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| 01:20.34 | Curalton | ehhh, anyone seen X not accepting keyboard input on an ibook? it all goes to the 2nd vtty as garbage |
| 01:20.49 | Curalton | restarting X "fixes" it |
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| 01:59.29 | randyg | blargh... ran out of propane. carried the tiny tank from the BBQ out to the back yard, and plugged the entire house into it. I give it about a day... |
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| 03:02.58 | xbaez | hi someone have compile the kernel 2.6.9 with benh's patch in ibook g4 ? |
| 03:07.51 | chrisa | @ibook g4 |
| 03:07.58 | chrisa | hmmm, the bot is gone |
| 03:08.02 | chrisa | Oh, right... I know why |
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| 03:11.01 | deadcat | xbaez: why do you need to use benh's patch? i am using 2.6.10 source via apt-get and everything works fine on my g3 ibook. |
| 03:13.28 | xbaez | deadcat, i need it for sleep my ibook |
| 03:14.41 | deadcat | xbaez: works fine here. (= |
| 03:14.57 | deadcat | xbaez: i close the lid it sleep, i press the ON button it sleeps. |
| 03:15.27 | deadcat | you need pbbuttonsd+powernowd+gtkpbbuttons |
| 03:15.43 | deadcat | now 2.6.10 bootsplash help... |
| 03:18.35 | xbaez | deadcat, but i have a g4 and for that ibook needs a patch in kernel |
| 03:20.24 | deadcat | xbaez: oh... |
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| 05:46.53 | randyg | yay! cat came back!!!!! |
| 05:47.15 | randyg | happy |
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| 11:17.51 | puzzled | hello |
| 11:19.34 | puzzled | I used the sarge--powerpc-bc-lbb.iso to boot my 32bit ppc rs6k to install debian on it. I can't figure out how to create the PReP (0x41) partition in the partition section of the installer. Anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 11:27.06 | pahartik | puzzled: do you know how to do that in shell? |
| 11:27.29 | puzzled | yes but I am using a serial cable hooked up to the box and minicom |
| 11:28.46 | puzzled | pahartik: are you saying that next to the installer there is also a normal shell available? |
| 11:28.58 | puzzled | when starting it from a normal console |
| 11:29.22 | pahartik | puzzled: oh... can you start installer in a way that it ends up in shell by default? |
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| 11:29.48 | puzzled | pahartik: i have no idea how to do that. i'm totally new to debian |
| 11:30.58 | pahartik | puzzled: if you have access to "virtual consoles", one is open for installer, one is ready for shell, two show logs and textual output from installer |
| 11:31.22 | puzzled | ok good, i've seen that before on other linux systems |
| 11:31.41 | yogin | hi everyone... im quite new with linux.... can someone help in getting the sound working .... |
| 11:32.05 | yogin | i just installed the latest kernel version |
| 11:32.41 | pahartik | yogin: "modprobe snd--powermac" |
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| 13:23.53 | yogin | hello everyone.. |
| 13:24.39 | yogin | can somebody direct me some useful links in troubleshooting the sound and special keys for powepc |
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| 14:46.37 | jaska | yay for info segfaulting |
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| 14:47.16 | jaska | oh well, pinfo works and is better anyway |
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| 15:09.28 | pirate | What's the status with AirPort Extreme cards? |
| 15:11.30 | pirate | Ah, ok. |
| 15:11.33 | pirate | That sucks =/ |
| 15:11.34 | Bor_Ed | won't work in this lifetime |
| 15:11.40 | xbaez | pirate, not work |
| 15:12.15 | pirate | Wonder if going postal on Apple would help release the driver. |
| 15:12.43 | sjoerd | you need to go postal on broadcom, not apple |
| 15:13.05 | pirate | What selfish prats. |
| 15:13.30 | pirate | Bor_Ed: Not even in 20 years? |
| 15:13.52 | Bor_Ed | I don't think there's airport express thingies in 20 years |
| 15:14.25 | pirate | Sheesh. |
| 15:14.40 | pirate | Just from looking at the site I guess Broadcom manufacture those lame Wireless-B routers that don't work with AirPort Extreme cards. |
| 15:15.02 | pirate | That's seriously messed up. Devices from the same source don't even have compatibility. |
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| 16:27.15 | grivell | Piranha: try usb wifi :) |
| 16:27.22 | grivell | apt, airport |
| 16:27.23 | apt | if idiots are airplanes then #debian is an airport... a type of wireless card supported under Linux. Airport Extreme is not. Get a D-Link DWL-122 USB which is Linux compatible. |
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| 16:27.34 | grivell | oh he left. |
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| 16:50.37 | pahartik | solution is to use Bluetooth instead of 802.11 |
| 16:51.50 | Bor_Ed | bluetooth... solution ... hey, give me some of those mushrooms too :D |
| 16:56.08 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: using it happily right now... no problem |
| 16:56.26 | jaska | bluesuck :) |
| 16:56.31 | Bor_Ed | amen :D |
| 16:57.06 | jaska | #define local |
| 16:57.12 | Bor_Ed | say hi to the dude with tux tie |
| 16:57.12 | jaska | tampere? |
| 16:58.48 | pahartik | jaska: yes, http://www.khdrive.fi/linkku/ |
| 16:59.09 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I know we have lug here but have no idea how to join in ... |
| 16:59.40 | jaska | vaasa? |
| 16:59.49 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 16:59.57 | jaska | i was with them when they started it |
| 17:00.05 | jaska | kinda went separate ways once i moved to hki |
| 17:00.07 | Bor_Ed | got a site ? |
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| 17:00.36 | jaska | nothing thatd work currently |
| 17:00.58 | Bor_Ed | oh well, got to ask from warez harri if he'd know.... |
| 17:02.53 | jaska | vaasalug.org does exist |
| 17:02.57 | jaska | samjay has it |
| 17:03.14 | jaska | nothing there to afaik |
| 17:03.21 | Bor_Ed | hmm |
| 17:03.47 | jaska | if you know him |
| 17:04.02 | Bor_Ed | not at least from nick |
| 17:04.10 | jaska | dunno if he ircs |
| 17:04.40 | Bor_Ed | linux user that don't irc... now that'd be new :D |
| 17:05.03 | jaska | iirc ari hovila had something to do with it, or some other ex-uwasa ppl |
| 17:05.09 | jaska | hrrmrr |
| 17:05.52 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I'll ask from the unix dude on uwasa next time I drop by to pick some junk from there... |
| 17:05.58 | Bor_Ed | he prolly knows something |
| 17:06.01 | jaska | yeah they might have some clue about it |
| 17:06.14 | jaska | atleast i remember some uwasa/ericsson people in it |
| 17:06.20 | grivell | Bor_Ed: I'm a Linux user that don't irc ;) |
| 17:06.32 | Bor_Ed | grivell, well, you idle :P |
| 17:06.42 | grivell | lol |
| 17:07.08 | grivell | I wonder if I set a record for continues iBook usage without shutdown ;) |
| 17:07.27 | grivell | continuous even |
| 17:07.32 | Bor_Ed | buggr... ibook... send me one too |
| 17:07.33 | jaska | heh, 671d uptime \o> |
| 17:07.56 | grivell | 671d uptime? And no flip over with jiffies? |
| 17:07.58 | Bor_Ed | I had ~300 days here before power went down on ex-server |
| 17:08.03 | jaska | yeah it flipped over |
| 17:08.54 | al_ | 671.. |
| 17:08.58 | al_ | you have a 2.2 kernel ?.. |
| 17:09.09 | jaska | oh, its not _my_ box, nor do i have root on it |
| 17:09.10 | grivell | My server has ups :) But I don't care about uptime. If a new kernel comes out I use it (mainly for security issues). |
| 17:09.29 | jaska | al, yeah, its a x86 box tho |
| 17:09.37 | Bor_Ed | I upgraded to 2.6.11 too after the 2.6.10 hole was broadcasted |
| 17:11.11 | grivell | 2.6.11 isn't out yet |
| 17:11.17 | Bor_Ed | Linux g3 2.6.11-rc1-bk6 #1 Wed Jan 19 14:20:34 EET 2005 ppc GNU/Linux |
| 17:11.19 | Bor_Ed | yea... |
| 17:11.27 | Bor_Ed | it's on rc2 currently |
| 17:12.02 | grivell | And what security hole? Debian fixes those ;) Use kernel-source-2.6.10 |
| 17:12.23 | Bor_Ed | I haven't used deb tree after 2.2.18 |
| 17:13.13 | grivell | Debian kernels are most stable/secure. Especially with 2.6.x's. They actually stabilize them. |
| 17:13.59 | al_ | mmh kernel-image-powerpc depends of 2.6.8 version |
| 17:14.02 | Bor_Ed | I haven't got a single deb 2.6 kernel to work, vanilla with recent patches tho with no probs |
| 17:14.07 | al_ | and 2.6.9 is packaged, weird |
| 17:14.31 | Bor_Ed | hmm, time to drop by to a store |
| 17:14.43 | jaska | oh yeah |
| 17:14.48 | jaska | gotta shop for food today |
| 17:14.51 | jaska | thanks for reminding :D |
| 17:16.34 | dj-death | clone/dual head support is fucked up on ibooks G4 ... |
| 17:16.38 | dj-death | that sux |
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| 17:20.00 | bender-RW- | dj-death: the same is true for g3 ibooks |
| 17:20.18 | dj-death | hmm |
| 17:20.32 | dj-death | I hope it will be fixed in xorg |
| 17:20.37 | bender-RW- | dj-death: at least i haven't been able to get it to work |
| 17:21.09 | dj-death | well cloned head is completly broken |
| 17:21.35 | bender-RW- | there was this one trick where you had to close the lid while booting |
| 17:21.43 | bender-RW- | that didn't work for me, either :( |
| 17:21.53 | dj-death | and dual head seems to work, but is quite broken too |
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| 17:44.06 | randyg | lol! I was bored, and wrote a 5-minute article on wikipedia... and someone listed it on the home page. :) |
| 17:52.03 | Sam-I-Am | http://ionosphere.bigfeh.com/gallery/bikewrecks |
| 17:52.06 | Sam-I-Am | ^ my bike now |
| 17:52.37 | dj-death | Sam-I-Am: what did you do ? |
| 17:52.51 | Sam-I-Am | car kicked a stick into my front wheel |
| 17:53.02 | Sam-I-Am | i went over, hit the ground head first and passed out |
| 17:53.13 | Sam-I-Am | some students scraped me up off the ground apparently |
| 17:53.15 | Sam-I-Am | then i went to the ER |
| 17:53.28 | dj-death | lol |
| 17:53.39 | jaska | oww |
| 17:53.40 | dj-death | ER ? |
| 17:53.41 | Sam-I-Am | bad news |
| 17:53.43 | jaska | emergency room |
| 17:53.44 | Sam-I-Am | yes |
| 17:53.52 | Sam-I-Am | i had a pool of blood on the sidewalk |
| 17:53.57 | Sam-I-Am | so it was probably a good idea |
| 17:54.14 | Sam-I-Am | face is a mess |
| 18:04.27 | Bor_Ed | you had at least helmet on |
| 18:09.14 | Sam-I-Am | yeha |
| 18:09.31 | Sam-I-Am | helmet didnt meet ground exactly well... the side of my face did |
| 18:09.47 | Bor_Ed | the result could've been pretty much worse if you didn't have helmet at all |
| 18:09.59 | Sam-I-Am | i'm sure |
| 18:10.38 | Sam-I-Am | heh |
| 18:10.45 | Sam-I-Am | the helmet didnt split |
| 18:10.55 | Sam-I-Am | usually that happens - better than the head |
| 18:11.04 | Bor_Ed | yup |
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| 18:26.48 | randyg | Sam-I-Am: ouch |
| 18:27.04 | Sam-I-Am | yup |
| 18:27.10 | Sam-I-Am | understatement |
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| 18:37.45 | randyg | Sam-I-Am: I'll give you $5 for the bike |
| 18:38.09 | thebug | @tell ds9bsd about away |
| 18:38.26 | thebug | huh, ravenbird is awol |
| 18:38.32 | Sam-I-Am | haha |
| 18:38.47 | randyg | simonrvn is gone/taking a break... which includes his bot. |
| 18:38.52 | thebug | but all of you regulars get the picture :) |
| 18:39.08 | thebug | randyg: I don't blame him at bit |
| 18:39.26 | thebug | s'all right |
| 18:44.22 | Bor_Ed | http://macmini.purestatic.com/marathon.html looks like someone else has done own case designs too |
| 18:46.06 | al_ | http://www.aquaray.com/hbg_dedie.php3 same thing in france |
| 18:46.17 | al_ | a 4200rpm disk, mmh. |
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| 18:46.35 | Bor_Ed | I've been planning to reseat this g3 to plexiglas case with some led fans and atx psu |
| 18:47.15 | pumk | Is there an opensource driver for airport extreme? |
| 18:47.26 | Bor_Ed | no, and won't be either |
| 18:47.35 | pumk | awesome |
| 18:47.59 | Bor_Ed | get some cheapo usb 802.11g adapter if you want to have one working with linux |
| 18:48.38 | pumk | a cheapo price range would be how much in US dollars? |
| 18:48.48 | Bor_Ed | 30-40 I'd guess |
| 18:49.02 | Bor_Ed | prism54.org lists some usb gear |
| 18:49.09 | pumk | thanks |
| 18:49.12 | thebug | heh ... ricing out a g3 eh |
| 18:49.13 | Bor_Ed | apt, airport |
| 18:49.14 | apt | if idiots are airplanes then #debian is an airport... a type of wireless card supported under Linux. Airport Extreme is not. Get a D-Link DWL-122 USB which is Linux compatible. |
| 18:49.20 | Bor_Ed | thebug, intending to :D |
| 18:49.44 | Bor_Ed | this is already rice with only 1 fan, several hds somewhere in the case, 54x cd-rw and whatnot :D |
| 18:50.04 | thebug | if you don't care about G, and could live with B, Orinoco cards are rated 't3h awesome' by 9 out of 10 lamers |
| 18:50.30 | Bor_Ed | I had orinoco/lucent wavelan silver on k6-2 lappie |
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| 18:50.38 | Bor_Ed | it was the pwn4g3 |
| 18:50.49 | thebug | <- p-120 lappy |
| 18:50.54 | Bor_Ed | paid ~350 eur of the card then :I |
| 18:51.05 | thebug | ha ... 25 USD |
| 18:51.17 | Bor_Ed | wlan was just kicking to the scene back then |
| 18:51.31 | thebug | indeed, i can understand that kind of price |
| 18:52.17 | Bor_Ed | jaska can tell some glorious success stories of first finnish wlan isp taking over the wired broadband :D |
| 18:55.19 | Bor_Ed | I think he's gathering the guts to say something... I was client for the isp for 6 or so months and got best link uptime for ~30 mins |
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| 19:47.26 | leighbb | How do I generate an "official-looking" kernel-image file? apt-get source kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc just brings the patch in... |
| 19:48.21 | grivell | You mean source of kernel? |
| 19:48.28 | grivell | Or kernel binary? |
| 19:49.40 | leighbb | I want to build my own kernel-image file based on the debian kernel, so that I can test a patch to allow easier setting of command line args of prep boxes |
| 19:49.44 | leighbb | so, a kernel |
| 19:50.44 | leighbb | That doesn't make much sense |
| 19:50.57 | leighbb | I want to build a kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc deb file that I can install |
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| 19:51.18 | grivell | apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 19:51.28 | Bor_Ed | or kernel-package |
| 19:51.30 | grivell | Use make-kpkg |
| 19:51.44 | grivell | brb, smoke break. |
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| 19:58.29 | dj-death | whats the name of usb wifi key to use on ibooks ? |
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| 19:59.47 | zoo | hello |
| 20:00.17 | zoo | did anyone buy a macmini and put linux on it? I would like to know if suspend/resume works. |
| 20:00.45 | dj-death | macmino supports suspend ?? |
| 20:01.08 | zoo | I assume yes. why not |
| 20:01.14 | zoo | it has a PMU |
| 20:01.39 | dj-death | well a lot of x86 doesnt support it |
| 20:01.49 | zoo | thats right |
| 20:01.51 | dj-death | macmini isnt a laptop |
| 20:01.57 | zoo | but it is not x86 |
| 20:02.07 | dj-death | why could it need suspend ? |
| 20:02.17 | zoo | and it definitly has suspend mode |
| 20:02.24 | zoo | according to the service manual |
| 20:03.02 | dj-death | strange ;) |
| 20:03.41 | zoo | suspend mode is so georgeous |
| 20:04.22 | zoo | http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2328 |
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| 20:15.10 | leighbb | Well, I am stupid |
| 20:15.26 | leighbb | apt-get source kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc then dpkg-buildpackage, "just works" |
| 20:15.33 | leighbb | As it should, since it's debian |
| 20:15.52 | al_ | dj-death, all desktop macs (recent..) have suspend |
| 20:28.40 | dj-death | al_: woow |
| 20:28.47 | dj-death | al_: I didnt know that |
| 20:29.23 | dj-death | al_: does it mean that benh patch work on desktop macs too ? |
| 20:32.30 | al_ | dunno |
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| 21:22.03 | BioTeck | hello everyone.. |
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| 21:23.18 | BioTeck | can anyone plase help me with my trackpad.. i need to configure the F11 & F12 as left and rigth buttons |
| 21:26.26 | al_ | @mouse |
| 21:26.36 | al_ | ok ravenbird not here. |
| 21:32.02 | pahartik | BioTeck: you probably want something like "http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/sysctl.conf" in "/etc/" |
| 21:33.02 | BioTeck | i think i have try that .. let me check.. thanks pahartik..!! |
| 21:36.00 | Bor_Ed | al_, ravenbird and simonrvn are on 'vacation' |
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| 21:51.21 | BioTeck | pahartik.. i did try that one before... it did not work |
| 21:52.13 | pahartik | BioTeck: do you get some other keycodes from "F11" and "F12"? |
| 21:52.54 | BioTeck | i think 111 |
| 21:53.00 | BioTeck | i dont remember |
| 21:54.02 | pahartik | BioTeck: too bad... it works fine over here |
| 21:54.16 | BioTeck | damm |
| 21:54.49 | BioTeck | do u have a g3.? |
| 21:55.27 | pahartik | BioTeck: iBook G4, Linux 2.6.10 |
| 21:56.15 | dj-death | is there sleep patch against 2.6.10 ? |
| 21:56.47 | BioTeck | i have a wallstreet g3 |
| 21:57.24 | pahartik | dj-death: not that i know of... i just spend some time waiting for boot and shutdown |
| 21:57.38 | dj-death | heh |
| 21:57.59 | dj-death | I have a fucking annoying bug with alsa on my ibook G4 |
| 21:58.15 | dj-death | when opening the lid at resume |
| 21:58.19 | BioTeck | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.35 | dj-death | there is a kind of cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
| 21:58.53 | dj-death | at full power for 2/3 seconds |
| 21:58.55 | dj-death | that sux |
| 21:59.17 | dj-death | I just cant use suspend |
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| 21:59.54 | dj-death | I reported that bug but it seems I'm the only one with this problem... |
| 21:59.57 | pahartik | dj-death: sleep patch worked on Linux 2.6.9 but otherwise it was not good... |
| 22:00.19 | dj-death | pahartik: why kind of problem did you have ? |
| 22:00.59 | pahartik | dj-death: GCC failed to compile stuff... |
| 22:02.11 | dj-death | woow strange |
| 22:02.13 | pahartik | dj-death: i thought sources were broken or GCC was broken but moving up to Linux 2.6.10 fixed it |
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| 23:20.12 | zoo | dj-death: i used to have a similar sound problem when resuming |
| 23:20.21 | zoo | with my first ibook, years ago |
| 23:20.50 | dj-death | zoo: hmmm |
| 23:20.54 | dj-death | interesting |
| 23:21.07 | dj-death | zoo: under macos ? |
| 23:21.20 | zoo | dj-death: no! with linux |
| 23:21.25 | dj-death | ok |
| 23:21.28 | zoo | but not always |
| 23:21.34 | dj-death | yes me too |
| 23:22.05 | dj-death | i need to let the laptop a long time in suspend to have this problem |
| 23:22.07 | zoo | but as I don't have any iBooks any more... i can't say anything else about it |
| 23:22.17 | dj-death | I would say about 1 hour |
| 23:22.29 | zoo | Sometimes it helped to close the lid again and try to open it a second time |
| 23:23.02 | dj-death | zoo: but for me it only happens for 2 or 3 secondes |
| 23:23.04 | dj-death | -e |
| 23:23.21 | dj-death | zoo: so I dont need to close the lid again |
| 23:23.30 | zoo | okay |
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| 23:23.59 | dj-death | I reported this bug on alsa-projet |
| 23:24.11 | dj-death | nothing new ... |
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| 23:40.52 | r0sk | Hi |
| 23:41.51 | r0sk | Anyone knows how to setup hotkeys on macosx? (like .keys on fluxbox) |
| 23:42.21 | r0sk | is there possible? (I know this is not best channel to question about, but dunno where) |
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