yaboot setting or something else I've done wrong? |
| 00:28.33 | Bor_Ed | I use mplayer here for formats that aren't supported by mozplugger, bmp or real |
| 00:30.01 | simonrvn | Veep: uses an initrd. man yaboot.conf (google for it if you're not in linux right now) |
| 00:30.41 | Veep | yeah, the yaboot.conf has initrd lines for the new kernel |
| 00:32.34 | simonrvn | ran ybin after editing? |
| 00:32.41 | myXtie | Bor_Ed yeah I'm on sid install now and I used to run mplayer but I find xine does all mplayer does and is cleaner on debian with debs. ffmpeg is in both xine and mplayer |
| 00:33.14 | Veep | pretty sure, yeah. I can go go through the whole process again. |
| 00:33.18 | Bor_Ed | myXtie, I've only found mplayer deb lines so that's what I use |
| 00:33.30 | Veep | since this doesn't seem to be an otherwise-known problem. |
| 00:33.31 | Piru | some nice wrapper .deb for mplayer would be cool.. fetching src and building it with good options |
| 00:34.32 | myXtie | Bor_Ed where did you get prebuilt mplayer deb ? |
| 00:34.32 | Bor_Ed | Piru, there's mplayer sources for unstable |
| 00:34.55 | simonrvn | @mplayer |
| 00:34.56 | Bor_Ed | deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ |
| 00:34.56 | ravenbird | mplayer is at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ . for debian packages, see http://hpisi.nerim.net/ and the url for debian packages moved to ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ |
| 00:34.56 | Bor_Ed | deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 00:35.06 | simonrvn | meh. fixing... |
| 00:35.15 | Bor_Ed | danke |
| 00:35.50 | simonrvn | no mplayer is <reply>deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main for the source, and deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ |
| 00:35.53 | simonrvn | @no mplayer is <reply>deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main for the source, and deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ |
| 00:35.54 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
| 00:35.54 | Bor_Ed | myXtie, my lines from ^ |
| 00:36.03 | myXtie | thanks Bor_Ed |
| 00:36.17 | simonrvn | @no mplayer is <reply>deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main for the source, and deb http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/debian/ mplayer/ for PPC .debs |
| 00:36.18 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
| 00:36.43 | Bor_Ed | np |
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| 00:48.28 | Veep | adding or removing the initrd-size line didn't help. After yaboot picks a linux to run, there's a Ramdisk Loading (or something similar) message, then a "Claim failed [stuff that I don't see because the message is only there for a split second]" message. Is that the problem or is that normal? |
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| 01:12.51 | denken | hmm has anyone played with the linux-bcom4301 code at SF ? |
| 01:14.48 | dj-death | what code ? |
| 01:15.55 | denken | appears to be some driver code in cvs |
| 01:19.37 | dj-death | cvs files are more than 10 months old |
| 01:24.36 | denken | i only asked if anyone had played with it :) |
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| 01:37.06 | Veep | aha, the message is "claim failed for initrd memory". This is unfixable right? |
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| 03:08.10 | demon | so, does the current quik package in sid support loading initrds? I know someone was working on unbreaking it so that it could, but I wasn't sure if someone had packaed it |
| 03:08.12 | demon | er, packaged |
| 03:08.28 | jtth | is there support for isight in debian ppc? |
| 03:10.16 | demon | apt-get install gnomemeeting libpt-plugins-avc libpt-plugins-dc |
| 03:10.28 | demon | ^^^^ that's what you need |
| 03:10.59 | assassin | w00t... slackintosh died :'( |
| 03:12.14 | demon | an install of it, or the project? |
| 03:13.25 | assassin | demon: the project :'( |
| 03:13.45 | demon | ah |
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| 03:44.46 | xbaez | someone know about the problem of pmu |
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| 03:46.18 | assassin | xbaez: Ummm more specific? |
| 03:47.07 | xbaez | yes i have gnome, and each time that start showme an error of permissions in /dev/pmu |
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| 13:47.56 | deadsmith | where's the control file for the default trackpad behavior? |
| 13:48.25 | deadsmith | (e.g. fn+alt+F1 changes the behavior, but how do I set it to a different default?) |
| 13:54.48 | pahartik | deadsmith: use "powerprefs" or edit "/etc/pbbuttonsd.conf" |
| 14:08.44 | deadsmith | hrmmm, I thought it was in pbbuttons.conf, but I didn't see anything... lemme try powerprefs... |
| 14:11.59 | pahartik | deadsmith: it is in "[MODULE PMAC]", near the end of my "/etc/pbbuttonsd.conf" |
| 14:22.32 | deadsmith | pahartik, thanks, I got it. just too early in the morning. |
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| 15:37.59 | t4 | i got an offer for rs6k's (43p /150|375). what would be a fair price for them ? |
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| 16:06.31 | yason | Hi, can someone confirm whether Sarge's kernel images include the benh patches? |
| 16:09.26 | yason | Background: I'm new to PPC Linux anyway. Currently I have kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc installed on a PB/G4/12" and I'm wondering why e.g. fblevel doesn't affect the backlighting setting. It may be that 1) I have a vanilla PPC kernel or 2) the PB hardware is too new for any Linux kernel. |
| 16:14.42 | pahartik | yason: i use Linux 2.6.10 from kernel-source-2.6.10, configured and optimized for my iBook G4... "fblevel" works as expected |
| 16:16.12 | yason | pahartik: Might be the PB/G4 hardware, then? I'll have to cross-check with 2.6.10 though.. |
| 16:18.00 | yason | What's the difference between kernel-image-2.6.8-{power4,powerpc}* by the way? |
| 16:18.37 | Piru | power4 is different cpu series. power |
| 16:18.42 | Bor_Ed | different cpus |
| 16:18.56 | yason | G4 is "powerpc" then? |
| 16:18.59 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 16:19.12 | Piru | don't mix that 4 |
| 16:19.18 | Piru | power4 is NOT g4 |
| 16:19.54 | Piru | g3, g4, g5 are all powerpc.. it's "powerpc generation n" |
| 16:20.39 | pahartik | Piru: ...in terms defined by "Apple Computer" |
| 16:21.57 | yason | Hmmm, 2.8.10 in unstable only |
| 16:22.09 | Bor_Ed | Linux g3 2.6.11-rc1-bk6 #1 Wed Jan 19 14:20:34 EET 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 16:22.11 | Bor_Ed | and ? |
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| 16:23.08 | yason | pahartik: Anyway, was the benh patch set included in 2.6.x or do the references to it still apply? |
| 16:23.26 | Piru | pahartik, and used quite widely elsewhere, too |
| 16:24.08 | Piru | I'm happy with both 7447 and G4 :) |
| 16:26.25 | yason | Isn't iBook/G4 more recent than PowerBook/G4 ? |
| 16:28.34 | yason | (It must be, of course.) |
| 16:29.11 | yason | Does anyone know whether the backlight is controlled separately by Mac hardware, or via the graphics chip itself? |
| 16:33.16 | yason | I already found out that sleeping doesn't work on this PB, because it's not publicly known how to reset the NVidia chip on wakeup. I'd still like to at least control the backlight. :) |
| 16:36.19 | pahartik | yason: does your "/boot/config-$(uname -r)" have "CONFIG_PMAC_BACKLIGHT=y" |
| 16:42.00 | yason | pahartik: Yup |
| 16:42.19 | yason | and looks fairly reasonable to me anyway (*_PBOOK=y etc.) |
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| 17:38.08 | Maiexus | what is the touchpad-type of an PowerBook Titanium. Becouse I need the tap emulation for the second mouse-button (ugly with just one mouse-button ..) |
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| 18:25.53 | yason | re |
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| 18:26.56 | xbaez | damn! yesterday tray to compile again my kernel with behn's patch and failed :( |
| 18:28.30 | Maiexus | so no one knowes the tap-emulation für the second mouse-button? exists there on? |
| 18:29.04 | yason | Maiexus: xev ? or maybe they both bind to mouse button 1 |
| 18:29.31 | yason | xbaez: do you need benh's patchset these days, e.g. with 2.6.x ? |
| 18:31.26 | Maiexus | what's xev? |
| 18:32.03 | yason | Maiexus: an x11 program that shows input events you create |
| 18:32.06 | Maiexus | so, my goal would be, to tap with to fingers in the touchpad and this would result into a 2.-Mouse-Button's click |
| 18:32.17 | Maiexus | ? |
| 18:32.42 | yason | Maiexus: run "xev" in a terminal window under X |
| 18:32.47 | yason | you'll get the picture |
| 18:33.39 | Maiexus | yes, well the problem isn't to fetch an event, the problem is, that the toucpad of an mac has just button |
| 18:33.56 | xbaez | yason, yes, i want sleep my ibook |
| 18:34.11 | Maiexus | and this is a trap for me |
| 18:34.26 | Maiexus | ... has just 1 button |
| 18:34.40 | xbaez | yason, i tried with kernel 2.6.9 |
| 18:39.07 | yason | Maiexus: use xev to reveal whether the touchpad-tap produces a different input event code than the mouse button 1 |
| 18:39.39 | yason | xbaez: I have Sarge kernel 2.6.8 on my PowerBook and I can't sleep it nor does the backlight adjusting work at all |
| 18:39.52 | Q-FUNK | 2.6.11-rc2 failed to compile here. |
| 18:39.57 | yason | xbaez: I just wondered a couple of hours ago whether I still need benh's patches with debian kernels.. :) |
| 18:40.52 | yason | Q-FUNK: Where can I get 2.5/2.6 patchset anyway? Is there one? |
| 18:41.50 | Maiexus | hmm, probably I express my issue wrong. Or Iam wrong... In every howto linux on ppc there is a remark how to map the F-Keys to the second and third mouse button. But is there a X-Driver out there, which can emulate the taps to clicks? |
| 18:41.55 | randyg | $3449 for a dual 1.65ghz power5 box... why doesn't that sound very cheap to me? |
| 18:42.30 | randyg | and IBM touts it as a cheap/budget server?! |
| 18:43.23 | yason | Maiexus: I don't know: I'd just check out with xev whether the touchpad-tap is _already_ recognized as a different button than the one mac mouse button :) |
| 18:45.14 | xbaez | yason, :) , i want to compile the kernel because the temperature of cpu is almost the limit always and is for one option that i must change in new kernel and for sleep my ibook |
| 18:46.11 | yason | xbaez: Have you got an nvidia or ati chip in your ibook? |
| 18:46.57 | xbaez | ati radeon 9200 |
| 18:47.36 | yason | xbaez: I'll be compiling a benh kernel too then tomorrow.. I first assumed that Ben's patches are included in Debian's powerpc kernel images.. |
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| 18:48.48 | Maiexus | and, could you tell me, if the new airport"onboard" card in the aluminium-series work now on linux? |
| 18:48.49 | yason | xbaez: Lucky you, I have nvidia which I believe prevents me from sleeping anyway even if I compile a benh kernel.. |
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| 18:52.00 | xbaez | yason, nop, this patch for sleep is new, but someone in this channel sayme that will be added in kernel-2.6.11 |
| 18:52.02 | Maiexus | ok, I asume, that this cards don't work :[... |
| 18:52.49 | xbaez | yason, oh i don't knew that, then i was lucky :) |
| 18:54.00 | yason | xbaez: so, the older benh stuff is in 2.6.x? |
| 18:55.14 | Petro | Maiexus: nope |
| 18:55.41 | Petro | Maiexus: It's still Airport Extreme, and Broadcom isn't releasing info about it any time soon. |
| 18:56.14 | yason | Petro: does it even work as a 802.11b card? |
| 18:56.42 | Petro | yason: Neither, you can buy an external 802.11b usb dongle |
| 18:56.53 | Maiexus | fu... |
| 18:57.26 | Maiexus | well, I can't understand why apple gives the broadcom cards on the way... |
| 18:58.23 | Petro | Maiexus: not that many people run gnu/linux on apple machines for Apple to put pressure on Broadcom or go looking for an alternative |
| 18:58.24 | yason | Maiexus: They probably plan to not roll in loads of cash designing their h/w for Linux geeks .. |
| 18:59.02 | Petro | Anyways I think FCC regulations make it imposible for them to have the drivers easily modifiable |
| 18:59.08 | xbaez | yason, the patch works in kernel 2.6.9 |
| 18:59.47 | yason | xbaez: did you use kernel-patch-powerpc-2.4.x from debian or did you get the diffs somewhere else? |
| 19:00.24 | yason | Petro: they don't seem to stop other vendors releasing information, and the regulations vary in each country :/ |
| 19:01.48 | xbaez | yason, i get the patch from here http://gate.crashing.org/~benh/albook-ibookg4-sleep-7.diff |
| 19:02.02 | pahartik | yason: i did not mind much about being forced to buy Airport Extreme adapter with iBook G4... i took it out and sold it |
| 19:02.53 | yason | Petro: is there some sort of PPC hardware virtualization layer like plex86/vmware for x86? |
| 19:03.07 | yason | Petro: for OS X, I mean |
| 19:03.34 | Petro | I'm not familiar with that, you could check out www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ |
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| 19:04.11 | Maiexus | well.. especialy because I don't have a pb yet, I mention to get an titanium. There I have "just" 11gb, but the driver works |
| 19:04.46 | Maiexus | are there big differences between the PB alu and titan? |
| 19:05.20 | yason | Petro: I'll go googling a bit. I'd be happy running Linux even on top of OS X |
| 19:05.41 | Petro | Nope, that only exists the other way around with mac-on-linux |
| 19:05.49 | Petro | I see what you mean |
| 19:06.48 | Maiexus | well. in "linux on os x" I don't see the future, hence you directly can work on os x |
| 19:07.32 | Maiexus | has some one did expieriences with the TiBooks IV ? |
| 19:07.45 | Maiexus | ouh man... what an englisch ... |
| 19:08.20 | yason | Maiexus: It's a bit alien to me, I'd still rather work with Debian GNU/Linux environment. I need OS X occasionally, but not primarily |
| 19:08.39 | Petro | yason: yeah just run mac-on-linux |
| 19:09.58 | yason | Petro: I would if Linux could sleep the PB and access the essential hardware.. Maybe some of that will be sorted out as soon as I get to compile a kernel with the latest benh patches |
| 19:10.50 | Petro | yason: I thought they were included in the unstable kernel, mine works great on an iBook but that might be diff h/w |
| 19:12.25 | yason | Petro: To me it was a bit unclear. It seems that his older work is now part of the latest 2.6.x series. Might be hardware issue, yes, I've got a month old PowerBook/G4 |
| 19:14.20 | Maiexus | oh and, is there script on sid, what reacts on susp to ram and logs me out from X after wake up`? |
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| 19:20.45 | xbaez | for me, debian on my ibook work great, even if not have sleep, but i have macosx because i want to know how works mac and because someone say that the movies in linux play slower than in macosx, i'm not sure ... |
| 19:23.26 | Maiexus | this isn't a problem for me, because I want to use it mostly as an office-station in school |
| 19:24.26 | sfire||mouse | until I know how to set up vnc for OSX securely, I need my mac |
| 19:24.35 | sfire||mouse | and I'm used to OSX :) |
| 19:24.58 | Maiexus | oh, and do you have an idea, which daemons sends some stuff to the disk every second? |
| 19:25.21 | yason | xbaez: Hey, it seems that your patch might correct my sleep problems as well. I'll test it asap. Now, if only fblevel started also working, too.. |
| 19:27.54 | Maiexus | sends the kernel some signals to somewhere after it wakes up? |
| 19:31.15 | xbaez | yason, what ? you compile the kernel with patch ? |
| 19:32.36 | yason | xbaez: That diff you pointed me to |
| 19:35.25 | Maiexus | do you recognize also, that you get logged of after wakeup from ram? |
| 19:37.20 | xbaez | yason, so you already compile and works fine ? |
| 19:39.28 | yason | xbaez: Not compiling yet, read some background. It doesn't apply to Aluminum PB with 12" screen, which I have. Stupid nvidia. |
| 19:39.44 | Maiexus | haha :) |
| 19:40.13 | yason | I sometimes wonder how hard could it be to look at the geforce kernel extension. mine had symbols in it :) |
| 19:40.40 | Maiexus | had? |
| 19:40.43 | Maiexus | haha ^^ |
| 19:40.48 | Maiexus | stupid nvidia |
| 19:41.14 | yason | I'm not a hardware hacker though but after I learned which OS X tools correspond to e.g. objdump I could dig around in the disassembly of the geforce's kext |
| 19:41.33 | yason | IIRC Ben once posted that the problem with 12" PB's (with nvidia) was to reset the geforce chip after sleep |
| 19:41.48 | yason | I could imagine it won't take many (dozens) of instructions.. |
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| 19:44.24 | grivell | apt, macmini |
| 19:47.22 | xbaez | yason, oh! i see |
| 19:58.08 | grivell | Anyone get sound working on MacMini yet? :) |
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| 19:59.22 | Bor_Ed | you have one with linux there ? |
| 20:00.59 | grivell | yes |
| 20:01.20 | grivell | Running Sarge. But Kernel 2.6.10 (from unstable). |
| 20:01.27 | grivell | No soundcard detected. |
| 20:02.02 | grivell | If you want to install Linux on it, same as iBook G4 ;) No troubles. |
| 20:02.07 | dj-death | whats about lspci ? |
| 20:02.15 | grivell | Didn't list it there. |
| 20:02.23 | Bor_Ed | or modprobe snd-powermac |
| 20:02.31 | grivell | It's compiled in. |
| 20:02.32 | dj-death | strange |
| 20:02.57 | sfire||mouse | hmm, how does one list usb devices? |
| 20:03.05 | grivell | lsusb |
| 20:03.27 | grivell | With usbutils installed (If I remember) |
| 20:03.42 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 20:03.47 | Bor_Ed | or from hotplug |
| 20:05.27 | sfire||mouse | try that? |
| 20:17.48 | grivell | Ahh, MacMini = no sound. Different chipset then my iBook. Has same root chipset as G5's (which also have no sound). |
| 20:20.20 | Q-FUNK | svenl: any news on that /dev/pmu patch for control-center? any ETA on the updated packages? |
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| 20:29.34 | grivell | Q-FUNK: pmu patch? Just make sure PMU has right permissions. |
| 20:39.59 | randyg | sfire||mouse: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices works here |
| 20:41.55 | randyg | mine displays a heck of a lot of stuff... probably related to having two hubs, a mouse, two printers, a microscope, two tablets, digicam, flash reader, usb audio gizmo, scanner, and a few other things plugged in. :) |
| 20:42.35 | grivell | 2 hubs? I have problems filling one ;) |
| 20:43.07 | randyg | I need a third... my other two printers have nowhere to plug in, so I have to swap cables to use them. |
| 20:43.21 | grivell | I have DVD-RW, 3.5" USB-hd, 2.5" USB-hd, SB Extigy, Camera, mouse. |
| 20:43.23 | sfire||mouse | heh |
| 20:43.23 | pahartik | randyg: i would prefer having most those on IEEE-1394 |
| 20:43.38 | pahartik | randyg: ...most of those... |
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| 20:43.54 | randyg | pahartik: want to buy me a 1394 card and newer gadjets? :) |
| 20:44.32 | ruarl | hey all |
| 20:44.56 | ruarl | I'm after some advice. Anyone care to help me out? |
| 20:44.56 | randyg | I had a usb cd-rw, but opening it up showed an IDE drive with a usb-ide adapter... made it into an internal drive instead of an external one. |
| 20:45.13 | randyg | I only have usb1.1, not 2.0... |
| 20:45.50 | randyg | I want a third tablet, but can't afford it. :( |
| 20:46.58 | grivell | randyg: I used a USB enclosure and bought an internal DVD-RW for it ;) |
| 20:47.39 | randyg | grivell: the use being...? :) |
| 20:47.58 | pahartik | randyg: iBook G4 is my first device with USB host capabilities... my PalmOS device does have USB but i use IrDA on serial port to communicate with it |
| 20:48.17 | randyg | heh |
| 20:48.18 | grivell | randyg: laptop |
| 20:48.33 | randyg | grivell: ah. probably was chaper than buying a dvdrw that fit? :) |
| 20:48.38 | grivell | I don't use desktops. I consider them legacy ;) |
| 20:48.44 | grivell | randyg: yep |
| 20:48.50 | randyg | I can't afford laptops. buy me one? :P |
| 20:49.14 | randyg | I can't even afford desktops either... all I have is used hardware. |
| 20:49.31 | grivell | hmm. I'll raise money. Do you have ass herpes ? ;) (sorry, I watched Daily Show repeat today) |
| 20:49.38 | randyg | huh? |
| 20:49.55 | grivell | Never heard of "the daily show?" |
| 20:50.09 | randyg | never watch it |
| 20:50.49 | grivell | Pretty funny episode today. It's the only news I watch. Besides sports news. |
| 20:51.06 | randyg | I don't watch tv... |
| 20:53.15 | grivell | Then you miss Detroit Pistons :-P |
| 20:54.16 | randyg | never heard of it/them |
| 20:54.51 | grivell | NBA Basketball team. They won championship last year. |
| 20:55.09 | grivell | Sleep awaits. Later. |
| 20:55.13 | randyg | cyas |
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| 21:03.39 | sjoerd | Q-FUNK: we're currently working on the final version of the patch.. |
| 21:07.05 | randyg | hrmm. I just realized that in the last 30 days, linux has not swapped a single byte. I need to use more ram! |
| 21:08.59 | sfire||mouse | haha |
| 21:10.06 | randyg | I only use lots of ram when doing graphics, and I haven't done any lately |
| 21:10.34 | sfire||mouse | I have a machine way overpowered for what it does |
| 21:10.41 | sfire||mouse | I don't trust the HD on ti |
| 21:10.48 | randyg | heh |
| 21:11.00 | randyg | this is a dual p3-866 w/ 2gb of ram... not overpowered for raytracing. |
| 21:11.16 | randyg | there does not exist a system overpowered for raytracing. :) |
| 21:11.34 | sfire||mouse | http://a.thesae.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/cricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Fa2.sae.k12.ca.us%2Feth0;view=Octets |
| 21:11.55 | sfire||mouse | http://a.thesae.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/cricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Fa2.sae.k12.ca.us%2Fprocessor;view=CPU |
| 21:12.03 | randyg | one of the big animation houses (pixar IIRC) says that some frames take nine hours (!) on their entire renderfarm... |
| 21:12.21 | sfire||mouse | though I wonder what it did at midnight |
| 21:12.50 | randyg | probably updatedb or something |
| 21:12.54 | randyg | log rotation |
| 21:12.57 | randyg | etc |
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| 21:13.48 | sfire||mouse | the first url is network |
| 21:14.05 | sfire||mouse | oh, wait |
| 21:14.12 | sfire||mouse | thats not midnight, its noon |
| 21:14.13 | sfire||mouse | nm |
| 21:14.17 | randyg | lol |
| 21:14.18 | sfire||mouse | apt-get update :) |
| 21:14.28 | randyg | what's the box? |
| 21:14.38 | sfire||mouse | freeradius server |
| 21:14.46 | randyg | specs? |
| 21:16.40 | sfire||mouse | 451.0436 MHz. |
| 21:17.09 | randyg | hrmm. you must have a disk bottleneck... apt-get pegs the cpu here. |
| 21:17.31 | sfire||mouse | http://a.thesae.k12.ca.us/cgi-bin/cricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Fa2.sae.k12.ca.us%2Fmemory%20subsystem;view=Memory |
| 21:17.36 | sfire||mouse | yeah |
| 21:17.41 | sfire||mouse | the disk sucks |
| 21:18.02 | sfire||mouse | hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61 |
| 21:18.02 | sfire||mouse | hda: error waiting for DMA |
| 21:18.02 | sfire||mouse | hda: dma timeout retry: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } |
| 21:18.12 | randyg | yep, that would do it |
| 21:19.20 | sfire||mouse | I want to see if the linksys routers I have here can be modded to do the freeradius job local |
| 21:19.28 | randyg | blah. looks like today is clean the garage day. need to set up a table to put the soldering iron on... |
| 21:20.05 | sfire||mouse | heh |
| 21:20.22 | randyg | I don't like stinking up the house with lead smoke |
| 21:20.42 | sfire||mouse | oh, happen to have an old copy of Netscape 4.x available on a system? :) |
| 21:20.46 | randyg | plus my garage has a frigging huge ventallation fan which sucks it all out rather than lets it accumulate. |
| 21:21.03 | randyg | sfire||mouse: yep. |
| 21:21.22 | sfire||mouse | nm, got stuffit expander to work I think |
| 21:21.30 | randyg | the left half of this x2x setup runs netscape 4.7... it's about 50 times faster than firefox. |
| 21:22.04 | sfire||mouse | does http://www.thesae.k12.ca.us/main/welcome.shtml look good? |
| 21:22.16 | sfire||mouse | and how does http://www.thesae.k12.ca.us/main/FAQS.shtml look |
| 21:22.51 | randyg | both look fine, but it won't do CSS |
| 21:23.06 | randyg | so I see it without the stylesheets |
| 21:23.11 | sfire||mouse | cool |
| 21:23.21 | sfire||mouse | thats what I want to test |
| 21:23.31 | randyg | you're an artist, or just a web designer for them? :) |
| 21:23.42 | sfire||mouse | how older browsers handle it |
| 21:23.48 | sfire||mouse | IT |
| 21:24.11 | sfire||mouse | so network, phone, Student Information System, etc |
| 21:24.14 | randyg | heh. I've always wanted to be able to do ANYTHING creative, but so far have failed. :( |
| 21:24.49 | sfire||mouse | heh, I had fun doing the website, based it on the frontpage site made for them |
| 21:25.38 | randyg | I'm more of a web coder than a web designer... |
| 21:25.51 | sfire||mouse | dynamic stuff? |
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| 21:28.11 | randyg | database-backed sites, e-commerce, etc. |
| 21:28.22 | sfire||mouse | cool |
| 21:28.42 | sfire||mouse | man this site is ugly in 4.08 |
| 21:28.49 | randyg | I prefer simple, functional sites... eyecandy is bad. |
| 21:30.25 | sfire||mouse | meh, and the FAQ fails like I want it too :( |
| 21:31.05 | randyg | ? |
| 21:36.25 | Q-FUNK | sjoerd: nice to hear. :) any ETA on an upload to unstable? |
| 21:37.15 | sjoerd | should be pretty soon |
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| 21:54.22 | Sam-I-Am | morning |
| 21:54.32 | randyg | heyas |
| 21:54.45 | sfire||mouse | randyg: I made the css work on the FAQ for IE, but breaks Safari, and firefox. but on NS4, it ignores the css, and puts the faq questions first, ( because it comes first in the html ) and the other pages use css to display the side bar as content that comes last |
| 21:55.14 | Sam-I-Am | spent this morning in the ER |
| 21:55.30 | sfire||mouse | but only 2% visit with NS4, I may toss out the FAQ specific css |
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| 22:13.45 | Maiexus | uhm, and whats with the sleep-command in the sid-kernel? |
| 22:27.08 | randyg | sfire||mouse: dunno. I don't use CSS. I stick to good old HTML with no browserisms. that way it works in everything, including lynx... |
| 22:27.12 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I can get quadra 950 and lc475 at cost of shipping here.... not quite ppcs but nice stuff still |
| 22:28.07 | randyg | 33mhz or so? :P |
| 22:28.46 | sfire||mouse | hey, I think I have a Centris 610 back where I grew up |
| 22:29.09 | randyg | brb, phone |
| 22:31.03 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 22:31.28 | Bor_Ed | 950 would be nice for a/ux I think |
| 22:54.39 | randyg | hrmm. where is simonrvn? |
| 22:55.04 | Bor_Ed | mia ? |
| 23:01.12 | pahartik | randyg: i think he jumped off |
| 23:01.43 | randyg | jumped off? |
| 23:04.28 | randyg | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5158309100&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT <== I want that... but need to send the last of my cash off to the car insurance people instead. :( |
| 23:05.54 | Q-FUNK | so Bor_Ed |
| 23:06.09 | Bor_Ed | Q-FUNK, yes ? |
| 23:07.19 | randyg | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4067&item=6148378074&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW <== I want one of those too, but that's something I really can't justify spending money on. :) |
| 23:07.24 | randyg | bbl, back to cleaning the garage |
| 23:13.01 | pahartik | randyg: about 19 hours and 20 minutes ago he said "good bye" and left with the bot |
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| 23:14.23 | randyg | pahartik: hrmm |
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