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| 00:18.08 | puzzled | hello |
| 00:18.41 | puzzled | what do I use for the PReP partition on a RS6K? fat, ext2 anything else? |
| 00:19.19 | Bor_Ed | prep bootstrap partition |
| 00:19.46 | puzzled | Bor_Ed: yes I made it a prep partition. but it doesn't need a filesystem? |
| 00:20.00 | Bor_Ed | nope, no need for filesystem |
| 00:20.12 | puzzled | excellent. less work :) thanks |
| 00:20.14 | Bor_Ed | you can dd kernel directly to there afaik |
| 00:20.35 | Bor_Ed | Piru, right ? |
| 00:20.45 | puzzled | well I'm currently netbooting the box. doesn't that require a different kernel? |
| 00:21.14 | puzzled | so netboot kernel has ramdisk.image.gz inside the zImage |
| 00:21.16 | Bor_Ed | yup, install will get the kernel you need to /boot/ dir |
| 00:21.38 | puzzled | ok thanks |
| 00:22.19 | Bor_Ed | I'm not 100% sure of the prep partition though... try first with just dd'ing the kernel there and if it doesn't work, create ext2 to there and try again |
| 00:22.50 | puzzled | ok will do |
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| 01:34.28 | falkryn | hi all, got a powerbook G4 here, and am seriously thinking about trying to get debian on this. other than airport, what can I expect NOT to work? |
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| 01:45.10 | keenan | I was thinking about getting a powerbook and installing linux on it, but I hear neither the video card nor the wifi card works properly |
| 01:47.12 | keenan | anyone care to comment? |
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| 01:49.21 | simonrvn | airport extreme works in os x only (binary driver crap and broadcom won't release specs). video i have no clue |
| 01:49.42 | simonrvn | vidoe itself works, dunno about external monitors |
| 01:49.47 | simonrvn | video* |
| 01:50.01 | keenan | but 3d acceleration definitely doesn't work |
| 01:50.18 | simonrvn | dunno |
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| 01:59.22 | demon | well, that kinda depends on exactly which powerbook you have, and which graphics controller it's got |
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| 02:18.59 | puzzled | the ssh installer in sarge is pretty neat. nice work |
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| 02:47.43 | randyg | argh... how does anyone use windows?! spent the last 4 hours further trying to install the video card, still no luck... |
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| 02:59.05 | randyg | wb :) |
| 03:00.03 | simonrvn | hi |
| 03:00.56 | randyg | happen to know a good channel for windoze support? I'm about ready to use this video card as a frisbee, but the guy I'm installing it for spent $200 on it, and really won't like me for it... |
| 03:02.31 | simonrvn | not on this network. efnet or something |
| 03:02.53 | randyg | god I hate working with windows... |
| 03:03.17 | randyg | and ATI not offering free tech support borders on disgusting. |
| 03:04.17 | chrisa | I honestly have never had trouble with an ati/nvidia video card in windows |
| 03:04.22 | chrisa | You just download the driver, that's it |
| 03:04.41 | randyg | chrisa: I've spent probably a total of 15 hours on it. |
| 03:04.45 | randyg | still not working |
| 03:07.35 | randyg | On his XP box, booting with the card installed works until xp pops up the "found new hardware" bubble and tries loading M$'s driver, at which point the screen goes blank and the monitor goes into powersave mode. On the win2k box, it works perfectly fine with the VGA driver, but downloading and installing ATI's driver causes the exact same problem. The XP box works perfectly in safe mode, and works in normal mode if you disable the driver |
| 03:07.42 | randyg | xp box, and absolutely no change. |
| 03:08.25 | randyg | works perfectly from linux using xfree86's radeon driver |
| 03:08.36 | randyg | but, of course, slower than all hell |
| 03:09.50 | randyg | and, of course, works perfectly in XP with the driver disabled.... so the hardware seems to work. |
| 03:10.33 | randyg | but, the same problem on M$'s XP driver, ATI's XP driver, and ATI's 2k driver?! |
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| 03:15.13 | randyg | I couldn't think of anything either. |
| 03:15.44 | randyg | ATI's web site says to install the latest agp driver (done), check some bios settings (all correct), and to check the bios version (relatively recent). |
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| 03:17.04 | randyg | I almost wonder if it isn't some odd marginal thing with the card, that the windows driver triggers and the xfree86 one doesn't... with it not working in two completely different systems (different cpus, motherboards, architecture (one amd, one intel), different widnows, etc), it seems that it must not work for the majority of people... |
| 03:18.17 | simonrvn | maybe |
| 03:19.25 | randyg | if it doesn't work, and I can't get it to work on either system after 15 hours of trying, what would all the 12 year old gamers do? |
| 03:20.06 | simonrvn | check their web forums? |
| 03:21.41 | randyg | I didn't see any mention of forums on their site... |
| 03:22.20 | puzzled | rage3d has good forums |
| 03:22.25 | randyg | all I know is I'm never buying an ATI card... any company that refuses to provide support after you buy a $200 card doesn't deserve business. |
| 03:22.40 | randyg | it's an All-in-Wonder 9700 Pro |
| 03:22.52 | puzzled | nvidia seems to work better under linux anyway |
| 03:23.35 | randyg | he plays some "mmorpg" game. and nothing else. |
| 03:23.40 | randyg | needs windoze |
| 03:23.56 | puzzled | randyg: i have a radeon 9000 and i have never gotten the tv-out to work under linux. don't have windows |
| 03:24.20 | chrisa | randyg all I know is I'm never buying an ATI card... any company that refuses to provide support after you buy a $200 card doesn't deserve business. |
| 03:24.27 | chrisa | You didn't buy "an ati card" |
| 03:24.38 | chrisa | You bought a card with a licensed ati chipset |
| 03:24.56 | chrisa | ATI of course won't support it, you're supposed to go through the manufacturer |
| 03:25.02 | randyg | their web site claims this one is "made by ATI", and is the only reason they support it at all. |
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| 03:31.09 | randyg | actually, it's "built by ATI", not "made by ATI". |
| 03:34.03 | randyg | their only support options are long-distance to canada (tried calling it 3 times, got a busy signal each time), $1.25/minute, or $20/incident. Their online support seems to only respond by pasting useless, irrelevant, and off-topic FAQ pages, and it's questionable if it's even read by a human and not a script. |
| 03:35.08 | xbaez | if i have an error like this: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown_block(3,3), what could be the error ? |
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| 03:35.29 | xbaez | what option on config file is wrong ? |
| 03:36.13 | puzzled | maybe root= |
| 03:40.10 | randyg | when do you get the error? during boot? |
| 03:40.30 | randyg | if it's during boot, you probably have your root partition set wrong... |
| 03:41.31 | xbaez | yes during de boot with a new kernel-image |
| 03:42.00 | randyg | as puzzled said... try it with a correct root= line |
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